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DRAMATIC VIDEO: Arson probe after blaze at social club
8:02am Thursday 13th March 2008
Comments (84)A SOCIAL club plagued by arsonists and vandals was burned to the ground last night.
At the height of the blaze 30 firefighters were tackling the raging flames at the derelict Breightmet Labour Club in Milnthorpe Road.
Witnesses could not believe their eyes as flames engulfed the club at 8.45pm.
The fire service received 16 calls to say the building was well alight, including a call from someone on top of a hill.
Firefighters had to pump water from Red Bridge to extinguish the blaze.
Since the building closed 12 months ago firefighters have been called to the site 15 times to deal with nuisance fires.
The cause of the blaze will not be confirmed until an investigation has been carried out but arson has not been ruled out.
It is believed that the building was empty but homeless people have been known to sleep there.
Police closed Milnthorpe Road at the junction with Bury Road and a cordon was set up around the club.
Residents in nearby homes were not evacuated.
Anthony Dyer, aged 47, from Deepdale Road, Breightmet, said: "I'm really shocked by this.
"I had just come out and was going to do some shopping when I saw the building alight and then fire engines started to arrive.
"The flames were so ferocious, it's really frightening."
Susan Entwistle, aged 47, from Withins Drive, Breightmet, said: "I just cannot believe it.
"I have spent so many good nights in that club, including my wedding reception and 40th birthday, so it is very sad to see it go in this way.
"There have been a number of occasions recently when kids have been breaking in and starting fires, but this just shows you how dangerous that is."
Catherine Brennen, aged 50, of Crossdale Road, said: "I could see it from our bedroom window.
"It was unbelievable and I wondered what was going on so I came down to look.
"I used to drink there years ago and it is just so sad to see it go.
"Just last week there was a car set on fire and there have been other incidents of vandalism, but they have really done it this time."
Graham Brennan, group commander for the Greater Manchester Fire Service, said: "Given that the building has been empty for a while and because of the time the fire happened, we would not rule out arson.
"There will be an investigation to establish the cause."
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michelle78, bolton says...
8:57am Thu 13 Mar 08
LESPAD, BREIGHTMET says...
10:26am Thu 13 Mar 08
P.J. Gallagher, says...
10:28am Thu 13 Mar 08
To be heard on the video.
Tommy, says...
10:30am Thu 13 Mar 08
Good examples would be that whole thing surrounding fires near the bus station.
It makes me sick, it really does.
Brak, Bolton says...
10:56am Thu 13 Mar 08
IT WAS AN EYESORE AND MAYBE NOW IT WILL BE REPLACED BY SOMETHING THAT WILL BRING LIFE BACK TO BREIGHTMET
Hey they might build a new toilet block!!
Isn't that the latest 'council 'fad!'
Thecomebackid, The Ether says...
11:05am Thu 13 Mar 08
Gloria, Bolton says...
11:23am Thu 13 Mar 08
Sun Tzu, says...
11:29am Thu 13 Mar 08
A derelict Labour club torched to the ground in what was once a Labour heartland.
Intentional or not the message couldn't be more obvious.
The founding fathers of the Labour movement would be spinning in their graves if they knew what Blair and co had done to their dream.
InTheKnow, Bolton says...
11:56am Thu 13 Mar 08
The Horwich Observer, Horwich says...
12:12pm Thu 13 Mar 08
This was bound to happen eventually wasn't it?
It should have been demolished before this happend.
BoltonDave, Tonge Moor says...
1:25pm Thu 13 Mar 08
Sheila, Bolton says...
1:27pm Thu 13 Mar 08
wes t howfen, howfen says...
1:29pm Thu 13 Mar 08
Sun Tzu wrote:Couldnt put it better myself.Come the revolution........
Says it all really. A derelict Labour club torched to the ground in what was once a Labour heartland. Intentional or not the message couldn't be more obvious. The founding fathers of the Labour movement would be spinning in their graves if they knew what Blair and co had done to their dream.
babaha, bolton says...
1:35pm Thu 13 Mar 08
gazza, bolton says...
2:01pm Thu 13 Mar 08
Anne, little lever says...
2:53pm Thu 13 Mar 08
P.J. Gallagher wrote:IDIOT!!!!
"I'm proud of whoever did this." To be heard on the video.
lindsey, bolton says...
3:04pm Thu 13 Mar 08
stacey08, breightmet says...
3:21pm Thu 13 Mar 08
billy bob, local says...
3:24pm Thu 13 Mar 08
i would do the whole of breightmet....full of scum and ferell
Le Roi, says...
3:27pm Thu 13 Mar 08
tive view.
A vote for the Tories is a vote against Breightmet.
billy bob, local says...
3:59pm Thu 13 Mar 08
gazz_ball - Supera Moras!, bolton says...
4:04pm Thu 13 Mar 08
billy bob wrote:bury road
maybe.but is it not true, tell me something good that has ever come out of breightmet?
LESPAD, BREIGHTMET says...
4:14pm Thu 13 Mar 08
billy bob wrote:WE ARE NOT ALL SCUM. SOME OF US DONT HAVE A CHOICE AND HAVE TO LIVE AMONGST IT.
There are whole areas of Breightmet that should be burnt to the ground never mind the labour club. i would do the whole of breightmet....full of scum and ferell
P.J. Gallagher, says...
4:44pm Thu 13 Mar 08
Typical Thatcherite/Conserva
tive view.
A vote for the Tories is a vote against Breightmet.
Explain what this has to do with a Labour Club burning down ? If perhaps if you'd visited with your odd lot friends, it would still be open?
yoda, front room says...
4:52pm Thu 13 Mar 08
P.J. Gallagher, says...
4:57pm Thu 13 Mar 08
Unfortunately, a few bad ones bring down the whole area in others eyes. For a blame to this, you have to look at the Council and their Social experiments.
Which is why Erica's comment is rubbish. She is attempting to fix in your minds now, the upcoming local elections and vote Labour, best is, claims to live in Manchester, haven of all things good.
Jean, Breightmet says...
5:26pm Thu 13 Mar 08
billy bob wrote:I am sick of people labelling everyone in Breightmet as "scum" My husband, (as well as many others on this estate) has worked all his adult life, and only now at 60 has taken rtirement, we have brought our children up to repect others and their property. They are all adults now with families of their own..and they all work hard too.
There are whole areas of Breightmet that should be burnt to the ground never mind the labour club. i would do the whole of breightmet....full of scum and ferell
Things on this estate have gone worse since the closure of New lane Housing Office. We have become a forgotten estate, and a dumping ground for young people who don't give a **** about their community,
Please don't tar us all with the same brush. Regardless to public opinion we do have feelings.
P.J. Gallagher, says...
5:35pm Thu 13 Mar 08
You've been abandoned by the back slapping Labour Council and left to swim for yourselves.
yoda, front room says...
5:37pm Thu 13 Mar 08
Ali, says...
5:57pm Thu 13 Mar 08
aza, bolton says...
6:17pm Thu 13 Mar 08
LESPAD wrote:Very true. We don't have a choice and can't stop what happens here, it upsets us, which people who don't live in this area seem to think we are all part of happenings like the Labour Club.
billy bob wrote:WE ARE NOT ALL SCUM. SOME OF US DONT HAVE A CHOICE AND HAVE TO LIVE AMONGST IT.
There are whole areas of Breightmet that should be burnt to the ground never mind the labour club. i would do the whole of breightmet....full of scum and ferell
and to the person who said parents need to keep a closer eye on the kids - some don't care and think their kids are perfect...and what they do is right...
Hense a lot of trouble from the younger ages now.
LM, Breightmet says...
6:34pm Thu 13 Mar 08
Le Roi, says...
6:38pm Thu 13 Mar 08
There's good and bad in all areas. I live in a 'rich ' area and it's full of shysters, tax fiddlers, estate agents and people who know the price of everything and the value of nothing.
Gill, Breightmet says...
6:41pm Thu 13 Mar 08
Le Roi, says...
6:44pm Thu 13 Mar 08
Cerberus, Bolton says...
6:45pm Thu 13 Mar 08
Le Roi wrote:One of my brothers lives in an area much like your goodself Le Roi.
Well said the people of Breightmet. There's good and bad in all areas. I live in a 'rich ' area and it's full of shysters, tax fiddlers, estate agents and people who know the price of everything and the value of nothing.
Says it's full of swingers!
Le Roi, says...
6:50pm Thu 13 Mar 08
chas, suffolk says...
6:50pm Thu 13 Mar 08
Le Roi wrote:So you admit to being a shyster and fiddler.
Well said the people of Breightmet. There's good and bad in all areas. I live in a 'rich ' area and it's full of shysters, tax fiddlers, estate agents and people who know the price of everything and the value of nothing.
P.J. Gallagher, says...
6:59pm Thu 13 Mar 08
Can I have the postcode
M8
P.J. Gallagher, says...
7:02pm Thu 13 Mar 08
There's good and bad in all areas. I live in a 'rich ' area and it's full of shysters, tax fiddlers, estate agents and people who know the price of everything and the value of nothingincluding hangers on of the public sector such as myself.
Cerberus, Bolton says...
7:03pm Thu 13 Mar 08
Le Roi wrote:You little monkey!!
Can I have the postcode :-)))
Can't divulge that information i'm afraid,i'd have to kill you an all that!
Got my eye on a lovely middle aged woman who lives at No.37 though.She says she gets a little bit lonely if you know what i mean.Her partner works in the media and spends a lot of time abroad through work and watching Man U. When he is at home,she says he's glued to his laptop day and night!
Le Roi, says...
7:05pm Thu 13 Mar 08
Cerberus, Bolton says...
7:08pm Thu 13 Mar 08
Le Roi wrote:Haha. I'll give you that one.
Go for it mate, give the kids some pocket money while you're at it.
the hangman, end of the noose says...
7:10pm Thu 13 Mar 08
INSURANCE CLAIMS DOT COM --- sorry thats meant to be dot COMING
billy bob, local says...
7:28pm Thu 13 Mar 08
i take it that punctuation and spelling are not your strong points
the mind boggles
Devon Whites, Torquay says...
7:32pm Thu 13 Mar 08
Why don't you come on my local newspaper,It would open up a whole new avenue for your self induced fantasies. Why don't you leave the good people of Bolton alone, they don't want to put up with your made up dream world. I can cope with your inane moronic banter because i feel sorry for you. I deal with your kind all day, every day at work. Infact I could recommend you for a placement if you require. Feel free to check out the Edith Morgan website if you like, perfect for people with mental problems like your good self.
LM, Breightmet says...
7:33pm Thu 13 Mar 08
Zimmy, says...
7:38pm Thu 13 Mar 08
then after would get back on his toadstool and fish.
Le Roi, says...
7:39pm Thu 13 Mar 08
Zimmy, says...
7:43pm Thu 13 Mar 08
Charming.
billy bob, local says...
7:43pm Thu 13 Mar 08
billy bob so your area is so perfect!!!!!!!!!!!!! doubt it very much going off you.
billy bob so your area is so perfect!!!!!!!!!!!!! doubt it very much going off
not far off dude, i have to travel through that ch!te hole when i am away to work, no doubt paying for you lot while you all hang outside the post office at all hours swilling cheap nasty cider, then taking your drugs, planning your next break in. or mugging, i rest my case.
Le Roi, says...
7:44pm Thu 13 Mar 08
THE PSYCHIATRIC UNIT The Edith Morgan Centre - where administrators are criticised over the killing of Georgina Robinson - has been plagued by tragedy and violence.
Since it opened in December 1985, there have been at least 31 suicides by in-patients or recently discharged patients, a sudden death of a patient last July, and two killings and other violent attacks by patients on the public and staff, including Georgina Robinson.
Might call them tomorrow and ask their views on 'mental health insults' by one of their staff, from Bolton.
Devon Whites, Torquay says...
7:45pm Thu 13 Mar 08
Le Roi, says...
7:46pm Thu 13 Mar 08
Posted by: Boris on 7:43pm today
Says the geezer looking for gay **** and posting links.
Charming. He might have called me instead.
P.J. Gallagher, says...
7:47pm Thu 13 Mar 08
Le Roi, says...
7:51pm Thu 13 Mar 08
LM, Breightmet says...
7:53pm Thu 13 Mar 08
Devon Whites, Torquay says...
7:57pm Thu 13 Mar 08
I'm very impressed with your research however, but if you recall from previous discussions i don't come from Bolton. Feel free to call them. I'm off to watch the game now.
Le Roi, says...
8:07pm Thu 13 Mar 08
are fond of gay porm and sharing links
Another one fascinated with gay sex. Remarkable there seems to be a direct correlation between right wing views and this urge to talk 'gay.
Le Roi is open-minded but has no inclination toward gay **** or posting any links to such activity.
The poltroons think it's funny to post as moi, then other fools believe it, and see it as a chance to criticise moi.
Usually the ones who cannot sustain any real debate with Le Roi.
Must go, off to an Irish bar to watch the Trotters.
P.J. Gallagher, says...
8:12pm Thu 13 Mar 08
LM, Breightmet says...
8:13pm Thu 13 Mar 08
Cerberus, Bolton says...
8:18pm Thu 13 Mar 08
Le Roi wrote:Be careful where you leave your keys Le Roi!
are fond of gay porm and sharing linksAnother one fascinated with gay sex. Remarkable there seems to be a direct correlation between right wing views and this urge to talk 'gay. Le Roi is open-minded but has no inclination toward gay **** or posting any links to such activity. The poltroons think it's funny to post as moi, then other fools believe it, and see it as a chance to criticise moi. Usually the ones who cannot sustain any real debate with Le Roi. Must go, off to an Irish bar to watch the Trotters.
We know what goes on in your "rich areas",you old swinger.
billy bob, local says...
8:19pm Thu 13 Mar 08
Le Roi, says...
8:19pm Thu 13 Mar 08
Posted by: P.J. Gallagher on 8:12pm today
Speaks volumes, the last paragraph, always have to have the last word then scurries off like a cornered rat. Typical failed Social Worker.
Not gone yet. I notice you ignored the budget thread after I comprehensively proved you were wrong, yet again.
You accused me of posting links to gay ****.
I am accusing you of being a liar who when humiliated throws false sh.ite out about Le Roi.
Again, a typical Tory. Bluster, bul.lshi.t and blunders.
P.J. Gallagher, says...
8:23pm Thu 13 Mar 08
Another Labour voting failed Social Worker.
Erica, I know exactly who you are, watch out specky as our paths WILL cross and be careful of Lorraine, she out to kill you.
LM, Breightmet says...
8:27pm Thu 13 Mar 08
P.J. Gallagher, says...
8:31pm Thu 13 Mar 08
Le Roi, says...
8:31pm Thu 13 Mar 08
I saw the post regarding babywipes and Toadstools, that said enough.
Yet another gay sex comment. Fascinating.
But wrong, not by Le Roi
Another Labour voting failed Social Worker.
Wrong
You think we shouldn't have social workers then ? What's your alternative ?
Erica, I know exactly who you are, watch out specky as our paths WILL cross and be careful of Lorraine, she out to kill you.
Wrong again.
No spectacles or Lorraine in Le Roi's life.
Erica, I know exactly who you are, watch out specky as our paths WILL cross
BTW is this a threat ?
If you know who I am, knock on my door.
I'll get the babywipes out.
P.J. Gallagher, says...
8:32pm Thu 13 Mar 08
P.J. Gallagher, says...
8:35pm Thu 13 Mar 08
P.J. Gallagher, says...
8:39pm Thu 13 Mar 08
BTW is this a threat ?
No, just a factual prediction.
Le Roi, says...
8:39pm Thu 13 Mar 08
On every point you've made on every thread I have proved you wrong.
You must be a masochist...which sort of fits with your other preoccupation.
Anyway, I'll go & watch the 2 nd half.
Au Revoir.
P.J. Gallagher, says...
8:43pm Thu 13 Mar 08
BTW, you know those specs ? Make you look like one of the Banana Splits from the 70's or is that the idea ?
utter tool, says...
8:50pm Thu 13 Mar 08
P.J. Gallagher, says...
9:02pm Thu 13 Mar 08
Zimmy, tomorrow is says...
9:18pm Thu 13 Mar 08
Cerberus, Bolton says...
9:21pm Thu 13 Mar 08
Zimmy wrote:You had a rib removed Zimmy?
"March 14th is now officially "Steak and Blow job Day". Simple, effective and self explanatory, this holiday has been created so you ladies finally have a day to show your man how much you love him. No cards, no flowers, no special nights on the town; the name of the holiday explains it all, just a steak and a BJ. That's it. Finally, this twin pair of Valentine's Day and Steak and Blow job Day will usher in a new age of love as men everywhere try THAT much harder in February to ensure a memorable March 14th. It's like a perpetual love machine!"
Or have you just got a long neck?
Miss W, Breightmet says...
9:24pm Thu 13 Mar 08
Every area has it's trouble makers, there are good and bad areas everywhere. Just cause your brought up in Bromley cross, doesn't mean your parents teach you right from wrong or shower you with love.
My point here is aimed at those who brand people cause of their area. I've worked since I was 13, left school with GCSE's, I have a mortgage, my child wants for nothing, my house runs two cars, we pay huge amounts of tax, and claim the absolute minimum in child tax credits - All because we work an honest living for a decent life! So do not brand the People of Breightmet SCUM!
chas, suffolk says...
9:45pm Thu 13 Mar 08
Must go, off to an Irish bar to watch the Trotters.Fitz Patrick?
SUE, bolton says...
11:57pm Thu 13 Mar 08
.........well sed i totally agree !
billy bob, local says...
12:21pm Fri 14 Mar 08
Mancroft Avenue.
Mancroft Avenue .
ha ha ha, yet another chite hole of an aarea
Gill, Breightmet says...
5:22pm Fri 14 Mar 08
billy bob wrote:listen u goon it called slang obvs u to old 2 guess dat, i a teenager commentin on my ome place u can shut up okie luv, u aint gota clue wot ur talkin about any way have ya?? u dnt no what it is lyk 2 be a kid agen n live were we do der nofin keep us amused n i not sayin torchin places is ryt cs i no it nt but if ur so perfect give us teenagers sumart do and keep us owta ur way if not shut d ell up!!!
Listen u all dnt no wot u talkin bwt unless you live in breightmet, yer it gone kinda bad ova d years but i bet the areas u live in aren't squeaky clean either, unless u truly no wot goes on dwn here i suggest u shut up n keep ya opinions 2 ya self in stead of specating. i take it that punctuation and spelling are not your strong points the mind boggles
mancroft ressie, bolton says...
7:27am Tue 25 Mar 08
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RockyRereturns, Bicester says...
8:43am Thu 13 Mar 08