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1:30pm Thursday 17th April 2008

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TRADING standards officers are warning the public to be on the look-out for fake vodka being sold in Bolton.

Investigators carried out raids on shops in the Deane and Little Lever areas this week after customers were sold counterfeit Glen's Vodka.

One woman, who asked not to be named, told The Bolton News she had bought two 70cl bottles at a shop in Deane on Monday night.

She said: "I went to the counter and asked the lady for two bottles. She reached up to the shelf, but as she did so a man, who was also behind the counter, said something in his native language and then she picked up some bottles off the floor.

"I didn't think anything of it, but when I was drinking it at home I remembered an article I had seen in the paper about fake vodka being sold in Leigh.

"I noticed a mis-spelling on the bottle and phoned my neighbour, who had the other bottle, to tell her.

"I had drunk quite a bit of it, but fortunately I don't think it has harmed me."

No counterfeit alcohol was discovered during Tuesday's raids.

However, trading standards officials say Glen's Vodka can be easily identified because the bottle, made by Allied Glass Containers, should have a small AGC logo around the base.

The counterfeit vodka may also have "Ayrshire" mis-spelt on the front label, with the letter "i" missing.

Richard Lindley, head of Bolton trading standards, said: "The bottles which we received complaints about were counterfeit. We are warning people to look out for these bottles as it seems they are available in Bolton. The contents have not yet been analysed but it could be very dangerous and should not be drunk."

To report anything suspicious, telephone trading standards on 01204 336586.


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chas, suffolk says...
2:31pm Thu 17 Apr 08

There has been a lot of talk on the news today about hiking up the price of alcohol and restrictions on drinking. If this is done, there will be a lot more counterfeit alcohol on our streets.

Jo, Bolton says...
4:59pm Thu 17 Apr 08

Drinking vodka on a Tuesday - no wonder she didn't want to be named!!

VM User, Bolton says...
5:02pm Thu 17 Apr 08

She said: "I went to the counter and asked the lady for two bottles. She reached up to the shelf, but as she did so a man, who was also behind the counter, said something in his native language and then she picked up some bottles off the floor"

MMM, Yeah we get the picture, Nuff said!

Brian, Bolton says...
5:19pm Thu 17 Apr 08

Surely it is racist to clearly talk in a language that all parties dont understand when all talk english,if this was myself I would have explained it was extremely ignorant,and walked out of the shop never to return.

billy bob, local says...
5:37pm Thu 17 Apr 08

I went to the counter and asked the lady for two bottles. She reached up to the shelf, but as she did so a man, who was also behind the counter, said something in his native language and then she picked up some bottles off the floor.


so did they prosecute?

OldBoltonian, Do svedanya tvarich. says...
6:18pm Thu 17 Apr 08

Be nice to know what in fact was his "native language". Russian (obviously being such vodka experts)? Polish (ditto)? Albanian (maybe not...)? Ahhhh - Deane Road.....guess that doesn't leave too many candidates then.

And I agree it is rude in the extreme to prattle on in some foreign gibberish in front of a paying customer. I'd have given him a severe tongue lashing in best BBC and never darkened (!) his door again.

steve, bolton says...
7:33pm Thu 17 Apr 08

"Fake vodka" how does that work then.
I think you'll find the only concern the Government have is that the revenue they receive doesn't match that of the expensive vodkas.
This vodka will be every bit as good as the proprietary branded vodkas.
Trading standards should be there to help the public not pandering to the Governments every whim in protecting the major companies, DIAGEO for example who watch the small manufacturers persecuted whilst they benefit from Government departments ridding the streets of competition.
Come the revolution...

Andrew, Bury says...
7:39pm Thu 17 Apr 08

There was a batch of fake vodka laced with methanol a while back. You happy drinking that because Trading Standards have called off their dogs due to allegations of pandering to the Government?

steve, bolton says...
7:47pm Thu 17 Apr 08

Andrew wrote:
There was a batch of fake vodka laced with methanol a while back. You happy drinking that because Trading Standards have called off their dogs due to allegations of pandering to the Government?
There was a batch of contaminated Smirnoff not long ago.
I don't believe anybody thinks these actions are to protect the public,and yes,Andrew I include you in that.

Andrew, Bury says...
7:52pm Thu 17 Apr 08

So you'd drink vodka with excessive levels of methanol because you think TS are just government puppets.

Pretty nasty stuff methanol. Each to his own though.

donmarg, devon says...
7:53pm Thu 17 Apr 08

I thought money was counterfeit,
And booze was hooch or moonshine,

spice, bolton says...
8:14pm Thu 17 Apr 08

I didnt know there was a law baning drinking vodka on a Tuesday JO,where did that come from.

Sun Tzu, says...
8:39pm Thu 17 Apr 08

Trading standards are claiming that they are still in the dark about the source of counterfeit vodka. A sure fire indication that foreign criminals are responsible.

RagReader, Horwich says...
11:43pm Thu 17 Apr 08

donmarg wrote:
I thought money was counterfeit, And booze was hooch or moonshine,
Enigma machine is working on this message, GCHQ are baffled.

Cerberus, Bolton says...
1:21am Fri 18 Apr 08

Andrew wrote:
So you'd drink vodka with excessive levels of methanol because you think TS are just government puppets. Pretty nasty stuff methanol. Each to his own though.
I got given a few of them Andrew.

You're right,it's nasty stuff!

Wiped me out for a couple of days.

Gonna stick to legit stuff from now on.

buglerboy, swinton says...
7:32am Fri 18 Apr 08

Sun Tzu wrote:
Trading standards are claiming that they are still in the dark about the source of counterfeit vodka. A sure fire indication that foreign criminals are responsible.
and??? your point, how can anyone hate his fellow human beings just because they are foreign what a complete bigot you are. we get plenty of cheap vodka in swinton thanks to the "foreigners"

Andrew, Bury says...
9:21am Fri 18 Apr 08

Sun Tzu wrote:
Trading standards are claiming that they are still in the dark about the source of counterfeit vodka. A sure fire indication that foreign criminals are responsible.
Sun's posting. A sure sign there's zxenophobia in the air.

Given your extraordinary powers of deduction should you not be offering your services to the police, trading standards, HMRC and International Rescue?

Disgusted, Tunbridge Wells says...
10:04am Fri 18 Apr 08

"She said: "I went to the counter and asked the lady for two bottles. She reached up to the shelf, but as she did so a man, who was also behind the counter, said something in his native language and then she picked up some bottles off the floor" Hahahahahahahahahaha
ahahahahahaa


Sun Tzu, says...
10:18am Fri 18 Apr 08

buglerboy wrote:
Sun Tzu wrote:
Trading standards are claiming that they are still in the dark about the source of counterfeit vodka. A sure fire indication that foreign criminals are responsible.
and??? your point, how can anyone hate his fellow human beings just because they are foreign what a complete bigot you are. we get plenty of cheap vodka in swinton thanks to the "foreigners"
You should stop drinking it, it's destroying what little grey matter you have.

Sun Tzu, says...
10:20am Fri 18 Apr 08

Andrew wrote:
Sun Tzu wrote:
Trading standards are claiming that they are still in the dark about the source of counterfeit vodka. A sure fire indication that foreign criminals are responsible.
Sun's posting. A sure sign there's zxenophobia in the air.

Given your extraordinary powers of deduction should you not be offering your services to the police, trading standards, HMRC and International Rescue?
It's nothing to do with deduction Andrew. It's just what normal people see when they don't have their heads up their arses.

Andrew, Bury says...
10:33am Fri 18 Apr 08

Ah, new pet catchprase. Just makes you look even more childish and stupid. Congratulations, I thought something of an impossible feat my little neo Nazi.

easyroy, daubhill bolton says...
10:40am Fri 18 Apr 08

Brian wrote:
Surely it is racist to clearly talk in a language that all parties dont understand when all talk english,if this was myself I would have explained it was extremely ignorant,and walked out of the shop never to return.
To SPEAK IN THERE OWN LANGUAGE JUST SHOWS THERE IGNORANCE but thats wat we expect off these people . they can speak english when it suits them . now i will be called racist but do i care NO

Disgusted, Tunbridge Wells says...
10:40am Fri 18 Apr 08

Andrew wrote:
Ah, new pet catchprase. Just makes you look even more childish and stupid. Congratulations, I thought something of an impossible feat my little neo Nazi.
You can't see the wood for the Trees mate!

Sun Tzu, says...
10:43am Fri 18 Apr 08

Andrew wrote:
Ah, new pet catchprase. Just makes you look even more childish and stupid. Congratulations, I thought something of an impossible feat my little neo Nazi.
So now I'm a Neo Nazi. My, my, Andrew, you are getting spooked aren't you?
Pull your head out quick before my jackboot kicks your arse.

Andrew, Bury says...
10:47am Fri 18 Apr 08

It was your slef proclaimed love of Nationa(ist) Socialism and unfettered apologies for the BNP that sealed that definition.

Andrew, Bury says...
10:48am Fri 18 Apr 08

easyroy wrote:
Brian wrote: Surely it is racist to clearly talk in a language that all parties dont understand when all talk english,if this was myself I would have explained it was extremely ignorant,and walked out of the shop never to return.
To SPEAK IN THERE OWN LANGUAGE JUST SHOWS THERE IGNORANCE but thats wat we expect off these people . they can speak english when it suits them . now i will be called racist but do i care NO
No need to call you that. Someone who actually knows you has already pointed out your racist tendencies. Believe you're well known for it in Daubhill.

Sun Tzu, says...
10:54am Fri 18 Apr 08

Andrew wrote:
It was your slef proclaimed love of Nationa(ist) Socialism and unfettered apologies for the BNP that sealed that definition.
Nationalism - Is it wrong to love ones country and want what is best for it's people?

Socialism - Is it wrong to believe in a society which is fair for all?

BNP - I never made any apologies for them. However, In the interests of truth, I did feel it was necessary to correct the misleading accusations which you leveled against them.

Andrew, Bury says...
10:59am Fri 18 Apr 08

It is not wrong to love one's country but it's wrong to use that love to justify hate towards others.

You make any real Socialiust gag.

Yes, you are a BNP apologist. Indeed your politics are so akin to the BNP's it's uncanny. Rory Bremner could not do a better impression of a BNP supporter.

Sun Tzu, says...
11:09am Fri 18 Apr 08

Andrew wrote:
It is not wrong to love one's country but it's wrong to use that love to justify hate towards others.

You make any real Socialiust gag.

Yes, you are a BNP apologist. Indeed your politics are so akin to the BNP's it's uncanny. Rory Bremner could not do a better impression of a BNP supporter.
You have no real aguments to the points I make Andrew. All you give is blithe opinions and accusation.

Your politics are based on your own prejudices and self interest.
You are the worst kind of racist Andrew. The kind who tries to justify his own racism by smearing others.
The Germany Nazi Party was full of your kind. Hypocrites, who saw a way to ingratiate themselves.

easyroy, daubhill bolton says...
11:36am Fri 18 Apr 08

Andrew wrote:
easyroy wrote:
Brian wrote: Surely it is racist to clearly talk in a language that all parties dont understand when all talk english,if this was myself I would have explained it was extremely ignorant,and walked out of the shop never to return.
To SPEAK IN THERE OWN LANGUAGE JUST SHOWS THERE IGNORANCE but thats wat we expect off these people . they can speak english when it suits them . now i will be called racist but do i care NO
No need to call you that. Someone who actually knows you has already pointed out your racist tendencies. Believe you're well known for it in Daubhill.
YES and i vote BNP is that racist too I HAVE INDIAN FRIENDS A BLACK NEPHEW A HALF PAKISTANI SON so why am i racist im just telling youall the truth as it is its not my fault you dont understand what goes on in front of your noses . you need to live amoungst these people to see ther ignorance . could you get away with half of what they get away with ??? i dont think so get real ANDREW and take your tong out of the muslims arses

easyroy, daubhill bolton says...
11:42am Fri 18 Apr 08

at the end of the day this is about illegal vodka do you think it will be a british person resonsible for making this NO it will be the other side and who is selling it ??? the asian shop keepers i rest my case not guilty us whites

Andrew, Bury says...
12:03pm Fri 18 Apr 08

He's not racist at all folks. He's told us so.

Tubby Scruff, says...
12:27pm Fri 18 Apr 08

Be interesting to see if these "shop keepers" can produce V.A.T. receipts for the fake Vodka.

taxpayer, Horwich says...
12:34pm Fri 18 Apr 08

I wonder how much longer readers will be able to comment on this news article?

The Bolton News is always keen to remove threads once racial issues arise.
Some say this is because Newsquest wish to remain politically correct. I say it’s more likely that the company fears upsetting its customers and its profits. And when I say its customers I don’t mean Bolton News readers, I’m referring to the newsagents that Newsquest supply. In this multicultural England that we are now all part of, an ever-growing number of local newspaper sales outlets are run by proprietors of “foreign” origins. With this in mind the Bolton News readers should ask themselves the following… is our local newspaper being PC (politically correct) or PC (profit conscious)? After all, in business it never pays to upset the customer, especially with comments about race or creed.

Sun Tzu, says...
4:22pm Fri 18 Apr 08

This site is the pits. The BN should hang it's head in shame for pandering to the loikes of Abu Andrew.

chas, suffolk says...
4:37pm Fri 18 Apr 08

Sun
Fakes like him should be banned from this site.

Sun Tzu, says...
4:55pm Fri 18 Apr 08

chas wrote:
Sun
Fakes like him should be banned from this site.
The guy is complaining like mad about me calling him Abu Andrew.

I guess I'm getting too near the truth.

chas, suffolk says...
5:03pm Fri 18 Apr 08

I notice our comments on two stories have been deleted.

spice, bolton says...
5:27pm Fri 18 Apr 08

I used to look foreward to reading and discusing these topics but not anymore,the posts are getting worse with everyone name calling,and most people being accused of racist tendencies,its getting really boring,which is a shame,as there are quite sensible and sometimes funny posters,most of the threads are being closed down due to these childish rants,so please guys call a halt to it,and agree to differ so that we can all enjoy the banter again.

chas, suffolk says...
6:17pm Fri 18 Apr 08

spice
I agree with you, but it's hard not to have ago at one person who continually accuses everybody a supporter of the BNP just because they disagree with him.

RagReader, Horwich says...
6:18pm Fri 18 Apr 08

Sun Tzu wrote:
chas wrote: Sun Fakes like him should be banned from this site.
The guy is complaining like mad about me calling him Abu Andrew. I guess I'm getting too near the truth.
Chas then wrote -
'I notice our comments on two stories have been deleted.'
And you wonder why?

chas, suffolk says...
6:31pm Fri 18 Apr 08

Maybe it's something to do with the pong coming from Holland?

RagReader, Horwich says...
6:38pm Fri 18 Apr 08

chas wrote:
Maybe it's something to do with the pong coming from Holland?
I've just been looking at the comments on this story, have you been giving geography lessons?
Four gongs for Town Hall

Sun Tzu, says...
6:44pm Fri 18 Apr 08

RagReader wrote:
chas wrote:
Maybe it's something to do with the pong coming from Holland?
I've just been looking at the comments on this story, have you been giving geography lessons?
Four gongs for Town Hall
Go back and read it. You've been made to look a fool again.

RagReader, Horwich says...
6:45pm Fri 18 Apr 08

Sun Tzu wrote:
RagReader wrote:
chas wrote: Maybe it's something to do with the pong coming from Holland?
I've just been looking at the comments on this story, have you been giving geography lessons? Four gongs for Town Hall
Go back and read it. You've been made to look a fool again.
I know were I live.

chas, suffolk says...
7:15pm Fri 18 Apr 08

RagReader wrote:
chas wrote: Maybe it's something to do with the pong coming from Holland?
I've just been looking at the comments on this story, have you been giving geography lessons? Four gongs for Town Hall
I didn't give any comments on that story, so once again a stupid comment of yours.

chas, suffolk says...
7:23pm Fri 18 Apr 08

Rugrat
Let me test your geography. Is EAST Anglia in the east of England or the south of England?

RagReader, Horwich says...
7:25pm Fri 18 Apr 08

I asked had you been giving geography lessons, not if you'd made any comments.
Sun Tse seems to be as good at geography as you, I wondered if you'd given him lessons.
I'm still laughing at your recent claims that Holland is in Eastern Europe.

RagReader, Horwich says...
7:27pm Fri 18 Apr 08

chas wrote:
Rugrat Let me test your geography. Is EAST Anglia in the east of England or the south of England?
South East of were I live.

chas, suffolk says...
7:33pm Fri 18 Apr 08

I'm still laughing at your recent claims that Holland is in Eastern Europe.
That was in response to amateur claiming that east anglia was in the south of england. Another idiot like yourself.

chas, suffolk says...
7:35pm Fri 18 Apr 08

The other idiot also said that he lived in the county of Holland.

RagReader, Horwich says...
7:38pm Fri 18 Apr 08

chas wrote:
The other idiot also said that he lived in the county of Holland.
He should know, I can't comment on that one.
Off to th pub now, I'll take a vote on whether Suffolk is South or East of Bolton.

chas, suffolk says...
7:41pm Fri 18 Apr 08

Off to th pub now, I'll take a vote on whether Suffolk is South or East of Bolton.
That will be one to nil.

Sun Tzu, says...
8:08pm Fri 18 Apr 08

RagReader wrote:
chas wrote:
The other idiot also said that he lived in the county of Holland.
He should know, I can't comment on that one.
Off to th pub now, I'll take a vote on whether Suffolk is South or East of Bolton.
I hope the pub is next door to his house or the sadsack may get lost stagging home p1ssed.

chas, suffolk says...
8:20pm Fri 18 Apr 08

Was he with Eric Clapton or did he go to London? I walked behind wiv me old **** linnet.
But I dillied and dallied, dallied and I dillied
Lost me way and don't know where to roam.
Well you can't trust a special like the old time coppers
When you can't find your way 'ome

RagReader, Horwich says...
12:26am Sat 19 Apr 08

chas wrote:
Was he with Eric Clapton or did he go to London? I walked behind wiv me old **** linnet. But I dillied and dallied, dallied and I dillied Lost me way and don't know where to roam. Well you can't trust a special like the old time coppers When you can't find your way 'ome
Sun Tse said - 'I hope the pub is next door to his house or the sadsack may get lost stagging home p1ssed.' I know I made you two look stupid, but I can't believe you made these comments sober.

chas, suffolk says...
9:10am Sat 19 Apr 08

Rugrat
We don't have to make you look stupid, as you are more than capable of doing that yourself.

RagReader, Horwich says...
9:46am Sat 19 Apr 08

chas wrote:
Rugrat We don't have to make you look stupid, as you are more than capable of doing that yourself.
The word stupid reminded me to ask, where's Borisimo, has he been barred?

amosc99, Badhoevedorp/Bolton says...
9:51am Sat 19 Apr 08

chas wrote:
Sun Fakes like him should be banned from this site.
pot calling kettle, I do believe!!!!!

amosc99, Badhoevedorp, North Holland, The Ntherlands/Bolton, Greater Manchester, United Kingdom of England Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland says...
10:00am Sat 19 Apr 08

chas wrote:
The other idiot also said that he lived in the county of Holland.
Chav,

Get your quotation correct next time, I said county/provionce of NORTH Holland!

Again here is your georgarphy lesson, as you seem to have failed your last test!!!!!

The Netherlands is often called Holland. This is formally incorrect as North and South Holland in the western Netherlands are only two of the country's twelve provinces.

The 12 provinces being:

North Holland
South Holland
-collectively known as the Randstad

plus

Flevoland
Friesland
Drenthe
Groningen
Gelderland
Limburg
Utrecht
Zeeland
Overijssel

amosc99, Badhoevedorp, North Holland, The Ntherlands/Bolton, Greater Manchester, United Kingdom of England Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland says...
10:01am Sat 19 Apr 08

Oops missed North Brabant

Sorry!!!!
:(

amosc99, Hoofdorp says...
10:02am Sat 19 Apr 08

Oh, yes, Chav, one more thing!!!!


I'm rich and you know I am........

Today's exchange rate (with NO commission)

£1 = EUR 0.79887

amosc99, Badhoevedorp, North Holland, The Netherlands/Bolton, Greater Manchester, United Kingdom of England Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland says...
10:05am Sat 19 Apr 08

amosc99 wrote:
Oh, yes, Chav, one more thing!!!! I'm rich and you know I am........ Today's exchange rate (with NO commission) £1 = EUR 0.79887
Forgot to add that the exchange rate is not the corporate rate but the retail rate (which is ALWAYS less than the corporate rate - the corporate rate being £1 = EUR 0.83997)

chas, suffolk says...
10:06am Sat 19 Apr 08

Posted by: amosc99, Badhoevedorp, North Holland, The Ntherlands/Bolton, Greater Manchester, United Kingdom of England Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland on 10:01am today
Still doesn't know where he is.

chas, suffolk says...
10:09am Sat 19 Apr 08

amosc99 wrote:
Oh, yes, Chav, one more thing!!!! I'm rich and you know I am........ Today's exchange rate (with NO commission) £1 = EUR 0.79887
You say too much then deny it. Bebo.

chas, suffolk says...
10:13am Sat 19 Apr 08

I smell a lot more lies. Why? Oh yes, the pong from Holland is still about.

amosc99, Hoofdorp says...
10:18am Sat 19 Apr 08

chas wrote:
I smell a lot more lies. Why? Oh yes, the pong from Holland is still about.
Netherlands ? Why, I am in Bolton at this moment in time!!!!!!


Funny how its only the SOUTH that has the pong, herer in the NORTH is pong free!!!!


This now proves you are a southerner!!!!


Like how you proved it yourself!

amosc99, Hoofdorp says...
10:21am Sat 19 Apr 08

chas wrote:
Posted by: amosc99, Badhoevedorp, North Holland, The Ntherlands/Bolton, Greater Manchester, United Kingdom of England Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland on 10:01am today
Still doesn't know where he is.
I know where I am, but you don't!!! Just ahowing you that your geogrpahy is NONE EXISTANT!

How is the cow manure smell today?

amosc99, Badhoevedorp/Bolton says...
10:22am Sat 19 Apr 08

for some reason I am having abad time in spelling geography!!!

My apologies!

amosc99, Hoofdorp says...
10:24am Sat 19 Apr 08

chas wrote:
amosc99 wrote: Oh, yes, Chav, one more thing!!!! I'm rich and you know I am........ Today's exchange rate (with NO commission) £1 = EUR 0.79887
You say too much then deny it. Bebo.
so what is the exchange rate then. My exchange rate, which I quoted, comes from ABNAMRO!!! And remember I acrue NO commission fees!


What is Bebo - a term of endearment? (must be a suffolk thing as I alsways assumed it was a networking facility on the net)

RagReader, Horwich says...
10:30am Sat 19 Apr 08

chas wrote:
Posted by: amosc99, Badhoevedorp, North Holland, The Ntherlands/Bolton, Greater Manchester, United Kingdom of England Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland on 10:01am today
Still doesn't know where he is.
He's definitely not in Eastern Europe.

The United Nations Statistics Division considers Eastern Europe to consist of the following ten countries: Belarus, Bulgaria, Czech Republic, Hungary, Moldova, Poland, Romania, Russia, Slovakia, Ukraine.

chas, suffolk says...
10:32am Sat 19 Apr 08

Funny how its only the SOUTH that has the pong, herer in the NORTH is pong free!!!!
It's over most of the country, but as they say, you can't smell your own.

chas, suffolk says...
10:35am Sat 19 Apr 08

I know where I am, but you don't!!! Just ahowing you that your geogrpahy is NONE EXISTANT!
You don't know your geography. You can't even spell geography.

amosc99, Badhoevedorp/Bolton says...
10:35am Sat 19 Apr 08

chas wrote:
I smell a lot more lies. Why? Oh yes, the pong from Holland is still about.
Who is the ignorant one - who doesn't know their georgraphy?
Who doesn't know that Suffolk is SOUTH of Greater Manchester? Who doesn't know that the UK's real name is The United Kingdom of England, Scotland, Wales and NOrthern Ireland?
Who doesn't know the current retail rate of exchange?

RagReader, Horwich says...
10:35am Sat 19 Apr 08

chas wrote:
Funny how its only the SOUTH that has the pong, herer in the NORTH is pong free!!!!
It's over most of the country, but as they say, you can't smell your own.
No it isn't.

chas, suffolk says...
10:37am Sat 19 Apr 08

What is Bebo
They say that the pong from Holland comes from bull sh1te.

amosc99, Hoofdorp says...
10:38am Sat 19 Apr 08

chas wrote:
Funny how its only the SOUTH that has the pong, herer in the NORTH is pong free!!!!
It's over most of the country, but as they say, you can't smell your own.
no its not! - only covering the South of England - as BBC, ITN and SKY news say!!!!

Get your facts right, again - just really showing your ignorance - doesn't it (all southerners think that England just cover the south and nowhere else!!!!)

amosc99, Hoofdorp says...
10:39am Sat 19 Apr 08

chas wrote:
What is Bebo
They say that the pong from Holland comes from bull sh1te.
funny how I am over here and have been for a week 0- so nice try southerner?????

But which part of The Netherlands do you mean - NOrth Holland or South Holland - please prey tell!

As you know Holland is NOT the country's name but partial name to 2 of the provinces/counties!!
!!

chas, suffolk says...
10:41am Sat 19 Apr 08

Who doesn't know that Suffolk is SOUTH of Greater Manchester?
Who doesn't know that Amsterdam is SOUTH of Bolton.

amosc99, Hoofdorp says...
10:42am Sat 19 Apr 08

chas wrote:
What is Bebo
They say that the pong from Holland comes from bull sh1te.
So, you really have not watched the news - the pong originates from GERMANY and has travelled via The Netherlands, Belgium and Luxembourg, over the English Channel and is now sitting pretty over the South of England (excluding SOuth West!)


Again, get your facts right - oh ignorant southerner!

amosc99, Badhoevedorp/Bolton says...
10:44am Sat 19 Apr 08

chas wrote:
Who doesn't know that Suffolk is SOUTH of Greater Manchester?
Who doesn't know that Amsterdam is SOUTH of Bolton.
ahh! But Amsterdam is in NORTH Holland in The Netherlands so, still officially a northerner!!!!

Did I ever say that Amsterdam was same or just as north as Bolton - but its still more north than Suffolk!!!!!!

Again, nice try but once more showing your ignorance!

amosc99, Badhoevedorp/Bolton says...
10:45am Sat 19 Apr 08

chas wrote:
Who doesn't know that Suffolk is SOUTH of Greater Manchester?
Who doesn't know that Amsterdam is SOUTH of Bolton.
But as already stated - I am presently in BOLTON, isn't that North of Suffolk??? Again, still a northerner.

chas, suffolk says...
10:54am Sat 19 Apr 08

Helen Chivers of the Met Office said the origin of the smell had been narrowed down to the area of Europe roughly bordered by Holland, Germany and Belgium. Why do you keep digging a great big hole that you can't get out of?

chas, suffolk says...
10:58am Sat 19 Apr 08

Netherlands ? Why, I am in Bolton at this moment in time!!!!!!
The pong has come from Holland to England.

amosc99, Badhoevedorp/Bolton says...
10:59am Sat 19 Apr 08

Funny that's what I said - Originated in Germany - as far east as the smell starts and went via The Netherlands, Belgium (to get through Belgium it also has to go through Luxembourg) so how am I digging a hole for myself when I said the facts and you just do not know your geogrpahy!!!


You are the ones that said the pong is all over England - I never know that England just consisted of the southern counties as there is no pong here in the north!!!!

amosc99, Hoofdorp says...
11:05am Sat 19 Apr 08

chas wrote:
Netherlands ? Why, I am in Bolton at this moment in time!!!!!!
The pong has come from Holland to England.
NO it's come from Germany - even YOU have said that....

Helen Chivers of the Met Office said the origin of the smell had been narrowed down to the area of Europe roughly bordered by Holland, Germany and Belgium.


Germany being the most Eastrern country of the three!! I cannot help it if you do not know your Geography!!!!!

Anyway as previously stated Holland is not a country but part of 2 provinces/counties - so what you say is null and void as HOLLAND, alone, does not exist!


amosc99, Hoofdorp says...
11:06am Sat 19 Apr 08

chas wrote:
Netherlands ? Why, I am in Bolton at this moment in time!!!!!!
The pong has come from Holland to England.
If you are trying to be insulting then.....

You seem to be a very negative person these days?

What is the matter?

Maybe I can help with your problems - you know a problem shared is a problem halved?

I can help you seek the light at the end of your dark turbulent tunnel, if you let me. Once on the other side you will realise what a wonderful release it is.

Being friendly in today's world is very priceless and so is enriching people's knowledge of the world.

Give it a go and see how surprised at today rich variety of life and most of all see how much you will learn from the experiences.

chas, suffolk says...
11:09am Sat 19 Apr 08

amosc99 wrote:
chas wrote:
Netherlands ? Why, I am in Bolton at this moment in time!!!!!!
The pong has come from Holland to England.
If you are trying to be insulting then..... You seem to be a very negative person these days? What is the matter? Maybe I can help with your problems - you know a problem shared is a problem halved? I can help you seek the light at the end of your dark turbulent tunnel, if you let me. Once on the other side you will realise what a wonderful release it is. Being friendly in today's world is very priceless and so is enriching people's knowledge of the world. Give it a go and see how surprised at today rich variety of life and most of all see how much you will learn from the experiences.
Normal admission of defeat. I would rather believe the Met Office than you.

amosc99, Hoofdorp says...
11:13am Sat 19 Apr 08

chas wrote:
Netherlands ? Why, I am in Bolton at this moment in time!!!!!!
The pong has come from Holland to England.
Even the met office advises GERMANY, as you have pointed out( and isn't Germany more east than The Netherlands????)!!!!
!!


I just cannot help it if you do not know your geography!

PLus I just cannot help it if you insult people when you are losing and intelligent argument!!!!!


amosc99, Badhoevedorp/Bolton says...
11:15am Sat 19 Apr 08

I also like the fact that you are insulting me on other threads on here - is this the sign of a sane person who is winning an argument or is it a sign of someone losing an argument and, basically, acting like a baby and throwing his dummy out of the pram by trying to spread the argument to other threads!!!!


Again, you have been proved wrong and then you start your insults.

Where are your bully boy brothers - Boris and Zimmy. They do not seem to be here to back up your false claims??????

chas, suffolk says...
11:16am Sat 19 Apr 08

Some of the strongest smells have been reported in Reading and Basingstoke, with other reports of a stench in East Anglia, as far north as Durham
You are the ones that said the pong is all over England - I never know that England just consisted of the southern counties as there is no pong here in the north!!!!
Durham in the south of England? What an idiot.

amosc99, Badhoevedorp/Bolton says...
11:17am Sat 19 Apr 08

Your proof from your post at 10:54 thsi morning....

Helen Chivers of the Met Office said the origin of the smell had been narrowed down to the area of Europe roughly bordered by Holland, Germany and Belgium.


Now try to say that I am wrong - Germany is more east than The Netherlands - true or false?

amosc99, Hoofdorp says...
11:20am Sat 19 Apr 08

chas wrote:
Some of the strongest smells have been reported in Reading and Basingstoke, with other reports of a stench in East Anglia, as far north as Durham
You are the ones that said the pong is all over England - I never know that England just consisted of the southern counties as there is no pong here in the north!!!!
Durham in the south of England? What an idiot.
Funny, how they have never mentioned Durham on the news reports on Television. So you actually believe everything you read on the net? I bet you even believe everything Wikipedia says or even you local newspaper (oops I forgot, you don't read that as you read the BN as you think that's part of Suffolk!!!!)

Mistakes can be made on the net.


Anyway, if i is as far north a Durgham - there is ONE reason as to why it won't reach Greater Manchester - I am sure you know the answer considering your geographic skills - the one block being........?

amosc99, Badhoevedorp/Bolton says...
11:24am Sat 19 Apr 08

http://news.bbc.co.u
k/1/hi/uk/7354538.st
m

Anyone looking at the map will realise that there does seem to be something wrong with the Durham factor - seems to be a very isolated incidence of the pong???? Why???

Again, is this the same pong as what the south has got or is it something else - other readers its for you to decide but the evidence shown is that it COULD be a different smell - nothing proved!

amosc99, Badhoevedorp/Bolton says...
11:26am Sat 19 Apr 08

sorry my fault- bad curry

Posted by paul from leeds


Posted on the Sky News thread - is this the smell in Durham?????

chas, suffolk says...
11:27am Sat 19 Apr 08

Anyway, if i is as far north a Durgham - there is ONE reason as to why it won't reach Greater Manchester - I am sure you know the answer considering your geographic skills
Sorry never heard of Durgham. I got my information from the BBC News web site. Again, sooner believe them than you.

amosc99, Badhoevedorp/Bolton says...
11:30am Sat 19 Apr 08

BBC Website says it - Sky (Sky and five) doesn't, ITN (ITV and C4) doesn't, even RTL (Germany, The Netherlands, Belhium, Luxembourg and five) doesn't say Durham.


SO that is 1 news operation says Durham and 3 don't!!!

A bit one-sided I do believe (3 cannot be wrong!)

amosc99, Badhoevedorp/Bolton says...
11:32am Sat 19 Apr 08

Not giving up in telling the truth to the people, but just off to get something to eat (Subway at Burnden Park) and then getting my hair cut.


See you later ignoramous, and lets see if you can come up with some decent arguments for a change instead of limp-wristed ones.

chas, suffolk says...
11:35am Sat 19 Apr 08

may be the farthest north to report it but I smelled it this morning too, yuk

Posted by neil from newcastle-upon-tyne Go back to Holland and take your pong back with you.

RagReader, Horwich says...
12:20pm Sat 19 Apr 08

Posted by: chas, suffolk on 11:35am today
'I smelled it this morning too, yuk'
Were you smoking at the time,could explain the foul smell?

amosc99, Hoofdorp says...
12:28pm Sat 19 Apr 08

chas wrote:
may be the farthest north to report it but I smelled it this morning too, yuk Posted by neil from newcastle-upon-tyne Go back to Holland and take your pong back with you.
I do not live in HOLLAND as Holland does not exist you ignorant southerner!!!!!!!

I can why ALL southerners re as thick as pig doings and no wonder its smells of the same down there!!!!!!!

Again look at your map from the BBC - does seem to be a very isolated case - is it the same smell?? can you verify that it is the same smell????? From the evidence, from what I have seen and read it is very conjucture and could just well be a normal industrial smell that they are smelling, compared to down south.

The 2 cases are VERY isolated and nowher near the real smells - it smells of these people wanting media attention more than anything else!!!!

But that is my own point of view - what's yours, SOUTHERNER?


And, again, you are denying your own post in saying that the smell comers from GERMANY - you have even posted it in your own comment (from the BBC website) they have mentioned Germany, which if I am not wrong is more east than the Netherlands.


Again, I pose to you the BBC say it originates from Germany, The Netherlands and Belgium - which is the most eastern and as such the originating point?

Is Germany more eastern than The Netherlands? (2nd time of asking)

amosc99, Hoofdorp says...
12:29pm Sat 19 Apr 08

RagReader wrote:
Posted by: chas, suffolk on 11:35am today 'I smelled it this morning too, yuk' Were you smoking at the time,could explain the foul smell?
I think he hhas been visiting the so-called cannabis farm in near hime (FACT: there are more cannabis farms in the UK than anywher else in the world (even beats so called Liberalised Netherlands!!!)

chas, suffolk says...
12:38pm Sat 19 Apr 08

Amateur wrote
I do not live in HOLLAND as Holland does not exist
What a plonker. I wish that you didn't exist. Take the pong back to Holland with you.

amosc99, Hoofdorp says...
6:39pm Sat 19 Apr 08

chas wrote:
Amateur wrote
I do not live in HOLLAND as Holland does not exist
What a plonker. I wish that you didn't exist. Take the pong back to Holland with you.
How can I be a plonker when I am CORRECT - factually!!!


Have you forgot your Geography lesson already????

The Netherlands is often called Holland. This is formally incorrect as North and South Holland in the western Netherlands are only two of the country's twelve provinces.

The 12 provinces (or counties for the Southern English) being:

North Holland
South Holland
-collectively known as the Randstad

plus

Flevoland
Friesland
Drenthe
Groningen
Gelderland
Limburg
Utrecht
Zeeland
Overijssel
North Brabant

amosc99, Hoofdorp says...
6:43pm Sat 19 Apr 08

chas wrote:
Amateur wrote
I do not live in HOLLAND as Holland does not exist
What a plonker. I wish that you didn't exist. Take the pong back to Holland with you.
And once again, as YOU have put ion your comments the smell started in GERMANY and not The Netherlands Kingdom!!!! Remember YOUR posts states it and not me!!!! (So you are calling yourself a liar?????)

This is how much you are showing yourself up. Wht don't you go to bed, have a sleep and wake up realising YOUR msitake then come back online and apologise for making a fool of yourself.

Nighty Night Chav!


p.s. I live in the province (counties for the Southern English) of North Holland in The Netherlands Kingdom.


amosc99, Badhoevedorp/Bolton says...
7:06pm Sat 19 Apr 08

chas wrote:
Amateur wrote
I do not live in HOLLAND as Holland does not exist
What a plonker. I wish that you didn't exist. Take the pong back to Holland with you.
Lost the argument so you have to revert to insults - how very amusing and isn't that normal for a southerner!!!!

chas, suffolk says...
7:38pm Sat 19 Apr 08

And once again, as YOU have put ion your comments the smell started in GERMANY and not The Netherlands Kingdom!!!! Remember YOUR posts states it and not me!!!! (So you are calling yourself a liar?????)
Where did I say that? Liar.

chas, suffolk says...
7:40pm Sat 19 Apr 08

amosc99 wrote:
chas wrote: Amateur wrote
I do not live in HOLLAND as Holland does not exist
What a plonker. I wish that you didn't exist. Take the pong back to Holland with you.
Lost the argument so you have to revert to insults - how very amusing and isn't that normal for a southerner!!!!
I've lost no argument. Just pointing out what a plonker you are. FACT.

amosc99, Hoofdorp says...
10:01pm Sat 19 Apr 08

chas wrote:
And once again, as YOU have put ion your comments the smell started in GERMANY and not The Netherlands Kingdom!!!! Remember YOUR posts states it and not me!!!! (So you are calling yourself a liar?????)
Where did I say that? Liar.
You want proof - here is the proof - LIAR!!!!!

Posted by: chas, suffolk on 10:54am today
Helen Chivers of the Met Office said the origin of the smell had been narrowed down to the area of Europe roughly bordered by Holland, Germany and Belgium. Why do you keep digging a great big hole that you can't get out of?
Helen Chivers of the Met Office said the origin of the smell had been narrowed down to the area of Europe roughly bordered by Holland, Germany and Belgium. Why do you keep digging a great big hole that you can't get out of?


Now correct me if I am wrong but isn't Germany more east than The Netherlands Kingdom? (3rd time of asking) - If so then isn't it right that the smell originates from Germany?


Now tell me who the LIAR is, Chav?

chas, suffolk says...
10:14pm Sat 19 Apr 08

the origin of the smell had been narrowed down to the area of Europe roughly bordered by Holland, Germany and Belgium
. Read again, idiot.My quote from the Met office did not say that the pong started in Garmany and spread to Holland. Proof that YOU are the LIAR. Go back to Holland and take your lies and the pong back with you. Oh sorry, you said that Holland doesn't exist?

amosc99, Hoofdorp says...
10:21pm Sat 19 Apr 08

chas wrote:
the origin of the smell had been narrowed down to the area of Europe roughly bordered by Holland, Germany and Belgium
. Read again, idiot.My quote from the Met office did not say that the pong started in Garmany and spread to Holland. Proof that YOU are the LIAR. Go back to Holland and take your lies and the pong back with you. Oh sorry, you said that Holland doesn't exist?
Which is further East, Germany or The Netherlands? - then you have your answer - you put it in your comment therefore it MUST be true!!!!!

You are the one that has been proved a LIAR and I have proved that youare THE LIAR here and not me - so you start to use insults - a sure sign of someone losing a debate!!!

You do not even know your Geography - how St George must be ashamed of you - never mind your parent.

You live in England which is part of The United Kingdom of England Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland which is in the continent of EUROPE and yet you seem to be completely ignorant our of neighbours - how ashmed you must feel. It's no wonder you have an inherent fear of our neighbours, never mind the people who actually live next door to you.

Xenophobic bigot - I believe its what its called.


How enlightening it must be to be afraid of peopl who are different to yourself?

How is your germainc pong today?

Hmm - isn't English a distant relation of the germanic language - YES IT IS!!! How proud you must now be to realise that you actually speak a form of GERMAN!!!!

amosc99, Hoofdorp says...
10:23pm Sat 19 Apr 08

chas wrote:
the origin of the smell had been narrowed down to the area of Europe roughly bordered by Holland, Germany and Belgium
. Read again, idiot.My quote from the Met office did not say that the pong started in Garmany and spread to Holland. Proof that YOU are the LIAR. Go back to Holland and take your lies and the pong back with you. Oh sorry, you said that Holland doesn't exist?
Again - for the FOURTH time of asking - is Germany more eastern than The Netherlands Kingdom?


Or is the question too hard for you to answer

chas, suffolk says...
10:24pm Sat 19 Apr 08

chas wrote:
the origin of the smell had been narrowed down to the area of Europe roughly bordered by Holland, Germany and Belgium
. Read again, idiot.My quote from the Met office did not say that the pong started in Garmany and spread to Holland. Proof that YOU are the LIAR. Go back to Holland and take your lies and the pong back with you. Oh sorry, you said that Holland doesn\'t exist?
Idiot.

amosc99, Hoofdorp says...
10:25pm Sat 19 Apr 08

chas wrote:
Amateur wrote
I do not live in HOLLAND as Holland does not exist
What a plonker. I wish that you didn't exist. Take the pong back to Holland with you.
I wish that you didn't exist.


1st question - is that a threat to my personal being or a promise?

2nd question - is thsi a sure sign that you have actually lost your side of the debate and now just using taunts like this to scre me?

3rd question - are you ready to be banned like Boris and Zimmy, with this statement?

amosc99, Hoofdorp says...
10:27pm Sat 19 Apr 08

chas wrote:
chas wrote:
the origin of the smell had been narrowed down to the area of Europe roughly bordered by Holland, Germany and Belgium
. Read again, idiot.My quote from the Met office did not say that the pong started in Garmany and spread to Holland. Proof that YOU are the LIAR. Go back to Holland and take your lies and the pong back with you. Oh sorry, you said that Holland doesn\'t exist?
Idiot.
I like it - calling yourself an idiot - priceless (a mastercard would never cover that!!!) :-)

amosc99, Badhoevedorp/Bolton says...
10:30pm Sat 19 Apr 08

chas wrote:
may be the farthest north to report it but I smelled it this morning too, yuk Posted by neil from newcastle-upon-tyne Go back to Holland and take your pong back with you.
Now tell me - was this quote from the actual news report or a comment about the news report??????


Who seems to be the fool here, now?

chas, suffolk says...
10:33pm Sat 19 Apr 08

chas wrote:

the origin of the smell had been narrowed down to the area of Europe roughly bordered by Holland, Germany and Belgium
. Read again, idiot.My quote from the Met office did not say that the pong started in Garmany and spread to Holland. Proof that YOU are the LIAR. Go back to Holland and take your lies and the pong back with you. Oh sorry, you said that Holland doesn't exist?
Idiot

amosc99, Hoofdorp says...
10:43pm Sat 19 Apr 08

chas wrote:
chas wrote: the origin of the smell had been narrowed down to the area of Europe roughly bordered by Holland, Germany and Belgium . Read again, idiot.My quote from the Met office did not say that the pong started in Garmany and spread to Holland. Proof that YOU are the LIAR. Go back to Holland and take your lies and the pong back with you. Oh sorry, you said that Holland doesn't exist?
Idiot
Calling yourself an idiot is just VERY priceless


Once again - your knowledge does seem to be very lacking - did you ever pass O-Level Human Geography??????

The Netherlands is often called Holland. This is formally incorrect as North and South Holland in the western Netherlands are only two of the country's twelve provinces.

The 12 provinces (or counties for the Southern English) being:

North Holland
South Holland
-collectively known as the Randstad

plus

Flevoland
Friesland
Drenthe
Groningen
Gelderland
Limburg
Utrecht
Zeeland
Overijssel
North Brabant



I live in NORTH HOLLAND and NOT HOLLAND. As there is North Holland and South Holland that means that Holland (by itself) does NOT exist!

amosc99, Hoofdorp says...
10:45pm Sat 19 Apr 08

I wish that you didn't exist.


1st question - is that a threat to my personal being or a promise?

2nd question - is thsi a sure sign that you have actually lost your side of the debate and now just using taunts like this to scre me?

3rd question - are you ready to be banned like Boris and Zimmy, with this statement?


Can you answer these or are they too difficult for you, southern chav?

chas, suffolk says...
10:48pm Sat 19 Apr 08

Idiot

amosc99, Badhoevedorp/Bolton says...
10:48pm Sat 19 Apr 08

chas wrote:
“What a plonker. I wish that you didn't exist. Take the pong back to Holland with you.”

1st question - is that a threat to my personal being or a promise?

2nd question - is thsi a sure sign that you have actually lost your side of the debate and now just using taunts like this to scre me?

3rd question - are you ready to be banned like Boris and Zimmy, with this statement?


This is the kind of person that Chas really is – an intimidator. DO we really need people like this, who threaten others, on a website of this ilk?

chas, suffolk says...
11:02pm Sat 19 Apr 08

Idiot

amosc99, Hoofdorp says...
12:20am Sun 20 Apr 08

chas wrote:
“What a plonker. I wish that you didn't exist. Take the pong back to Holland with you.”

1st question - is that a threat to my personal being or a promise?

2nd question - is thsi a sure sign that you have actually lost your side of the debate and now just using taunts like this to scre me?

3rd question - are you ready to be banned like Boris and Zimmy, with this statement?


This is the kind of person that Chas really is – an intimidator. DO we really need people like this, who threaten others, on a website of this ilk?

amosc99, Hoofdorp says...
12:20am Sun 20 Apr 08

To: csudlow@theboltonnew
s.co.uk; isavage@theboltonnew
s.co.uk; lynna@the boltonnews.co.uk; amosley@theboltonnew
s.co.uk

Subject: Comments on the news section of the website

Dear Chris, Ian, Lynn and Andrew

I do now believe that it is time something is done with these jokers as they are now using language which has NEVER been used on the Wanderers section, and yet you seem to allow it all the time of the News section.


The following example is just the norm more or less every day of the week.

£91,000 watch stolen from jewellers
Banned me? Since when? I think you've been smelling too many turds of your mate buggerboy , or been in that Sweetgreen on advocat. What a first class pric you are.

Hanging round Moor Lane for little boys. Are you back here to pay some of the £64 grand or answer bail for them pictures they found?

Amos, chief spammer and all round tosser.
Posted by: Zimmy, Hooflungdung

or then there is Chas, Suffolk who does seem to take the truth and seems intent on trying to demean me on most of the stories in the news section. Plus he is often creating personal insults and verging on personal threats such as:-

chas wrote:
“What a plonker. I wish that you didn't exist. Take the pong back to Holland with you.”

Please answer this - why do you let these characters carry on and never seem to ban them, and yet they break the terms and conditions EVERY day of the week of every month. Also, why has the News section comments NEVER been suspended, unlike the Wanderers section when more stronger language and personal abuse is situte on the news section more than the Wanderers?


Yours faithfully


amosc99 (The Netherlands and originally from Bolton - see previous letters from letters pages with regards to the bus services, as well as many sound-bites with regards to the Wanderers as printed in the hard-copy of the paper)

amosc99, Hoofdorp says...
12:21am Sun 20 Apr 08

this is from Encyclopedia Britannica - which, I believe, cannot be faulted for telling the truth!

The Netherlands is often called Holland. This is formally incorrect, as Holland does not exist as country or as a province by itself , as North and South Holland in the western Netherlands are only two of the country's twelve provinces.

The 12 provinces (or counties for the Southern English) being:

North Holland
South Holland
-collectively known as the Randstad

plus

Flevoland
Friesland
Drenthe
Groningen
Gelderland
Limburg
Utrecht
Zeeland
Overijssel
North Brabant

I live in North Holland - the capital being Haarlem

The Capital of South Holland being Den Haag (The Hague) or to give the full name s'Gravenhaag.

What's the capital of Holland - there isn't one because it doesn't exist.

The TRUE capital of The Netherlands is Amsterdam, in North Holland, whilst the POLITICAL capital of The Netherlands is Den Haag, in South Holland!

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