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UPDATE: Tributes to biker killed in park accident

8:29am Thursday 1st May 2008

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THE family of a "doting father" who was killed when the motorbike he was riding crashed into a metal gate have paid tribute to him.

John Scotson, aged 27, of Newton Road, Lowton, died after he and a friend had taken a Yamaha 250cc off-road motorbike for a test ride on tracks in the Lowton area.

They were riding along a bridleway in Pennington Country Park, when they tried to negotiate a left-hand bend and the bike collided with a metal gate. Paramedics pronounced Mr Scotson dead at the scene.

Mr Scotson's friend suffered a facial injury and a suspected fracture to his leg and hand.

John's partner, Kate Collier, said: "John was a much loved partner and friend, father to Josh and Leah who will be missed very much by all his family and many friends."

Mr Scotson's mother Michelle Harriet and sister Samantha Scotson added: "John was a beloved son, nephew, doting father to Leah and Joshua, loving partner to Kate and a special friend to many.

"He will be sadly missed by all."

Anyone with information about the collision is asked to call traffic police on 0161 856 7201.


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dee, leigh says...
12:00pm Thu 1 May 08

HOW SAD....my heart goes out to johns family ....
this is so sad... he will be missed by many... thoughts are today with johns family and friends....

only me, farnworth says...
10:28am Fri 2 May 08

The word 'illegaly' seems to be missing from this story.

This idiot could not have been riding this bike legally along a bridleway as that is not permitted by law.

We should be lucky he didn't kill some innocent adult or child enjoying a walk while idiots on motorbikes whiz around them.

2 children have lost their dad to an act of illegal stupidity.

Let this be a lesson, this is the reality of actions like this.

dee, leigh says...
12:46pm Fri 2 May 08

only me wrote:
The word 'illegaly' seems to be missing from this story.

This idiot could not have been riding this bike legally along a bridleway as that is not permitted by law.

We should be lucky he didn't kill some innocent adult or child enjoying a walk while idiots on motorbikes whiz around them.

2 children have lost their dad to an act of illegal stupidity.

Let this be a lesson, this is the reality of actions like this.
i think thats a good bit harsh.. john is some ones son. someones partner.sumones father . think those comments are a bit cold at this tragic time for his family . illegal or not doest mean he deserveed to die ....... as i said before. its the family my heart goes out to...and i dont think they need to hear there loved one called an idiot ..do you ????have a bit of compasion would ya.

c, leigh says...
1:58pm Fri 2 May 08

its true though he should have never have been on tht path on tht bike. Was he wearing a helmet? proberly not must of been going at some speed to which is not safe if people or kids had been on that path.
In the flash you cant even go for an evening walk with all the youths on there bikes going at full speed along the canal and down the paths. Something has to be done to stop these people getting onto the park with these bikes they are ILLEGAL after all!

cb, leigh says...
2:09pm Fri 2 May 08

well done who wrote the last comment, dee is it? i complained yesterday about the comments, i knew im 4 9years and i agree with you, i saw these comments and it broke my heart but didnt want to write back so thank you for standing up for his family and us friends...

numyead, bolton says...
5:55pm Fri 2 May 08

I find it hard to find sympathy These people who ride these often dangerous off raod bikes on a BRIDLEWAY, OK a mans died and its a familys loss but he could have easily killed a child, spooked a horse, or worse, perhaps its a lesson to the other idiots that zoom around ILLEGALLY on these things and expect hearts and flowers when things go wrong

dee, leigh says...
6:21pm Fri 2 May 08

cb wrote:
well done who wrote the last comment, dee is it? i complained yesterday about the comments, i knew im 4 9years and i agree with you, i saw these comments and it broke my heart but didnt want to write back so thank you for standing up for his family and us friends...
its got to be stated... 'carnt find symathy'wot is she on ??she must have a steel heart..how cold was that .. its okay cold hearted people like that can say all that about illegal bike riding .at the end of the day may be she could help set some form of safe riding track up for these riders..they often get bad mouthed but yet NO ONE will give them the support to get a track up and running . theres plenty of spare land...BUT.. besides the point..STILL im sure the last thing johns family and friends need to hear are such cold hearted comments like the ones they have said...so maybe some comments are best left un said... to these cold hearted people....if you get what i mean ... Still thinking of all johns family and friends...at this sad tragic time....

maded, leigh says...
6:24pm Fri 2 May 08

numyead wrote:
I find it hard to find sympathy These people who ride these often dangerous off raod bikes on a BRIDLEWAY, OK a mans died and its a familys loss but he could have easily killed a child, spooked a horse, or worse, perhaps its a lesson to the other idiots that zoom around ILLEGALLY on these things and expect hearts and flowers when things go wrong
YOU ARE A VERY SAD COLD HEARTED PERSON > I THANK MYSELF LUCKY I AM NO RELATION TO YOU.

maded, leigh says...
6:25pm Fri 2 May 08

c wrote:
its true though he should have never have been on tht path on tht bike. Was he wearing a helmet? proberly not must of been going at some speed to which is not safe if people or kids had been on that path.
In the flash you cant even go for an evening walk with all the youths on there bikes going at full speed along the canal and down the paths. Something has to be done to stop these people getting onto the park with these bikes they are ILLEGAL after all!
YOU ARE A VERY SAD COLD HEARTED PERSON > I THANK MYSELF LUCKY I AM NO RELATION TO YOU.

bridleway walker, Bolton says...
7:12pm Fri 2 May 08

dee wrote:
cb wrote: well done who wrote the last comment, dee is it? i complained yesterday about the comments, i knew im 4 9years and i agree with you, i saw these comments and it broke my heart but didnt want to write back so thank you for standing up for his family and us friends...
its got to be stated... 'carnt find symathy'wot is she on ??she must have a steel heart..how cold was that .. its okay cold hearted people like that can say all that about illegal bike riding .at the end of the day may be she could help set some form of safe riding track up for these riders..they often get bad mouthed but yet NO ONE will give them the support to get a track up and running . theres plenty of spare land...BUT.. besides the point..STILL im sure the last thing johns family and friends need to hear are such cold hearted comments like the ones they have said...so maybe some comments are best left un said... to these cold hearted people....if you get what i mean ... Still thinking of all johns family and friends...at this sad tragic time....
Nevermind wasting tax payers money on tracks, we need traps to get these illegal bikes off the road. Would you still be so sympathetic if it was one your family or friends injured by these illegal, iresponsible people?

cb, says...
8:34pm Fri 2 May 08

bridleway walker wrote:
dee wrote:
cb wrote: well done who wrote the last comment, dee is it? i complained yesterday about the comments, i knew im 4 9years and i agree with you, i saw these comments and it broke my heart but didnt want to write back so thank you for standing up for his family and us friends...
its got to be stated... \\\'carnt find symathy\\\'wot is she on ??she must have a steel heart..how cold was that .. its okay cold hearted people like that can say all that about illegal bike riding .at the end of the day may be she could help set some form of safe riding track up for these riders..they often get bad mouthed but yet NO ONE will give them the support to get a track up and running . theres plenty of spare land...BUT.. besides the point..STILL im sure the last thing johns family and friends need to hear are such cold hearted comments like the ones they have said...so maybe some comments are best left un said... to these cold hearted people....if you get what i mean ... Still thinking of all johns family and friends...at this sad tragic time....
Nevermind wasting tax payers money on tracks, we need traps to get these illegal bikes off the road. Would you still be so sympathetic if it was one your family or friends injured by these illegal, iresponsible people?
it wuz the traps that they collided with in the 1st place n wud we b so sympathetic, he wuz my ex partner n friend so yeh wud be sympathetic and also john is gettin blamed but no1 knows for deffinet who wuz actually ridin the bike coz there wer 2 on...

dee, leigh says...
11:01pm Fri 2 May 08

well ...wot can i say bridleway walker...maybe if there was a track for these Illegal riders.. it would ensure saftey...and supervision..so you would be able to walk down your bridleway with your nose in the air ?Eh..n He was a friend of many people..(as a said in other comment);some comments are better left unsaid by mindless bridle walkers..
R.I.P john...thoughts to johns FAMILy...Comments closed from me now .RESPECT TO THOSE WHO DESERVE RESPECT... bold italic

numyead, bolton says...
2:48pm Sat 3 May 08

a track for illegal bikers? what next a road especially for drink drivers?
somegets on an bike, rides it illegally and its always someone elses fault when it goes wrong,
yes it is a tragedy that a mans died, but that should underline just what a menace these things are.
cold hearted? possibly? Im just glad this guy didnt hit a child now that would have been a real tragedy

dee, leigh says...
5:41pm Sat 3 May 08

numyead wrote:
a track for illegal bikers? what next a road especially for drink drivers?
somegets on an bike, rides it illegally and its always someone elses fault when it goes wrong,
yes it is a tragedy that a mans died, but that should underline just what a menace these things are.
cold hearted? possibly? Im just glad this guy didnt hit a child now that would have been a real tragedy
i totally understand what your saying and i am far from blaming any one else . all i was saying is johns family dont need to hear him being called a stupid idiot.. ..
yes they are dangerous but a track would eliminate these bikes from being on other public footpaths etc......

bridleway walker, Bolton says...
9:46pm Sat 3 May 08

dee wrote:
well ...wot can i say bridleway walker...maybe if there was a track for these Illegal riders.. it would ensure saftey...and supervision..so you would be able to walk down your bridleway with your nose in the air ?Eh..n He was a friend of many people..(as a said in other comment);some comments are better left unsaid by mindless bridle walkers.. R.I.P john...thoughts to johns FAMILy...Comments closed from me now .RESPECT TO THOSE WHO DESERVE RESPECT... bold italic
I do agree with the comments by numyead and I have sympathy for the 2 kids who have lost a father. As for holding my nose in the air, I can't do that cos i have to keep my eyes on my childen particularly as some of these illegal bikes are tearing round the estates and parks! Exactly 'respect to those who DESERVE respect'.

only me, farnworth says...
1:04pm Sun 4 May 08

dee wrote:
only me wrote: The word 'illegaly' seems to be missing from this story. This idiot could not have been riding this bike legally along a bridleway as that is not permitted by law. We should be lucky he didn't kill some innocent adult or child enjoying a walk while idiots on motorbikes whiz around them. 2 children have lost their dad to an act of illegal stupidity. Let this be a lesson, this is the reality of actions like this.
i think thats a good bit harsh.. john is some ones son. someones partner.sumones father . think those comments are a bit cold at this tragic time for his family . illegal or not doest mean he deserveed to die ....... as i said before. its the family my heart goes out to...and i dont think they need to hear there loved one called an idiot ..do you ????have a bit of compasion would ya.
Reality is harsh dee.

The reality is that because of this persons inconsiderate actions parents have lost a son, children have lost a dad and someone has lost their partner.

We can't keep pussyfooting around when something tragic happens to someone because of their stupid illegal actions.

There was also no mention from me about him deserving to die, he did not deserve to die, he died because of his actions.

As for compassion I have compassion for the poor people he left behind, as stated in this and my original post.

It also appears that many posters after me also seem to agree with me.

only me, farnworth says...
1:13pm Sun 4 May 08

cb wrote:
well done who wrote the last comment, dee is it? i complained yesterday about the comments, i knew im 4 9years and i agree with you, i saw these comments and it broke my heart but didnt want to write back so thank you for standing up for his family and us friends...
cb, there is nothing to complain about, my comments may be harsh but they are not defamatory or obscene, just real, and I am entitled to my opinion as asked for by the Bolton News comment facility.

only me, farnworth says...
1:22pm Sun 4 May 08

maded wrote:
numyead wrote: I find it hard to find sympathy These people who ride these often dangerous off raod bikes on a BRIDLEWAY, OK a mans died and its a familys loss but he could have easily killed a child, spooked a horse, or worse, perhaps its a lesson to the other idiots that zoom around ILLEGALLY on these things and expect hearts and flowers when things go wrong
YOU ARE A VERY SAD COLD HEARTED PERSON > I THANK MYSELF LUCKY I AM NO RELATION TO YOU.
Well done to numyead for saying what you think.

And as for maded, numyead is not cold hearted, they're just a real person who's as sick of idiots on off road bikes causing havoc as a lot of Bolton are.

madeds, leigh says...
1:26pm Mon 5 May 08

may u R.I.P john scotson..
thinking of all the family...xxgod be with u all ..

me, at whom says...
1:28pm Mon 5 May 08

only me wrote:
maded wrote:
numyead wrote: I find it hard to find sympathy These people who ride these often dangerous off raod bikes on a BRIDLEWAY, OK a mans died and its a familys loss but he could have easily killed a child, spooked a horse, or worse, perhaps its a lesson to the other idiots that zoom around ILLEGALLY on these things and expect hearts and flowers when things go wrong
YOU ARE A VERY SAD COLD HEARTED PERSON > I THANK MYSELF LUCKY I AM NO RELATION TO YOU.
Well done to numyead for saying what you think.

And as for maded, numyead is not cold hearted, they\'re just a real person who\'s as sick of idiots on off road bikes causing havoc as a lot of Bolton are.
MORE THINGS NEEDED TO KEEP OUR YOUTHS OFF THE STREETS >>>any ideas.....

cb, says...
7:03pm Mon 5 May 08

only me wrote:
cb wrote: well done who wrote the last comment, dee is it? i complained yesterday about the comments, i knew im 4 9years and i agree with you, i saw these comments and it broke my heart but didnt want to write back so thank you for standing up for his family and us friends...
cb, there is nothing to complain about, my comments may be harsh but they are not defamatory or obscene, just real, and I am entitled to my opinion as asked for by the Bolton News comment facility.
some things could be left un-said and there not asking for comments at all you can just post them if you want, also if it ever happens to your family or friend then maybe you will understand how hurtful it is to here people like you callin him an idiot and untill uknow wot actually happened you should keep your opinions to yourself............

Janine, Leigh says...
12:49pm Tue 6 May 08

I am Johns sister and I DO NOT appreciate him being called an idiot and YES you should have some compassion. This was a tragic accident and could have happened to anyone, anywhere at any time. Until you know the whole story keep you big nose out and your mouth shut...
You ignorat selfless IDIOT

chaz, says...
12:52pm Tue 6 May 08

dee wrote:
numyead wrote: a track for illegal bikers? what next a road especially for drink drivers? somegets on an bike, rides it illegally and its always someone elses fault when it goes wrong, yes it is a tragedy that a mans died, but that should underline just what a menace these things are. cold hearted? possibly? Im just glad this guy didnt hit a child now that would have been a real tragedy
i totally understand what your saying and i am far from blaming any one else . all i was saying is johns family dont need to hear him being called a stupid idiot.. .. yes they are dangerous but a track would eliminate these bikes from being on other public footpaths etc......
So u admit they are dangerous yes??
why would anyone want to build a track for these illegal bikes then?

Janine, Leigh says...
12:55pm Tue 6 May 08

Hello its Johns sister again,
I have been reading the other comments made by some pig headed cold hearted ppl.
Did u know John, obviously not, because any one that did knows what he was like, so go find soething else to gossip about and while your at it get a life!!!!!!!!!!!

chaz, says...
12:56pm Tue 6 May 08

well i dont have an illegal bike so i know im safe

Janine, Leigh says...
1:02pm Tue 6 May 08

Thanx to cb, who ever you are you said that you knew John for 9 years and obviously you knew what he was like. These other idiots have no idea and i dont wish what happened on anyone, but no one has the right to slag a DEAD man off

numyead, bolton says...
4:45pm Tue 6 May 08

Sympathy to you Janine, however cruel it sounds your brother died as a result of rideing an illegal motorbike, why not try and get something positive from the sad situation and start a campaign to highlight the dangers of these death trap motorbikes.
your family would be a powerful voice.

numyead, bolton says...
4:46pm Tue 6 May 08

Sympathy to you Janine, however cruel it sounds your brother died as a result of rideing an illegal motorbike, why not try and get something positive from the sad situation and start a campaign to highlight the dangers of these death trap motorbikes.
your family would be a powerful voice.

dee, leigh says...
11:36am Wed 7 May 08

Janine wrote:
I am Johns sister and I DO NOT appreciate him being called an idiot and YES you should have some compassion. This was a tragic accident and could have happened to anyone, anywhere at any time. Until you know the whole story keep you big nose out and your mouth shut...
You ignorat selfless IDIOT
could i firstly say ....so sorry to hear of what happened..its is a VERY sad loss for johns family my heart goes out to you all .i am contacting you ere ..as i have friends that have known john for some years .my self personal did not know john but my husband and as said a few of my friends were friends of johns..all it is is i have been asked if there are any funeral deatails as there are may whom would like to show there respect for john..sry to contact u via this web site.....for more personal reply contact me on my e mail add;boo_2_u@hotmail.
co.uk.thanx.

Chaz, lancs says...
4:09pm Wed 7 May 08

No one is badmouthing anyone they are just saying that is what you have to expect having one of those bikes. they are dangerous to start off with and even more so when not used in an appropiate place

cb, leigh says...
7:31pm Wed 7 May 08

Janine wrote:
Thanx to cb, who ever you are you said that you knew John for 9 years and obviously you knew what he was like. These other idiots have no idea and i dont wish what happened on anyone, but no one has the right to slag a DEAD man off
janine its carrie....how selfish r these lot, yhe only person tthat as stuk up 4 john is a woman called dee, i new this wud hurt u all thats why i came n said my comments...

only me, farnworth says...
9:11pm Wed 7 May 08

cb wrote:
only me wrote:
cb wrote: well done who wrote the last comment, dee is it? i complained yesterday about the comments, i knew im 4 9years and i agree with you, i saw these comments and it broke my heart but didnt want to write back so thank you for standing up for his family and us friends...
cb, there is nothing to complain about, my comments may be harsh but they are not defamatory or obscene, just real, and I am entitled to my opinion as asked for by the Bolton News comment facility.
some things could be left un-said and there not asking for comments at all you can just post them if you want, also if it ever happens to your family or friend then maybe you will understand how hurtful it is to here people like you callin him an idiot and untill uknow wot actually happened you should keep your opinions to yourself............
Yes, some things could be left unsaid, and if things were left unsaid nothing would ever get done to resolve these very dangerous situations such as speeding illegal motorbikes on bridalpaths.

I do understand it must be hard to read some of these comments but as stated before they are reality by real people, I dare say if you had no connection to the deceased you too would agree with the posters on this site.

As for calling him an idiot, if you was on that bridalpath having a lovely day with your family and a motorbike flew past you with two people on, would you not possibly use the comment 'look at those idiots flying round here on that bike'?

Both people on that bike were idoits whether operating it or riding pillion.

only me, farnworth says...
9:19pm Wed 7 May 08

Janine wrote:
I am Johns sister and I DO NOT appreciate him being called an idiot and YES you should have some compassion. This was a tragic accident and could have happened to anyone, anywhere at any time. Until you know the whole story keep you big nose out and your mouth shut... You ignorat selfless IDIOT
I am sorry for your loss as I have stated in most of my posts.

I have compassion for the family he left behind but not necisarily for him, this was not an accident, an accident is something that happens through no fault of someone, this was the fault of the rider, and this could not happen to anyone, only somebody acting foolishly and illegally.

I don't feel as if I have to know the whole story before posting a comment, it is clearly stated who was illegaly riding the motorbike in the above news article.

only me, farnworth says...
9:26pm Wed 7 May 08

Janine wrote:
Hello its Johns sister again, I have been reading the other comments made by some pig headed cold hearted ppl. Did u know John, obviously not, because any one that did knows what he was like, so go find soething else to gossip about and while your at it get a life!!!!!!!!!!!
Again, If you had no connection to the deceased would you think that someone acting illegally on a motorbike was a good thing.

This site is for debate on stories posted in the Bolton News and offers people the chance to have their say.

I see no gossip here, only people having an opinion about a story on illegal Motorbike use and endangerment to the public.

Had he have survived this, and been caught by the police, surely he would have been arrested and processed as a criminal, who had performed a criminal act?

only me, farnworth says...
9:31pm Wed 7 May 08

Janine wrote:
Thanx to cb, who ever you are you said that you knew John for 9 years and obviously you knew what he was like. These other idiots have no idea and i dont wish what happened on anyone, but no one has the right to slag a DEAD man off
I also would not wish what happened to him to happen to anyone or their families.

I see no one slagging him off only stateing facts and truths.

It seems funny that all comments from people who knew him conveniently fail to acknowledge this being an illegal dangerous activity.

only me, farnworth says...
9:35pm Wed 7 May 08

numyead wrote:
Sympathy to you Janine, however cruel it sounds your brother died as a result of rideing an illegal motorbike, why not try and get something positive from the sad situation and start a campaign to highlight the dangers of these death trap motorbikes. your family would be a powerful voice.
Again I fully agree with you numyead.

If family and friends were to take up this cause and acknowledge the illegality and dangerous nature of this it could have such a massive impact on other people to make them think twice about the consequences of their actions and the pain felt by those who could be left behind.

only me, farnworth says...
9:40pm Wed 7 May 08

cb wrote:
Janine wrote: Thanx to cb, who ever you are you said that you knew John for 9 years and obviously you knew what he was like. These other idiots have no idea and i dont wish what happened on anyone, but no one has the right to slag a DEAD man off
janine its carrie....how selfish r these lot, yhe only person tthat as stuk up 4 john is a woman called dee, i new this wud hurt u all thats why i came n said my comments...
The people posting on this site are not selfish.

Selfish is thinking you can go out on a high powered motorbike for your own enjoyment in a public place causing danger and upset to other peoples quiet relaxing day for your own selfish enjoyment.

That seems more like selfish to me.

cb, says...
10:16pm Wed 7 May 08

hows about only me u give it a rest nw n go n bother sum other family thats lost a son brother partner daddy, u must ov seen these 2 2 av such an opinion, hey...janine n the rest ov the family dont need ur same old chat so like janine said go n gat a life................
..

only me, farnworth says...
8:36pm Thu 8 May 08

cb wrote:
hows about only me u give it a rest nw n go n bother sum other family thats lost a son brother partner daddy, u must ov seen these 2 2 av such an opinion, hey...janine n the rest ov the family dont need ur same old chat so like janine said go n gat a life................ ..
I have no need to 'give it a rest' cb.

I came on here to give my opinion, as the comment board allows you to.

I have responded to crticism in an intelectual manner and within the board rules.

If I have not done this then the Bolton News would have pulled the thread and banned me from posting.

I will not be bullied by you or anyone else into not leaving my opinion on here.

I have a great life that doesn't include illegal activity and still manage to live life to the full and have a great time.

cb, says...
8:43pm Thu 8 May 08

only me wrote:
cb wrote: hows about only me u give it a rest nw n go n bother sum other family thats lost a son brother partner daddy, u must ov seen these 2 2 av such an opinion, hey...janine n the rest ov the family dont need ur same old chat so like janine said go n gat a life................ ..
I have no need to 'give it a rest' cb. I came on here to give my opinion, as the comment board allows you to. I have responded to crticism in an intelectual manner and within the board rules. If I have not done this then the Bolton News would have pulled the thread and banned me from posting. I will not be bullied by you or anyone else into not leaving my opinion on here. I have a great life that doesn't include illegal activity and still manage to live life to the full and have a great time.
gud for u n ur opinion stinks n wer do u get off tryin to say im bullyin u...grow up n let johns family bury him in peace will u...

only me, farnworth says...
10:46pm Fri 9 May 08

cb wrote:
only me wrote:
cb wrote: hows about only me u give it a rest nw n go n bother sum other family thats lost a son brother partner daddy, u must ov seen these 2 2 av such an opinion, hey...janine n the rest ov the family dont need ur same old chat so like janine said go n gat a life................ ..
I have no need to 'give it a rest' cb. I came on here to give my opinion, as the comment board allows you to. I have responded to crticism in an intelectual manner and within the board rules. If I have not done this then the Bolton News would have pulled the thread and banned me from posting. I will not be bullied by you or anyone else into not leaving my opinion on here. I have a great life that doesn't include illegal activity and still manage to live life to the full and have a great time.
gud for u n ur opinion stinks n wer do u get off tryin to say im bullyin u...grow up n let johns family bury him in peace will u...
Not everyone seems to agree with you, if you read the posts on this thread you'll see that.

I called you a bully as you are the only one telling people not to post comments on this story because you don't like what your reading and for gods sake please try to spell your replies like an adult before telling me to grow up!

cb, leigh says...
11:31am Sat 10 May 08

only me wrote:
cb wrote:
only me wrote:
cb wrote: hows about only me u give it a rest nw n go n bother sum other family thats lost a son brother partner daddy, u must ov seen these 2 2 av such an opinion, hey...janine n the rest ov the family dont need ur same old chat so like janine said go n gat a life................ ..
I have no need to \'give it a rest\' cb. I came on here to give my opinion, as the comment board allows you to. I have responded to crticism in an intelectual manner and within the board rules. If I have not done this then the Bolton News would have pulled the thread and banned me from posting. I will not be bullied by you or anyone else into not leaving my opinion on here. I have a great life that doesn\'t include illegal activity and still manage to live life to the full and have a great time.
gud for u n ur opinion stinks n wer do u get off tryin to say im bullyin u...grow up n let johns family bury him in peace will u...
Not everyone seems to agree with you, if you read the posts on this thread you\'ll see that. I called you a bully as you are the only one telling people not to post comments on this story because you don\'t like what your reading and for gods sake please try to spell your replies like an adult before telling me to grow up!
YOUR BORING NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

!!!!!

only me, farnworth says...
8:08pm Sun 11 May 08

Congratulations on posting your very first post that actually looks like it's been done by an adult!

top, leigh says...
4:31pm Mon 12 May 08

i fink u r a disgrace u shud b ashamed ov yasel u heartles person u tofee nose bridal walker thet man did nt deserve to die weather it was leagl or nt ther is a family in bits n ur stickin ya beak in wer its not wanted !!!!! respect n condolance 2 scottsons family

only me, farnworth says...
4:49pm Mon 12 May 08

I fink u need to reed da postins a bit moor 2 see dat I neva sed aneewere dat sumone deserved 2 die.

I've neva wallked dat bridal paff eva.

meeeeeeee......, leigh says...
4:24pm Tue 13 May 08

You never walked that bridalway SO WOT THE **** are you gobbing offabout ...THIS IS NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU. but....your so cold hearted...wouldnt suprise me if u'd never a lost sum 1 close to you ...you must have no life to go gobbin off . wouldnt be sa bad if you even came from LEIGH....n if you av got kids well.... firstly i feel sry for them n 2nd wud u still be going on if 1 of yours died..???????NO..dnt think so eh.....??but wot ???ur kids brought up better or sumat .... no wrongs in ur life is there not .... now why not **** in2 leigh and arrange a meeting for u to say all this personally .. if u think so much of your opinion . **** in2 leigh and meet us n say all this to our faces..cause theres lots off johns friend wud love to meet you .. ??WELL ????

only me, farnworth says...
9:34pm Tue 13 May 08

meeeeeeee...... wrote:
You never walked that bridalway SO WOT THE **** are you gobbing offabout ...THIS IS NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU. but....your so cold hearted...wouldnt suprise me if u'd never a lost sum 1 close to you ...you must have no life to go gobbin off . wouldnt be sa bad if you even came from LEIGH....n if you av got kids well.... firstly i feel sry for them n 2nd wud u still be going on if 1 of yours died..???????NO..dnt think so eh.....??but wot ???ur kids brought up better or sumat .... no wrongs in ur life is there not .... now why not **** in2 leigh and arrange a meeting for u to say all this personally .. if u think so much of your opinion . **** in2 leigh and meet us n say all this to our faces..cause theres lots off johns friend wud love to meet you .. ??WELL ????
You and your friends seem to have something for causing danger to others, you really are doing the cause no good by using threatening behaviour.

I have never gobbed off about anything, I merely posted my comment as allowed by the Bolton News Comment Feature, You can agree or disagree with my comment and this is fine as I am also allowed to agree or disagree with comments left in return, as I have done in an inteligent manner, with exception to the bit of fun using bad grammar that I posted as my last comment, which was actually still quite intelligent as a response.

There is nothing cold hearted about posting a comment saying how dangerous and criminal it was for someone to go tearing around a public area on an high powered off road motorbike.

I have lost people close to me, but as far as I know, never to dangerous stupidity.

As I have mentioned before I have a great life and live it to the full.

I don't have to live in Leigh to have an opinion about something that happens there, the same way I can have an opinion about something that happens on the other side of the world if I like.

Whether I have kids or not is nothing to do with leaving comments on this site and I would hope that I would have taught my children the dangers to themselves and others of doing illegal, stupid things, and that they would think about that before thinking about doing anything like that.

And to answer your final question/threat how stupid would someone have to be to actually agree to that?, and as I have stated before I'm not the Stupid one...

c, leigh says...
10:07am Wed 14 May 08

well said!

only me, farnworth says...
5:33pm Wed 14 May 08

c wrote:
well said!
Thank You, c.

cb, leigh says...
12:41pm Sun 18 May 08

c & only me, as john wud ov said 2 u both, GET 2 F&*k.....

only me, farnworth says...
10:22am Mon 19 May 08

cb wrote:
c & only me, as john wud ov said 2 u both, GET 2 F&*k.....
Your making him sound like a real nice chap, or are you now showing exactly what a person who illegally rides round on off road motorbikes is like?

c, leigh says...
11:23am Mon 19 May 08

we are all entitled to our opinions so y dont u go n f**k ur sel

cb, leigh says...
1:05pm Tue 20 May 08

only me wrote:
cb wrote: c & only me, as john wud ov said 2 u both, GET 2 F&*k.....
Your making him sound like a real nice chap, or are you now showing exactly what a person who illegally rides round on off road motorbikes is like?
why do u always av 2 av the last word, u musnt av long left in the world urself...

cb, leigh says...
1:08pm Tue 20 May 08

c wrote:
we are all entitled to our opinions so y dont u go n f**k ur sel
why dont u n its SELF

c, leigh says...
2:00pm Tue 20 May 08

why dont YOU stop picking at peoples opinions cb and let it go.
your only getting nasty comments because u r the one who started the childish behaviour.
And its YOU not u

cb, leigh says...
12:49pm Wed 21 May 08

says the 1 who put U themselves, ha,ha saddo, **** off nw n get a life i am, byyyeeee

only me, farnworth says...
11:54am Fri 23 May 08

cb wrote:
says the 1 who put U themselves, ha,ha saddo, **** off nw n get a life i am, byyyeeee
Nice to see your going to get a life now cb, you really are a lovely person - not.

cb, leigh says...
10:16pm Fri 23 May 08

only me wrote:
cb wrote: says the 1 who put U themselves, ha,ha saddo, **** off nw n get a life i am, byyyeeee
Nice to see your going to get a life now cb, you really are a lovely person - not.
says u u cold hearted ****........

a.voiceofreason, Bolton says...
8:34am Tue 27 May 08

One idiot less!

c, l says...
3:58pm Tue 27 May 08

well said voice of reason!!
childish behaviour cb u show your friends up well proberly just as common and chavy as you

Janine83, Leigh says...
2:21pm Tue 19 Aug 08

Hello its Johns sister again!!!
Well, John is peacefully at rest now and I have read through these comments again and I can only say that nowhere in the above article does it state that John was riding the motorbike illegaly, so u eather need to learn to read or start getting your facts right.
Notice how nobody has commented since May, whats the matter you found some other familys misery to rip the s&it out of!!!!!!!!!!!

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John was a much loved partner and friend, father to Josh and Leah who will be missed very much by all his family and many friends John was a much loved partner and friend, father to Josh and Leah who will be missed very much by all his family and many friends

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