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8:29am Thursday 1st May 2008
THE family of a "doting father" who was killed when the motorbike he was riding crashed into a metal gate have paid tribute to him.
John Scotson, aged 27, of Newton Road, Lowton, died after he and a friend had taken a Yamaha 250cc off-road motorbike for a test ride on tracks in the Lowton area.
They were riding along a bridleway in Pennington Country Park, when they tried to negotiate a left-hand bend and the bike collided with a metal gate. Paramedics pronounced Mr Scotson dead at the scene.
Mr Scotson's friend suffered a facial injury and a suspected fracture to his leg and hand.
John's partner, Kate Collier, said: "John was a much loved partner and friend, father to Josh and Leah who will be missed very much by all his family and many friends."
Mr Scotson's mother Michelle Harriet and sister Samantha Scotson added: "John was a beloved son, nephew, doting father to Leah and Joshua, loving partner to Kate and a special friend to many.
"He will be sadly missed by all."
Anyone with information about the collision is asked to call traffic police on 0161 856 7201.
only me, farnworth says...
10:28am Fri 2 May 08
dee, leigh says...
12:46pm Fri 2 May 08
only me wrote:i think thats a good bit harsh.. john is some ones son. someones partner.sumones father . think those comments are a bit cold at this tragic time for his family . illegal or not doest mean he deserveed to die ....... as i said before. its the family my heart goes out to...and i dont think they need to hear there loved one called an idiot ..do you ????have a bit of compasion would ya.
The word 'illegaly' seems to be missing from this story.
This idiot could not have been riding this bike legally along a bridleway as that is not permitted by law.
We should be lucky he didn't kill some innocent adult or child enjoying a walk while idiots on motorbikes whiz around them.
2 children have lost their dad to an act of illegal stupidity.
Let this be a lesson, this is the reality of actions like this.
c, leigh says...
1:58pm Fri 2 May 08
cb, leigh says...
2:09pm Fri 2 May 08
numyead, bolton says...
5:55pm Fri 2 May 08
dee, leigh says...
6:21pm Fri 2 May 08
cb wrote:its got to be stated... 'carnt find symathy'wot is she on ??she must have a steel heart..how cold was that .. its okay cold hearted people like that can say all that about illegal bike riding .at the end of the day may be she could help set some form of safe riding track up for these riders..they often get bad mouthed but yet NO ONE will give them the support to get a track up and running . theres plenty of spare land...BUT.. besides the point..STILL im sure the last thing johns family and friends need to hear are such cold hearted comments like the ones they have said...so maybe some comments are best left un said... to these cold hearted people....if you get what i mean ... Still thinking of all johns family and friends...at this sad tragic time....
well done who wrote the last comment, dee is it? i complained yesterday about the comments, i knew im 4 9years and i agree with you, i saw these comments and it broke my heart but didnt want to write back so thank you for standing up for his family and us friends...
maded, leigh says...
6:24pm Fri 2 May 08
numyead wrote:YOU ARE A VERY SAD COLD HEARTED PERSON > I THANK MYSELF LUCKY I AM NO RELATION TO YOU.
I find it hard to find sympathy These people who ride these often dangerous off raod bikes on a BRIDLEWAY, OK a mans died and its a familys loss but he could have easily killed a child, spooked a horse, or worse, perhaps its a lesson to the other idiots that zoom around ILLEGALLY on these things and expect hearts and flowers when things go wrong
maded, leigh says...
6:25pm Fri 2 May 08
c wrote:YOU ARE A VERY SAD COLD HEARTED PERSON > I THANK MYSELF LUCKY I AM NO RELATION TO YOU.
its true though he should have never have been on tht path on tht bike. Was he wearing a helmet? proberly not must of been going at some speed to which is not safe if people or kids had been on that path.
In the flash you cant even go for an evening walk with all the youths on there bikes going at full speed along the canal and down the paths. Something has to be done to stop these people getting onto the park with these bikes they are ILLEGAL after all!
bridleway walker, Bolton says...
7:12pm Fri 2 May 08
dee wrote:Nevermind wasting tax payers money on tracks, we need traps to get these illegal bikes off the road. Would you still be so sympathetic if it was one your family or friends injured by these illegal, iresponsible people?
cb wrote: well done who wrote the last comment, dee is it? i complained yesterday about the comments, i knew im 4 9years and i agree with you, i saw these comments and it broke my heart but didnt want to write back so thank you for standing up for his family and us friends...its got to be stated... 'carnt find symathy'wot is she on ??she must have a steel heart..how cold was that .. its okay cold hearted people like that can say all that about illegal bike riding .at the end of the day may be she could help set some form of safe riding track up for these riders..they often get bad mouthed but yet NO ONE will give them the support to get a track up and running . theres plenty of spare land...BUT.. besides the point..STILL im sure the last thing johns family and friends need to hear are such cold hearted comments like the ones they have said...so maybe some comments are best left un said... to these cold hearted people....if you get what i mean ... Still thinking of all johns family and friends...at this sad tragic time....
cb, says...
8:34pm Fri 2 May 08
bridleway walker wrote:it wuz the traps that they collided with in the 1st place n wud we b so sympathetic, he wuz my ex partner n friend so yeh wud be sympathetic and also john is gettin blamed but no1 knows for deffinet who wuz actually ridin the bike coz there wer 2 on...
dee wrote:Nevermind wasting tax payers money on tracks, we need traps to get these illegal bikes off the road. Would you still be so sympathetic if it was one your family or friends injured by these illegal, iresponsible people?cb wrote: well done who wrote the last comment, dee is it? i complained yesterday about the comments, i knew im 4 9years and i agree with you, i saw these comments and it broke my heart but didnt want to write back so thank you for standing up for his family and us friends...its got to be stated... \\\'carnt find symathy\\\'wot is she on ??she must have a steel heart..how cold was that .. its okay cold hearted people like that can say all that about illegal bike riding .at the end of the day may be she could help set some form of safe riding track up for these riders..they often get bad mouthed but yet NO ONE will give them the support to get a track up and running . theres plenty of spare land...BUT.. besides the point..STILL im sure the last thing johns family and friends need to hear are such cold hearted comments like the ones they have said...so maybe some comments are best left un said... to these cold hearted people....if you get what i mean ... Still thinking of all johns family and friends...at this sad tragic time....
dee, leigh says...
11:01pm Fri 2 May 08
numyead, bolton says...
2:48pm Sat 3 May 08
dee, leigh says...
5:41pm Sat 3 May 08
numyead wrote:i totally understand what your saying and i am far from blaming any one else . all i was saying is johns family dont need to hear him being called a stupid idiot.. ..
a track for illegal bikers? what next a road especially for drink drivers?
somegets on an bike, rides it illegally and its always someone elses fault when it goes wrong,
yes it is a tragedy that a mans died, but that should underline just what a menace these things are.
cold hearted? possibly? Im just glad this guy didnt hit a child now that would have been a real tragedy
bridleway walker, Bolton says...
9:46pm Sat 3 May 08
dee wrote:I do agree with the comments by numyead and I have sympathy for the 2 kids who have lost a father. As for holding my nose in the air, I can't do that cos i have to keep my eyes on my childen particularly as some of these illegal bikes are tearing round the estates and parks! Exactly 'respect to those who DESERVE respect'.
well ...wot can i say bridleway walker...maybe if there was a track for these Illegal riders.. it would ensure saftey...and supervision..so you would be able to walk down your bridleway with your nose in the air ?Eh..n He was a friend of many people..(as a said in other comment);some comments are better left unsaid by mindless bridle walkers.. R.I.P john...thoughts to johns FAMILy...Comments closed from me now .RESPECT TO THOSE WHO DESERVE RESPECT... bold italic
only me, farnworth says...
1:04pm Sun 4 May 08
dee wrote:Reality is harsh dee.
only me wrote: The word 'illegaly' seems to be missing from this story. This idiot could not have been riding this bike legally along a bridleway as that is not permitted by law. We should be lucky he didn't kill some innocent adult or child enjoying a walk while idiots on motorbikes whiz around them. 2 children have lost their dad to an act of illegal stupidity. Let this be a lesson, this is the reality of actions like this.i think thats a good bit harsh.. john is some ones son. someones partner.sumones father . think those comments are a bit cold at this tragic time for his family . illegal or not doest mean he deserveed to die ....... as i said before. its the family my heart goes out to...and i dont think they need to hear there loved one called an idiot ..do you ????have a bit of compasion would ya.
only me, farnworth says...
1:13pm Sun 4 May 08
cb wrote:cb, there is nothing to complain about, my comments may be harsh but they are not defamatory or obscene, just real, and I am entitled to my opinion as asked for by the Bolton News comment facility.
well done who wrote the last comment, dee is it? i complained yesterday about the comments, i knew im 4 9years and i agree with you, i saw these comments and it broke my heart but didnt want to write back so thank you for standing up for his family and us friends...
only me, farnworth says...
1:22pm Sun 4 May 08
maded wrote:Well done to numyead for saying what you think.
numyead wrote: I find it hard to find sympathy These people who ride these often dangerous off raod bikes on a BRIDLEWAY, OK a mans died and its a familys loss but he could have easily killed a child, spooked a horse, or worse, perhaps its a lesson to the other idiots that zoom around ILLEGALLY on these things and expect hearts and flowers when things go wrongYOU ARE A VERY SAD COLD HEARTED PERSON > I THANK MYSELF LUCKY I AM NO RELATION TO YOU.
madeds, leigh says...
1:26pm Mon 5 May 08
me, at whom says...
1:28pm Mon 5 May 08
only me wrote:MORE THINGS NEEDED TO KEEP OUR YOUTHS OFF THE STREETS >>>any ideas.....
maded wrote:Well done to numyead for saying what you think.
numyead wrote: I find it hard to find sympathy These people who ride these often dangerous off raod bikes on a BRIDLEWAY, OK a mans died and its a familys loss but he could have easily killed a child, spooked a horse, or worse, perhaps its a lesson to the other idiots that zoom around ILLEGALLY on these things and expect hearts and flowers when things go wrongYOU ARE A VERY SAD COLD HEARTED PERSON > I THANK MYSELF LUCKY I AM NO RELATION TO YOU.
And as for maded, numyead is not cold hearted, they\'re just a real person who\'s as sick of idiots on off road bikes causing havoc as a lot of Bolton are.
cb, says...
7:03pm Mon 5 May 08
only me wrote:some things could be left un-said and there not asking for comments at all you can just post them if you want, also if it ever happens to your family or friend then maybe you will understand how hurtful it is to here people like you callin him an idiot and untill uknow wot actually happened you should keep your opinions to yourself............
cb wrote: well done who wrote the last comment, dee is it? i complained yesterday about the comments, i knew im 4 9years and i agree with you, i saw these comments and it broke my heart but didnt want to write back so thank you for standing up for his family and us friends...cb, there is nothing to complain about, my comments may be harsh but they are not defamatory or obscene, just real, and I am entitled to my opinion as asked for by the Bolton News comment facility.
Janine, Leigh says...
12:49pm Tue 6 May 08
chaz, says...
12:52pm Tue 6 May 08
dee wrote:So u admit they are dangerous yes??
numyead wrote: a track for illegal bikers? what next a road especially for drink drivers? somegets on an bike, rides it illegally and its always someone elses fault when it goes wrong, yes it is a tragedy that a mans died, but that should underline just what a menace these things are. cold hearted? possibly? Im just glad this guy didnt hit a child now that would have been a real tragedyi totally understand what your saying and i am far from blaming any one else . all i was saying is johns family dont need to hear him being called a stupid idiot.. .. yes they are dangerous but a track would eliminate these bikes from being on other public footpaths etc......
Janine, Leigh says...
12:55pm Tue 6 May 08
chaz, says...
12:56pm Tue 6 May 08
Janine, Leigh says...
1:02pm Tue 6 May 08
numyead, bolton says...
4:45pm Tue 6 May 08
numyead, bolton says...
4:46pm Tue 6 May 08
dee, leigh says...
11:36am Wed 7 May 08
Janine wrote:could i firstly say ....so sorry to hear of what happened..its is a VERY sad loss for johns family my heart goes out to you all .i am contacting you ere ..as i have friends that have known john for some years .my self personal did not know john but my husband and as said a few of my friends were friends of johns..all it is is i have been asked if there are any funeral deatails as there are may whom would like to show there respect for john..sry to contact u via this web site.....for more personal reply contact me on my e mail add;boo_2_u@hotmail.
I am Johns sister and I DO NOT appreciate him being called an idiot and YES you should have some compassion. This was a tragic accident and could have happened to anyone, anywhere at any time. Until you know the whole story keep you big nose out and your mouth shut...
You ignorat selfless IDIOT
Chaz, lancs says...
4:09pm Wed 7 May 08
cb, leigh says...
7:31pm Wed 7 May 08
Janine wrote:janine its carrie....how selfish r these lot, yhe only person tthat as stuk up 4 john is a woman called dee, i new this wud hurt u all thats why i came n said my comments...
Thanx to cb, who ever you are you said that you knew John for 9 years and obviously you knew what he was like. These other idiots have no idea and i dont wish what happened on anyone, but no one has the right to slag a DEAD man off
only me, farnworth says...
9:11pm Wed 7 May 08
cb wrote:Yes, some things could be left unsaid, and if things were left unsaid nothing would ever get done to resolve these very dangerous situations such as speeding illegal motorbikes on bridalpaths.
only me wrote:some things could be left un-said and there not asking for comments at all you can just post them if you want, also if it ever happens to your family or friend then maybe you will understand how hurtful it is to here people like you callin him an idiot and untill uknow wot actually happened you should keep your opinions to yourself............cb wrote: well done who wrote the last comment, dee is it? i complained yesterday about the comments, i knew im 4 9years and i agree with you, i saw these comments and it broke my heart but didnt want to write back so thank you for standing up for his family and us friends...cb, there is nothing to complain about, my comments may be harsh but they are not defamatory or obscene, just real, and I am entitled to my opinion as asked for by the Bolton News comment facility.
only me, farnworth says...
9:19pm Wed 7 May 08
Janine wrote:I am sorry for your loss as I have stated in most of my posts.
I am Johns sister and I DO NOT appreciate him being called an idiot and YES you should have some compassion. This was a tragic accident and could have happened to anyone, anywhere at any time. Until you know the whole story keep you big nose out and your mouth shut... You ignorat selfless IDIOT
only me, farnworth says...
9:26pm Wed 7 May 08
Janine wrote:Again, If you had no connection to the deceased would you think that someone acting illegally on a motorbike was a good thing.
Hello its Johns sister again, I have been reading the other comments made by some pig headed cold hearted ppl. Did u know John, obviously not, because any one that did knows what he was like, so go find soething else to gossip about and while your at it get a life!!!!!!!!!!!
only me, farnworth says...
9:31pm Wed 7 May 08
Janine wrote:I also would not wish what happened to him to happen to anyone or their families.
Thanx to cb, who ever you are you said that you knew John for 9 years and obviously you knew what he was like. These other idiots have no idea and i dont wish what happened on anyone, but no one has the right to slag a DEAD man off
only me, farnworth says...
9:35pm Wed 7 May 08
numyead wrote:Again I fully agree with you numyead.
Sympathy to you Janine, however cruel it sounds your brother died as a result of rideing an illegal motorbike, why not try and get something positive from the sad situation and start a campaign to highlight the dangers of these death trap motorbikes. your family would be a powerful voice.
only me, farnworth says...
9:40pm Wed 7 May 08
cb wrote:The people posting on this site are not selfish.
Janine wrote: Thanx to cb, who ever you are you said that you knew John for 9 years and obviously you knew what he was like. These other idiots have no idea and i dont wish what happened on anyone, but no one has the right to slag a DEAD man offjanine its carrie....how selfish r these lot, yhe only person tthat as stuk up 4 john is a woman called dee, i new this wud hurt u all thats why i came n said my comments...
cb, says...
10:16pm Wed 7 May 08
only me, farnworth says...
8:36pm Thu 8 May 08
cb wrote:I have no need to 'give it a rest' cb.
hows about only me u give it a rest nw n go n bother sum other family thats lost a son brother partner daddy, u must ov seen these 2 2 av such an opinion, hey...janine n the rest ov the family dont need ur same old chat so like janine said go n gat a life................ ..
cb, says...
8:43pm Thu 8 May 08
only me wrote:gud for u n ur opinion stinks n wer do u get off tryin to say im bullyin u...grow up n let johns family bury him in peace will u...
cb wrote: hows about only me u give it a rest nw n go n bother sum other family thats lost a son brother partner daddy, u must ov seen these 2 2 av such an opinion, hey...janine n the rest ov the family dont need ur same old chat so like janine said go n gat a life................ ..I have no need to 'give it a rest' cb. I came on here to give my opinion, as the comment board allows you to. I have responded to crticism in an intelectual manner and within the board rules. If I have not done this then the Bolton News would have pulled the thread and banned me from posting. I will not be bullied by you or anyone else into not leaving my opinion on here. I have a great life that doesn't include illegal activity and still manage to live life to the full and have a great time.
only me, farnworth says...
10:46pm Fri 9 May 08
cb wrote:Not everyone seems to agree with you, if you read the posts on this thread you'll see that.
only me wrote:gud for u n ur opinion stinks n wer do u get off tryin to say im bullyin u...grow up n let johns family bury him in peace will u...cb wrote: hows about only me u give it a rest nw n go n bother sum other family thats lost a son brother partner daddy, u must ov seen these 2 2 av such an opinion, hey...janine n the rest ov the family dont need ur same old chat so like janine said go n gat a life................ ..I have no need to 'give it a rest' cb. I came on here to give my opinion, as the comment board allows you to. I have responded to crticism in an intelectual manner and within the board rules. If I have not done this then the Bolton News would have pulled the thread and banned me from posting. I will not be bullied by you or anyone else into not leaving my opinion on here. I have a great life that doesn't include illegal activity and still manage to live life to the full and have a great time.
cb, leigh says...
11:31am Sat 10 May 08
only me wrote:YOUR BORING NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
cb wrote:Not everyone seems to agree with you, if you read the posts on this thread you\'ll see that. I called you a bully as you are the only one telling people not to post comments on this story because you don\'t like what your reading and for gods sake please try to spell your replies like an adult before telling me to grow up!only me wrote:gud for u n ur opinion stinks n wer do u get off tryin to say im bullyin u...grow up n let johns family bury him in peace will u...cb wrote: hows about only me u give it a rest nw n go n bother sum other family thats lost a son brother partner daddy, u must ov seen these 2 2 av such an opinion, hey...janine n the rest ov the family dont need ur same old chat so like janine said go n gat a life................ ..I have no need to \'give it a rest\' cb. I came on here to give my opinion, as the comment board allows you to. I have responded to crticism in an intelectual manner and within the board rules. If I have not done this then the Bolton News would have pulled the thread and banned me from posting. I will not be bullied by you or anyone else into not leaving my opinion on here. I have a great life that doesn\'t include illegal activity and still manage to live life to the full and have a great time.
only me, farnworth says...
8:08pm Sun 11 May 08
top, leigh says...
4:31pm Mon 12 May 08
only me, farnworth says...
4:49pm Mon 12 May 08
meeeeeeee......, leigh says...
4:24pm Tue 13 May 08
only me, farnworth says...
9:34pm Tue 13 May 08
meeeeeeee...... wrote:You and your friends seem to have something for causing danger to others, you really are doing the cause no good by using threatening behaviour.
You never walked that bridalway SO WOT THE **** are you gobbing offabout ...THIS IS NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU. but....your so cold hearted...wouldnt suprise me if u'd never a lost sum 1 close to you ...you must have no life to go gobbin off . wouldnt be sa bad if you even came from LEIGH....n if you av got kids well.... firstly i feel sry for them n 2nd wud u still be going on if 1 of yours died..???????NO..dnt think so eh.....??but wot ???ur kids brought up better or sumat .... no wrongs in ur life is there not .... now why not **** in2 leigh and arrange a meeting for u to say all this personally .. if u think so much of your opinion . **** in2 leigh and meet us n say all this to our faces..cause theres lots off johns friend wud love to meet you .. ??WELL ????
c, leigh says...
10:07am Wed 14 May 08
only me, farnworth says...
5:33pm Wed 14 May 08
c wrote:Thank You, c.
well said!
cb, leigh says...
12:41pm Sun 18 May 08
only me, farnworth says...
10:22am Mon 19 May 08
cb wrote:Your making him sound like a real nice chap, or are you now showing exactly what a person who illegally rides round on off road motorbikes is like?
c & only me, as john wud ov said 2 u both, GET 2 F&*k.....
c, leigh says...
11:23am Mon 19 May 08
cb, leigh says...
1:05pm Tue 20 May 08
only me wrote:why do u always av 2 av the last word, u musnt av long left in the world urself...
cb wrote: c & only me, as john wud ov said 2 u both, GET 2 F&*k.....Your making him sound like a real nice chap, or are you now showing exactly what a person who illegally rides round on off road motorbikes is like?
cb, leigh says...
1:08pm Tue 20 May 08
c wrote:why dont u n its SELF
we are all entitled to our opinions so y dont u go n f**k ur sel
c, leigh says...
2:00pm Tue 20 May 08
cb, leigh says...
12:49pm Wed 21 May 08
only me, farnworth says...
11:54am Fri 23 May 08
cb wrote:Nice to see your going to get a life now cb, you really are a lovely person - not.
says the 1 who put U themselves, ha,ha saddo, **** off nw n get a life i am, byyyeeee
cb, leigh says...
10:16pm Fri 23 May 08
only me wrote:says u u cold hearted ****........
cb wrote: says the 1 who put U themselves, ha,ha saddo, **** off nw n get a life i am, byyyeeeeNice to see your going to get a life now cb, you really are a lovely person - not.
a.voiceofreason, Bolton says...
8:34am Tue 27 May 08
c, l says...
3:58pm Tue 27 May 08
Janine83, Leigh says...
2:21pm Tue 19 Aug 08
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dee, leigh says...
12:00pm Thu 1 May 08
this is so sad... he will be missed by many... thoughts are today with johns family and friends....