Smithills Coaching House is set to close

Smithills Coaching house is to close — and will not be opening again as a restaurant.

The restaurant, which is housed in the stables of the neighbouring Grade I-listed Smithills Hall, has been sold by its owners after 46 years of trading.

Staff at the Smithills Dean Road restaurant, some of whom have worked there for 30 years, have been given their notices and told the restaurant will cease trading on August 27.

There are about 30 mem- bers of staff who will all be made redundant when the restaurant shuts.

It is not known who has bought the building, but the new owners are believed not to want to continue running a restaurant and are thought to be considering structural changes, although no plan- ning applications have been submitted to Bolton Council.

The family-owned business was opened in 1966 by broth- ers Alan and Donald Clarke and remains divided in shares between the family.

Alan’s son Don Clarke, who says he retains an interest in the restaurant but is not directly involved in the day- to-day running, would not comment on the sale.

Mark Buls, director of Smithills Coaching House Holdings Ltd, was also unavailable for comment.

But an employee, who asked not to be named, said staff had been told earlier this year that the restaurant was up for sale and they had been unable to take bookings for weddings and future events. Last week, staff were told individually it would be clos- ing and they would lose their jobs. The staff member said: “People are feeling disgruntled and the atmosphere is a bit frosty. We have expected this for months. It has been running down over the past two years and they haven’t given us a reason why.

“It has been struggling for a while now, people have left and not been replaced.

“We have all just been waiting, knowing it could happen at any time.”

Cllr Roger Hayes, leader of the Liberal Democrat group and Smithills ward council- lor, was shocked to hear the news. He said: “It will be sad for a number of aspects. It is an institution in the area and a lot of people enjoy going there, and it does pro- vide a lot of jobs in the area.”

Ward councillor Carole Swarbrick said: “I am very sad for the people who will lose their jobs and because there will be speculation about what is going to hap- pen to the building.

“I am sorry because it has been an institution there for years. It has always been considered good value for money and people will genuinely be sad that it is going.”

Civic Trust chairman Brian Tetlow said: “It is rather sad because it is the end of a long era. I would hope that some- body would take it up and continue the service.”

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9:41am Sat 9 Jun 12

Kenipetwoman says...

Why does everybody with money have to ruin things? Why make structural changes, for what purpose? If it ain't broke........ More money than sense, Bolton council should put a stop to these stupid requests!
Why does everybody with money have to ruin things? Why make structural changes, for what purpose? If it ain't broke........ More money than sense, Bolton council should put a stop to these stupid requests! Kenipetwoman
  • Score: 10

10:03am Sat 9 Jun 12

wild one says...

The Fat controller Clr Morris new about this months ago....mmmm
The Fat controller Clr Morris new about this months ago....mmmm wild one
  • Score: 15

10:34am Sat 9 Jun 12

atlas123 says...

I have to say we had a christmas do at the coaching house about 4 yrs ago. The food was shocking, but a fantastic location and building.

We dont know what the plans are, so lets not object to change (if it had never changed it would still be bloody stables). Lets wait and see what the plans are for the building, it might be even better.

Of course its awful news for the staff, and having been made redundant 3 times in my working life (building industry) i can only have every sympathy and with them the best of luck.
I have to say we had a christmas do at the coaching house about 4 yrs ago. The food was shocking, but a fantastic location and building. We dont know what the plans are, so lets not object to change (if it had never changed it would still be bloody stables). Lets wait and see what the plans are for the building, it might be even better. Of course its awful news for the staff, and having been made redundant 3 times in my working life (building industry) i can only have every sympathy and with them the best of luck. atlas123
  • Score: 6

10:35am Sat 9 Jun 12

tipsy61 says...

sad news. had great meals theree over the years and also our wedding reception
sad news. had great meals theree over the years and also our wedding reception tipsy61
  • Score: 6

10:35am Sat 9 Jun 12

tipsy61 says...

sad news. had great meals theree over the years and also our wedding reception
sad news. had great meals theree over the years and also our wedding reception tipsy61
  • Score: 4

10:39am Sat 9 Jun 12

------ says...

I must say people who might work there have known for months. But it still not fair for people who have worked there for number of years and getting treated this way, I am glad they have finally put a date on the closing instead of stringing the staff along. To find a Job these’s days is hard enough, i wish all the staff at Smithills coaching house all the best in the future.
I must say people who might work there have known for months. But it still not fair for people who have worked there for number of years and getting treated this way, I am glad they have finally put a date on the closing instead of stringing the staff along. To find a Job these’s days is hard enough, i wish all the staff at Smithills coaching house all the best in the future. ------
  • Score: 12

10:39am Sat 9 Jun 12

local villager says...

Sad news my mum got married here lets hope they dont make it into more apartments
Sad news my mum got married here lets hope they dont make it into more apartments local villager
  • Score: 10

10:44am Sat 9 Jun 12

macauley says...

lets face it.it is just another has been in bolton,i will not be crying over it.
lets face it.it is just another has been in bolton,i will not be crying over it. macauley
  • Score: -2

10:51am Sat 9 Jun 12

macauley says...

atlas123 wrote:
I have to say we had a christmas do at the coaching house about 4 yrs ago. The food was shocking, but a fantastic location and building. We dont know what the plans are, so lets not object to change (if it had never changed it would still be bloody stables). Lets wait and see what the plans are for the building, it might be even better. Of course its awful news for the staff, and having been made redundant 3 times in my working life (building industry) i can only have every sympathy and with them the best of luck.
i agree with the comment the food was shocking.
[quote][p][bold]atlas123[/bold] wrote: I have to say we had a christmas do at the coaching house about 4 yrs ago. The food was shocking, but a fantastic location and building. We dont know what the plans are, so lets not object to change (if it had never changed it would still be bloody stables). Lets wait and see what the plans are for the building, it might be even better. Of course its awful news for the staff, and having been made redundant 3 times in my working life (building industry) i can only have every sympathy and with them the best of luck.[/p][/quote]i agree with the comment the food was shocking. macauley
  • Score: 4

11:01am Sat 9 Jun 12

hoboh2o says...

macauley wrote:
lets face it.it is just another has been in bolton,i will not be crying over it.
WRONG!
It used to be a very nice place going back 20 years or more but serious sitting on their ar*es and pure bad management let the place and standards decline badly. Last meal we had there was about 12 months ago and the food was terrible, the general impression was the place was not cleaned correctly and the gents toilets were the same as 20+ years ago!
You cannot stand still and live off a reputation.
[quote][p][bold]macauley[/bold] wrote: lets face it.it is just another has been in bolton,i will not be crying over it.[/p][/quote]WRONG! It used to be a very nice place going back 20 years or more but serious sitting on their ar*es and pure bad management let the place and standards decline badly. Last meal we had there was about 12 months ago and the food was terrible, the general impression was the place was not cleaned correctly and the gents toilets were the same as 20+ years ago! You cannot stand still and live off a reputation. hoboh2o
  • Score: 7

11:47am Sat 9 Jun 12

Kenipetwoman says...

It's just like why was the old college on Manchester road knocked down?
It's just like why was the old college on Manchester road knocked down? Kenipetwoman
  • Score: 5

2:16pm Sat 9 Jun 12

ablueroom says...

Terrible place, terrible food and terrible staff - about time it was razed to the ground.
Terrible place, terrible food and terrible staff - about time it was razed to the ground. ablueroom
  • Score: -7

2:18pm Sat 9 Jun 12

Lucky Phil says...

Shame, happy memories of this place, going for Sunday lunch with parents as a kid;
Used to hang around there when off school -(probably classed as anti social behaviour now !!) Last visit about 3 yrs ago, staff friendly, place still as I recall but food poor.
Shame, happy memories of this place, going for Sunday lunch with parents as a kid; Used to hang around there when off school -(probably classed as anti social behaviour now !!) Last visit about 3 yrs ago, staff friendly, place still as I recall but food poor. Lucky Phil
  • Score: 6

2:32pm Sat 9 Jun 12

grimtown says...

Kenipetwoman wrote:
It's just like why was the old college on Manchester road knocked down?
Aparently according to Cllr Morris it had asbestos. so all those years it was fit for pupose and when it suits to sell the land. Bet its never going to be sold another town centre eyesore. The local rat population will surely enjoy it though.
by the way Keith Davies gets £80,000 pa to ruin the town owe sorry Keith regenerate the town. Keith Merchant quarter Sh*t Whole of an area bet the patrons of the Travelodge enjoy the amnitey of the Merchant Quarter you are providingther, bet they think there in a cosmopolitan city centre thought of a new career yet.
value for money Smithills gave Bolton Council ????????? Answers to Cllr Morris
[quote][p][bold]Kenipetwoman[/bold] wrote: It's just like why was the old college on Manchester road knocked down?[/p][/quote]Aparently according to Cllr Morris it had asbestos. so all those years it was fit for pupose and when it suits to sell the land. Bet its never going to be sold another town centre eyesore. The local rat population will surely enjoy it though. by the way Keith Davies gets £80,000 pa to ruin the town owe sorry Keith regenerate the town. Keith Merchant quarter Sh*t Whole of an area bet the patrons of the Travelodge enjoy the amnitey of the Merchant Quarter you are providingther, bet they think there in a cosmopolitan city centre thought of a new career yet. value for money Smithills gave Bolton Council ????????? Answers to Cllr Morris grimtown
  • Score: -3

2:48pm Sat 9 Jun 12

wonderer74 says...

I thought, until a minute ago, that at least one thing in this world was still sacred. Apparently not.

I'm speechless.
I thought, until a minute ago, that at least one thing in this world was still sacred. Apparently not. I'm speechless. wonderer74
  • Score: 6

2:49pm Sat 9 Jun 12

ablueroom says...

Grimtown - did you actually go to school? I have no idea what you're trying to say in your garbled mother-tongue.
Grimtown - did you actually go to school? I have no idea what you're trying to say in your garbled mother-tongue. ablueroom
  • Score: 7

2:53pm Sat 9 Jun 12

wild one says...

ill try to make it easy...anything that CLR Morris has his fingers in its doomed for failure. hes as bent as a nine bob note
ill try to make it easy...anything that CLR Morris has his fingers in its doomed for failure. hes as bent as a nine bob note wild one
  • Score: 18

2:54pm Sat 9 Jun 12

Kenipetwoman says...

Cold morris is a big f*t ****** and no, the stars do not mean walker.
Cold morris is a big f*t ****** and no, the stars do not mean walker. Kenipetwoman
  • Score: 12

3:10pm Sat 9 Jun 12

ablueroom says...

Why has Clr Morris been introduced into the melting the pot of reason? I thought this was a blog celebrating the demise of one of the worst "eateries" in the area - if not THE worst! This place was so bad, it made MaxMax seem almost palatable . . . almost. Food of the calibre sold by SCH belonged in the dark days of the 70s, it was awful - truly awful. One of the good things of recession is that the dead wood is cut out giving way to opportunities for people who actually care, who actually HAVE to care to make a success of their ventures.
Why has Clr Morris been introduced into the melting the pot of reason? I thought this was a blog celebrating the demise of one of the worst "eateries" in the area - if not THE worst! This place was so bad, it made MaxMax seem almost palatable . . . almost. Food of the calibre sold by SCH belonged in the dark days of the 70s, it was awful - truly awful. One of the good things of recession is that the dead wood is cut out giving way to opportunities for people who actually care, who actually HAVE to care to make a success of their ventures. ablueroom
  • Score: 2

3:10pm Sat 9 Jun 12

stantheman133 says...

Whether the food is good or bad its down to taste, but a lot of people that I have met around England know of the place and when it goes it will be a big loss to Bolton. I did a lot of my courting there with my late wife and it brings back lots of memory's for me. It will be a sad loss.
Whether the food is good or bad its down to taste, but a lot of people that I have met around England know of the place and when it goes it will be a big loss to Bolton. I did a lot of my courting there with my late wife and it brings back lots of memory's for me. It will be a sad loss. stantheman133
  • Score: 8

3:23pm Sat 9 Jun 12

wild one says...

ablueroom wrote:
Why has Clr Morris been introduced into the melting the pot of reason? I thought this was a blog celebrating the demise of one of the worst "eateries" in the area - if not THE worst! This place was so bad, it made MaxMax seem almost palatable . . . almost. Food of the calibre sold by SCH belonged in the dark days of the 70s, it was awful - truly awful. One of the good things of recession is that the dead wood is cut out giving way to opportunities for people who actually care, who actually HAVE to care to make a success of their ventures.
because morris has shares in sch, get rid, sell it off, quick buck...told you he is bent
[quote][p][bold]ablueroom[/bold] wrote: Why has Clr Morris been introduced into the melting the pot of reason? I thought this was a blog celebrating the demise of one of the worst "eateries" in the area - if not THE worst! This place was so bad, it made MaxMax seem almost palatable . . . almost. Food of the calibre sold by SCH belonged in the dark days of the 70s, it was awful - truly awful. One of the good things of recession is that the dead wood is cut out giving way to opportunities for people who actually care, who actually HAVE to care to make a success of their ventures.[/p][/quote]because morris has shares in sch, get rid, sell it off, quick buck...told you he is bent wild one
  • Score: 10

3:33pm Sat 9 Jun 12

shireen says...

This is what happens when the local team gets relegated.It takes a knock on effect on the whole town.
This is what happens when the local team gets relegated.It takes a knock on effect on the whole town. shireen
  • Score: -1

3:40pm Sat 9 Jun 12

wild one says...

shireen wrote:
This is what happens when the local team gets relegated.It takes a knock on effect on the whole town.
the mind boggles
[quote][p][bold]shireen[/bold] wrote: This is what happens when the local team gets relegated.It takes a knock on effect on the whole town.[/p][/quote]the mind boggles wild one
  • Score: 9

3:43pm Sat 9 Jun 12

ablueroom says...

Gawd, another stretch of the imagination . . . it nows seems had Bolton Wanderers played at the level their salaries suggest they should, Smithills Coaching House, despite having the most dire black puddings in the Northern Hemisphere, would have been granted salvation giving it the opportunity to plumb even deeper depths of culinary tragedy!!! Let me guess, the apparently rotund Clr Morris failed to make the grade on the pitch and single-handedly got our largely Nordic home team relegated?
Gawd, another stretch of the imagination . . . it nows seems had Bolton Wanderers played at the level their salaries suggest they should, Smithills Coaching House, despite having the most dire black puddings in the Northern Hemisphere, would have been granted salvation giving it the opportunity to plumb even deeper depths of culinary tragedy!!! Let me guess, the apparently rotund Clr Morris failed to make the grade on the pitch and single-handedly got our largely Nordic home team relegated? ablueroom
  • Score: 1

3:52pm Sat 9 Jun 12

wild one says...

Angleman wrote:
Great location for an Islamic college!
got it in one :)
[quote][p][bold]Angleman[/bold] wrote: Great location for an Islamic college![/p][/quote]got it in one :) wild one
  • Score: 1

4:22pm Sat 9 Jun 12

ablueroom says...

wild one wrote:
ablueroom wrote:
Why has Clr Morris been introduced into the melting the pot of reason? I thought this was a blog celebrating the demise of one of the worst "eateries" in the area - if not THE worst! This place was so bad, it made MaxMax seem almost palatable . . . almost. Food of the calibre sold by SCH belonged in the dark days of the 70s, it was awful - truly awful. One of the good things of recession is that the dead wood is cut out giving way to opportunities for people who actually care, who actually HAVE to care to make a success of their ventures.
because morris has shares in sch, get rid, sell it off, quick buck...told you he is bent
Its a fair comment that Clr Morris had a financial interest in SCH - but resigned his directorship in October 2008. Quite a while go now, I'm sure you will agree. I still don't see why he, rather than the aforementioned black puddings, is to blame (if blame is the right word) for the demise of the place. From my limited experience of the place, it was clear that the management had no idea what food actually is. It may not have been the most expensive restaurant in the area, but it was certainly the most over-priced.
[quote][p][bold]wild one[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ablueroom[/bold] wrote: Why has Clr Morris been introduced into the melting the pot of reason? I thought this was a blog celebrating the demise of one of the worst "eateries" in the area - if not THE worst! This place was so bad, it made MaxMax seem almost palatable . . . almost. Food of the calibre sold by SCH belonged in the dark days of the 70s, it was awful - truly awful. One of the good things of recession is that the dead wood is cut out giving way to opportunities for people who actually care, who actually HAVE to care to make a success of their ventures.[/p][/quote]because morris has shares in sch, get rid, sell it off, quick buck...told you he is bent[/p][/quote]Its a fair comment that Clr Morris had a financial interest in SCH - but resigned his directorship in October 2008. Quite a while go now, I'm sure you will agree. I still don't see why he, rather than the aforementioned black puddings, is to blame (if blame is the right word) for the demise of the place. From my limited experience of the place, it was clear that the management had no idea what food actually is. It may not have been the most expensive restaurant in the area, but it was certainly the most over-priced. ablueroom
  • Score: 1

4:23pm Sat 9 Jun 12

Muppet80 says...

Disgusted by some of the racist comments on here but I have to agree Bolton is being run into the ground, how long before the whole town is sold off to the highest bidder and turned into landfill?
The town centre has some lovely architecture but this goes mainly unnoticed because it's such a grim place to be. Boarded up shops, building sites that have been rubble for years (ie the old bingo halls) etc. I was quite shocked when I read this article as it's another huge part of Boltons history being destroyed, and what for? More houses? Apartments? Another barely used hotel?
Surely the people of the town have a right to know what's going on before the very last minute. I'm all for progress but at what cost?
Disgusted by some of the racist comments on here but I have to agree Bolton is being run into the ground, how long before the whole town is sold off to the highest bidder and turned into landfill? The town centre has some lovely architecture but this goes mainly unnoticed because it's such a grim place to be. Boarded up shops, building sites that have been rubble for years (ie the old bingo halls) etc. I was quite shocked when I read this article as it's another huge part of Boltons history being destroyed, and what for? More houses? Apartments? Another barely used hotel? Surely the people of the town have a right to know what's going on before the very last minute. I'm all for progress but at what cost? Muppet80
  • Score: 13

4:30pm Sat 9 Jun 12

Apeface68 says...

I used to work somewhere that brought me into contact with the manager of this place and he was the rudest horrible man to deal with so I hope he has lost his job with it closing. He deserves nothing less.
I used to work somewhere that brought me into contact with the manager of this place and he was the rudest horrible man to deal with so I hope he has lost his job with it closing. He deserves nothing less. Apeface68
  • Score: 8

4:33pm Sat 9 Jun 12

ablueroom says...

Grimtown again gives us a shining example of what it means to be a well-educated and rounded member of society. One wonders why he or she (I'll run with he purely for brevity) sets himself above the races he derides, despite not being able to speak or spell his own tongue. Clearly, and in spite of the evidence he provides, the presumably non-Islamic school he attended was academically superior to Academies springing up across the country - academies that will produce the doctors, lawyers and engineers of our future, or at the very least - pupils that unlike Grimtown, could be bothered to learn.
Grimtown again gives us a shining example of what it means to be a well-educated and rounded member of society. One wonders why he or she (I'll run with he purely for brevity) sets himself above the races he derides, despite not being able to speak or spell his own tongue. Clearly, and in spite of the evidence he provides, the presumably non-Islamic school he attended was academically superior to Academies springing up across the country - academies that will produce the doctors, lawyers and engineers of our future, or at the very least - pupils that unlike Grimtown, could be bothered to learn. ablueroom
  • Score: 2

4:35pm Sat 9 Jun 12

davidjb says...

wish people would see that it's not being destroyed only the bloody restaurant is closing & that it will not be another restaurant when the owner does what he wants with his property.
wish people would see that it's not being destroyed only the bloody restaurant is closing & that it will not be another restaurant when the owner does what he wants with his property. davidjb
  • Score: 4

5:04pm Sat 9 Jun 12

grimtown says...

ablueroom wrote:
Grimtown again gives us a shining example of what it means to be a well-educated and rounded member of society. One wonders why he or she (I'll run with he purely for brevity) sets himself above the races he derides, despite not being able to speak or spell his own tongue. Clearly, and in spite of the evidence he provides, the presumably non-Islamic school he attended was academically superior to Academies springing up across the country - academies that will produce the doctors, lawyers and engineers of our future, or at the very least - pupils that unlike Grimtown, could be bothered to learn.
Liverpool Grooming case. May not be able to spell as dyslexic no qualifications but probably my IQ is a lot higher than yours,

haha
[quote][p][bold]ablueroom[/bold] wrote: Grimtown again gives us a shining example of what it means to be a well-educated and rounded member of society. One wonders why he or she (I'll run with he purely for brevity) sets himself above the races he derides, despite not being able to speak or spell his own tongue. Clearly, and in spite of the evidence he provides, the presumably non-Islamic school he attended was academically superior to Academies springing up across the country - academies that will produce the doctors, lawyers and engineers of our future, or at the very least - pupils that unlike Grimtown, could be bothered to learn.[/p][/quote]Liverpool Grooming case. May not be able to spell as dyslexic no qualifications but probably my IQ is a lot higher than yours, haha grimtown
  • Score: -5

5:19pm Sat 9 Jun 12

ablueroom says...

Your IQ is probably a lot higher than mine? I wonder why you felt the need to compete, does saying that make you feel better? Just reading the list of famous people with dyslexia at http://www.dyslexia.
com/famous.htm - some rather impressive folk on there who no doubt, like yourself, have a far greater IQ than mine and also seem to have not let the condition get in their way. Anyway, lets judge a race and a religion on a grooming case shall we, it makes us white christians feel better about on our holocaustic history.
Your IQ is probably a lot higher than mine? I wonder why you felt the need to compete, does saying that make you feel better? Just reading the list of famous people with dyslexia at http://www.dyslexia. com/famous.htm - some rather impressive folk on there who no doubt, like yourself, have a far greater IQ than mine and also seem to have not let the condition get in their way. Anyway, lets judge a race and a religion on a grooming case shall we, it makes us white christians feel better about on our holocaustic history. ablueroom
  • Score: 0

5:24pm Sat 9 Jun 12

Kenipetwoman says...

There are more mosques and training schools in Bolton than people! Why was the old nunnery in Deane closed n now its a terrorist I mean Islamic training school
There are more mosques and training schools in Bolton than people! Why was the old nunnery in Deane closed n now its a terrorist I mean Islamic training school Kenipetwoman
  • Score: 1

5:34pm Sat 9 Jun 12

bigbuffbagwell says...

so is SCH not a listed building seen as it is part of Smithills hall?
so is SCH not a listed building seen as it is part of Smithills hall? bigbuffbagwell
  • Score: 2

5:48pm Sat 9 Jun 12

grimtown says...

ablueroom wrote:
Your IQ is probably a lot higher than mine? I wonder why you felt the need to compete, does saying that make you feel better? Just reading the list of famous people with dyslexia at http://www.dyslexia.

com/famous.htm - some rather impressive folk on there who no doubt, like yourself, have a far greater IQ than mine and also seem to have not let the condition get in their way. Anyway, lets judge a race and a religion on a grooming case shall we, it makes us white christians feel better about on our holocaustic history.
Just seems that the towns focus and culture is being erroded. The Council is only interested in demolishing cultural heritage both infurstructure and social make up. It is very easy to ghange culture but is it for the better. Bolton is one of the few towns in the Uk that participates in the NASS. And seems to be one of the fastiest deterioating towns in the UK.
We are not attracting the correct people to the town.

Are you content with the look of the town and the crumbling infurstructure while the council promotes NASS and inclusion for all ?

The appearance of the town is a disgrace the people have no pride in the town, litter everywhere boarded businesses no green areas !

Too many people on long term benefit, too many alcoholics,drug addicts criminals a violant town centre.

If anyone speaks their mind in the Uk you get badged as a racist. Doubt that I'm one just a concerned hard working individual.

My opinion is the focus of BMC seems to be in one direction this is an opinion,
[quote][p][bold]ablueroom[/bold] wrote: Your IQ is probably a lot higher than mine? I wonder why you felt the need to compete, does saying that make you feel better? Just reading the list of famous people with dyslexia at http://www.dyslexia. com/famous.htm - some rather impressive folk on there who no doubt, like yourself, have a far greater IQ than mine and also seem to have not let the condition get in their way. Anyway, lets judge a race and a religion on a grooming case shall we, it makes us white christians feel better about on our holocaustic history.[/p][/quote]Just seems that the towns focus and culture is being erroded. The Council is only interested in demolishing cultural heritage both infurstructure and social make up. It is very easy to ghange culture but is it for the better. Bolton is one of the few towns in the Uk that participates in the NASS. And seems to be one of the fastiest deterioating towns in the UK. We are not attracting the correct people to the town. Are you content with the look of the town and the crumbling infurstructure while the council promotes NASS and inclusion for all ? The appearance of the town is a disgrace the people have no pride in the town, litter everywhere boarded businesses no green areas ! Too many people on long term benefit, too many alcoholics,drug addicts criminals a violant town centre. If anyone speaks their mind in the Uk you get badged as a racist. Doubt that I'm one just a concerned hard working individual. My opinion is the focus of BMC seems to be in one direction this is an opinion, grimtown
  • Score: 5

5:49pm Sat 9 Jun 12

gonchbwfc says...

bout time... it's been crap for years.. food and waitress service as been awful...
bout time... it's been crap for years.. food and waitress service as been awful... gonchbwfc
  • Score: 1

5:52pm Sat 9 Jun 12

ablueroom says...

grimtown wrote:
ablueroom wrote:
Your IQ is probably a lot higher than mine? I wonder why you felt the need to compete, does saying that make you feel better? Just reading the list of famous people with dyslexia at http://www.dyslexia.


com/famous.htm - some rather impressive folk on there who no doubt, like yourself, have a far greater IQ than mine and also seem to have not let the condition get in their way. Anyway, lets judge a race and a religion on a grooming case shall we, it makes us white christians feel better about on our holocaustic history.
Just seems that the towns focus and culture is being erroded. The Council is only interested in demolishing cultural heritage both infurstructure and social make up. It is very easy to ghange culture but is it for the better. Bolton is one of the few towns in the Uk that participates in the NASS. And seems to be one of the fastiest deterioating towns in the UK.
We are not attracting the correct people to the town.

Are you content with the look of the town and the crumbling infurstructure while the council promotes NASS and inclusion for all ?

The appearance of the town is a disgrace the people have no pride in the town, litter everywhere boarded businesses no green areas !

Too many people on long term benefit, too many alcoholics,drug addicts criminals a violant town centre.

If anyone speaks their mind in the Uk you get badged as a racist. Doubt that I'm one just a concerned hard working individual.

My opinion is the focus of BMC seems to be in one direction this is an opinion,
. . . and what are YOU doing about it?
[quote][p][bold]grimtown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ablueroom[/bold] wrote: Your IQ is probably a lot higher than mine? I wonder why you felt the need to compete, does saying that make you feel better? Just reading the list of famous people with dyslexia at http://www.dyslexia. com/famous.htm - some rather impressive folk on there who no doubt, like yourself, have a far greater IQ than mine and also seem to have not let the condition get in their way. Anyway, lets judge a race and a religion on a grooming case shall we, it makes us white christians feel better about on our holocaustic history.[/p][/quote]Just seems that the towns focus and culture is being erroded. The Council is only interested in demolishing cultural heritage both infurstructure and social make up. It is very easy to ghange culture but is it for the better. Bolton is one of the few towns in the Uk that participates in the NASS. And seems to be one of the fastiest deterioating towns in the UK. We are not attracting the correct people to the town. Are you content with the look of the town and the crumbling infurstructure while the council promotes NASS and inclusion for all ? The appearance of the town is a disgrace the people have no pride in the town, litter everywhere boarded businesses no green areas ! Too many people on long term benefit, too many alcoholics,drug addicts criminals a violant town centre. If anyone speaks their mind in the Uk you get badged as a racist. Doubt that I'm one just a concerned hard working individual. My opinion is the focus of BMC seems to be in one direction this is an opinion,[/p][/quote]. . . and what are YOU doing about it? ablueroom
  • Score: -3

5:57pm Sat 9 Jun 12

grimtown says...

ablueroom wrote:
grimtown wrote:
ablueroom wrote:
Your IQ is probably a lot higher than mine? I wonder why you felt the need to compete, does saying that make you feel better? Just reading the list of famous people with dyslexia at http://www.dyslexia.



com/famous.htm - some rather impressive folk on there who no doubt, like yourself, have a far greater IQ than mine and also seem to have not let the condition get in their way. Anyway, lets judge a race and a religion on a grooming case shall we, it makes us white christians feel better about on our holocaustic history.
Just seems that the towns focus and culture is being erroded. The Council is only interested in demolishing cultural heritage both infurstructure and social make up. It is very easy to ghange culture but is it for the better. Bolton is one of the few towns in the Uk that participates in the NASS. And seems to be one of the fastiest deterioating towns in the UK.
We are not attracting the correct people to the town.

Are you content with the look of the town and the crumbling infurstructure while the council promotes NASS and inclusion for all ?

The appearance of the town is a disgrace the people have no pride in the town, litter everywhere boarded businesses no green areas !

Too many people on long term benefit, too many alcoholics,drug addicts criminals a violant town centre.

If anyone speaks their mind in the Uk you get badged as a racist. Doubt that I'm one just a concerned hard working individual.

My opinion is the focus of BMC seems to be in one direction this is an opinion,
. . . and what are YOU doing about it?
Campaign for my area email Councillors direct ask about the regeneration plan and time scales.

Asked whether Keith Davies is delivering a town centre fit for purpose.

Contact MPs why.

Are you happy with the town.
[quote][p][bold]ablueroom[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]grimtown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ablueroom[/bold] wrote: Your IQ is probably a lot higher than mine? I wonder why you felt the need to compete, does saying that make you feel better? Just reading the list of famous people with dyslexia at http://www.dyslexia. com/famous.htm - some rather impressive folk on there who no doubt, like yourself, have a far greater IQ than mine and also seem to have not let the condition get in their way. Anyway, lets judge a race and a religion on a grooming case shall we, it makes us white christians feel better about on our holocaustic history.[/p][/quote]Just seems that the towns focus and culture is being erroded. The Council is only interested in demolishing cultural heritage both infurstructure and social make up. It is very easy to ghange culture but is it for the better. Bolton is one of the few towns in the Uk that participates in the NASS. And seems to be one of the fastiest deterioating towns in the UK. We are not attracting the correct people to the town. Are you content with the look of the town and the crumbling infurstructure while the council promotes NASS and inclusion for all ? The appearance of the town is a disgrace the people have no pride in the town, litter everywhere boarded businesses no green areas ! Too many people on long term benefit, too many alcoholics,drug addicts criminals a violant town centre. If anyone speaks their mind in the Uk you get badged as a racist. Doubt that I'm one just a concerned hard working individual. My opinion is the focus of BMC seems to be in one direction this is an opinion,[/p][/quote]. . . and what are YOU doing about it?[/p][/quote]Campaign for my area email Councillors direct ask about the regeneration plan and time scales. Asked whether Keith Davies is delivering a town centre fit for purpose. Contact MPs why. Are you happy with the town. grimtown
  • Score: 2

6:00pm Sat 9 Jun 12

grimtown says...

grimtown wrote:
ablueroom wrote:
grimtown wrote:
ablueroom wrote:
Your IQ is probably a lot higher than mine? I wonder why you felt the need to compete, does saying that make you feel better? Just reading the list of famous people with dyslexia at http://www.dyslexia.




com/famous.htm - some rather impressive folk on there who no doubt, like yourself, have a far greater IQ than mine and also seem to have not let the condition get in their way. Anyway, lets judge a race and a religion on a grooming case shall we, it makes us white christians feel better about on our holocaustic history.
Just seems that the towns focus and culture is being erroded. The Council is only interested in demolishing cultural heritage both infurstructure and social make up. It is very easy to ghange culture but is it for the better. Bolton is one of the few towns in the Uk that participates in the NASS. And seems to be one of the fastiest deterioating towns in the UK.
We are not attracting the correct people to the town.

Are you content with the look of the town and the crumbling infurstructure while the council promotes NASS and inclusion for all ?

The appearance of the town is a disgrace the people have no pride in the town, litter everywhere boarded businesses no green areas !

Too many people on long term benefit, too many alcoholics,drug addicts criminals a violant town centre.

If anyone speaks their mind in the Uk you get badged as a racist. Doubt that I'm one just a concerned hard working individual.

My opinion is the focus of BMC seems to be in one direction this is an opinion,
. . . and what are YOU doing about it?
Campaign for my area email Councillors direct ask about the regeneration plan and time scales.

Asked whether Keith Davies is delivering a town centre fit for purpose.

Contact MPs why.

Are you happy with the town.
http://www.bolton.go
v.uk/website/Pages/T
ransparencyseniorsal
aries.aspx

Are these individuals value for money ???
[quote][p][bold]grimtown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ablueroom[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]grimtown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ablueroom[/bold] wrote: Your IQ is probably a lot higher than mine? I wonder why you felt the need to compete, does saying that make you feel better? Just reading the list of famous people with dyslexia at http://www.dyslexia. com/famous.htm - some rather impressive folk on there who no doubt, like yourself, have a far greater IQ than mine and also seem to have not let the condition get in their way. Anyway, lets judge a race and a religion on a grooming case shall we, it makes us white christians feel better about on our holocaustic history.[/p][/quote]Just seems that the towns focus and culture is being erroded. The Council is only interested in demolishing cultural heritage both infurstructure and social make up. It is very easy to ghange culture but is it for the better. Bolton is one of the few towns in the Uk that participates in the NASS. And seems to be one of the fastiest deterioating towns in the UK. We are not attracting the correct people to the town. Are you content with the look of the town and the crumbling infurstructure while the council promotes NASS and inclusion for all ? The appearance of the town is a disgrace the people have no pride in the town, litter everywhere boarded businesses no green areas ! Too many people on long term benefit, too many alcoholics,drug addicts criminals a violant town centre. If anyone speaks their mind in the Uk you get badged as a racist. Doubt that I'm one just a concerned hard working individual. My opinion is the focus of BMC seems to be in one direction this is an opinion,[/p][/quote]. . . and what are YOU doing about it?[/p][/quote]Campaign for my area email Councillors direct ask about the regeneration plan and time scales. Asked whether Keith Davies is delivering a town centre fit for purpose. Contact MPs why. Are you happy with the town.[/p][/quote]http://www.bolton.go v.uk/website/Pages/T ransparencyseniorsal aries.aspx Are these individuals value for money ??? grimtown
  • Score: 0

6:01pm Sat 9 Jun 12

Kenipetwoman says...

Bolton has been and always will be a s**t hole full of clam pits
Bolton has been and always will be a s**t hole full of clam pits Kenipetwoman
  • Score: -1

6:05pm Sat 9 Jun 12

grimtown says...

grimtown wrote:
grimtown wrote:
ablueroom wrote:
grimtown wrote:
ablueroom wrote:
Your IQ is probably a lot higher than mine? I wonder why you felt the need to compete, does saying that make you feel better? Just reading the list of famous people with dyslexia at http://www.dyslexia.





com/famous.htm - some rather impressive folk on there who no doubt, like yourself, have a far greater IQ than mine and also seem to have not let the condition get in their way. Anyway, lets judge a race and a religion on a grooming case shall we, it makes us white christians feel better about on our holocaustic history.
Just seems that the towns focus and culture is being erroded. The Council is only interested in demolishing cultural heritage both infurstructure and social make up. It is very easy to ghange culture but is it for the better. Bolton is one of the few towns in the Uk that participates in the NASS. And seems to be one of the fastiest deterioating towns in the UK.
We are not attracting the correct people to the town.

Are you content with the look of the town and the crumbling infurstructure while the council promotes NASS and inclusion for all ?

The appearance of the town is a disgrace the people have no pride in the town, litter everywhere boarded businesses no green areas !

Too many people on long term benefit, too many alcoholics,drug addicts criminals a violant town centre.

If anyone speaks their mind in the Uk you get badged as a racist. Doubt that I'm one just a concerned hard working individual.

My opinion is the focus of BMC seems to be in one direction this is an opinion,
. . . and what are YOU doing about it?
Campaign for my area email Councillors direct ask about the regeneration plan and time scales.

Asked whether Keith Davies is delivering a town centre fit for purpose.

Contact MPs why.

Are you happy with the town.
http://www.bolton.go

v.uk/website/Pages/T

ransparencyseniorsal

aries.aspx

Are these individuals value for money ???
Bolton Council Director Development and Regeneration PLAN 1
£130,000 £134,999
Bolton Council Chief Planning Officer PLAN 1 £75,
000 £79,999
Bolton Council Assistant Director (Policy and Performance) * Shared post with Environmental Services PLAN 0.5 £
75,000 £79,999
[quote][p][bold]grimtown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]grimtown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ablueroom[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]grimtown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ablueroom[/bold] wrote: Your IQ is probably a lot higher than mine? I wonder why you felt the need to compete, does saying that make you feel better? Just reading the list of famous people with dyslexia at http://www.dyslexia. com/famous.htm - some rather impressive folk on there who no doubt, like yourself, have a far greater IQ than mine and also seem to have not let the condition get in their way. Anyway, lets judge a race and a religion on a grooming case shall we, it makes us white christians feel better about on our holocaustic history.[/p][/quote]Just seems that the towns focus and culture is being erroded. The Council is only interested in demolishing cultural heritage both infurstructure and social make up. It is very easy to ghange culture but is it for the better. Bolton is one of the few towns in the Uk that participates in the NASS. And seems to be one of the fastiest deterioating towns in the UK. We are not attracting the correct people to the town. Are you content with the look of the town and the crumbling infurstructure while the council promotes NASS and inclusion for all ? The appearance of the town is a disgrace the people have no pride in the town, litter everywhere boarded businesses no green areas ! Too many people on long term benefit, too many alcoholics,drug addicts criminals a violant town centre. If anyone speaks their mind in the Uk you get badged as a racist. Doubt that I'm one just a concerned hard working individual. My opinion is the focus of BMC seems to be in one direction this is an opinion,[/p][/quote]. . . and what are YOU doing about it?[/p][/quote]Campaign for my area email Councillors direct ask about the regeneration plan and time scales. Asked whether Keith Davies is delivering a town centre fit for purpose. Contact MPs why. Are you happy with the town.[/p][/quote]http://www.bolton.go v.uk/website/Pages/T ransparencyseniorsal aries.aspx Are these individuals value for money ???[/p][/quote]Bolton Council Director Development and Regeneration PLAN 1 £130,000 £134,999 Bolton Council Chief Planning Officer PLAN 1 £75, 000 £79,999 Bolton Council Assistant Director (Policy and Performance) * Shared post with Environmental Services PLAN 0.5 £ 75,000 £79,999 grimtown
  • Score: 2

6:14pm Sat 9 Jun 12

ablueroom says...

No, I agree with you . . . the town is in a dire state, has been for years. It's not a new problem. Unlike you though, it doesn't bother me - rightly or wrongly I couldn't care less about it. I see no point in it, nearly all my shopping is out-of-town or web-based so i very rarely need to visit the centre. Much like Smithills restaurant, it's a relic of the past and as far as I'm concerned, it would be better bull-dozed. I was involved in the feasibility of the new Tesco and associated development of the quarter behind the Victoria Halls a few years ago, but saw no point in it and got out on the cusp of the crunch. Councils want people to spend time in their town centres, relax, browse, eat - yet charge extortionate fees for to park. Again, like SCH, they too should be bull-dozed to make way for progress.
No, I agree with you . . . the town is in a dire state, has been for years. It's not a new problem. Unlike you though, it doesn't bother me - rightly or wrongly I couldn't care less about it. I see no point in it, nearly all my shopping is out-of-town or web-based so i very rarely need to visit the centre. Much like Smithills restaurant, it's a relic of the past and as far as I'm concerned, it would be better bull-dozed. I was involved in the feasibility of the new Tesco and associated development of the quarter behind the Victoria Halls a few years ago, but saw no point in it and got out on the cusp of the crunch. Councils want people to spend time in their town centres, relax, browse, eat - yet charge extortionate fees for to park. Again, like SCH, they too should be bull-dozed to make way for progress. ablueroom
  • Score: -6

6:20pm Sat 9 Jun 12

gilly666 says...

i can't comment on all the food there as i always ave the same black pudding,steak and cheese and crackers always good glad said i going for 1 for my birthday
i can't comment on all the food there as i always ave the same black pudding,steak and cheese and crackers always good glad said i going for 1 for my birthday gilly666
  • Score: 1

6:25pm Sat 9 Jun 12

ablueroom says...

Kenipetwoman wrote:
Why does everybody with money have to ruin things? Why make structural changes, for what purpose? If it ain't broke........ More money than sense, Bolton council should put a stop to these stupid requests!
6:01pm Sat 9 Jun 12
Kenipetwoman says...

Bolton has been and always will be a s**t hole full of clam pits


I guess we could employ this idiot for a far lower salary - we'd just have to put up with the small matter of contradiction.
[quote][p][bold]Kenipetwoman[/bold] wrote: Why does everybody with money have to ruin things? Why make structural changes, for what purpose? If it ain't broke........ More money than sense, Bolton council should put a stop to these stupid requests![/p][/quote]6:01pm Sat 9 Jun 12 Kenipetwoman says... Bolton has been and always will be a s**t hole full of clam pits I guess we could employ this idiot for a far lower salary - we'd just have to put up with the small matter of contradiction. ablueroom
  • Score: -4

6:33pm Sat 9 Jun 12

Kenipetwoman says...

I would sort it out! There's nothing wrong with sch its the town centre that needs the money spending on it. Don't get me started on car parking charges, £1.40 per hour but doesn't give change so it cost me £2....daylight robbery, the rule should be, if you work and pay your council tax then town centre parking should be free!
I would sort it out! There's nothing wrong with sch its the town centre that needs the money spending on it. Don't get me started on car parking charges, £1.40 per hour but doesn't give change so it cost me £2....daylight robbery, the rule should be, if you work and pay your council tax then town centre parking should be free! Kenipetwoman
  • Score: 6

6:46pm Sat 9 Jun 12

grimtown says...

ablueroom wrote:
No, I agree with you . . . the town is in a dire state, has been for years. It's not a new problem. Unlike you though, it doesn't bother me - rightly or wrongly I couldn't care less about it. I see no point in it, nearly all my shopping is out-of-town or web-based so i very rarely need to visit the centre. Much like Smithills restaurant, it's a relic of the past and as far as I'm concerned, it would be better bull-dozed. I was involved in the feasibility of the new Tesco and associated development of the quarter behind the Victoria Halls a few years ago, but saw no point in it and got out on the cusp of the crunch. Councils want people to spend time in their town centres, relax, browse, eat - yet charge extortionate fees for to park. Again, like SCH, they too should be bull-dozed to make way for progress.
Now look at the salaries of the regeneration team on BMC, asked about regeneration timescales/they don't have any! Then there's no plan?

We all spend money in the town errrh Council Tax. Thats £2000 plus a year for me and there is nothing there for my family.

Hope the grammer is OK..................
....
[quote][p][bold]ablueroom[/bold] wrote: No, I agree with you . . . the town is in a dire state, has been for years. It's not a new problem. Unlike you though, it doesn't bother me - rightly or wrongly I couldn't care less about it. I see no point in it, nearly all my shopping is out-of-town or web-based so i very rarely need to visit the centre. Much like Smithills restaurant, it's a relic of the past and as far as I'm concerned, it would be better bull-dozed. I was involved in the feasibility of the new Tesco and associated development of the quarter behind the Victoria Halls a few years ago, but saw no point in it and got out on the cusp of the crunch. Councils want people to spend time in their town centres, relax, browse, eat - yet charge extortionate fees for to park. Again, like SCH, they too should be bull-dozed to make way for progress.[/p][/quote]Now look at the salaries of the regeneration team on BMC, asked about regeneration timescales/they don't have any! Then there's no plan? We all spend money in the town errrh Council Tax. Thats £2000 plus a year for me and there is nothing there for my family. Hope the grammer is OK.................. .... grimtown
  • Score: 1

7:00pm Sat 9 Jun 12

LeeJ2012 says...

Some great comments on here regarding SCH (some not so good also might I add!) think the clear message coming through is that the place became poorly managed across all areas, its clear the place has a market based upon the wonderful experiences people have had from yesteryear. One thing remains constant throughout, the location is fabulous, parking on site, views are great. Is there still a market for a restaurant here? MOST DEFINATELY in my opinion - why not get a Toby Carvery or one of the other chains involved that are increasing year on year the amount of outlets that they hold - I suggest that these chains must be doing something right given the current climate!
Some great comments on here regarding SCH (some not so good also might I add!) think the clear message coming through is that the place became poorly managed across all areas, its clear the place has a market based upon the wonderful experiences people have had from yesteryear. One thing remains constant throughout, the location is fabulous, parking on site, views are great. Is there still a market for a restaurant here? MOST DEFINATELY in my opinion - why not get a Toby Carvery or one of the other chains involved that are increasing year on year the amount of outlets that they hold - I suggest that these chains must be doing something right given the current climate! LeeJ2012
  • Score: 6

7:58pm Sat 9 Jun 12

suffrinmick says...

Wonder if anything will happen with the derelict building, a few hundred yards further up the dean, when sch has closed? I heard that the owner wanted to open the run-down building as a restaurant a good few years ago, but because there was some councillor involvement in sch then the competition could never get planning permission.
Wonder if anything will happen with the derelict building, a few hundred yards further up the dean, when sch has closed? I heard that the owner wanted to open the run-down building as a restaurant a good few years ago, but because there was some councillor involvement in sch then the competition could never get planning permission. suffrinmick
  • Score: 1

10:45pm Sat 9 Jun 12

peace and love 123 says...

Kenipetwoman wrote:
There are more mosques and training schools in Bolton than people! Why was the old nunnery in Deane closed n now its a terrorist I mean Islamic training school
Why i even bother, you stupid brainless little person.
[quote][p][bold]Kenipetwoman[/bold] wrote: There are more mosques and training schools in Bolton than people! Why was the old nunnery in Deane closed n now its a terrorist I mean Islamic training school[/p][/quote]Why i even bother, you stupid brainless little person. peace and love 123
  • Score: -1

11:37pm Sat 9 Jun 12

davroduk1 says...

Browny91 wrote:
I worked there for a few months in 2010, my job description changed several times during that time and they still owe me wages to this day! The manager (Mark Bulls) is extremely rude and arrogant and constantly talks down to his employee's. He used to employ school leavers on a trial basis - usually for a month, then get rid of them without paying their wages. SLAVE LABOUR.

As for the food, I was shocked to see how food was handled. Plates of roast beef being left next to the sink where it was splashed with dirty dish water.. Food dropped on the floor.. Food re heated from the previous day.. THEN ALL SERVED TO THE PUBLIC!

Never been so pleases to hear about a place closing!
OMG I feel sick.
[quote][p][bold]Browny91[/bold] wrote: I worked there for a few months in 2010, my job description changed several times during that time and they still owe me wages to this day! The manager (Mark Bulls) is extremely rude and arrogant and constantly talks down to his employee's. He used to employ school leavers on a trial basis - usually for a month, then get rid of them without paying their wages. SLAVE LABOUR. As for the food, I was shocked to see how food was handled. Plates of roast beef being left next to the sink where it was splashed with dirty dish water.. Food dropped on the floor.. Food re heated from the previous day.. THEN ALL SERVED TO THE PUBLIC! Never been so pleases to hear about a place closing![/p][/quote]OMG I feel sick. davroduk1
  • Score: 1

9:10am Sun 10 Jun 12

grimtown says...

Think this is business has been running down while buyers where hovering.

http://www.northwest
caterer.co.uk/2011/0
2/04/eateries-warned
/


A spokesperson for Smithills said: “We are disappointed we got a one but we have been given a list of things to do, which we have already started.
Score 0 to 5

5 being the most hygienic
Think this is business has been running down while buyers where hovering. http://www.northwest caterer.co.uk/2011/0 2/04/eateries-warned / A spokesperson for Smithills said: “We are disappointed we got a one but we have been given a list of things to do, which we have already started. Score 0 to 5 5 being the most hygienic grimtown
  • Score: 0

10:21am Sun 10 Jun 12

Kenipetwoman says...

Thought there would have been a civil war by now.......
Thought there would have been a civil war by now....... Kenipetwoman
  • Score: 0

11:56am Sun 10 Jun 12

Lancashire always says...

I dont know what all the fuss is about `you could line a leaky hole in your shoe for days with the pastry from the cheese and onion pie !
A Toby carvery mmm... now your talking with proper chefs in that location would make a killing.In a good way of course !!
I dont know what all the fuss is about `you could line a leaky hole in your shoe for days with the pastry from the cheese and onion pie ! A Toby carvery mmm... now your talking with proper chefs in that location would make a killing.In a good way of course !! Lancashire always
  • Score: 3

11:59am Sun 10 Jun 12

Lancashire always says...

I caught a glimpse of one chef through the kitchen doors he looked like an axe murderer `his whites were filthy !!!
I caught a glimpse of one chef through the kitchen doors he looked like an axe murderer `his whites were filthy !!! Lancashire always
  • Score: 1

4:27pm Mon 11 Jun 12

berushka says...

Seems to me that the restaurant needed to be closed down, but the actual location is of great interest to many, I played around there all the time as a youth, so the building should be preserved. It has a lot of potential and should be taken over by someone who cares about good food, good service and and consideration for the surroundings. If I was the new owner, no councillor would have his sticky, dirty fingers in my pies.
Seems to me that the restaurant needed to be closed down, but the actual location is of great interest to many, I played around there all the time as a youth, so the building should be preserved. It has a lot of potential and should be taken over by someone who cares about good food, good service and and consideration for the surroundings. If I was the new owner, no councillor would have his sticky, dirty fingers in my pies. berushka
  • Score: 2

10:40pm Mon 11 Jun 12

Brianknowles1 says...

I want to see Smithills coaching house continue trading and go back to the old menue which everybody from afar loved, in those days you had to book to get a table. I think the people of Bolton and further should vote with there feet and arrange a meeting with the owners to save this long standing restaurant loved by many I for one would be there, I would hope the Bolton Evening News would be part of this
I want to see Smithills coaching house continue trading and go back to the old menue which everybody from afar loved, in those days you had to book to get a table. I think the people of Bolton and further should vote with there feet and arrange a meeting with the owners to save this long standing restaurant loved by many I for one would be there, I would hope the Bolton Evening News would be part of this Brianknowles1
  • Score: 3

7:34am Tue 12 Jun 12

fredwalton says...

Brianknowles1 wrote:
I want to see Smithills coaching house continue trading and go back to the old menue which everybody from afar loved, in those days you had to book to get a table. I think the people of Bolton and further should vote with there feet and arrange a meeting with the owners to save this long standing restaurant loved by many I for one would be there, I would hope the Bolton Evening News would be part of this
Smithills was great in the 60s that was it's era.
I am surprised to see that it lasted this long, it has no chance of competing with the many 2 meals for £10.00 pubs mostly serving excellent food.
Whatever the new owners do with it is their business. Maybe they will do something better, who knows? One thing is for certain, no one with any business sense would consider opening a restaurant in the resent climate.
Best wishes to all the staff I hope you all find new employment soon
[quote][p][bold]Brianknowles1[/bold] wrote: I want to see Smithills coaching house continue trading and go back to the old menue which everybody from afar loved, in those days you had to book to get a table. I think the people of Bolton and further should vote with there feet and arrange a meeting with the owners to save this long standing restaurant loved by many I for one would be there, I would hope the Bolton Evening News would be part of this[/p][/quote]Smithills was great in the 60s that was it's era. I am surprised to see that it lasted this long, it has no chance of competing with the many 2 meals for £10.00 pubs mostly serving excellent food. Whatever the new owners do with it is their business. Maybe they will do something better, who knows? One thing is for certain, no one with any business sense would consider opening a restaurant in the resent climate. Best wishes to all the staff I hope you all find new employment soon fredwalton
  • Score: 2

10:30am Tue 12 Jun 12

Clint H says...

Bolton is a terrible town, just take a look at the town centre. Those people of the town with anything about them go to Middlebrook retail park... its a disgrace but its been coming...
Bolton is a terrible town, just take a look at the town centre. Those people of the town with anything about them go to Middlebrook retail park... its a disgrace but its been coming... Clint H
  • Score: 2

12:50pm Tue 12 Jun 12

Dannielle123 says...

Browny91 wrote:
I worked there for a few months in 2010, my job description changed several times during that time and they still owe me wages to this day! The manager (Mark Bulls) is extremely rude and arrogant and constantly talks down to his employee's. He used to employ school leavers on a trial basis - usually for a month, then get rid of them without paying their wages. SLAVE LABOUR.

As for the food, I was shocked to see how food was handled. Plates of roast beef being left next to the sink where it was splashed with dirty dish water.. Food dropped on the floor.. Food re heated from the previous day.. THEN ALL SERVED TO THE PUBLIC!

Never been so pleases to hear about a place closing!
Ha i worked there once i finished school for a month and then the manager lost my time sheet so didnt know my next shift!. never heard back from him and never got paid. Its the worst place ive worked. The tables weren't cleaned. On buzzer duty a member of staff actually licked a knife clean and put it back for the next customers. The food was eaten off plates whilst being served. I dropped a sausage on my first day and was told to just put it back on the plate it was just vile. Plus all the elder staff used to take my tips and not allow me to collect them as i was only on trial so wasn't allowed them! Rude, dirty and bloody vile. Thank god its shutting before someone actually got ill eating there!!
[quote][p][bold]Browny91[/bold] wrote: I worked there for a few months in 2010, my job description changed several times during that time and they still owe me wages to this day! The manager (Mark Bulls) is extremely rude and arrogant and constantly talks down to his employee's. He used to employ school leavers on a trial basis - usually for a month, then get rid of them without paying their wages. SLAVE LABOUR. As for the food, I was shocked to see how food was handled. Plates of roast beef being left next to the sink where it was splashed with dirty dish water.. Food dropped on the floor.. Food re heated from the previous day.. THEN ALL SERVED TO THE PUBLIC! Never been so pleases to hear about a place closing![/p][/quote]Ha i worked there once i finished school for a month and then the manager lost my time sheet so didnt know my next shift!. never heard back from him and never got paid. Its the worst place ive worked. The tables weren't cleaned. On buzzer duty a member of staff actually licked a knife clean and put it back for the next customers. The food was eaten off plates whilst being served. I dropped a sausage on my first day and was told to just put it back on the plate it was just vile. Plus all the elder staff used to take my tips and not allow me to collect them as i was only on trial so wasn't allowed them! Rude, dirty and bloody vile. Thank god its shutting before someone actually got ill eating there!! Dannielle123
  • Score: 2

2:43pm Tue 12 Jun 12

sickofidiots says...

After reading the article I didn't have much of an opinion, other than "that's a shame, had some good do's there, food was always cr*p though" Then I had the misfortune of reading some of the comments, and registered with BN because of them. My username is aimed at hoboh2o, ablueroom, wonderer74, shireen, and OBVIOUSLY Kenipetwoman!

Kenipetwoman - To your "if it aint broke......" comment, it was broke, read the article! I won't even waste my breath on your other comments!

hoboh20 - mcauley wrote that it was a has been, you write WRONG and then say it was nice 20 years ago! What is the definition of has been?

Shireen - "This is what happens when the local team get's relegated" hahahahahaha, please tell me your joking? The continual decline of a restaurant over the last 10 years (read the above comments) resulting in the purchase of the building by investors and the announcement that the building will be used for something other than a restaurant is down to the local football team being relegated 4weeks ago!....
Ok then!

Ablueroom - you just seem like you want to fight everyone, calm down! You seem to be wrong most of the time anyway! You even claim your alleged home team was largely Nordic, of the 41 players associated with the BWFC team in 2011/2012, 2 were Nordic! You pick on grimtown's english but you obviously need to work on your maths!

Finally Wonderer74 your speechless and SCH was the one thing in your world that was sacred??? If that's how you really feel, your not an idiot, I just feel sad for you....
After reading the article I didn't have much of an opinion, other than "that's a shame, had some good do's there, food was always cr*p though" Then I had the misfortune of reading some of the comments, and registered with BN because of them. My username is aimed at hoboh2o, ablueroom, wonderer74, shireen, and OBVIOUSLY Kenipetwoman! Kenipetwoman - To your "if it aint broke......" comment, it was broke, read the article! I won't even waste my breath on your other comments! hoboh20 - mcauley wrote that it was a has been, you write WRONG and then say it was nice 20 years ago! What is the definition of has been? Shireen - "This is what happens when the local team get's relegated" hahahahahaha, please tell me your joking? The continual decline of a restaurant over the last 10 years (read the above comments) resulting in the purchase of the building by investors and the announcement that the building will be used for something other than a restaurant is down to the local football team being relegated 4weeks ago!.... Ok then! Ablueroom - you just seem like you want to fight everyone, calm down! You seem to be wrong most of the time anyway! You even claim your alleged home team was largely Nordic, of the 41 players associated with the BWFC team in 2011/2012, 2 were Nordic! You pick on grimtown's english but you obviously need to work on your maths! Finally Wonderer74 your speechless and SCH was the one thing in your world that was sacred??? If that's how you really feel, your not an idiot, I just feel sad for you.... sickofidiots
  • Score: 2

4:05pm Tue 12 Jun 12

Andy Rigby says...

Oh how sad, I have lived in Australia for many years now and have of course no idea of "The Coaching House's" recent fall from grace. I remember it as a wonderful almost fairytale like environment, visiting there for special family treats at Christmas and for Birthdays, the only room I can remember was Pickwicks Room but I am sure there were a few others, I used to love the old horse drawn carriages and carts that were littered about outside. It truly is a shame that this magic is seemingly gone forever, however nobody can steal away my glorious memories!!
Oh how sad, I have lived in Australia for many years now and have of course no idea of "The Coaching House's" recent fall from grace. I remember it as a wonderful almost fairytale like environment, visiting there for special family treats at Christmas and for Birthdays, the only room I can remember was Pickwicks Room but I am sure there were a few others, I used to love the old horse drawn carriages and carts that were littered about outside. It truly is a shame that this magic is seemingly gone forever, however nobody can steal away my glorious memories!! Andy Rigby
  • Score: 3

12:49am Wed 13 Jun 12

hoboh2o says...

sickofidiots wrote:
After reading the article I didn't have much of an opinion, other than "that's a shame, had some good do's there, food was always cr*p though" Then I had the misfortune of reading some of the comments, and registered with BN because of them. My username is aimed at hoboh2o, ablueroom, wonderer74, shireen, and OBVIOUSLY Kenipetwoman!

Kenipetwoman - To your "if it aint broke......" comment, it was broke, read the article! I won't even waste my breath on your other comments!

hoboh20 - mcauley wrote that it was a has been, you write WRONG and then say it was nice 20 years ago! What is the definition of has been?

Shireen - "This is what happens when the local team get's relegated" hahahahahaha, please tell me your joking? The continual decline of a restaurant over the last 10 years (read the above comments) resulting in the purchase of the building by investors and the announcement that the building will be used for something other than a restaurant is down to the local football team being relegated 4weeks ago!....
Ok then!

Ablueroom - you just seem like you want to fight everyone, calm down! You seem to be wrong most of the time anyway! You even claim your alleged home team was largely Nordic, of the 41 players associated with the BWFC team in 2011/2012, 2 were Nordic! You pick on grimtown's english but you obviously need to work on your maths!

Finally Wonderer74 your speechless and SCH was the one thing in your world that was sacred??? If that's how you really feel, your not an idiot, I just feel sad for you....
Sod off William :-)
[quote][p][bold]sickofidiots[/bold] wrote: After reading the article I didn't have much of an opinion, other than "that's a shame, had some good do's there, food was always cr*p though" Then I had the misfortune of reading some of the comments, and registered with BN because of them. My username is aimed at hoboh2o, ablueroom, wonderer74, shireen, and OBVIOUSLY Kenipetwoman! Kenipetwoman - To your "if it aint broke......" comment, it was broke, read the article! I won't even waste my breath on your other comments! hoboh20 - mcauley wrote that it was a has been, you write WRONG and then say it was nice 20 years ago! What is the definition of has been? Shireen - "This is what happens when the local team get's relegated" hahahahahaha, please tell me your joking? The continual decline of a restaurant over the last 10 years (read the above comments) resulting in the purchase of the building by investors and the announcement that the building will be used for something other than a restaurant is down to the local football team being relegated 4weeks ago!.... Ok then! Ablueroom - you just seem like you want to fight everyone, calm down! You seem to be wrong most of the time anyway! You even claim your alleged home team was largely Nordic, of the 41 players associated with the BWFC team in 2011/2012, 2 were Nordic! You pick on grimtown's english but you obviously need to work on your maths! Finally Wonderer74 your speechless and SCH was the one thing in your world that was sacred??? If that's how you really feel, your not an idiot, I just feel sad for you....[/p][/quote]Sod off William :-) hoboh2o
  • Score: 3

11:09am Wed 13 Jun 12

bolton gal says...

Smithills coaching house to shut, that is something we can all live with but it is what it will become that is the worry. I have lived on the croft, went to the school and worked at the coaching house and walked in the lovely surrounding area all my life. It is a complete and utter heartbreak that this is happening. Very rarely are these things for the better!. I am not an old **** who can't take change, but I would like to see something good come out of it and its doubtful, our council do tend to go with the biggest wad! on the table and then bend the rules to suit. We have all seen it the "market Hall" Crompton waste of time place, the jewel in the crown sh*t gates. As a business owner myself who is being forced out of my own business by the council to make room for yet another bus station! like we need another! I am desparate to stop this, does anyone have any ideas apart from running for council which I would do if I had the brains! sadly never going to happen but love the idea.
Smithills coaching house to shut, that is something we can all live with but it is what it will become that is the worry. I have lived on the croft, went to the school and worked at the coaching house and walked in the lovely surrounding area all my life. It is a complete and utter heartbreak that this is happening. Very rarely are these things for the better!. I am not an old **** who can't take change, but I would like to see something good come out of it and its doubtful, our council do tend to go with the biggest wad! on the table and then bend the rules to suit. We have all seen it the "market Hall" Crompton waste of time place, the jewel in the crown sh*t gates. As a business owner myself who is being forced out of my own business by the council to make room for yet another bus station! like we need another! I am desparate to stop this, does anyone have any ideas apart from running for council which I would do if I had the brains! sadly never going to happen but love the idea. bolton gal
  • Score: 0

1:10pm Wed 13 Jun 12

wonderer74 says...

I also live in Australia now (Adelaide) but I have been visiting Britain every year and I can assure you that contrary to what a lot of the posts above seem to infer, the magical experience Smithills was 30 years ago is exactly what it was when I last visited which was 2011.

In all these years it has not changed in my opinion and the food has ALWAYS been excellent (including recently).

I always thought that in this ever-changing world where just about everything in my life has changed beyond recognition, that Smithills would be one place I could always count on to stay just as it always has been.

It seems now even Smithills will no longer be there for me to enjoy when I visit home.

It's too sad to put into words.
I also live in Australia now (Adelaide) but I have been visiting Britain every year and I can assure you that contrary to what a lot of the posts above seem to infer, the magical experience Smithills was 30 years ago is exactly what it was when I last visited which was 2011. In all these years it has not changed in my opinion and the food has ALWAYS been excellent (including recently). I always thought that in this ever-changing world where just about everything in my life has changed beyond recognition, that Smithills would be one place I could always count on to stay just as it always has been. It seems now even Smithills will no longer be there for me to enjoy when I visit home. It's too sad to put into words. wonderer74
  • Score: 2

1:15pm Wed 13 Jun 12

wonderer74 says...

Brianknowles1 wrote:
I want to see Smithills coaching house continue trading and go back to the old menue which everybody from afar loved, in those days you had to book to get a table. I think the people of Bolton and further should vote with there feet and arrange a meeting with the owners to save this long standing restaurant loved by many I for one would be there, I would hope the Bolton Evening News would be part of this
Regrettably I cannot afford to come over from Australia to be there at the meeting. If I was in Britain or anywhere in Europe, or if I had the spare cash to fly over from Australia I certainly would be there.

I do sincerely hope you can organise such a meeting and I'd love to be kept informed as to how it goes.
[quote][p][bold]Brianknowles1[/bold] wrote: I want to see Smithills coaching house continue trading and go back to the old menue which everybody from afar loved, in those days you had to book to get a table. I think the people of Bolton and further should vote with there feet and arrange a meeting with the owners to save this long standing restaurant loved by many I for one would be there, I would hope the Bolton Evening News would be part of this[/p][/quote]Regrettably I cannot afford to come over from Australia to be there at the meeting. If I was in Britain or anywhere in Europe, or if I had the spare cash to fly over from Australia I certainly would be there. I do sincerely hope you can organise such a meeting and I'd love to be kept informed as to how it goes. wonderer74
  • Score: 0

1:31pm Wed 13 Jun 12

wonderer74 says...

I have started a facebook group for those who love Smithills and want to protest against its closure.

If enough of us join, we may just be able to make some sort of difference and perhaps the new owner may even change their plans (this has happened many times thanks to the power of facebook, so if you love Smithills, please join the group called "Keep Smithills Coaching House Open".

https://www.facebook
.com/groups/38156878
8557406/
I have started a facebook group for those who love Smithills and want to protest against its closure. If enough of us join, we may just be able to make some sort of difference and perhaps the new owner may even change their plans (this has happened many times thanks to the power of facebook, so if you love Smithills, please join the group called "Keep Smithills Coaching House Open". https://www.facebook .com/groups/38156878 8557406/ wonderer74
  • Score: 2

3:33pm Wed 13 Jun 12

ke1979 says...

I worked a the Coaching House for while in the late 90s-early 2000s and thoroughly enjoyed working there. I met some good friends there (not to mention the wife) and the atmosphere amongst the staff was good. This was largely due to the fact that the management treated the staff appalingly so you had to stick together.

Even back then the place was hopelessly out of date. As someone mentioned above, they simply can't compete with the likes of the Beehive or the Watermillock or any of the chain places that have opened up. SCH charge more than these places for food that isn't as good quality. Its lived off its reputation for a long time. The fact is that when you were taken there as a kid it was a treat and this seems to stick in people's memories. The problem is that back in the day it simply didn't have the competition. My kids would much rather go to Frankie and Bennys. And who can blame them.

Overall I think its a shame its going but i doubt it'll be missed by anyone who rates value for money and good food. I'll be going back before it closes to say goodbye. But only for a drink.
I worked a the Coaching House for while in the late 90s-early 2000s and thoroughly enjoyed working there. I met some good friends there (not to mention the wife) and the atmosphere amongst the staff was good. This was largely due to the fact that the management treated the staff appalingly so you had to stick together. Even back then the place was hopelessly out of date. As someone mentioned above, they simply can't compete with the likes of the Beehive or the Watermillock or any of the chain places that have opened up. SCH charge more than these places for food that isn't as good quality. Its lived off its reputation for a long time. The fact is that when you were taken there as a kid it was a treat and this seems to stick in people's memories. The problem is that back in the day it simply didn't have the competition. My kids would much rather go to Frankie and Bennys. And who can blame them. Overall I think its a shame its going but i doubt it'll be missed by anyone who rates value for money and good food. I'll be going back before it closes to say goodbye. But only for a drink. ke1979
  • Score: -1

8:07pm Thu 14 Jun 12

Kenipetwoman says...

You're all idiots
You're all idiots Kenipetwoman
  • Score: -1

10:23am Fri 15 Jun 12

ke1979 says...

Kenipetwoman wrote:
You're all idiots
Insightful.
[quote][p][bold]Kenipetwoman[/bold] wrote: You're all idiots[/p][/quote]Insightful. ke1979
  • Score: 1

7:31pm Fri 15 Jun 12

P_Polly says...

been a few times , buffets were good but the meals I tried over the years always I thought poor value. Lovely location though.
been a few times , buffets were good but the meals I tried over the years always I thought poor value. Lovely location though. P_Polly
  • Score: 1

1:45am Sun 17 Jun 12

Reality50 says...

Very sad news and have good memories of visiting there although it was 20 plus years ago.Bolton in my opinion has never been in a poorer state,the loss of this restaurant leaves Bolton with a tiny number left of decent eateries within it yet a shedload of junk food takeaways.It seems to me only the Asians and Polish have any money in the town and with the banks refusing to lend it means local people with ambitions are stifled at source.People may joke about it being turned into an Islamic centre but I personally wouldn't be surprised as the Muslim population moves further north up Halliwell Road as it has gradually the past ten years.You cannot now find an English chip shop on the whole of Halliwell Road now btw but I digress.We as a town are on our knees but what do you expect when the masses of the population keep voting Labour?
Very sad news and have good memories of visiting there although it was 20 plus years ago.Bolton in my opinion has never been in a poorer state,the loss of this restaurant leaves Bolton with a tiny number left of decent eateries within it yet a shedload of junk food takeaways.It seems to me only the Asians and Polish have any money in the town and with the banks refusing to lend it means local people with ambitions are stifled at source.People may joke about it being turned into an Islamic centre but I personally wouldn't be surprised as the Muslim population moves further north up Halliwell Road as it has gradually the past ten years.You cannot now find an English chip shop on the whole of Halliwell Road now btw but I digress.We as a town are on our knees but what do you expect when the masses of the population keep voting Labour? Reality50
  • Score: 2

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