Archaeological find as work starts on new Bolton transport interchange

The Bolton News: The remains of walls dating back to before the industrial revolution have been uncovered at the site of the transport interchange The remains of walls dating back to before the industrial revolution have been uncovered at the site of the transport interchange

ARCHAEOLOGISTS digging at the site of the new Bolton transport interchange have uncovered telling evidence of the town’s industrial part.

A team coordinated by the Transport for Greater Manchester (TfGM) discovered a number of remains of the early formation of Bolton’s buildings, including possible 17th century material.

It follows a three-week visit by the experts, who were looking for 18th and 19th century houses and mills that might have survived the later 20th century developments.

The Bradshawgate Mill, where cotton manufacturing took place, and the Pillingwell Foundry, working with iron, used to be located on the site hundreds of years ago.

The industrial remains found are thought to be foundations and footings from the old buildings, while possible back-to-back house foundations have also been located.

Ian Trumble, chairman of the Bolton Archaeological Society who works at Bolton Museum, said the news was very exciting.

He said: “The earliest map we have got is for 1847 – so 17th century material is a lot earlier, and we don’t have a lot of knowledge about what Bolton looked like before then.

“The house foundatons are quite important as well. There are very few places in Britain where these back-to-back houses, equivalent to slum housing, have survived.

“Mill owners would often build these houses for their employers so they could watch them from the mill, and get to work on time.

“This discovery will help us find out how Bolton coped with the changing industry and the massive increase in population.

“Looking at a map or reading what someone wrote is from that time is one thing, but actually being able to see and find something today is very exciting.”

The material will now be examined in more detail, a report will be produced and any finds or artefacts will be donated to Bolton Museums and Archives Service.

Cllr Andrew Fender, chair of TfGM, said it was very important for any development to make sure the historical past is recorded.

He said: “It is vital that projects such as Bolton Interchange take into account the wider social, cultural, economic and environmental benefits of heritage conservation, which is why TfGM had archaeological evaluation excavations completed prior to demolition work.”

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7:27pm Mon 9 Dec 13

paulrich says...

I've got an 1824 map of Bolton which I bought from the Halliwell Family History group.
I've got an 1824 map of Bolton which I bought from the Halliwell Family History group. paulrich

8:02pm Mon 9 Dec 13

George X says...

paulrich wrote:
I've got an 1824 map of Bolton which I bought from the Halliwell Family History group.
Sounds very interesting, maybe you could copy it somehow and put it on facebook or something similar ?
[quote][p][bold]paulrich[/bold] wrote: I've got an 1824 map of Bolton which I bought from the Halliwell Family History group.[/p][/quote]Sounds very interesting, maybe you could copy it somehow and put it on facebook or something similar ? George X

8:03pm Mon 9 Dec 13

George X says...

George X wrote:
paulrich wrote:
I've got an 1824 map of Bolton which I bought from the Halliwell Family History group.
Sounds very interesting, maybe you could copy it somehow and put it on facebook or something similar ?
Photobucket ?
[quote][p][bold]George X[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]paulrich[/bold] wrote: I've got an 1824 map of Bolton which I bought from the Halliwell Family History group.[/p][/quote]Sounds very interesting, maybe you could copy it somehow and put it on facebook or something similar ?[/p][/quote]Photobucket ? George X

10:52pm Mon 9 Dec 13

BWFC71 says...

How can you call it a Transport Interchange when it is not a train station there is no car park no trams will ever use it - it is a Bus station (which is 1/3 smaller than the current one) with facilities for cyclists!!!

Can anyone tell me from the TfGM how I can get to the station when the station car park closes Easter next year (to re-instate platform 5) as to where either a) I can park or b) get a bus that gets me to the station for the 7:59 train - consider i I live on an hourly bus route during peak times (and two buses an hour during off-peak) and the current times of the buses either get me to the station at 7:15 or 8:15 which would make me either too early for work or too late for work??? or c) any other alternative that doe not include expensive private hires or black cabs? (there is NO integration of transport in Bolton which the TfGM wholly supports!!!)
How can you call it a Transport Interchange when it is not a train station there is no car park no trams will ever use it - it is a Bus station (which is 1/3 smaller than the current one) with facilities for cyclists!!! Can anyone tell me from the TfGM how I can get to the station when the station car park closes Easter next year (to re-instate platform 5) as to where either a) I can park or b) get a bus that gets me to the station for the 7:59 train - consider i I live on an hourly bus route during peak times (and two buses an hour during off-peak) and the current times of the buses either get me to the station at 7:15 or 8:15 which would make me either too early for work or too late for work??? or c) any other alternative that doe not include expensive private hires or black cabs? (there is NO integration of transport in Bolton which the TfGM wholly supports!!!) BWFC71

11:29am Tue 10 Dec 13

Lucy01 says...

BWFC71 wrote:
How can you call it a Transport Interchange when it is not a train station there is no car park no trams will ever use it - it is a Bus station (which is 1/3 smaller than the current one) with facilities for cyclists!!!

Can anyone tell me from the TfGM how I can get to the station when the station car park closes Easter next year (to re-instate platform 5) as to where either a) I can park or b) get a bus that gets me to the station for the 7:59 train - consider i I live on an hourly bus route during peak times (and two buses an hour during off-peak) and the current times of the buses either get me to the station at 7:15 or 8:15 which would make me either too early for work or too late for work??? or c) any other alternative that doe not include expensive private hires or black cabs? (there is NO integration of transport in Bolton which the TfGM wholly supports!!!)
What are your transport issues got to do with an archaeological find?
[quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: How can you call it a Transport Interchange when it is not a train station there is no car park no trams will ever use it - it is a Bus station (which is 1/3 smaller than the current one) with facilities for cyclists!!! Can anyone tell me from the TfGM how I can get to the station when the station car park closes Easter next year (to re-instate platform 5) as to where either a) I can park or b) get a bus that gets me to the station for the 7:59 train - consider i I live on an hourly bus route during peak times (and two buses an hour during off-peak) and the current times of the buses either get me to the station at 7:15 or 8:15 which would make me either too early for work or too late for work??? or c) any other alternative that doe not include expensive private hires or black cabs? (there is NO integration of transport in Bolton which the TfGM wholly supports!!!)[/p][/quote]What are your transport issues got to do with an archaeological find? Lucy01

1:14pm Tue 10 Dec 13

cliff4treasurer says...

Ni,
I recognise the ruins.
It's what used to be Bolton town centre when there was a place called the "market hall". People used to fill the place shopping at it's little stalls selling all sorts of goods. I remember no one wanted to see it gone but The council leader at the time knew better, I think he was called the fat controller or maybe that was his better known name? There was also a couple of other good outlets but they had something called parking wardens who used to sneak round fining people for parking there cars so they could shop so they stopped coming and went to the city of Bury which is still thriving to this day. Something like that anyway history will record no doubt!
Ni, I recognise the ruins. It's what used to be Bolton town centre when there was a place called the "market hall". People used to fill the place shopping at it's little stalls selling all sorts of goods. I remember no one wanted to see it gone but The council leader at the time knew better, I think he was called the fat controller or maybe that was his better known name? There was also a couple of other good outlets but they had something called parking wardens who used to sneak round fining people for parking there cars so they could shop so they stopped coming and went to the city of Bury which is still thriving to this day. Something like that anyway history will record no doubt! cliff4treasurer

8:23pm Tue 10 Dec 13

dougie kay says...

cliff4treasurer wrote:
Ni,
I recognise the ruins.
It's what used to be Bolton town centre when there was a place called the "market hall". People used to fill the place shopping at it's little stalls selling all sorts of goods. I remember no one wanted to see it gone but The council leader at the time knew better, I think he was called the fat controller or maybe that was his better known name? There was also a couple of other good outlets but they had something called parking wardens who used to sneak round fining people for parking there cars so they could shop so they stopped coming and went to the city of Bury which is still thriving to this day. Something like that anyway history will record no doubt!
they still have a few good outlets in Bolton.mainly the manchester and bury bus routes
[quote][p][bold]cliff4treasurer[/bold] wrote: Ni, I recognise the ruins. It's what used to be Bolton town centre when there was a place called the "market hall". People used to fill the place shopping at it's little stalls selling all sorts of goods. I remember no one wanted to see it gone but The council leader at the time knew better, I think he was called the fat controller or maybe that was his better known name? There was also a couple of other good outlets but they had something called parking wardens who used to sneak round fining people for parking there cars so they could shop so they stopped coming and went to the city of Bury which is still thriving to this day. Something like that anyway history will record no doubt![/p][/quote]they still have a few good outlets in Bolton.mainly the manchester and bury bus routes dougie kay

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