Showers plan for station to encourage cyclists

9:07am Monday 27th August 2012 in Your Town

SHOWERS could be built at the new £50 million transport interchange in a bid to encourage more people to bike into Bolton.

Transport bosses hope the facilities will encourage more commuters to use pedal power instead of their cars — especially those inspired by the success of British cyclists such as Jason Kenny at the Olympics.

A cycle hub is already planned for the transport interchange in New Street, Bolton town centre, but now Transport for Greater Manchester chiefs have announced this will also include showers, changing cubicles, covered and secure parking for bikes, lockers and toilets.

Cllr David Chadwick, who represents Bolton on the TfGM committee, said discussions had taken place about making the hub a stand-alone building rather than it being part of the Interchange itself, but said proposals were still in the early stages.

He added: “People could ride into Bolton, get a shower, put their bike in a locker and then get on the train.

“Thanks to the Olympics and the feats of Jason Kenny I see more and more people on their bikes around Bolton, which is great to see because it’s good exercise.”

The hub is due to open by spring 2015 and is being funded by the £50 million Local Sustainable Transport Fund programme.

People who want to use the facilities would have to become a member of the scheme and would gain access with a swipe card.

The exact details of how many bikes could be stored are still being finalised, but in a separate project, Northern Rail is also planning to install new cycle storage facilities on each of its platforms.

The move has been welcomed by commuters, cycling clubs and health chiefs.

Stephen Smith, aged 45, of The Haulgh , said: “I think showers are a good idea. Where I worked they had them in the office building, but going on the train if you’re scruffy isn’t nice.”

Ray Ducker, aged 53, of Farnworth, has been cycling for 30 years.

He said: “The showers are a good idea. I ride to Great Lever, which is two miles from mine, but if I worked in Bolton I’d use that facility, “I think the Olympics has made people more involved with sport.

Jason Kenny lives near me.” Brendan Nawrocki, aged 34, of Hall i'th'

Wood, said: “It’s a good idea, especially as you could leave your bike.

“I only live two miles out of town and it can take half an hour to get into town in the car because of the traffic.”

Andrew Richardson, secretary of Bolton Hot Wheels cycle club, said: “If this new facility is done well I'm sure it would be a major benefit to the town.”

Lesley Jones, Bolton’s deputy director of public health, said: “Commuting by bike can help you achieve this level of physical activity by making it a regular part of your daily routine.

“If you are unable to perform vigorous exercise, cycling is a great option because it can be done at the speed and level you feel comfortable with.”

The Local Sustainable Transport Fund programme is investing in new cycling schemes, routes and facilities across Greater Manchester to make the bike a “realistic and attractive”

way of getting to work for thousands more people.

Comments (32)

10:48am Mon 27 Aug 12

Reality50 says...

What are needed at Bolton train station are cashpoints and litter bins.Every other main train station has cashpoints so why not Bolton? Walking to Sainsbury's and back across a busy road is ridiculous to get to the nearest ones.
What are needed at Bolton train station are cashpoints and litter bins.Every other main train station has cashpoints so why not Bolton? Walking to Sainsbury's and back across a busy road is ridiculous to get to the nearest ones. Reality50

11:31am Mon 27 Aug 12

TimelordUK says...

After I've cycled from Bolton to Manchester to collect my Advance ticket from the machine, and then cycled back to Bolton to get on the train with my Advance ticket, yes, I'd need a shower too.

Bonkers: 10 - Priorities: 0
After I've cycled from Bolton to Manchester to collect my Advance ticket from the machine, and then cycled back to Bolton to get on the train with my Advance ticket, yes, I'd need a shower too. Bonkers: 10 - Priorities: 0 TimelordUK

12:22pm Mon 27 Aug 12

Reality50 says...

Also on the subject of priorities,how about trains that stop at Moses Gate and Farnworth in the evenings and on Sundays please? Currently they stop at 6.45pm and we have no trains on Sunday at all yet you can afford to spend money on shower cubicles.People wouldn't need to cycle if they had adequate train services at their nearest small stations.
Also on the subject of priorities,how about trains that stop at Moses Gate and Farnworth in the evenings and on Sundays please? Currently they stop at 6.45pm and we have no trains on Sunday at all yet you can afford to spend money on shower cubicles.People wouldn't need to cycle if they had adequate train services at their nearest small stations. Reality50

12:22pm Mon 27 Aug 12

Reality50 says...

Also on the subject of priorities,how about trains that stop at Moses Gate and Farnworth in the evenings and on Sundays please? Currently they stop at 6.45pm and we have no trains on Sunday at all yet you can afford to spend money on shower cubicles.People wouldn't need to cycle if they had adequate train services at their nearest small stations.
Also on the subject of priorities,how about trains that stop at Moses Gate and Farnworth in the evenings and on Sundays please? Currently they stop at 6.45pm and we have no trains on Sunday at all yet you can afford to spend money on shower cubicles.People wouldn't need to cycle if they had adequate train services at their nearest small stations. Reality50

1:26pm Mon 27 Aug 12

Boltontoday says...

Very nice but what's really needed is clean, modern and safe trains to replace the disgusting, ancient wrecks run by Northern Rail.
Very nice but what's really needed is clean, modern and safe trains to replace the disgusting, ancient wrecks run by Northern Rail. Boltontoday

5:03pm Mon 27 Aug 12

BWFC71 says...

Ahhhh Northern Rail - half owned by NS (Nederlands Spoorwegen) who are currently buying complete new train units for services in Holland - brand new single deckers and double decker trains as well as HS trains for their Fyra routes!!!
Ahhhh Northern Rail - half owned by NS (Nederlands Spoorwegen) who are currently buying complete new train units for services in Holland - brand new single deckers and double decker trains as well as HS trains for their Fyra routes!!! BWFC71

5:43pm Mon 27 Aug 12

TimelordUK says...

I think the vast majority of serious rail users in Bolton would prefer to have an Advance Purchase ticket machine installed than a shower. Much cheaper, and more use would be made of it.

I am still amazed after the 4 million pound revamp or whatever they spent, we dont have an advance ticket machine or cash points. Id understand a bit more if the station had a footfall of twenty odd people each train (some very odd!) but each time I leave the train at Bolton over a HUNDRED get off that train.

No doubt the toilet vandals cant wait for the new showers either
I think the vast majority of serious rail users in Bolton would prefer to have an Advance Purchase ticket machine installed than a shower. Much cheaper, and more use would be made of it. I am still amazed after the 4 million pound revamp or whatever they spent, we dont have an advance ticket machine or cash points. Id understand a bit more if the station had a footfall of twenty odd people each train (some very odd!) but each time I leave the train at Bolton over a HUNDRED get off that train. No doubt the toilet vandals cant wait for the new showers either TimelordUK

5:47pm Mon 27 Aug 12

jillyt says...

ye!s can i push the smelly peeps in --the ones that knock me sick smelling of bobby orange ... 'B.O'
ye!s can i push the smelly peeps in --the ones that knock me sick smelling of bobby orange ... 'B.O' jillyt

7:10pm Mon 27 Aug 12

Reality50 says...

The revamp has hardly improved anything at the station.The shop in the foyer has gone where you could buy food and newspapers and the pre booking and enquiries office has gone as well.The only improvements I see is a longer canopy and wider ticket offices.Also why is it I can travel to many far flung places cheaper from Manchester Piccadilly than from Bolton? Very few routes offer cheap advance fares from Bolton yet they do from Piccadilly but 5 years ago you could get many cheap advance fares from Bolton.
The revamp has hardly improved anything at the station.The shop in the foyer has gone where you could buy food and newspapers and the pre booking and enquiries office has gone as well.The only improvements I see is a longer canopy and wider ticket offices.Also why is it I can travel to many far flung places cheaper from Manchester Piccadilly than from Bolton? Very few routes offer cheap advance fares from Bolton yet they do from Piccadilly but 5 years ago you could get many cheap advance fares from Bolton. Reality50

7:10pm Mon 27 Aug 12

Horwich Observer says...

Surely it would make more sense to spend money on more carriages, advanced ticket machines and cash machines.

And can you imagine the sort or low-life that would hanging about the shower blocks..
Surely it would make more sense to spend money on more carriages, advanced ticket machines and cash machines. And can you imagine the sort or low-life that would hanging about the shower blocks.. Horwich Observer

9:45pm Mon 27 Aug 12

Joesixpack says...

Signs say that £4m was spent on the station. Where? £1m looks generous. so what will showers cost? Showers are needed when you get off those stinking sardine cans which some call trains.
Signs say that £4m was spent on the station. Where? £1m looks generous. so what will showers cost? Showers are needed when you get off those stinking sardine cans which some call trains. Joesixpack

12:08am Tue 28 Aug 12

macauley says...

it will take a lot cycles to justyfiy that kind of money.plus this will encorage more perverts to hang around the showers.
it will take a lot cycles to justyfiy that kind of money.plus this will encorage more perverts to hang around the showers. macauley

12:58am Tue 28 Aug 12

tommy says...

Ridiculous. Wasn't there a post a few weeks ago about the toilets getting constantly vandalized?

Secondly, to justify building showers, you attract more cyclists. To attract more cyclists, you probably need more secure bike locking facilities. I've not visited the station for a while (no surprise there), but I'm sure there's no decent place to store a bike.

This should be wayyyy down the priorities list. Does Picadilly even have showers? Like a poster above said, a cash machine, litter bins and an advance ticket machine would be a more sound investment.
Ridiculous. Wasn't there a post a few weeks ago about the toilets getting constantly vandalized? Secondly, to justify building showers, you attract more cyclists. To attract more cyclists, you probably need more secure bike locking facilities. I've not visited the station for a while (no surprise there), but I'm sure there's no decent place to store a bike. This should be wayyyy down the priorities list. Does Picadilly even have showers? Like a poster above said, a cash machine, litter bins and an advance ticket machine would be a more sound investment. tommy

4:38pm Tue 28 Aug 12

rostron says...

Cycle to train station, get shower, then stand on cold draughty platform in middle of winter! Just what planet are these people on?
Never heard anything as daft in my life!
Cycle to train station, get shower, then stand on cold draughty platform in middle of winter! Just what planet are these people on? Never heard anything as daft in my life! rostron

8:01pm Wed 29 Aug 12

Rod Shernude says...

another half baked idea, this will never work, it will be a fad used for a while maybe, then locked up due to the lack of funds, because facilities like this are the first to go when cutbacks are applied, as always...
another half baked idea, this will never work, it will be a fad used for a while maybe, then locked up due to the lack of funds, because facilities like this are the first to go when cutbacks are applied, as always... Rod Shernude

12:38am Thu 30 Aug 12

hoboh2o says...

Hang a hose pipe from the last lampost before the station. sorted!
When cyclists pay road tax and have to take out outrageous compulsory insurance, by law, then maybe they might be in with a shout for facilities otherwise no way Jose!!
Hang a hose pipe from the last lampost before the station. sorted! When cyclists pay road tax and have to take out outrageous compulsory insurance, by law, then maybe they might be in with a shout for facilities otherwise no way Jose!! hoboh2o

12:55am Thu 30 Aug 12

macauley says...

hoboh2o wrote:
Hang a hose pipe from the last lampost before the station. sorted! When cyclists pay road tax and have to take out outrageous compulsory insurance, by law, then maybe they might be in with a shout for facilities otherwise no way Jose!!
i will second that hoboh20.
[quote][p][bold]hoboh2o[/bold] wrote: Hang a hose pipe from the last lampost before the station. sorted! When cyclists pay road tax and have to take out outrageous compulsory insurance, by law, then maybe they might be in with a shout for facilities otherwise no way Jose!![/p][/quote]i will second that hoboh20. macauley

8:34pm Thu 30 Aug 12

frank wood says...

Almost all the adult cyclists I know DO pay road tax - because they also have a car. So while they are on their bike, they are actually subsidising the lazy folk who go everywhere by car. And everyone in a cycling club, including the hundreds of thousands in the CTC, DO have insurance. So when will the anti cycling brigade banish these myths?
Almost all the adult cyclists I know DO pay road tax - because they also have a car. So while they are on their bike, they are actually subsidising the lazy folk who go everywhere by car. And everyone in a cycling club, including the hundreds of thousands in the CTC, DO have insurance. So when will the anti cycling brigade banish these myths? frank wood

10:38pm Thu 30 Aug 12

hoboh2o says...

frank wood wrote:
Almost all the adult cyclists I know DO pay road tax - because they also have a car. So while they are on their bike, they are actually subsidising the lazy folk who go everywhere by car. And everyone in a cycling club, including the hundreds of thousands in the CTC, DO have insurance. So when will the anti cycling brigade banish these myths?
CTC is an independent charity, and relies on 70,000 members, volunteers, grant funders and partners for support

Hundreds of Thousands? Nice try Frank been standing behind a bull?
[quote][p][bold]frank wood[/bold] wrote: Almost all the adult cyclists I know DO pay road tax - because they also have a car. So while they are on their bike, they are actually subsidising the lazy folk who go everywhere by car. And everyone in a cycling club, including the hundreds of thousands in the CTC, DO have insurance. So when will the anti cycling brigade banish these myths?[/p][/quote]CTC is an independent charity, and relies on 70,000 members, volunteers, grant funders and partners for support Hundreds of Thousands? Nice try Frank been standing behind a bull? hoboh2o

4:31pm Fri 31 Aug 12

The Baron says...

Ahhh the old chestnut of "road tax" raises its head once again. Its called vehicle excise duty, NOT road tax. Its a tax on cars, not a tax on using the road.
Ahhh the old chestnut of "road tax" raises its head once again. Its called vehicle excise duty, NOT road tax. Its a tax on cars, not a tax on using the road. The Baron

5:42pm Fri 31 Aug 12

tenaciousp says...

macauley wrote:
hoboh2o wrote:
Hang a hose pipe from the last lampost before the station. sorted! When cyclists pay road tax and have to take out outrageous compulsory insurance, by law, then maybe they might be in with a shout for facilities otherwise no way Jose!!
i will second that hoboh20.
I wondered how far down the list I had to be before I got to a comment like this - myself and my husband both in our 40s are keen cyclists, there are also 3 cars in our household on which we pay road tax and have done so for a considerable number of years - we also have insurance thru our membership of British Cycling - the attitude of some people towards people who love a very popular sport with great health and environmental benefits drives me mad - the last time you probably used a bike was when it had 3 wheels - until cycling is more accessible for everyday living and we are better catered for the roads will remain shockingly busy and attitudes of both non cycling drivers and even pedestrians will never change.
[quote][p][bold]macauley[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hoboh2o[/bold] wrote: Hang a hose pipe from the last lampost before the station. sorted! When cyclists pay road tax and have to take out outrageous compulsory insurance, by law, then maybe they might be in with a shout for facilities otherwise no way Jose!![/p][/quote]i will second that hoboh20.[/p][/quote]I wondered how far down the list I had to be before I got to a comment like this - myself and my husband both in our 40s are keen cyclists, there are also 3 cars in our household on which we pay road tax and have done so for a considerable number of years - we also have insurance thru our membership of British Cycling - the attitude of some people towards people who love a very popular sport with great health and environmental benefits drives me mad - the last time you probably used a bike was when it had 3 wheels - until cycling is more accessible for everyday living and we are better catered for the roads will remain shockingly busy and attitudes of both non cycling drivers and even pedestrians will never change. tenaciousp

10:09pm Fri 31 Aug 12

macauley says...

they will tell us next there will be an automatic bike wash being built as well.
they will tell us next there will be an automatic bike wash being built as well. macauley

10:28pm Fri 31 Aug 12

Tfookweet says...

tenaciousp wrote:
macauley wrote:
hoboh2o wrote:
Hang a hose pipe from the last lampost before the station. sorted! When cyclists pay road tax and have to take out outrageous compulsory insurance, by law, then maybe they might be in with a shout for facilities otherwise no way Jose!!
i will second that hoboh20.
I wondered how far down the list I had to be before I got to a comment like this - myself and my husband both in our 40s are keen cyclists, there are also 3 cars in our household on which we pay road tax and have done so for a considerable number of years - we also have insurance thru our membership of British Cycling - the attitude of some people towards people who love a very popular sport with great health and environmental benefits drives me mad - the last time you probably used a bike was when it had 3 wheels - until cycling is more accessible for everyday living and we are better catered for the roads will remain shockingly busy and attitudes of both non cycling drivers and even pedestrians will never change.
im sorry but yet another waste of money,
as with Cycle lanes,& bus lanes ...i drive all the time,, i love it and i hate exercise and riding a bike,was fun when i was 9 ,, , well done you pay insurance etc etc even 3 cars !!!! wow ....,,, But motorist are hammered on everything now,,the Only reason towns have Cycle lanes is that they get a extra £3 million pound budget for providing this Rarely used service...,, its all to do with going green.... but lets be honest .... next time you drive to work ,,,look how many cyclists are in them useless Cycle lanes.... err none... a fine example of this is moss bank way,, 10 trees cut down ,, made into single lanes....average bike rider per day ..... 3 and most dont stop for red lights !!.....cost millions,,, waste of money.... we have cr@p weather in the uk be honest , bet you dont get the raliegh shopper out when its raining / snowing . it does not warrant such stupid ideas,,, if you want healthy, buy a Wi - Fit, or buy a exercise bike and watch corrie from the comfort of the living room , ditch the bike, invest in motorways,Public transport & road repairs .
cars will always be the 1st choice, no mater what Green ideas ,car sharing,bike,walk to work blah blah , so Invest in the car...
plus,, please try to keep nearer the kerb,, and why do some cyclists ride double on a mian road ??? that is annoying ..and dangerous ...
up the car !!!
j
[quote][p][bold]tenaciousp[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macauley[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hoboh2o[/bold] wrote: Hang a hose pipe from the last lampost before the station. sorted! When cyclists pay road tax and have to take out outrageous compulsory insurance, by law, then maybe they might be in with a shout for facilities otherwise no way Jose!![/p][/quote]i will second that hoboh20.[/p][/quote]I wondered how far down the list I had to be before I got to a comment like this - myself and my husband both in our 40s are keen cyclists, there are also 3 cars in our household on which we pay road tax and have done so for a considerable number of years - we also have insurance thru our membership of British Cycling - the attitude of some people towards people who love a very popular sport with great health and environmental benefits drives me mad - the last time you probably used a bike was when it had 3 wheels - until cycling is more accessible for everyday living and we are better catered for the roads will remain shockingly busy and attitudes of both non cycling drivers and even pedestrians will never change.[/p][/quote]im sorry but yet another waste of money, as with Cycle lanes,& bus lanes ...i drive all the time,, i love it and i hate exercise and riding a bike,was fun when i was 9 ,, , well done you pay insurance etc etc even 3 cars !!!! wow ....,,, But motorist are hammered on everything now,,the Only reason towns have Cycle lanes is that they get a extra £3 million pound budget for providing this Rarely used service...,, its all to do with going green.... but lets be honest .... next time you drive to work ,,,look how many cyclists are in them useless Cycle lanes.... err none... a fine example of this is moss bank way,, 10 trees cut down ,, made into single lanes....average bike rider per day ..... 3 and most dont stop for red lights !!.....cost millions,,, waste of money.... we have cr@p weather in the uk be honest , bet you dont get the raliegh shopper out when its raining / snowing . it does not warrant such stupid ideas,,, if you want healthy, buy a Wi - Fit, or buy a exercise bike and watch corrie from the comfort of the living room , ditch the bike, invest in motorways,Public transport & road repairs . cars will always be the 1st choice, no mater what Green ideas ,car sharing,bike,walk to work blah blah , so Invest in the car... plus,, please try to keep nearer the kerb,, and why do some cyclists ride double on a mian road ??? that is annoying ..and dangerous ... up the car !!! j Tfookweet

10:46pm Fri 31 Aug 12

Tfookweet says...

and a useful safety tip for SOME pedestrians,, take them bl00dy earphones stuck to your ears from yer ipad-pod-mp whatever and watch the Traffic and suroudings... and dont cross the road at a SNAIL pace hands in pockets @rse hanging out of jeans when faced with on coming trafic,, use the GREEN CROSS CODE
and a useful safety tip for SOME pedestrians,, take them bl00dy earphones stuck to your ears from yer ipad-pod-mp whatever and watch the Traffic and suroudings... and dont cross the road at a SNAIL pace hands in pockets @rse hanging out of jeans when faced with on coming trafic,, use the GREEN CROSS CODE Tfookweet

10:52pm Fri 31 Aug 12

Tfookweet says...

tenaciousp wrote:
macauley wrote:
hoboh2o wrote:
Hang a hose pipe from the last lampost before the station. sorted! When cyclists pay road tax and have to take out outrageous compulsory insurance, by law, then maybe they might be in with a shout for facilities otherwise no way Jose!!
i will second that hoboh20.
I wondered how far down the list I had to be before I got to a comment like this - myself and my husband both in our 40s are keen cyclists, there are also 3 cars in our household on which we pay road tax and have done so for a considerable number of years - we also have insurance thru our membership of British Cycling - the attitude of some people towards people who love a very popular sport with great health and environmental benefits drives me mad - the last time you probably used a bike was when it had 3 wheels - until cycling is more accessible for everyday living and we are better catered for the roads will remain shockingly busy and attitudes of both non cycling drivers and even pedestrians will never change.
3 wheels...
what model....... had a raliegh Grifter..
[quote][p][bold]tenaciousp[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macauley[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hoboh2o[/bold] wrote: Hang a hose pipe from the last lampost before the station. sorted! When cyclists pay road tax and have to take out outrageous compulsory insurance, by law, then maybe they might be in with a shout for facilities otherwise no way Jose!![/p][/quote]i will second that hoboh20.[/p][/quote]I wondered how far down the list I had to be before I got to a comment like this - myself and my husband both in our 40s are keen cyclists, there are also 3 cars in our household on which we pay road tax and have done so for a considerable number of years - we also have insurance thru our membership of British Cycling - the attitude of some people towards people who love a very popular sport with great health and environmental benefits drives me mad - the last time you probably used a bike was when it had 3 wheels - until cycling is more accessible for everyday living and we are better catered for the roads will remain shockingly busy and attitudes of both non cycling drivers and even pedestrians will never change.[/p][/quote]3 wheels... what model....... had a raliegh Grifter.. Tfookweet

10:52pm Fri 31 Aug 12

Tfookweet says...

tenaciousp wrote:
macauley wrote:
hoboh2o wrote:
Hang a hose pipe from the last lampost before the station. sorted! When cyclists pay road tax and have to take out outrageous compulsory insurance, by law, then maybe they might be in with a shout for facilities otherwise no way Jose!!
i will second that hoboh20.
I wondered how far down the list I had to be before I got to a comment like this - myself and my husband both in our 40s are keen cyclists, there are also 3 cars in our household on which we pay road tax and have done so for a considerable number of years - we also have insurance thru our membership of British Cycling - the attitude of some people towards people who love a very popular sport with great health and environmental benefits drives me mad - the last time you probably used a bike was when it had 3 wheels - until cycling is more accessible for everyday living and we are better catered for the roads will remain shockingly busy and attitudes of both non cycling drivers and even pedestrians will never change.
3 wheels...
what model....... had a raliegh Grifter..
[quote][p][bold]tenaciousp[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macauley[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hoboh2o[/bold] wrote: Hang a hose pipe from the last lampost before the station. sorted! When cyclists pay road tax and have to take out outrageous compulsory insurance, by law, then maybe they might be in with a shout for facilities otherwise no way Jose!![/p][/quote]i will second that hoboh20.[/p][/quote]I wondered how far down the list I had to be before I got to a comment like this - myself and my husband both in our 40s are keen cyclists, there are also 3 cars in our household on which we pay road tax and have done so for a considerable number of years - we also have insurance thru our membership of British Cycling - the attitude of some people towards people who love a very popular sport with great health and environmental benefits drives me mad - the last time you probably used a bike was when it had 3 wheels - until cycling is more accessible for everyday living and we are better catered for the roads will remain shockingly busy and attitudes of both non cycling drivers and even pedestrians will never change.[/p][/quote]3 wheels... what model....... had a raliegh Grifter.. Tfookweet

11:06pm Fri 31 Aug 12

hoboh2o says...

tenaciousp wrote:
macauley wrote:
hoboh2o wrote:
Hang a hose pipe from the last lampost before the station. sorted! When cyclists pay road tax and have to take out outrageous compulsory insurance, by law, then maybe they might be in with a shout for facilities otherwise no way Jose!!
i will second that hoboh20.
I wondered how far down the list I had to be before I got to a comment like this - myself and my husband both in our 40s are keen cyclists, there are also 3 cars in our household on which we pay road tax and have done so for a considerable number of years - we also have insurance thru our membership of British Cycling - the attitude of some people towards people who love a very popular sport with great health and environmental benefits drives me mad - the last time you probably used a bike was when it had 3 wheels - until cycling is more accessible for everyday living and we are better catered for the roads will remain shockingly busy and attitudes of both non cycling drivers and even pedestrians will never change.
Actually, I use my pedal cycle through country parks and down canal towpaths, so yes I do use ‘bikes’. What I do not do is expect to be provided free of charge lanes on public highways, showers in stations or at work etc just because I choose to ride a bike.
I think you will find that the bike community are the worlds worst for causing all the aggravation in these debates, especially those clowns with cycle cams who post ‘near misses’ on you tube showing them wobbling all over the road berating motorists like the half wit who cycles down the A666 from Bolton towards Manchester. This bright individual was that bothered about a car allegedly cutting him up he ran into the back of a stationary vehicle!
MOST cyclists do not have insurance, Google it if you don’t believe me and if it is your environmental or health kick fine but don’t ram it down everyone else’s throats.
[quote][p][bold]tenaciousp[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macauley[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hoboh2o[/bold] wrote: Hang a hose pipe from the last lampost before the station. sorted! When cyclists pay road tax and have to take out outrageous compulsory insurance, by law, then maybe they might be in with a shout for facilities otherwise no way Jose!![/p][/quote]i will second that hoboh20.[/p][/quote]I wondered how far down the list I had to be before I got to a comment like this - myself and my husband both in our 40s are keen cyclists, there are also 3 cars in our household on which we pay road tax and have done so for a considerable number of years - we also have insurance thru our membership of British Cycling - the attitude of some people towards people who love a very popular sport with great health and environmental benefits drives me mad - the last time you probably used a bike was when it had 3 wheels - until cycling is more accessible for everyday living and we are better catered for the roads will remain shockingly busy and attitudes of both non cycling drivers and even pedestrians will never change.[/p][/quote]Actually, I use my pedal cycle through country parks and down canal towpaths, so yes I do use ‘bikes’. What I do not do is expect to be provided free of charge lanes on public highways, showers in stations or at work etc just because I choose to ride a bike. I think you will find that the bike community are the worlds worst for causing all the aggravation in these debates, especially those clowns with cycle cams who post ‘near misses’ on you tube showing them wobbling all over the road berating motorists like the half wit who cycles down the A666 from Bolton towards Manchester. This bright individual was that bothered about a car allegedly cutting him up he ran into the back of a stationary vehicle! MOST cyclists do not have insurance, Google it if you don’t believe me and if it is your environmental or health kick fine but don’t ram it down everyone else’s throats. hoboh2o

11:07pm Fri 31 Aug 12

Tfookweet says...

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11:10pm Fri 31 Aug 12

Tfookweet says...

hoboh2o wrote:
tenaciousp wrote:
macauley wrote:
hoboh2o wrote:
Hang a hose pipe from the last lampost before the station. sorted! When cyclists pay road tax and have to take out outrageous compulsory insurance, by law, then maybe they might be in with a shout for facilities otherwise no way Jose!!
i will second that hoboh20.
I wondered how far down the list I had to be before I got to a comment like this - myself and my husband both in our 40s are keen cyclists, there are also 3 cars in our household on which we pay road tax and have done so for a considerable number of years - we also have insurance thru our membership of British Cycling - the attitude of some people towards people who love a very popular sport with great health and environmental benefits drives me mad - the last time you probably used a bike was when it had 3 wheels - until cycling is more accessible for everyday living and we are better catered for the roads will remain shockingly busy and attitudes of both non cycling drivers and even pedestrians will never change.
Actually, I use my pedal cycle through country parks and down canal towpaths, so yes I do use ‘bikes’. What I do not do is expect to be provided free of charge lanes on public highways, showers in stations or at work etc just because I choose to ride a bike.
I think you will find that the bike community are the worlds worst for causing all the aggravation in these debates, especially those clowns with cycle cams who post ‘near misses’ on you tube showing them wobbling all over the road berating motorists like the half wit who cycles down the A666 from Bolton towards Manchester. This bright individual was that bothered about a car allegedly cutting him up he ran into the back of a stationary vehicle!
MOST cyclists do not have insurance, Google it if you don’t believe me and if it is your environmental or health kick fine but don’t ram it down everyone else’s throats.
well said !!!
[quote][p][bold]hoboh2o[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tenaciousp[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macauley[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hoboh2o[/bold] wrote: Hang a hose pipe from the last lampost before the station. sorted! When cyclists pay road tax and have to take out outrageous compulsory insurance, by law, then maybe they might be in with a shout for facilities otherwise no way Jose!![/p][/quote]i will second that hoboh20.[/p][/quote]I wondered how far down the list I had to be before I got to a comment like this - myself and my husband both in our 40s are keen cyclists, there are also 3 cars in our household on which we pay road tax and have done so for a considerable number of years - we also have insurance thru our membership of British Cycling - the attitude of some people towards people who love a very popular sport with great health and environmental benefits drives me mad - the last time you probably used a bike was when it had 3 wheels - until cycling is more accessible for everyday living and we are better catered for the roads will remain shockingly busy and attitudes of both non cycling drivers and even pedestrians will never change.[/p][/quote]Actually, I use my pedal cycle through country parks and down canal towpaths, so yes I do use ‘bikes’. What I do not do is expect to be provided free of charge lanes on public highways, showers in stations or at work etc just because I choose to ride a bike. I think you will find that the bike community are the worlds worst for causing all the aggravation in these debates, especially those clowns with cycle cams who post ‘near misses’ on you tube showing them wobbling all over the road berating motorists like the half wit who cycles down the A666 from Bolton towards Manchester. This bright individual was that bothered about a car allegedly cutting him up he ran into the back of a stationary vehicle! MOST cyclists do not have insurance, Google it if you don’t believe me and if it is your environmental or health kick fine but don’t ram it down everyone else’s throats.[/p][/quote]well said !!! Tfookweet

9:41am Sat 1 Sep 12

Flycatcher says...

Not being funny but as well as providing the shower facilities surely they will have to provide attendants to keep them clean? I'm not so sure I fancy showering in the same place some scrotes will undoubtedly be injecting themselves, playing with themselves, sleeping or just practising vandalism!
Not being funny but as well as providing the shower facilities surely they will have to provide attendants to keep them clean? I'm not so sure I fancy showering in the same place some scrotes will undoubtedly be injecting themselves, playing with themselves, sleeping or just practising vandalism! Flycatcher

10:31am Sat 1 Sep 12

macauley says...

looks like a bad idea going off most of the comments on this!.
looks like a bad idea going off most of the comments on this!. macauley

6:09pm Sat 1 Sep 12

davroduk1 says...

So no need for me to waste money on a "soap on a rope" then ?
Its a sad sign of the times, but as has been said before these facilities will just attract the low life of the town to pester the law abiding train users.
How many public toilets have been closed over the years because of scrotes and weirdos frequenting them ??.
A place where these devients can legaly remove all their clothes and (you will have to imagine the rest).
Crazy idea.
So no need for me to waste money on a "soap on a rope" then ? Its a sad sign of the times, but as has been said before these facilities will just attract the low life of the town to pester the law abiding train users. How many public toilets have been closed over the years because of scrotes and weirdos frequenting them ??. A place where these devients can legaly remove all their clothes and (you will have to imagine the rest). Crazy idea. davroduk1

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