Police jobs will go in move to cut costs

9:03am Friday 11th January 2013 in Local

THE structure of Bolton police is to change as part of a major shake-up to save money.

Twelve police posts will be lost when the changes come into effect in March next year — but Supt Phil Davies said that no officers will be lost because there are 18 vacancies at the moment.

He said: “We have 450 officers in Bolton. We can manage the change fairly well.”

The boundaries of four policing areas — Bolton central, east, west and south — will change to three, which will be called Bolton north, south and central.

The north team will be lead by Insp Wayne Readfern, who is currently in charge at Bolton East, while Insp Chris Evans, who is at Bolton West, will move to Bolton South, and Insp Andy Sidebotham will take over from Insp Paul Devall at the central team.

Supt Davies said PCSOs will remain largely on the same beats as before but may be working from different bases.

The number of neighbourhood officers will be reduced from 64 to 36, and their teams will be renamed “integrated neighbourhood policing teams” because they will be working alongside CID.

There will be an increase of 15 officers in the volume crime team, which deals with burglaries, robberies and vehicle crime, and eight more CID officers.

Supt Davies said: “This will strengthen investigations and help us sort out the root of the problems.

“We are all one team and this is about delivering a good service.”

Changes will be happening across Greater Manchester as the force has to save £134 million over four years.

Supt Davies added: “It is in the public interest, of course, because it is a change in the way we are doing things.

“There are ongoing financial constraints and, like every force, we have got to make savings.”

It is not yet known what will happen to police buildings, and Supt Davies said they were reviewing their estate, which is controlled by newly-elected police and crime commissioner Tony Lloyd.

Mr Lloyd said: “At the moment I am not saying close any stations or open new ones. We need to look at the value for money of the police stations — are they in the right place and do they best serve the community?

“I am more concerned that the public can access the police.”

Comments (8)

10:16am Fri 11 Jan 13

Phil from Smithills says...

Tony Lloyd., former Manchester Central MP., based in Manchester, I await to see if Manchester lose any positions or is it going to be the rest of the boroughs.
Tony Lloyd., former Manchester Central MP., based in Manchester, I await to see if Manchester lose any positions or is it going to be the rest of the boroughs. Phil from Smithills

5:30pm Fri 11 Jan 13

Boltontoday says...

If there are 18 vacancies why not take out 18 posts?
If there are 18 vacancies why not take out 18 posts? Boltontoday

7:42pm Fri 11 Jan 13

Beyond News Forum says...

People people, another one of those.... OOooooooo bleed your heart out for the police reports.

In town police only need very simple vehicles to support their foot units (whenever you actually see beat officers).

There is no need for cops in Bolton to have flash BMW's and high performance cars. Leave them cars for the motorway cops, there are far simpler ways to catch a car thief these days without the need for road races. Hence why the police have the 'Stinger' and other tools in their arsenals.

It is high time the police started to do a spot of budgeting to keep their workforce that IS a MORAL and SOCIAL need.

Look people to catch a criminal you need the law on your side of course, but the law too is guilty of being very wasteful with budgets.

A Fiesta 1.3 will do just as well at catching a car thief in Bolton as the BMW's. Jeez the police have a hold off policy or they are supposed to do when chasing/tailing stolen cars. The only police that need high performance cars are those on the motorways.

Don't get me wrong, this is not a direct go at the police, this is also down to government cuts, but as I say... cut out the bling and get back on the beat. MONEY SAVED... JOBS SAVED!
People people, another one of those.... OOooooooo bleed your heart out for the police reports. In town police only need very simple vehicles to support their foot units (whenever you actually see beat officers). There is no need for cops in Bolton to have flash BMW's and high performance cars. Leave them cars for the motorway cops, there are far simpler ways to catch a car thief these days without the need for road races. Hence why the police have the 'Stinger' and other tools in their arsenals. It is high time the police started to do a spot of budgeting to keep their workforce that IS a MORAL and SOCIAL need. Look people to catch a criminal you need the law on your side of course, but the law too is guilty of being very wasteful with budgets. A Fiesta 1.3 will do just as well at catching a car thief in Bolton as the BMW's. Jeez the police have a hold off policy or they are supposed to do when chasing/tailing stolen cars. The only police that need high performance cars are those on the motorways. Don't get me wrong, this is not a direct go at the police, this is also down to government cuts, but as I say... cut out the bling and get back on the beat. MONEY SAVED... JOBS SAVED! Beyond News Forum

8:39pm Fri 11 Jan 13

boltonnut says...

Who the hell thinks up this sh!te?Bolton police are eliminating 12 job.BUT they have 18 vacancies.I wasn't that good at SUMS at school BUT I could have told them them not to lay off the 12 people just hire 6 more.Am I missing something here?
Who the hell thinks up this sh!te?Bolton police are eliminating 12 job.BUT they have 18 vacancies.I wasn't that good at SUMS at school BUT I could have told them them not to lay off the 12 people just hire 6 more.Am I missing something here? boltonnut

11:52pm Fri 11 Jan 13

Andyroost says...

Beyond News Forum wrote:
People people, another one of those.... OOooooooo bleed your heart out for the police reports. In town police only need very simple vehicles to support their foot units (whenever you actually see beat officers). There is no need for cops in Bolton to have flash BMW's and high performance cars. Leave them cars for the motorway cops, there are far simpler ways to catch a car thief these days without the need for road races. Hence why the police have the 'Stinger' and other tools in their arsenals. It is high time the police started to do a spot of budgeting to keep their workforce that IS a MORAL and SOCIAL need. Look people to catch a criminal you need the law on your side of course, but the law too is guilty of being very wasteful with budgets. A Fiesta 1.3 will do just as well at catching a car thief in Bolton as the BMW's. Jeez the police have a hold off policy or they are supposed to do when chasing/tailing stolen cars. The only police that need high performance cars are those on the motorways. Don't get me wrong, this is not a direct go at the police, this is also down to government cuts, but as I say... cut out the bling and get back on the beat. MONEY SAVED... JOBS SAVED!
Iv said exactly the same for years, They dont even need BMW's on the motorways, No car on this earth can keep up with a police radio, Get a chase on a motorway, get a Police car to stop a Articulated lorry, ask them to block all three lanes, Where do they Go? Job done. Also i have a Transit that will keep up with an X5 and less than 20K. 1 x BMW X5 £50,000 4 x Focus £45,000 simple solution
[quote][p][bold]Beyond News Forum[/bold] wrote: People people, another one of those.... OOooooooo bleed your heart out for the police reports. In town police only need very simple vehicles to support their foot units (whenever you actually see beat officers). There is no need for cops in Bolton to have flash BMW's and high performance cars. Leave them cars for the motorway cops, there are far simpler ways to catch a car thief these days without the need for road races. Hence why the police have the 'Stinger' and other tools in their arsenals. It is high time the police started to do a spot of budgeting to keep their workforce that IS a MORAL and SOCIAL need. Look people to catch a criminal you need the law on your side of course, but the law too is guilty of being very wasteful with budgets. A Fiesta 1.3 will do just as well at catching a car thief in Bolton as the BMW's. Jeez the police have a hold off policy or they are supposed to do when chasing/tailing stolen cars. The only police that need high performance cars are those on the motorways. Don't get me wrong, this is not a direct go at the police, this is also down to government cuts, but as I say... cut out the bling and get back on the beat. MONEY SAVED... JOBS SAVED![/p][/quote]Iv said exactly the same for years, They dont even need BMW's on the motorways, No car on this earth can keep up with a police radio, Get a chase on a motorway, get a Police car to stop a Articulated lorry, ask them to block all three lanes, Where do they Go? Job done. Also i have a Transit that will keep up with an X5 and less than 20K. 1 x BMW X5 £50,000 4 x Focus £45,000 simple solution Andyroost

4:00am Sat 12 Jan 13

oftbewildered2 says...

boltonnut wrote:
Who the hell thinks up this sh!te?Bolton police are eliminating 12 job.BUT they have 18 vacancies.I wasn't that good at SUMS at school BUT I could have told them them not to lay off the 12 people just hire 6 more.Am I missing something here?
perhaps the posts to go are police civilians, who are not qualified/trained/fi
t enough etc. for police work.
[quote][p][bold]boltonnut[/bold] wrote: Who the hell thinks up this sh!te?Bolton police are eliminating 12 job.BUT they have 18 vacancies.I wasn't that good at SUMS at school BUT I could have told them them not to lay off the 12 people just hire 6 more.Am I missing something here?[/p][/quote]perhaps the posts to go are police civilians, who are not qualified/trained/fi t enough etc. for police work. oftbewildered2

9:17am Wed 16 Jan 13

PhilipADavies says...

boltonnut wrote:
Who the hell thinks up this sh!te?Bolton police are eliminating 12 job.BUT they have 18 vacancies.I wasn't that good at SUMS at school BUT I could have told them them not to lay off the 12 people just hire 6 more.Am I missing something here?
Police officers (at present) cannot be made redundant due to their conditions of service and long held restrictions on their right to industrial action. Reductions are therefore managed by natural wastage (retirement etc). Bolton Division has been holding vacancies so when the cuts come, we protect where possible the posts of local officers who know the people and places of our borough. This helps maintain a good level of service.
[quote][p][bold]boltonnut[/bold] wrote: Who the hell thinks up this sh!te?Bolton police are eliminating 12 job.BUT they have 18 vacancies.I wasn't that good at SUMS at school BUT I could have told them them not to lay off the 12 people just hire 6 more.Am I missing something here?[/p][/quote]Police officers (at present) cannot be made redundant due to their conditions of service and long held restrictions on their right to industrial action. Reductions are therefore managed by natural wastage (retirement etc). Bolton Division has been holding vacancies so when the cuts come, we protect where possible the posts of local officers who know the people and places of our borough. This helps maintain a good level of service. PhilipADavies

9:21am Wed 16 Jan 13

PhilipADavies says...

Beyond News Forum wrote:
People people, another one of those.... OOooooooo bleed your heart out for the police reports. In town police only need very simple vehicles to support their foot units (whenever you actually see beat officers). There is no need for cops in Bolton to have flash BMW's and high performance cars. Leave them cars for the motorway cops, there are far simpler ways to catch a car thief these days without the need for road races. Hence why the police have the 'Stinger' and other tools in their arsenals. It is high time the police started to do a spot of budgeting to keep their workforce that IS a MORAL and SOCIAL need. Look people to catch a criminal you need the law on your side of course, but the law too is guilty of being very wasteful with budgets. A Fiesta 1.3 will do just as well at catching a car thief in Bolton as the BMW's. Jeez the police have a hold off policy or they are supposed to do when chasing/tailing stolen cars. The only police that need high performance cars are those on the motorways. Don't get me wrong, this is not a direct go at the police, this is also down to government cuts, but as I say... cut out the bling and get back on the beat. MONEY SAVED... JOBS SAVED!
The local policing Division doesn't use high powered vehicles - these are specialist GMP units deployed into the borough for specif operations. Our local police use more modest patrol vehicles suited to routine duties. The vast majority of the policing budget is spent on staff, not vehicles.
[quote][p][bold]Beyond News Forum[/bold] wrote: People people, another one of those.... OOooooooo bleed your heart out for the police reports. In town police only need very simple vehicles to support their foot units (whenever you actually see beat officers). There is no need for cops in Bolton to have flash BMW's and high performance cars. Leave them cars for the motorway cops, there are far simpler ways to catch a car thief these days without the need for road races. Hence why the police have the 'Stinger' and other tools in their arsenals. It is high time the police started to do a spot of budgeting to keep their workforce that IS a MORAL and SOCIAL need. Look people to catch a criminal you need the law on your side of course, but the law too is guilty of being very wasteful with budgets. A Fiesta 1.3 will do just as well at catching a car thief in Bolton as the BMW's. Jeez the police have a hold off policy or they are supposed to do when chasing/tailing stolen cars. The only police that need high performance cars are those on the motorways. Don't get me wrong, this is not a direct go at the police, this is also down to government cuts, but as I say... cut out the bling and get back on the beat. MONEY SAVED... JOBS SAVED![/p][/quote]The local policing Division doesn't use high powered vehicles - these are specialist GMP units deployed into the borough for specif operations. Our local police use more modest patrol vehicles suited to routine duties. The vast majority of the policing budget is spent on staff, not vehicles. PhilipADavies

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