Household waste bins to be emptied every two weeks
8:06am Wednesday 13th February 2013 in Local
BOLTON’S weekly bin collections look set to be scrapped in favour of fortnightly rounds after Town Hall bosses approved the plans.
Councillors gave the changes the go ahead at a cabinet meeting — despite an 11th hour attempt by the Conservative Group to save weekly collections.
The decision came as the cabinet approved plans to increase council tax by 3.5 per cent and cut a further 50 jobs to save £8.8 million.
In the next two years, Bolton Council must save £43.6 million.
Under the new bin system, which will save £2.6 million a year, people will receive a food waste container, that will be collected weekly.
Grey bins, for household waste, and recycling bins will be collected on alternate weeks.
The council believes the new system will increase recycling and save money.
But the Tories said it is removing the one “universal service” that the council provides to all residents, and presented an alternative plan to the cabinet. It would see £2.2 million from reserves being used to give residents smaller 140 litre capacity bins to replace their 240 litre bins, which could then be sold for an estimated £200,000. The smaller bins would be collected each week but their size would encourage residents to recycle.
Cllr Andy Morgan said: “People are looking at having a 3.5 per cent council tax increase but at the same time we are going to reduce the one service that everybody benefits from.
“We offered an alternative, to keep the weekly collections for people.”
The executive dismissed the Conservative’s plans and passed the proposal.
It will now go before the full council on February 20 and will be rolled out across the borough in April.
A consultation on the plans, carried out between September and November, 2012, revealed 72 per cent of residents thought the change would have little or no impact on their household.
Bolton Council’s executive cabinet member for environment, Cllr Nick Peel, said: “Moving to managed weekly collections will save money, increase the recycling rate and we hope will also have minimal or no impact for the majority of residents in Bolton.”
To order a free recycling container, visit bolton.gov.uk or email wasteandrecycling@bolton.
gov.uk or call 01204 336632
Comments(100)
ziggyboo22
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9:00am Wed 13 Feb 13
Boltonresident2012
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9:23am Wed 13 Feb 13
irwell1 wrote:Please talk for yourself in this and not for all of us. Most people I know are used to the small bins - and use them!
I think most of us will simply to continue to put food waste into the grey bin with the rest of the household rubbish. The reality is that hardly anyone separates their food waste into those silly containers we were given a while ago. To just say increasing recycling is the answer is so narrow minded. The real culprits are the Supermarkets and food packaging industries who continue to use unnecessary packaging. So Council Tax going up and more services taken away, well done to our Labour run council, they really are the party of the people aren't they.
Last time they had 2 weekly collections it was a disaster, however this time, hopefully the grey bins will not stink in summer - sooner or later the bins will be coded - as tried elsewhere and people who put the lot together will be fined anyway.
Brumas
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9:27am Wed 13 Feb 13
Secondly, would some one run the whole thing past me again, or is it a case of "The Kings new suit". Please explain to me how money can be saved? If the council employ the same number of operators (I hope they do) and there are weekly collections of one kind or another every week. Mileage same each week, wages same each week, pray tell what have I missed.
tony000
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9:37am Wed 13 Feb 13
Moodymai
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9:52am Wed 13 Feb 13
dangaw
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10:00am Wed 13 Feb 13
Johnny_Boom
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10:14am Wed 13 Feb 13
As long as residents are willing to make the effort and separate their recycling and are aware of when their different bins need to be put out, then I can't see any problems with these changes to rubbish collections in Bolton.
There have been none of the deluded issues of vermin, bad smells and fly tipping near me... these sensationalist arguments & concerns tend to be lazily wheeled out by those who are not willing to particpate and want these initiatives to fail.
Mossage82
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10:31am Wed 13 Feb 13
georgethebrave
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11:04am Wed 13 Feb 13
trish1975
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11:06am Wed 13 Feb 13
If they want to save some money only collect recycle bins once a month, i dont know anyone who fills one of these bins up in a fortnight.
trish1975
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11:14am Wed 13 Feb 13
We have a grey one a red one and a cream one.
Bolton5
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11:24am Wed 13 Feb 13
Puffin-Billy
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11:34am Wed 13 Feb 13
that would concentrate the mind.
The solution to the waste problem is:
stop manufacturing it,
stop selling it,
stop buying it.
But our governments both local and national are at the beck and call of those supermarkets etc.
who sell waste,
and those who dispose of it
-all at our expense.
When will we ever learn?
steveG
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11:36am Wed 13 Feb 13
exboard
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11:45am Wed 13 Feb 13
All my locally purchased fruit and veg comes in recyclable paper bags.
boltonnut
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12:05pm Wed 13 Feb 13
boltoncity
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1:00pm Wed 13 Feb 13
Rememberscarborough
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1:09pm Wed 13 Feb 13
hoboh2o
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1:17pm Wed 13 Feb 13
You have been warned Morris!
macca1411
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1:29pm Wed 13 Feb 13
Percentages mean nothing unless they can be backed up with actual figures. How many people completed the survey? How many people couldn't be bothered to complete the survey because the council had already made up it's mind? What is the breakdown of the people who completed the survey, eg areas, age, ethnicity, low, middle, upper class.
The council need to provide more information to the people who elected them to act on their behalf, and they were elected to act in the electorates best interests. Hope these councillors can scam enough in bonuses and expenses so that they have a nice little nest egg for when they lose their seat at the next local election.
It's time the residents of Bolton stood up to be counted rather than just accepting whatever the Town Hall says.
wagstaff
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3:34pm Wed 13 Feb 13
well done MR morris sense at last
hazdbfs
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3:51pm Wed 13 Feb 13
Wigan Trotter
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4:24pm Wed 13 Feb 13
Love Bolton
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4:41pm Wed 13 Feb 13
- recycle everything we can
- only buy what we will use
- shop at bolton market so very little packaging
It's quite easy really. Don't know what all the fuss is about.
In terms of bins, I think we could share our recyling bins with neighbours and have one or two between us if we had no space for our own of every colour.
Count de Monet
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4:44pm Wed 13 Feb 13
wagstaff wrote:Fine until there is 2 inches of snow on the ground on your rubbish collection day and you have to wait a further 2 weeks for your bin to be emptied.
every 2 weeks is fine by me, we only have one bin and can get away with it being emptyed every 3 weeks,
well done MR morris sense at last
Dirk59
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7:51pm Wed 13 Feb 13
SmoggyDiasboro
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8:28pm Wed 13 Feb 13
irwell1
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8:53pm Wed 13 Feb 13
hoboh2o wrote:Spot on. Yes the Labour Party used it to get in power then go back on their promises. Why do people vote Labour?
Why did the Lib-Dem’s get the boot from office? Ahhhh just remembered it was fortnightly bin collections. Anyone remember that top female Lib-Dem council leader commenting she could not believe how narrow minded the electorate were to vote them out over this, remember Morris and his 'never on our watch will the bins remain un-emptied for a fortnight'.
You have been warned Morris!
Mossage82
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8:59pm Wed 13 Feb 13
steveG wrote:No, absolutely not. Landfill tax is currently £64 PER TONNE ! Believe me when I say it is in no ones interest for domestic waste to end up in landfill. And it doesn't, nor does the recyclate.
Don't all the bins contents finish up in landfill anyway?.
hoboh2o
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9:31pm Wed 13 Feb 13
Dirk59 wrote:Fine but a portion of my 'council tax' bill is for refuse removal, ie I put out my refuse it gets removed it is not up to me to stand by my bins and wonder if x plastic wrapping is the right chemical content for y bin or when is a foil container not a foil container. I pay my money, BMBC shift it and if they want me to sort it for recycling they PAY ME or employ people to do it. While we are on the subject why have BMBC got the monopoly on household waste removal?
A very sensible saving, going to fortnightly grey bin emptying. I only put mine out fortnightly anyway, as I make sure I'm recycling and use the other bins provided. If some folk are filling their grey bins to the top on a weekly basis, then they need to look at their lifestyle and / or their own recycling habits, as they must be gettin' it wrong somewhere!
omg133
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9:44pm Wed 13 Feb 13
Trish & wagstaff you are dead right
this town applied for city status... yeh .... we cant even empty ppls sh!t
angus macoatup
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9:49pm Wed 13 Feb 13
trish1975 wrote:well said old chap
Are Bolton council totally stupid, they have already tried this once and it did not work at all, people had lots of extra rubbish bags that the bin men would not take because they were not in the bins, and flytipping increased all over bolton.
If they want to save some money only collect recycle bins once a month, i dont know anyone who fills one of these bins up in a fortnight.
omg133
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9:49pm Wed 13 Feb 13
Mossage82 wrote:sorry , i work 6 days a week , can you collect mine?
Don't forget your local household waste recycling centre is open 7 days a week as well if you need it.
omg133
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9:53pm Wed 13 Feb 13
Mossage82
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10:01pm Wed 13 Feb 13
omg133 wrote:Well if your spending so much time at work you won't be producing much domestic waste at home then will you ?!
Mossage82 wrote:sorry , i work 6 days a week , can you collect mine?
Don't forget your local household waste recycling centre is open 7 days a week as well if you need it.
csw1970
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10:04pm Wed 13 Feb 13
Twice this year my bin has failed to be emptied due to crews 'overlooking' my street. The response..... They will collect an extra two black bin liners next time!!!
This situation will result in my family of 5 plus pets having to use one dustbin plus two bin liners every four weeks. Its ridiculous, there will be rubbish dumped everywhere where there are no cameras and rats will be rife.
Oh sorry, I forgot we're going to get another ridiculous grey pot for food waste to adorn our kitchens. Unfortunately we cannot all afford the house with enough space to hide it!!!!!
omg133
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10:09pm Wed 13 Feb 13
Surely .
50% of big wagons must be sold as we dont need them reducing transport & repiar costs
50% of the binmen Must go ( not required )
end of the day ... you have these sources in place But no longer needed weekly & it can only save on diesel
you cant save money if you a paying wages and costs still for the above !!! Fact
Sack em !!! & sell em ,
omg133
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10:11pm Wed 13 Feb 13
Mossage82 wrote:yeh,,its called life....get 1
omg133 wrote:Well if your spending so much time at work you won't be producing much domestic waste at home then will you ?!
Mossage82 wrote:sorry , i work 6 days a week , can you collect mine?
Don't forget your local household waste recycling centre is open 7 days a week as well if you need it.
Mossage82
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10:19pm Wed 13 Feb 13
omg133
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10:28pm Wed 13 Feb 13
Mossage82 wrote:listen,, you go save the planet on your 1 man crusade ,, its called working and paying taxes,,probably supporting you !
ha haaa ! How much of a life do you get in with your 1 day off a week ?!
big johnny
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10:32pm Wed 13 Feb 13
Mossage82
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10:34pm Wed 13 Feb 13
omg133
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10:39pm Wed 13 Feb 13
Mossage82 wrote:if only that was true...couple of back to work programs does'nt count ...Tesco's beware we are talking " multi " here
OMG... how wrong you are ! I am 30 years old and have been in full time employment for the last 14 years. Ive paid more in taxes than some multinational companies !!
Dirk59
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10:39pm Wed 13 Feb 13
angus macoatup wrote:No ... some won't fill their recycling bins in a fortnight, and have their grey one overflowing within a week, but that's because they're probably not recycling properly, or ' can't be bothered '. Yes, Bolton Council tried fortnightly grey bin collections before ...and they should have carried on with it too! Some folk are just too plain lazy to sort their waste, and probably just dump it all in the grey one, because they know it gets emptied more often. You could give some houses 10 grey bins, and they'd still fill 'em every week LOL
trish1975 wrote: Are Bolton council totally stupid, they have already tried this once and it did not work at all, people had lots of extra rubbish bags that the bin men would not take because they were not in the bins, and flytipping increased all over bolton. If they want to save some money only collect recycle bins once a month, i dont know anyone who fills one of these bins up in a fortnight.well said old chap
One grey bin, emptied fortnightly, should be sufficient for the overwhelming majority of households, so why should we spend resources on weekly collections, just for the few who can't be bothered to sort their waste properly?
omg133
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10:40pm Wed 13 Feb 13
omg133
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11:07pm Wed 13 Feb 13
Dirk59 wrote:ok,,,
angus macoatup wrote:No ... some won't fill their recycling bins in a fortnight, and have their grey one overflowing within a week, but that's because they're probably not recycling properly, or ' can't be bothered '. Yes, Bolton Council tried fortnightly grey bin collections before ...and they should have carried on with it too! Some folk are just too plain lazy to sort their waste, and probably just dump it all in the grey one, because they know it gets emptied more often. You could give some houses 10 grey bins, and they'd still fill 'em every week LOL
trish1975 wrote: Are Bolton council totally stupid, they have already tried this once and it did not work at all, people had lots of extra rubbish bags that the bin men would not take because they were not in the bins, and flytipping increased all over bolton. If they want to save some money only collect recycle bins once a month, i dont know anyone who fills one of these bins up in a fortnight.well said old chap
One grey bin, emptied fortnightly, should be sufficient for the overwhelming majority of households, so why should we spend resources on weekly collections, just for the few who can't be bothered to sort their waste properly?
so how do you account for large famlies in bolton in some areas's with say 8 members ?
Dirk59
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12:24am Thu 14 Feb 13
omg133 wrote:Give 'em 2 grey bins ...and an appointment at the Family Planning Clinic ;-)
Dirk59 wrote:ok,,, so how do you account for large famlies in bolton in some areas's with say 8 members ?angus macoatup wrote:No ... some won't fill their recycling bins in a fortnight, and have their grey one overflowing within a week, but that's because they're probably not recycling properly, or ' can't be bothered '. Yes, Bolton Council tried fortnightly grey bin collections before ...and they should have carried on with it too! Some folk are just too plain lazy to sort their waste, and probably just dump it all in the grey one, because they know it gets emptied more often. You could give some houses 10 grey bins, and they'd still fill 'em every week LOL One grey bin, emptied fortnightly, should be sufficient for the overwhelming majority of households, so why should we spend resources on weekly collections, just for the few who can't be bothered to sort their waste properly?trish1975 wrote: Are Bolton council totally stupid, they have already tried this once and it did not work at all, people had lots of extra rubbish bags that the bin men would not take because they were not in the bins, and flytipping increased all over bolton. If they want to save some money only collect recycle bins once a month, i dont know anyone who fills one of these bins up in a fortnight.well said old chap
BWFC71
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12:51am Thu 14 Feb 13
Where I live there has been very little increase in local tax (less than 3% over last 4 years) - council services have not dimished, in fact they have increased - new schools, new libraries, more funding for local transport, roads are in tip-top condition and they try to stage a "community" town centre event at least twice a month and as for bins they are collected (both recycled and non-recycled) twice a week and are looking at plans to increase to 3 times a week. As for number of bins - we have 3 (regular waste, recyclable material and bottles)
it is about time Bolton Council started looking at other areas on how to improve services without job cuts or tax rises!!!!
fitz108
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1:18am Thu 14 Feb 13
omg133 wrote:Why already having closed union road, and blackrod due to close are they not keeping these open to encourage people to take their rubbish to these places
Mossage82 wrote:sorry , i work 6 days a week , can you collect mine?
Don't forget your local household waste recycling centre is open 7 days a week as well if you need it.
Does not make sense, but nothing does where bolton council are concerned
Wigan Trotter
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8:11am Thu 14 Feb 13
irwell1
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8:36am Thu 14 Feb 13
Boltonresident2012 wrote:You seem to have a problem with reality. It's a hard fact that most people will scrape their leftovers straight in the bin with the rest of the household rubbish. Do you realise that most of us have a Green wheelie bin so that means the food waste would only be collected EVERY TWO WEEKS. The two faced Labour Councillors don't advertise that much do they?
irwell1 wrote:Please talk for yourself in this and not for all of us. Most people I know are used to the small bins - and use them!
I think most of us will simply to continue to put food waste into the grey bin with the rest of the household rubbish. The reality is that hardly anyone separates their food waste into those silly containers we were given a while ago. To just say increasing recycling is the answer is so narrow minded. The real culprits are the Supermarkets and food packaging industries who continue to use unnecessary packaging. So Council Tax going up and more services taken away, well done to our Labour run council, they really are the party of the people aren't they.
Last time they had 2 weekly collections it was a disaster, however this time, hopefully the grey bins will not stink in summer - sooner or later the bins will be coded - as tried elsewhere and people who put the lot together will be fined anyway.
yonmons
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9:04am Thu 14 Feb 13
Boltonresident2012
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10:18am Thu 14 Feb 13
irwell1 wrote:You have your reality, I have mine
Boltonresident2012 wrote:You seem to have a problem with reality. It's a hard fact that most people will scrape their leftovers straight in the bin with the rest of the household rubbish. Do you realise that most of us have a Green wheelie bin so that means the food waste would only be collected EVERY TWO WEEKS. The two faced Labour Councillors don't advertise that much do they?
irwell1 wrote:Please talk for yourself in this and not for all of us. Most people I know are used to the small bins - and use them!
I think most of us will simply to continue to put food waste into the grey bin with the rest of the household rubbish. The reality is that hardly anyone separates their food waste into those silly containers we were given a while ago. To just say increasing recycling is the answer is so narrow minded. The real culprits are the Supermarkets and food packaging industries who continue to use unnecessary packaging. So Council Tax going up and more services taken away, well done to our Labour run council, they really are the party of the people aren't they.
Last time they had 2 weekly collections it was a disaster, however this time, hopefully the grey bins will not stink in summer - sooner or later the bins will be coded - as tried elsewhere and people who put the lot together will be fined anyway.
Kayj21
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11:15am Thu 14 Feb 13
dan422
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11:20am Thu 14 Feb 13
We have had fortnightly collections here for almost 10 years with no problem whatsoever. With a garden waste/paper/bottle collection every alernate week our non-recycled bin even after 2 weeks is rarely full even with 3 children in thehosehold. You just get smarter at what you recycle - surprisingly little is actually un-recyclable.
Marzi30
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11:35am Thu 14 Feb 13
irwell1
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12:15pm Thu 14 Feb 13
Marzi30 wrote:Excellent post. Thankfully more and more people are cottoning on that Labour are just the Tories with red rosettes. I believe you can stand as an independent Councillor simply by getting in touch with Electoral Services at the Town Hall, and to start your own Party is also fairly straight forward by getting in touch with the Electoral Commission (Google them) and they will send all the details and paperwork. As you say, it's not about bins, it's about lies.
I wonder how many people who contribute to these forums actually bother to vote at the Council elections, and if so just vote Labour because it's all they know. Something radical has to happen to remove these idiots from local power. They refer to "surveys' yet I've yet to meet one person who has actually filled one in, yet alone received one. Our bestowed leader Cllr Doris harps on about how Bolton is holding it's own in the current recession hit climate, does he not look out of the window from his ivory tower at the Town Hall to see what a dump the Town is becoming ? Does anybody know how difficult it is to start an independent local political party to wrestle power away from these buffoons and get local people with local issues at their heart to stand against elected Labour Councillors in their respective areas ? Surely in this day and age of social networking and electronic media there must be something that local townsfolk can do to challenge this status quo ? Ideas anyone ?
Wigan Trotter
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2:30pm Thu 14 Feb 13
It's the same in Wigan, and I suspect every local authority area.
Sad people who need to get a life.
PeteRy
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4:27pm Thu 14 Feb 13
Marzi30
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7:17pm Thu 14 Feb 13
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irwell1
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7:38pm Thu 14 Feb 13
Boltonresident2012 wrote:From above, "Last time they had 2 weekly collections it was a disaster, however this time, hopefully the grey bins will not stink in summer."
irwell1 wrote:Please talk for yourself in this and not for all of us. Most people I know are used to the small bins - and use them!
I think most of us will simply to continue to put food waste into the grey bin with the rest of the household rubbish. The reality is that hardly anyone separates their food waste into those silly containers we were given a while ago. To just say increasing recycling is the answer is so narrow minded. The real culprits are the Supermarkets and food packaging industries who continue to use unnecessary packaging. So Council Tax going up and more services taken away, well done to our Labour run council, they really are the party of the people aren't they.
Last time they had 2 weekly collections it was a disaster, however this time, hopefully the grey bins will not stink in summer - sooner or later the bins will be coded - as tried elsewhere and people who put the lot together will be fined anyway.
For goodness sake, they are actually asking us to put food into the large GREEN bins which will be collected every TWO weeks, please understand that they are trying to keep a lid on this fact.
Also I simply cannot believe you are happy with having your bin microchipped, are you actually serious?
SeptemberGirl
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10:19pm Thu 14 Feb 13
Mossage82
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11:50pm Thu 14 Feb 13
fitz108 wrote:It is a shame that some sites are closing but they need too much spending on them to bring them up to current regulations. It is nothing to do with Bolton MBC, it is the Greater Manchester Waste Disposal Authority which controls this.
omg133 wrote:Why already having closed union road, and blackrod due to close are they not keeping these open to encourage people to take their rubbish to these places
Mossage82 wrote:sorry , i work 6 days a week , can you collect mine?
Don't forget your local household waste recycling centre is open 7 days a week as well if you need it.
Does not make sense, but nothing does where bolton council are concerned
Wigan Trotter
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6:54am Fri 15 Feb 13
No, it's about some people always moaning about bins, gritting or some other petty issue and others like yourself, who support a different political party using the issues to have a swipe at the party in power when the party you support would be no different, if elected.
Why do think many are fed up with politic's and politician's, many of whom are only in it for what they can get out of it!
hoboh2o
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8:17am Fri 15 Feb 13
SeptemberGirl wrote:You only born last September? The reason I ask it was tried before and failed, Morris and his mafia lied to gain power saying under Labour there would always be a weekly bin collection now they find bus stations and other projects to throw cash at. (Btw the town centre one way system ain't been ditched yet merely put on hold, you know were cars go one way and busses and taxi's the other)
There is absolutely no need for weekly bin collections it good to see the council putting this in place. Other local authorities have tried and tested it and ultimately it saves money. People moaning need to actually give it a try first and I'm pretty sure for 99% of people it won't be a problem. People seem to think that their waste is the councils responsibility!! It is actually A very small amount of council tax that goes towards waste collections. If you're not prepared to recycle then you should struggle!
irwell1
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8:23am Fri 15 Feb 13
SeptemberGirl wrote:It's quite an effort to fit so much nonsense into such a few short sentences.
There is absolutely no need for weekly bin collections it good to see the council putting this in place. Other local authorities have tried and tested it and ultimately it saves money. People moaning need to actually give it a try first and I'm pretty sure for 99% of people it won't be a problem. People seem to think that their waste is the councils responsibility!! It is actually A very small amount of council tax that goes towards waste collections. If you're not prepared to recycle then you should struggle!
There is a need for weekly collections because we pay for it and it stops maggots and vermin being attracted to the area. Other local authorities may have tried it but so what? Do you have any facts to support your claim it saves money?
you say 99% of people won't have a problem with this, you have a short memory.
Waste collection is the council's responsibility, whenever it's collected.
Who cares how much Council Tax goes towards waste collection, the fact is rotting food should not be left anywhere for two weeks.
I probably recycle more than you. The fact is the Supermarkets and food packaging industries create too much unnecessary packaging.
Wigan Trotter
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8:35am Fri 15 Feb 13
Some, it would appear is still in the mouth.
For goodness sake, get a life!
yonmons
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8:52am Fri 15 Feb 13
tinypet
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9:42am Fri 15 Feb 13
irwell1
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10:07am Fri 15 Feb 13
Wigan Trotter wrote:You included it seems.
Judging by some of the comments on here, not all the rubbish is in the bins.
Some, it would appear is still in the mouth.
For goodness sake, get a life!
irwell1
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10:19am Fri 15 Feb 13
tinypet wrote:We too put all our unused fruit and veg (not much i have to say) in the green bin, but they actually want us to put all our food waste into it as well, chicken carcasses, the bolognese leftovers etc everything. And this will be in there for up to TWO weeks, they are trying to keep a low profile about this.
correct me if im wrong here, the green bins we could put fresh unused fruit and potatoe peelings in with the garden waste. Yet when i did this and placed it out, they didnt empty it, i was told when i rang it was contaminated. HOW? id only put in what they had said we could. I recycle and still fill the grey bin in a week. (family of 7) and before any trys to slate me, yes we both work full time on decent incomes!
Also as other people are saying on here, most of the current Labour councillors have been voted in because they promised NEVER to go to fortnightly, but have now double-crossed everyone.
Derbyshire White
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10:52am Fri 15 Feb 13
When it first started in our area about two years ago, I had the same misgivings that a lot of your correspondents seem to have. However they have proved to be unfounded. True, it takes a little more effort to recycle, but our bins are never filled to overflowing like they used to be.
We have a green bin (garden rubbish and peelings, dry food waste etc), and a brown bin for cardboard, paper and tins and a separate crate for glass which are all collected one week, and a black bin for everything else which is collected the next week.
The only thing we don't recycle is cooked food waste (chicken bones for example) which just go straight in to the black bin.
We have not had any problems with our council. We thought would not be able to cope with the collections. This has proved to be unfounded - if they miss a collection for any reason (usually the snow in this part of the world), they simply catch up a.s.a.p.
We no longer have the problems with bin bags ripped open by marauding dogs, cats or urban foxes etc that we used to have.
The main problem with the bins is not one of collection, but storage. People with little or no land tend to leave them out on the footpath, which causes an obstruction for pedestrians and especially pram and wheelchair users. Usually, the same thoughtless idiots who cannot be bothered to recycle are the same ones who leave their bins lying around everwhere.
All it takes is a little bit of thought, and the system works well.
wagstaff
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11:33am Fri 15 Feb 13
omg133 wrote:MORE THAN WELCOME OMG 133
sorry not Wagstaff , i will be dumping my bags in your quarter filled bin
roadkillking
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12:01pm Fri 15 Feb 13
Albinosupport
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1:04pm Fri 15 Feb 13
rostron
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2:56pm Fri 15 Feb 13
Also been quoted about people obstructing pathways with bins,denying access to pushchairs etc, Well, tell the binmen that, as its a slalom course when they have left bins all over !
Wigan Trotter
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5:41pm Fri 15 Feb 13
I have!
JustBecause
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7:08pm Fri 15 Feb 13
atlas123
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7:18pm Fri 15 Feb 13
Get a grip people if the rest of the country copes I'm sure Bolton can.
ALI MINIUM KHAN
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10:57pm Fri 15 Feb 13
BWFC71
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11:19pm Fri 15 Feb 13
atlas123 wrote:Not quite sure, but I do know that vermin eat their way into base of rubbish bins - and thats how vermin get in that way which then leads to maggots and then flies - now try a couple of weeks in decent temperature and then you will begin to smell the rubbish (as its natural due to the decaying process!). Also leads to an increase in vermin such as urban foxes who can actually knock over the bins - and also have you read/seen the news this week about an urban fox attacking a young baby??? (that was in an area of collections of every 2 weeks!!! - the smell attract the vermin due to teh vermins more acute sense of smell!)
My grey bin goes out less than once a month as it never gets full. It rarely smells... I have no virmin... How is vormin going to get into the bins?
Get a grip people if the rest of the country copes I'm sure Bolton can.
Wigan Trotter
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7:03am Sat 16 Feb 13
p..s. A bit rich for someone with a name like Ali Minium Khan to accuse others of having a second job.
BWFC71
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10:12am Sat 16 Feb 13
roadkillking wrote:But how is reducing a weekly collection to a fortnightly collection going to save money when you still have to pay the same number of crew members, still pay the insurance and upkeep of the vehicles, still pay for the fuel, Vehicle duty, etc, still have to pay rent for the land on which the trucks are stored, still ahve to pay 3rd party companies for various functions....
since my wife, me and two young kids moved to our current home two years ago, our bin collection is: week1 grey bin, week 2 cream bin, week3 grey bin,week 4 red bin. we recycle as much as possible and always manage . the only frustrating thing is houses a few hundred yards away get the full works! at the end of the day councils need to save money.
I see no saving whatsoever, in fact I see wastage in the finances!!! (pardon the pun)
irwell1
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10:55am Sat 16 Feb 13
BWFC71 wrote:Well spotted BWFC71. They are trying to say it will save money by less going into landfill, but people are already recycling whatever they can. They say we are putting too much food waste into the grey bins, BUT THEY HAVE NO FACTS TO SUPPORT THIS. It's basically the two faced Labour Party wanting to fall in line with other local authorities.
roadkillking wrote:But how is reducing a weekly collection to a fortnightly collection going to save money when you still have to pay the same number of crew members, still pay the insurance and upkeep of the vehicles, still pay for the fuel, Vehicle duty, etc, still have to pay rent for the land on which the trucks are stored, still ahve to pay 3rd party companies for various functions....
since my wife, me and two young kids moved to our current home two years ago, our bin collection is: week1 grey bin, week 2 cream bin, week3 grey bin,week 4 red bin. we recycle as much as possible and always manage . the only frustrating thing is houses a few hundred yards away get the full works! at the end of the day councils need to save money.
I see no saving whatsoever, in fact I see wastage in the finances!!! (pardon the pun)
BWFC71
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4:25pm Sat 16 Feb 13
atlas123
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8:51am Sun 17 Feb 13
Rememberscarborough wrote:Break it up or put it straight in the green bin
Any suggestions about where to shove an unwanted turkey carcass at Christmas will be gratefully received because they surely won't fit in to one of those little boxes....
Denis Tuborg
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12:43pm Sun 17 Feb 13
lip service paid to public consultation(check) cue council rubber stamp fornightly refuse collection (check)
Increase in vermin and maggot infestation (check) increase in fly tipping (check) Increase in number of verbal and physical assaults on refuse collection staff for refusing to take excess waste (check).
This is a retograde step, it didn't work the last time and I doubt this time will be any different.
Denis Tuborg
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12:43pm Sun 17 Feb 13
lip service paid to public consultation(check) cue council rubber stamp fornightly refuse collection (check)
Increase in vermin and maggot infestation (check) increase in fly tipping (check) Increase in number of verbal and physical assaults on refuse collection staff for refusing to take excess waste (check).
This is a retograde step, it didn't work the last time and I doubt this time will be any different.
Jesusislord
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11:36am Tue 19 Feb 13
georgethebrave wrote:It is exactly like Saddam's Iraq!! Remember the famous gassing of Johnson Fold a few years ago, and of course the illegal invasion of Wigan, and the torture in the police cells!! Of course in Iraq they fought back when Saddam tried to change the bin collections....
So our services are cut, council tax is increasing and the only people who don't lose out are the town hall chiefs like Asquith who have all had pay rises recently? Bolton is now running in parallel with Saddam's Iraq, the people starved while he lavished himself with palaces with gold taps! Us and them scenario which needs sorting in the next election's, get rid of the fat greedy pigs with their snouts in the trough!
Jesusislord
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11:39am Tue 19 Feb 13
boltonnut wrote:Don't worry! A trite comment on an insignificant website is unlikely to cause a stink anywhere.
The bins will be emptied every two weeks,except,when there is inclement weather,providing all the wheels are attached,the bins are placed in the EXACT location,the bin man doesn't have a bad back and the moon is in the same ascendary as Venus. Sorry I don't mean to cause a stink.
Jesusislord
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11:46am Tue 19 Feb 13
irwell1 wrote:Who knows?? It's nice to see the Tories finally getting England back to its rioty / recessiony best. And they're giving us millionaires £40,000 off our taxes in April while cutting council budgets. I like to call the Tories the 'sensible' party....
hoboh2o wrote:Spot on. Yes the Labour Party used it to get in power then go back on their promises. Why do people vote Labour?
Why did the Lib-Dem’s get the boot from office? Ahhhh just remembered it was fortnightly bin collections. Anyone remember that top female Lib-Dem council leader commenting she could not believe how narrow minded the electorate were to vote them out over this, remember Morris and his 'never on our watch will the bins remain un-emptied for a fortnight'.
You have been warned Morris!
Jesusislord
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11:52am Tue 19 Feb 13
omg133 wrote:Maybe if you learnt how to use punctuation and capital letters, you might be able to get a job where you only have to work 5 days a week? Just saying.
Mossage82 wrote:listen,, you go save the planet on your 1 man crusade ,, its called working and paying taxes,,probably supporting you !
ha haaa ! How much of a life do you get in with your 1 day off a week ?!
Jesusislord
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11:58am Tue 19 Feb 13
Kayj21 wrote:They're having a go at witches now?? This is spiraling out of control. But you're right, they should reduce other services. Like, I pay tax for schools, but I don't have kids. So let's cut some schools, but not bins. How does the council not GET IT?????
Where are we to put an extra bin in most of the gardens in Bolton. I can't fit another in. It's a disgrace that the council tax is rising yet they are reducing a service witch is needed.
Jesusislord
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12:06pm Tue 19 Feb 13
BWFC71 wrote:It's this kind of well-informed comment that I come to this website for...
atlas123 wrote:Not quite sure, but I do know that vermin eat their way into base of rubbish bins - and thats how vermin get in that way which then leads to maggots and then flies - now try a couple of weeks in decent temperature and then you will begin to smell the rubbish (as its natural due to the decaying process!). Also leads to an increase in vermin such as urban foxes who can actually knock over the bins - and also have you read/seen the news this week about an urban fox attacking a young baby??? (that was in an area of collections of every 2 weeks!!! - the smell attract the vermin due to teh vermins more acute sense of smell!)
My grey bin goes out less than once a month as it never gets full. It rarely smells... I have no virmin... How is vormin going to get into the bins?
Get a grip people if the rest of the country copes I'm sure Bolton can.
Jesusislord
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12:11pm Tue 19 Feb 13
Denis Tuborg wrote:Hi Denis mate, you forgot "bit of moaning by ill-informed people on Bolton News website (check)". I loved your "increase in physical assaults on refuse staff". That's genius. There's nowt more likely cause a fight than refusing to collect an old chair on bin day!! By the way, what's a retograde?? Anything like retrograde?
Public consultation (check), 8000 surveys sent out only 2000 returned, (check) 72% of those returned say they would not be effected by the managed weekly collection!(check) Majority of Bolton public in favour of fortnightly collection (check)
lip service paid to public consultation(check) cue council rubber stamp fornightly refuse collection (check)
Increase in vermin and maggot infestation (check) increase in fly tipping (check) Increase in number of verbal and physical assaults on refuse collection staff for refusing to take excess waste (check).
This is a retograde step, it didn't work the last time and I doubt this time will be any different.
BWFC71
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2:18pm Tue 19 Feb 13
Jesusislord wrote:I am grateful for your feedback and I am glad you like my work, which is all factually correct.
BWFC71 wrote:It's this kind of well-informed comment that I come to this website for...
atlas123 wrote:Not quite sure, but I do know that vermin eat their way into base of rubbish bins - and thats how vermin get in that way which then leads to maggots and then flies - now try a couple of weeks in decent temperature and then you will begin to smell the rubbish (as its natural due to the decaying process!). Also leads to an increase in vermin such as urban foxes who can actually knock over the bins - and also have you read/seen the news this week about an urban fox attacking a young baby??? (that was in an area of collections of every 2 weeks!!! - the smell attract the vermin due to teh vermins more acute sense of smell!)
My grey bin goes out less than once a month as it never gets full. It rarely smells... I have no virmin... How is vormin going to get into the bins?
Get a grip people if the rest of the country copes I'm sure Bolton can.
FACT: Where bins have gone down to fortnightly there has been increased numbers of urban foxes
FACT: Where bins have gone fortnightly there has been an increase number of rats and other vermin
FACT: Where bins have gone fortnightly, during hot spells the smell of decaying rubbbish is at its highest (just think of a smell of a tip during summer months and thats whats happening in your bin)
FACT: Going fortnightly does not save a penny for the council, infact its wasting money due to crews and machinery not being deployed properly and teh cost of operating actually increases and not decreases!!!
hoboh2o
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4:06pm Tue 19 Feb 13
Jesusislord wrote:Always one is there not?
Denis Tuborg wrote:Hi Denis mate, you forgot "bit of moaning by ill-informed people on Bolton News website (check)". I loved your "increase in physical assaults on refuse staff". That's genius. There's nowt more likely cause a fight than refusing to collect an old chair on bin day!! By the way, what's a retograde?? Anything like retrograde?
Public consultation (check), 8000 surveys sent out only 2000 returned, (check) 72% of those returned say they would not be effected by the managed weekly collection!(check) Majority of Bolton public in favour of fortnightly collection (check)
lip service paid to public consultation(check) cue council rubber stamp fornightly refuse collection (check)
Increase in vermin and maggot infestation (check) increase in fly tipping (check) Increase in number of verbal and physical assaults on refuse collection staff for refusing to take excess waste (check).
This is a retograde step, it didn't work the last time and I doubt this time will be any different.
Welcome to the comment section Mr Morris.
Wigan Trotter
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5:11pm Tue 19 Feb 13
Is there a prize for the most comments from the same person, repeats included.
Jesusislord
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5:13pm Tue 19 Feb 13
hoboh2o wrote:Why thank you kind sir!! Although, technically I'm not one, I'm part of a trinity. Anyway, now we're friends, you can just call me Jesus. Careful how you use it though. The other day I thought someone was shouting me, butt it turned out they'd just stubbed their toe!!
Jesusislord wrote:Always one is there not?
Denis Tuborg wrote:Hi Denis mate, you forgot "bit of moaning by ill-informed people on Bolton News website (check)". I loved your "increase in physical assaults on refuse staff". That's genius. There's nowt more likely cause a fight than refusing to collect an old chair on bin day!! By the way, what's a retograde?? Anything like retrograde?
Public consultation (check), 8000 surveys sent out only 2000 returned, (check) 72% of those returned say they would not be effected by the managed weekly collection!(check) Majority of Bolton public in favour of fortnightly collection (check)
lip service paid to public consultation(check) cue council rubber stamp fornightly refuse collection (check)
Increase in vermin and maggot infestation (check) increase in fly tipping (check) Increase in number of verbal and physical assaults on refuse collection staff for refusing to take excess waste (check).
This is a retograde step, it didn't work the last time and I doubt this time will be any different.
Welcome to the comment section Mr Morris.
Anyway, you don't have to reply. If you just think stuff in your head, I'll hear it, and reply via a little voice in your mind. It's how the whole prayer thing works....
irwell1 says...
8:41am Wed 13 Feb 13