Household waste bins to be emptied every two weeks

8:06am Wednesday 13th February 2013 in Local

BOLTON’S weekly bin collections look set to be scrapped in favour of fortnightly rounds after Town Hall bosses approved the plans.

Councillors gave the changes the go ahead at a cabinet meeting — despite an 11th hour attempt by the Conservative Group to save weekly collections.

The decision came as the cabinet approved plans to increase council tax by 3.5 per cent and cut a further 50 jobs to save £8.8 million.

In the next two years, Bolton Council must save £43.6 million.

Under the new bin system, which will save £2.6 million a year, people will receive a food waste container, that will be collected weekly.

Grey bins, for household waste, and recycling bins will be collected on alternate weeks.

The council believes the new system will increase recycling and save money.

But the Tories said it is removing the one “universal service” that the council provides to all residents, and presented an alternative plan to the cabinet. It would see £2.2 million from reserves being used to give residents smaller 140 litre capacity bins to replace their 240 litre bins, which could then be sold for an estimated £200,000. The smaller bins would be collected each week but their size would encourage residents to recycle.

Cllr Andy Morgan said: “People are looking at having a 3.5 per cent council tax increase but at the same time we are going to reduce the one service that everybody benefits from.

“We offered an alternative, to keep the weekly collections for people.”

The executive dismissed the Conservative’s plans and passed the proposal.

It will now go before the full council on February 20 and will be rolled out across the borough in April.

A consultation on the plans, carried out between September and November, 2012, revealed 72 per cent of residents thought the change would have little or no impact on their household.

Bolton Council’s executive cabinet member for environment, Cllr Nick Peel, said: “Moving to managed weekly collections will save money, increase the recycling rate and we hope will also have minimal or no impact for the majority of residents in Bolton.”

To order a free recycling container, visit bolton.gov.uk or email wasteandrecycling@bolton.

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Comments (100)

8:41am Wed 13 Feb 13

irwell1 says...

I think most of us will simply to continue to put food waste into the grey bin with the rest of the household rubbish. The reality is that hardly anyone separates their food waste into those silly containers we were given a while ago. To just say increasing recycling is the answer is so narrow minded. The real culprits are the Supermarkets and food packaging industries who continue to use unnecessary packaging. So Council Tax going up and more services taken away, well done to our Labour run council, they really are the party of the people aren't they.
I think most of us will simply to continue to put food waste into the grey bin with the rest of the household rubbish. The reality is that hardly anyone separates their food waste into those silly containers we were given a while ago. To just say increasing recycling is the answer is so narrow minded. The real culprits are the Supermarkets and food packaging industries who continue to use unnecessary packaging. So Council Tax going up and more services taken away, well done to our Labour run council, they really are the party of the people aren't they. irwell1

9:00am Wed 13 Feb 13

ziggyboo22 says...

How stupid fly tipping will increase at a cost to the council, and if we have have fortnightly collections i want a reduction in my council tax, for larger familys this will be hell especially in the summer months.
How stupid fly tipping will increase at a cost to the council, and if we have have fortnightly collections i want a reduction in my council tax, for larger familys this will be hell especially in the summer months. ziggyboo22

9:23am Wed 13 Feb 13

Boltonresident2012 says...

irwell1 wrote:
I think most of us will simply to continue to put food waste into the grey bin with the rest of the household rubbish. The reality is that hardly anyone separates their food waste into those silly containers we were given a while ago. To just say increasing recycling is the answer is so narrow minded. The real culprits are the Supermarkets and food packaging industries who continue to use unnecessary packaging. So Council Tax going up and more services taken away, well done to our Labour run council, they really are the party of the people aren't they.
Please talk for yourself in this and not for all of us. Most people I know are used to the small bins - and use them!

Last time they had 2 weekly collections it was a disaster, however this time, hopefully the grey bins will not stink in summer - sooner or later the bins will be coded - as tried elsewhere and people who put the lot together will be fined anyway.
[quote][p][bold]irwell1[/bold] wrote: I think most of us will simply to continue to put food waste into the grey bin with the rest of the household rubbish. The reality is that hardly anyone separates their food waste into those silly containers we were given a while ago. To just say increasing recycling is the answer is so narrow minded. The real culprits are the Supermarkets and food packaging industries who continue to use unnecessary packaging. So Council Tax going up and more services taken away, well done to our Labour run council, they really are the party of the people aren't they.[/p][/quote]Please talk for yourself in this and not for all of us. Most people I know are used to the small bins - and use them! Last time they had 2 weekly collections it was a disaster, however this time, hopefully the grey bins will not stink in summer - sooner or later the bins will be coded - as tried elsewhere and people who put the lot together will be fined anyway. Boltonresident2012

9:27am Wed 13 Feb 13

Brumas says...

Firstly, Waste food? Not at our house. We were brought up during the war years and there was no such thing.
Secondly, would some one run the whole thing past me again, or is it a case of "The Kings new suit". Please explain to me how money can be saved? If the council employ the same number of operators (I hope they do) and there are weekly collections of one kind or another every week. Mileage same each week, wages same each week, pray tell what have I missed.
Firstly, Waste food? Not at our house. We were brought up during the war years and there was no such thing. Secondly, would some one run the whole thing past me again, or is it a case of "The Kings new suit". Please explain to me how money can be saved? If the council employ the same number of operators (I hope they do) and there are weekly collections of one kind or another every week. Mileage same each week, wages same each week, pray tell what have I missed. Brumas

9:37am Wed 13 Feb 13

tony000 says...

this council can waist over 50k on a wrought iron fence .greenroyd ave yet still put taxes up .what a scandle .
this council can waist over 50k on a wrought iron fence .greenroyd ave yet still put taxes up .what a scandle . tony000

9:52am Wed 13 Feb 13

Moodymai says...

It will encourage vermin. We can't manage with fortnightly collections.
It will encourage vermin. We can't manage with fortnightly collections. Moodymai

10:00am Wed 13 Feb 13

dangaw says...

How is it when these so called survey's are done I never see anything to do with them nobody has ever asked me to complete any so called council survey
How is it when these so called survey's are done I never see anything to do with them nobody has ever asked me to complete any so called council survey dangaw

10:14am Wed 13 Feb 13

Johnny_Boom says...

A similar service was introduced in Bury nearly 2 years ago now with no negative impact whatsoever. The domestic waste & food waste containers are emptied fortnightly with the recycling bins emptied monthly.

As long as residents are willing to make the effort and separate their recycling and are aware of when their different bins need to be put out, then I can't see any problems with these changes to rubbish collections in Bolton.

There have been none of the deluded issues of vermin, bad smells and fly tipping near me... these sensationalist arguments & concerns tend to be lazily wheeled out by those who are not willing to particpate and want these initiatives to fail.
A similar service was introduced in Bury nearly 2 years ago now with no negative impact whatsoever. The domestic waste & food waste containers are emptied fortnightly with the recycling bins emptied monthly. As long as residents are willing to make the effort and separate their recycling and are aware of when their different bins need to be put out, then I can't see any problems with these changes to rubbish collections in Bolton. There have been none of the deluded issues of vermin, bad smells and fly tipping near me... these sensationalist arguments & concerns tend to be lazily wheeled out by those who are not willing to particpate and want these initiatives to fail. Johnny_Boom

10:31am Wed 13 Feb 13

Mossage82 says...

Don't forget your local household waste recycling centre is open 7 days a week as well if you need it.
Don't forget your local household waste recycling centre is open 7 days a week as well if you need it. Mossage82

11:04am Wed 13 Feb 13

georgethebrave says...

So our services are cut, council tax is increasing and the only people who don't lose out are the town hall chiefs like Asquith who have all had pay rises recently? Bolton is now running in parallel with Saddam's Iraq, the people starved while he lavished himself with palaces with gold taps! Us and them scenario which needs sorting in the next election's, get rid of the fat greedy pigs with their snouts in the trough!
So our services are cut, council tax is increasing and the only people who don't lose out are the town hall chiefs like Asquith who have all had pay rises recently? Bolton is now running in parallel with Saddam's Iraq, the people starved while he lavished himself with palaces with gold taps! Us and them scenario which needs sorting in the next election's, get rid of the fat greedy pigs with their snouts in the trough! georgethebrave

11:06am Wed 13 Feb 13

trish1975 says...

Are Bolton council totally stupid, they have already tried this once and it did not work at all, people had lots of extra rubbish bags that the bin men would not take because they were not in the bins, and flytipping increased all over bolton.
If they want to save some money only collect recycle bins once a month, i dont know anyone who fills one of these bins up in a fortnight.
Are Bolton council totally stupid, they have already tried this once and it did not work at all, people had lots of extra rubbish bags that the bin men would not take because they were not in the bins, and flytipping increased all over bolton. If they want to save some money only collect recycle bins once a month, i dont know anyone who fills one of these bins up in a fortnight. trish1975

11:14am Wed 13 Feb 13

trish1975 says...

Oh i forgot to add something to my previous post, they trialed the green food waste tub in my area and i dont think anyone used them because most people in my area dont have a green bin as we dont have room for another bin.
We have a grey one a red one and a cream one.
Oh i forgot to add something to my previous post, they trialed the green food waste tub in my area and i dont think anyone used them because most people in my area dont have a green bin as we dont have room for another bin. We have a grey one a red one and a cream one. trish1975

11:24am Wed 13 Feb 13

Bolton5 says...

Does it really matter? Weekly or fortnightly is fine if they actually empty them each time.
Does it really matter? Weekly or fortnightly is fine if they actually empty them each time. Bolton5

11:34am Wed 13 Feb 13

Puffin-Billy says...

We should have monthly collections-
that would concentrate the mind.

The solution to the waste problem is:
stop manufacturing it,
stop selling it,
stop buying it.

But our governments both local and national are at the beck and call of those supermarkets etc.
who sell waste,
and those who dispose of it
-all at our expense.

When will we ever learn?
We should have monthly collections- that would concentrate the mind. The solution to the waste problem is: stop manufacturing it, stop selling it, stop buying it. But our governments both local and national are at the beck and call of those supermarkets etc. who sell waste, and those who dispose of it -all at our expense. When will we ever learn? Puffin-Billy

11:36am Wed 13 Feb 13

steveG says...

Don't all the bins contents finish up in landfill anyway?.
Don't all the bins contents finish up in landfill anyway?. steveG

11:45am Wed 13 Feb 13

exboard says...

Certainly supermarket packaging fills most of my Grey bin and they are the major culprits. Shop local.
All my locally purchased fruit and veg comes in recyclable paper bags.
Certainly supermarket packaging fills most of my Grey bin and they are the major culprits. Shop local. All my locally purchased fruit and veg comes in recyclable paper bags. exboard

12:05pm Wed 13 Feb 13

boltonnut says...

The bins will be emptied every two weeks,except,when there is inclement weather,providing all the wheels are attached,the bins are placed in the EXACT location,the bin man doesn't have a bad back and the moon is in the same ascendary as Venus. Sorry I don't mean to cause a stink.
The bins will be emptied every two weeks,except,when there is inclement weather,providing all the wheels are attached,the bins are placed in the EXACT location,the bin man doesn't have a bad back and the moon is in the same ascendary as Venus. Sorry I don't mean to cause a stink. boltonnut

1:00pm Wed 13 Feb 13

boltoncity says...

At least this time they are still going to continue to collect food waste on a weekly basis. The last attempt where all waste was collected fortnightly was a disaster and caused a lot of problems especially for larger families. i think it will be a good idea though im not sure how this will save a lot of money for the council as they will still be sending a collection team out all be it with a smaller van?
At least this time they are still going to continue to collect food waste on a weekly basis. The last attempt where all waste was collected fortnightly was a disaster and caused a lot of problems especially for larger families. i think it will be a good idea though im not sure how this will save a lot of money for the council as they will still be sending a collection team out all be it with a smaller van? boltoncity

1:09pm Wed 13 Feb 13

Rememberscarborough says...

Any suggestions about where to shove an unwanted turkey carcass at Christmas will be gratefully received because they surely won't fit in to one of those little boxes....
Any suggestions about where to shove an unwanted turkey carcass at Christmas will be gratefully received because they surely won't fit in to one of those little boxes.... Rememberscarborough

1:17pm Wed 13 Feb 13

hoboh2o says...

Why did the Lib-Dem’s get the boot from office? Ahhhh just remembered it was fortnightly bin collections. Anyone remember that top female Lib-Dem council leader commenting she could not believe how narrow minded the electorate were to vote them out over this, remember Morris and his 'never on our watch will the bins remain un-emptied for a fortnight'.
You have been warned Morris!
Why did the Lib-Dem’s get the boot from office? Ahhhh just remembered it was fortnightly bin collections. Anyone remember that top female Lib-Dem council leader commenting she could not believe how narrow minded the electorate were to vote them out over this, remember Morris and his 'never on our watch will the bins remain un-emptied for a fortnight'. You have been warned Morris! hoboh2o

1:29pm Wed 13 Feb 13

macca1411 says...

"72 per cent of residents thought the change would have little or no impact on their household"

Percentages mean nothing unless they can be backed up with actual figures. How many people completed the survey? How many people couldn't be bothered to complete the survey because the council had already made up it's mind? What is the breakdown of the people who completed the survey, eg areas, age, ethnicity, low, middle, upper class.

The council need to provide more information to the people who elected them to act on their behalf, and they were elected to act in the electorates best interests. Hope these councillors can scam enough in bonuses and expenses so that they have a nice little nest egg for when they lose their seat at the next local election.
It's time the residents of Bolton stood up to be counted rather than just accepting whatever the Town Hall says.
"72 per cent of residents thought the change would have little or no impact on their household" Percentages mean nothing unless they can be backed up with actual figures. How many people completed the survey? How many people couldn't be bothered to complete the survey because the council had already made up it's mind? What is the breakdown of the people who completed the survey, eg areas, age, ethnicity, low, middle, upper class. The council need to provide more information to the people who elected them to act on their behalf, and they were elected to act in the electorates best interests. Hope these councillors can scam enough in bonuses and expenses so that they have a nice little nest egg for when they lose their seat at the next local election. It's time the residents of Bolton stood up to be counted rather than just accepting whatever the Town Hall says. macca1411

3:34pm Wed 13 Feb 13

wagstaff says...

every 2 weeks is fine by me, we only have one bin and can get away with it being emptyed every 3 weeks,
well done MR morris sense at last
every 2 weeks is fine by me, we only have one bin and can get away with it being emptyed every 3 weeks, well done MR morris sense at last wagstaff

3:51pm Wed 13 Feb 13

hazdbfs says...

Fortnightly bin collections are fine by me. We are a family of four, n we manage perfectly well only putting our bins out to be emptied every fortnight. We recycle as a family. I have no idea what waste the people who are complaining have.
Fortnightly bin collections are fine by me. We are a family of four, n we manage perfectly well only putting our bins out to be emptied every fortnight. We recycle as a family. I have no idea what waste the people who are complaining have. hazdbfs

4:24pm Wed 13 Feb 13

Wigan Trotter says...

With all the extra bins, now no need for weekly collections. That is unless you do not re-cycle!
With all the extra bins, now no need for weekly collections. That is unless you do not re-cycle! Wigan Trotter

4:41pm Wed 13 Feb 13

Love Bolton says...

We only put our bins out once a month as we:
- recycle everything we can
- only buy what we will use
- shop at bolton market so very little packaging
It's quite easy really. Don't know what all the fuss is about.
In terms of bins, I think we could share our recyling bins with neighbours and have one or two between us if we had no space for our own of every colour.
We only put our bins out once a month as we: - recycle everything we can - only buy what we will use - shop at bolton market so very little packaging It's quite easy really. Don't know what all the fuss is about. In terms of bins, I think we could share our recyling bins with neighbours and have one or two between us if we had no space for our own of every colour. Love Bolton

4:44pm Wed 13 Feb 13

Count de Monet says...

wagstaff wrote:
every 2 weeks is fine by me, we only have one bin and can get away with it being emptyed every 3 weeks,
well done MR morris sense at last
Fine until there is 2 inches of snow on the ground on your rubbish collection day and you have to wait a further 2 weeks for your bin to be emptied.
[quote][p][bold]wagstaff[/bold] wrote: every 2 weeks is fine by me, we only have one bin and can get away with it being emptyed every 3 weeks, well done MR morris sense at last[/p][/quote]Fine until there is 2 inches of snow on the ground on your rubbish collection day and you have to wait a further 2 weeks for your bin to be emptied. Count de Monet

7:51pm Wed 13 Feb 13

Dirk59 says...

A very sensible saving, going to fortnightly grey bin emptying. I only put mine out fortnightly anyway, as I make sure I'm recycling and use the other bins provided. If some folk are filling their grey bins to the top on a weekly basis, then they need to look at their lifestyle and / or their own recycling habits, as they must be gettin' it wrong somewhere!
A very sensible saving, going to fortnightly grey bin emptying. I only put mine out fortnightly anyway, as I make sure I'm recycling and use the other bins provided. If some folk are filling their grey bins to the top on a weekly basis, then they need to look at their lifestyle and / or their own recycling habits, as they must be gettin' it wrong somewhere! Dirk59

8:28pm Wed 13 Feb 13

SmoggyDiasboro says...

The one gap in the discussion is where those residents with limited space can store all, the bins. Some thought should have been given / should be given in future when planning developments in providing communal bins with VERY regular emptying. Go ANYWHERE on the Continent and wherever communal bins are in place, they appear to be able to be emptied daily. It just needs a little bit more planning by the Council and acceptance by residents of their DUTY to use the proper refuse facilities. A large family in a block cannot store 4 bins, nor manage with just one but they can be expected to walk a very small distance to a communal facility. For the elderly / disabled / unable to use such a facility neighbours should accept their duty to assist. Not a popular opinion, I know, but why should we pay penalties for underperforming on recycling when all it takes is a bit of thought / communal spirit. We may well be in deep **** financially, but quite a few of the solutions are in our hands as residents
The one gap in the discussion is where those residents with limited space can store all, the bins. Some thought should have been given / should be given in future when planning developments in providing communal bins with VERY regular emptying. Go ANYWHERE on the Continent and wherever communal bins are in place, they appear to be able to be emptied daily. It just needs a little bit more planning by the Council and acceptance by residents of their DUTY to use the proper refuse facilities. A large family in a block cannot store 4 bins, nor manage with just one but they can be expected to walk a very small distance to a communal facility. For the elderly / disabled / unable to use such a facility neighbours should accept their duty to assist. Not a popular opinion, I know, but why should we pay penalties for underperforming on recycling when all it takes is a bit of thought / communal spirit. We may well be in deep **** financially, but quite a few of the solutions are in our hands as residents SmoggyDiasboro

8:53pm Wed 13 Feb 13

irwell1 says...

hoboh2o wrote:
Why did the Lib-Dem’s get the boot from office? Ahhhh just remembered it was fortnightly bin collections. Anyone remember that top female Lib-Dem council leader commenting she could not believe how narrow minded the electorate were to vote them out over this, remember Morris and his 'never on our watch will the bins remain un-emptied for a fortnight'.
You have been warned Morris!
Spot on. Yes the Labour Party used it to get in power then go back on their promises. Why do people vote Labour?
[quote][p][bold]hoboh2o[/bold] wrote: Why did the Lib-Dem’s get the boot from office? Ahhhh just remembered it was fortnightly bin collections. Anyone remember that top female Lib-Dem council leader commenting she could not believe how narrow minded the electorate were to vote them out over this, remember Morris and his 'never on our watch will the bins remain un-emptied for a fortnight'. You have been warned Morris![/p][/quote]Spot on. Yes the Labour Party used it to get in power then go back on their promises. Why do people vote Labour? irwell1

8:59pm Wed 13 Feb 13

Mossage82 says...

steveG wrote:
Don't all the bins contents finish up in landfill anyway?.
No, absolutely not. Landfill tax is currently £64 PER TONNE ! Believe me when I say it is in no ones interest for domestic waste to end up in landfill. And it doesn't, nor does the recyclate.
[quote][p][bold]steveG[/bold] wrote: Don't all the bins contents finish up in landfill anyway?.[/p][/quote]No, absolutely not. Landfill tax is currently £64 PER TONNE ! Believe me when I say it is in no ones interest for domestic waste to end up in landfill. And it doesn't, nor does the recyclate. Mossage82

9:31pm Wed 13 Feb 13

hoboh2o says...

Dirk59 wrote:
A very sensible saving, going to fortnightly grey bin emptying. I only put mine out fortnightly anyway, as I make sure I'm recycling and use the other bins provided. If some folk are filling their grey bins to the top on a weekly basis, then they need to look at their lifestyle and / or their own recycling habits, as they must be gettin' it wrong somewhere!
Fine but a portion of my 'council tax' bill is for refuse removal, ie I put out my refuse it gets removed it is not up to me to stand by my bins and wonder if x plastic wrapping is the right chemical content for y bin or when is a foil container not a foil container. I pay my money, BMBC shift it and if they want me to sort it for recycling they PAY ME or employ people to do it. While we are on the subject why have BMBC got the monopoly on household waste removal?
[quote][p][bold]Dirk59[/bold] wrote: A very sensible saving, going to fortnightly grey bin emptying. I only put mine out fortnightly anyway, as I make sure I'm recycling and use the other bins provided. If some folk are filling their grey bins to the top on a weekly basis, then they need to look at their lifestyle and / or their own recycling habits, as they must be gettin' it wrong somewhere![/p][/quote]Fine but a portion of my 'council tax' bill is for refuse removal, ie I put out my refuse it gets removed it is not up to me to stand by my bins and wonder if x plastic wrapping is the right chemical content for y bin or when is a foil container not a foil container. I pay my money, BMBC shift it and if they want me to sort it for recycling they PAY ME or employ people to do it. While we are on the subject why have BMBC got the monopoly on household waste removal? hoboh2o

9:44pm Wed 13 Feb 13

omg133 says...

bin fires from arsonists, fly tipping , rats, militant binmen,piles of uncollected rubbish not to mention areas with Large Families who need weekly Collections ,,, its been tried and failed before .. oh yeh bring on the future comments .... Saving money ..ha ha, these are the same Idiots that have turned bolton shopping into a boarded up joke., Cr@p roads, no public toilets, libraries gone, .Cant you see this,,, Rise in coucil tax , less service .want to save money..as always Blinkers on ,,wrong direction thats bolton council !!!.. make a stand !! ITS your town , Dont be Controlled ,

Trish & wagstaff you are dead right

this town applied for city status... yeh .... we cant even empty ppls sh!t
bin fires from arsonists, fly tipping , rats, militant binmen,piles of uncollected rubbish not to mention areas with Large Families who need weekly Collections ,,, its been tried and failed before .. oh yeh bring on the future comments .... Saving money ..ha ha, these are the same Idiots that have turned bolton shopping into a boarded up joke., Cr@p roads, no public toilets, libraries gone, .Cant you see this,,, Rise in coucil tax , less service .want to save money..as always Blinkers on ,,wrong direction thats bolton council !!!.. make a stand !! ITS your town , Dont be Controlled , Trish & wagstaff you are dead right this town applied for city status... yeh .... we cant even empty ppls sh!t omg133

9:49pm Wed 13 Feb 13

angus macoatup says...

trish1975 wrote:
Are Bolton council totally stupid, they have already tried this once and it did not work at all, people had lots of extra rubbish bags that the bin men would not take because they were not in the bins, and flytipping increased all over bolton.
If they want to save some money only collect recycle bins once a month, i dont know anyone who fills one of these bins up in a fortnight.
well said old chap
[quote][p][bold]trish1975[/bold] wrote: Are Bolton council totally stupid, they have already tried this once and it did not work at all, people had lots of extra rubbish bags that the bin men would not take because they were not in the bins, and flytipping increased all over bolton. If they want to save some money only collect recycle bins once a month, i dont know anyone who fills one of these bins up in a fortnight.[/p][/quote]well said old chap angus macoatup

9:49pm Wed 13 Feb 13

omg133 says...

Mossage82 wrote:
Don't forget your local household waste recycling centre is open 7 days a week as well if you need it.
sorry , i work 6 days a week , can you collect mine?
[quote][p][bold]Mossage82[/bold] wrote: Don't forget your local household waste recycling centre is open 7 days a week as well if you need it.[/p][/quote]sorry , i work 6 days a week , can you collect mine? omg133

9:53pm Wed 13 Feb 13

omg133 says...

sorry not Wagstaff , i will be dumping my bags in your quarter filled bin
sorry not Wagstaff , i will be dumping my bags in your quarter filled bin omg133

10:01pm Wed 13 Feb 13

Mossage82 says...

omg133 wrote:
Mossage82 wrote:
Don't forget your local household waste recycling centre is open 7 days a week as well if you need it.
sorry , i work 6 days a week , can you collect mine?
Well if your spending so much time at work you won't be producing much domestic waste at home then will you ?!
[quote][p][bold]omg133[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mossage82[/bold] wrote: Don't forget your local household waste recycling centre is open 7 days a week as well if you need it.[/p][/quote]sorry , i work 6 days a week , can you collect mine?[/p][/quote]Well if your spending so much time at work you won't be producing much domestic waste at home then will you ?! Mossage82

10:04pm Wed 13 Feb 13

csw1970 says...

So what happens when they 'miss' your collection?
Twice this year my bin has failed to be emptied due to crews 'overlooking' my street. The response..... They will collect an extra two black bin liners next time!!!
This situation will result in my family of 5 plus pets having to use one dustbin plus two bin liners every four weeks. Its ridiculous, there will be rubbish dumped everywhere where there are no cameras and rats will be rife.
Oh sorry, I forgot we're going to get another ridiculous grey pot for food waste to adorn our kitchens. Unfortunately we cannot all afford the house with enough space to hide it!!!!!
So what happens when they 'miss' your collection? Twice this year my bin has failed to be emptied due to crews 'overlooking' my street. The response..... They will collect an extra two black bin liners next time!!! This situation will result in my family of 5 plus pets having to use one dustbin plus two bin liners every four weeks. Its ridiculous, there will be rubbish dumped everywhere where there are no cameras and rats will be rife. Oh sorry, I forgot we're going to get another ridiculous grey pot for food waste to adorn our kitchens. Unfortunately we cannot all afford the house with enough space to hide it!!!!! csw1970

10:09pm Wed 13 Feb 13

omg133 says...

if we are saving council money on a 2 weekly collection then...
Surely .
50% of big wagons must be sold as we dont need them reducing transport & repiar costs
50% of the binmen Must go ( not required )

end of the day ... you have these sources in place But no longer needed weekly & it can only save on diesel
you cant save money if you a paying wages and costs still for the above !!! Fact

Sack em !!! & sell em ,
if we are saving council money on a 2 weekly collection then... Surely . 50% of big wagons must be sold as we dont need them reducing transport & repiar costs 50% of the binmen Must go ( not required ) end of the day ... you have these sources in place But no longer needed weekly & it can only save on diesel you cant save money if you a paying wages and costs still for the above !!! Fact Sack em !!! & sell em , omg133

10:11pm Wed 13 Feb 13

omg133 says...

Mossage82 wrote:
omg133 wrote:
Mossage82 wrote:
Don't forget your local household waste recycling centre is open 7 days a week as well if you need it.
sorry , i work 6 days a week , can you collect mine?
Well if your spending so much time at work you won't be producing much domestic waste at home then will you ?!
yeh,,its called life....get 1
[quote][p][bold]Mossage82[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]omg133[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mossage82[/bold] wrote: Don't forget your local household waste recycling centre is open 7 days a week as well if you need it.[/p][/quote]sorry , i work 6 days a week , can you collect mine?[/p][/quote]Well if your spending so much time at work you won't be producing much domestic waste at home then will you ?![/p][/quote]yeh,,its called life....get 1 omg133

10:19pm Wed 13 Feb 13

Mossage82 says...

ha haaa ! How much of a life do you get in with your 1 day off a week ?!
ha haaa ! How much of a life do you get in with your 1 day off a week ?! Mossage82

10:28pm Wed 13 Feb 13

omg133 says...

Mossage82 wrote:
ha haaa ! How much of a life do you get in with your 1 day off a week ?!
listen,, you go save the planet on your 1 man crusade ,, its called working and paying taxes,,probably supporting you !
[quote][p][bold]Mossage82[/bold] wrote: ha haaa ! How much of a life do you get in with your 1 day off a week ?![/p][/quote]listen,, you go save the planet on your 1 man crusade ,, its called working and paying taxes,,probably supporting you ! omg133

10:32pm Wed 13 Feb 13

big johnny says...

There are people on here who just don't get It, I myself might not need weekly collections but the council are putting council tax up and taking away our services and people on here want me to run my rubbish to recycling center in my car using my diesel and not to mention the carbon footprint FOOLS.
There are people on here who just don't get It, I myself might not need weekly collections but the council are putting council tax up and taking away our services and people on here want me to run my rubbish to recycling center in my car using my diesel and not to mention the carbon footprint FOOLS. big johnny

10:34pm Wed 13 Feb 13

Mossage82 says...

OMG... how wrong you are ! I am 30 years old and have been in full time employment for the last 14 years. Ive paid more in taxes than some multinational companies !!
OMG... how wrong you are ! I am 30 years old and have been in full time employment for the last 14 years. Ive paid more in taxes than some multinational companies !! Mossage82

10:39pm Wed 13 Feb 13

omg133 says...

Mossage82 wrote:
OMG... how wrong you are ! I am 30 years old and have been in full time employment for the last 14 years. Ive paid more in taxes than some multinational companies !!
if only that was true...couple of back to work programs does'nt count ...Tesco's beware we are talking " multi " here
[quote][p][bold]Mossage82[/bold] wrote: OMG... how wrong you are ! I am 30 years old and have been in full time employment for the last 14 years. Ive paid more in taxes than some multinational companies !![/p][/quote]if only that was true...couple of back to work programs does'nt count ...Tesco's beware we are talking " multi " here omg133

10:39pm Wed 13 Feb 13

Dirk59 says...

angus macoatup wrote:
trish1975 wrote: Are Bolton council totally stupid, they have already tried this once and it did not work at all, people had lots of extra rubbish bags that the bin men would not take because they were not in the bins, and flytipping increased all over bolton. If they want to save some money only collect recycle bins once a month, i dont know anyone who fills one of these bins up in a fortnight.
well said old chap
No ... some won't fill their recycling bins in a fortnight, and have their grey one overflowing within a week, but that's because they're probably not recycling properly, or ' can't be bothered '. Yes, Bolton Council tried fortnightly grey bin collections before ...and they should have carried on with it too! Some folk are just too plain lazy to sort their waste, and probably just dump it all in the grey one, because they know it gets emptied more often. You could give some houses 10 grey bins, and they'd still fill 'em every week LOL

One grey bin, emptied fortnightly, should be sufficient for the overwhelming majority of households, so why should we spend resources on weekly collections, just for the few who can't be bothered to sort their waste properly?
[quote][p][bold]angus macoatup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]trish1975[/bold] wrote: Are Bolton council totally stupid, they have already tried this once and it did not work at all, people had lots of extra rubbish bags that the bin men would not take because they were not in the bins, and flytipping increased all over bolton. If they want to save some money only collect recycle bins once a month, i dont know anyone who fills one of these bins up in a fortnight.[/p][/quote]well said old chap[/p][/quote]No ... some won't fill their recycling bins in a fortnight, and have their grey one overflowing within a week, but that's because they're probably not recycling properly, or ' can't be bothered '. Yes, Bolton Council tried fortnightly grey bin collections before ...and they should have carried on with it too! Some folk are just too plain lazy to sort their waste, and probably just dump it all in the grey one, because they know it gets emptied more often. You could give some houses 10 grey bins, and they'd still fill 'em every week LOL One grey bin, emptied fortnightly, should be sufficient for the overwhelming majority of households, so why should we spend resources on weekly collections, just for the few who can't be bothered to sort their waste properly? Dirk59

10:40pm Wed 13 Feb 13

omg133 says...

thats M for multi
thats M for multi omg133

11:07pm Wed 13 Feb 13

omg133 says...

Dirk59 wrote:
angus macoatup wrote:
trish1975 wrote: Are Bolton council totally stupid, they have already tried this once and it did not work at all, people had lots of extra rubbish bags that the bin men would not take because they were not in the bins, and flytipping increased all over bolton. If they want to save some money only collect recycle bins once a month, i dont know anyone who fills one of these bins up in a fortnight.
well said old chap
No ... some won't fill their recycling bins in a fortnight, and have their grey one overflowing within a week, but that's because they're probably not recycling properly, or ' can't be bothered '. Yes, Bolton Council tried fortnightly grey bin collections before ...and they should have carried on with it too! Some folk are just too plain lazy to sort their waste, and probably just dump it all in the grey one, because they know it gets emptied more often. You could give some houses 10 grey bins, and they'd still fill 'em every week LOL

One grey bin, emptied fortnightly, should be sufficient for the overwhelming majority of households, so why should we spend resources on weekly collections, just for the few who can't be bothered to sort their waste properly?
ok,,,
so how do you account for large famlies in bolton in some areas's with say 8 members ?
[quote][p][bold]Dirk59[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]angus macoatup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]trish1975[/bold] wrote: Are Bolton council totally stupid, they have already tried this once and it did not work at all, people had lots of extra rubbish bags that the bin men would not take because they were not in the bins, and flytipping increased all over bolton. If they want to save some money only collect recycle bins once a month, i dont know anyone who fills one of these bins up in a fortnight.[/p][/quote]well said old chap[/p][/quote]No ... some won't fill their recycling bins in a fortnight, and have their grey one overflowing within a week, but that's because they're probably not recycling properly, or ' can't be bothered '. Yes, Bolton Council tried fortnightly grey bin collections before ...and they should have carried on with it too! Some folk are just too plain lazy to sort their waste, and probably just dump it all in the grey one, because they know it gets emptied more often. You could give some houses 10 grey bins, and they'd still fill 'em every week LOL One grey bin, emptied fortnightly, should be sufficient for the overwhelming majority of households, so why should we spend resources on weekly collections, just for the few who can't be bothered to sort their waste properly?[/p][/quote]ok,,, so how do you account for large famlies in bolton in some areas's with say 8 members ? omg133

12:24am Thu 14 Feb 13

Dirk59 says...

omg133 wrote:
Dirk59 wrote:
angus macoatup wrote:
trish1975 wrote: Are Bolton council totally stupid, they have already tried this once and it did not work at all, people had lots of extra rubbish bags that the bin men would not take because they were not in the bins, and flytipping increased all over bolton. If they want to save some money only collect recycle bins once a month, i dont know anyone who fills one of these bins up in a fortnight.
well said old chap
No ... some won't fill their recycling bins in a fortnight, and have their grey one overflowing within a week, but that's because they're probably not recycling properly, or ' can't be bothered '. Yes, Bolton Council tried fortnightly grey bin collections before ...and they should have carried on with it too! Some folk are just too plain lazy to sort their waste, and probably just dump it all in the grey one, because they know it gets emptied more often. You could give some houses 10 grey bins, and they'd still fill 'em every week LOL One grey bin, emptied fortnightly, should be sufficient for the overwhelming majority of households, so why should we spend resources on weekly collections, just for the few who can't be bothered to sort their waste properly?
ok,,, so how do you account for large famlies in bolton in some areas's with say 8 members ?
Give 'em 2 grey bins ...and an appointment at the Family Planning Clinic ;-)
[quote][p][bold]omg133[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dirk59[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]angus macoatup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]trish1975[/bold] wrote: Are Bolton council totally stupid, they have already tried this once and it did not work at all, people had lots of extra rubbish bags that the bin men would not take because they were not in the bins, and flytipping increased all over bolton. If they want to save some money only collect recycle bins once a month, i dont know anyone who fills one of these bins up in a fortnight.[/p][/quote]well said old chap[/p][/quote]No ... some won't fill their recycling bins in a fortnight, and have their grey one overflowing within a week, but that's because they're probably not recycling properly, or ' can't be bothered '. Yes, Bolton Council tried fortnightly grey bin collections before ...and they should have carried on with it too! Some folk are just too plain lazy to sort their waste, and probably just dump it all in the grey one, because they know it gets emptied more often. You could give some houses 10 grey bins, and they'd still fill 'em every week LOL One grey bin, emptied fortnightly, should be sufficient for the overwhelming majority of households, so why should we spend resources on weekly collections, just for the few who can't be bothered to sort their waste properly?[/p][/quote]ok,,, so how do you account for large famlies in bolton in some areas's with say 8 members ?[/p][/quote]Give 'em 2 grey bins ...and an appointment at the Family Planning Clinic ;-) Dirk59

12:51am Thu 14 Feb 13

BWFC71 says...

Just what are Bolton Council doing wrong????

Where I live there has been very little increase in local tax (less than 3% over last 4 years) - council services have not dimished, in fact they have increased - new schools, new libraries, more funding for local transport, roads are in tip-top condition and they try to stage a "community" town centre event at least twice a month and as for bins they are collected (both recycled and non-recycled) twice a week and are looking at plans to increase to 3 times a week. As for number of bins - we have 3 (regular waste, recyclable material and bottles)

it is about time Bolton Council started looking at other areas on how to improve services without job cuts or tax rises!!!!
Just what are Bolton Council doing wrong???? Where I live there has been very little increase in local tax (less than 3% over last 4 years) - council services have not dimished, in fact they have increased - new schools, new libraries, more funding for local transport, roads are in tip-top condition and they try to stage a "community" town centre event at least twice a month and as for bins they are collected (both recycled and non-recycled) twice a week and are looking at plans to increase to 3 times a week. As for number of bins - we have 3 (regular waste, recyclable material and bottles) it is about time Bolton Council started looking at other areas on how to improve services without job cuts or tax rises!!!! BWFC71

1:18am Thu 14 Feb 13

fitz108 says...

omg133 wrote:
Mossage82 wrote:
Don't forget your local household waste recycling centre is open 7 days a week as well if you need it.
sorry , i work 6 days a week , can you collect mine?
Why already having closed union road, and blackrod due to close are they not keeping these open to encourage people to take their rubbish to these places
Does not make sense, but nothing does where bolton council are concerned
[quote][p][bold]omg133[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mossage82[/bold] wrote: Don't forget your local household waste recycling centre is open 7 days a week as well if you need it.[/p][/quote]sorry , i work 6 days a week , can you collect mine?[/p][/quote]Why already having closed union road, and blackrod due to close are they not keeping these open to encourage people to take their rubbish to these places Does not make sense, but nothing does where bolton council are concerned fitz108

8:11am Thu 14 Feb 13

Wigan Trotter says...

Amazing how bins dominate some people's life!
Amazing how bins dominate some people's life! Wigan Trotter

8:36am Thu 14 Feb 13

irwell1 says...

Boltonresident2012 wrote:
irwell1 wrote:
I think most of us will simply to continue to put food waste into the grey bin with the rest of the household rubbish. The reality is that hardly anyone separates their food waste into those silly containers we were given a while ago. To just say increasing recycling is the answer is so narrow minded. The real culprits are the Supermarkets and food packaging industries who continue to use unnecessary packaging. So Council Tax going up and more services taken away, well done to our Labour run council, they really are the party of the people aren't they.
Please talk for yourself in this and not for all of us. Most people I know are used to the small bins - and use them!

Last time they had 2 weekly collections it was a disaster, however this time, hopefully the grey bins will not stink in summer - sooner or later the bins will be coded - as tried elsewhere and people who put the lot together will be fined anyway.
You seem to have a problem with reality. It's a hard fact that most people will scrape their leftovers straight in the bin with the rest of the household rubbish. Do you realise that most of us have a Green wheelie bin so that means the food waste would only be collected EVERY TWO WEEKS. The two faced Labour Councillors don't advertise that much do they?
[quote][p][bold]Boltonresident2012[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]irwell1[/bold] wrote: I think most of us will simply to continue to put food waste into the grey bin with the rest of the household rubbish. The reality is that hardly anyone separates their food waste into those silly containers we were given a while ago. To just say increasing recycling is the answer is so narrow minded. The real culprits are the Supermarkets and food packaging industries who continue to use unnecessary packaging. So Council Tax going up and more services taken away, well done to our Labour run council, they really are the party of the people aren't they.[/p][/quote]Please talk for yourself in this and not for all of us. Most people I know are used to the small bins - and use them! Last time they had 2 weekly collections it was a disaster, however this time, hopefully the grey bins will not stink in summer - sooner or later the bins will be coded - as tried elsewhere and people who put the lot together will be fined anyway.[/p][/quote]You seem to have a problem with reality. It's a hard fact that most people will scrape their leftovers straight in the bin with the rest of the household rubbish. Do you realise that most of us have a Green wheelie bin so that means the food waste would only be collected EVERY TWO WEEKS. The two faced Labour Councillors don't advertise that much do they? irwell1

9:04am Thu 14 Feb 13

yonmons says...

So Bolton Council are going back to the fortnightly collections, caused a lot of disgruntled Bolton Metro residents last time they did this, I do believe the Liberal majority at that time (who drove this idea) lost the majority as a direct result after Labour promised to return to weekly collections. (google it) I cannot see HOW emptying bins every 2 weeks saves the council money ? If someone from the council could explain that (in detail ) I would appreciate it. Other authorites whilst still under financial constraints manage to collect on a weekly basis. But good old Bolton Council choose to opt out of the weekly collection at the first opportunity. So its back to weekly trips to Raikes Lane with stinking bags of rubbish in the car, queues and interrogation by the "bins Police" at the plant as to what you are dumping. wonder how long before public opinion will change their minds. Councils the last bastion in these times of "Everyone else is wrong, and we are right even if we are wrong"
So Bolton Council are going back to the fortnightly collections, caused a lot of disgruntled Bolton Metro residents last time they did this, I do believe the Liberal majority at that time (who drove this idea) lost the majority as a direct result after Labour promised to return to weekly collections. (google it) I cannot see HOW emptying bins every 2 weeks saves the council money ? If someone from the council could explain that (in detail ) I would appreciate it. Other authorites whilst still under financial constraints manage to collect on a weekly basis. But good old Bolton Council choose to opt out of the weekly collection at the first opportunity. So its back to weekly trips to Raikes Lane with stinking bags of rubbish in the car, queues and interrogation by the "bins Police" at the plant as to what you are dumping. wonder how long before public opinion will change their minds. Councils the last bastion in these times of "Everyone else is wrong, and we are right even if we are wrong" yonmons

10:18am Thu 14 Feb 13

Boltonresident2012 says...

irwell1 wrote:
Boltonresident2012 wrote:
irwell1 wrote:
I think most of us will simply to continue to put food waste into the grey bin with the rest of the household rubbish. The reality is that hardly anyone separates their food waste into those silly containers we were given a while ago. To just say increasing recycling is the answer is so narrow minded. The real culprits are the Supermarkets and food packaging industries who continue to use unnecessary packaging. So Council Tax going up and more services taken away, well done to our Labour run council, they really are the party of the people aren't they.
Please talk for yourself in this and not for all of us. Most people I know are used to the small bins - and use them!

Last time they had 2 weekly collections it was a disaster, however this time, hopefully the grey bins will not stink in summer - sooner or later the bins will be coded - as tried elsewhere and people who put the lot together will be fined anyway.
You seem to have a problem with reality. It's a hard fact that most people will scrape their leftovers straight in the bin with the rest of the household rubbish. Do you realise that most of us have a Green wheelie bin so that means the food waste would only be collected EVERY TWO WEEKS. The two faced Labour Councillors don't advertise that much do they?
You have your reality, I have mine
[quote][p][bold]irwell1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Boltonresident2012[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]irwell1[/bold] wrote: I think most of us will simply to continue to put food waste into the grey bin with the rest of the household rubbish. The reality is that hardly anyone separates their food waste into those silly containers we were given a while ago. To just say increasing recycling is the answer is so narrow minded. The real culprits are the Supermarkets and food packaging industries who continue to use unnecessary packaging. So Council Tax going up and more services taken away, well done to our Labour run council, they really are the party of the people aren't they.[/p][/quote]Please talk for yourself in this and not for all of us. Most people I know are used to the small bins - and use them! Last time they had 2 weekly collections it was a disaster, however this time, hopefully the grey bins will not stink in summer - sooner or later the bins will be coded - as tried elsewhere and people who put the lot together will be fined anyway.[/p][/quote]You seem to have a problem with reality. It's a hard fact that most people will scrape their leftovers straight in the bin with the rest of the household rubbish. Do you realise that most of us have a Green wheelie bin so that means the food waste would only be collected EVERY TWO WEEKS. The two faced Labour Councillors don't advertise that much do they?[/p][/quote]You have your reality, I have mine Boltonresident2012

11:15am Thu 14 Feb 13

Kayj21 says...

Where are we to put an extra bin in most of the gardens in Bolton. I can't fit another in. It's a disgrace that the council tax is rising yet they are reducing a service witch is needed.
Where are we to put an extra bin in most of the gardens in Bolton. I can't fit another in. It's a disgrace that the council tax is rising yet they are reducing a service witch is needed. Kayj21

11:20am Thu 14 Feb 13

dan422 says...

As a Boltonian now living in Garstang, north of Preston it never ceases to amaze me how much people in Bolton love to moan about anything the council does.
We have had fortnightly collections here for almost 10 years with no problem whatsoever. With a garden waste/paper/bottle collection every alernate week our non-recycled bin even after 2 weeks is rarely full even with 3 children in thehosehold. You just get smarter at what you recycle - surprisingly little is actually un-recyclable.
As a Boltonian now living in Garstang, north of Preston it never ceases to amaze me how much people in Bolton love to moan about anything the council does. We have had fortnightly collections here for almost 10 years with no problem whatsoever. With a garden waste/paper/bottle collection every alernate week our non-recycled bin even after 2 weeks is rarely full even with 3 children in thehosehold. You just get smarter at what you recycle - surprisingly little is actually un-recyclable. dan422

11:35am Thu 14 Feb 13

Marzi30 says...

I wonder how many people who contribute to these forums actually bother to vote at the Council elections, and if so just vote Labour because it's all they know. Something radical has to happen to remove these idiots from local power. They refer to "surveys' yet I've yet to meet one person who has actually filled one in, yet alone received one. Our bestowed leader Cllr Doris harps on about how Bolton is holding it's own in the current recession hit climate, does he not look out of the window from his ivory tower at the Town Hall to see what a dump the Town is becoming ? Does anybody know how difficult it is to start an independent local political party to wrestle power away from these buffoons and get local people with local issues at their heart to stand against elected Labour Councillors in their respective areas ? Surely in this day and age of social networking and electronic media there must be something that local townsfolk can do to challenge this status quo ? Ideas anyone ?
I wonder how many people who contribute to these forums actually bother to vote at the Council elections, and if so just vote Labour because it's all they know. Something radical has to happen to remove these idiots from local power. They refer to "surveys' yet I've yet to meet one person who has actually filled one in, yet alone received one. Our bestowed leader Cllr Doris harps on about how Bolton is holding it's own in the current recession hit climate, does he not look out of the window from his ivory tower at the Town Hall to see what a dump the Town is becoming ? Does anybody know how difficult it is to start an independent local political party to wrestle power away from these buffoons and get local people with local issues at their heart to stand against elected Labour Councillors in their respective areas ? Surely in this day and age of social networking and electronic media there must be something that local townsfolk can do to challenge this status quo ? Ideas anyone ? Marzi30

12:15pm Thu 14 Feb 13

irwell1 says...

Marzi30 wrote:
I wonder how many people who contribute to these forums actually bother to vote at the Council elections, and if so just vote Labour because it's all they know. Something radical has to happen to remove these idiots from local power. They refer to "surveys' yet I've yet to meet one person who has actually filled one in, yet alone received one. Our bestowed leader Cllr Doris harps on about how Bolton is holding it's own in the current recession hit climate, does he not look out of the window from his ivory tower at the Town Hall to see what a dump the Town is becoming ? Does anybody know how difficult it is to start an independent local political party to wrestle power away from these buffoons and get local people with local issues at their heart to stand against elected Labour Councillors in their respective areas ? Surely in this day and age of social networking and electronic media there must be something that local townsfolk can do to challenge this status quo ? Ideas anyone ?
Excellent post. Thankfully more and more people are cottoning on that Labour are just the Tories with red rosettes. I believe you can stand as an independent Councillor simply by getting in touch with Electoral Services at the Town Hall, and to start your own Party is also fairly straight forward by getting in touch with the Electoral Commission (Google them) and they will send all the details and paperwork. As you say, it's not about bins, it's about lies.
[quote][p][bold]Marzi30[/bold] wrote: I wonder how many people who contribute to these forums actually bother to vote at the Council elections, and if so just vote Labour because it's all they know. Something radical has to happen to remove these idiots from local power. They refer to "surveys' yet I've yet to meet one person who has actually filled one in, yet alone received one. Our bestowed leader Cllr Doris harps on about how Bolton is holding it's own in the current recession hit climate, does he not look out of the window from his ivory tower at the Town Hall to see what a dump the Town is becoming ? Does anybody know how difficult it is to start an independent local political party to wrestle power away from these buffoons and get local people with local issues at their heart to stand against elected Labour Councillors in their respective areas ? Surely in this day and age of social networking and electronic media there must be something that local townsfolk can do to challenge this status quo ? Ideas anyone ?[/p][/quote]Excellent post. Thankfully more and more people are cottoning on that Labour are just the Tories with red rosettes. I believe you can stand as an independent Councillor simply by getting in touch with Electoral Services at the Town Hall, and to start your own Party is also fairly straight forward by getting in touch with the Electoral Commission (Google them) and they will send all the details and paperwork. As you say, it's not about bins, it's about lies. irwell1

2:30pm Thu 14 Feb 13

Wigan Trotter says...

No, it's about people who spend their time moaning about anything to do with a Council or anything to do with authority.

It's the same in Wigan, and I suspect every local authority area.

Sad people who need to get a life.
No, it's about people who spend their time moaning about anything to do with a Council or anything to do with authority. It's the same in Wigan, and I suspect every local authority area. Sad people who need to get a life. Wigan Trotter

4:27pm Thu 14 Feb 13

PeteRy says...

How stupid to reduce the size of the bin. I'm sure that the 72% of people who returned their survey didn't see that one comming - me included. I currently only put my grey bin out evey two weeks (could even manage 3 weeks at a push) and manage quite well. I achieve this by recycling whatever I can. If it's recycleable, I recycle it. It should be EITHER reduce the size of bin and collect weekly, or stick with the larger bin and collect fortnightly My household consists of two adults but regularly feed 3 grandchildren and 3 adults, so I consider myself as a normal householder. People with larger families are going to struggle.
How stupid to reduce the size of the bin. I'm sure that the 72% of people who returned their survey didn't see that one comming - me included. I currently only put my grey bin out evey two weeks (could even manage 3 weeks at a push) and manage quite well. I achieve this by recycling whatever I can. If it's recycleable, I recycle it. It should be EITHER reduce the size of bin and collect weekly, or stick with the larger bin and collect fortnightly My household consists of two adults but regularly feed 3 grandchildren and 3 adults, so I consider myself as a normal householder. People with larger families are going to struggle. PeteRy

7:17pm Thu 14 Feb 13

Marzi30 says...

Wigan Trotter, it's not about people spending time moaning about the Council and moaning about authority, it's about constantly being lied to by a Political Party who have become so complacent, granted largely due to voter apathy, and who think that they will be returned to office because Bolton is and always has been a staunchly Labour Town. Perhaps if people of Bolton were reminded of of one of many broken promises made by Councillor Doris and his cronies, then perhaps we could lose this apathy and get these liars voted out of office, in relation to the bin emptying saga and the Labour Council's decision to revert back to fortnightly collections, readers might want to have a read of the article below from the Bolton News dated March 2007 when Labour were wanting public support. You sit back by all means Wigan Trotter if you're happy being walked all over by your Council, but it is now high time Boltonians got off their backsides and made a stance:


http://www.thebolton
news.co.uk/news/1266
554.Weekly_rubbish_c
ollections_will_stay
___council_leader/
Wigan Trotter, it's not about people spending time moaning about the Council and moaning about authority, it's about constantly being lied to by a Political Party who have become so complacent, granted largely due to voter apathy, and who think that they will be returned to office because Bolton is and always has been a staunchly Labour Town. Perhaps if people of Bolton were reminded of of one of many broken promises made by Councillor Doris and his cronies, then perhaps we could lose this apathy and get these liars voted out of office, in relation to the bin emptying saga and the Labour Council's decision to revert back to fortnightly collections, readers might want to have a read of the article below from the Bolton News dated March 2007 when Labour were wanting public support. You sit back by all means Wigan Trotter if you're happy being walked all over by your Council, but it is now high time Boltonians got off their backsides and made a stance: http://www.thebolton news.co.uk/news/1266 554.Weekly_rubbish_c ollections_will_stay ___council_leader/ Marzi30

7:38pm Thu 14 Feb 13

irwell1 says...

Boltonresident2012 wrote:
irwell1 wrote:
I think most of us will simply to continue to put food waste into the grey bin with the rest of the household rubbish. The reality is that hardly anyone separates their food waste into those silly containers we were given a while ago. To just say increasing recycling is the answer is so narrow minded. The real culprits are the Supermarkets and food packaging industries who continue to use unnecessary packaging. So Council Tax going up and more services taken away, well done to our Labour run council, they really are the party of the people aren't they.
Please talk for yourself in this and not for all of us. Most people I know are used to the small bins - and use them!

Last time they had 2 weekly collections it was a disaster, however this time, hopefully the grey bins will not stink in summer - sooner or later the bins will be coded - as tried elsewhere and people who put the lot together will be fined anyway.
From above, "Last time they had 2 weekly collections it was a disaster, however this time, hopefully the grey bins will not stink in summer."
For goodness sake, they are actually asking us to put food into the large GREEN bins which will be collected every TWO weeks, please understand that they are trying to keep a lid on this fact.
Also I simply cannot believe you are happy with having your bin microchipped, are you actually serious?
[quote][p][bold]Boltonresident2012[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]irwell1[/bold] wrote: I think most of us will simply to continue to put food waste into the grey bin with the rest of the household rubbish. The reality is that hardly anyone separates their food waste into those silly containers we were given a while ago. To just say increasing recycling is the answer is so narrow minded. The real culprits are the Supermarkets and food packaging industries who continue to use unnecessary packaging. So Council Tax going up and more services taken away, well done to our Labour run council, they really are the party of the people aren't they.[/p][/quote]Please talk for yourself in this and not for all of us. Most people I know are used to the small bins - and use them! Last time they had 2 weekly collections it was a disaster, however this time, hopefully the grey bins will not stink in summer - sooner or later the bins will be coded - as tried elsewhere and people who put the lot together will be fined anyway.[/p][/quote]From above, "Last time they had 2 weekly collections it was a disaster, however this time, hopefully the grey bins will not stink in summer." For goodness sake, they are actually asking us to put food into the large GREEN bins which will be collected every TWO weeks, please understand that they are trying to keep a lid on this fact. Also I simply cannot believe you are happy with having your bin microchipped, are you actually serious? irwell1

10:19pm Thu 14 Feb 13

SeptemberGirl says...

There is absolutely no need for weekly bin collections it good to see the council putting this in place. Other local authorities have tried and tested it and ultimately it saves money. People moaning need to actually give it a try first and I'm pretty sure for 99% of people it won't be a problem. People seem to think that their waste is the councils responsibility!! It is actually A very small amount of council tax that goes towards waste collections. If you're not prepared to recycle then you should struggle!
There is absolutely no need for weekly bin collections it good to see the council putting this in place. Other local authorities have tried and tested it and ultimately it saves money. People moaning need to actually give it a try first and I'm pretty sure for 99% of people it won't be a problem. People seem to think that their waste is the councils responsibility!! It is actually A very small amount of council tax that goes towards waste collections. If you're not prepared to recycle then you should struggle! SeptemberGirl

11:50pm Thu 14 Feb 13

Mossage82 says...

fitz108 wrote:
omg133 wrote:
Mossage82 wrote:
Don't forget your local household waste recycling centre is open 7 days a week as well if you need it.
sorry , i work 6 days a week , can you collect mine?
Why already having closed union road, and blackrod due to close are they not keeping these open to encourage people to take their rubbish to these places
Does not make sense, but nothing does where bolton council are concerned
It is a shame that some sites are closing but they need too much spending on them to bring them up to current regulations. It is nothing to do with Bolton MBC, it is the Greater Manchester Waste Disposal Authority which controls this.
[quote][p][bold]fitz108[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]omg133[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mossage82[/bold] wrote: Don't forget your local household waste recycling centre is open 7 days a week as well if you need it.[/p][/quote]sorry , i work 6 days a week , can you collect mine?[/p][/quote]Why already having closed union road, and blackrod due to close are they not keeping these open to encourage people to take their rubbish to these places Does not make sense, but nothing does where bolton council are concerned[/p][/quote]It is a shame that some sites are closing but they need too much spending on them to bring them up to current regulations. It is nothing to do with Bolton MBC, it is the Greater Manchester Waste Disposal Authority which controls this. Mossage82

6:54am Fri 15 Feb 13

Wigan Trotter says...

Marzi30

No, it's about some people always moaning about bins, gritting or some other petty issue and others like yourself, who support a different political party using the issues to have a swipe at the party in power when the party you support would be no different, if elected.

Why do think many are fed up with politic's and politician's, many of whom are only in it for what they can get out of it!
Marzi30 No, it's about some people always moaning about bins, gritting or some other petty issue and others like yourself, who support a different political party using the issues to have a swipe at the party in power when the party you support would be no different, if elected. Why do think many are fed up with politic's and politician's, many of whom are only in it for what they can get out of it! Wigan Trotter

8:17am Fri 15 Feb 13

hoboh2o says...

SeptemberGirl wrote:
There is absolutely no need for weekly bin collections it good to see the council putting this in place. Other local authorities have tried and tested it and ultimately it saves money. People moaning need to actually give it a try first and I'm pretty sure for 99% of people it won't be a problem. People seem to think that their waste is the councils responsibility!! It is actually A very small amount of council tax that goes towards waste collections. If you're not prepared to recycle then you should struggle!
You only born last September? The reason I ask it was tried before and failed, Morris and his mafia lied to gain power saying under Labour there would always be a weekly bin collection now they find bus stations and other projects to throw cash at. (Btw the town centre one way system ain't been ditched yet merely put on hold, you know were cars go one way and busses and taxi's the other)
[quote][p][bold]SeptemberGirl[/bold] wrote: There is absolutely no need for weekly bin collections it good to see the council putting this in place. Other local authorities have tried and tested it and ultimately it saves money. People moaning need to actually give it a try first and I'm pretty sure for 99% of people it won't be a problem. People seem to think that their waste is the councils responsibility!! It is actually A very small amount of council tax that goes towards waste collections. If you're not prepared to recycle then you should struggle![/p][/quote]You only born last September? The reason I ask it was tried before and failed, Morris and his mafia lied to gain power saying under Labour there would always be a weekly bin collection now they find bus stations and other projects to throw cash at. (Btw the town centre one way system ain't been ditched yet merely put on hold, you know were cars go one way and busses and taxi's the other) hoboh2o

8:23am Fri 15 Feb 13

irwell1 says...

SeptemberGirl wrote:
There is absolutely no need for weekly bin collections it good to see the council putting this in place. Other local authorities have tried and tested it and ultimately it saves money. People moaning need to actually give it a try first and I'm pretty sure for 99% of people it won't be a problem. People seem to think that their waste is the councils responsibility!! It is actually A very small amount of council tax that goes towards waste collections. If you're not prepared to recycle then you should struggle!
It's quite an effort to fit so much nonsense into such a few short sentences.
There is a need for weekly collections because we pay for it and it stops maggots and vermin being attracted to the area. Other local authorities may have tried it but so what? Do you have any facts to support your claim it saves money?
you say 99% of people won't have a problem with this, you have a short memory.
Waste collection is the council's responsibility, whenever it's collected.
Who cares how much Council Tax goes towards waste collection, the fact is rotting food should not be left anywhere for two weeks.
I probably recycle more than you. The fact is the Supermarkets and food packaging industries create too much unnecessary packaging.
[quote][p][bold]SeptemberGirl[/bold] wrote: There is absolutely no need for weekly bin collections it good to see the council putting this in place. Other local authorities have tried and tested it and ultimately it saves money. People moaning need to actually give it a try first and I'm pretty sure for 99% of people it won't be a problem. People seem to think that their waste is the councils responsibility!! It is actually A very small amount of council tax that goes towards waste collections. If you're not prepared to recycle then you should struggle![/p][/quote]It's quite an effort to fit so much nonsense into such a few short sentences. There is a need for weekly collections because we pay for it and it stops maggots and vermin being attracted to the area. Other local authorities may have tried it but so what? Do you have any facts to support your claim it saves money? you say 99% of people won't have a problem with this, you have a short memory. Waste collection is the council's responsibility, whenever it's collected. Who cares how much Council Tax goes towards waste collection, the fact is rotting food should not be left anywhere for two weeks. I probably recycle more than you. The fact is the Supermarkets and food packaging industries create too much unnecessary packaging. irwell1

8:35am Fri 15 Feb 13

Wigan Trotter says...

Judging by some of the comments on here, not all the rubbish is in the bins.

Some, it would appear is still in the mouth.

For goodness sake, get a life!
Judging by some of the comments on here, not all the rubbish is in the bins. Some, it would appear is still in the mouth. For goodness sake, get a life! Wigan Trotter

8:52am Fri 15 Feb 13

yonmons says...

I well remember the 2 weekly collections in Bolton Metro, It was a dismal failure (as I have said previously in this thread) Do people really have such short memories, do you not remember the wheelie bins packed to the gunnels, and blag bags of rubbish piled around them. Then the council refusing to take said bins, because they were "overfull" and excess bags being left. I regularly travelled to the incinerator plant at Raikes Lane to join the queues (yes queues) of vehicles waiting to empty rubbish. Lots of people were in the same boat. A local election was fought with the collection the top of the agenda. It was the promised by Labour to resume weekly collections that got them the majority control back from Liberals. Dont give me all this guff about "I recycle and am saving the planet" ** I ** recycle but expect my rotting rubbish to be collected on a weekly basis. When I go to my elderly mothers in Farnworth the mind boggles at the amount of bins and trays in her back yard. Absolute claptrap. Fortunately I live out of the area now, where I live we still use BINBAGS (remember them) we leave the bags out, and the council collects them. We have a green recycling bin for the usually stuff. Collected fortnightly. (even on bank holidays) IT WORKS ! so whats wrong with that, and why oh why all this turmoil over bins for goodness sake its a right mess.
I well remember the 2 weekly collections in Bolton Metro, It was a dismal failure (as I have said previously in this thread) Do people really have such short memories, do you not remember the wheelie bins packed to the gunnels, and blag bags of rubbish piled around them. Then the council refusing to take said bins, because they were "overfull" and excess bags being left. I regularly travelled to the incinerator plant at Raikes Lane to join the queues (yes queues) of vehicles waiting to empty rubbish. Lots of people were in the same boat. A local election was fought with the collection the top of the agenda. It was the promised by Labour to resume weekly collections that got them the majority control back from Liberals. Dont give me all this guff about "I recycle and am saving the planet" ** I ** recycle but expect my rotting rubbish to be collected on a weekly basis. When I go to my elderly mothers in Farnworth the mind boggles at the amount of bins and trays in her back yard. Absolute claptrap. Fortunately I live out of the area now, where I live we still use BINBAGS (remember them) we leave the bags out, and the council collects them. We have a green recycling bin for the usually stuff. Collected fortnightly. (even on bank holidays) IT WORKS ! so whats wrong with that, and why oh why all this turmoil over bins for goodness sake its a right mess. yonmons

9:42am Fri 15 Feb 13

tinypet says...

correct me if im wrong here, the green bins we could put fresh unused fruit and potatoe peelings in with the garden waste. Yet when i did this and placed it out, they didnt empty it, i was told when i rang it was contaminated. HOW? id only put in what they had said we could. I recycle and still fill the grey bin in a week. (family of 7) and before any trys to slate me, yes we both work full time on decent incomes!
correct me if im wrong here, the green bins we could put fresh unused fruit and potatoe peelings in with the garden waste. Yet when i did this and placed it out, they didnt empty it, i was told when i rang it was contaminated. HOW? id only put in what they had said we could. I recycle and still fill the grey bin in a week. (family of 7) and before any trys to slate me, yes we both work full time on decent incomes! tinypet

10:07am Fri 15 Feb 13

irwell1 says...

Wigan Trotter wrote:
Judging by some of the comments on here, not all the rubbish is in the bins.

Some, it would appear is still in the mouth.

For goodness sake, get a life!
You included it seems.
[quote][p][bold]Wigan Trotter[/bold] wrote: Judging by some of the comments on here, not all the rubbish is in the bins. Some, it would appear is still in the mouth. For goodness sake, get a life![/p][/quote]You included it seems. irwell1

10:19am Fri 15 Feb 13

irwell1 says...

tinypet wrote:
correct me if im wrong here, the green bins we could put fresh unused fruit and potatoe peelings in with the garden waste. Yet when i did this and placed it out, they didnt empty it, i was told when i rang it was contaminated. HOW? id only put in what they had said we could. I recycle and still fill the grey bin in a week. (family of 7) and before any trys to slate me, yes we both work full time on decent incomes!
We too put all our unused fruit and veg (not much i have to say) in the green bin, but they actually want us to put all our food waste into it as well, chicken carcasses, the bolognese leftovers etc everything. And this will be in there for up to TWO weeks, they are trying to keep a low profile about this.
Also as other people are saying on here, most of the current Labour councillors have been voted in because they promised NEVER to go to fortnightly, but have now double-crossed everyone.
[quote][p][bold]tinypet[/bold] wrote: correct me if im wrong here, the green bins we could put fresh unused fruit and potatoe peelings in with the garden waste. Yet when i did this and placed it out, they didnt empty it, i was told when i rang it was contaminated. HOW? id only put in what they had said we could. I recycle and still fill the grey bin in a week. (family of 7) and before any trys to slate me, yes we both work full time on decent incomes![/p][/quote]We too put all our unused fruit and veg (not much i have to say) in the green bin, but they actually want us to put all our food waste into it as well, chicken carcasses, the bolognese leftovers etc everything. And this will be in there for up to TWO weeks, they are trying to keep a low profile about this. Also as other people are saying on here, most of the current Labour councillors have been voted in because they promised NEVER to go to fortnightly, but have now double-crossed everyone. irwell1

10:52am Fri 15 Feb 13

Derbyshire White says...

As an ex Boltonian, I don't have any problem with the fortnightly collection system at all.

When it first started in our area about two years ago, I had the same misgivings that a lot of your correspondents seem to have. However they have proved to be unfounded. True, it takes a little more effort to recycle, but our bins are never filled to overflowing like they used to be.

We have a green bin (garden rubbish and peelings, dry food waste etc), and a brown bin for cardboard, paper and tins and a separate crate for glass which are all collected one week, and a black bin for everything else which is collected the next week.

The only thing we don't recycle is cooked food waste (chicken bones for example) which just go straight in to the black bin.

We have not had any problems with our council. We thought would not be able to cope with the collections. This has proved to be unfounded - if they miss a collection for any reason (usually the snow in this part of the world), they simply catch up a.s.a.p.

We no longer have the problems with bin bags ripped open by marauding dogs, cats or urban foxes etc that we used to have.

The main problem with the bins is not one of collection, but storage. People with little or no land tend to leave them out on the footpath, which causes an obstruction for pedestrians and especially pram and wheelchair users. Usually, the same thoughtless idiots who cannot be bothered to recycle are the same ones who leave their bins lying around everwhere.

All it takes is a little bit of thought, and the system works well.
As an ex Boltonian, I don't have any problem with the fortnightly collection system at all. When it first started in our area about two years ago, I had the same misgivings that a lot of your correspondents seem to have. However they have proved to be unfounded. True, it takes a little more effort to recycle, but our bins are never filled to overflowing like they used to be. We have a green bin (garden rubbish and peelings, dry food waste etc), and a brown bin for cardboard, paper and tins and a separate crate for glass which are all collected one week, and a black bin for everything else which is collected the next week. The only thing we don't recycle is cooked food waste (chicken bones for example) which just go straight in to the black bin. We have not had any problems with our council. We thought would not be able to cope with the collections. This has proved to be unfounded - if they miss a collection for any reason (usually the snow in this part of the world), they simply catch up a.s.a.p. We no longer have the problems with bin bags ripped open by marauding dogs, cats or urban foxes etc that we used to have. The main problem with the bins is not one of collection, but storage. People with little or no land tend to leave them out on the footpath, which causes an obstruction for pedestrians and especially pram and wheelchair users. Usually, the same thoughtless idiots who cannot be bothered to recycle are the same ones who leave their bins lying around everwhere. All it takes is a little bit of thought, and the system works well. Derbyshire White

11:33am Fri 15 Feb 13

wagstaff says...

omg133 wrote:
sorry not Wagstaff , i will be dumping my bags in your quarter filled bin
MORE THAN WELCOME OMG 133
[quote][p][bold]omg133[/bold] wrote: sorry not Wagstaff , i will be dumping my bags in your quarter filled bin[/p][/quote]MORE THAN WELCOME OMG 133 wagstaff

12:01pm Fri 15 Feb 13

roadkillking says...

since my wife, me and two young kids moved to our current home two years ago, our bin collection is: week1 grey bin, week 2 cream bin, week3 grey bin,week 4 red bin. we recycle as much as possible and always manage . the only frustrating thing is houses a few hundred yards away get the full works! at the end of the day councils need to save money.
since my wife, me and two young kids moved to our current home two years ago, our bin collection is: week1 grey bin, week 2 cream bin, week3 grey bin,week 4 red bin. we recycle as much as possible and always manage . the only frustrating thing is houses a few hundred yards away get the full works! at the end of the day councils need to save money. roadkillking

1:04pm Fri 15 Feb 13

Albinosupport says...

Since the introduction of recycling my grey bin is hardly ever full. I seperate everying into the correct bin, we don't have much use for the food waste bin as I make sure food it used and only buy what we need each week. Also if there are left overs I have a willing dog and two very willing rats to help dispose of them.
Since the introduction of recycling my grey bin is hardly ever full. I seperate everying into the correct bin, we don't have much use for the food waste bin as I make sure food it used and only buy what we need each week. Also if there are left overs I have a willing dog and two very willing rats to help dispose of them. Albinosupport

2:56pm Fri 15 Feb 13

rostron says...

Someone has quoted to go to recycling tips, well they are closing the Blackrod one down.This is used by Horwich, Westhoughton, Blackrod people, & now they want us to go on a hike to Raikes lane or beyond to do the same ! This one is very busy 7 days a wk, so why the closure?
Also been quoted about people obstructing pathways with bins,denying access to pushchairs etc, Well, tell the binmen that, as its a slalom course when they have left bins all over !
Someone has quoted to go to recycling tips, well they are closing the Blackrod one down.This is used by Horwich, Westhoughton, Blackrod people, & now they want us to go on a hike to Raikes lane or beyond to do the same ! This one is very busy 7 days a wk, so why the closure? Also been quoted about people obstructing pathways with bins,denying access to pushchairs etc, Well, tell the binmen that, as its a slalom course when they have left bins all over ! rostron

5:41pm Fri 15 Feb 13

Wigan Trotter says...

irwell1

I have!
irwell1 I have! Wigan Trotter

7:08pm Fri 15 Feb 13

JustBecause says...

Well if my bins not empty when I need it I will simply dump my rubbish, the council expect another 3.5 percent for doing less, well they can go to hell, the police are useless, the roads are knackard, and bolton is a **** hole, the council are just a bunch of idiots, Bolton has done this before and it failed !
Well if my bins not empty when I need it I will simply dump my rubbish, the council expect another 3.5 percent for doing less, well they can go to hell, the police are useless, the roads are knackard, and bolton is a **** hole, the council are just a bunch of idiots, Bolton has done this before and it failed ! JustBecause

7:18pm Fri 15 Feb 13

atlas123 says...

My grey bin goes out less than once a month as it never gets full. It rarely smells... I have no virmin... How is vormin going to get into the bins?
Get a grip people if the rest of the country copes I'm sure Bolton can.
My grey bin goes out less than once a month as it never gets full. It rarely smells... I have no virmin... How is vormin going to get into the bins? Get a grip people if the rest of the country copes I'm sure Bolton can. atlas123

10:57pm Fri 15 Feb 13

ALI MINIUM KHAN says...

blame the council lads who come and empty our bins at 100mph so they can finish at 1pm and go and do there 2nd jobs
blame the council lads who come and empty our bins at 100mph so they can finish at 1pm and go and do there 2nd jobs ALI MINIUM KHAN

11:19pm Fri 15 Feb 13

BWFC71 says...

atlas123 wrote:
My grey bin goes out less than once a month as it never gets full. It rarely smells... I have no virmin... How is vormin going to get into the bins?
Get a grip people if the rest of the country copes I'm sure Bolton can.
Not quite sure, but I do know that vermin eat their way into base of rubbish bins - and thats how vermin get in that way which then leads to maggots and then flies - now try a couple of weeks in decent temperature and then you will begin to smell the rubbish (as its natural due to the decaying process!). Also leads to an increase in vermin such as urban foxes who can actually knock over the bins - and also have you read/seen the news this week about an urban fox attacking a young baby??? (that was in an area of collections of every 2 weeks!!! - the smell attract the vermin due to teh vermins more acute sense of smell!)
[quote][p][bold]atlas123[/bold] wrote: My grey bin goes out less than once a month as it never gets full. It rarely smells... I have no virmin... How is vormin going to get into the bins? Get a grip people if the rest of the country copes I'm sure Bolton can.[/p][/quote]Not quite sure, but I do know that vermin eat their way into base of rubbish bins - and thats how vermin get in that way which then leads to maggots and then flies - now try a couple of weeks in decent temperature and then you will begin to smell the rubbish (as its natural due to the decaying process!). Also leads to an increase in vermin such as urban foxes who can actually knock over the bins - and also have you read/seen the news this week about an urban fox attacking a young baby??? (that was in an area of collections of every 2 weeks!!! - the smell attract the vermin due to teh vermins more acute sense of smell!) BWFC71

7:03am Sat 16 Feb 13

Wigan Trotter says...

I have never read as much rubbish in my live!

p..s. A bit rich for someone with a name like Ali Minium Khan to accuse others of having a second job.
I have never read as much rubbish in my live! p..s. A bit rich for someone with a name like Ali Minium Khan to accuse others of having a second job. Wigan Trotter

10:12am Sat 16 Feb 13

BWFC71 says...

roadkillking wrote:
since my wife, me and two young kids moved to our current home two years ago, our bin collection is: week1 grey bin, week 2 cream bin, week3 grey bin,week 4 red bin. we recycle as much as possible and always manage . the only frustrating thing is houses a few hundred yards away get the full works! at the end of the day councils need to save money.
But how is reducing a weekly collection to a fortnightly collection going to save money when you still have to pay the same number of crew members, still pay the insurance and upkeep of the vehicles, still pay for the fuel, Vehicle duty, etc, still have to pay rent for the land on which the trucks are stored, still ahve to pay 3rd party companies for various functions....

I see no saving whatsoever, in fact I see wastage in the finances!!! (pardon the pun)
[quote][p][bold]roadkillking[/bold] wrote: since my wife, me and two young kids moved to our current home two years ago, our bin collection is: week1 grey bin, week 2 cream bin, week3 grey bin,week 4 red bin. we recycle as much as possible and always manage . the only frustrating thing is houses a few hundred yards away get the full works! at the end of the day councils need to save money.[/p][/quote]But how is reducing a weekly collection to a fortnightly collection going to save money when you still have to pay the same number of crew members, still pay the insurance and upkeep of the vehicles, still pay for the fuel, Vehicle duty, etc, still have to pay rent for the land on which the trucks are stored, still ahve to pay 3rd party companies for various functions.... I see no saving whatsoever, in fact I see wastage in the finances!!! (pardon the pun) BWFC71

10:55am Sat 16 Feb 13

irwell1 says...

BWFC71 wrote:
roadkillking wrote:
since my wife, me and two young kids moved to our current home two years ago, our bin collection is: week1 grey bin, week 2 cream bin, week3 grey bin,week 4 red bin. we recycle as much as possible and always manage . the only frustrating thing is houses a few hundred yards away get the full works! at the end of the day councils need to save money.
But how is reducing a weekly collection to a fortnightly collection going to save money when you still have to pay the same number of crew members, still pay the insurance and upkeep of the vehicles, still pay for the fuel, Vehicle duty, etc, still have to pay rent for the land on which the trucks are stored, still ahve to pay 3rd party companies for various functions....

I see no saving whatsoever, in fact I see wastage in the finances!!! (pardon the pun)
Well spotted BWFC71. They are trying to say it will save money by less going into landfill, but people are already recycling whatever they can. They say we are putting too much food waste into the grey bins, BUT THEY HAVE NO FACTS TO SUPPORT THIS. It's basically the two faced Labour Party wanting to fall in line with other local authorities.
[quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]roadkillking[/bold] wrote: since my wife, me and two young kids moved to our current home two years ago, our bin collection is: week1 grey bin, week 2 cream bin, week3 grey bin,week 4 red bin. we recycle as much as possible and always manage . the only frustrating thing is houses a few hundred yards away get the full works! at the end of the day councils need to save money.[/p][/quote]But how is reducing a weekly collection to a fortnightly collection going to save money when you still have to pay the same number of crew members, still pay the insurance and upkeep of the vehicles, still pay for the fuel, Vehicle duty, etc, still have to pay rent for the land on which the trucks are stored, still ahve to pay 3rd party companies for various functions.... I see no saving whatsoever, in fact I see wastage in the finances!!! (pardon the pun)[/p][/quote]Well spotted BWFC71. They are trying to say it will save money by less going into landfill, but people are already recycling whatever they can. They say we are putting too much food waste into the grey bins, BUT THEY HAVE NO FACTS TO SUPPORT THIS. It's basically the two faced Labour Party wanting to fall in line with other local authorities. irwell1

4:25pm Sat 16 Feb 13

BWFC71 says...

I also forgot to mention that the fuel for the vehicles is bought in bulk and contracted to so many litres at such as price and neither can renage on that deal and I presume contracts have already been signed so no savings in fuel either!
I also forgot to mention that the fuel for the vehicles is bought in bulk and contracted to so many litres at such as price and neither can renage on that deal and I presume contracts have already been signed so no savings in fuel either! BWFC71

8:51am Sun 17 Feb 13

atlas123 says...

Rememberscarborough wrote:
Any suggestions about where to shove an unwanted turkey carcass at Christmas will be gratefully received because they surely won't fit in to one of those little boxes....
Break it up or put it straight in the green bin
[quote][p][bold]Rememberscarborough[/bold] wrote: Any suggestions about where to shove an unwanted turkey carcass at Christmas will be gratefully received because they surely won't fit in to one of those little boxes....[/p][/quote]Break it up or put it straight in the green bin atlas123

12:43pm Sun 17 Feb 13

Denis Tuborg says...

Public consultation (check), 8000 surveys sent out only 2000 returned, (check) 72% of those returned say they would not be effected by the managed weekly collection!(check) Majority of Bolton public in favour of fortnightly collection (check)
lip service paid to public consultation(check) cue council rubber stamp fornightly refuse collection (check)
Increase in vermin and maggot infestation (check) increase in fly tipping (check) Increase in number of verbal and physical assaults on refuse collection staff for refusing to take excess waste (check).
This is a retograde step, it didn't work the last time and I doubt this time will be any different.
Public consultation (check), 8000 surveys sent out only 2000 returned, (check) 72% of those returned say they would not be effected by the managed weekly collection!(check) Majority of Bolton public in favour of fortnightly collection (check) lip service paid to public consultation(check) cue council rubber stamp fornightly refuse collection (check) Increase in vermin and maggot infestation (check) increase in fly tipping (check) Increase in number of verbal and physical assaults on refuse collection staff for refusing to take excess waste (check). This is a retograde step, it didn't work the last time and I doubt this time will be any different. Denis Tuborg

12:43pm Sun 17 Feb 13

Denis Tuborg says...

Public consultation (check), 8000 surveys sent out only 2000 returned, (check) 72% of those returned say they would not be effected by the managed weekly collection!(check) Majority of Bolton public in favour of fortnightly collection (check)
lip service paid to public consultation(check) cue council rubber stamp fornightly refuse collection (check)
Increase in vermin and maggot infestation (check) increase in fly tipping (check) Increase in number of verbal and physical assaults on refuse collection staff for refusing to take excess waste (check).
This is a retograde step, it didn't work the last time and I doubt this time will be any different.
Public consultation (check), 8000 surveys sent out only 2000 returned, (check) 72% of those returned say they would not be effected by the managed weekly collection!(check) Majority of Bolton public in favour of fortnightly collection (check) lip service paid to public consultation(check) cue council rubber stamp fornightly refuse collection (check) Increase in vermin and maggot infestation (check) increase in fly tipping (check) Increase in number of verbal and physical assaults on refuse collection staff for refusing to take excess waste (check). This is a retograde step, it didn't work the last time and I doubt this time will be any different. Denis Tuborg

11:36am Tue 19 Feb 13

Jesusislord says...

georgethebrave wrote:
So our services are cut, council tax is increasing and the only people who don't lose out are the town hall chiefs like Asquith who have all had pay rises recently? Bolton is now running in parallel with Saddam's Iraq, the people starved while he lavished himself with palaces with gold taps! Us and them scenario which needs sorting in the next election's, get rid of the fat greedy pigs with their snouts in the trough!
It is exactly like Saddam's Iraq!! Remember the famous gassing of Johnson Fold a few years ago, and of course the illegal invasion of Wigan, and the torture in the police cells!! Of course in Iraq they fought back when Saddam tried to change the bin collections....
[quote][p][bold]georgethebrave[/bold] wrote: So our services are cut, council tax is increasing and the only people who don't lose out are the town hall chiefs like Asquith who have all had pay rises recently? Bolton is now running in parallel with Saddam's Iraq, the people starved while he lavished himself with palaces with gold taps! Us and them scenario which needs sorting in the next election's, get rid of the fat greedy pigs with their snouts in the trough![/p][/quote]It is exactly like Saddam's Iraq!! Remember the famous gassing of Johnson Fold a few years ago, and of course the illegal invasion of Wigan, and the torture in the police cells!! Of course in Iraq they fought back when Saddam tried to change the bin collections.... Jesusislord

11:39am Tue 19 Feb 13

Jesusislord says...

boltonnut wrote:
The bins will be emptied every two weeks,except,when there is inclement weather,providing all the wheels are attached,the bins are placed in the EXACT location,the bin man doesn't have a bad back and the moon is in the same ascendary as Venus. Sorry I don't mean to cause a stink.
Don't worry! A trite comment on an insignificant website is unlikely to cause a stink anywhere.
[quote][p][bold]boltonnut[/bold] wrote: The bins will be emptied every two weeks,except,when there is inclement weather,providing all the wheels are attached,the bins are placed in the EXACT location,the bin man doesn't have a bad back and the moon is in the same ascendary as Venus. Sorry I don't mean to cause a stink.[/p][/quote]Don't worry! A trite comment on an insignificant website is unlikely to cause a stink anywhere. Jesusislord

11:46am Tue 19 Feb 13

Jesusislord says...

irwell1 wrote:
hoboh2o wrote:
Why did the Lib-Dem’s get the boot from office? Ahhhh just remembered it was fortnightly bin collections. Anyone remember that top female Lib-Dem council leader commenting she could not believe how narrow minded the electorate were to vote them out over this, remember Morris and his 'never on our watch will the bins remain un-emptied for a fortnight'.
You have been warned Morris!
Spot on. Yes the Labour Party used it to get in power then go back on their promises. Why do people vote Labour?
Who knows?? It's nice to see the Tories finally getting England back to its rioty / recessiony best. And they're giving us millionaires £40,000 off our taxes in April while cutting council budgets. I like to call the Tories the 'sensible' party....
[quote][p][bold]irwell1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hoboh2o[/bold] wrote: Why did the Lib-Dem’s get the boot from office? Ahhhh just remembered it was fortnightly bin collections. Anyone remember that top female Lib-Dem council leader commenting she could not believe how narrow minded the electorate were to vote them out over this, remember Morris and his 'never on our watch will the bins remain un-emptied for a fortnight'. You have been warned Morris![/p][/quote]Spot on. Yes the Labour Party used it to get in power then go back on their promises. Why do people vote Labour?[/p][/quote]Who knows?? It's nice to see the Tories finally getting England back to its rioty / recessiony best. And they're giving us millionaires £40,000 off our taxes in April while cutting council budgets. I like to call the Tories the 'sensible' party.... Jesusislord

11:52am Tue 19 Feb 13

Jesusislord says...

omg133 wrote:
Mossage82 wrote:
ha haaa ! How much of a life do you get in with your 1 day off a week ?!
listen,, you go save the planet on your 1 man crusade ,, its called working and paying taxes,,probably supporting you !
Maybe if you learnt how to use punctuation and capital letters, you might be able to get a job where you only have to work 5 days a week? Just saying.
[quote][p][bold]omg133[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mossage82[/bold] wrote: ha haaa ! How much of a life do you get in with your 1 day off a week ?![/p][/quote]listen,, you go save the planet on your 1 man crusade ,, its called working and paying taxes,,probably supporting you ![/p][/quote]Maybe if you learnt how to use punctuation and capital letters, you might be able to get a job where you only have to work 5 days a week? Just saying. Jesusislord

11:58am Tue 19 Feb 13

Jesusislord says...

Kayj21 wrote:
Where are we to put an extra bin in most of the gardens in Bolton. I can't fit another in. It's a disgrace that the council tax is rising yet they are reducing a service witch is needed.
They're having a go at witches now?? This is spiraling out of control. But you're right, they should reduce other services. Like, I pay tax for schools, but I don't have kids. So let's cut some schools, but not bins. How does the council not GET IT?????
[quote][p][bold]Kayj21[/bold] wrote: Where are we to put an extra bin in most of the gardens in Bolton. I can't fit another in. It's a disgrace that the council tax is rising yet they are reducing a service witch is needed.[/p][/quote]They're having a go at witches now?? This is spiraling out of control. But you're right, they should reduce other services. Like, I pay tax for schools, but I don't have kids. So let's cut some schools, but not bins. How does the council not GET IT????? Jesusislord

12:06pm Tue 19 Feb 13

Jesusislord says...

BWFC71 wrote:
atlas123 wrote:
My grey bin goes out less than once a month as it never gets full. It rarely smells... I have no virmin... How is vormin going to get into the bins?
Get a grip people if the rest of the country copes I'm sure Bolton can.
Not quite sure, but I do know that vermin eat their way into base of rubbish bins - and thats how vermin get in that way which then leads to maggots and then flies - now try a couple of weeks in decent temperature and then you will begin to smell the rubbish (as its natural due to the decaying process!). Also leads to an increase in vermin such as urban foxes who can actually knock over the bins - and also have you read/seen the news this week about an urban fox attacking a young baby??? (that was in an area of collections of every 2 weeks!!! - the smell attract the vermin due to teh vermins more acute sense of smell!)
It's this kind of well-informed comment that I come to this website for...
[quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]atlas123[/bold] wrote: My grey bin goes out less than once a month as it never gets full. It rarely smells... I have no virmin... How is vormin going to get into the bins? Get a grip people if the rest of the country copes I'm sure Bolton can.[/p][/quote]Not quite sure, but I do know that vermin eat their way into base of rubbish bins - and thats how vermin get in that way which then leads to maggots and then flies - now try a couple of weeks in decent temperature and then you will begin to smell the rubbish (as its natural due to the decaying process!). Also leads to an increase in vermin such as urban foxes who can actually knock over the bins - and also have you read/seen the news this week about an urban fox attacking a young baby??? (that was in an area of collections of every 2 weeks!!! - the smell attract the vermin due to teh vermins more acute sense of smell!)[/p][/quote]It's this kind of well-informed comment that I come to this website for... Jesusislord

12:11pm Tue 19 Feb 13

Jesusislord says...

Denis Tuborg wrote:
Public consultation (check), 8000 surveys sent out only 2000 returned, (check) 72% of those returned say they would not be effected by the managed weekly collection!(check) Majority of Bolton public in favour of fortnightly collection (check)
lip service paid to public consultation(check) cue council rubber stamp fornightly refuse collection (check)
Increase in vermin and maggot infestation (check) increase in fly tipping (check) Increase in number of verbal and physical assaults on refuse collection staff for refusing to take excess waste (check).
This is a retograde step, it didn't work the last time and I doubt this time will be any different.
Hi Denis mate, you forgot "bit of moaning by ill-informed people on Bolton News website (check)". I loved your "increase in physical assaults on refuse staff". That's genius. There's nowt more likely cause a fight than refusing to collect an old chair on bin day!! By the way, what's a retograde?? Anything like retrograde?
[quote][p][bold]Denis Tuborg[/bold] wrote: Public consultation (check), 8000 surveys sent out only 2000 returned, (check) 72% of those returned say they would not be effected by the managed weekly collection!(check) Majority of Bolton public in favour of fortnightly collection (check) lip service paid to public consultation(check) cue council rubber stamp fornightly refuse collection (check) Increase in vermin and maggot infestation (check) increase in fly tipping (check) Increase in number of verbal and physical assaults on refuse collection staff for refusing to take excess waste (check). This is a retograde step, it didn't work the last time and I doubt this time will be any different.[/p][/quote]Hi Denis mate, you forgot "bit of moaning by ill-informed people on Bolton News website (check)". I loved your "increase in physical assaults on refuse staff". That's genius. There's nowt more likely cause a fight than refusing to collect an old chair on bin day!! By the way, what's a retograde?? Anything like retrograde? Jesusislord

2:18pm Tue 19 Feb 13

BWFC71 says...

Jesusislord wrote:
BWFC71 wrote:
atlas123 wrote:
My grey bin goes out less than once a month as it never gets full. It rarely smells... I have no virmin... How is vormin going to get into the bins?
Get a grip people if the rest of the country copes I'm sure Bolton can.
Not quite sure, but I do know that vermin eat their way into base of rubbish bins - and thats how vermin get in that way which then leads to maggots and then flies - now try a couple of weeks in decent temperature and then you will begin to smell the rubbish (as its natural due to the decaying process!). Also leads to an increase in vermin such as urban foxes who can actually knock over the bins - and also have you read/seen the news this week about an urban fox attacking a young baby??? (that was in an area of collections of every 2 weeks!!! - the smell attract the vermin due to teh vermins more acute sense of smell!)
It's this kind of well-informed comment that I come to this website for...
I am grateful for your feedback and I am glad you like my work, which is all factually correct.

FACT: Where bins have gone down to fortnightly there has been increased numbers of urban foxes

FACT: Where bins have gone fortnightly there has been an increase number of rats and other vermin

FACT: Where bins have gone fortnightly, during hot spells the smell of decaying rubbbish is at its highest (just think of a smell of a tip during summer months and thats whats happening in your bin)

FACT: Going fortnightly does not save a penny for the council, infact its wasting money due to crews and machinery not being deployed properly and teh cost of operating actually increases and not decreases!!!
[quote][p][bold]Jesusislord[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]atlas123[/bold] wrote: My grey bin goes out less than once a month as it never gets full. It rarely smells... I have no virmin... How is vormin going to get into the bins? Get a grip people if the rest of the country copes I'm sure Bolton can.[/p][/quote]Not quite sure, but I do know that vermin eat their way into base of rubbish bins - and thats how vermin get in that way which then leads to maggots and then flies - now try a couple of weeks in decent temperature and then you will begin to smell the rubbish (as its natural due to the decaying process!). Also leads to an increase in vermin such as urban foxes who can actually knock over the bins - and also have you read/seen the news this week about an urban fox attacking a young baby??? (that was in an area of collections of every 2 weeks!!! - the smell attract the vermin due to teh vermins more acute sense of smell!)[/p][/quote]It's this kind of well-informed comment that I come to this website for...[/p][/quote]I am grateful for your feedback and I am glad you like my work, which is all factually correct. FACT: Where bins have gone down to fortnightly there has been increased numbers of urban foxes FACT: Where bins have gone fortnightly there has been an increase number of rats and other vermin FACT: Where bins have gone fortnightly, during hot spells the smell of decaying rubbbish is at its highest (just think of a smell of a tip during summer months and thats whats happening in your bin) FACT: Going fortnightly does not save a penny for the council, infact its wasting money due to crews and machinery not being deployed properly and teh cost of operating actually increases and not decreases!!! BWFC71

4:06pm Tue 19 Feb 13

hoboh2o says...

Jesusislord wrote:
Denis Tuborg wrote:
Public consultation (check), 8000 surveys sent out only 2000 returned, (check) 72% of those returned say they would not be effected by the managed weekly collection!(check) Majority of Bolton public in favour of fortnightly collection (check)
lip service paid to public consultation(check) cue council rubber stamp fornightly refuse collection (check)
Increase in vermin and maggot infestation (check) increase in fly tipping (check) Increase in number of verbal and physical assaults on refuse collection staff for refusing to take excess waste (check).
This is a retograde step, it didn't work the last time and I doubt this time will be any different.
Hi Denis mate, you forgot "bit of moaning by ill-informed people on Bolton News website (check)". I loved your "increase in physical assaults on refuse staff". That's genius. There's nowt more likely cause a fight than refusing to collect an old chair on bin day!! By the way, what's a retograde?? Anything like retrograde?
Always one is there not?
Welcome to the comment section Mr Morris.
[quote][p][bold]Jesusislord[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Denis Tuborg[/bold] wrote: Public consultation (check), 8000 surveys sent out only 2000 returned, (check) 72% of those returned say they would not be effected by the managed weekly collection!(check) Majority of Bolton public in favour of fortnightly collection (check) lip service paid to public consultation(check) cue council rubber stamp fornightly refuse collection (check) Increase in vermin and maggot infestation (check) increase in fly tipping (check) Increase in number of verbal and physical assaults on refuse collection staff for refusing to take excess waste (check). This is a retograde step, it didn't work the last time and I doubt this time will be any different.[/p][/quote]Hi Denis mate, you forgot "bit of moaning by ill-informed people on Bolton News website (check)". I loved your "increase in physical assaults on refuse staff". That's genius. There's nowt more likely cause a fight than refusing to collect an old chair on bin day!! By the way, what's a retograde?? Anything like retrograde?[/p][/quote]Always one is there not? Welcome to the comment section Mr Morris. hoboh2o

5:11pm Tue 19 Feb 13

Wigan Trotter says...

Only two to go for a century.

Is there a prize for the most comments from the same person, repeats included.
Only two to go for a century. Is there a prize for the most comments from the same person, repeats included. Wigan Trotter

5:13pm Tue 19 Feb 13

Jesusislord says...

hoboh2o wrote:
Jesusislord wrote:
Denis Tuborg wrote:
Public consultation (check), 8000 surveys sent out only 2000 returned, (check) 72% of those returned say they would not be effected by the managed weekly collection!(check) Majority of Bolton public in favour of fortnightly collection (check)
lip service paid to public consultation(check) cue council rubber stamp fornightly refuse collection (check)
Increase in vermin and maggot infestation (check) increase in fly tipping (check) Increase in number of verbal and physical assaults on refuse collection staff for refusing to take excess waste (check).
This is a retograde step, it didn't work the last time and I doubt this time will be any different.
Hi Denis mate, you forgot "bit of moaning by ill-informed people on Bolton News website (check)". I loved your "increase in physical assaults on refuse staff". That's genius. There's nowt more likely cause a fight than refusing to collect an old chair on bin day!! By the way, what's a retograde?? Anything like retrograde?
Always one is there not?
Welcome to the comment section Mr Morris.
Why thank you kind sir!! Although, technically I'm not one, I'm part of a trinity. Anyway, now we're friends, you can just call me Jesus. Careful how you use it though. The other day I thought someone was shouting me, butt it turned out they'd just stubbed their toe!!

Anyway, you don't have to reply. If you just think stuff in your head, I'll hear it, and reply via a little voice in your mind. It's how the whole prayer thing works....
[quote][p][bold]hoboh2o[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jesusislord[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Denis Tuborg[/bold] wrote: Public consultation (check), 8000 surveys sent out only 2000 returned, (check) 72% of those returned say they would not be effected by the managed weekly collection!(check) Majority of Bolton public in favour of fortnightly collection (check) lip service paid to public consultation(check) cue council rubber stamp fornightly refuse collection (check) Increase in vermin and maggot infestation (check) increase in fly tipping (check) Increase in number of verbal and physical assaults on refuse collection staff for refusing to take excess waste (check). This is a retograde step, it didn't work the last time and I doubt this time will be any different.[/p][/quote]Hi Denis mate, you forgot "bit of moaning by ill-informed people on Bolton News website (check)". I loved your "increase in physical assaults on refuse staff". That's genius. There's nowt more likely cause a fight than refusing to collect an old chair on bin day!! By the way, what's a retograde?? Anything like retrograde?[/p][/quote]Always one is there not? Welcome to the comment section Mr Morris.[/p][/quote]Why thank you kind sir!! Although, technically I'm not one, I'm part of a trinity. Anyway, now we're friends, you can just call me Jesus. Careful how you use it though. The other day I thought someone was shouting me, butt it turned out they'd just stubbed their toe!! Anyway, you don't have to reply. If you just think stuff in your head, I'll hear it, and reply via a little voice in your mind. It's how the whole prayer thing works.... Jesusislord

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