Former Accrington pub landlady overpaid £17k

The Bolton News: Former Accrington pub landlady overpaid £17k Former Accrington pub landlady overpaid £17k

A FORMER pub landlady continued to claim benefits despite, at one stage, having £27,000 in her bank account.

Over a three-year period, Sandra Meyer received a total overpayment of £17,000 in employment and support allowance, council tax and housing benefits, Blackburn magistrates heard.

Meyer, 57, of Marlborough Road, Accrington, pleaded guilty to failing to notify a change of circumstances.

She was made subject to a two-month curfew between 9pm and 7am and ordered to pay £145 costs. The court heard arrangements had been made to recover the overpayment.

Parveen Akhtar, prosecuting, said Meyer told investigators she believed if she had less than £16,000 in the bank she would still be entitled to benefits.

Miss Akhtar said: “She claimed she did not know she had more than £16,000 in the bank although at one point she had £27,000.

“She denied doing anything intentionally dishonest but accepted she had failed to provide information.”

Graeme Parkinson, defending, said Meyer had worked as a licensee for four years but had come out of the pub on doctor’s orders because of physical and mental problems.

He said: “She was not involved in the realisation of the assets in the pub and money was paid into her account.

“Around the same time, she started to receive payments of £500 from the Child Support Agency. She did not keep an eye on her bank balance.

“For a few weeks she was over the limit by a significant amount and on other occasions by a lower amount.”

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5:08pm Mon 17 Feb 14

Lancs - pensioner says...

Another one, this is getting beyond a joke, no wonder peoples attitudes are changeling towards people like this on benefits, especially after watching Benefits Street and seeing this in the LT every other day.
I'd like to say if she had been Underpaid I bet she would have kept an eye on it,!!!
Another one, this is getting beyond a joke, no wonder peoples attitudes are changeling towards people like this on benefits, especially after watching Benefits Street and seeing this in the LT every other day. I'd like to say if she had been Underpaid I bet she would have kept an eye on it,!!! Lancs - pensioner

5:32pm Mon 17 Feb 14

steve18gls says...

Theiving ****, didn't know my arse !
Theiving ****, didn't know my arse ! steve18gls

6:15pm Mon 17 Feb 14

mmickk says...

This is where the law is wrong someone that has in effect partly worked for the tax man collecting vat in the pub trade and saved instead of blowing every penny. Yet the more tax you pay the less you get back she should be entitled to more. I guess the above posters sit on there backsides all day expecting taxpayers to work to pay there benefits. This lady has paid into the system not like benefit street!
This is where the law is wrong someone that has in effect partly worked for the tax man collecting vat in the pub trade and saved instead of blowing every penny. Yet the more tax you pay the less you get back she should be entitled to more. I guess the above posters sit on there backsides all day expecting taxpayers to work to pay there benefits. This lady has paid into the system not like benefit street! mmickk

6:37pm Mon 17 Feb 14

HarryBosch says...

mmickk wrote:
This is where the law is wrong someone that has in effect partly worked for the tax man collecting vat in the pub trade and saved instead of blowing every penny. Yet the more tax you pay the less you get back she should be entitled to more. I guess the above posters sit on there backsides all day expecting taxpayers to work to pay there benefits. This lady has paid into the system not like benefit street!
I understand what you're saying, but you're wrong. You're confusing benefits with insurance. The benefits system exists to help the poorest people who have no means of supporting themselves and their families. You can take out insurance policies to cater for such an unexpected period of sickness or unemployment. The benefits system allows you to retain a certain amount of money, up to £16,000. She has a responsibility, when claiming benefits, to declare any monies between £5,000 and £16,000. She tried to play the system and, quite rightly, was prosecuted when it was discovered.
In this day and age you cannot hide money from the DWP or HMRC, you will, eventually be found out.
[quote][p][bold]mmickk[/bold] wrote: This is where the law is wrong someone that has in effect partly worked for the tax man collecting vat in the pub trade and saved instead of blowing every penny. Yet the more tax you pay the less you get back she should be entitled to more. I guess the above posters sit on there backsides all day expecting taxpayers to work to pay there benefits. This lady has paid into the system not like benefit street![/p][/quote]I understand what you're saying, but you're wrong. You're confusing benefits with insurance. The benefits system exists to help the poorest people who have no means of supporting themselves and their families. You can take out insurance policies to cater for such an unexpected period of sickness or unemployment. The benefits system allows you to retain a certain amount of money, up to £16,000. She has a responsibility, when claiming benefits, to declare any monies between £5,000 and £16,000. She tried to play the system and, quite rightly, was prosecuted when it was discovered. In this day and age you cannot hide money from the DWP or HMRC, you will, eventually be found out. HarryBosch

7:37pm Mon 17 Feb 14

steve18gls says...

mmickk wrote:
This is where the law is wrong someone that has in effect partly worked for the tax man collecting vat in the pub trade and saved instead of blowing every penny. Yet the more tax you pay the less you get back she should be entitled to more. I guess the above posters sit on there backsides all day expecting taxpayers to work to pay there benefits. This lady has paid into the system not like benefit street!
Might be a surprise to you pal, that people can have an opinion and still be in fulltime work believe it or not ! With a statement like yours you must be a dole scrounger.
[quote][p][bold]mmickk[/bold] wrote: This is where the law is wrong someone that has in effect partly worked for the tax man collecting vat in the pub trade and saved instead of blowing every penny. Yet the more tax you pay the less you get back she should be entitled to more. I guess the above posters sit on there backsides all day expecting taxpayers to work to pay there benefits. This lady has paid into the system not like benefit street![/p][/quote]Might be a surprise to you pal, that people can have an opinion and still be in fulltime work believe it or not ! With a statement like yours you must be a dole scrounger. steve18gls

7:47pm Mon 17 Feb 14

Lancs - pensioner says...

mmickk wrote:
This is where the law is wrong someone that has in effect partly worked for the tax man collecting vat in the pub trade and saved instead of blowing every penny. Yet the more tax you pay the less you get back she should be entitled to more. I guess the above posters sit on there backsides all day expecting taxpayers to work to pay there benefits. This lady has paid into the system not like benefit street!
Am I missing something here, she had £27,000 in the bank and she could claim benefits, where's the bloody form and who do I send it to, I would say to you Mick did Mrs Meyer played guilty or not? Read above for the answer!
[quote][p][bold]mmickk[/bold] wrote: This is where the law is wrong someone that has in effect partly worked for the tax man collecting vat in the pub trade and saved instead of blowing every penny. Yet the more tax you pay the less you get back she should be entitled to more. I guess the above posters sit on there backsides all day expecting taxpayers to work to pay there benefits. This lady has paid into the system not like benefit street![/p][/quote]Am I missing something here, she had £27,000 in the bank and she could claim benefits, where's the bloody form and who do I send it to, I would say to you Mick did Mrs Meyer played guilty or not? Read above for the answer! Lancs - pensioner

8:44pm Mon 17 Feb 14

deejayfatboy says...

stuff the cash in your mattress!! and make sure you renew all your notes every five years or so or they will be worth nowt!!!
stuff the cash in your mattress!! and make sure you renew all your notes every five years or so or they will be worth nowt!!! deejayfatboy

9:03pm Mon 17 Feb 14

mmickk says...

steve18gls wrote:
mmickk wrote:
This is where the law is wrong someone that has in effect partly worked for the tax man collecting vat in the pub trade and saved instead of blowing every penny. Yet the more tax you pay the less you get back she should be entitled to more. I guess the above posters sit on there backsides all day expecting taxpayers to work to pay there benefits. This lady has paid into the system not like benefit street!
Might be a surprise to you pal, that people can have an opinion and still be in fulltime work believe it or not ! With a statement like yours you must be a dole scrounger.
Never been able to claim benefits because I have savings. Yet I have to pay taxes to keep the benefit brigade.
[quote][p][bold]steve18gls[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mmickk[/bold] wrote: This is where the law is wrong someone that has in effect partly worked for the tax man collecting vat in the pub trade and saved instead of blowing every penny. Yet the more tax you pay the less you get back she should be entitled to more. I guess the above posters sit on there backsides all day expecting taxpayers to work to pay there benefits. This lady has paid into the system not like benefit street![/p][/quote]Might be a surprise to you pal, that people can have an opinion and still be in fulltime work believe it or not ! With a statement like yours you must be a dole scrounger.[/p][/quote]Never been able to claim benefits because I have savings. Yet I have to pay taxes to keep the benefit brigade. mmickk

9:04pm Mon 17 Feb 14

2 for 5p ridesagain says...

Publican / Thief. Same. Differnce
Publican / Thief. Same. Differnce 2 for 5p ridesagain

11:08pm Mon 17 Feb 14

thoroughbred says...

2 for 5p ridesagain wrote:
Publican / Thief. Same. Differnce
Hey Gobby, you nasty piece of sh*t, you have obviously never walked 24 hours in a publicans shoes, these people are doing double the hours of most folk and struggling in today's pub trade.
[quote][p][bold]2 for 5p ridesagain[/bold] wrote: Publican / Thief. Same. Differnce[/p][/quote]Hey Gobby, you nasty piece of sh*t, you have obviously never walked 24 hours in a publicans shoes, these people are doing double the hours of most folk and struggling in today's pub trade. thoroughbred

11:24pm Mon 17 Feb 14

time will tell says...

Lancs - pensioner wrote:
mmickk wrote:
This is where the law is wrong someone that has in effect partly worked for the tax man collecting vat in the pub trade and saved instead of blowing every penny. Yet the more tax you pay the less you get back she should be entitled to more. I guess the above posters sit on there backsides all day expecting taxpayers to work to pay there benefits. This lady has paid into the system not like benefit street!
Am I missing something here, she had £27,000 in the bank and she could claim benefits, where's the bloody form and who do I send it to, I would say to you Mick did Mrs Meyer played guilty or not? Read above for the answer!
You`ve obviously got a big chip on your shoulder because you can`t claim Pension Credit.
[quote][p][bold]Lancs - pensioner[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mmickk[/bold] wrote: This is where the law is wrong someone that has in effect partly worked for the tax man collecting vat in the pub trade and saved instead of blowing every penny. Yet the more tax you pay the less you get back she should be entitled to more. I guess the above posters sit on there backsides all day expecting taxpayers to work to pay there benefits. This lady has paid into the system not like benefit street![/p][/quote]Am I missing something here, she had £27,000 in the bank and she could claim benefits, where's the bloody form and who do I send it to, I would say to you Mick did Mrs Meyer played guilty or not? Read above for the answer![/p][/quote]You`ve obviously got a big chip on your shoulder because you can`t claim Pension Credit. time will tell

7:18am Tue 18 Feb 14

Akkybro says...

Am I right in thinking that had this woman blown 15K on alcohol/fags etc instead of saving responsibly then everything would be ok she would not be labeled a benefit scrounger by some of the above posters?
Am I right in thinking that had this woman blown 15K on alcohol/fags etc instead of saving responsibly then everything would be ok she would not be labeled a benefit scrounger by some of the above posters? Akkybro

9:42am Tue 18 Feb 14

HarryBosch says...

Akkybro wrote:
Am I right in thinking that had this woman blown 15K on alcohol/fags etc instead of saving responsibly then everything would be ok she would not be labeled a benefit scrounger by some of the above posters?
You would be right in thinking that since she had £27,000 in the bank then she had no entitlement to benefits!
Let me put it another way - Asian shopkeeper works all his life and saves up a hundred grand because he doesn't smoke or drink. Then at the age of 57 he has a heart attack and can't work. Is it right for him to claim benefits?
There is a cut off point in savings as I described in my previous post!
[quote][p][bold]Akkybro[/bold] wrote: Am I right in thinking that had this woman blown 15K on alcohol/fags etc instead of saving responsibly then everything would be ok she would not be labeled a benefit scrounger by some of the above posters?[/p][/quote]You would be right in thinking that since she had £27,000 in the bank then she had no entitlement to benefits! Let me put it another way - Asian shopkeeper works all his life and saves up a hundred grand because he doesn't smoke or drink. Then at the age of 57 he has a heart attack and can't work. Is it right for him to claim benefits? There is a cut off point in savings as I described in my previous post! HarryBosch

11:05am Tue 18 Feb 14

Lancs - pensioner says...

time will tell wrote:
Lancs - pensioner wrote:
mmickk wrote:
This is where the law is wrong someone that has in effect partly worked for the tax man collecting vat in the pub trade and saved instead of blowing every penny. Yet the more tax you pay the less you get back she should be entitled to more. I guess the above posters sit on there backsides all day expecting taxpayers to work to pay there benefits. This lady has paid into the system not like benefit street!
Am I missing something here, she had £27,000 in the bank and she could claim benefits, where's the bloody form and who do I send it to, I would say to you Mick did Mrs Meyer played guilty or not? Read above for the answer!
You`ve obviously got a big chip on your shoulder because you can`t claim Pension Credit.
That's my whole point I don't want to, benefits are quite rightly for those who desperately head it and the more people steal from benefits the less the desperate will get, remember benefits are for the needy hopefully for a short period, NOT a way of life.
[quote][p][bold]time will tell[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lancs - pensioner[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mmickk[/bold] wrote: This is where the law is wrong someone that has in effect partly worked for the tax man collecting vat in the pub trade and saved instead of blowing every penny. Yet the more tax you pay the less you get back she should be entitled to more. I guess the above posters sit on there backsides all day expecting taxpayers to work to pay there benefits. This lady has paid into the system not like benefit street![/p][/quote]Am I missing something here, she had £27,000 in the bank and she could claim benefits, where's the bloody form and who do I send it to, I would say to you Mick did Mrs Meyer played guilty or not? Read above for the answer![/p][/quote]You`ve obviously got a big chip on your shoulder because you can`t claim Pension Credit.[/p][/quote]That's my whole point I don't want to, benefits are quite rightly for those who desperately head it and the more people steal from benefits the less the desperate will get, remember benefits are for the needy hopefully for a short period, NOT a way of life. Lancs - pensioner

3:30pm Tue 18 Feb 14

HarryBosch says...

mmickk wrote:
steve18gls wrote:
mmickk wrote:
This is where the law is wrong someone that has in effect partly worked for the tax man collecting vat in the pub trade and saved instead of blowing every penny. Yet the more tax you pay the less you get back she should be entitled to more. I guess the above posters sit on there backsides all day expecting taxpayers to work to pay there benefits. This lady has paid into the system not like benefit street!
Might be a surprise to you pal, that people can have an opinion and still be in fulltime work believe it or not ! With a statement like yours you must be a dole scrounger.
Never been able to claim benefits because I have savings. Yet I have to pay taxes to keep the benefit brigade.
This woman is one of the "benefit brigade" you are trying to defend! You are paying your taxes and this woman, with £27,000 in the bank, is claiming out of the money you paid in! And you think that's right? You're even more stupid than I thought you were the last time we crossed keys!
[quote][p][bold]mmickk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]steve18gls[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mmickk[/bold] wrote: This is where the law is wrong someone that has in effect partly worked for the tax man collecting vat in the pub trade and saved instead of blowing every penny. Yet the more tax you pay the less you get back she should be entitled to more. I guess the above posters sit on there backsides all day expecting taxpayers to work to pay there benefits. This lady has paid into the system not like benefit street![/p][/quote]Might be a surprise to you pal, that people can have an opinion and still be in fulltime work believe it or not ! With a statement like yours you must be a dole scrounger.[/p][/quote]Never been able to claim benefits because I have savings. Yet I have to pay taxes to keep the benefit brigade.[/p][/quote]This woman is one of the "benefit brigade" you are trying to defend! You are paying your taxes and this woman, with £27,000 in the bank, is claiming out of the money you paid in! And you think that's right? You're even more stupid than I thought you were the last time we crossed keys! HarryBosch

5:15pm Tue 18 Feb 14

DaveBurnley says...

Whilst this is going on, our respected MPs are claiming expenses and charging for second homes like it's Christmas every day. It's all within the rules that they have written for themselves so they can do no wrong.

It' really is a different set of rules for them, normal ethics don't apply in their wonderland.
Whilst this is going on, our respected MPs are claiming expenses and charging for second homes like it's Christmas every day. It's all within the rules that they have written for themselves so they can do no wrong. It' really is a different set of rules for them, normal ethics don't apply in their wonderland. DaveBurnley

8:03pm Tue 18 Feb 14

Lancs - pensioner says...

DaveBurnley wrote:
Whilst this is going on, our respected MPs are claiming expenses and charging for second homes like it's Christmas every day. It's all within the rules that they have written for themselves so they can do no wrong.

It' really is a different set of rules for them, normal ethics don't apply in their wonderland.
True, very true, but that's another can of worms!!
[quote][p][bold]DaveBurnley[/bold] wrote: Whilst this is going on, our respected MPs are claiming expenses and charging for second homes like it's Christmas every day. It's all within the rules that they have written for themselves so they can do no wrong. It' really is a different set of rules for them, normal ethics don't apply in their wonderland.[/p][/quote]True, very true, but that's another can of worms!! Lancs - pensioner

2:59pm Thu 20 Feb 14

thoroughbred says...

HarryBosch wrote:
mmickk wrote:
steve18gls wrote:
mmickk wrote:
This is where the law is wrong someone that has in effect partly worked for the tax man collecting vat in the pub trade and saved instead of blowing every penny. Yet the more tax you pay the less you get back she should be entitled to more. I guess the above posters sit on there backsides all day expecting taxpayers to work to pay there benefits. This lady has paid into the system not like benefit street!
Might be a surprise to you pal, that people can have an opinion and still be in fulltime work believe it or not ! With a statement like yours you must be a dole scrounger.
Never been able to claim benefits because I have savings. Yet I have to pay taxes to keep the benefit brigade.
This woman is one of the "benefit brigade" you are trying to defend! You are paying your taxes and this woman, with £27,000 in the bank, is claiming out of the money you paid in! And you think that's right? You're even more stupid than I thought you were the last time we crossed keys!
If only you knew the facts, you keep harping on about 27k in her bank, this amount was only realised when her family liquidated the business she had been forced to quit, the amount was only in her bank for a few weeks and went to pay off debts accumulated during illness. No she doesn't smoke, drink, do drugs, have tattoos, plastic nails, fancy holidays, designer clothing, stacks of handbags, hair do's, or even own her own home. She is one poorly lady. I know I was in court to see. LET have once again taken just a snippet of this case from another newspaper and do not have the full facts. Don't tar all benefit cheats with the same brush, there may be one or two exceptions.
[quote][p][bold]HarryBosch[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mmickk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]steve18gls[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mmickk[/bold] wrote: This is where the law is wrong someone that has in effect partly worked for the tax man collecting vat in the pub trade and saved instead of blowing every penny. Yet the more tax you pay the less you get back she should be entitled to more. I guess the above posters sit on there backsides all day expecting taxpayers to work to pay there benefits. This lady has paid into the system not like benefit street![/p][/quote]Might be a surprise to you pal, that people can have an opinion and still be in fulltime work believe it or not ! With a statement like yours you must be a dole scrounger.[/p][/quote]Never been able to claim benefits because I have savings. Yet I have to pay taxes to keep the benefit brigade.[/p][/quote]This woman is one of the "benefit brigade" you are trying to defend! You are paying your taxes and this woman, with £27,000 in the bank, is claiming out of the money you paid in! And you think that's right? You're even more stupid than I thought you were the last time we crossed keys![/p][/quote]If only you knew the facts, you keep harping on about 27k in her bank, this amount was only realised when her family liquidated the business she had been forced to quit, the amount was only in her bank for a few weeks and went to pay off debts accumulated during illness. No she doesn't smoke, drink, do drugs, have tattoos, plastic nails, fancy holidays, designer clothing, stacks of handbags, hair do's, or even own her own home. She is one poorly lady. I know I was in court to see. LET have once again taken just a snippet of this case from another newspaper and do not have the full facts. Don't tar all benefit cheats with the same brush, there may be one or two exceptions. thoroughbred

12:30pm Fri 21 Feb 14

HecticBigBoy says...

Lancs - pensioner wrote:
time will tell wrote:
Lancs - pensioner wrote:
mmickk wrote: This is where the law is wrong someone that has in effect partly worked for the tax man collecting vat in the pub trade and saved instead of blowing every penny. Yet the more tax you pay the less you get back she should be entitled to more. I guess the above posters sit on there backsides all day expecting taxpayers to work to pay there benefits. This lady has paid into the system not like benefit street!
Am I missing something here, she had £27,000 in the bank and she could claim benefits, where's the bloody form and who do I send it to, I would say to you Mick did Mrs Meyer played guilty or not? Read above for the answer!
You`ve obviously got a big chip on your shoulder because you can`t claim Pension Credit.
That's my whole point I don't want to, benefits are quite rightly for those who desperately head it and the more people steal from benefits the less the desperate will get, remember benefits are for the needy hopefully for a short period, NOT a way of life.
Sadly for far to many years the welfare state has been easy pickings for the idle of this country, why do we tolerate it?

I am 50 have always worked and never claimed a penny, in the current climate I struggle to make ends meet but to cover this I took a part time job in addition to my full time employment. I can't afford sky tv. can't afford 42" plasma tv's. can't afford to drink every night (not that i want to) etc. etc. etc.

The house across from me has a couple that have never worked, have 4 children (different fathers i might add), have sky, have the big telly, stand every night on the street drinking, smoking, throwing their rubbish in the gutter (WHERE THEY BELONG) shouting and swearing at the kids and being bascially horrible neighbours.

When will this country stop making it a career to 'have children' ?? The more they have the better off they become. I know the system is being tightened but the welfare state should be there to keep people above the bread line and NOT to encourage lazy people to lie back think of England and bring another probable scrounger into the World.

End of rant.
[quote][p][bold]Lancs - pensioner[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]time will tell[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lancs - pensioner[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mmickk[/bold] wrote: This is where the law is wrong someone that has in effect partly worked for the tax man collecting vat in the pub trade and saved instead of blowing every penny. Yet the more tax you pay the less you get back she should be entitled to more. I guess the above posters sit on there backsides all day expecting taxpayers to work to pay there benefits. This lady has paid into the system not like benefit street![/p][/quote]Am I missing something here, she had £27,000 in the bank and she could claim benefits, where's the bloody form and who do I send it to, I would say to you Mick did Mrs Meyer played guilty or not? Read above for the answer![/p][/quote]You`ve obviously got a big chip on your shoulder because you can`t claim Pension Credit.[/p][/quote]That's my whole point I don't want to, benefits are quite rightly for those who desperately head it and the more people steal from benefits the less the desperate will get, remember benefits are for the needy hopefully for a short period, NOT a way of life.[/p][/quote]Sadly for far to many years the welfare state has been easy pickings for the idle of this country, why do we tolerate it? I am 50 have always worked and never claimed a penny, in the current climate I struggle to make ends meet but to cover this I took a part time job in addition to my full time employment. I can't afford sky tv. can't afford 42" plasma tv's. can't afford to drink every night (not that i want to) etc. etc. etc. The house across from me has a couple that have never worked, have 4 children (different fathers i might add), have sky, have the big telly, stand every night on the street drinking, smoking, throwing their rubbish in the gutter (WHERE THEY BELONG) shouting and swearing at the kids and being bascially horrible neighbours. When will this country stop making it a career to 'have children' ?? The more they have the better off they become. I know the system is being tightened but the welfare state should be there to keep people above the bread line and NOT to encourage lazy people to lie back think of England and bring another probable scrounger into the World. End of rant. HecticBigBoy

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