Bacup businessman hits out at ban on security shutters

The Bolton News: Shazad Iqbal outside Chixy's Chicken Shazad Iqbal outside Chixy's Chicken

A BACUP man claims his business is being driven into the ground due to council rules on shop shutters.

Shazad Iqbal has been in charge of Chixy’s Chicken Shop in Union Street for 18 months but says he could be forced to close after Rossendale Council fined him £2,500 for installing metal shutters without their permission.

He lost his case in Burnley Magistrates’ Court on Thursday and must pay the costs within three weeks.

Mr Iqbal, who employs five staff, said officials must accept the fact that Bacup has a vandalism problem and that small businesses depend on shutters for security. Because of the town’s status as an urban conservation area, certain types of shutter are banned.

Mr Iqbal said: “I took my fee to the council to apply for planning permission and was told bluntly that I would not be successful.

“I’ve had windows and doors smashed and someone trying to rob the till and computer. I can’t take any chances. I even offered to only put them down from 11pm to 7am, or put in shutters with bigger holes.”

Shutters that have already been in place for four years are not affected by the ruling and Greensclough councillor Jimmy Eaton said: “I have contacted the licensing department asking to review the entire situation. We can’t have one rule for one business and one rule for another.”

A council spokesman said: “There are several other ways businesses can secure their properties including internal shutters and lattice type external shutters.”

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11:16am Mon 3 Sep 12

kempy says...

bloody council jobs worths they look really nice shutters maybe its because they are tory blue if red you may have got away with it.
bloody council jobs worths they look really nice shutters maybe its because they are tory blue if red you may have got away with it. kempy

11:18am Mon 3 Sep 12

kempy says...

Get a petiton going
Get a petiton going kempy

12:16pm Mon 3 Sep 12

jack daniels says...

As a businessman le would be aware of policies and procedures around owning a running a shop. It really is his own fault for not getting advice first and then getting permission through the correct channels. It's not that shutters are banned; just the ones he had fitted without permission.

There are rules in place for a reason...
As a businessman le would be aware of policies and procedures around owning a running a shop. It really is his own fault for not getting advice first and then getting permission through the correct channels. It's not that shutters are banned; just the ones he had fitted without permission. There are rules in place for a reason... jack daniels

12:17pm Mon 3 Sep 12

her from here says...

It's about time the council sorted this out it's gone on long enough.Surely there should be some compromise so the shopkeepers can keep their propertys safe .
What are the police doing about this it's gone on before the cut backs.where have they been when the vandalism has happened
It's about time the council sorted this out it's gone on long enough.Surely there should be some compromise so the shopkeepers can keep their propertys safe . What are the police doing about this it's gone on before the cut backs.where have they been when the vandalism has happened her from here

1:02pm Mon 3 Sep 12

disgusted tunbridge wells says...

If Stevie Wonder wasn't looking after the CCTV people wouldn't need shutters
If Stevie Wonder wasn't looking after the CCTV people wouldn't need shutters disgusted tunbridge wells

1:03pm Mon 3 Sep 12

disgusted tunbridge wells says...

If Stevie Wonder wasn't looking after the CCTV people wouldn't need shutters
If Stevie Wonder wasn't looking after the CCTV people wouldn't need shutters disgusted tunbridge wells

1:10pm Mon 3 Sep 12

GAC says...

her from here wrote:
It's about time the council sorted this out it's gone on long enough.Surely there should be some compromise so the shopkeepers can keep their propertys safe .
What are the police doing about this it's gone on before the cut backs.where have they been when the vandalism has happened
seriously no one at rbc can make a decision as if something comes back to bite them they are scared of getting fired.

this shutter issue has been rumbling on for a few years now and all they say is "its the rules" sorry but the rules need to change, and if the people in charge cant change them due to playing politics maybe they should leave there job and let people in who can actually do something other than blame others.
[quote][p][bold]her from here[/bold] wrote: It's about time the council sorted this out it's gone on long enough.Surely there should be some compromise so the shopkeepers can keep their propertys safe . What are the police doing about this it's gone on before the cut backs.where have they been when the vandalism has happened[/p][/quote]seriously no one at rbc can make a decision as if something comes back to bite them they are scared of getting fired. this shutter issue has been rumbling on for a few years now and all they say is "its the rules" sorry but the rules need to change, and if the people in charge cant change them due to playing politics maybe they should leave there job and let people in who can actually do something other than blame others. GAC

1:11pm Mon 3 Sep 12

RupertsReason says...

her from here wrote:
It's about time the council sorted this out it's gone on long enough.Surely there should be some compromise so the shopkeepers can keep their propertys safe .
What are the police doing about this it's gone on before the cut backs.where have they been when the vandalism has happened
I get the feeling the police might have been out doing their job of protecting the public from crime by patrolling, which can be as much a deterrent. Luckily enough they weren't so stupid as to sit outside Mr Iqbal's shop waiting for some numpty to not notice them in their highly visible cars and uniforms and vandalise the shop.
What sort of reactionary nonsense is that last sentence you wrote?
Have you not considered that Mr Iqbal is just using this article to deflect his own shortcomings by blaming everyone bar him?
[quote][p][bold]her from here[/bold] wrote: It's about time the council sorted this out it's gone on long enough.Surely there should be some compromise so the shopkeepers can keep their propertys safe . What are the police doing about this it's gone on before the cut backs.where have they been when the vandalism has happened[/p][/quote]I get the feeling the police might have been out doing their job of protecting the public from crime by patrolling, which can be as much a deterrent. Luckily enough they weren't so stupid as to sit outside Mr Iqbal's shop waiting for some numpty to not notice them in their highly visible cars and uniforms and vandalise the shop. What sort of reactionary nonsense is that last sentence you wrote? Have you not considered that Mr Iqbal is just using this article to deflect his own shortcomings by blaming everyone bar him? RupertsReason

1:31pm Mon 3 Sep 12

midas says...

Mr Iqbal said: “I took my fee to the council to apply for planning permission and was told bluntly that I would not be successful.
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So he then just went ahead and installed them, didn't take them down when he was asked to, went not guilty and lost his trial and now blames the council!!!!
Mr Iqbal said: “I took my fee to the council to apply for planning permission and was told bluntly that I would not be successful. . So he then just went ahead and installed them, didn't take them down when he was asked to, went not guilty and lost his trial and now blames the council!!!! midas

1:36pm Mon 3 Sep 12

her from here says...

GAC wrote:
her from here wrote:
It's about time the council sorted this out it's gone on long enough.Surely there should be some compromise so the shopkeepers can keep their propertys safe .
What are the police doing about this it's gone on before the cut backs.where have they been when the vandalism has happened
seriously no one at rbc can make a decision as if something comes back to bite them they are scared of getting fired.

this shutter issue has been rumbling on for a few years now and all they say is "its the rules" sorry but the rules need to change, and if the people in charge cant change them due to playing politics maybe they should leave there job and let people in who can actually do something other than blame others.
Spot on
[quote][p][bold]GAC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]her from here[/bold] wrote: It's about time the council sorted this out it's gone on long enough.Surely there should be some compromise so the shopkeepers can keep their propertys safe . What are the police doing about this it's gone on before the cut backs.where have they been when the vandalism has happened[/p][/quote]seriously no one at rbc can make a decision as if something comes back to bite them they are scared of getting fired. this shutter issue has been rumbling on for a few years now and all they say is "its the rules" sorry but the rules need to change, and if the people in charge cant change them due to playing politics maybe they should leave there job and let people in who can actually do something other than blame others.[/p][/quote]Spot on her from here

1:37pm Mon 3 Sep 12

kempy says...

Whats wrong with the shutters They are not ugly'maybe if there were a good nighbour hood watch maybe he would not have put them up I hope Mr Iqbal get a petition going.I would back him
Whats wrong with the shutters They are not ugly'maybe if there were a good nighbour hood watch maybe he would not have put them up I hope Mr Iqbal get a petition going.I would back him kempy

1:37pm Mon 3 Sep 12

kempy says...

Whats wrong with the shutters They are not ugly'maybe if there were a good nighbour hood watch maybe he would not have put them up I hope Mr Iqbal get a petition going.I would back him
Whats wrong with the shutters They are not ugly'maybe if there were a good nighbour hood watch maybe he would not have put them up I hope Mr Iqbal get a petition going.I would back him kempy

2:09pm Mon 3 Sep 12

berniep says...

Why does he think he is above the rules & regulation's.
He was told that those shutters would not get planning permission but went ahead anyway.
Then he has he got the cheek to blame anybody but himself? Other small businesses have followed the rules & so should he.
Asian shop keepers do make a habit of flouting planning reg.s & usually get away with it.
Why does he think he is above the rules & regulation's. He was told that those shutters would not get planning permission but went ahead anyway. Then he has he got the cheek to blame anybody but himself? Other small businesses have followed the rules & so should he. Asian shop keepers do make a habit of flouting planning reg.s & usually get away with it. berniep

2:37pm Mon 3 Sep 12

district01 says...

A good businessman would have found out before installing them!
A good businessman would have found out before installing them! district01

2:56pm Mon 3 Sep 12

midas says...

kempy wrote:
Whats wrong with the shutters They are not ugly'maybe if there were a good nighbour hood watch maybe he would not have put them up I hope Mr Iqbal get a petition going.I would back him
They don't comply with planning regulations!!! Certain types do and others don't - its not science!!!
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What petition do you expect him to get going? One that exempts his business from planning regulations?
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why didn't he get shutters that comply with the rules - are they more expensive?
[quote][p][bold]kempy[/bold] wrote: Whats wrong with the shutters They are not ugly'maybe if there were a good nighbour hood watch maybe he would not have put them up I hope Mr Iqbal get a petition going.I would back him[/p][/quote]They don't comply with planning regulations!!! Certain types do and others don't - its not science!!! . What petition do you expect him to get going? One that exempts his business from planning regulations? . why didn't he get shutters that comply with the rules - are they more expensive? midas

2:57pm Mon 3 Sep 12

RUinsane says...

midas wrote:
Mr Iqbal said: “I took my fee to the council to apply for planning permission and was told bluntly that I would not be successful.
.
So he then just went ahead and installed them, didn't take them down when he was asked to, went not guilty and lost his trial and now blames the council!!!!
*----0----( 0 )----0----*
.(Yer in the bottom 3)

I agree with Midas here, also can't remember the last time someone broke into a chicken shop??? A venky spy perhaps??? I think the roller shutter door company fleeced your arse and then the council spanked it for good measure.
[quote][p][bold]midas[/bold] wrote: Mr Iqbal said: “I took my fee to the council to apply for planning permission and was told bluntly that I would not be successful. . So he then just went ahead and installed them, didn't take them down when he was asked to, went not guilty and lost his trial and now blames the council!!!![/p][/quote]*----0----( 0 )----0----* .(Yer in the bottom 3) I agree with Midas here, also can't remember the last time someone broke into a chicken shop??? A venky spy perhaps??? I think the roller shutter door company fleeced your arse and then the council spanked it for good measure. RUinsane

3:28pm Mon 3 Sep 12

Roo_Win says...

Granted, there are rules and regulations in place and he shouldn't have gone ahead with his shutter installation. However, the rules are ridiculous. There should be no restriction on shutters, especially seeing as there are similar shutters around which seem to be permitted because they were there before Bacup became an urban conservation area.

If they only allow certain shutters for aesthetic reasons, then they should take a look around the rest of the town centre (and closer surrounding areas). It's not a nice looking place. Actually, it looks closer to awful.

Though not all the kids in Bacup are miscreants, there are many of them here indeed. There have been many incidents of break-ins and vandalism. Think back to what happened to the windows at Pizza King last year.

Preventing something is always better than curing something.

However, I do agree that he should have complied and maybe sought other, more diplomatic ways to install these particular shutters.
Granted, there are rules and regulations in place and he shouldn't have gone ahead with his shutter installation. However, the rules are ridiculous. There should be no restriction on shutters, especially seeing as there are similar shutters around which seem to be permitted because they were there before Bacup became an urban conservation area. If they only allow certain shutters for aesthetic reasons, then they should take a look around the rest of the town centre (and closer surrounding areas). It's not a nice looking place. Actually, it looks closer to awful. Though not all the kids in Bacup are miscreants, there are many of them here indeed. There have been many incidents of break-ins and vandalism. Think back to what happened to the windows at Pizza King last year. Preventing something is always better than curing something. However, I do agree that he should have complied and maybe sought other, more diplomatic ways to install these particular shutters. Roo_Win

3:35pm Mon 3 Sep 12

jack denials says...

Take them off as the council requests.....then you will get robbed based on your neighbourhood review....Once you get robbed you can claim for insurance and reimburse the cost of the shutters by really milking the claim.
Take them off as the council requests.....then you will get robbed based on your neighbourhood review....Once you get robbed you can claim for insurance and reimburse the cost of the shutters by really milking the claim. jack denials

3:44pm Mon 3 Sep 12

kempy says...

good idea jack denials
but then everyone suffers with rising insurance polcies.
Also I do agree that he should not have gone ahead with having them fitted but then he had the risk of been broken into again or have boarded up frames that would have looked worse.
An old saying Bacup born and bread big in body thick in thed
good idea jack denials but then everyone suffers with rising insurance polcies. Also I do agree that he should not have gone ahead with having them fitted but then he had the risk of been broken into again or have boarded up frames that would have looked worse. An old saying Bacup born and bread big in body thick in thed kempy

3:52pm Mon 3 Sep 12

ROVERSCAN says...

jack daniels wrote:
As a businessman le would be aware of policies and procedures around owning a running a shop. It really is his own fault for not getting advice first and then getting permission through the correct channels. It's not that shutters are banned; just the ones he had fitted without permission.

There are rules in place for a reason...
Yes your right there pal, to keep some bolshie bast**d in a job and theres plenty of them!!!!!!,
[quote][p][bold]jack daniels[/bold] wrote: As a businessman le would be aware of policies and procedures around owning a running a shop. It really is his own fault for not getting advice first and then getting permission through the correct channels. It's not that shutters are banned; just the ones he had fitted without permission. There are rules in place for a reason...[/p][/quote]Yes your right there pal, to keep some bolshie bast**d in a job and theres plenty of them!!!!!!, ROVERSCAN

4:16pm Mon 3 Sep 12

her from here says...

kempy wrote:
good idea jack denials
but then everyone suffers with rising insurance polcies.
Also I do agree that he should not have gone ahead with having them fitted but then he had the risk of been broken into again or have boarded up frames that would have looked worse.
An old saying Bacup born and bread big in body thick in thed
What has being Bacup bred got to do with a planning issue. I'm Rossendale born and bred and have never heard that before. it;s offensive and spelt wrong.bread is somthing you eat. Who is thick in the thed
[quote][p][bold]kempy[/bold] wrote: good idea jack denials but then everyone suffers with rising insurance polcies. Also I do agree that he should not have gone ahead with having them fitted but then he had the risk of been broken into again or have boarded up frames that would have looked worse. An old saying Bacup born and bread big in body thick in thed[/p][/quote]What has being Bacup bred got to do with a planning issue. I'm Rossendale born and bred and have never heard that before. it;s offensive and spelt wrong.bread is somthing you eat. Who is thick in the thed her from here

5:02pm Mon 3 Sep 12

rvp what a player says...

may be he should change his shop name to the old con club take away .they have shutters on that look sh*t but grt away with it.and they are in the center of town
may be he should change his shop name to the old con club take away .they have shutters on that look sh*t but grt away with it.and they are in the center of town rvp what a player

5:16pm Mon 3 Sep 12

HairyBowls says...

Bring down the shutters on all takeaways!
Bring down the shutters on all takeaways! HairyBowls

5:34pm Mon 3 Sep 12

kempy says...

her from here says...
4:16pm Mon 3 Sep 12

kempy wrote:
good idea jack denials
but then everyone suffers with rising insurance polcies.
Also I do agree that he should not have gone ahead with having them fitted but then he had the risk of been broken into again or have boarded up frames that would have looked worse.
An old saying Bacup born and bread big in body thick in thed

What has being Bacup bred got to do with a planning issue. I'm Rossendale born and bred and have never heard that before. it;s offensive and spelt wrong.bread is somthing you eat. Who is thick in the thed




Great we have a spell checker on hear!!
Strange you have never heard that ode before I know three people from Haslingdon say that all the time.
if the yobs who put his windows in and robbed him just goes to show the mentality? He is a rate payer and pays twice as much as a house holder.he just trying to look after his property which others want to wreck.
her from here says... 4:16pm Mon 3 Sep 12 kempy wrote: good idea jack denials but then everyone suffers with rising insurance polcies. Also I do agree that he should not have gone ahead with having them fitted but then he had the risk of been broken into again or have boarded up frames that would have looked worse. An old saying Bacup born and bread big in body thick in thed What has being Bacup bred got to do with a planning issue. I'm Rossendale born and bred and have never heard that before. it;s offensive and spelt wrong.bread is somthing you eat. Who is thick in the thed Great we have a spell checker on hear!! Strange you have never heard that ode before I know three people from Haslingdon say that all the time. if the yobs who put his windows in and robbed him just goes to show the mentality? He is a rate payer and pays twice as much as a house holder.he just trying to look after his property which others want to wreck. kempy

6:00pm Mon 3 Sep 12

Pan-cake says...

Let's be clear about these shop shutters. They blight our every high street. There is no standard applied to their design. All different colours and sizes. The shopkeepers installing these monstrosities generally provide little benefit to the society they operate in. Just how many takeaways does a small town need? It's a pity that these places are not required to provide a HMRC clean bill of health as part of the planning application for the shutters. That should reduce the problem!
And in Great Harwood the bulk of the shutters on shops are down during the day and up at nighttime, which is when you would expect any vandalism/criminalit
y to take place.
It occurs that if proper shops and even the bookies don't have shutters, then why does a take away need them.? Is there something more valuable on the premises than the expected kebabs and a few chicken beasts? And what's so valuable within, that the the local barber needs shutters?
These things are so beyond our planning system then soon all our town centres will take on the East Manchester look, where rows of shops are 'protected ' not only by shutters but razor wire.
Let's be clear about these shop shutters. They blight our every high street. There is no standard applied to their design. All different colours and sizes. The shopkeepers installing these monstrosities generally provide little benefit to the society they operate in. Just how many takeaways does a small town need? It's a pity that these places are not required to provide a HMRC clean bill of health as part of the planning application for the shutters. That should reduce the problem! And in Great Harwood the bulk of the shutters on shops are down during the day and up at nighttime, which is when you would expect any vandalism/criminalit y to take place. It occurs that if proper shops and even the bookies don't have shutters, then why does a take away need them.? Is there something more valuable on the premises than the expected kebabs and a few chicken beasts? And what's so valuable within, that the the local barber needs shutters? These things are so beyond our planning system then soon all our town centres will take on the East Manchester look, where rows of shops are 'protected ' not only by shutters but razor wire. Pan-cake

6:39pm Mon 3 Sep 12

her from here says...

kempy wrote:
her from here says...
4:16pm Mon 3 Sep 12

kempy wrote:
good idea jack denials
but then everyone suffers with rising insurance polcies.
Also I do agree that he should not have gone ahead with having them fitted but then he had the risk of been broken into again or have boarded up frames that would have looked worse.
An old saying Bacup born and bread big in body thick in thed

What has being Bacup bred got to do with a planning issue. I'm Rossendale born and bred and have never heard that before. it;s offensive and spelt wrong.bread is somthing you eat. Who is thick in the thed




Great we have a spell checker on hear!!
Strange you have never heard that ode before I know three people from Haslingdon say that all the time.
if the yobs who put his windows in and robbed him just goes to show the mentality? He is a rate payer and pays twice as much as a house holder.he just trying to look after his property which others want to wreck.
You know 3 people from Haslingden that say it all the time just about says it all. The people that do damage may not be local but could come from somewhere else maybe from Haslingden who knows.
[quote][p][bold]kempy[/bold] wrote: her from here says... 4:16pm Mon 3 Sep 12 kempy wrote: good idea jack denials but then everyone suffers with rising insurance polcies. Also I do agree that he should not have gone ahead with having them fitted but then he had the risk of been broken into again or have boarded up frames that would have looked worse. An old saying Bacup born and bread big in body thick in thed What has being Bacup bred got to do with a planning issue. I'm Rossendale born and bred and have never heard that before. it;s offensive and spelt wrong.bread is somthing you eat. Who is thick in the thed Great we have a spell checker on hear!! Strange you have never heard that ode before I know three people from Haslingdon say that all the time. if the yobs who put his windows in and robbed him just goes to show the mentality? He is a rate payer and pays twice as much as a house holder.he just trying to look after his property which others want to wreck.[/p][/quote]You know 3 people from Haslingden that say it all the time just about says it all. The people that do damage may not be local but could come from somewhere else maybe from Haslingden who knows. her from here

6:40pm Mon 3 Sep 12

Linzi.cooban says...

The council are just a joke, they want to keep shops open, they want to stop violence and criminal damages. shopkeepers want to protect there buisnesses so they try to do with these shutters then the council want them to take them down!!!??? mind boggles. we need these shutters, council round here stinks. leave the shop keepers alone and let them utilise the empty shops and TRY to make the town look and feel a little decent
The council are just a joke, they want to keep shops open, they want to stop violence and criminal damages. shopkeepers want to protect there buisnesses so they try to do with these shutters then the council want them to take them down!!!??? mind boggles. we need these shutters, council round here stinks. leave the shop keepers alone and let them utilise the empty shops and TRY to make the town look and feel a little decent Linzi.cooban

1:23am Tue 4 Sep 12

gazzandste says...

Rossendale council again losing trade because of their old fashioned ideas. Try and protect your property and you get a fine.Great idea, shut all the shops like the valley Centre, close your museum, great what have you got left, nothing, only a twisted council who will not do anything to help other people earn a living. Rossendale council I am glad i moved out of your area and moved to Burnley, a more relaxed, get on with life atmosphere unlike you lot. Good luck Mr Iqbal you will need it to survive in Rossendale.
Rossendale council again losing trade because of their old fashioned ideas. Try and protect your property and you get a fine.Great idea, shut all the shops like the valley Centre, close your museum, great what have you got left, nothing, only a twisted council who will not do anything to help other people earn a living. Rossendale council I am glad i moved out of your area and moved to Burnley, a more relaxed, get on with life atmosphere unlike you lot. Good luck Mr Iqbal you will need it to survive in Rossendale. gazzandste

8:22am Tue 4 Sep 12

MrClaret says...

Check with the council on the correct types of shutters and install them first time around, instead of getting the cheapest your mate could fit.

No sympathy, his own fault and the situation he's in is of his own making and could easily of been avoided
Check with the council on the correct types of shutters and install them first time around, instead of getting the cheapest your mate could fit. No sympathy, his own fault and the situation he's in is of his own making and could easily of been avoided MrClaret

9:46am Tue 4 Sep 12

SWP supporter says...

"Asian shop keepers do make a habit of flouting planning reg.s & usually get away with it."

Well, Berniep, why are you trying to turn this into a racist dispute?
"Asian shop keepers do make a habit of flouting planning reg.s & usually get away with it." Well, Berniep, why are you trying to turn this into a racist dispute? SWP supporter

9:56am Tue 4 Sep 12

buck fuzzby says...

kempy wrote:
her from here says...
4:16pm Mon 3 Sep 12

kempy wrote:
good idea jack denials
but then everyone suffers with rising insurance polcies.
Also I do agree that he should not have gone ahead with having them fitted but then he had the risk of been broken into again or have boarded up frames that would have looked worse.
An old saying Bacup born and bread big in body thick in thed

What has being Bacup bred got to do with a planning issue. I'm Rossendale born and bred and have never heard that before. it;s offensive and spelt wrong.bread is somthing you eat. Who is thick in the thed




Great we have a spell checker on hear!!
Strange you have never heard that ode before I know three people from Haslingdon say that all the time.
if the yobs who put his windows in and robbed him just goes to show the mentality? He is a rate payer and pays twice as much as a house holder.he just trying to look after his property which others want to wreck.
great, we have a spell checker on hear...
I think you mean HERE.
[quote][p][bold]kempy[/bold] wrote: her from here says... 4:16pm Mon 3 Sep 12 kempy wrote: good idea jack denials but then everyone suffers with rising insurance polcies. Also I do agree that he should not have gone ahead with having them fitted but then he had the risk of been broken into again or have boarded up frames that would have looked worse. An old saying Bacup born and bread big in body thick in thed What has being Bacup bred got to do with a planning issue. I'm Rossendale born and bred and have never heard that before. it;s offensive and spelt wrong.bread is somthing you eat. Who is thick in the thed Great we have a spell checker on hear!! Strange you have never heard that ode before I know three people from Haslingdon say that all the time. if the yobs who put his windows in and robbed him just goes to show the mentality? He is a rate payer and pays twice as much as a house holder.he just trying to look after his property which others want to wreck.[/p][/quote]great, we have a spell checker on hear... I think you mean HERE. buck fuzzby

10:07am Tue 4 Sep 12

buck fuzzby says...

I do wish people would write ENGLISH when putting their thoughts in print.eg.
an ode is a lyric poem which was originally meant to be sung....what you write about is not an ode, but a saying or adage.
I do wish people would write ENGLISH when putting their thoughts in print.eg. an ode is a lyric poem which was originally meant to be sung....what you write about is not an ode, but a saying or adage. buck fuzzby

12:07pm Tue 4 Sep 12

jack daniels says...

ROVERSCAN wrote:
jack daniels wrote: As a businessman le would be aware of policies and procedures around owning a running a shop. It really is his own fault for not getting advice first and then getting permission through the correct channels. It's not that shutters are banned; just the ones he had fitted without permission. There are rules in place for a reason...
Yes your right there pal, to keep some bolshie bast**d in a job and theres plenty of them!!!!!!,
or maybe the council are trying to stop the area looking like the multicoloured eye sore that is Darwen St in Blackburn.
[quote][p][bold]ROVERSCAN[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jack daniels[/bold] wrote: As a businessman le would be aware of policies and procedures around owning a running a shop. It really is his own fault for not getting advice first and then getting permission through the correct channels. It's not that shutters are banned; just the ones he had fitted without permission. There are rules in place for a reason...[/p][/quote]Yes your right there pal, to keep some bolshie bast**d in a job and theres plenty of them!!!!!!,[/p][/quote]or maybe the council are trying to stop the area looking like the multicoloured eye sore that is Darwen St in Blackburn. jack daniels

7:05pm Tue 4 Sep 12

Bacupbloke says...

There are shops in Union Street that don't have shutters.
The fact is though that the Bacup yobs take a dislike to certain shops. They hang around takeaways and have no respect. The main problem is not this businessman but the brain dead councillors (Labour of course), especially regeneration boss Andy McNae. Trying to revive Bacup is like raising Lazarus. If this was a smart town with a civilised population. I would back the ban but it is the armpit of east Lancs.
There are shops in Union Street that don't have shutters. The fact is though that the Bacup yobs take a dislike to certain shops. They hang around takeaways and have no respect. The main problem is not this businessman but the brain dead councillors (Labour of course), especially regeneration boss Andy McNae. Trying to revive Bacup is like raising Lazarus. If this was a smart town with a civilised population. I would back the ban but it is the armpit of east Lancs. Bacupbloke

12:12am Wed 5 Sep 12

oracle999 says...

Once again RBC showing incompetence in a matter. What should of happened years ago when they let bacup go down the swanny was to allow a standard type of shutter to be placed in the urban war zone sorry conservation zone I mean. Is it not about time some local business people got together and utilised the community "right to challenge" to oust the council from all its services? They would then disappear and the borough could be run by its people at a fraction of the price. Let's face it, they are an appalling council, how much did they pay for the new valley cider drinking area before they bulldozed it? On that alone it shows how thick they are with money, business people should run towns, not gravy train passengers who have never had a proper job.
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Once again RBC showing incompetence in a matter. What should of happened years ago when they let bacup go down the swanny was to allow a standard type of shutter to be placed in the urban war zone sorry conservation zone I mean. Is it not about time some local business people got together and utilised the community "right to challenge" to oust the council from all its services? They would then disappear and the borough could be run by its people at a fraction of the price. Let's face it, they are an appalling council, how much did they pay for the new valley cider drinking area before they bulldozed it? On that alone it shows how thick they are with money, business people should run towns, not gravy train passengers who have never had a proper job. 🚃 oracle999

4:54pm Wed 5 Sep 12

Bacupbloke says...

Oracle 999 is dead right. But the lumpen proletariat in Rossendale would vote for a bag of fertiliser if there was a Labour rosette on it. Sorry, they aleady do. Just because their granddads voted that way. So the town gets the moronic council that it deserves. Jimmy Eaton is the only decent and sensible town councillor. But good ones like Peter and Hazel Steen were dumped for Labour nonentities. The council is lied by bumblers like. Barnes, Serridge and McShea. At least we are rid of big headed Janet Anderson.
Oracle 999 is dead right. But the lumpen proletariat in Rossendale would vote for a bag of fertiliser if there was a Labour rosette on it. Sorry, they aleady do. Just because their granddads voted that way. So the town gets the moronic council that it deserves. Jimmy Eaton is the only decent and sensible town councillor. But good ones like Peter and Hazel Steen were dumped for Labour nonentities. The council is lied by bumblers like. Barnes, Serridge and McShea. At least we are rid of big headed Janet Anderson. Bacupbloke

4:56pm Wed 5 Sep 12

Bacupbloke says...

I meant McNae not McShea though there is not much difference, Labour are all the same.
I meant McNae not McShea though there is not much difference, Labour are all the same. Bacupbloke

12:47pm Fri 28 Sep 12

mysay.com says...

just to clarify a point or 2:-
he paid his fee to the council and was told he would not be successful.....this was after the fact, he had looked at the premises, looked at the shutters which were already installed on the other local businesses, and fitted shutters which matched, and was THEN told that those were not acceptable, (even though they were the same as the others) so he paid for "additional" permission and was told that the council had already seen a way to fleece him out of a fine and were not going to assess it, only take the money and run. and yet the other premisses which STILL have the same shutters are not being fined.

Council staff are afraid of losing their jobs....this NEVER happens, they just get moved to a different department, even after gross negligence or after it being proved that they were employed in error.

Claim on insurance.....yes, and watch your premiums soar untill they reach a point where you cannot get or cannot afford to insure the place.....is this not what has caused the demolition of the valley centre....it aint only bacup.


This matter is being looked at by the traders association and the council being brought to task...it is about time that the council realised...they work for US not the other way around, this is supposed to be a community, not a dictatorship.
just to clarify a point or 2:- he paid his fee to the council and was told he would not be successful.....this was after the fact, he had looked at the premises, looked at the shutters which were already installed on the other local businesses, and fitted shutters which matched, and was THEN told that those were not acceptable, (even though they were the same as the others) so he paid for "additional" permission and was told that the council had already seen a way to fleece him out of a fine and were not going to assess it, only take the money and run. and yet the other premisses which STILL have the same shutters are not being fined. Council staff are afraid of losing their jobs....this NEVER happens, they just get moved to a different department, even after gross negligence or after it being proved that they were employed in error. Claim on insurance.....yes, and watch your premiums soar untill they reach a point where you cannot get or cannot afford to insure the place.....is this not what has caused the demolition of the valley centre....it aint only bacup. This matter is being looked at by the traders association and the council being brought to task...it is about time that the council realised...they work for US not the other way around, this is supposed to be a community, not a dictatorship. mysay.com

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