Row as town hall chiefs refuse to put speed cameras on 'race track' road in Bradshaw

The Bolton News: Cllr Stuart Haslam with residents, from left, Roy Adams, Dinah Hill, Leesa and Martelle Claret, aged 11, Anita and Nigel Fitzpatrick Cllr Stuart Haslam with residents, from left, Roy Adams, Dinah Hill, Leesa and Martelle Claret, aged 11, Anita and Nigel Fitzpatrick

A ROW has erupted afer highways chiefs refused to install traffic calming measures on a road branded a “racing track”.

Residents of Bradshaw Road, along with Bradshaw councillor Stuart Haslam, say the road needs to be better controlled by speed cameras and more signs warning people to slow down.

The A road, which runs between Bolton and Bury, and alongside Bradshaw Wood and the Jumbles Reservoir, has 50mph, 40mph and 30mph zones, but there are no speed cameras or electronic speed signs.

Roy Adams, aged 68 who lives on the road, said: “Bradshaw Road is like a racing track — it’s frightening.

“I’ve got great grandchildren and if one of them were to walk on to the road, it would be curtains.

“When I tell people to slow down, all I get is a load of abuse.”

Dinah Hill, aged 69, who has lived on the road for 45 years, said: “Considering there are tight bends and parts of this road have only got one narrow pavement, the speed some of these vehicles are doing is ridiculous.

“I’m very concerned that something serious is going to happen.”

Bolton Council said the enforcement of speed limits was down to police and that there was no accident data to support introducing further speed restrictions on the road.

The area’s residents attended the Bradshaw area forum last month to raise their concerns, and Cllr Haslam said: “This road is a very real problem.

“Speed restrictions need enforcing.

“When I went down there, there were some really nasty cases of bad driving.

“The potential implic-ations of this bad driving could be horrific.

“We keep pressuring the police to do something but their view is that there is a health and safety issue with putting speed radar on the road.”

A council spokesman said: “There are no current proposals to amend the speed limit on Bradshaw Road and enforcement of the speed limit is the responsibility of the police.

“We would urge motor-ists to drive responsibly and stick to the speed limit.

“There is also no accident data that would support taking action on this route.”

and in terms of future speed restriction schemes we are limited, as the funds we have access to for highways schemes have been greatly reduced from the levels we had in previous years.”

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8:01am Thu 20 Feb 14

Regulatory Man says...

It's got nothing to do with statistical evidence - It's cost pure and simple. And the Police can't enforce because they are impacted by resource shortfall because of budget cuts.

Instead of the local councillor moaning about no action, he should get stuck into the Government paymasters who are the ones cutting budgets of councils to the point that they are having to leave out road maintenance, traffic calming measures and much more.
It's got nothing to do with statistical evidence - It's cost pure and simple. And the Police can't enforce because they are impacted by resource shortfall because of budget cuts. Instead of the local councillor moaning about no action, he should get stuck into the Government paymasters who are the ones cutting budgets of councils to the point that they are having to leave out road maintenance, traffic calming measures and much more. Regulatory Man
  • Score: 12

9:03am Thu 20 Feb 14

stereo_world says...

Why can't they erect a speed camera shell if it's going to cost so much otherwise? Might as well. It'll at least stop some people.
Why can't they erect a speed camera shell if it's going to cost so much otherwise? Might as well. It'll at least stop some people. stereo_world
  • Score: 5

9:13am Thu 20 Feb 14

MarkAllRead says...

"I’ve got great grandchildren and if one of them were to walk on to the road, it would be curtains"

Perhaps stop them from walking on the road?
"I’ve got great grandchildren and if one of them were to walk on to the road, it would be curtains" Perhaps stop them from walking on the road? MarkAllRead
  • Score: 20

9:53am Thu 20 Feb 14

albertmodley says...

Photo shows cars parked half on pavement.No yellow lines.Why not park your vehicles on the road,fully, even opposite each other, that would slow em down a bit.Appreciate you cant be there all the time but now and again?
Photo shows cars parked half on pavement.No yellow lines.Why not park your vehicles on the road,fully, even opposite each other, that would slow em down a bit.Appreciate you cant be there all the time but now and again? albertmodley
  • Score: -3

9:59am Thu 20 Feb 14

Jim271 says...

Saw the CCTV Smart Car on Halliwell Road this morning filming at the cash point again,

It had attempted to hide by parking outside the Post Office on double yellow lines itself rather than its usual visible place, myself would have taken a picture but I have a proper job to go to that does not involve penalising people just trying to make a living.

And then the council have the nerve to tell us cameras are for road safety not to generate income.
Saw the CCTV Smart Car on Halliwell Road this morning filming at the cash point again, It had attempted to hide by parking outside the Post Office on double yellow lines itself rather than its usual visible place, myself would have taken a picture but I have a proper job to go to that does not involve penalising people just trying to make a living. And then the council have the nerve to tell us cameras are for road safety not to generate income. Jim271
  • Score: 12

10:32am Thu 20 Feb 14

Comment777 says...

MarkAllRead wrote:
"I’ve got great grandchildren and if one of them were to walk on to the road, it would be curtains"

Perhaps stop them from walking on the road?
Absolutely. cars and people do not mix when it comes to a damage contest...
[quote][p][bold]MarkAllRead[/bold] wrote: "I’ve got great grandchildren and if one of them were to walk on to the road, it would be curtains" Perhaps stop them from walking on the road?[/p][/quote]Absolutely. cars and people do not mix when it comes to a damage contest... Comment777
  • Score: 10

10:38am Thu 20 Feb 14

Comment777 says...

re these the same residents who park their cars on the blind bends and narrower, curved parts of Bradshaw Road...ummm

The dip in the road on the bend before the Indian Restaurant has been removed recently, that used to be a challenge at speed, waiting for the car to settle before making a left hand steering input to negotiate the bend...
re these the same residents who park their cars on the blind bends and narrower, curved parts of Bradshaw Road...ummm The dip in the road on the bend before the Indian Restaurant has been removed recently, that used to be a challenge at speed, waiting for the car to settle before making a left hand steering input to negotiate the bend... Comment777
  • Score: 10

10:39am Thu 20 Feb 14

I, Ludicrous says...

I use that road at every day and the last thing that anyone could possibly compare it with is a 'racetrack'. Looks like a bunch of yokels with little else to complain about, to me.
I use that road at every day and the last thing that anyone could possibly compare it with is a 'racetrack'. Looks like a bunch of yokels with little else to complain about, to me. I, Ludicrous
  • Score: 17

10:52am Thu 20 Feb 14

Old Boltonian says...

Odd there always seems to be money for traffic calming and other improvements for BL1. Wonder why?
Odd there always seems to be money for traffic calming and other improvements for BL1. Wonder why? Old Boltonian
  • Score: -1

11:39am Thu 20 Feb 14

Brumas says...

We all prevaricate via this medium about what should or should not be done, when the real solution is in the hands of Government and car manufacturers, but no one will grasp the nettle and ensure that future car speed can be governed from the roadside. The technology is in place to do this, but some people will think it is Health and Safety gone mad or a nanny state interfering, but it would be idiot proof. All cars of the future (As soon as possible) should have governors’ fitted to their engines that are controlled via radio from either the roadside speed signs or via satellite, so that when a vehicle passes a speed sign of whatever speed the speed is regulated. It will come and the sooner the better.
We all prevaricate via this medium about what should or should not be done, when the real solution is in the hands of Government and car manufacturers, but no one will grasp the nettle and ensure that future car speed can be governed from the roadside. The technology is in place to do this, but some people will think it is Health and Safety gone mad or a nanny state interfering, but it would be idiot proof. All cars of the future (As soon as possible) should have governors’ fitted to their engines that are controlled via radio from either the roadside speed signs or via satellite, so that when a vehicle passes a speed sign of whatever speed the speed is regulated. It will come and the sooner the better. Brumas
  • Score: -7

12:13pm Thu 20 Feb 14

MarkAllRead says...

Brumas wrote:
We all prevaricate via this medium about what should or should not be done, when the real solution is in the hands of Government and car manufacturers, but no one will grasp the nettle and ensure that future car speed can be governed from the roadside. The technology is in place to do this, but some people will think it is Health and Safety gone mad or a nanny state interfering, but it would be idiot proof. All cars of the future (As soon as possible) should have governors’ fitted to their engines that are controlled via radio from either the roadside speed signs or via satellite, so that when a vehicle passes a speed sign of whatever speed the speed is regulated. It will come and the sooner the better.
It's an idiotic idea. Speed restrictors cannot adjust for the conditions and do not understand when 30mph in a 30mph zone is way too fast. However, when fitted with limiters, people tend to just put their foot down and allow the car's computer to select the right speed. So you end up with no-one doing illegal speeds, but plenty more people doing inappropriate and dangerous speeds.
[quote][p][bold]Brumas[/bold] wrote: We all prevaricate via this medium about what should or should not be done, when the real solution is in the hands of Government and car manufacturers, but no one will grasp the nettle and ensure that future car speed can be governed from the roadside. The technology is in place to do this, but some people will think it is Health and Safety gone mad or a nanny state interfering, but it would be idiot proof. All cars of the future (As soon as possible) should have governors’ fitted to their engines that are controlled via radio from either the roadside speed signs or via satellite, so that when a vehicle passes a speed sign of whatever speed the speed is regulated. It will come and the sooner the better.[/p][/quote]It's an idiotic idea. Speed restrictors cannot adjust for the conditions and do not understand when 30mph in a 30mph zone is way too fast. However, when fitted with limiters, people tend to just put their foot down and allow the car's computer to select the right speed. So you end up with no-one doing illegal speeds, but plenty more people doing inappropriate and dangerous speeds. MarkAllRead
  • Score: 7

12:21pm Thu 20 Feb 14

Brumas says...

Well Mark that just illustrates the point if you are not an idiot you drive appropriate, end of.
Well Mark that just illustrates the point if you are not an idiot you drive appropriate, end of. Brumas
  • Score: -8

1:06pm Thu 20 Feb 14

cliff4treasurer says...

I consider cars drive up and down my street to fast, can I have a speed camera please?
I consider cars drive up and down my street to fast, can I have a speed camera please? cliff4treasurer
  • Score: 4

10:57pm Thu 20 Feb 14

wassupp says...

Brumas wrote:
We all prevaricate via this medium about what should or should not be done, when the real solution is in the hands of Government and car manufacturers, but no one will grasp the nettle and ensure that future car speed can be governed from the roadside. The technology is in place to do this, but some people will think it is Health and Safety gone mad or a nanny state interfering, but it would be idiot proof. All cars of the future (As soon as possible) should have governors’ fitted to their engines that are controlled via radio from either the roadside speed signs or via satellite, so that when a vehicle passes a speed sign of whatever speed the speed is regulated. It will come and the sooner the better.
We all prevaricate?

Prevaricate means " to tell lies".

What are you on about?
[quote][p][bold]Brumas[/bold] wrote: We all prevaricate via this medium about what should or should not be done, when the real solution is in the hands of Government and car manufacturers, but no one will grasp the nettle and ensure that future car speed can be governed from the roadside. The technology is in place to do this, but some people will think it is Health and Safety gone mad or a nanny state interfering, but it would be idiot proof. All cars of the future (As soon as possible) should have governors’ fitted to their engines that are controlled via radio from either the roadside speed signs or via satellite, so that when a vehicle passes a speed sign of whatever speed the speed is regulated. It will come and the sooner the better.[/p][/quote]We all prevaricate? Prevaricate means " to tell lies". What are you on about? wassupp
  • Score: 1

11:52pm Thu 20 Feb 14

Count de Monet says...

wassupp wrote:
Brumas wrote:
We all prevaricate via this medium about what should or should not be done, when the real solution is in the hands of Government and car manufacturers, but no one will grasp the nettle and ensure that future car speed can be governed from the roadside. The technology is in place to do this, but some people will think it is Health and Safety gone mad or a nanny state interfering, but it would be idiot proof. All cars of the future (As soon as possible) should have governors’ fitted to their engines that are controlled via radio from either the roadside speed signs or via satellite, so that when a vehicle passes a speed sign of whatever speed the speed is regulated. It will come and the sooner the better.
We all prevaricate?

Prevaricate means " to tell lies".

What are you on about?
PREVARICATE (verb) To speak or act in an evasive way.
[quote][p][bold]wassupp[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Brumas[/bold] wrote: We all prevaricate via this medium about what should or should not be done, when the real solution is in the hands of Government and car manufacturers, but no one will grasp the nettle and ensure that future car speed can be governed from the roadside. The technology is in place to do this, but some people will think it is Health and Safety gone mad or a nanny state interfering, but it would be idiot proof. All cars of the future (As soon as possible) should have governors’ fitted to their engines that are controlled via radio from either the roadside speed signs or via satellite, so that when a vehicle passes a speed sign of whatever speed the speed is regulated. It will come and the sooner the better.[/p][/quote]We all prevaricate? Prevaricate means " to tell lies". What are you on about?[/p][/quote]PREVARICATE (verb) To speak or act in an evasive way. Count de Monet
  • Score: 2

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