Comments (31)

Please log in to enable comment sorting

6:50pm Fri 24 Jan 14

nickyboy70 says...

good luck Bolton play 442 we can turn these over 2-1 two Bolton donna and nick blackpool
good luck Bolton play 442 we can turn these over 2-1 two Bolton donna and nick blackpool nickyboy70
  • Score: 1

1:18pm Sat 25 Jan 14

J J J J says...

Is David N'gog move to Swansea all in place for him to go at some point next week?
Is David N'gog move to Swansea all in place for him to go at some point next week? J J J J
  • Score: 0

1:19pm Sat 25 Jan 14

CeBe from Sweden says...

Dispite the result last week at Reading I´m hoping for a repeat from the last time Cardiff visited Reebook. It was a great game and I don´t mind if BWFC again can win by 2-1. COYWM!
Dispite the result last week at Reading I´m hoping for a repeat from the last time Cardiff visited Reebook. It was a great game and I don´t mind if BWFC again can win by 2-1. COYWM! CeBe from Sweden
  • Score: 1

1:28pm Sat 25 Jan 14

J J J J says...

Is the deal for N'gog permanent or a Loan papers are saying loan. will it be loan with a permanent deal at the end?
Is the deal for N'gog permanent or a Loan papers are saying loan. will it be loan with a permanent deal at the end? J J J J
  • Score: 0

1:32pm Sat 25 Jan 14

CeBe from Sweden says...

BWFC vs Cardiff at a Swedish TV channel today. I´m looking forward to the game. Good Luck to the team!
BWFC vs Cardiff at a Swedish TV channel today. I´m looking forward to the game. Good Luck to the team! CeBe from Sweden
  • Score: 0

1:33pm Sat 25 Jan 14

Apon22 says...

@@@@ HDQ OFFICIAL TV LINK @@@@
Copy And Paste TV LINK = http://goo.gl/5hsb3P

.
.
.
.
.
Copy And Paste TV LINK = http://goo.gl/5hsb3P

.
.
.
.
.
Copy And Paste TV LINK = http://goo.gl/5hsb3P
@@@@ HDQ OFFICIAL TV LINK @@@@ Copy And Paste TV LINK = http://goo.gl/5hsb3P . . . . . Copy And Paste TV LINK = http://goo.gl/5hsb3P . . . . . Copy And Paste TV LINK = http://goo.gl/5hsb3P Apon22
  • Score: 0

1:35pm Sat 25 Jan 14

J J J J says...

How much of his wage are they willing to pay? percentage if the amount isn't known? What's the latest on dawson? read he wanted a return to the club on loan?
How much of his wage are they willing to pay? percentage if the amount isn't known? What's the latest on dawson? read he wanted a return to the club on loan? J J J J
  • Score: 0

1:39pm Sat 25 Jan 14

Beyond News Forum says...

Apon22 wrote:
@@@@ HDQ OFFICIAL TV LINK @@@@
Copy And Paste TV LINK = http://goo.gl/5hsb3P


.
.
.
.
.
Copy And Paste TV LINK = http://goo.gl/5hsb3P


.
.
.
.
.
Copy And Paste TV LINK = http://goo.gl/5hsb3P
Assho!e - go to the game and support the club - people like you are breaking club finances - you c0ck!

COYWM
[quote][p][bold]Apon22[/bold] wrote: @@@@ HDQ OFFICIAL TV LINK @@@@ Copy And Paste TV LINK = http://goo.gl/5hsb3P . . . . . Copy And Paste TV LINK = http://goo.gl/5hsb3P . . . . . Copy And Paste TV LINK = http://goo.gl/5hsb3P[/p][/quote]Assho!e - go to the game and support the club - people like you are breaking club finances - you c0ck! COYWM Beyond News Forum
  • Score: 2

1:52pm Sat 25 Jan 14

tokyodave says...

Marc,
BN story about Craig Dawson says we may have to wait until the loan window reopens...when is that?
Marc, BN story about Craig Dawson says we may have to wait until the loan window reopens...when is that? tokyodave
  • Score: 0

1:55pm Sat 25 Jan 14

steveG says...

Had to laugh at the comment regarding breaking club finances.

I don't think the powers that be at BWFC need any help in that regard.
Had to laugh at the comment regarding breaking club finances. I don't think the powers that be at BWFC need any help in that regard. steveG
  • Score: 0

1:57pm Sat 25 Jan 14

Beyond News Forum says...

J J J J wrote:
How much of his wage are they willing to pay? percentage if the amount isn't known? What's the latest on dawson? read he wanted a return to the club on loan?
We should really be cashing in on a permanent deal - BWFC will lose millions on his tenure. But still if it leaves finances for a player like Dawson who desperately WANTS to play at BWFC then the loss is probably worth it.

Dawson - Defender who plays like an old fashioned center forward, reminds me of a young SKD - we need players like him not Yannick Bastos who can't play yet, never proven at any high level and not exactly a prolific goal scorer.

I think this ideology of bringing the age of the squad down is desperately flawed also - Look what Big Sam did with a bunch of Ex-Real Madrid, French Internationals, Greek Internationals etc at the end of there careers. With the Sports Science program got them playing at almost peak conditions with averages of 25-28 years old playing age for players over 30. The late Gary Speed (RIP) a shining example.

I cannot say exactly how much I know about the back room work, only that I was part of the BWFC family quite closely at the beginning of this century and witnessed a lot - If DF is listening I would implore him to listen to me like he has seemingly done in the past. Do a Big Sam and get experienced players who want to play and be a big name at the club. They do not cost a fortune and are willing to work with the club on the clubs budget simply because they will not get the football over there in Italy, Spain or France.

Take a look at some of the older stock that can benefit from the Sports Science program - We need an Ivan Campo, we need a Stellios, we need a JJ, we need a Youri Djorkaeff, we need experience that can play at this level with a hunger for the game and the club. This youth plan is for when we are successful, not today ;) Listen to me DF - I am not wrong. You can be a success at BWFC, but you need to look at the history of our wonderful club, maybe change your plan temporary until we have moved forward.
[quote][p][bold]J J J J[/bold] wrote: How much of his wage are they willing to pay? percentage if the amount isn't known? What's the latest on dawson? read he wanted a return to the club on loan?[/p][/quote]We should really be cashing in on a permanent deal - BWFC will lose millions on his tenure. But still if it leaves finances for a player like Dawson who desperately WANTS to play at BWFC then the loss is probably worth it. Dawson - Defender who plays like an old fashioned center forward, reminds me of a young SKD - we need players like him not Yannick Bastos who can't play yet, never proven at any high level and not exactly a prolific goal scorer. I think this ideology of bringing the age of the squad down is desperately flawed also - Look what Big Sam did with a bunch of Ex-Real Madrid, French Internationals, Greek Internationals etc at the end of there careers. With the Sports Science program got them playing at almost peak conditions with averages of 25-28 years old playing age for players over 30. The late Gary Speed (RIP) a shining example. I cannot say exactly how much I know about the back room work, only that I was part of the BWFC family quite closely at the beginning of this century and witnessed a lot - If DF is listening I would implore him to listen to me like he has seemingly done in the past. Do a Big Sam and get experienced players who want to play and be a big name at the club. They do not cost a fortune and are willing to work with the club on the clubs budget simply because they will not get the football over there in Italy, Spain or France. Take a look at some of the older stock that can benefit from the Sports Science program - We need an Ivan Campo, we need a Stellios, we need a JJ, we need a Youri Djorkaeff, we need experience that can play at this level with a hunger for the game and the club. This youth plan is for when we are successful, not today ;) Listen to me DF - I am not wrong. You can be a success at BWFC, but you need to look at the history of our wonderful club, maybe change your plan temporary until we have moved forward. Beyond News Forum
  • Score: 2

2:16pm Sat 25 Jan 14

Liamdog says...

BEN please take note of the comment from JJJ . These are the type of questions and comments that should be put to the manager and bourd not pointless sycophantic how do you think that went Dougie comments.
Everything the club has gained in the past years is being thrown away and our local paper will once again sit on the fence watch it happen and wait to reinstate the lifeline numbers.
BEN please take note of the comment from JJJ . These are the type of questions and comments that should be put to the manager and bourd not pointless sycophantic how do you think that went Dougie comments. Everything the club has gained in the past years is being thrown away and our local paper will once again sit on the fence watch it happen and wait to reinstate the lifeline numbers. Liamdog
  • Score: 1

2:18pm Sat 25 Jan 14

Liamdog says...

Apologies, excellent comment was from Beyond News Forum.
Apologies, excellent comment was from Beyond News Forum. Liamdog
  • Score: 0

2:30pm Sat 25 Jan 14

J J J J says...

Interesting Line-up. No N'gog at all preventing him from injury for his move to Swansea?
Interesting Line-up. No N'gog at all preventing him from injury for his move to Swansea? J J J J
  • Score: 0

2:34pm Sat 25 Jan 14

Sasa C says...

Beyond News Forum wrote:
J J J J wrote:
How much of his wage are they willing to pay? percentage if the amount isn't known? What's the latest on dawson? read he wanted a return to the club on loan?
We should really be cashing in on a permanent deal - BWFC will lose millions on his tenure. But still if it leaves finances for a player like Dawson who desperately WANTS to play at BWFC then the loss is probably worth it.

Dawson - Defender who plays like an old fashioned center forward, reminds me of a young SKD - we need players like him not Yannick Bastos who can't play yet, never proven at any high level and not exactly a prolific goal scorer.

I think this ideology of bringing the age of the squad down is desperately flawed also - Look what Big Sam did with a bunch of Ex-Real Madrid, French Internationals, Greek Internationals etc at the end of there careers. With the Sports Science program got them playing at almost peak conditions with averages of 25-28 years old playing age for players over 30. The late Gary Speed (RIP) a shining example.

I cannot say exactly how much I know about the back room work, only that I was part of the BWFC family quite closely at the beginning of this century and witnessed a lot - If DF is listening I would implore him to listen to me like he has seemingly done in the past. Do a Big Sam and get experienced players who want to play and be a big name at the club. They do not cost a fortune and are willing to work with the club on the clubs budget simply because they will not get the football over there in Italy, Spain or France.

Take a look at some of the older stock that can benefit from the Sports Science program - We need an Ivan Campo, we need a Stellios, we need a JJ, we need a Youri Djorkaeff, we need experience that can play at this level with a hunger for the game and the club. This youth plan is for when we are successful, not today ;) Listen to me DF - I am not wrong. You can be a success at BWFC, but you need to look at the history of our wonderful club, maybe change your plan temporary until we have moved forward.
Totally agree with everything you say, but there's just one small problem, we were in the Premier League when we built that team, what players of that calibre would come to a run down club at the bottom of the Championship and play for a stubborn manager like DF? Also how can we afford these level of wages while we are £160 Mill in debt and income is decreasing. Unfortunately we will have to go with youth and keep our fingers crossed, the big thing for me is a change of management, being in Jimmy Philips and David Lee it someone with the club at hear that will get some passion into the team, because even a blind man can see that the current set aren't good enough and more worryingly do not play for this manager
[quote][p][bold]Beyond News Forum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J J J J[/bold] wrote: How much of his wage are they willing to pay? percentage if the amount isn't known? What's the latest on dawson? read he wanted a return to the club on loan?[/p][/quote]We should really be cashing in on a permanent deal - BWFC will lose millions on his tenure. But still if it leaves finances for a player like Dawson who desperately WANTS to play at BWFC then the loss is probably worth it. Dawson - Defender who plays like an old fashioned center forward, reminds me of a young SKD - we need players like him not Yannick Bastos who can't play yet, never proven at any high level and not exactly a prolific goal scorer. I think this ideology of bringing the age of the squad down is desperately flawed also - Look what Big Sam did with a bunch of Ex-Real Madrid, French Internationals, Greek Internationals etc at the end of there careers. With the Sports Science program got them playing at almost peak conditions with averages of 25-28 years old playing age for players over 30. The late Gary Speed (RIP) a shining example. I cannot say exactly how much I know about the back room work, only that I was part of the BWFC family quite closely at the beginning of this century and witnessed a lot - If DF is listening I would implore him to listen to me like he has seemingly done in the past. Do a Big Sam and get experienced players who want to play and be a big name at the club. They do not cost a fortune and are willing to work with the club on the clubs budget simply because they will not get the football over there in Italy, Spain or France. Take a look at some of the older stock that can benefit from the Sports Science program - We need an Ivan Campo, we need a Stellios, we need a JJ, we need a Youri Djorkaeff, we need experience that can play at this level with a hunger for the game and the club. This youth plan is for when we are successful, not today ;) Listen to me DF - I am not wrong. You can be a success at BWFC, but you need to look at the history of our wonderful club, maybe change your plan temporary until we have moved forward.[/p][/quote]Totally agree with everything you say, but there's just one small problem, we were in the Premier League when we built that team, what players of that calibre would come to a run down club at the bottom of the Championship and play for a stubborn manager like DF? Also how can we afford these level of wages while we are £160 Mill in debt and income is decreasing. Unfortunately we will have to go with youth and keep our fingers crossed, the big thing for me is a change of management, being in Jimmy Philips and David Lee it someone with the club at hear that will get some passion into the team, because even a blind man can see that the current set aren't good enough and more worryingly do not play for this manager Sasa C
  • Score: 1

2:39pm Sat 25 Jan 14

J J J J says...

Personally I think the team is missing a spine. Every team should have a spine and we don't, we are missing 3 good commanding players in each position. A Craig Dawson would temporarily fill the Defence roll but spearing (who I thought did well last season but now he isn't on loan seems broken) is not the same player as last season and has lost a bit of his mojo. We have got Beckford who took a while to get going but is now doing alright. But we NEED a striker who is going to jump on the chances we create and put them in the net. The way Reading ran riot last week was embarrassing. Zat knight wasn't marking Le Fondre once he got away from knight way to easily.
Personally I think the team is missing a spine. Every team should have a spine and we don't, we are missing 3 good commanding players in each position. A Craig Dawson would temporarily fill the Defence roll but spearing (who I thought did well last season but now he isn't on loan seems broken) is not the same player as last season and has lost a bit of his mojo. We have got Beckford who took a while to get going but is now doing alright. But we NEED a striker who is going to jump on the chances we create and put them in the net. The way Reading ran riot last week was embarrassing. Zat knight wasn't marking Le Fondre once he got away from knight way to easily. J J J J
  • Score: 0

3:39pm Sat 25 Jan 14

CeBe from Sweden says...

So far so good for BWFC; first 37 min shows a good effort. Well done and go on!
So far so good for BWFC; first 37 min shows a good effort. Well done and go on! CeBe from Sweden
  • Score: 0

3:55pm Sat 25 Jan 14

CeBe from Sweden says...

A good first half from BWFC; they have to go more forward hough.
A good first half from BWFC; they have to go more forward hough. CeBe from Sweden
  • Score: 0

4:29pm Sat 25 Jan 14

CeBe from Sweden says...

I wonder why D´F doesn´t make any changes? The time is running out!
I wonder why D´F doesn´t make any changes? The time is running out! CeBe from Sweden
  • Score: 0

4:54pm Sat 25 Jan 14

CeBe from Sweden says...

What a shame to lose on Lonergans error! A real cheap goal. Bolton really did a good game.
What a shame to lose on Lonergans error! A real cheap goal. Bolton really did a good game. CeBe from Sweden
  • Score: 0

4:56pm Sat 25 Jan 14

trottersfan says...

Same old story. So many missed chances. I ask again, do they practise shooting under the bar and between the posts?

BBC statistics say 13 shots at goal, but only 1 on target!!!

I see in an earlier post that Ivan Campo was mentioned. He offered his help to Bolton a few weeks ago Perhaps we need to accept his offer. We certainly need some new ideas, but while we have a Championship manager we will get championship players and championship football. (hopefully)

Anyway, to be out of the cup is probably best for Bolton so the championship people can concentrate on staying in the championship.
Same old story. So many missed chances. I ask again, do they practise shooting under the bar and between the posts? BBC statistics say 13 shots at goal, but only 1 on target!!! I see in an earlier post that Ivan Campo was mentioned. He offered his help to Bolton a few weeks ago Perhaps we need to accept his offer. We certainly need some new ideas, but while we have a Championship manager we will get championship players and championship football. (hopefully) Anyway, to be out of the cup is probably best for Bolton so the championship people can concentrate on staying in the championship. trottersfan
  • Score: 0

5:21pm Sat 25 Jan 14

J J J J says...

Wasn't Moritz's day today.
Wasn't Moritz's day today. J J J J
  • Score: 0

5:46pm Sat 25 Jan 14

CeBe from Sweden says...

It´s hard to see when or where the turning point will come for this Bolton squad
It´s hard to see when or where the turning point will come for this Bolton squad CeBe from Sweden
  • Score: 0

8:08pm Sat 25 Jan 14

steveG says...

Dougies questioned the players quality,yet ignores the fact he brought in many of the players,certainly the poorer quality ones who include those he previously played with or managed. He seems very unclear as to his best team, the system to employ or how to get the best out of individuals.
Whilst a change of Manager isn't always the best course of action, I don't believe Dougie has shown any ability in football management which would persuade an ambitious club that he's irreplaceable.
Dougies questioned the players quality,yet ignores the fact he brought in many of the players,certainly the poorer quality ones who include those he previously played with or managed. He seems very unclear as to his best team, the system to employ or how to get the best out of individuals. Whilst a change of Manager isn't always the best course of action, I don't believe Dougie has shown any ability in football management which would persuade an ambitious club that he's irreplaceable. steveG
  • Score: 3

9:16pm Sat 25 Jan 14

Beyond News Forum says...

Sasa C wrote:
Beyond News Forum wrote:
J J J J wrote:
How much of his wage are they willing to pay? percentage if the amount isn't known? What's the latest on dawson? read he wanted a return to the club on loan?
We should really be cashing in on a permanent deal - BWFC will lose millions on his tenure. But still if it leaves finances for a player like Dawson who desperately WANTS to play at BWFC then the loss is probably worth it.

Dawson - Defender who plays like an old fashioned center forward, reminds me of a young SKD - we need players like him not Yannick Bastos who can't play yet, never proven at any high level and not exactly a prolific goal scorer.

I think this ideology of bringing the age of the squad down is desperately flawed also - Look what Big Sam did with a bunch of Ex-Real Madrid, French Internationals, Greek Internationals etc at the end of there careers. With the Sports Science program got them playing at almost peak conditions with averages of 25-28 years old playing age for players over 30. The late Gary Speed (RIP) a shining example.

I cannot say exactly how much I know about the back room work, only that I was part of the BWFC family quite closely at the beginning of this century and witnessed a lot - If DF is listening I would implore him to listen to me like he has seemingly done in the past. Do a Big Sam and get experienced players who want to play and be a big name at the club. They do not cost a fortune and are willing to work with the club on the clubs budget simply because they will not get the football over there in Italy, Spain or France.

Take a look at some of the older stock that can benefit from the Sports Science program - We need an Ivan Campo, we need a Stellios, we need a JJ, we need a Youri Djorkaeff, we need experience that can play at this level with a hunger for the game and the club. This youth plan is for when we are successful, not today ;) Listen to me DF - I am not wrong. You can be a success at BWFC, but you need to look at the history of our wonderful club, maybe change your plan temporary until we have moved forward.
Totally agree with everything you say, but there's just one small problem, we were in the Premier League when we built that team, what players of that calibre would come to a run down club at the bottom of the Championship and play for a stubborn manager like DF? Also how can we afford these level of wages while we are £160 Mill in debt and income is decreasing. Unfortunately we will have to go with youth and keep our fingers crossed, the big thing for me is a change of management, being in Jimmy Philips and David Lee it someone with the club at hear that will get some passion into the team, because even a blind man can see that the current set aren't good enough and more worryingly do not play for this manager
We were not in the PL sorry, we where in the Championship. I was there all the way 1999-2004. :) Sam built the foundations in the Championship, promotion, relegation, promotion. We didn't look back until Megson/Coyle.
[quote][p][bold]Sasa C[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Beyond News Forum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J J J J[/bold] wrote: How much of his wage are they willing to pay? percentage if the amount isn't known? What's the latest on dawson? read he wanted a return to the club on loan?[/p][/quote]We should really be cashing in on a permanent deal - BWFC will lose millions on his tenure. But still if it leaves finances for a player like Dawson who desperately WANTS to play at BWFC then the loss is probably worth it. Dawson - Defender who plays like an old fashioned center forward, reminds me of a young SKD - we need players like him not Yannick Bastos who can't play yet, never proven at any high level and not exactly a prolific goal scorer. I think this ideology of bringing the age of the squad down is desperately flawed also - Look what Big Sam did with a bunch of Ex-Real Madrid, French Internationals, Greek Internationals etc at the end of there careers. With the Sports Science program got them playing at almost peak conditions with averages of 25-28 years old playing age for players over 30. The late Gary Speed (RIP) a shining example. I cannot say exactly how much I know about the back room work, only that I was part of the BWFC family quite closely at the beginning of this century and witnessed a lot - If DF is listening I would implore him to listen to me like he has seemingly done in the past. Do a Big Sam and get experienced players who want to play and be a big name at the club. They do not cost a fortune and are willing to work with the club on the clubs budget simply because they will not get the football over there in Italy, Spain or France. Take a look at some of the older stock that can benefit from the Sports Science program - We need an Ivan Campo, we need a Stellios, we need a JJ, we need a Youri Djorkaeff, we need experience that can play at this level with a hunger for the game and the club. This youth plan is for when we are successful, not today ;) Listen to me DF - I am not wrong. You can be a success at BWFC, but you need to look at the history of our wonderful club, maybe change your plan temporary until we have moved forward.[/p][/quote]Totally agree with everything you say, but there's just one small problem, we were in the Premier League when we built that team, what players of that calibre would come to a run down club at the bottom of the Championship and play for a stubborn manager like DF? Also how can we afford these level of wages while we are £160 Mill in debt and income is decreasing. Unfortunately we will have to go with youth and keep our fingers crossed, the big thing for me is a change of management, being in Jimmy Philips and David Lee it someone with the club at hear that will get some passion into the team, because even a blind man can see that the current set aren't good enough and more worryingly do not play for this manager[/p][/quote]We were not in the PL sorry, we where in the Championship. I was there all the way 1999-2004. :) Sam built the foundations in the Championship, promotion, relegation, promotion. We didn't look back until Megson/Coyle. Beyond News Forum
  • Score: 0

9:27pm Sat 25 Jan 14

Beyond News Forum says...

" MANAGER Dougie Freedman was happy with the way his Bolton Wanderers team acquitted themselves against top-flight opposition Cardiff City, despite exiting the FA Cup at the fourth-round stage for the second successive season today.

Just one goal from half-time substitute Fraizer Campbell decided the Reebok tie in favour of the Premier League side – and it was a strike that owed as much to an uncharacteristic slip from Whites stopper Andy Lonergan as to the Bluebirds’ forward play. "

Not happy as a fan, and not exactly a Premier League side, they are still Championship fodder until they prove themselves as PL quality over 2 or more seasons.

I saw a slight improvement but the team were still extremely weak. DF if you are in for the long run I refer and concur with my previous post.
" MANAGER Dougie Freedman was happy with the way his Bolton Wanderers team acquitted themselves against top-flight opposition Cardiff City, despite exiting the FA Cup at the fourth-round stage for the second successive season today. Just one goal from half-time substitute Fraizer Campbell decided the Reebok tie in favour of the Premier League side – and it was a strike that owed as much to an uncharacteristic slip from Whites stopper Andy Lonergan as to the Bluebirds’ forward play. " Not happy as a fan, and not exactly a Premier League side, they are still Championship fodder until they prove themselves as PL quality over 2 or more seasons. I saw a slight improvement but the team were still extremely weak. DF if you are in for the long run I refer and concur with my previous post. Beyond News Forum
  • Score: 0

1:02am Sun 26 Jan 14

Sasa C says...

Beyond News Forum wrote:
Sasa C wrote:
Beyond News Forum wrote:
J J J J wrote:
How much of his wage are they willing to pay? percentage if the amount isn't known? What's the latest on dawson? read he wanted a return to the club on loan?
We should really be cashing in on a permanent deal - BWFC will lose millions on his tenure. But still if it leaves finances for a player like Dawson who desperately WANTS to play at BWFC then the loss is probably worth it.

Dawson - Defender who plays like an old fashioned center forward, reminds me of a young SKD - we need players like him not Yannick Bastos who can't play yet, never proven at any high level and not exactly a prolific goal scorer.

I think this ideology of bringing the age of the squad down is desperately flawed also - Look what Big Sam did with a bunch of Ex-Real Madrid, French Internationals, Greek Internationals etc at the end of there careers. With the Sports Science program got them playing at almost peak conditions with averages of 25-28 years old playing age for players over 30. The late Gary Speed (RIP) a shining example.

I cannot say exactly how much I know about the back room work, only that I was part of the BWFC family quite closely at the beginning of this century and witnessed a lot - If DF is listening I would implore him to listen to me like he has seemingly done in the past. Do a Big Sam and get experienced players who want to play and be a big name at the club. They do not cost a fortune and are willing to work with the club on the clubs budget simply because they will not get the football over there in Italy, Spain or France.

Take a look at some of the older stock that can benefit from the Sports Science program - We need an Ivan Campo, we need a Stellios, we need a JJ, we need a Youri Djorkaeff, we need experience that can play at this level with a hunger for the game and the club. This youth plan is for when we are successful, not today ;) Listen to me DF - I am not wrong. You can be a success at BWFC, but you need to look at the history of our wonderful club, maybe change your plan temporary until we have moved forward.
Totally agree with everything you say, but there's just one small problem, we were in the Premier League when we built that team, what players of that calibre would come to a run down club at the bottom of the Championship and play for a stubborn manager like DF? Also how can we afford these level of wages while we are £160 Mill in debt and income is decreasing. Unfortunately we will have to go with youth and keep our fingers crossed, the big thing for me is a change of management, being in Jimmy Philips and David Lee it someone with the club at hear that will get some passion into the team, because even a blind man can see that the current set aren't good enough and more worryingly do not play for this manager
We were not in the PL sorry, we where in the Championship. I was there all the way 1999-2004. :) Sam built the foundations in the Championship, promotion, relegation, promotion. We didn't look back until Megson/Coyle.
You're correct he did start to build when we were in the championship but not with the players you mentioned. A lot of the players that got us promoted he inherited from Colin Todd's tenure such as Gardener, Jussi, Eidur etc but he brought in players like Rickets from Walsall too and made them into better players. Also we never got relegated under Sam and I was there for " all the way" too like I have been for the last 40 years. During which I've witnessed great times like promotion in the seventies and dark times of relegation to the fourth division at Aldershot. Bruce Rioch started the revolution and Sam took it beyond our wildest dreams with the success and players he brought when we were in the PL but this is now a distant memory and until DF and Gartside are gone I can only see it getting worse. A new revolution is required!
[quote][p][bold]Beyond News Forum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sasa C[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Beyond News Forum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J J J J[/bold] wrote: How much of his wage are they willing to pay? percentage if the amount isn't known? What's the latest on dawson? read he wanted a return to the club on loan?[/p][/quote]We should really be cashing in on a permanent deal - BWFC will lose millions on his tenure. But still if it leaves finances for a player like Dawson who desperately WANTS to play at BWFC then the loss is probably worth it. Dawson - Defender who plays like an old fashioned center forward, reminds me of a young SKD - we need players like him not Yannick Bastos who can't play yet, never proven at any high level and not exactly a prolific goal scorer. I think this ideology of bringing the age of the squad down is desperately flawed also - Look what Big Sam did with a bunch of Ex-Real Madrid, French Internationals, Greek Internationals etc at the end of there careers. With the Sports Science program got them playing at almost peak conditions with averages of 25-28 years old playing age for players over 30. The late Gary Speed (RIP) a shining example. I cannot say exactly how much I know about the back room work, only that I was part of the BWFC family quite closely at the beginning of this century and witnessed a lot - If DF is listening I would implore him to listen to me like he has seemingly done in the past. Do a Big Sam and get experienced players who want to play and be a big name at the club. They do not cost a fortune and are willing to work with the club on the clubs budget simply because they will not get the football over there in Italy, Spain or France. Take a look at some of the older stock that can benefit from the Sports Science program - We need an Ivan Campo, we need a Stellios, we need a JJ, we need a Youri Djorkaeff, we need experience that can play at this level with a hunger for the game and the club. This youth plan is for when we are successful, not today ;) Listen to me DF - I am not wrong. You can be a success at BWFC, but you need to look at the history of our wonderful club, maybe change your plan temporary until we have moved forward.[/p][/quote]Totally agree with everything you say, but there's just one small problem, we were in the Premier League when we built that team, what players of that calibre would come to a run down club at the bottom of the Championship and play for a stubborn manager like DF? Also how can we afford these level of wages while we are £160 Mill in debt and income is decreasing. Unfortunately we will have to go with youth and keep our fingers crossed, the big thing for me is a change of management, being in Jimmy Philips and David Lee it someone with the club at hear that will get some passion into the team, because even a blind man can see that the current set aren't good enough and more worryingly do not play for this manager[/p][/quote]We were not in the PL sorry, we where in the Championship. I was there all the way 1999-2004. :) Sam built the foundations in the Championship, promotion, relegation, promotion. We didn't look back until Megson/Coyle.[/p][/quote]You're correct he did start to build when we were in the championship but not with the players you mentioned. A lot of the players that got us promoted he inherited from Colin Todd's tenure such as Gardener, Jussi, Eidur etc but he brought in players like Rickets from Walsall too and made them into better players. Also we never got relegated under Sam and I was there for " all the way" too like I have been for the last 40 years. During which I've witnessed great times like promotion in the seventies and dark times of relegation to the fourth division at Aldershot. Bruce Rioch started the revolution and Sam took it beyond our wildest dreams with the success and players he brought when we were in the PL but this is now a distant memory and until DF and Gartside are gone I can only see it getting worse. A new revolution is required! Sasa C
  • Score: 3

10:07am Sun 26 Jan 14

stevethewanderer says...

Mr Davies as a fan of Bolton wanderers surely it must pain you to see what
Is happening to our beloved club , we really are in the mire.
So as the owner of Bwfc don't you think it's time to have a good clearout before its to late starting with gartside a co ? And get someone on board with the best interests of bwfc .
Mr Davies as a fan of Bolton wanderers surely it must pain you to see what Is happening to our beloved club , we really are in the mire. So as the owner of Bwfc don't you think it's time to have a good clearout before its to late starting with gartside a co ? And get someone on board with the best interests of bwfc . stevethewanderer
  • Score: 0

11:52am Sun 26 Jan 14

Beyond News Forum says...

Sasa C wrote:
Beyond News Forum wrote:
Sasa C wrote:
Beyond News Forum wrote:
J J J J wrote:
How much of his wage are they willing to pay? percentage if the amount isn't known? What's the latest on dawson? read he wanted a return to the club on loan?
We should really be cashing in on a permanent deal - BWFC will lose millions on his tenure. But still if it leaves finances for a player like Dawson who desperately WANTS to play at BWFC then the loss is probably worth it.

Dawson - Defender who plays like an old fashioned center forward, reminds me of a young SKD - we need players like him not Yannick Bastos who can't play yet, never proven at any high level and not exactly a prolific goal scorer.

I think this ideology of bringing the age of the squad down is desperately flawed also - Look what Big Sam did with a bunch of Ex-Real Madrid, French Internationals, Greek Internationals etc at the end of there careers. With the Sports Science program got them playing at almost peak conditions with averages of 25-28 years old playing age for players over 30. The late Gary Speed (RIP) a shining example.

I cannot say exactly how much I know about the back room work, only that I was part of the BWFC family quite closely at the beginning of this century and witnessed a lot - If DF is listening I would implore him to listen to me like he has seemingly done in the past. Do a Big Sam and get experienced players who want to play and be a big name at the club. They do not cost a fortune and are willing to work with the club on the clubs budget simply because they will not get the football over there in Italy, Spain or France.

Take a look at some of the older stock that can benefit from the Sports Science program - We need an Ivan Campo, we need a Stellios, we need a JJ, we need a Youri Djorkaeff, we need experience that can play at this level with a hunger for the game and the club. This youth plan is for when we are successful, not today ;) Listen to me DF - I am not wrong. You can be a success at BWFC, but you need to look at the history of our wonderful club, maybe change your plan temporary until we have moved forward.
Totally agree with everything you say, but there's just one small problem, we were in the Premier League when we built that team, what players of that calibre would come to a run down club at the bottom of the Championship and play for a stubborn manager like DF? Also how can we afford these level of wages while we are £160 Mill in debt and income is decreasing. Unfortunately we will have to go with youth and keep our fingers crossed, the big thing for me is a change of management, being in Jimmy Philips and David Lee it someone with the club at hear that will get some passion into the team, because even a blind man can see that the current set aren't good enough and more worryingly do not play for this manager
We were not in the PL sorry, we where in the Championship. I was there all the way 1999-2004. :) Sam built the foundations in the Championship, promotion, relegation, promotion. We didn't look back until Megson/Coyle.
You're correct he did start to build when we were in the championship but not with the players you mentioned. A lot of the players that got us promoted he inherited from Colin Todd's tenure such as Gardener, Jussi, Eidur etc but he brought in players like Rickets from Walsall too and made them into better players. Also we never got relegated under Sam and I was there for " all the way" too like I have been for the last 40 years. During which I've witnessed great times like promotion in the seventies and dark times of relegation to the fourth division at Aldershot. Bruce Rioch started the revolution and Sam took it beyond our wildest dreams with the success and players he brought when we were in the PL but this is now a distant memory and until DF and Gartside are gone I can only see it getting worse. A new revolution is required!
Sam Allardyce 19 October 1999 - 29 April 2007

Yes sorry it was CT in charge when we were relegated, the famous season with the PB bust up in the tunnel with AT.

But I do think you will find that most of the recruitment was done in the championship- either way I feel this is what needs to be done - experience, sports science - head tennis in the back room and a few SIS bars, along with a drawer full of chewing gum and a framed photograph of the Notts County's division winning season on the managers room wall - need I say any more ;P
[quote][p][bold]Sasa C[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Beyond News Forum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sasa C[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Beyond News Forum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J J J J[/bold] wrote: How much of his wage are they willing to pay? percentage if the amount isn't known? What's the latest on dawson? read he wanted a return to the club on loan?[/p][/quote]We should really be cashing in on a permanent deal - BWFC will lose millions on his tenure. But still if it leaves finances for a player like Dawson who desperately WANTS to play at BWFC then the loss is probably worth it. Dawson - Defender who plays like an old fashioned center forward, reminds me of a young SKD - we need players like him not Yannick Bastos who can't play yet, never proven at any high level and not exactly a prolific goal scorer. I think this ideology of bringing the age of the squad down is desperately flawed also - Look what Big Sam did with a bunch of Ex-Real Madrid, French Internationals, Greek Internationals etc at the end of there careers. With the Sports Science program got them playing at almost peak conditions with averages of 25-28 years old playing age for players over 30. The late Gary Speed (RIP) a shining example. I cannot say exactly how much I know about the back room work, only that I was part of the BWFC family quite closely at the beginning of this century and witnessed a lot - If DF is listening I would implore him to listen to me like he has seemingly done in the past. Do a Big Sam and get experienced players who want to play and be a big name at the club. They do not cost a fortune and are willing to work with the club on the clubs budget simply because they will not get the football over there in Italy, Spain or France. Take a look at some of the older stock that can benefit from the Sports Science program - We need an Ivan Campo, we need a Stellios, we need a JJ, we need a Youri Djorkaeff, we need experience that can play at this level with a hunger for the game and the club. This youth plan is for when we are successful, not today ;) Listen to me DF - I am not wrong. You can be a success at BWFC, but you need to look at the history of our wonderful club, maybe change your plan temporary until we have moved forward.[/p][/quote]Totally agree with everything you say, but there's just one small problem, we were in the Premier League when we built that team, what players of that calibre would come to a run down club at the bottom of the Championship and play for a stubborn manager like DF? Also how can we afford these level of wages while we are £160 Mill in debt and income is decreasing. Unfortunately we will have to go with youth and keep our fingers crossed, the big thing for me is a change of management, being in Jimmy Philips and David Lee it someone with the club at hear that will get some passion into the team, because even a blind man can see that the current set aren't good enough and more worryingly do not play for this manager[/p][/quote]We were not in the PL sorry, we where in the Championship. I was there all the way 1999-2004. :) Sam built the foundations in the Championship, promotion, relegation, promotion. We didn't look back until Megson/Coyle.[/p][/quote]You're correct he did start to build when we were in the championship but not with the players you mentioned. A lot of the players that got us promoted he inherited from Colin Todd's tenure such as Gardener, Jussi, Eidur etc but he brought in players like Rickets from Walsall too and made them into better players. Also we never got relegated under Sam and I was there for " all the way" too like I have been for the last 40 years. During which I've witnessed great times like promotion in the seventies and dark times of relegation to the fourth division at Aldershot. Bruce Rioch started the revolution and Sam took it beyond our wildest dreams with the success and players he brought when we were in the PL but this is now a distant memory and until DF and Gartside are gone I can only see it getting worse. A new revolution is required![/p][/quote]Sam Allardyce 19 October 1999 - 29 April 2007 Yes sorry it was CT in charge when we were relegated, the famous season with the PB bust up in the tunnel with AT. But I do think you will find that most of the recruitment was done in the championship- either way I feel this is what needs to be done - experience, sports science - head tennis in the back room and a few SIS bars, along with a drawer full of chewing gum and a framed photograph of the Notts County's division winning season on the managers room wall - need I say any more ;P Beyond News Forum
  • Score: 0

11:54am Sun 26 Jan 14

Beyond News Forum says...

Liamdog wrote:
Apologies, excellent comment was from Beyond News Forum.
;) cheers Liam
[quote][p][bold]Liamdog[/bold] wrote: Apologies, excellent comment was from Beyond News Forum.[/p][/quote];) cheers Liam Beyond News Forum
  • Score: 0

6:52pm Sun 26 Jan 14

Reebok Al says...

I hope Lonergan's mistake won't be used as an excuse to bring Bogdan back.
I hope Lonergan's mistake won't be used as an excuse to bring Bogdan back. Reebok Al
  • Score: 0

Comments are closed on this article.

Send us your news, pictures and videos

Most read stories

Local Info

Enter your postcode, town or place name

About cookies

We want you to enjoy your visit to our website. That's why we use cookies to enhance your experience. By staying on our website you agree to our use of cookies. Find out more about the cookies we use.

I agree