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  • Wanderers close in on Middlesbrough striker Lukas Jutkiewicz
  • DF: Swansea "nearly there" with deal to sign French striker David Ngog
  • If you have a question for our online blogger, Marc Iles, tweet @MarcIles or use the comment facility.

8:55pm

8:51pm

Lee-Barrett makes another stunning save with his feet from Robinsoin. Nearly back from the dead there.

8:49pm

Couple of minutes left. Thriller here.

8:49pm

Villa could nick something here. Brilliant curling strike from Robinson.

8:48pm

GOAL 3-2 - Robinson

8:46pm

Aaron Knight stabs a shot wide from close range. Lost count of the chances tonight. Been a really, really open game.

8:43pm

Bolton completely spent at the moment. Burke blasts another one just wide - massive spaces emerging in midfield.

8:40pm

Green misses an absolute sitter for Villa. Could have been game on for the final 10 minutes there.

8:39pm

Must be the umpteenth shot from distance Villa have had - and the first one that has arrowed into the bottom corner. Had to be a good one to beat Lee-Barrett tonight.

8:39pm

3-1 GOAL for Villa. Burke.

8:32pm

Burke tries his luck from distance fro Villa - Lee-Barrett spills at first and concedes the corner.

8:26pm

Nice work from Wilkinson to play one of his strike partners in. Took it really well, dinking the ball over the advancing keeper.

8:25pm

3-0 to Wanderers. Clough's second.

8:15pm

Johnson clips a great cross in - skims off the top of O'Brien's head and wide. 

8:13pm

O'Brien shoots from distance. Good hold from Lee-Barrett.

8:09pm

At the other end, Watkins makes a full-length save from Wilkinson.

8:07pm

ANother double save from Lee-Barrett, Robinson denied twice.

7:47pm

Been a very open half - could be 5-4. A lot of Villa's efforts have been from distance, no real examination of Popescu.

7:42pm

Double save from Lee-Barrett as he pushes away Steiber's shot and then got up to block Robinson's effort at the far post.

7:39pm

Keeper Watkins blocks a decent effort by Wilkinson. Got lucky with the deflection that drifted just wide of the post.

7:35pm

WIlkinson raids down the left, pulled it back where Kellett produced an excellent dummy to allow Youngs to crash the balll home.

7:34pm

2-0 Wanderers - Clough

7:31pm

Wanderers queueing up to score - Kellett and Youngs with blocked chances.

7:29pm

Villa struggling to hold the right line in defence but starting to grow in confidence going forward. Good block by Holding there to deny Steiber.

7:26pm

Popescu hasn't seen much action so far but he's a big fella - has contributed to clearing a few set pieces.

7:23pm

Youngs should have scored after a lovely bit of football with Kellett. Wanderers looking very sharp on the break.

7:19pm

Good save from Lee-Barrett to push away a low effort by Steiber.

7:19pm

1-0 Wanderers. Cian Bolger gets a free header and crashes it home.

7:18pm

Toner cautioned for a foul on Iliev

7:15pm

Wilkinson shaves the bar with a decent effort. Young Whites growing into the game now.

7:14pm

Rob Holding's header causes a few problems for the Villa keeper. Clough nearly stole in after his hesitence.

7:12pm

Not a great deal to write home about so far - Iliev has looked lively down the right, as has Lester, but no real chances for Wanderers so far.

7:06pm

Chris Lester playing right back tonight - just got forward well and had a shot spilled by the Villa keeper.

7:06pm

Been a very bright start from Villa - O'Brien with two early chances.

7:02pm

We're off here at Leyland. JUst been told there are numerous errors on the Villa team sheet (numbers).

6:55pm

The Romanian 20-year-old has recently left French club Ajaccio.

6:55pm

A new face in the Wanderers squad tonight with Stefan Popescu playing in defence.

6:54pm

Back on duty now for the development squad game - Wanderers v Aston Villa.

6:54pm

Good evening all. Hope you enjoyed/enjoying your tea.

4:44pm

OK - going to go on brief hiatus for a couple of hours and then reconvene at the development squad game. Tune in for text commentary.

4:15pm

Add to that - in my opinion. 

4:15pm

4:13pm Mon 27 Jan 14

beechd says

Looks like another mediocre player from the DF school of bad buys, he pipes on about loans are no good and give the youth a chance yet does exactly the opposite, season was wrote off weeks ago so he may as we'll cull the dead wood and try some of the youth team,Lester, Vela, Eaves etc. try and get some interest in Chungy as well as he's just not cut out for this league, bye bye to Eagles and Mears, Knight, Medo, Mills, etc

 

Have to say, the DF school of bad buys isn't a very big class. And why is Medo going anywhere?

4:14pm

 
Long standing enquiry. As soon as West Brom decide they want to send him out (and bear in mind this might be after deadline day) we'll be at the front of the queue. Most importantly, I hear he wants to come here.

4:13pm

4:06pm

Also from this afternoon's press conference, Freedman has admired Jutkiewicz since his Everton days

4:05pm

So the news confirmed here that David Ngog's last contribution to Wanderers was running into the back of the net to fetch the ball at 7-1 down to Reading.

3:57pm

3:55pm

Should the Jutkiewicz move go through, it is thought that Middlesbrough will go for Wolves striker Kevin Doyle.

 

3:13pm

Also hearing that the Lutkiewicz deal is "95 per cent" done.  Race to get him sorted in time for tomorrow's game at QPR now.

3:13pm

Hardly relevant to Wanderers whether the Ngog deal is loan or permanent because of his contract situation. Bottom line is, his salary is off the books.

3:01pm

2:56pm

Looks like the Ngog deal is all but done - if you missed it at the weekend there was a nice little piece with Sam Ricketts on the enigmatic Frenchman here 

2:42pm

 
The club hope so. Just waiting on word from Dave Pye to see if it has been confirmed in the written press conference.

2:42pm

2:39pm

Know for sure that defenders are on the shopping list... I've written enough stories about them in the last couple of weeks.

2:38pm

2:38pm

2:37pm

2:36pm

One of the selected quotes put out by the club from the press conference seems to have caused a stir.

 

I feel we're a couple of goalscorers away from being a top side.

Dougie Freedman

2:32pm

The Bolton News: Lee Bullock keeps a close eye on Hull opponent Matty Fryatt

One of the readers mentioned Matty Fryatt a few moments ago - looks like Sheffield Wednesday have just had an offer turned down for him.

2:31pm

2:31pm

 
Agree, that is a shame. At the moment the money isn't there to buy players outright, though.

2:30pm

 
Not privvy to the grand plan - but I'd guarantee he's got alternate targets. There are a couple of names I'd make educated guesses at but not really the time right now.

2:29pm

I'd like to think so, but have my doubts. From what I could understand last week the Graham deal would be an expensive one.

2:28pm

2:27pm

So to sum up those little nuggets of info from the press conference - Ngog seemingly very close to joining Swansea and Jutkiewicz due in soon as a replacement.

Freedman reckons the first 25 minutes will be key tomorrow at Loftus Road and that his side are "a couple of goalscorers" away from being a top side.

Agree? Let me know.

2:22pm

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2:16pm

2:16pm

These tweets live from the press conference, by the way.

2:15pm

2:15pm

2:14pm

Hmm, just experimented with a ballot but think I ended up putting something up about CCTV cameras. Note to self, know your online limits...

1:56pm

 
He looks like he's third-fourth choice at Hull and getting a game. Not sure Steve Bruce wants him going out on loan. But agree - he's a good player.

1:55pm

 
Lennie does what most assistant managers do - out there on the training pitch and in the offices. He hasn't done a press conference, but then Freedman has always been happy to front everything up. Don't see any problem there.

1:53pm

 
They are both there until the end of the season. After that, the clubs will have a chance to convert it into a permanent deal. I'd assume at the moment that Brighton are more likely to do that than Charlton.

1:39pm

 
He was mentioned in the national tabloids (at the same time as Jordan Rhodes, I believe). I've always rated him.

1:38pm

I just worry how Jack Dearden is going to manage on BBC Manchester.

1:38pm

 
Have taught myself this morning.
 
JUT - KIE - WIC - Z
 
But I'll probably just Ctrl+C it before every game...

1:36pm

 
Yes - odd that they should come during the last few days of a transfer window with his contract ticking down...

1:36pm

 
He's spoken to Swansea and everything seems to be moving in the right direction. Just very, very slowly.

1:35pm

1:31pm Mon 27 Jan 14

Jance says

Josh Vela, Odelusi, Riley, Tom Eaves. All are definitely good enough. Too many players breezing through games (Chungy, Eagles mainly), no effort. Massive clearout in the summer and we can maybe look to move forward!

1:35pm

 
Effectively, I think it does. But not my area of expertise.

1:27pm

The Middlesbrough Gazette confirm that Lukas Jutkiewicz is on his way out of the Riverside with Aitor Karanka looking to recruit his own "number nine and number 10".

1:25pm

The Bolton News: Leeds' Rodolph Austin and Leicester's Lloyd Dyer batlle for possession

Another snippet of news in the papers today (although it's not online that I can find) - The Mirror claim that Wanderers have enquired about Lloyd Dyer.

I have my doubts - but definitely a good player.

1:20pm

And I say "nothing in the pipeline"... at least nothing I know about. Definitely not claiming to be some kind of cyber-oracle.

1:19pm

 
Nothing in the pipeline - but I honestly don't think the club are in a position to turn down serious offers.
It would be typical that we've waited all this time for a player to sign elsewhere and then a few come along at once...

1:17pm

Burnden Aces also pointed out that we'll be renewing accquaintance with Andy D'Urso at QPR tomorrow night, here..

1:15pm

Elsewhere, Sky Sports have also cottoned on to the talks but don't mention it being a loan, which I think it is.

1:14pm

A quick look around the web this afternoon, and the lukwearm reception (no pun intended) to Jutkiewicz continues at Vital Football here.

While he hasn't had a great time at Boro since the £1.3million move from Coventry, he's always shown up quite well against Wanderers when I have seen him. Happy to reserve judgement.

1:09pm

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1:01pm

1:01pm

 
Seems to be a very grey area at the moment.
According to the rules, clubs who lose £8m+ are at risk of transfer embargo/fines.
As things stand, Wanderers need to shed some wages to stand a chance of falling in line with FFP and avoiding such problems BUT, and this is a big BUT, people within the game are still unsure whether the maximum punishments will be applied right away.
In short - do you want to chance it?? 

12:59pm

 
Very, very carefully. Understand the desire to see young players in the team but i's hard to say any of them are hammering on the first team door. Wilkinson maybe?

12:57pm

The youth issue is definitely one that needs to be discussed because there will have to be a cut-off point where DF needs to try and bring them into the first team - just a question of how safe the club need to be in the table, perhaps?

12:55pm

12:54pm

12:54pm

 
Dyer isn't a target. Sounds like his agent has been busy.
As for defenders - they are being sought. DF says Premier League teams will hold on to them until the last minute, if not into the loan window.

12:52pm

Certainly the Baptiste - Knight - Mills - Ream back four looks in need of a rest.

12:48pm

Could he be brought back in a left-back capacity?

12:48pm

Cardiff look to be making plenty of signings in the transfer window, one of which is Manchester Unted full-back Fabio - who could fill the left-back slot McNaughton had occupied the last couple of games.

12:47pm

The Bolton News: Kevin McNaughton

 

Here's another fella on the shortlist. And one who is desperately needed in my view...

12:45pm

Getting the Ngog wage off the bill will create some room in the budget.

Exactly this much, in fact...

12:43pm

12:43pm

12:40pm Mon 27 Jan 14

Reebok Rhythm says

Beyond News Forum wrote:
BTW Good afternoon Marc. :)
Totally agree with you pal, I'm disillusioned with it all. All we can do is reminisce of some of the greatest times we ever had! How I dearly miss the likes of Djorkaeff, Giannakopoulos, Campo, Okocha, Hierro, Speed, Jääskeläinen, N'Gotty.

The team now doesn't resemble anything of the 'never beaten' Wanderers' attitude we used to have, it's just an empty shell. The infrastructure is superb but the regime is abysmal and the impetus we once had has wilted. I have kept faith in Dougie Freedman but he is rapidly becoming a poor man's Coyle.

COYWM!

12:39pm

12:37pm Mon 27 Jan 14

BrendanJabbers says

I think Dougie should get Businessman of the Year if he offloads Ngog to Swansea. If Ngog's earning as much as he's reputed to be (we can get FOUR loanees in on his wages??) then his goal return has been pitiful in his time at the Reebok.

12:38pm

Quite a few people asking about the youngsters - and short answer is, I don't know when the right time is.

I know a handful of them are due to go out on loan for experience (as many as five or six according to DF's last press conference).

And I know the manager has told me in the past that only "one or two" look capable of stepping up to senior level.

12:36pm

12:36pm

Defenders are definitely a priority. Unfortunately, DF says the ones he wants are curently at Premier League clubs. Dawson, McNaughton??

12:34pm

I also think the Jutkiewicz deal - if and when that happens - makes Graham less likely. 

12:33pm

As for Danny Graham/Lukas Jutkiewicz - that's more of an indication of the club's financial position right now. Haven't got the cash up front for permanent signings.

12:30pm

I think Yannick Bastos has been brought in as a player to be schooled in the development squad. He's been playing amateur football over there BUT I know a couple of people who have watched him play, and say there is definitely something there.

12:28pm

That glass half-empty then?

12:28pm

12:19pm Mon 27 Jan 14

Beyond News Forum says

Why oh why is DF looking to loan strikers that have scored 2 goals in 24 games?

Why is DF bringing part time postmen to the Reebok?

Why is DF trying bring Sunderland's rejects to BWFC?

Not good enough - this all sound like BWFC are looking at playing in League One next season. No passion, no fixes, steps backward and disgraceful.

I will not be paying money to watch bit part players from Luxembourg, more non-goal scoring strikers and a less than exciting wing coupled with a bum squeaking defence. If the club keep going like this despite the FFP there will be one less fan at any game home or away - I'm done with it all! I have been committed to the point I really cannot watch the demise of BWFC anymore - it is heartbreaking.

12:28pm

Good afternoon.

12:28pm

12:21pm Mon 27 Jan 14

Beyond News Forum says

BTW Good afternoon Marc. :)

12:24pm

We brought you the story this morning that the former Everton man looks like he's on his way to Wanderers on loan.

 

12:21pm

The Bolton News: SMILE PLEASE: Lukas Jutkiewicz

First thing's first - this chap. Middlesbrough striker Lukas Jutkiewicz.

12:18pm

One place I won't be is at the press conference this afternoon - that'll be the task for our roving reporter David Pye. But keep your eyes peeled on our blog - we'll bring you up to date with what is being said.

12:16pm

And of course, we'll be closing the week with transfer deadline day itself. Always a busy one, even when nothing happens...

12:15pm

I'll be live at the Development Squad game against Aston Villa tonight and also at Loftus Road on Tuesday as Dougie Freedman's side get back to Championship business against QPR.

12:14pm

So allow me to introduce myself - I am Marc Iles and I'll be your guide to the next five days.

12:14pm

We'll also be bringing you up to date with all the gossip from other news sources - newspapers, websites and Twitter - and hopefully having a bit of banter along the way.

12:12pm

We're trying something a little different this week - bringing you all the Wanderers stories we regularly do but also giving readers a chance in interact in what we hope (stress hope) will be a busy week for the club.

12:11pm

Good afternoon - four days, 10 hours and 48 minutes until the close of the transfer window. And counting.

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12:19pm Mon 27 Jan 14

Beyond News Forum says...

Why oh why is DF looking to loan strikers that have scored 2 goals in 24 games?

Why is DF bringing part time postmen to the Reebok?

Why is DF trying bring Sunderland's rejects to BWFC?

Not good enough - this all sound like BWFC are looking at playing in League One next season. No passion, no fixes, steps backward and disgraceful.

I will not be paying money to watch bit part players from Luxembourg, more non-goal scoring strikers and a less than exciting wing coupled with a bum squeaking defence. If the club keep going like this despite the FFP there will be one less fan at any game home or away - I'm done with it all! I have been committed to the point I really cannot watch the demise of BWFC anymore - it is heartbreaking.
Why oh why is DF looking to loan strikers that have scored 2 goals in 24 games? Why is DF bringing part time postmen to the Reebok? Why is DF trying bring Sunderland's rejects to BWFC? Not good enough - this all sound like BWFC are looking at playing in League One next season. No passion, no fixes, steps backward and disgraceful. I will not be paying money to watch bit part players from Luxembourg, more non-goal scoring strikers and a less than exciting wing coupled with a bum squeaking defence. If the club keep going like this despite the FFP there will be one less fan at any game home or away - I'm done with it all! I have been committed to the point I really cannot watch the demise of BWFC anymore - it is heartbreaking. Beyond News Forum
  • Score: 7

12:21pm Mon 27 Jan 14

Beyond News Forum says...

BTW Good afternoon Marc. :)
BTW Good afternoon Marc. :) Beyond News Forum
  • Score: 0

12:37pm Mon 27 Jan 14

BrendanJabbers says...

I think Dougie should get Businessman of the Year if he offloads Ngog to Swansea. If Ngog's earning as much as he's reputed to be (we can get FOUR loanees in on his wages??) then his goal return has been pitiful in his time at the Reebok.
I think Dougie should get Businessman of the Year if he offloads Ngog to Swansea. If Ngog's earning as much as he's reputed to be (we can get FOUR loanees in on his wages??) then his goal return has been pitiful in his time at the Reebok. BrendanJabbers
  • Score: 3

12:40pm Mon 27 Jan 14

Reebok Rhythm says...

Beyond News Forum wrote:
BTW Good afternoon Marc. :)
Totally agree with you pal, I'm disillusioned with it all. All we can do is reminisce of some of the greatest times we ever had! How I dearly miss the likes of Djorkaeff, Giannakopoulos, Campo, Okocha, Hierro, Speed, Jääskeläinen, N'Gotty.

The team now doesn't resemble anything of the 'never beaten' Wanderers' attitude we used to have, it's just an empty shell. The infrastructure is superb but the regime is abysmal and the impetus we once had has wilted. I have kept faith in Dougie Freedman but he is rapidly becoming a poor man's Coyle.

COYWM!
[quote][p][bold]Beyond News Forum[/bold] wrote: BTW Good afternoon Marc. :)[/p][/quote]Totally agree with you pal, I'm disillusioned with it all. All we can do is reminisce of some of the greatest times we ever had! How I dearly miss the likes of Djorkaeff, Giannakopoulos, Campo, Okocha, Hierro, Speed, Jääskeläinen, N'Gotty. The team now doesn't resemble anything of the 'never beaten' Wanderers' attitude we used to have, it's just an empty shell. The infrastructure is superb but the regime is abysmal and the impetus we once had has wilted. I have kept faith in Dougie Freedman but he is rapidly becoming a poor man's Coyle. COYWM! Reebok Rhythm
  • Score: 1

1:31pm Mon 27 Jan 14

Jance says...

Josh Vela, Odelusi, Riley, Tom Eaves. All are definitely good enough. Too many players breezing through games (Chungy, Eagles mainly), no effort. Massive clearout in the summer and we can maybe look to move forward!
Josh Vela, Odelusi, Riley, Tom Eaves. All are definitely good enough. Too many players breezing through games (Chungy, Eagles mainly), no effort. Massive clearout in the summer and we can maybe look to move forward! Jance
  • Score: 2

2:28pm Mon 27 Jan 14

Beyond News Forum says...

Reebok Rhythm wrote:
Beyond News Forum wrote:
BTW Good afternoon Marc. :)
Totally agree with you pal, I'm disillusioned with it all. All we can do is reminisce of some of the greatest times we ever had! How I dearly miss the likes of Djorkaeff, Giannakopoulos, Campo, Okocha, Hierro, Speed, Jääskeläinen, N'Gotty.

The team now doesn't resemble anything of the 'never beaten' Wanderers' attitude we used to have, it's just an empty shell. The infrastructure is superb but the regime is abysmal and the impetus we once had has wilted. I have kept faith in Dougie Freedman but he is rapidly becoming a poor man's Coyle.

COYWM!
As I have said in the past, I was there through the upward movements of the SA days, very close to the 'family' circle of the club. I have witnessed, listened to and learned a lot behind the scenes. I cannot implore DF enough to go down the SA route rather than this destructive youth route - BWFC are not ready for that kind of player until we are able to build on being in the PL - we are not there and look a million miles away from that.

Yes we have some very good talent waiting in the fold, but that needs to be blended with the right kind of experience - hungry players like Djorkaeff, Giannakopoulos, Campo, Okocha, Hierro, Speed, Jääskeläinen, N'Gotty you mention. The experience and wage bill was nothing like what we have today in comparison - and those that did earn the extra little bit were worth every penny of their tenure.

We are not going to get out of the Championship trying to play Premier League football - we need to get ugly, passionate and stalwart, even cheeky like the BWFC of old. This team just is NOT physical and clever enough to compete in the Championship. In terms of capabilities between teams in the lower leagues and the PL, the gap has closed - time and time again the PL teams recently have struggled to cope with the physical nature of lower league clubs. I do not doubt for one minute that if DF was to channel more of the Big Sam effect through the team then the results will come and we will see a different DF capable of moving the team back upwards and ultimately into the PL - he tries to tell fans this is about educating the club, but it is he who needs to educate himself on how the Mighty Whites family s motivated. He is trying to move into our family and tell us our history is completely something else and that his brand of football is better for the club - I think thousands of fans cannot be wrong when they say it is not working his way.

We can clearly see how ragged the players are being run from the stands. Nothing in midfield, nothing up front, nothing in the middle and bar Mills and Ream the defence is an abomination.

Okay we may never see the likes of the players mentioned above back at the club - for me what SA did was legendary, never to be repeated given the standards of players gracing these waters recently - however I do feel there are a few that can be tapped from Real Madrid, Roma, PSG and Bayern Munich that are excellent players at the end of their contracts, not even warming the bench who would jump at the chance of rekindling their careers at BWFC, who have the hunger to succeed and drop their wage demands - this isn't about agents - even agents know when something good can come from being savvy with their clients - just ask Big Sam...

I will never forget Phil Brown tapping me on the shoulder to get a box ready for Hidetoshi Nakata at 5:30am (10 minutes to get it done) - it wasn't my job to do, but we quickly worked as a team to kick the bottoms of De Vere's staff to make it happen - 5:30am??? Such was the passion of everyone at the club... what the hell happened? Those were exciting days, every day brought a new surprise - that all seems lost in and unmotivated, demoralized mentality from reception to scouts and ultimately players and fans.

Can you imagine a Campo or JJ in the dressing room today and what effect those players alone would have on the team's moral? Such were the personalities of these players - Rio Gardner included.

I am devastated for the club... it would be good to get an in depth report on the situation rather than just glossing over the un-glossable.

COYWM
[quote][p][bold]Reebok Rhythm[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Beyond News Forum[/bold] wrote: BTW Good afternoon Marc. :)[/p][/quote]Totally agree with you pal, I'm disillusioned with it all. All we can do is reminisce of some of the greatest times we ever had! How I dearly miss the likes of Djorkaeff, Giannakopoulos, Campo, Okocha, Hierro, Speed, Jääskeläinen, N'Gotty. The team now doesn't resemble anything of the 'never beaten' Wanderers' attitude we used to have, it's just an empty shell. The infrastructure is superb but the regime is abysmal and the impetus we once had has wilted. I have kept faith in Dougie Freedman but he is rapidly becoming a poor man's Coyle. COYWM![/p][/quote]As I have said in the past, I was there through the upward movements of the SA days, very close to the 'family' circle of the club. I have witnessed, listened to and learned a lot behind the scenes. I cannot implore DF enough to go down the SA route rather than this destructive youth route - BWFC are not ready for that kind of player until we are able to build on being in the PL - we are not there and look a million miles away from that. Yes we have some very good talent waiting in the fold, but that needs to be blended with the right kind of experience - hungry players like Djorkaeff, Giannakopoulos, Campo, Okocha, Hierro, Speed, Jääskeläinen, N'Gotty you mention. The experience and wage bill was nothing like what we have today in comparison - and those that did earn the extra little bit were worth every penny of their tenure. We are not going to get out of the Championship trying to play Premier League football - we need to get ugly, passionate and stalwart, even cheeky like the BWFC of old. This team just is NOT physical and clever enough to compete in the Championship. In terms of capabilities between teams in the lower leagues and the PL, the gap has closed - time and time again the PL teams recently have struggled to cope with the physical nature of lower league clubs. I do not doubt for one minute that if DF was to channel more of the Big Sam effect through the team then the results will come and we will see a different DF capable of moving the team back upwards and ultimately into the PL - he tries to tell fans this is about educating the club, but it is he who needs to educate himself on how the Mighty Whites family s motivated. He is trying to move into our family and tell us our history is completely something else and that his brand of football is better for the club - I think thousands of fans cannot be wrong when they say it is not working his way. We can clearly see how ragged the players are being run from the stands. Nothing in midfield, nothing up front, nothing in the middle and bar Mills and Ream the defence is an abomination. Okay we may never see the likes of the players mentioned above back at the club - for me what SA did was legendary, never to be repeated given the standards of players gracing these waters recently - however I do feel there are a few that can be tapped from Real Madrid, Roma, PSG and Bayern Munich that are excellent players at the end of their contracts, not even warming the bench who would jump at the chance of rekindling their careers at BWFC, who have the hunger to succeed and drop their wage demands - this isn't about agents - even agents know when something good can come from being savvy with their clients - just ask Big Sam... I will never forget Phil Brown tapping me on the shoulder to get a box ready for Hidetoshi Nakata at 5:30am (10 minutes to get it done) - it wasn't my job to do, but we quickly worked as a team to kick the bottoms of De Vere's staff to make it happen - 5:30am??? Such was the passion of everyone at the club... what the hell happened? Those were exciting days, every day brought a new surprise - that all seems lost in and unmotivated, demoralized mentality from reception to scouts and ultimately players and fans. Can you imagine a Campo or JJ in the dressing room today and what effect those players alone would have on the team's moral? Such were the personalities of these players - Rio Gardner included. I am devastated for the club... it would be good to get an in depth report on the situation rather than just glossing over the un-glossable. COYWM Beyond News Forum
  • Score: 5

2:34pm Mon 27 Jan 14

Beyond News Forum says...

And thanks for the replies Marc ;)
And thanks for the replies Marc ;) Beyond News Forum
  • Score: 0

3:00pm Mon 27 Jan 14

Reebok Rhythm says...

Beyond News Forum wrote:
Reebok Rhythm wrote:
Beyond News Forum wrote:
BTW Good afternoon Marc. :)
Totally agree with you pal, I'm disillusioned with it all. All we can do is reminisce of some of the greatest times we ever had! How I dearly miss the likes of Djorkaeff, Giannakopoulos, Campo, Okocha, Hierro, Speed, Jääskeläinen, N'Gotty.

The team now doesn't resemble anything of the 'never beaten' Wanderers' attitude we used to have, it's just an empty shell. The infrastructure is superb but the regime is abysmal and the impetus we once had has wilted. I have kept faith in Dougie Freedman but he is rapidly becoming a poor man's Coyle.

COYWM!
As I have said in the past, I was there through the upward movements of the SA days, very close to the 'family' circle of the club. I have witnessed, listened to and learned a lot behind the scenes. I cannot implore DF enough to go down the SA route rather than this destructive youth route - BWFC are not ready for that kind of player until we are able to build on being in the PL - we are not there and look a million miles away from that.

Yes we have some very good talent waiting in the fold, but that needs to be blended with the right kind of experience - hungry players like Djorkaeff, Giannakopoulos, Campo, Okocha, Hierro, Speed, Jääskeläinen, N'Gotty you mention. The experience and wage bill was nothing like what we have today in comparison - and those that did earn the extra little bit were worth every penny of their tenure.

We are not going to get out of the Championship trying to play Premier League football - we need to get ugly, passionate and stalwart, even cheeky like the BWFC of old. This team just is NOT physical and clever enough to compete in the Championship. In terms of capabilities between teams in the lower leagues and the PL, the gap has closed - time and time again the PL teams recently have struggled to cope with the physical nature of lower league clubs. I do not doubt for one minute that if DF was to channel more of the Big Sam effect through the team then the results will come and we will see a different DF capable of moving the team back upwards and ultimately into the PL - he tries to tell fans this is about educating the club, but it is he who needs to educate himself on how the Mighty Whites family s motivated. He is trying to move into our family and tell us our history is completely something else and that his brand of football is better for the club - I think thousands of fans cannot be wrong when they say it is not working his way.

We can clearly see how ragged the players are being run from the stands. Nothing in midfield, nothing up front, nothing in the middle and bar Mills and Ream the defence is an abomination.

Okay we may never see the likes of the players mentioned above back at the club - for me what SA did was legendary, never to be repeated given the standards of players gracing these waters recently - however I do feel there are a few that can be tapped from Real Madrid, Roma, PSG and Bayern Munich that are excellent players at the end of their contracts, not even warming the bench who would jump at the chance of rekindling their careers at BWFC, who have the hunger to succeed and drop their wage demands - this isn't about agents - even agents know when something good can come from being savvy with their clients - just ask Big Sam...

I will never forget Phil Brown tapping me on the shoulder to get a box ready for Hidetoshi Nakata at 5:30am (10 minutes to get it done) - it wasn't my job to do, but we quickly worked as a team to kick the bottoms of De Vere's staff to make it happen - 5:30am??? Such was the passion of everyone at the club... what the hell happened? Those were exciting days, every day brought a new surprise - that all seems lost in and unmotivated, demoralized mentality from reception to scouts and ultimately players and fans.

Can you imagine a Campo or JJ in the dressing room today and what effect those players alone would have on the team's moral? Such were the personalities of these players - Rio Gardner included.

I am devastated for the club... it would be good to get an in depth report on the situation rather than just glossing over the un-glossable.

COYWM
I echo every sentiment, top post. It doesn't make it any easier for us though.
[quote][p][bold]Beyond News Forum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Reebok Rhythm[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Beyond News Forum[/bold] wrote: BTW Good afternoon Marc. :)[/p][/quote]Totally agree with you pal, I'm disillusioned with it all. All we can do is reminisce of some of the greatest times we ever had! How I dearly miss the likes of Djorkaeff, Giannakopoulos, Campo, Okocha, Hierro, Speed, Jääskeläinen, N'Gotty. The team now doesn't resemble anything of the 'never beaten' Wanderers' attitude we used to have, it's just an empty shell. The infrastructure is superb but the regime is abysmal and the impetus we once had has wilted. I have kept faith in Dougie Freedman but he is rapidly becoming a poor man's Coyle. COYWM![/p][/quote]As I have said in the past, I was there through the upward movements of the SA days, very close to the 'family' circle of the club. I have witnessed, listened to and learned a lot behind the scenes. I cannot implore DF enough to go down the SA route rather than this destructive youth route - BWFC are not ready for that kind of player until we are able to build on being in the PL - we are not there and look a million miles away from that. Yes we have some very good talent waiting in the fold, but that needs to be blended with the right kind of experience - hungry players like Djorkaeff, Giannakopoulos, Campo, Okocha, Hierro, Speed, Jääskeläinen, N'Gotty you mention. The experience and wage bill was nothing like what we have today in comparison - and those that did earn the extra little bit were worth every penny of their tenure. We are not going to get out of the Championship trying to play Premier League football - we need to get ugly, passionate and stalwart, even cheeky like the BWFC of old. This team just is NOT physical and clever enough to compete in the Championship. In terms of capabilities between teams in the lower leagues and the PL, the gap has closed - time and time again the PL teams recently have struggled to cope with the physical nature of lower league clubs. I do not doubt for one minute that if DF was to channel more of the Big Sam effect through the team then the results will come and we will see a different DF capable of moving the team back upwards and ultimately into the PL - he tries to tell fans this is about educating the club, but it is he who needs to educate himself on how the Mighty Whites family s motivated. He is trying to move into our family and tell us our history is completely something else and that his brand of football is better for the club - I think thousands of fans cannot be wrong when they say it is not working his way. We can clearly see how ragged the players are being run from the stands. Nothing in midfield, nothing up front, nothing in the middle and bar Mills and Ream the defence is an abomination. Okay we may never see the likes of the players mentioned above back at the club - for me what SA did was legendary, never to be repeated given the standards of players gracing these waters recently - however I do feel there are a few that can be tapped from Real Madrid, Roma, PSG and Bayern Munich that are excellent players at the end of their contracts, not even warming the bench who would jump at the chance of rekindling their careers at BWFC, who have the hunger to succeed and drop their wage demands - this isn't about agents - even agents know when something good can come from being savvy with their clients - just ask Big Sam... I will never forget Phil Brown tapping me on the shoulder to get a box ready for Hidetoshi Nakata at 5:30am (10 minutes to get it done) - it wasn't my job to do, but we quickly worked as a team to kick the bottoms of De Vere's staff to make it happen - 5:30am??? Such was the passion of everyone at the club... what the hell happened? Those were exciting days, every day brought a new surprise - that all seems lost in and unmotivated, demoralized mentality from reception to scouts and ultimately players and fans. Can you imagine a Campo or JJ in the dressing room today and what effect those players alone would have on the team's moral? Such were the personalities of these players - Rio Gardner included. I am devastated for the club... it would be good to get an in depth report on the situation rather than just glossing over the un-glossable. COYWM[/p][/quote]I echo every sentiment, top post. It doesn't make it any easier for us though. Reebok Rhythm
  • Score: 2

4:13pm Mon 27 Jan 14

beechd says...

Looks like another mediocre player from the DF school of bad buys, he pipes on about loans are no good and give the youth a chance yet does exactly the opposite, season was wrote off weeks ago so he may as we'll cull the dead wood and try some of the youth team,Lester, Vela, Eaves etc. try and get some interest in Chungy as well as he's just not cut out for this league, bye bye to Eagles and Mears, Knight, Medo, Mills, etc
Looks like another mediocre player from the DF school of bad buys, he pipes on about loans are no good and give the youth a chance yet does exactly the opposite, season was wrote off weeks ago so he may as we'll cull the dead wood and try some of the youth team,Lester, Vela, Eaves etc. try and get some interest in Chungy as well as he's just not cut out for this league, bye bye to Eagles and Mears, Knight, Medo, Mills, etc beechd
  • Score: 1

4:16pm Mon 27 Jan 14

JustaBloke2000 says...

What did Freedman admire about Jutkiewicz, his hair? His witty repartee? It can't have been his goal scoring record as that is pretty poor...
What did Freedman admire about Jutkiewicz, his hair? His witty repartee? It can't have been his goal scoring record as that is pretty poor... JustaBloke2000
  • Score: 2

4:24pm Mon 27 Jan 14

beechd says...

Medo would struggle to find someone in pass the parcel, let's face it except for Dawson (inspiring) Mcnaughton (dependable) and Danns ( mr reliable) who else has he signed of significance?
I think even the most optimistic of fans can see DF just isn't the man for the job if you want a quick fix, if it's the long game then only time will tell.

God help us if that's the case !!!!!!!!
Medo would struggle to find someone in pass the parcel, let's face it except for Dawson (inspiring) Mcnaughton (dependable) and Danns ( mr reliable) who else has he signed of significance? I think even the most optimistic of fans can see DF just isn't the man for the job if you want a quick fix, if it's the long game then only time will tell. God help us if that's the case !!!!!!!! beechd
  • Score: 0

4:34pm Mon 27 Jan 14

JustaBloke2000 says...

beechd wrote:
Medo would struggle to find someone in pass the parcel, let's face it except for Dawson (inspiring) Mcnaughton (dependable) and Danns ( mr reliable) who else has he signed of significance?
I think even the most optimistic of fans can see DF just isn't the man for the job if you want a quick fix, if it's the long game then only time will tell.

God help us if that's the case !!!!!!!!
Quick fixes would just be plastering over cracks, though. DF has always been one for the long game, building things up from scratch again. I'm still not sure he's the right man for the job but at least I can understand 'some' of the stuff he's doing.
Other things, not so much...
[quote][p][bold]beechd[/bold] wrote: Medo would struggle to find someone in pass the parcel, let's face it except for Dawson (inspiring) Mcnaughton (dependable) and Danns ( mr reliable) who else has he signed of significance? I think even the most optimistic of fans can see DF just isn't the man for the job if you want a quick fix, if it's the long game then only time will tell. God help us if that's the case !!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Quick fixes would just be plastering over cracks, though. DF has always been one for the long game, building things up from scratch again. I'm still not sure he's the right man for the job but at least I can understand 'some' of the stuff he's doing. Other things, not so much... JustaBloke2000
  • Score: 1

4:56pm Mon 27 Jan 14

J J J J says...

I have been following this live blog throughout the day and saw that DF has pulled off a miracle in getting Swansea to buy N'gog, What a genius. He should now re-invest this money into the defence. As long as you keep a clean sheet you are guaranteed at least a point. He now has to opportunity to buy some defenders or loan them whichever way. I would abandon the deal to sign that jutkiewics and play Craig Davies. and if he gets injured I would throw a youth team player in because keeping clean sheet will mean if we get a goal we are more than likely to win because of the stability at the back.
I have been following this live blog throughout the day and saw that DF has pulled off a miracle in getting Swansea to buy N'gog, What a genius. He should now re-invest this money into the defence. As long as you keep a clean sheet you are guaranteed at least a point. He now has to opportunity to buy some defenders or loan them whichever way. I would abandon the deal to sign that jutkiewics and play Craig Davies. and if he gets injured I would throw a youth team player in because keeping clean sheet will mean if we get a goal we are more than likely to win because of the stability at the back. J J J J
  • Score: 0

5:05pm Mon 27 Jan 14

M.I.B. says...

It's been great having Wiltshire, Sturridge and one or two others playing under our badge, but for every great player we've had, I'm guessing we've plenty more turkeys too.

I've never been a fan of us loaning players. Why should we potentially improve another teams players worth and give them game time, whilst at the same time diminishing our own players? It doesn't make any sense unless we buy the player at the end of the loan term.
It's been great having Wiltshire, Sturridge and one or two others playing under our badge, but for every great player we've had, I'm guessing we've plenty more turkeys too. I've never been a fan of us loaning players. Why should we potentially improve another teams players worth and give them game time, whilst at the same time diminishing our own players? It doesn't make any sense unless we buy the player at the end of the loan term. M.I.B.
  • Score: 0

6:22pm Mon 27 Jan 14

Worksopbwfc says...

Why not have a whp round and bring back who was a instant hit with the fans and a great ray of sunshine in this winter spell FEENEY AND SELL DEAD WOOD..
Why not have a whp round and bring back who was a instant hit with the fans and a great ray of sunshine in this winter spell FEENEY AND SELL DEAD WOOD.. Worksopbwfc
  • Score: 0

7:05pm Mon 27 Jan 14

luckyPeterpiper says...

Hi marc, has a deal actually been done for jutkiewicz or what mate? I'm seriously hoping not, 2 goals in 24 doesn't overwhelm me with confidence. He looks like another bench warmer to me.
Hi marc, has a deal actually been done for jutkiewicz or what mate? I'm seriously hoping not, 2 goals in 24 doesn't overwhelm me with confidence. He looks like another bench warmer to me. luckyPeterpiper
  • Score: 0

7:18pm Mon 27 Jan 14

LondonWhite says...

Popescu playing left back with Andy Kellett in midfield or what? Pretty thin in midfield? Just Luke Woodland?
Popescu playing left back with Andy Kellett in midfield or what? Pretty thin in midfield? Just Luke Woodland? LondonWhite
  • Score: 0

7:25pm Mon 27 Jan 14

genesis22 says...

so DF says we are two strikers away from being a top team, I assume he is referring to Messi & Suarez - didn't realise they were being loaned out. As for his comment the first 25 minutes will be important at QPR tomorrow, do we assume if we are not 0-4 down at that stage we should have a chance ? Have you ever, ever, heard such banal rubbish uttered by a manager, I guess his remarks are at least in tandem with the garbage displays his team subjects us to. Will someone please remind him, if you cannot think of anything remotely sensible to say, keep quiet. PS - did he ever go to school or was he raised by monkeys in the jungle.?
so DF says we are two strikers away from being a top team, I assume he is referring to Messi & Suarez - didn't realise they were being loaned out. As for his comment the first 25 minutes will be important at QPR tomorrow, do we assume if we are not 0-4 down at that stage we should have a chance ? Have you ever, ever, heard such banal rubbish uttered by a manager, I guess his remarks are at least in tandem with the garbage displays his team subjects us to. Will someone please remind him, if you cannot think of anything remotely sensible to say, keep quiet. PS - did he ever go to school or was he raised by monkeys in the jungle.? genesis22
  • Score: 0

7:53pm Mon 27 Jan 14

J J J J says...

I have been following this live blog throughout the day and saw that DF has pulled off a miracle in getting Swansea to buy N'gog, What a genius. He should now re-invest this money into the defence. As long as you keep a clean sheet you are guaranteed at least a point. He now has to opportunity to buy some defenders or loan them whichever way. I would abandon the deal to sign that jutkiewics and play Craig Davies. and if he gets injured I would throw a youth team player in because keeping clean sheet will mean if we get a goal we are more than likely to win because of the stability at the back.
I have been following this live blog throughout the day and saw that DF has pulled off a miracle in getting Swansea to buy N'gog, What a genius. He should now re-invest this money into the defence. As long as you keep a clean sheet you are guaranteed at least a point. He now has to opportunity to buy some defenders or loan them whichever way. I would abandon the deal to sign that jutkiewics and play Craig Davies. and if he gets injured I would throw a youth team player in because keeping clean sheet will mean if we get a goal we are more than likely to win because of the stability at the back. J J J J
  • Score: 1

11:03am Tue 28 Jan 14

Jance says...

Before we start bringing players in, Freedman needs to learn to motivate his players, because when the going gets tough this lot don't have the fight in them to dig in. If you don't have these basics then you've got nothing in this league.
Before we start bringing players in, Freedman needs to learn to motivate his players, because when the going gets tough this lot don't have the fight in them to dig in. If you don't have these basics then you've got nothing in this league. Jance
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