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11:20pm

11:12pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Armitage93 says

When you go for top players, there's always a high chance you lose out. If you don't speculate, you don't accumulate. Luckily for us though, i'm sure Dougie has more on his list and 1 will be in by next Saturday

11:10pm

Looks like the Nick Powell deal has gone through. Was waiting on some sort of confirmation - but he was definitely on Freedman's list.

11:08pm

5:53pm 

Sky saying Nick Powell close to signing for Leicester City. Had a hunch he might be a go-to man for Wanderers at some point... but only a hunch.

11:02pm

Remember a few years ago when Marvin Sordell's move from Watford was subject to one of these extended deadline palavers (much like Wellbeck and Falcao). Annoying for the journalists concerned, believe me.

11:00pm

Thank heavens for that...

10:59pm

Less than a minute to go...

10:56pm

10:56pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Armitage93 says

In the States for the next week Marc, so its only 6pm here! The bias US open coverage of the tennis and the lack of Bolton activity forced my hand I'm afraid haha

10:56pm

Some of these Sky presenters are looking rather creepy in this lighting.

10:55pm

Sands of time ticking down on the deadline. Jim White will be ultra shouty very soon.

10:53pm

Phew... That's quite some body of work for this time of night. Do you want a job??

10:52pm

10:46pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Armitage93 says

Boredom has hit me this deadline day, however here is an essay for anyone just as bored as I am

Fellow Bolton fans probably won’t like this, but its time for a reality check.

The club has been absolutely crippled since a year before relegation, at least. Players commanding huge fees, to later leave on a free transfer, monumental wage packets, still being paid off to this very day and these very same players then to leave on nothing other than a free transfer. The clubs’ previous transfer policy could be described with one word, unsustainable. Look at Gary Cahill as an example. City offered 17m, we accepted 7m from Chelsea, because Mr Coyle felt he would have more opportunities there. It is exactly this type of attitude in conjunction with lavish spending on has beens that has got us exactly where we are.

However now is not the time to point the finger, quite the contrary in fact. Right now we need a front that displays unity, fight, and spirit. The same spirit that kept us in the Premier League all those years. We sit here, hoping for signings, hoping and praying that a mystery player will come in, kick on, and fire us to the promise land. Realistically, that isnt going to happen; not without an exit at the very least. There is no point sitting here, swearing, pointing the finger at each other, just because of the previous leadership going out and spending any money they possibly could.

The job Dougie Freedman has is an awful one. Cut the wage bill enormously, while still expected to move the club forward; with no cash backing. All of this has to be achieved, at the same time the likes of Nottingham Forest can go out and splash 5m on Britt Assombalonga, or the likes of Cardiff City go and spend 5m on an international centre half with experience at the highest level. I just dont know how Bolton fans think, realistically, we can compete here at the moment. It’s a balancing act. What is more important? The future of this club, or a few players walk in, perhaps not perform, and us undergo an embargo and become the embarrassment of the footballing world.

Keeping performances upto scratch on the field, with all the chaos that occurs off it financially, is a nigh on impossible task, and one, im sure, not one of us could perform better than Dougie Freedman. Realistically, we have to rid ourselves of one player, to bring another in. We dont like it, we have been spoilt by players such as Nicholas Anelka coming through the door. However this can’t happen anymore. There is no use us spending millions on players that may not even shoot us up that league. The same principle was used in the Premier League and it got us relegated.

We can all accept performances on the field havent been good enough, and the obvious solution would be to go and sign some players. We dont have the financial muscle to go and force a clubs hand to loan someone to us. As much as we would like to secure a Nick Powell, we just can’t compete financially. We have to wheel and deal, one out, one or two in. The evident need is in attack, and rather than getting on the managers back, lets get to the games, shout from the rooftops and support the lads. Attackers will come, I am sure we will have at least one more for the Sheffield Wednesday game.

Frustrating, I know, but the future of this club is more important. Lets use the Leeds performance to crack on, and get some decent points on that league table. People need to remember, this is largely, the side that did very well at the end of last year. We have strengthened significantly with Feeney, Danns, Dervite, Moxey, Trotter and Danns.

Look at the positives fellow Bolton fans, the future of the club is more important. Signings will come, just be patient.

10:50pm

That was definitely a concern. Might well have been what has stopped the deal going through. I still think it might happen in the loan window, though.

10:49pm

10:45pm

Many thanks for that Townleys... brings back some memories and puts an afternoon tracking the whereabouts of Owen Garvan into some perspective!

10:40pm

There is a Twitter rumour doing the rounds about Leeds and Beckford... but surely not.

10:39pm

BBC reporting that Fulham have now struck a deal for Matt Smith of Leeds. They have been speaking with Beckford all day, so can't say for certain that it ends their interest.

10:38pm

10:35pm

Would be genuinely interested to see what clubs have spent in the Championship this summer. Aside from the compensation for the young lad Woolery in the development squad and loan fees, Wanderers haven't spent a sausage.

10:30pm

I've probably told this story before on a deadline day - but I interviewed Rivaldo in Greece a few years later (via an interpreter) and he confirmed he'd nearly signed for Bolton. It was in the days where not all stories in the paper made the website, and as such, I can't find any trace of it now!

10:28pm

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10:25pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Armitage93 says

Nothing like Bolton fans to over exaggerate. Don't see the point in loaning Beckford mark, only a sale would work surely. Still time yet

10:27pm

 
Nothing at all. Taking that as a sign it won't be done, at least until next week.

10:23pm

Juding by some of the comments, which I won't put on the timeline, some doubting whether there was any interest in Beckford/Davies/Halford/Garvan.

Well, we'll just have to agree to disagree.

10:18pm

Well I've sent my back page lead in now and out paper's deadline is approaching fast. Cue mass procession of late signings.

10:10pm

  • Mark Davies - Nothing since this morning. Two Premier League clubs sounded Wanderers out.
  • Greg Halford - Not happening. Offered to Wanderers and considered but looks dead and buried now.
  • Jermaine Beckford - Still talking to Fulham as far as I can tell. But I think that might still happen next week when the loan window reopens.
  • Owen Garvan - another one I think Wanderers will re-visit. Has options elsewhere tonight.

10:06pm

So about time we had a round-up...

9:59pm

 
Has been since this morning. Get the feeling he was the back-up option for a couple of clubs. Wanderers were also in a strong position for him - so could demand decent money.

9:58pm

Good point. It is a shame how it all panned out for Kev at Bolton. Plenty of mistakes made in that one...

9:58pm

9:47pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Townleys says

Wonder if he regrets it now?

Former Bolton player Kevin Davies recalls when he was involved in a transfer deadline saga: "It was the January transfer window three years ago. Sunderland came knocking and I'd a few chats with their manager Martin O'Neill.

"It came to deadline day, the agent turned up and the deal was on the table. I was told by the agent to bang on manager Owen Coyle's door and tell him I wanted to leave. I didn't want to do that. I wanted to sit down and talk about it. Owen looked me in the eye and said, 'you tell me you want to leave Bolton'. He kind of had me really. He knew I was the captain of the club and knew how much Bolton meant to me.

"It was a lot of information to take in on that day. I weighed it up with the family and worked out it wasn't the right move for us."

9:55pm

I know it's a source of frustration for him. In my view, deals for Jutkiewicz etc could have been done earlier - the waiting around has cost us a good player there.

9:54pm

Totally agree with that point. Freedman accountable for the team under-performing this season, no doubt, but he really hasn't been given much to work with in terms of strikers.

9:53pm

9:52pm

9:46pm

I do like the idea of posting stuff to myself with an alter ego, though. Would double my workload...

9:45pm

Just finishing my stuff for the paper tomorrow and saying my prayers that it doesn't change!

9:44pm

9:31pm Mon 1 Sep 14

jimborck says

are you sending yourself messages as " jjjj " just to give yourself something to do ?????

9:40pm

A piece of news that I have just been reminded about is that David Wheater's back injury doesn't look good.

He's been to the hospital today and will get an update for you tomorrow.

9:31pm

Blackburn sign Ryan Tunnicliffe from Fulham on loan. Good player.

9:29pm

The Bolton News: Ryo Miyaichi (left)

Remember this guy? Ryo Miyaichi...

Well he's on his way out of Arsenal, again, on loan to FC Twente in Holland.

9:28pm

 
Definite interest. Club offered him a short-term deal, he turned it down because there were other clubs interested. As yet, none of them have signed him.
Might be one that gets done next week.

9:27pm

9:21pm Mon 1 Sep 14

J J J J says

In all honesty Marc can you see anything happening in the last hour or so?

Well I have just written my back page lead... so it would be sod's law.

9:24pm

 
Would be surprised. I don't know for a fact it was Villa anyway. 

9:19pm

It's often quite sensitive too. Doesn't look good when clubs start issuing statements left, right and centre.

9:18pm

9:12pm Mon 1 Sep 14

J J J J says

Have the club made any comments on any of the "rumours"?

Doesn't work like that. No-one wants to confirm these things because if they don't happen, it's just us journalists that end up with egg on our faces :-)

9:17pm

9:10pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Jamster26 says

Marc, if Beckford does go, do you have the names of who we might go for? Heard Murray mentioned as a possible target, he would be good!

He looks like he's going to Reading. If he was available then I'd say he was on the list - but he's not.

9:17pm

9:10pm

Glenn Murray to Reading is back on, according to The Sun. Hasn't he signed like 10 times already today?

9:05pm

Glad you typed that and not me... We'll wait and see.

9:04pm

9:02pm

 
Good question. My hunch is that Beckford's representatives contacted Fulham because of the reaction to what happened at the weekend. Only a hunch, mind.
One thing I know for sure is that Wanderers did not hawk his name around.

9:01pm

 
FAO my employers...

9:01pm

8:56pm

8:49pm Mon 1 Sep 14

J J J J says

Whats to say we are all sat here contemplating what might happen and really nothing is happening and its all just talk and we are indeed set for a quiet deadline day. The power of the mind and all that

8:54pm

8:45pm Mon 1 Sep 14

radboy1 says

Is this the usual transfer deadline hype? Lots of promise and no action?

Depends what you mean. The bits and bobs I have reported on here "have happened" but the fact the club could end up with nothing to show for them doesn't mean it was hype.

8:53pm

Silence at Wanderers is deafening on this Beckford deal. Starting to have serious doubts it will go through now... which basically means we're back to square one.

8:44pm

8:38pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Armitage93 says

R.E your post at 8:34 Marc, do you mean a replacement to arrive tonight, i.e a target that can now be moved forward and cracked on with?

I don't think a replacement will come in tonight unless the Beckford thing goes through in next few mins. Just don't think they'll move that fast, and will wait until loan window opens next week.

8:39pm

 
I very much wish I could...

8:37pm

 
Well, I've got no choice... But the longer this Beckford thing drags on, the less confident I get.

8:34pm

I'm guessing a little - but don't think the Beckford thing will drag on to the bitter end. Know the manager is not keen on selling without a replacement in place and he's not the type to do last-minute deals.

8:32pm

Something called "Talking to Yourself" just started following me on Twitter. Art imitates life...

8:31pm

8:25pm

8:24pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Armitage93 says

Beckford on more than 10k a week? Surely for someone of his finishing caliber, we should be commanding a fee of above 500k. His representatives have clearly been talking to Fulham, thats where the noise came from. Im hopeful with him seemingly on the way there, Dougie can get a striker in before 11

 

That would be the very lower end of my guesstimate.

8:25pm

While I agree with that statement - he has lost a couple of strikers (Sordell, Ngog) that haven't been replaced. Can't keep fixing things with loans, IMHO.

8:23pm

8:20pm

8:17pm

It doesn't sound to me like a lot of money up front - but no specific figure mentioned. Would be a nice gap in the wage bill, though.

8:16pm

8:05pm Mon 1 Sep 14

J J J J says

Do we have a figure for beckford if he is planning to be let go? 6 figure 5 figure with add ons? Watch him go and score them about 15+ goals, would be a waste to let him go if we cant sign a striker permanently who will score us about 20+ goals, loans just wont suffice anymore we make them good and then send them back and cannot get them back.

8:16pm

Me too. Can only report as and when things happen.

8:15pm

8:15pm

 
Led to believe that Fulham have made the offer and that Wanderers are happy with it - just a matter of the player agreeing his terms, then a medical. But let's face it, that's when moves break down all the time.

8:14pm

8:04pm

8:02pm

So, looks like it's a late finish for me. Better get another brew on the go.

7:56pm

7:52pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Armitage93 says

What stage is Beckford at? Fee agreed? Is he on his way to Fulham?

They have talked a fee. Down to the player, I think.

7:56pm

7:55pm

You might have noticed my tweet before, but Modou Barrow has scored on his debut for Swansea Under-21s.

7:54pm

OK... Here's how I think things will pan out after another round of phone calls.

  • IF Jermaine Beckford goes to Fulham, DF will look to sign a striker, or two. 
  • That player IS NOT Greg Halford.
  • Halford has been offered to Wanderers. Deal not guaranteed at all.
  • If Garvan doesn't move on today, he might come to Wanderers in the loan window.
  • Everything is quiet on Mark Davies. Think that's over now.

7:47pm

But after seeing Marvin Sordell and David Ngog go, and not be replaced, it would be a big blow to lose another striker...

7:47pm

7:45pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Rowboti04 says

If Beckford goes, are we likely to make last ditch bid for this striker?

Got me all excited now.

IF Beckford goes, there will be money available. I wonder whether the incoming players will still wait for the loan window, though.

7:46pm

 
It's better. I can stand up any time I want and make myself a brew.

7:45pm

7:43pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Armitage93 says

What fee is being talked about for Jermaine?

It's enough to get two players on board in wages.

7:43pm

I just hope some of these comments are being seen by the powers that be...

#payrise

7:43pm

7:43pm

7:42pm

If Beckford goes, Halford IS NOT the striker they have lined up. 

7:41pm

7:35pm Mon 1 Sep 14

J J J J says

I think IF beckford does go we should replace him with a striker, keep in mind he was the club top scorer last season and strikers dont come cheap and they are very limited demand. Dont need garvan unless mark davies leaves and dont think we need halford in all honesty, goals win you games and solid defense which with confidence will come.

7:38pm

Blumming heck, Cardiff have just spent another £5million on Bruno Ecuele Manga, from French club L'Orient. Would love to see where Wanderers are in a Championship table of spending this summer.

7:36pm

Understand that Freedman does not want to lose Beckford without bringing in another striker - albeit that might have to happen on loan, in the next window.

7:35pm

Well, we must be doing well. They have upgraded me to a big picture on the front of the website...

7:34pm

He's definitely never had a medical...

7:33pm

7:24pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Rowboti04 says

Not sure where Murray is really!

Apparently Neil Ashton (Sky Sports) said he was having medical at Bolton this morning!

Just been assured that Murray won't be coming to Bolton. If he doesn't get fixed up today there will be a load of Championship clubs after him on loan. 

7:32pm

Garvan might well spill over to the loan window as it stands.

7:31pm

Talks have been confirmed. Fulham definitely interested. But I understand that it's unlikely that Halford, Garvan or anything else will happen unless Beckford goes through.

7:30pm

The Bolton News: BACK Jermaine Beckford

It looks like the whole night's work might just hinge on whether this fella ends up at Fulham. Looks 50-50 to me at the moment.

7:29pm

OK - have had a very good dig around and have a few bits of news for you guys.

7:18pm

The Bolton News: Greg Halford

Few reports suggesting this man - Greg Halford - could be coming Wanderers' way.

Big lad, full-back, centre-half and striker all rolled into one.

Waiting for any word from Wanderers...

7:16pm

7:15pm

 
I'd love to. I'd also be more like Jim White if I WROTE IN CAPITAL LETTERS AND PRETENDED I WAS SHOUTING EVERY SENTENCE!

7:13pm

7:08pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Armitage93 says

Honestly Marc... Are we working on an incoming or two for now? Just you can't say because of sensitivity in the deal... Is that why we haven't confirmed Beckford going?

I am honestly waiting on news. You guys watching the blog will be the first to get it. 

7:13pm

 
I can only say it came as a surprise to Wanderers when I called in earlier. You'd have to say, given what has happened this season, it might just be the best thing for both parties. But it's far from done.

7:05pm

 
FAO Newsquest - what he said...

7:02pm

I'm trying, believe me!

7:02pm

7:02pm

7:02pm

7:01pm

 
With actual cash to spend, he needs a target man type. Would have put good money on Murray - but then it seems he's wrapping up a move to Reading, doesn't it?

6:57pm

Agreed. And we know DF thinks the same...

6:57pm

6:54pm

6:49pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Armitage93 says

They need to do both, they've been playing Mccormack with Dembele(who is tripe). They need 2 strikers, and Rodallega is departing also to Levante

 

I quite like Dembele... Opinions and all that.

6:51pm

Been asked to do a summary... so here goes.

  • Two PL clubs have contacted Wanderers about Mark Davies but NO bid has been received.
  • Sources down at Palace say Wanderers have made an offer to midfielder Owen Garvan. Nothing confirmed.
  • Pretty much everyone is in agreement that Jermaine Beckford's "people" are speaking with Fulham.
  • Someone has written something about Morten Gamst Pedersen going to Bolton, which I'm not taking seriously at the moment.
  • Wanderers are definitely working on SOMETHING!

6:48pm

The Bolton News: Leeds United's Matt Smith, left, and Chesterfield's Nathan Smith tussle for possession at Elland Road

Fulham may well be speaking to Beckford - but a story that's been doing the rounds all day is that they want to sign Matt Smith from Leeds. Wonder if they'll do both?

 

6:46pm

Some news closer to home - Andy Proctor has signed for Accrington from Bury. Forgotten he was still there if I'm honest...

6:43pm

6:36pm

6:28pm

 
You can say that again...

6:27pm

6:27pm

Oh ye of little faith. In fairness, we could still get through the whole day without a single deal done.  But I've been more active than I thought I'd be at 9am when I was chewing on my cereal...

6:26pm

6:26pm

Well, it's definitely gone radio silent at Wanderers in the last hour. You'd like to think that means they have something more important to do than tell me to sling my hook.

6:25pm

6:22pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Townleys says

Latest on the interweb thingy.

http://footballleagu
eworld.co.uk/bolton-
wanderers-receive-ma
rk-davies-enquiries/

6:22pm

Gears do appear to be moving at Wanderers - quite against the odds considering how the day started. We might yet have some movement in and out of the club in the next four and a half hours.

6:19pm

That would be the million dollar question...

6:05pm

6:03pm Mon 1 Sep 14

nickyboy70 says

breaking news sky say jermain beckford in talks with Fulham who we going to get to replace him.

6:03pm

Lovely description of that Pedersen story on Twitter: "Mental, worst story I've ever heard."

5:59pm

That report has emerged on Twitter, so I'd give it a wider berth than a Fiat Punto towing a caravan along a dirt track... 

5:58pm

The Bolton News: NEW GOAL:  Gamst Pedersen

One from the left flank - totally unconfirmed conjecture at this point... But ex-Blackburn midfielder Morten Gamst Pedersen has apparently been offered a one-year deal with the Whites. 

5:53pm

Sky saying Nick Powell close to signing for Leicester City. Had a hunch he might be a go-to man for Wanderers at some point... but only a hunch.

5:52pm

5:50pm

5:25pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Armitage93 says

"Sheffield Wednesday have signed Royston Drenthe on loan from Reading. Another surprise one for me."

Think you'll be more surprised when you see him in the flesh Marc... Think he's had one too many pies sitting in the stands! Reading didn't even give him a squad number.

From Real Madrid to Hollands pies and a cold Sheffield. #PrayForDrenthe

5:49pm

Wrote a piece for tomorrow's paper on that very topic - but circumstances may yet overtake it if Fulham make a proper bid.

5:48pm

Beckford has one year left on his contract at it's safe to say Bolton fans are less than enamoured with him after "thumbs-gate" at Leeds on Saturday.

5:46pm

Quite a few national papers carrying the Beckford story - which pads out the idea it's his representatives doing the talking.

5:43pm

Still no official word from Wanderers on Beckford or Garvan.

5:42pm

Another temporary break while a wolf down tea (jacket potato, beans, cheese seeing as you ask).

5:23pm

 
Need to double check this - but haven't heard of one.

5:20pm

5:17pm Mon 1 Sep 14

chrisatty says

If Beckford does go to Fulham, do you know if Dougie will have someone in mind to replace him?

 

I think this is a bit of a surprise one. Whether he goes immediately for the striker he had in mind, perhaps...

5:20pm

Sheffield Wednesday have signed Royston Drenthe on loan from Reading. Another surprise one for me.

5:15pm

Thought this was going to be a nice quiet night, file my back page lead about 7pm and watch a couple of episodes of Walking Dead... but no!

5:14pm

Some speculating that the Beckford to Fulham deal might have come about because Hugo Rodallega - remember him? - is due to sign for Spanish club Levante.

5:11pm

5:11pm

5:03pm Mon 1 Sep 14

J J J J says

Anything from the club on beckford?

 

4.56pm update the best one I have at the moment...

5:08pm

The Bolton News: David Ngog - a target for Premier League Swansea City?

This man, David Ngog, has joined French club Reims on a two-year contract.

5:08pm

More breaking news!

4:56pm

OK - had a slight update on the Beckford situation. Sounds like it's a story that has emerged from the Fulham end. May be agent talking with Fulham. Hasn't reached Wanderers yet, a bit like the Davies situation earlier.

In short, until a proper bid is made, treat with caution.

4:46pm

  • No movement on Davies. Was told a couple of clubs had contacted but to my knowledge there hasn't been any bid.
  • Murray looks likes he's off to Reading, but then he was always likely to.
  • No confirmation from BWFC on Garvan. Palace sources say it's 50-50 because he wants a longer deal than the one being offered.
  • Beckford to Fulham just made be choke on my cup of tea,

4:44pm

4:37pm

The Bolton News: Jermaine Beckford

And how about this one.... Jermaine Beckford talking to Fulham, according to The Guardian.

4:27pm

The Bolton News: Rivaldo. Not signing for Saints. Probably.

Nice piece on "that" Rivaldo deal back in the day here on the Lion of Vienna website.

4:24pm

Burnley have signed Nathaniel Chabaloah, which you'd guess makes the chances of them signing Mark Davies less likely.

4:20pm

 
Wouldn't be transfer deadline day without a Diouffy rumour!

4:11pm

My hunch, for what it is worth, is that Garvan could be a back-up in case Mark Davies is sold. Hearing that he's been offered a short-term deal but wants one for longer.

4:10pm

4:05pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Armitage93 says

Garvan: 11 goals, 9 assists in 63 games for Palace.

Not bad..

4:05pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Armitage93 says

87 games sorry

4:09pm

But I definitely don't want to say "never" - doubted the Garvan story this morning and looks like that one might have some legs.

4:08pm

People I speak to down at Palace reckon they need to sign a striker first before even considering loaning him out.

4:08pm

Reports that Glenn Murray left the Palace training ground at 2.45pm might be true, but I can't for the life of me see him coming to Bolton today. 

4:02pm

 
If you'd asked me that an hour ago, I'd have said "very" - but there might just be something to get my teeth into now. 

3:59pm

The Bolton News: Owen Garvan

Sources down south absolutely adamant there have been discussions between Bolton and Crystal Palace about a deal for Owen Garvan.

Led to believe that a short-term offer is on the table for the midfielder but that he might want something more substantial.

 

 

 

3:56pm

 
Just a slight possibility that things are about to warm up...

3:56pm

3:44pm

Murray I'd be flipping amazed, Garvan a little less so.

3:44pm

3:40pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Townleys says

Sky Sports News reporter at Crystal Palace just mentioned Bolton Wanderers twice in same update. One was in relation to Glenn Murray. Not sure about the other one. Anyone shed any light? Not that we will end up with either of course.

3:43pm

Sources in South London are firming up this Owen Garvan story. Must admit, it would still surpirse me. Not the position DF was looking to fill but perhaps Trotter's absence has forced his hand...

3:41pm

 
Not deliberate - just have a few phone calls buzzing round. 

3:40pm

3:35pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Armitage93 says

Part of me feels Villa wanted Davies but have gone for Canales. Prove me wrong please!

3:37pm

3:35pm Mon 1 Sep 14

J_BWFC says

Are we not owed a chelsea player on loan from Cahill transfer ?

No. No. And thrice no. 

3:37pm

The Bolton News: Owen Garvan celebrates his goal with Wilfried Zaha. PICTURES BY ALAN STANFORD.

Crystal Palace's Owen Garvan, pictured celebrating with Wilfried Zaha, is being linked with Wanderers by Sky Sports.

 

3:33pm

Meanwhile, former Wanderers striker Delroy Facey is charged with match fixing. Very sad.

3:32pm

Just checking something out...

3:32pm

3:27pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Armitage93 says

You've gone quiet Marc, you've got news haven't you!

3:31pm

Middlesbrough sign Jelle Vossen. Another good player. They are spending some cash this summer.

3:10pm

Liam Trotter out for 10 weeks with hamstring tear, while Marc Tierney back at the end of the year, we think.

3:09pm

On top of that, we have David Wheater with a back strain, Kevin McNaughton (hamstring), Dean Moxey (bruised foot) back after the international break, we hope.

3:07pm

Mark Davies - Unknown. DF said he was fine last Tuesday but then ruled him out of Saturday. All a bit of a mystery.

Josh Vela - Heard his knee had been troubling him and swelling up. Talk of an operation.

Stu Holden - Still doing rehab. Won't be doing continual updates on him because I think he needs to get himself entirely right, sans pressure. 

3:05pm

2:56pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Rowboti04 says

Marc,

Do you have an update on injuries?

Mark Davies, Josh Vela and Stuart Holden?

I think all these three can play a vital role this season, including Holden.

3:05pm

3:01pm Mon 1 Sep 14

J J J J says

If and only IF Mark Davies leaves (im hoping nothing comes of it but with the club needing the funds its understandable) I would be happy to see someone like Nick Powell from United always had a spark at Wigan and United paid a pretty penny for him too, Could do a job for us even if it is a loan.

3:05pm

Another ex-Wanderers target on the move. The Sun reporting that Scott Sinclair could be on his way to Stoke City.

2:51pm

Someone asked about an XI of signings in the Freedman era that we missed out on. Here's my best stab, bearing in mind I have a terrible memory for names.

 

Not sure about a keeper... Haven't really tried to sign one since Dougie has been here.

But outfield...

 

Ramage Dawson Hudson Popov/Dyrestam

Kightly Jedinak Pilkington

Jutkiewicz Barrow Buckey

2:43pm

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2:32pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Armitage93 says

Are there any signs of action at the club Marc? In regards to Davies or the loans incoming etc, any escalated movements whatsoever?

 

Zero, nada so far...

2:39pm

2:28pm Mon 1 Sep 14

JustaBloke2000 says

Andrew Johnson hasn't been a prolific goalscorer since 2006 and he's now 33. I don't think it's a case of not being able to afford him, I think he'd be a waste of money no matter what he'd be asking for.

2:39pm

£500k plus a few add-ons if he does well.

2:39pm

2:32pm Mon 1 Sep 14

J_BWFC says

Did we get any funds from the Sordell transfer ?

2:28pm

Hear the Modou Barrow deal was £1.5m... Crikey.

2:27pm

 
Freedman enquired about him last summer but haven't heard anything this time. And Johnson wants huge wages.

2:24pm

The Bolton News:

Here he is - looked a good prospect on tour and know Freedman rated him. But the Wanderers boss simply couldn't afford what they were asking at the time. Will be interesting to see what Swansea paid.

2:23pm

Yes - Modou Barrow - the lad who played briefly on the Scandinavian tour for Wanderers has signed for Swansea.

2:22pm

2:04pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Armitage93 says

Modou Barrow has signed for Swansea. Another case of, Freedman spotting players with talent, not being given the little cash to splash with a view to making a larger sum in the future. Got to be tough for him.

2:22pm

2:11pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Armitage93 says

"2:09pm

Money is the short answer. Players - even free agents - are asking for much, much, much too much in wages nowadays, which is why a lot of them are still free agents."

*cough cough Chris Eagles, Zat Knight, Tyrone Mears cough cough*

2:21pm

 
He has definitely been a good signing for them.

2:10pm

I've spoken about this with Dougie Freedman recently - and he thinks a lot of players are being badly advised by how much money they can earn.

Go and play some football, would be my advice. 

2:09pm

Money is the short answer. Players - even free agents - are asking for much, much, much too much in wages nowadays, which is why a lot of them are still free agents.

2:09pm

2:00pm

I'd suggest one is Burnley. No smoke without fire and all that. West Ham would be an interesting one - Sam does like his players with a touch of Bolton about them...

1:59pm

1:59pm

Are you watching Newsquest? The people have spoken.

1:58pm

1:49pm

Another good read from David J - keeping me awake at the moment folks!

1:49pm

1:40pm Mon 1 Sep 14

David_J says

Ideally I don't want to sell Mark Davies but if we can bring some good replacements in with some of the cash (the manager has to sell before he buys and won't get all the money - lets not kid ourselves) then it could be a move worth making. He is injury prone after all but on the other hand he is one of the only quality players we have. Its a fine line and it could work out or not but sometimes you have to take the risk. The replacements must also be proven at this level and Glen Murray would be the pick of the crop for me.

On the Dougie debate, if we were going to sack him why didn't we do it last season? It would be stupid to sack him after 4 games - we can't afford it and there's no guarantee of success by bringing someone else in. This year it is his team but in previous years he has been fighting finances and player egos so this is the first year he can be judged in my view. But he needs time - at least until mid October. I just wish the fans would back him and the players. Some of our fans are terrible and don't realise they are destroying their own club by openly criticizing and booing during games.

Do we really want another Gary Megson situation? It's getting that way. Come on BW fans get behind the team and players and give them a chance!

1:49pm

1:48pm

Checked in with Wanderers and no further news to report. Time for a Mexican wave perhaps?

1:35pm

Fulham in talks to sign Matt Smith from Leeds. Blimey.

1:31pm

 
No way I can predict that. Should know if and when they actually happen, though.

1:30pm

1:27pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Armitage93 says

We may still sign players on loan if we sell Davies. These 2 loans have been talked up for weeks, the difference is however, if we did sign them today, we have them for the season.... Not just something like 3 months then have to re extend in January.

1:30pm

BBC also reporting that Burnley have made a £2m bid for Richard Dunne. This is turning into a Turf Moor timeline!

1:29pm

The Bolton News: GET IN: Young Jay Rodriguez can’t hide his delight after scoring on the stroke of half time

Independent reporting that Spurs have made an improved bid for Southampton's Jay Rodriguez. Burnley have a sell-on fee in his contract, apparently, so may be distantly connected with BWFC.

1:26pm

He's not one of the more talkative Bolton players - but never told me he does.

1:26pm

1:23pm

1:22pm

My own gut feeling is that it would allow DF to move quicker on the two players he wants.

1:19pm

General consensus seems to be if - and that's a big IF - someone comes in for Daves at £3m that supporters would accept the sale, so long as it is reinvested.

1:18pm

Some lunchtime reading there from two of our regulars. 

1:18pm

1:00pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Armitage93 says

Morning from St Pete Marc!

Firstly credit where its due; given our torrid finances, you still stick with this blog which is a fantastic read year on year.

Firstly, Mark Davies is one player I would not like to sell. His injury record has been atrocious, but he is the one player we have who I truly believe has the bit about him to unlock a defence, make a good run or cutting edge pass, and open teams up. That goal against Huddersfield away under Coyle epitomises it. Here is a link for anyone wanting to remind themselves of his raw ability: https://www.youtube.
com/watch?v=43u8WEXW
NlE

Players like him, in this inflated market, are almost impossible to find. Look at Norwich for example, Hoolahan is older, and in my opinion, not as good as Davies, but yet was valued at 8m. Creative players with an eye for goal are absolutely impossible to find, especially for a club like us. We should be looking to keep him fit and keep him, although if Dougie has a trick like a player out of Ibe's mould, then definitely, consider an offer.

On another point, after digesting the Leeds game, I will now be contrary to popular opinion and AGREE that we should keep Freedman. We all know what the problems were against Boro, Forest etc. Against Leeds those were addressed, we absolutely battered them, and how them chances didn't go in, I don't know. It annoys me he didn't play Beckford or Feeney, but tactically, there must be a reason. If we got a new manager, we would want a performance like that, and so punishing him, for his strikers lack of cutting edge, when tactically, he battered Leeds, would be unfair. This is his team, yes, however demanding success is like asking Farah to go and win the 5000m without shoes on. Its the same concept, Freedman has no money, whereas other clubs are splashing cash like its deadline day every single day!

Sorry for the essay, hope your moods are lifted fellow fans, that win is coming. Hold comfort from the fact we battered Leeds, and Mason **** right should have scored,

1:17pm

1:15pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Rowboti04 says

The key with this Davies deal (if it happens), is:

1) Get it done quickly. Firstly so we have enough time to spend our money and secondly before Eddie or Phil ask for it back between the end of this window and the beginning of the loan window, which we know WILL happen.

2) We need to make whatever money we get from him into 3 players that work with the team.

Mark Davies is our best player, but he isn't worth potentially 3 players in key areas. Dougie needs to be canny with the players he brings in if Daveis goes. For me, I'd want a left winger, a central midfielder - one that is comfortable on the ball and dictates the game - and a striker.

Freedman needs to decide which way he is going to play the team now. Is he going to play the way he SAID he would play, or the way that we are playing at the moment. Because those two are polar opposites. He said he wants to play 'through the midfield' and so far, we have done nothing but that. Thats why a midfielder that can dictate the game is imperative. As it happens, Bolton own 3 midfielders like that - Josh Vela, Stuart Holden and Keith Andrews - all unavailable for the forseeable.

Personally, I would play 5 in midfield and sacrifice a striker (Craig Davies). We need to get the ball and keep it for a change, instead of pumping it up to Davies and hoping for flick-ons, knock downs and lucky bounces. Yes, I'd play Mason up top on his own. His less physical nature shouldn't matter if we can get the ball down in midfield and build pressure.

1:17pm

Small break there to sort lunch out for me and my two lads - who have been good as gold as I plough through this blog.

12:51pm

Mark Davies tale is on the main BN site now. Here's a link.

12:49pm

A lot of frustrated fans out there for sure today. Can't print most of the messages I'm getting - but will try to keep a steady flow of the more sensible and constructive stuff as the day goes on...

12:48pm

12:32pm Mon 1 Sep 14

trottersfan says

But Freedman is the manager, but he can't manage his players. He doesn't get the best out of them, he changes his line-ups and tactics regularly so they don't know where they are up to.

And I just wish they would take time out from "training" and instead do some "practising" shooting at goal - between the posts and under the bar. It's no good all this fitness work if you can't get goals in the end.

12:47pm

12:23pm Mon 1 Sep 14

BWFC1988 says

Transfer deadline day, or as us Bolton fans call it, Monday.

12:45pm

Bournemouth sign another £1m player in Norwich midfielder Andrew Surman.

12:38pm

The Bolton News:

NEWS: Just heard from a good source that a couple of Premier League clubs have made enquiries about Mark Davies.

A couple of calls is all it is at this stage... but who knows??

12:35pm

OK... Prepare to hear something interesting...

12:33pm

Colleagues in South Wales reporting that Swansea close to signing Tottenham's Kyle Naughton.

12:29pm

#jimwhiteday trending on Twitter - THAT'S what is wrong with the world.

12:22pm

 
I think, in fairness, it comes out of a very different pot and is supplemented by a lot of grants etc. 

12:20pm

Derby have signed German central midfielder Tom Koblenz.

12:13pm

Will add that pretty much the whole Championship want Glenn Murray. Wanderers denied a story a few weeks ago that said he was coming in on loan, but certainly ticks a lot of boxes.

12:10pm

Leroy Lita... that brings back memories.

12:10pm

12:10pm

12:10pm

The Bolton News: Glenn Murray

Can think of a Palace striker that Freedman would really like to sign. 

12:09pm

The Bolton News: Kevin Doyle

Kevin Doyle going to Palace from Wolves... Hmm.

 

11:57am

 
Sounds like an old story. DF was interested when he went to Reading from Crawley as I remember...

11:55am

11:40am Mon 1 Sep 14

paul emmy says

Not a big fan of douglas however gartside has made his job virtually impossible no investment from the club told to slash the wage bill and not a word from our chairman , this leaves douglas to stand alone and try to explain where the club is financially and why he cant buy the players we need , its now time for the man preceding over this shambles to wake up come out and explian what the short and long term plan is instead of hiding behind douglas and letting him take all the flack for what is really his fault.

An honest view from the terraces here...

11:53am

 
Caption competition??

11:45am

The Bolton News: INJURED Keeper Keith Branagan is carried off

While all this transfer nonsense is going on, why not take a look at some more nonsense, written by our mysterious resident columnist, The Wonderer...

This week he (or she) tackles Wanderers' one cap wonders.

11:42am

Chungy linked with all sorts of clubs again this window. Oddly enough, Hull City were one of the main ones. They have just sold off George Boyd... who knows??

11:41am

11:41am

11:40am

Not to mention an anagram for Macron noses...

11:40am

11:38am

The Bolton News: Hull have announced George Boyd will challenge his misconduct charge

Burnley are thought to have equalled their club record with the £3m signing of George Boyd.

11:36am

Wanderers have said nothing publically - but none of the people I speak to at the club know anything about the deal.

Agent talk and nothing more, I'd suggest.

11:35am

11:30am

Just had contact with sources at Burnley - and aside from George Boyd being in at Turf Moor, they aren't expecting to do any business. Well that provided seven minutes of excitement...

11:24am

The Bolton News: Josh Vela and Mark Davies before yeaterday's friendly at the County Ground, Leyland

The Mark Davies to Burnley rumour is still doing the rounds. Still blank faces at Wanderers but a scrap of hope perhaps that today won't be a complete wash out??

11:22am

 
I have just made myself a brew. Too hot to sip yet...

11:18am

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11:09am

11:03am Mon 1 Sep 14

trottersfan says

I wonder what is the point of getting new players in. DF can't handle his players anyway. We only have to look at who he has brought in and they haven't helped, and he has ruined those we already had.

I'd play devil's advocate at this point and say the loan deals he has brought in have been good. Agree completely that the squad in underperforming at the moment, though.

11:08am

10:58am Mon 1 Sep 14

christong says

I remember Gregorz Raziak replacing Anelka being a particularly low point for me!!!!

11:08am

Colchester United have sacked their manager Joe Dunne. Two in an hour!

11:07am

Middlesbrough have signed Dutch winger Yanic Wildschut from Heerenveen.  
 

10:56am

10:56am

10:56am

The Bolton News: Watford sign Manchester United midfielder Tom Cleverley on loan. Picture: Action Images

Everton and Aston Villa in for Ton Cleverley, report a few sources.

10:54am

The Bolton News: Danny Gabbidon. PICTURES BY KEITH GILLARD.

Danny Gabbidon heading back to Cardiff City as a player-coach. Was linked a few times with Wanderers in the summer.

10:51am

10:50am

Weirdly enough, it doesn't matter. There's always something to talk about. 

10:50am

10:45am

Now now...

10:45am

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10:45am

10:44am

I've put the question out on Twitter for you Ian. Let's see what the huddled masses think...

10:42am

10:30am Mon 1 Sep 14

Rowboti04 says

Out of interest. What has been our best ever transfer deadline day in terms of numbers and quality?

I can't really remember a particularly exciting one for Bolton.

10:42am

10:41am

Approaching the two-hour mark in my Blog and considering another cup of tea.

10:35am

 
Come back to me at 5/6pm and you might have a deal.

10:34am

 
I own neither. 

10:33am

10:30am

10:29am

10:28am

 
Then I'm going for him. He was great in Lethal Weapon and Point Break.

10:25am

 
Ha! Haven't been watching it. Is Gary Busey still in? 

10:22am

Carlisle manager Graham Kavanagh has been sacked. Not a transfer story, but news nonetheless.

10:21am

For £3million each I'd be tempted. The club certainly would.

And, yes, Freedman would be on to his targets in a flash. No question in my mind about that at all.

10:20am

10:19am Mon 1 Sep 14

Rowboti04 says

Lets paint a scenario here:

Someone comes in for Mark Davies/Chung Yong Lee/Adam Bogdan for, lets say 3million quid. What would you do? Are Bolton even in a position to turn down offer like that and if we do sell someone, does DF have players in mind to bring in within hours?

10:20am

Leicester in advanced talks to sign Ipswich striker David McGoldrick for £7million. Prices really have gone nuts, haven't they?

10:16am

Aside from Falcao's daughter being spotted driving up Chorley New Road, we haven't seen many celebrity sightings in Bolton yet. Shame.

10:15am

I'm a seasoned veteran at this - I blog 12-hour shifts in my sleep.

10:14am

10:14am

Not strictly transfer news but sources at Leeds claim Oscar Garcia is the number one choice to succeed Dave Hockaday. The ex-Brighton coach has just left Maccabi Tel Aviv.

10:12am

James Ducker, the Times journalist, believes United have agreed a loan deal. Personal terms to be done yet. Crikey.

10:09am

Confirmation of that United story now - although talks are "complicated" accirding to the club. Big deal if it gets done.

10:08am

The Bolton News: James McArthur hit the post for Wigan

Another titbit from The Sun - Crystal Palace making a £5million-plus move for James McArthur of Wigan.  

10:07am

Radamel Falcao seems to be the name on everyone's lips in the national papers. The Sun claiming the Colombia striker is close to signing for Manchester United.

10:06am

Most clubs outside the Premier League are concentrating on that, rather than tonight's 11pm deadline.

10:05am

The emergency loan window does make a bit of a mockery of all these last-minute sales.

10:05am

Correction to something I wrote yesterday - the loan window opens in one week, not a fortnight. Although any business Wanderers do is likely to wait that long.

9:46am

 
I think the theory is tnat a different type of player becomes available then. There is no cash for signings, and those sent out on loan in the window tend to be for the whole season, and still cost a lot.

9:45am

The Bolton News: ON HIS WAY? Danny Graham could join Hull City

Interesting to see both Nick Powell and Danny Graham (pictured) being bandied around a lot of Championship clubs. Freedman rates them both.

9:39am

Could certainly use a few of his type. But Kev enjoying himself at Preston.

9:39am

9:38am Mon 1 Sep 14

Neilbwfc says

Wouldn't mind seeing super kev back with us. He could do a decent job in midfield he's not afraid to get stuck in. Type of player we need at the moment.

9:39am

I'll give her agent a ring!

9:38am

9:38am

The Bolton News: Picture: Action Images

Ex-Wanderers target Nathaniel Chalobah looks like going to Burnley in a permanent deal. 

9:30am

First Championship deal of the day done - Louis Thompson from Swindon to Norwich for £600k. He will also be loaned back.

9:29am

In other local Championship news, I read that Blackpool have two cash bids in for players today, so do Wigan, Blackburn got most of their business done after signing Shane Duffy.

 

9:26am

Great tweet from ex-Wanderers skipper Kevin Davies...

Well looks like I'm going to be part of this deadline day scramble.... Off to buy a 1600 watt Vacuum for the Mrs!!!!

Kevin Davies

9:25am

You can never tell. Haven't heard of anything as of late last night. Will continue to check in throughout the day. 

9:24am

9:24am

The Bolton News:

They are bitesized Shredded Wheat, in case you were wondering...

9:15am

Don't want to fall into that trap too much. We've been waiting for this so-called interest to turn into a bid for how long now? 

9:14am

9:14am

I might give him a ring in a bit and ask him to confirm/deny...

9:13am

9:13am

The Davies to Burnley line has been doing the rounds for quite some time. Wanderers have no idea where it came from - but I never rule anything out on transfer deadline day!

9:12am

I can only think of one small hitch in that plan...

9:11am

The Bolton News: NO INJURY SETBACK: Mark Davies was rested for Cardiff City tie

GOSSIP ALERT: The Daily Mail claim Mark Davies is heading for Burnley now that he has returned to fitness...

9:09am

The Bolton News: Bolton Wanderers manager Dougie Freedman

I don't think there will be much to discuss - I asked Dougie Freedman if Saturday's defeat at Leeds had changed anything on the transfer front. Here was his response...

9:03am

I think this is my sixth or seventh online marathon, and I don't think I've ever gone into one with as much doubt that anything is going to happen for Wanderers. 

9:03am

Good morning folks and welcome to another transfer deadline day blog.

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9:38am Mon 1 Sep 14

Neilbwfc says...

Wouldn't mind seeing super kev back with us. He could do a decent job in midfield he's not afraid to get stuck in. Type of player we need at the moment.
Wouldn't mind seeing super kev back with us. He could do a decent job in midfield he's not afraid to get stuck in. Type of player we need at the moment. Neilbwfc
  • Score: 5

10:00am Mon 1 Sep 14

trottersfan says...

Just wish someone would come in for Freedman and we could get him transferred!
Just wish someone would come in for Freedman and we could get him transferred! trottersfan
  • Score: 5

10:19am Mon 1 Sep 14

Rowboti04 says...

Lets paint a scenario here:

Someone comes in for Mark Davies/Chung Yong Lee/Adam Bogdan for, lets say 3million quid. What would you do? Are Bolton even in a position to turn down offer like that and if we do sell someone, does DF have players in mind to bring in within hours?
Lets paint a scenario here: Someone comes in for Mark Davies/Chung Yong Lee/Adam Bogdan for, lets say 3million quid. What would you do? Are Bolton even in a position to turn down offer like that and if we do sell someone, does DF have players in mind to bring in within hours? Rowboti04
  • Score: 0

10:30am Mon 1 Sep 14

Rowboti04 says...

Out of interest. What has been our best ever transfer deadline day in terms of numbers and quality?

I can't really remember a particularly exciting one for Bolton.
Out of interest. What has been our best ever transfer deadline day in terms of numbers and quality? I can't really remember a particularly exciting one for Bolton. Rowboti04
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10:58am Mon 1 Sep 14

christong says...

I remember Gregorz Raziak replacing Anelka being a particularly low point for me!!!!
I remember Gregorz Raziak replacing Anelka being a particularly low point for me!!!! christong
  • Score: 2

11:03am Mon 1 Sep 14

trottersfan says...

I wonder what is the point of getting new players in. DF can't handle his players anyway. We only have to look at who he has brought in and they haven't helped, and he has ruined those we already had.
I wonder what is the point of getting new players in. DF can't handle his players anyway. We only have to look at who he has brought in and they haven't helped, and he has ruined those we already had. trottersfan
  • Score: 2

11:40am Mon 1 Sep 14

paul emmy says...

Not a big fan of douglas however gartside has made his job virtually impossible no investment from the club told to slash the wage bill and not a word from our chairman , this leaves douglas to stand alone and try to explain where the club is financially and why he cant buy the players we need , its now time for the man preceding over this shambles to wake up come out and explian what the short and long term plan is instead of hiding behind douglas and letting him take all the flack for what is really his fault.
Not a big fan of douglas however gartside has made his job virtually impossible no investment from the club told to slash the wage bill and not a word from our chairman , this leaves douglas to stand alone and try to explain where the club is financially and why he cant buy the players we need , its now time for the man preceding over this shambles to wake up come out and explian what the short and long term plan is instead of hiding behind douglas and letting him take all the flack for what is really his fault. paul emmy
  • Score: 4

12:23pm Mon 1 Sep 14

BWFC1988 says...

Transfer deadline day, or as us Bolton fans call it, Monday.
Transfer deadline day, or as us Bolton fans call it, Monday. BWFC1988
  • Score: 6

12:26pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Neilbwfc says...

Does anybody actually give a toss about what's happening elsewhere in the championship. Might as well close this down now and start again when the loan window opens and all the dross are available. Who knows Chris eagles might be available unless he's already been snapped up by some 3rd division side in Kuwait.
Does anybody actually give a toss about what's happening elsewhere in the championship. Might as well close this down now and start again when the loan window opens and all the dross are available. Who knows Chris eagles might be available unless he's already been snapped up by some 3rd division side in Kuwait. Neilbwfc
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12:32pm Mon 1 Sep 14

trottersfan says...

But Freedman is the manager, but he can't manage his players. He doesn't get the best out of them, he changes his line-ups and tactics regularly so they don't know where they are up to.

And I just wish they would take time out from "training" and instead do some "practising" shooting at goal - between the posts and under the bar. It's no good all this fitness work if you can't get goals in the end.
But Freedman is the manager, but he can't manage his players. He doesn't get the best out of them, he changes his line-ups and tactics regularly so they don't know where they are up to. And I just wish they would take time out from "training" and instead do some "practising" shooting at goal - between the posts and under the bar. It's no good all this fitness work if you can't get goals in the end. trottersfan
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12:36pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Reality50 says...

Only OUT i want o see today is Freedman,hopefully to the job centre.
Only OUT i want o see today is Freedman,hopefully to the job centre. Reality50
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1:00pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Armitage93 says...

Morning from St Pete Marc!

Firstly credit where its due; given our torrid finances, you still stick with this blog which is a fantastic read year on year.

Firstly, Mark Davies is one player I would not like to sell. His injury record has been atrocious, but he is the one player we have who I truly believe has the bit about him to unlock a defence, make a good run or cutting edge pass, and open teams up. That goal against Huddersfield away under Coyle epitomises it. Here is a link for anyone wanting to remind themselves of his raw ability: https://www.youtube.
com/watch?v=43u8WEXW
NlE

Players like him, in this inflated market, are almost impossible to find. Look at Norwich for example, Hoolahan is older, and in my opinion, not as good as Davies, but yet was valued at 8m. Creative players with an eye for goal are absolutely impossible to find, especially for a club like us. We should be looking to keep him fit and keep him, although if Dougie has a trick like a player out of Ibe's mould, then definitely, consider an offer.

On another point, after digesting the Leeds game, I will now be contrary to popular opinion and AGREE that we should keep Freedman. We all know what the problems were against Boro, Forest etc. Against Leeds those were addressed, we absolutely battered them, and how them chances didn't go in, I don't know. It annoys me he didn't play Beckford or Feeney, but tactically, there must be a reason. If we got a new manager, we would want a performance like that, and so punishing him, for his strikers lack of cutting edge, when tactically, he battered Leeds, would be unfair. This is his team, yes, however demanding success is like asking Farah to go and win the 5000m without shoes on. Its the same concept, Freedman has no money, whereas other clubs are splashing cash like its deadline day every single day!

Sorry for the essay, hope your moods are lifted fellow fans, that win is coming. Hold comfort from the fact we battered Leeds, and Mason **** right should have scored,
Morning from St Pete Marc! Firstly credit where its due; given our torrid finances, you still stick with this blog which is a fantastic read year on year. Firstly, Mark Davies is one player I would not like to sell. His injury record has been atrocious, but he is the one player we have who I truly believe has the bit about him to unlock a defence, make a good run or cutting edge pass, and open teams up. That goal against Huddersfield away under Coyle epitomises it. Here is a link for anyone wanting to remind themselves of his raw ability: https://www.youtube. com/watch?v=43u8WEXW NlE Players like him, in this inflated market, are almost impossible to find. Look at Norwich for example, Hoolahan is older, and in my opinion, not as good as Davies, but yet was valued at 8m. Creative players with an eye for goal are absolutely impossible to find, especially for a club like us. We should be looking to keep him fit and keep him, although if Dougie has a trick like a player out of Ibe's mould, then definitely, consider an offer. On another point, after digesting the Leeds game, I will now be contrary to popular opinion and AGREE that we should keep Freedman. We all know what the problems were against Boro, Forest etc. Against Leeds those were addressed, we absolutely battered them, and how them chances didn't go in, I don't know. It annoys me he didn't play Beckford or Feeney, but tactically, there must be a reason. If we got a new manager, we would want a performance like that, and so punishing him, for his strikers lack of cutting edge, when tactically, he battered Leeds, would be unfair. This is his team, yes, however demanding success is like asking Farah to go and win the 5000m without shoes on. Its the same concept, Freedman has no money, whereas other clubs are splashing cash like its deadline day every single day! Sorry for the essay, hope your moods are lifted fellow fans, that win is coming. Hold comfort from the fact we battered Leeds, and Mason **** right should have scored, Armitage93
  • Score: 3

1:02pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Armitage93 says...

I don't know why it starred our what I said at the end! It's also refreshing our club isn't being associated with a hiring and firing philosophy. It is something we can be proud of. Calling for his head, in my opinion, won't get us anywhere. People might not like to hear it, but it won't. Given that last performance we need to be shouting from the terraces to encourage more of the same.

Regardless, lets see how this Davies thing turns, because if it does happen, we could be seeing a few players through that door. Bet it feels like Christmas for Dougie, like a kid in a toy shop.... So many possibilities!
I don't know why it starred our what I said at the end! It's also refreshing our club isn't being associated with a hiring and firing philosophy. It is something we can be proud of. Calling for his head, in my opinion, won't get us anywhere. People might not like to hear it, but it won't. Given that last performance we need to be shouting from the terraces to encourage more of the same. Regardless, lets see how this Davies thing turns, because if it does happen, we could be seeing a few players through that door. Bet it feels like Christmas for Dougie, like a kid in a toy shop.... So many possibilities! Armitage93
  • Score: 0

1:15pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Rowboti04 says...

The key with this Davies deal (if it happens), is:

1) Get it done quickly. Firstly so we have enough time to spend our money and secondly before Eddie or Phil ask for it back between the end of this window and the beginning of the loan window, which we know WILL happen.

2) We need to make whatever money we get from him into 3 players that work with the team.

Mark Davies is our best player, but he isn't worth potentially 3 players in key areas. Dougie needs to be canny with the players he brings in if Daveis goes. For me, I'd want a left winger, a central midfielder - one that is comfortable on the ball and dictates the game - and a striker.

Freedman needs to decide which way he is going to play the team now. Is he going to play the way he SAID he would play, or the way that we are playing at the moment. Because those two are polar opposites. He said he wants to play 'through the midfield' and so far, we have done nothing but that. Thats why a midfielder that can dictate the game is imperative. As it happens, Bolton own 3 midfielders like that - Josh Vela, Stuart Holden and Keith Andrews - all unavailable for the forseeable.

Personally, I would play 5 in midfield and sacrifice a striker (Craig Davies). We need to get the ball and keep it for a change, instead of pumping it up to Davies and hoping for flick-ons, knock downs and lucky bounces. Yes, I'd play Mason up top on his own. His less physical nature shouldn't matter if we can get the ball down in midfield and build pressure.
The key with this Davies deal (if it happens), is: 1) Get it done quickly. Firstly so we have enough time to spend our money and secondly before Eddie or Phil ask for it back between the end of this window and the beginning of the loan window, which we know WILL happen. 2) We need to make whatever money we get from him into 3 players that work with the team. Mark Davies is our best player, but he isn't worth potentially 3 players in key areas. Dougie needs to be canny with the players he brings in if Daveis goes. For me, I'd want a left winger, a central midfielder - one that is comfortable on the ball and dictates the game - and a striker. Freedman needs to decide which way he is going to play the team now. Is he going to play the way he SAID he would play, or the way that we are playing at the moment. Because those two are polar opposites. He said he wants to play 'through the midfield' and so far, we have done nothing but that. Thats why a midfielder that can dictate the game is imperative. As it happens, Bolton own 3 midfielders like that - Josh Vela, Stuart Holden and Keith Andrews - all unavailable for the forseeable. Personally, I would play 5 in midfield and sacrifice a striker (Craig Davies). We need to get the ball and keep it for a change, instead of pumping it up to Davies and hoping for flick-ons, knock downs and lucky bounces. Yes, I'd play Mason up top on his own. His less physical nature shouldn't matter if we can get the ball down in midfield and build pressure. Rowboti04
  • Score: 0

1:27pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Armitage93 says...

We may still sign players on loan if we sell Davies. These 2 loans have been talked up for weeks, the difference is however, if we did sign them today, we have them for the season.... Not just something like 3 months then have to re extend in January.
We may still sign players on loan if we sell Davies. These 2 loans have been talked up for weeks, the difference is however, if we did sign them today, we have them for the season.... Not just something like 3 months then have to re extend in January. Armitage93
  • Score: 0

1:40pm Mon 1 Sep 14

David_J says...

Ideally I don't want to sell Mark Davies but if we can bring some good replacements in with some of the cash (the manager has to sell before he buys and won't get all the money - lets not kid ourselves) then it could be a move worth making. He is injury prone after all but on the other hand he is one of the only quality players we have. Its a fine line and it could work out or not but sometimes you have to take the risk. The replacements must also be proven at this level and Glen Murray would be the pick of the crop for me.

On the Dougie debate, if we were going to sack him why didn't we do it last season? It would be stupid to sack him after 4 games - we can't afford it and there's no guarantee of success by bringing someone else in. This year it is his team but in previous years he has been fighting finances and player egos so this is the first year he can be judged in my view. But he needs time - at least until mid October. I just wish the fans would back him and the players. Some of our fans are terrible and don't realise they are destroying their own club by openly criticizing and booing during games.

Do we really want another Gary Megson situation? It's getting that way. Come on BW fans get behind the team and players and give them a chance!
Ideally I don't want to sell Mark Davies but if we can bring some good replacements in with some of the cash (the manager has to sell before he buys and won't get all the money - lets not kid ourselves) then it could be a move worth making. He is injury prone after all but on the other hand he is one of the only quality players we have. Its a fine line and it could work out or not but sometimes you have to take the risk. The replacements must also be proven at this level and Glen Murray would be the pick of the crop for me. On the Dougie debate, if we were going to sack him why didn't we do it last season? It would be stupid to sack him after 4 games - we can't afford it and there's no guarantee of success by bringing someone else in. This year it is his team but in previous years he has been fighting finances and player egos so this is the first year he can be judged in my view. But he needs time - at least until mid October. I just wish the fans would back him and the players. Some of our fans are terrible and don't realise they are destroying their own club by openly criticizing and booing during games. Do we really want another Gary Megson situation? It's getting that way. Come on BW fans get behind the team and players and give them a chance! David_J
  • Score: -2

1:49pm Mon 1 Sep 14

J J J J says...

Have to say I was expecting nothing from our club and things from the big clubs like United who are on the verge of sealing a real goalscorer in falcao on loan, if only we had that kind of funds haha, turning out to be an interesting day afterall
Have to say I was expecting nothing from our club and things from the big clubs like United who are on the verge of sealing a real goalscorer in falcao on loan, if only we had that kind of funds haha, turning out to be an interesting day afterall J J J J
  • Score: 0

1:57pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Armitage93 says...

In fairness, its been hard for the most patient of us, giving some of the performances served up this season. We have been outplayed, outfought and battered in a lot of games, especially with chances created and possession.

However last game, and in parts against Crewe, we seemed to be knocking it about a bit more, creating chances, and for that we can't sack the manager. Mason had that guilt edged opportunity, Beckford missed from 2 yards, and the keeper somehow landed on a bouncing ball that was going into the net! You can't write that stuff, and if we do that against Sheffield Wednesday we will get something.

If we managed to get money for Davies, then take it. Dougie has arguably been the best manager we have had in years in regards to transfers. He always pulls out that ace card, Dawson one year, Juke and Mason the next. He makes tough decisions none of us would have taken (Sordell out, Moritz in), in order to secure the long term future he wants with the players he wants. For that reason, I do think we should sell, if we get a good offer. If we can bring in 1 or 2 and still have a few million left over, that is fantastic business, and for once, exciting!

The real question is, Marc, have you heard anything more?
In fairness, its been hard for the most patient of us, giving some of the performances served up this season. We have been outplayed, outfought and battered in a lot of games, especially with chances created and possession. However last game, and in parts against Crewe, we seemed to be knocking it about a bit more, creating chances, and for that we can't sack the manager. Mason had that guilt edged opportunity, Beckford missed from 2 yards, and the keeper somehow landed on a bouncing ball that was going into the net! You can't write that stuff, and if we do that against Sheffield Wednesday we will get something. If we managed to get money for Davies, then take it. Dougie has arguably been the best manager we have had in years in regards to transfers. He always pulls out that ace card, Dawson one year, Juke and Mason the next. He makes tough decisions none of us would have taken (Sordell out, Moritz in), in order to secure the long term future he wants with the players he wants. For that reason, I do think we should sell, if we get a good offer. If we can bring in 1 or 2 and still have a few million left over, that is fantastic business, and for once, exciting! The real question is, Marc, have you heard anything more? Armitage93
  • Score: -6

1:57pm Mon 1 Sep 14

christong says...

Any idea when Stuart Holden is coming back?
Any idea when Stuart Holden is coming back? christong
  • Score: 0

2:04pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Armitage93 says...

Modou Barrow has signed for Swansea. Another case of, Freedman spotting players with talent, not being given the little cash to splash with a view to making a larger sum in the future. Got to be tough for him.
Modou Barrow has signed for Swansea. Another case of, Freedman spotting players with talent, not being given the little cash to splash with a view to making a larger sum in the future. Got to be tough for him. Armitage93
  • Score: 0

2:11pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Armitage93 says...

"2:09pm

Money is the short answer. Players - even free agents - are asking for much, much, much too much in wages nowadays, which is why a lot of them are still free agents."

*cough cough Chris Eagles, Zat Knight, Tyrone Mears cough cough*
"2:09pm Money is the short answer. Players - even free agents - are asking for much, much, much too much in wages nowadays, which is why a lot of them are still free agents." *cough cough Chris Eagles, Zat Knight, Tyrone Mears cough cough* Armitage93
  • Score: 2

2:28pm Mon 1 Sep 14

JustaBloke2000 says...

Andrew Johnson hasn't been a prolific goalscorer since 2006 and he's now 33. I don't think it's a case of not being able to afford him, I think he'd be a waste of money no matter what he'd be asking for.
Andrew Johnson hasn't been a prolific goalscorer since 2006 and he's now 33. I don't think it's a case of not being able to afford him, I think he'd be a waste of money no matter what he'd be asking for. JustaBloke2000
  • Score: 2

2:32pm Mon 1 Sep 14

J_BWFC says...

Did we get any funds from the Sordell transfer ?
Did we get any funds from the Sordell transfer ? J_BWFC
  • Score: -1

2:32pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Armitage93 says...

Are there any signs of action at the club Marc? In regards to Davies or the loans incoming etc, any escalated movements whatsoever?
Are there any signs of action at the club Marc? In regards to Davies or the loans incoming etc, any escalated movements whatsoever? Armitage93
  • Score: 0

2:56pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Rowboti04 says...

Marc,

Do you have an update on injuries?

Mark Davies, Josh Vela and Stuart Holden?

I think all these three can play a vital role this season, including Holden.
Marc, Do you have an update on injuries? Mark Davies, Josh Vela and Stuart Holden? I think all these three can play a vital role this season, including Holden. Rowboti04
  • Score: 0

3:01pm Mon 1 Sep 14

J J J J says...

If and only IF Mark Davies leaves (im hoping nothing comes of it but with the club needing the funds its understandable) I would be happy to see someone like Nick Powell from United always had a spark at Wigan and United paid a pretty penny for him too, Could do a job for us even if it is a loan.
If and only IF Mark Davies leaves (im hoping nothing comes of it but with the club needing the funds its understandable) I would be happy to see someone like Nick Powell from United always had a spark at Wigan and United paid a pretty penny for him too, Could do a job for us even if it is a loan. J J J J
  • Score: 0

3:13pm Mon 1 Sep 14

chrisatty says...

Just having a look at our current squad and we have 40 players available to play for the first team. Is it just me or is that a lot of wages to pay seeing as the club keeps telling us we have no money? Wouldn't it be worth getting rid of a bunch of those players and then replace them with a couple of quality signings?
Just having a look at our current squad and we have 40 players available to play for the first team. Is it just me or is that a lot of wages to pay seeing as the club keeps telling us we have no money? Wouldn't it be worth getting rid of a bunch of those players and then replace them with a couple of quality signings? chrisatty
  • Score: 2

3:14pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Armitage93 says...

Have the club had any more conversations with anyone regarding exits? Most notably, Mark Davies?
Have the club had any more conversations with anyone regarding exits? Most notably, Mark Davies? Armitage93
  • Score: 0

3:21pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Jamster26 says...

Jamster26

Any news at all, Marc?
Jamster26 Any news at all, Marc? Jamster26
  • Score: 0

3:23pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Jamster26 says...

Marc, does Dougie has any money to spend? Or do we really need to sell before we can do any business at all?

Anything at all to report in relation to transfers? It is too quiet!
Marc, does Dougie has any money to spend? Or do we really need to sell before we can do any business at all? Anything at all to report in relation to transfers? It is too quiet! Jamster26
  • Score: 0

3:27pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Armitage93 says...

You've gone quiet Marc, you've got news haven't you!
You've gone quiet Marc, you've got news haven't you! Armitage93
  • Score: 0

3:35pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Armitage93 says...

Part of me feels Villa wanted Davies but have gone for Canales. Prove me wrong please!
Part of me feels Villa wanted Davies but have gone for Canales. Prove me wrong please! Armitage93
  • Score: 0

3:35pm Mon 1 Sep 14

J_BWFC says...

Are we not owed a chelsea player on loan from Cahill transfer ?
Are we not owed a chelsea player on loan from Cahill transfer ? J_BWFC
  • Score: 1

3:40pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Townleys says...

Sky Sports News reporter at Crystal Palace just mentioned Bolton Wanderers twice in same update. One was in relation to Glenn Murray. Not sure about the other one. Anyone shed any light? Not that we will end up with either of course.
Sky Sports News reporter at Crystal Palace just mentioned Bolton Wanderers twice in same update. One was in relation to Glenn Murray. Not sure about the other one. Anyone shed any light? Not that we will end up with either of course. Townleys
  • Score: 1

3:40pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Jamster26 says...

Any truth in Garvan coming, Marc?
Any truth in Garvan coming, Marc? Jamster26
  • Score: 0

3:47pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Jamster26 says...

Garvan!? Talk about uninspiring! We need a striker Dougie!
Garvan!? Talk about uninspiring! We need a striker Dougie! Jamster26
  • Score: 0

3:48pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Armitage93 says...

What type of player is Garvan, I know he is a midfielder but is he creative or what? Don't think we need another journeyman, Ream can play in there and can spot a pass.

Could this mean Davies is on his way
What type of player is Garvan, I know he is a midfielder but is he creative or what? Don't think we need another journeyman, Ream can play in there and can spot a pass. Could this mean Davies is on his way Armitage93
  • Score: 0

3:50pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Jamster26 says...

If we do get Garvan, this seems awfully similar to January where, ironically bringing Trotter in, when centre midfield wasn't a position we needed to strengthen.
If we do get Garvan, this seems awfully similar to January where, ironically bringing Trotter in, when centre midfield wasn't a position we needed to strengthen. Jamster26
  • Score: 0

3:54pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Pat1992 says...

Pretty sure landing murray would go a long long way to improving relationships between freedman and fans, i personally think this has been a great transfer window for us some top signings bar a striker. it takes time to jel freedman had done a decent job in the last 3 years hats off to him i think we'd be in league one now had it not been for him personally.
Pretty sure landing murray would go a long long way to improving relationships between freedman and fans, i personally think this has been a great transfer window for us some top signings bar a striker. it takes time to jel freedman had done a decent job in the last 3 years hats off to him i think we'd be in league one now had it not been for him personally. Pat1992
  • Score: -3

3:55pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Armitage93 says...

Don't know if you've seen these Marc but jour no from Croyden has tweeted these:
Mark Ritson @MR_LWMedia · 1h
Owen Garvan leaves here in a taxi. Flight north perhaps? Could be off. #cpfc

Mark Ritson @MR_LWMedia · 1h
Glenn Murray has just left. In his own car. Fans telling him not to leave on the way out. #cpfc
Don't know if you've seen these Marc but jour no from Croyden has tweeted these: Mark Ritson @MR_LWMedia · 1h Owen Garvan leaves here in a taxi. Flight north perhaps? Could be off. #cpfc Mark Ritson @MR_LWMedia · 1h Glenn Murray has just left. In his own car. Fans telling him not to leave on the way out. #cpfc Armitage93
  • Score: 0

3:57pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Armitage93 says...

Can't flipping win! autocorrect on my phone, switch to my macbook and it autocorrects me here!!

Imagine if we get Murray AND Garvan. If we got Murray i'd do cartwheels
Can't flipping win! autocorrect on my phone, switch to my macbook and it autocorrects me here!! Imagine if we get Murray AND Garvan. If we got Murray i'd do cartwheels Armitage93
  • Score: 0

4:00pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Rowboti04 says...

Have you heard anything concrete yet, Marc?

Imagine Garvan might happen, Murray won't and an outgoing...
Have you heard anything concrete yet, Marc? Imagine Garvan might happen, Murray won't and an outgoing... Rowboti04
  • Score: 0

4:00pm Mon 1 Sep 14

trottersfan says...

It's Dead Line day here isn't it. Not deadline.
It's Dead Line day here isn't it. Not deadline. trottersfan
  • Score: 0

4:01pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Jamster26 says...

Murray would be excellent. Make it happen!
Murray would be excellent. Make it happen! Jamster26
  • Score: 0

4:05pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Armitage93 says...

Garvan: 11 goals, 9 assists in 63 games for Palace.

Not bad..
Garvan: 11 goals, 9 assists in 63 games for Palace. Not bad.. Armitage93
  • Score: 0

4:05pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Armitage93 says...

87 games sorry
87 games sorry Armitage93
  • Score: 0

4:10pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Armitage93 says...

Davies closer to the exit door?
Davies closer to the exit door? Armitage93
  • Score: 0

4:13pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Armitage93 says...

Murray off to Reading
Murray off to Reading Armitage93
  • Score: 0

4:15pm Mon 1 Sep 14

petevick says...

According to Nixon, Murray off to Reading
According to Nixon, Murray off to Reading petevick
  • Score: 0

4:27pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Armitage93 says...

Any idea how many clubs have come in for Davies Marc? Doesn't look like it will be Burnley.. Perhaps a West Ham or Swansea?
Any idea how many clubs have come in for Davies Marc? Doesn't look like it will be Burnley.. Perhaps a West Ham or Swansea? Armitage93
  • Score: 0

4:41pm Mon 1 Sep 14

J J J J says...

Can I ask are the club looking for offload davies or would it be a preference to hold onto him if possible, would prefer Powell over Garvan as i feel Powell offers more and United (SAF - Sir Alex Ferguson) saw something special in him to pay the fee they did
Can I ask are the club looking for offload davies or would it be a preference to hold onto him if possible, would prefer Powell over Garvan as i feel Powell offers more and United (SAF - Sir Alex Ferguson) saw something special in him to pay the fee they did J J J J
  • Score: 0

5:03pm Mon 1 Sep 14

J J J J says...

Anything from the club on beckford?
Anything from the club on beckford? J J J J
  • Score: 0

5:17pm Mon 1 Sep 14

chrisatty says...

If Beckford does go to Fulham, do you know if Dougie will have someone in mind to replace him?
If Beckford does go to Fulham, do you know if Dougie will have someone in mind to replace him? chrisatty
  • Score: 0

5:23pm Mon 1 Sep 14

J J J J says...

If Beckford leaves maybe he will try and go for Murray afterall if he hasnt signed somewhere beforehand?
If Beckford leaves maybe he will try and go for Murray afterall if he hasnt signed somewhere beforehand? J J J J
  • Score: 0

5:23pm Mon 1 Sep 14

chrisatty says...

"I think this is a bit of a surprise one. Whether he goes immediately for the striker he had in mind, perhaps..."

Any chance of giving us name? It would surely liven up my day...
"I think this is a bit of a surprise one. Whether he goes immediately for the striker he had in mind, perhaps..." Any chance of giving us name? It would surely liven up my day... chrisatty
  • Score: 0

5:25pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Armitage93 says...

"Sheffield Wednesday have signed Royston Drenthe on loan from Reading. Another surprise one for me."

Think you'll be more surprised when you see him in the flesh Marc... Think he's had one too many pies sitting in the stands! Reading didn't even give him a squad number.

From Real Madrid to Hollands pies and a cold Sheffield. #PrayForDrenthe
"Sheffield Wednesday have signed Royston Drenthe on loan from Reading. Another surprise one for me." Think you'll be more surprised when you see him in the flesh Marc... Think he's had one too many pies sitting in the stands! Reading didn't even give him a squad number. From Real Madrid to Hollands pies and a cold Sheffield. #PrayForDrenthe Armitage93
  • Score: 0

5:45pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Hardy83 says...

We can't afford new players even if we sell gartside will just be lining his own pockets but we have wilkinson and clough, two young strikers that need a chance to show what they can do can't be any worse than current or recently past striker like elmander ngog beckford or C Davies.

Come on dougie give them a CHANCE
We can't afford new players even if we sell gartside will just be lining his own pockets but we have wilkinson and clough, two young strikers that need a chance to show what they can do can't be any worse than current or recently past striker like elmander ngog beckford or C Davies. Come on dougie give them a CHANCE Hardy83
  • Score: 1

6:03pm Mon 1 Sep 14

nickyboy70 says...

breaking news sky say jermain beckford in talks with Fulham who we going to get to replace him.
breaking news sky say jermain beckford in talks with Fulham who we going to get to replace him. nickyboy70
  • Score: 0

6:13pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Armitage93 says...

Nixons teasing us on twitter, 2 incomings tonight perhaps? Cant remember Bolton doing anything on deadline day, Dougie must feel like he's in a sweetshop if Beckford and/or Davies leaves
Nixons teasing us on twitter, 2 incomings tonight perhaps? Cant remember Bolton doing anything on deadline day, Dougie must feel like he's in a sweetshop if Beckford and/or Davies leaves Armitage93
  • Score: 0

6:22pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Townleys says...

Latest on the interweb thingy.

http://footballleagu
eworld.co.uk/bolton-
wanderers-receive-ma
rk-davies-enquiries/
Latest on the interweb thingy. http://footballleagu eworld.co.uk/bolton- wanderers-receive-ma rk-davies-enquiries/ Townleys
  • Score: 0

6:22pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Townleys says...

Latest on the interweb thingy.

http://footballleagu
eworld.co.uk/bolton-
wanderers-receive-ma
rk-davies-enquiries/
Latest on the interweb thingy. http://footballleagu eworld.co.uk/bolton- wanderers-receive-ma rk-davies-enquiries/ Townleys
  • Score: 0

6:22pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Townleys says...

Latest on the interweb thingy.

http://footballleagu
eworld.co.uk/bolton-
wanderers-receive-ma
rk-davies-enquiries/
Latest on the interweb thingy. http://footballleagu eworld.co.uk/bolton- wanderers-receive-ma rk-davies-enquiries/ Townleys
  • Score: 0

6:38pm Mon 1 Sep 14

bw8410 says...

Stop signing Crystal Palace players! Dear lord... once Freedman will leave the club, no decent manager will want to manage us. Freedman will just sign them back once he lands another job most likely at some obscure Scottish club. Freedman WILL go at some point. Just a question of time. The man has accomplished very little since he arrived. If his objective was to lower the overall wage bill, then anyone could have done that, give me the job! Give it to any staff at the ticket office. Stop changing the team around every week! We're not exactly Chelsea with quality and strength in depth! I understand for the sake of fitness, but the only thing that is consistent is the consistent run of inconsistent performances and results under Freedman. He is simply using Bolton to gain experience. No passion. No entertainment value for money. Poor signings. Same post-match interviews every week speaking of 'desire', 'what we are trying to do at this football club', patient approach to scrape a 1-0 win. We are headed to League One.
Stop signing Crystal Palace players! Dear lord... once Freedman will leave the club, no decent manager will want to manage us. Freedman will just sign them back once he lands another job most likely at some obscure Scottish club. Freedman WILL go at some point. Just a question of time. The man has accomplished very little since he arrived. If his objective was to lower the overall wage bill, then anyone could have done that, give me the job! Give it to any staff at the ticket office. Stop changing the team around every week! We're not exactly Chelsea with quality and strength in depth! I understand for the sake of fitness, but the only thing that is consistent is the consistent run of inconsistent performances and results under Freedman. He is simply using Bolton to gain experience. No passion. No entertainment value for money. Poor signings. Same post-match interviews every week speaking of 'desire', 'what we are trying to do at this football club', patient approach to scrape a 1-0 win. We are headed to League One. bw8410
  • Score: 2

6:43pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Allmylife says...

Anyone moving in for Fartside and Freedwoman?

Best bit of business we could expect today!!!
Anyone moving in for Fartside and Freedwoman? Best bit of business we could expect today!!! Allmylife
  • Score: 2

6:49pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Armitage93 says...

They need to do both, they've been playing Mccormack with Dembele(who is tripe). They need 2 strikers, and Rodallega is departing also to Levante
They need to do both, they've been playing Mccormack with Dembele(who is tripe). They need 2 strikers, and Rodallega is departing also to Levante Armitage93
  • Score: 0

7:08pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Armitage93 says...

Honestly Marc... Are we working on an incoming or two for now? Just you can't say because of sensitivity in the deal... Is that why we haven't confirmed Beckford going?
Honestly Marc... Are we working on an incoming or two for now? Just you can't say because of sensitivity in the deal... Is that why we haven't confirmed Beckford going? Armitage93
  • Score: 0

7:19pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Cambridge White says...

Automatic updates aren't working - any suggestions how to fix it please? (yes is obviously ticked)
Automatic updates aren't working - any suggestions how to fix it please? (yes is obviously ticked) Cambridge White
  • Score: 1

7:20pm Mon 1 Sep 14

J J J J says...

Sky Sports understands Crystal Palace striker Glenn Murray is having a medical at Reading ahead of a move to the Madejski Stadium. Target slowly getting away??
Sky Sports understands Crystal Palace striker Glenn Murray is having a medical at Reading ahead of a move to the Madejski Stadium. Target slowly getting away?? J J J J
  • Score: 0

7:24pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Rowboti04 says...

Not sure where Murray is really!

Apparently Neil Ashton (Sky Sports) said he was having medical at Bolton this morning!
Not sure where Murray is really! Apparently Neil Ashton (Sky Sports) said he was having medical at Bolton this morning! Rowboti04
  • Score: 0

7:35pm Mon 1 Sep 14

J J J J says...

I think IF beckford does go we should replace him with a striker, keep in mind he was the club top scorer last season and strikers dont come cheap and they are very limited demand. Dont need garvan unless mark davies leaves and dont think we need halford in all honesty, goals win you games and solid defense which with confidence will come.
I think IF beckford does go we should replace him with a striker, keep in mind he was the club top scorer last season and strikers dont come cheap and they are very limited demand. Dont need garvan unless mark davies leaves and dont think we need halford in all honesty, goals win you games and solid defense which with confidence will come. J J J J
  • Score: 0

7:36pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Armitage93 says...

Is halford seen as a striker or do we have strikers lined up to come in for Beckford leaving
Is halford seen as a striker or do we have strikers lined up to come in for Beckford leaving Armitage93
  • Score: 0

7:43pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Armitage93 says...

What fee is being talked about for Jermaine?
What fee is being talked about for Jermaine? Armitage93
  • Score: 0

7:45pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Rowboti04 says...

If Beckford goes, are we likely to make last ditch bid for this striker?

Got me all excited now.
If Beckford goes, are we likely to make last ditch bid for this striker? Got me all excited now. Rowboti04
  • Score: 0

7:52pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Armitage93 says...

What stage is Beckford at? Fee agreed? Is he on his way to Fulham?
What stage is Beckford at? Fee agreed? Is he on his way to Fulham? Armitage93
  • Score: 0

7:58pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Armitage93 says...

So Beckford goes in the next hour we could see an arrival or two tonight? Promising
So Beckford goes in the next hour we could see an arrival or two tonight? Promising Armitage93
  • Score: 0

8:01pm Mon 1 Sep 14

shadowfax says...

AMATEURISH CLUB....RUN BY AMATEURS WHO WASTED MILLIONS
IF THE CHAIRMAN....EXECUTIV
ES....MANAGER ETC WERE EMPLOYED IN ANY OTHER JOBS....ALL WOULD HAVE BEEN KICKED INTO TOUCH A LONG TIME AGO....ANOTHER POMPEY IS ON THE CARDS
MR DAVIES.....SHOW SOME BACKBONE.....SACK THE LOT....THEN EITHER START AGAIN.....OR SELL THE CLUB...TO SOMEONE WITH A BIT MORE AMBITION AND VISION THAN THE BUNCH OF SELF SERVING LEECHES WHO HAVE RUINED A ONCE GREAT CLUB
AMATEURISH CLUB....RUN BY AMATEURS WHO WASTED MILLIONS IF THE CHAIRMAN....EXECUTIV ES....MANAGER ETC WERE EMPLOYED IN ANY OTHER JOBS....ALL WOULD HAVE BEEN KICKED INTO TOUCH A LONG TIME AGO....ANOTHER POMPEY IS ON THE CARDS MR DAVIES.....SHOW SOME BACKBONE.....SACK THE LOT....THEN EITHER START AGAIN.....OR SELL THE CLUB...TO SOMEONE WITH A BIT MORE AMBITION AND VISION THAN THE BUNCH OF SELF SERVING LEECHES WHO HAVE RUINED A ONCE GREAT CLUB shadowfax
  • Score: 8

8:05pm Mon 1 Sep 14

J J J J says...

Do we have a figure for beckford if he is planning to be let go? 6 figure 5 figure with add ons? Watch him go and score them about 15+ goals, would be a waste to let him go if we cant sign a striker permanently who will score us about 20+ goals, loans just wont suffice anymore we make them good and then send them back and cannot get them back.
Do we have a figure for beckford if he is planning to be let go? 6 figure 5 figure with add ons? Watch him go and score them about 15+ goals, would be a waste to let him go if we cant sign a striker permanently who will score us about 20+ goals, loans just wont suffice anymore we make them good and then send them back and cannot get them back. J J J J
  • Score: 1

8:24pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Armitage93 says...

Beckford on more than 10k a week? Surely for someone of his finishing caliber, we should be commanding a fee of above 500k. His representatives have clearly been talking to Fulham, thats where the noise came from. Im hopeful with him seemingly on the way there, Dougie can get a striker in before 11
Beckford on more than 10k a week? Surely for someone of his finishing caliber, we should be commanding a fee of above 500k. His representatives have clearly been talking to Fulham, thats where the noise came from. Im hopeful with him seemingly on the way there, Dougie can get a striker in before 11 Armitage93
  • Score: 0

8:38pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Armitage93 says...

R.E your post at 8:34 Marc, do you mean a replacement to arrive tonight, i.e a target that can now be moved forward and cracked on with?
R.E your post at 8:34 Marc, do you mean a replacement to arrive tonight, i.e a target that can now be moved forward and cracked on with? Armitage93
  • Score: 0

8:45pm Mon 1 Sep 14

radboy1 says...

Is this the usual transfer deadline hype? Lots of promise and no action?
Is this the usual transfer deadline hype? Lots of promise and no action? radboy1
  • Score: 1

8:49pm Mon 1 Sep 14

J J J J says...

Whats to say we are all sat here contemplating what might happen and really nothing is happening and its all just talk and we are indeed set for a quiet deadline day. The power of the mind and all that
Whats to say we are all sat here contemplating what might happen and really nothing is happening and its all just talk and we are indeed set for a quiet deadline day. The power of the mind and all that J J J J
  • Score: 0

9:10pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Jamster26 says...

Marc, if Beckford does go, do you have the names of who we might go for? Heard Murray mentioned as a possible target, he would be good!
Marc, if Beckford does go, do you have the names of who we might go for? Heard Murray mentioned as a possible target, he would be good! Jamster26
  • Score: 0

9:12pm Mon 1 Sep 14

J J J J says...

Have the club made any comments on any of the "rumours"?
Have the club made any comments on any of the "rumours"? J J J J
  • Score: 0

9:21pm Mon 1 Sep 14

J J J J says...

In all honesty Marc can you see anything happening in the last hour or so?
In all honesty Marc can you see anything happening in the last hour or so? J J J J
  • Score: 0

9:26pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Strick says...

I don't suppose there's any chance of a club coming in for the football genius that is Dougie Freedman?

If only Carlsberg did transfer deadline days!
I don't suppose there's any chance of a club coming in for the football genius that is Dougie Freedman? If only Carlsberg did transfer deadline days! Strick
  • Score: 1

9:31pm Mon 1 Sep 14

jimborck says...

are you sending yourself messages as " jjjj " just to give yourself something to do ?????
are you sending yourself messages as " jjjj " just to give yourself something to do ????? jimborck
  • Score: 0

9:47pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Townleys says...

Wonder if he regrets it now?

Former Bolton player Kevin Davies recalls when he was involved in a transfer deadline saga: "It was the January transfer window three years ago. Sunderland came knocking and I'd a few chats with their manager Martin O'Neill.

"It came to deadline day, the agent turned up and the deal was on the table. I was told by the agent to bang on manager Owen Coyle's door and tell him I wanted to leave. I didn't want to do that. I wanted to sit down and talk about it. Owen looked me in the eye and said, 'you tell me you want to leave Bolton'. He kind of had me really. He knew I was the captain of the club and knew how much Bolton meant to me.

"It was a lot of information to take in on that day. I weighed it up with the family and worked out it wasn't the right move for us."
Wonder if he regrets it now? Former Bolton player Kevin Davies recalls when he was involved in a transfer deadline saga: "It was the January transfer window three years ago. Sunderland came knocking and I'd a few chats with their manager Martin O'Neill. "It came to deadline day, the agent turned up and the deal was on the table. I was told by the agent to bang on manager Owen Coyle's door and tell him I wanted to leave. I didn't want to do that. I wanted to sit down and talk about it. Owen looked me in the eye and said, 'you tell me you want to leave Bolton'. He kind of had me really. He knew I was the captain of the club and knew how much Bolton meant to me. "It was a lot of information to take in on that day. I weighed it up with the family and worked out it wasn't the right move for us." Townleys
  • Score: 0

9:53pm Mon 1 Sep 14

jimborck says...

watching ss deadline day, **** there is more repeats on this than corrie and emerdale together........
watching ss deadline day, **** there is more repeats on this than corrie and emerdale together........ jimborck
  • Score: 1

10:05pm Mon 1 Sep 14

clawhand says...

back to the dark old days for bolton..........they will be building an aldi on the corner of the macron nxt.........joke club from top to bottom.......gartsid
es nothing more than a fat dick turpin.......and freedman and his side kick lenny are nothing short of sunday league managers.......the club is doomed
back to the dark old days for bolton..........they will be building an aldi on the corner of the macron nxt.........joke club from top to bottom.......gartsid es nothing more than a fat dick turpin.......and freedman and his side kick lenny are nothing short of sunday league managers.......the club is doomed clawhand
  • Score: 6

10:16pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Liamdog says...

What an utter load of tripe... No one was ever remotely interested in Mark Davies. No one would pay good money for useless Beckford how many transfer deadlines have come and gone recently And no one wants any Bolton players! No quality no buyers ! Only good news the Bolton fans could have hoped for this week is is the departure of DF and Gartside who have overseen a shamefull decline of our club, What other buisness company or management would put up with such diabolicle performances both in team performance, income, ticket sales, and decline in profits and growth. An absolute utter disgrace, how long before the ground is sold to Tesco for an extension.
What an utter load of tripe... No one was ever remotely interested in Mark Davies. No one would pay good money for useless Beckford how many transfer deadlines have come and gone recently And no one wants any Bolton players! No quality no buyers ! Only good news the Bolton fans could have hoped for this week is is the departure of DF and Gartside who have overseen a shamefull decline of our club, What other buisness company or management would put up with such diabolicle performances both in team performance, income, ticket sales, and decline in profits and growth. An absolute utter disgrace, how long before the ground is sold to Tesco for an extension. Liamdog
  • Score: 7

10:25pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Armitage93 says...

Nothing like Bolton fans to over exaggerate. Don't see the point in loaning Beckford mark, only a sale would work surely. Still time yet
Nothing like Bolton fans to over exaggerate. Don't see the point in loaning Beckford mark, only a sale would work surely. Still time yet Armitage93
  • Score: 0

10:26pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Armitage93 says...

Why mac has autocorrect on it, i'll never understand... Marc**
Why mac has autocorrect on it, i'll never understand... Marc** Armitage93
  • Score: 0

10:33pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Armitage93 says...

Wild rumour doing the rounds that Leeds have offered Beckford 16k a week, take it or leave it...
Wild rumour doing the rounds that Leeds have offered Beckford 16k a week, take it or leave it... Armitage93
  • Score: 0

10:42pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Townleys says...

Just for you Marc.

The Rivaldo legend.

You have to admire Sam Allardyce's balls. They must be massive.

His tenure at Bolton Wanderers will go down in history as one of the finest we ever saw. He brought the club from the bottom of the First Division to the heights of the Premier League and UEFA Cup - being just a hair's breadth from qualifying for the Champions League along the way.




He made his name in reviving the careers of struggling 'names' such as Youri Djorkaeff, Jay Jay Okocha and Ivan Campo, as well as prolonging the top level careers of older players such as ex-Real Madrid captain Fernando Hierro.

One of Allardyce's failed coups however has gone down in club folklore: the attempt to sign Brazilian striker Rivaldo.

In 2004, Bolton were enjoying their fourth consecutive season in the top flight, and under Allardyce's control they would end up finishing a hugely creditable sixth, earning a first ever shot at the UEFA Cup.

The Brazilian had enjoyed a stellar career with the likes of Deportivo La Coruna, Barcelona and AC Milan, but in 2004 he was coming to the end of his time in Italy, and at 32 was no longer a spring chicken.

Allardyce made inquiries about Rivaldo's availability during the January transfer window and was told that the World Cup winner was unlikely to countenance a move to one of the Premiership's least fashionable sides. However, the manager utilised his legendary powers of persuasion, and the move was on.

His contract at Milan was terminated, with Rivaldo having spent the second half of the season back in Brazil playing for Cruzeiro, and having made just two appearances for Carlo Ancelotti's Milan team this season, his agent began approaching English clubs, including Manchester United, Chelsea and Liverpool, with a view to Rivaldo ending his career in the Premiership. Even as a free agent, however, the player's wage demands, believed to be around £3 million a year, priced him out of the market.

Although there was plenty of interest, a lack of firm offers forced him to return to Brazil where a local pharmaceutical company funded his move to the Belo Horizonte side, Cruzeiro.
Although he scored for Brazil against Peru in November, Rivaldo, who played for Cruzeiro on reduced wages, left the club in February and has been unable to keep his place in the national team.

It was also reported at the time that Rivaldo, owner of 75 international caps and 34 goals for Brazil, considered a lucrative offer from the Saudi Arabian team Al Ittihad and also had approaches from Portugal's Porto, Espanyol in Spain and Spartak Moscow.

It was then that Allardyce struck a deal with the former World Player of the Year. Meeting in a Manchester hotel, the manager and chairman thrashed out terms on a one year contract, and shook hands, leaving with the impression that the deal had been done.

Big Sam even told Sky:


"We have taken in all kinds of waifs and strays, people who were out of shape and out of sorts and we've turned them into proper players again,"

"Sometimes it just comes down to putting an arm around a player and making him feel wanted again. Football can be a lonely environment when you are on a downer.

"Even the best players can feel lost when things turn against them which I think is what has happened in Rivaldo's case."

However, things soon took a turn for the worst. Scottish side Celtic entered the scene, and Rivaldo appeared to have his head turned away from the Reebok. After four weeks of to-ing and fro-ing, Allardyce said that he felt the forward would be signing for another club.

Then, famously, Bolton chairman Phil Gartside claimed to have received confirmation of the transfer being close:


"I've got a fax in my pocket which arrived this morning saying he wants to come to us.

"It also says he doesn't want to play in Scotland.

"We are still hoping to do something with him. We've offered him a deal which he's accepted financially and it's just a case of getting together with him to put pen-to-paper."

Then, everything collapsed.

Wanderers lost patience with the Brazil star, with Gartside telling the club's website:


"I think as far as we are concerned, the Rivaldo situation is finished,"

"He indicated by talking to people in Qatar he is looking at the money aspect, not the football aspect."

Gartside added:


"We were told he wanted to resume his international career by playing in the Premiership.

"But that doesn't appear to be his main focus. He is not going to get that kind of exposure if he goes to Qatar."

Rivaldo held talks with the Qatar FA on Monday, but it had been thought unlikely that he would sign a deal with them.

The 32-year-old had been told a move over there would end his international career.

However, Qatar FA technical director Manfred Honer claimed:


"Rivaldo has signed for us. He has been here for three days and is finding a place to live."

Instead, the player moved to Greece, to join Olympiakos. After two successful seasons he moved across Athens to join AEK, before winding down his career playing in Uzbekistan, Angola, and for four different sides in Brazil.

Another one that got away.
Just for you Marc. The Rivaldo legend. You have to admire Sam Allardyce's balls. They must be massive. His tenure at Bolton Wanderers will go down in history as one of the finest we ever saw. He brought the club from the bottom of the First Division to the heights of the Premier League and UEFA Cup - being just a hair's breadth from qualifying for the Champions League along the way. He made his name in reviving the careers of struggling 'names' such as Youri Djorkaeff, Jay Jay Okocha and Ivan Campo, as well as prolonging the top level careers of older players such as ex-Real Madrid captain Fernando Hierro. One of Allardyce's failed coups however has gone down in club folklore: the attempt to sign Brazilian striker Rivaldo. In 2004, Bolton were enjoying their fourth consecutive season in the top flight, and under Allardyce's control they would end up finishing a hugely creditable sixth, earning a first ever shot at the UEFA Cup. The Brazilian had enjoyed a stellar career with the likes of Deportivo La Coruna, Barcelona and AC Milan, but in 2004 he was coming to the end of his time in Italy, and at 32 was no longer a spring chicken. Allardyce made inquiries about Rivaldo's availability during the January transfer window and was told that the World Cup winner was unlikely to countenance a move to one of the Premiership's least fashionable sides. However, the manager utilised his legendary powers of persuasion, and the move was on. His contract at Milan was terminated, with Rivaldo having spent the second half of the season back in Brazil playing for Cruzeiro, and having made just two appearances for Carlo Ancelotti's Milan team this season, his agent began approaching English clubs, including Manchester United, Chelsea and Liverpool, with a view to Rivaldo ending his career in the Premiership. Even as a free agent, however, the player's wage demands, believed to be around £3 million a year, priced him out of the market. Although there was plenty of interest, a lack of firm offers forced him to return to Brazil where a local pharmaceutical company funded his move to the Belo Horizonte side, Cruzeiro. Although he scored for Brazil against Peru in November, Rivaldo, who played for Cruzeiro on reduced wages, left the club in February and has been unable to keep his place in the national team. It was also reported at the time that Rivaldo, owner of 75 international caps and 34 goals for Brazil, considered a lucrative offer from the Saudi Arabian team Al Ittihad and also had approaches from Portugal's Porto, Espanyol in Spain and Spartak Moscow. It was then that Allardyce struck a deal with the former World Player of the Year. Meeting in a Manchester hotel, the manager and chairman thrashed out terms on a one year contract, and shook hands, leaving with the impression that the deal had been done. Big Sam even told Sky: "We have taken in all kinds of waifs and strays, people who were out of shape and out of sorts and we've turned them into proper players again," "Sometimes it just comes down to putting an arm around a player and making him feel wanted again. Football can be a lonely environment when you are on a downer. "Even the best players can feel lost when things turn against them which I think is what has happened in Rivaldo's case." However, things soon took a turn for the worst. Scottish side Celtic entered the scene, and Rivaldo appeared to have his head turned away from the Reebok. After four weeks of to-ing and fro-ing, Allardyce said that he felt the forward would be signing for another club. Then, famously, Bolton chairman Phil Gartside claimed to have received confirmation of the transfer being close: "I've got a fax in my pocket which arrived this morning saying he wants to come to us. "It also says he doesn't want to play in Scotland. "We are still hoping to do something with him. We've offered him a deal which he's accepted financially and it's just a case of getting together with him to put pen-to-paper." Then, everything collapsed. Wanderers lost patience with the Brazil star, with Gartside telling the club's website: "I think as far as we are concerned, the Rivaldo situation is finished," "He indicated by talking to people in Qatar he is looking at the money aspect, not the football aspect." Gartside added: "We were told he wanted to resume his international career by playing in the Premiership. "But that doesn't appear to be his main focus. He is not going to get that kind of exposure if he goes to Qatar." Rivaldo held talks with the Qatar FA on Monday, but it had been thought unlikely that he would sign a deal with them. The 32-year-old had been told a move over there would end his international career. However, Qatar FA technical director Manfred Honer claimed: "Rivaldo has signed for us. He has been here for three days and is finding a place to live." Instead, the player moved to Greece, to join Olympiakos. After two successful seasons he moved across Athens to join AEK, before winding down his career playing in Uzbekistan, Angola, and for four different sides in Brazil. Another one that got away. Townleys
  • Score: 0

10:46pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Armitage93 says...

Boredom has hit me this deadline day, however here is an essay for anyone just as bored as I am

Fellow Bolton fans probably won’t like this, but its time for a reality check.

The club has been absolutely crippled since a year before relegation, at least. Players commanding huge fees, to later leave on a free transfer, monumental wage packets, still being paid off to this very day and these very same players then to leave on nothing other than a free transfer. The clubs’ previous transfer policy could be described with one word, unsustainable. Look at Gary Cahill as an example. City offered 17m, we accepted 7m from Chelsea, because Mr Coyle felt he would have more opportunities there. It is exactly this type of attitude in conjunction with lavish spending on has beens that has got us exactly where we are.

However now is not the time to point the finger, quite the contrary in fact. Right now we need a front that displays unity, fight, and spirit. The same spirit that kept us in the Premier League all those years. We sit here, hoping for signings, hoping and praying that a mystery player will come in, kick on, and fire us to the promise land. Realistically, that isnt going to happen; not without an exit at the very least. There is no point sitting here, swearing, pointing the finger at each other, just because of the previous leadership going out and spending any money they possibly could.

The job Dougie Freedman has is an awful one. Cut the wage bill enormously, while still expected to move the club forward; with no cash backing. All of this has to be achieved, at the same time the likes of Nottingham Forest can go out and splash 5m on Britt Assombalonga, or the likes of Cardiff City go and spend 5m on an international centre half with experience at the highest level. I just dont know how Bolton fans think, realistically, we can compete here at the moment. It’s a balancing act. What is more important? The future of this club, or a few players walk in, perhaps not perform, and us undergo an embargo and become the embarrassment of the footballing world.

Keeping performances upto scratch on the field, with all the chaos that occurs off it financially, is a nigh on impossible task, and one, im sure, not one of us could perform better than Dougie Freedman. Realistically, we have to rid ourselves of one player, to bring another in. We dont like it, we have been spoilt by players such as Nicholas Anelka coming through the door. However this can’t happen anymore. There is no use us spending millions on players that may not even shoot us up that league. The same principle was used in the Premier League and it got us relegated.

We can all accept performances on the field havent been good enough, and the obvious solution would be to go and sign some players. We dont have the financial muscle to go and force a clubs hand to loan someone to us. As much as we would like to secure a Nick Powell, we just can’t compete financially. We have to wheel and deal, one out, one or two in. The evident need is in attack, and rather than getting on the managers back, lets get to the games, shout from the rooftops and support the lads. Attackers will come, I am sure we will have at least one more for the Sheffield Wednesday game.

Frustrating, I know, but the future of this club is more important. Lets use the Leeds performance to crack on, and get some decent points on that league table. People need to remember, this is largely, the side that did very well at the end of last year. We have strengthened significantly with Feeney, Danns, Dervite, Moxey, Trotter and Danns.

Look at the positives fellow Bolton fans, the future of the club is more important. Signings will come, just be patient.
Boredom has hit me this deadline day, however here is an essay for anyone just as bored as I am Fellow Bolton fans probably won’t like this, but its time for a reality check. The club has been absolutely crippled since a year before relegation, at least. Players commanding huge fees, to later leave on a free transfer, monumental wage packets, still being paid off to this very day and these very same players then to leave on nothing other than a free transfer. The clubs’ previous transfer policy could be described with one word, unsustainable. Look at Gary Cahill as an example. City offered 17m, we accepted 7m from Chelsea, because Mr Coyle felt he would have more opportunities there. It is exactly this type of attitude in conjunction with lavish spending on has beens that has got us exactly where we are. However now is not the time to point the finger, quite the contrary in fact. Right now we need a front that displays unity, fight, and spirit. The same spirit that kept us in the Premier League all those years. We sit here, hoping for signings, hoping and praying that a mystery player will come in, kick on, and fire us to the promise land. Realistically, that isnt going to happen; not without an exit at the very least. There is no point sitting here, swearing, pointing the finger at each other, just because of the previous leadership going out and spending any money they possibly could. The job Dougie Freedman has is an awful one. Cut the wage bill enormously, while still expected to move the club forward; with no cash backing. All of this has to be achieved, at the same time the likes of Nottingham Forest can go out and splash 5m on Britt Assombalonga, or the likes of Cardiff City go and spend 5m on an international centre half with experience at the highest level. I just dont know how Bolton fans think, realistically, we can compete here at the moment. It’s a balancing act. What is more important? The future of this club, or a few players walk in, perhaps not perform, and us undergo an embargo and become the embarrassment of the footballing world. Keeping performances upto scratch on the field, with all the chaos that occurs off it financially, is a nigh on impossible task, and one, im sure, not one of us could perform better than Dougie Freedman. Realistically, we have to rid ourselves of one player, to bring another in. We dont like it, we have been spoilt by players such as Nicholas Anelka coming through the door. However this can’t happen anymore. There is no use us spending millions on players that may not even shoot us up that league. The same principle was used in the Premier League and it got us relegated. We can all accept performances on the field havent been good enough, and the obvious solution would be to go and sign some players. We dont have the financial muscle to go and force a clubs hand to loan someone to us. As much as we would like to secure a Nick Powell, we just can’t compete financially. We have to wheel and deal, one out, one or two in. The evident need is in attack, and rather than getting on the managers back, lets get to the games, shout from the rooftops and support the lads. Attackers will come, I am sure we will have at least one more for the Sheffield Wednesday game. Frustrating, I know, but the future of this club is more important. Lets use the Leeds performance to crack on, and get some decent points on that league table. People need to remember, this is largely, the side that did very well at the end of last year. We have strengthened significantly with Feeney, Danns, Dervite, Moxey, Trotter and Danns. Look at the positives fellow Bolton fans, the future of the club is more important. Signings will come, just be patient. Armitage93
  • Score: 0

10:54pm Mon 1 Sep 14

J J J J says...

can utd not just give us £50m it would go down well within the club :D. One can always dream
can utd not just give us £50m it would go down well within the club :D. One can always dream J J J J
  • Score: 0

10:56pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Armitage93 says...

In the States for the next week Marc, so its only 6pm here! The bias US open coverage of the tennis and the lack of Bolton activity forced my hand I'm afraid haha
In the States for the next week Marc, so its only 6pm here! The bias US open coverage of the tennis and the lack of Bolton activity forced my hand I'm afraid haha Armitage93
  • Score: 0

11:07pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Steven Battersby says...

Mr Armitage's post is well written and largely an accurate representation of where our beloved club is. Looking at it in a factual sense I have to agree with what he says.
However we also know that despite these constraints it is a fact that Dougie Freedman's own performance has fallen way short of what could be achieved with this squad. His constant rotation of players, sterile tactics, a failure to use players to their best advantage e.g. Beckford and his total disregard for the intelligence of supporters with his often crass post match comments are surely factors that are now proving extremely difficult to defend.
I do believe he will be given at least the next two home matches to start turning things around but were we to lose those games then I believe the groundswell of anger and frustration from the stands would mean some change at the top would become inevitable. Whether that change would help or just exacerbate the situation who can say but I think it would be an inevitable consequence of any further poor results.
Mr Armitage's post is well written and largely an accurate representation of where our beloved club is. Looking at it in a factual sense I have to agree with what he says. However we also know that despite these constraints it is a fact that Dougie Freedman's own performance has fallen way short of what could be achieved with this squad. His constant rotation of players, sterile tactics, a failure to use players to their best advantage e.g. Beckford and his total disregard for the intelligence of supporters with his often crass post match comments are surely factors that are now proving extremely difficult to defend. I do believe he will be given at least the next two home matches to start turning things around but were we to lose those games then I believe the groundswell of anger and frustration from the stands would mean some change at the top would become inevitable. Whether that change would help or just exacerbate the situation who can say but I think it would be an inevitable consequence of any further poor results. Steven Battersby
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11:12pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Armitage93 says...

When you go for top players, there's always a high chance you lose out. If you don't speculate, you don't accumulate. Luckily for us though, i'm sure Dougie has more on his list and 1 will be in by next Saturday
When you go for top players, there's always a high chance you lose out. If you don't speculate, you don't accumulate. Luckily for us though, i'm sure Dougie has more on his list and 1 will be in by next Saturday Armitage93
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8:11am Tue 2 Sep 14

Riggermortis says...

No news
No news Riggermortis
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2:58pm Tue 2 Sep 14

wanderer1874 says...

Well said Marc...

Fellow Bolton fans probably won’t like this, but its time for a reality check.

The club has been absolutely crippled since a year before relegation, at least. Players commanding huge fees, to later leave on a free transfer, monumental wage packets etc...
Well said Marc... Fellow Bolton fans probably won’t like this, but its time for a reality check. The club has been absolutely crippled since a year before relegation, at least. Players commanding huge fees, to later leave on a free transfer, monumental wage packets etc... wanderer1874
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3:01pm Tue 2 Sep 14

wanderer1874 says...

...or well said Armitage93...!
...or well said Armitage93...! wanderer1874
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