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Chairman primed for another exciting season

10:10am Thursday 9th August 2007

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Phil Gartside admits he is apprehensive going into the new season, but is excited at the prospect of seeing Sammy Lee lead Wanderers into a new era.

The Whites kick off their seventh successive season in the Barclays Premier League against Sam Allardyce's Newcastle United at the Reebok on Saturday with a a new-look squad and a new backroom team.

And while the Bolton chairman concedes that there is no way of knowing what's in store, he is rubbing his hands in anticipation.

"There has been a lot of changes, but I think things had gone stale and needed a shake-up," he said reflecting on the wind of change that has swept through the Reebok since Lee was appointed manager in the wake of Allardyce's shock departure at the end of last season.

"And as a Bolton Wanderers fan I'm more excited about this season than I have for a long time.

"There have been massive changes, but that's inevitable when you get a change of management. But, with a bit of good planning and and good luck, we've now got a strong management team."

Phil Gartside's answers to a number of questions posed by fans via The Bolton News will be answered throughout the day HERE

Gartside had no hesitation in giving Lee his first management role and everything he has seen since the former Liverpool and England midfielder took charge, has convinced him that he was the right man for the job.

"You can't take anything away from Sammy - he has incredible experience at the highest level as a player and l From back page at the highest level as a coach," he said.

"And although, as a chairman, you're always apprehensive about the unknown, we've handed the reins to the right man.

"He wants to play in a different style so we've all go to be patient during what is bound to be a transitional period.

"There has been disruption and the changes on the staff front have produced some negatives as well as positives.

"But the signs are very good. We've retained some excellent qualities with the people who have stayed on board and complemented them by bringing in others."

Gartside observed Lee's management style closely when he travelled to South Korea to watch Wanderers compete in the Peace Cup and believes the new manager will run a tight ship.

"He's got a totally different man management style to Sam Allardyce," he said.

"Sam was successful with his style, but the changes Sammy is bringing in will make us a much more professional outfit.

"Sammy Lee might be known as one of the nicest men in football but the staff and players have already seen that he can be a disciplinarian when he needs to be."

The chairman refuses to put pressure on Lee to match the achievements of the previous regime, which established Wanderers as a top eight Premiership club over the last four seasons.

But he sees a top 10 finish as a realistic target.

"I've gone on record in the past, saying success for Bolton Wanderers is staying in the Premier League and anything above that is a bonus," he added.

"But expectation levels have risen to such an extent that we have got to be looking at the top 10 - and that's not unrealistic.

"What makes it difficult this time is that teams who finished below us last season have spent huge sums of money on the transfer market, largely due to foreign investment.

"That doesn't always work of course, but it has to come into the equation.

"As for long-term ambition, success for Bolton Wanderers and Phil Gartside is to be in the Premier League for the next 50 years - to be at the forefront of football and influencing the game in England and Europe."



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PJ, Bolton says...
10:16am Thu 9 Aug 07

WHY DIDNT WE SIGN ANY BIG NAME PLAYERS THIS TRANSFER WINDOW? IT SEEMS LIKE BOLTON ARE NOT PREPARED TO SPEND MONEY, WHICH IF WAS SPENT WE WOULD GET CHAMPIONS LEAGUE.

gazz_ball - Supera Moras!, bolton says...
10:30am Thu 9 Aug 07

Spending huge amounts of cash would not guarantee champs league, thats a silly comment, this season will be spent getting used to the new formation, backroom staff etc etc, to spend big with even more players would be daft. i think we are on the right track but lets get established first and see how things work out before we start putting ourselves at risk, one thing is for sure, we have a stronger squad than the last few seasons and its been 5 years since we were relegation material.

Lets just get a new foothold in the prem then start thinking about moving up again.

MGPW, Bolton says...
10:37am Thu 9 Aug 07

I'm really impressed with the Wanderers management. Resisting the temptation to spend for the sake of it will save us from becoming another Leeds.

gazz_ball - Supera Moras!, bolton says...
10:40am Thu 9 Aug 07

MGPW wrote:
I'm really impressed with the Wanderers management. Resisting the temptation to spend for the sake of it will save us from becoming another Leeds.
totally agree, we have some good quality bargain signings and we are definately not going anywhere this season, good entertaining football is on the menu, lets start to get a bit of respect brought back to Bolton.

PJ, Bolton says...
10:41am Thu 9 Aug 07

WELL THAT WAS ME TOLD!!! iTS NOT A SILLY COMMENT GAZ. WE WOULD HAVE HAD CHAMPIONS LEAGUE(IN MY OPINION) THIS SEASON IF WE HAD SPENT MONEY ON BIG NAME PLAYERS. I THINK PEOPLE FORGET HOW MUCH MONEY SKY GAVE US!!! ARE YOU A SHAREHOLDER BY THE WAY LOL. IM SURE THEY ARE ALL HAPPY(INC WARBURTONS) THAT WE PAY OFF OUR DEBTS INSTEAD OF GETTING IN PLAYERS THAT MAN U OR THE OTHER BIG CLUBS WOULD GO AFTER. PLAYERS WOULD RATHER GO TO EVERTON FOR SOME STRANGE REASON....

SUPERWHITEINEXILE, Altea-Spain says...
10:43am Thu 9 Aug 07

gazz_ball, your comments make much more sense than our friend PJ's. I realise that fans want the very best for their team but CL is always going to be unrealistic for Bolton unless some miricle occurs and Sammy Lee can build a CL team with a much smaller budget than anyone else. That includes Fat Sam. Isn't that why he left?

tyldesley white, Tyldesley/Aberdeen says...
10:56am Thu 9 Aug 07

Remember PJ that was Leeds thinking, and look what happended to them

PJ, Bolton says...
11:02am Thu 9 Aug 07

HANG ON A MINUTE!! B4 U ALL START HAVING A GO AT MY OPINIONS!!!!
SAMMY LEE HAS BROUGHT IN SOME FANTASTIC SIGNINGS AND IM SURE HE'S GOINA B A GR8 MANAGER FOR US.
THE PROBLEM IS WE ARE NOT MOVING UPWARDS. WE NEED TO BE COMPETING WITH THE BIG FISH INSTEAD OF BEING LITTLE FISH IN A BIG POND. I HAVE WATCHED BOLTON SINCE I WAS A LAD AND SEEN THEM RISE FROM THE DEPTHS OF THE OLD 4TH DIVISION. I EXPECT MY CLUB TO SPEND MY SEASON TICKET MONEY ON PLAYERS RATHER THAN PAYING OFF THE REEBOK STADUIM DEBTS!!!!
BOLTON TIL I DIE!!!!
PEACE TO U ALL
PJ X

Gonk, Horwich says...
11:03am Thu 9 Aug 07

PJ:

Unplug your computer, put it in the box and take it back to where you bought it. Ask for a refund as you are evidently too stupid to own one

gazz_ball - Supera Moras!, bolton says...
11:06am Thu 9 Aug 07

PJ wrote:
WELL THAT WAS ME TOLD!!! iTS NOT A SILLY COMMENT GAZ. WE WOULD HAVE HAD CHAMPIONS LEAGUE(IN MY OPINION) THIS SEASON IF WE HAD SPENT MONEY ON BIG NAME PLAYERS. I THINK PEOPLE FORGET HOW MUCH MONEY SKY GAVE US!!! ARE YOU A SHAREHOLDER BY THE WAY LOL. IM SURE THEY ARE ALL HAPPY(INC WARBURTONS) THAT WE PAY OFF OUR DEBTS INSTEAD OF GETTING IN PLAYERS THAT MAN U OR THE OTHER BIG CLUBS WOULD GO AFTER. PLAYERS WOULD RATHER GO TO EVERTON FOR SOME STRANGE REASON....
Wasn't meaning to have a pop mate, but Sammy Lee is an unknown in management, I have full faith in this man however, ask any regular poster on this site about my thoughts, but Phil Gartside is 1st and foremost a businessman and is not going to invest millions in an unkown entity. Last season was our best ever chance to push into the top 4, but this season with have a new formation and everything else to get used to first of all before we start pushing, plus we have UEFA this season, which we didn't last, lets see how our squad deal with that and all the other domestic cups.

We all want champs league but lets just concentrate on making these doubters that have us down for relegation eat their words.

PJ, Bolton says...
11:13am Thu 9 Aug 07

Gonk wrote:
PJ: Unplug your computer, put it in the box and take it back to where you bought it. Ask for a refund as you are evidently too stupid to own one
NO WORRIES GAZZ.WE ARE ON THE SAME SIDE AFTER ALL!!! JUST WANNA MOVE ON UP!!!
OH YEAH LUV U TOO GONK. LETS HEAR YOUR INTELLIGENT COMMENTS NEXT PLEASE XXX

gazz_ball - Supera Moras!, bolton says...
11:18am Thu 9 Aug 07

Gonk, there's no need for hostility, he's only expressing his views, if we had a russian billionaire joey behind the club then we could do, but football is a delicate business where anything can happen, Leeds har har

Jonny Boy, Little Lever says...
11:21am Thu 9 Aug 07

I for one am not excited about next season. I hate to be negative but we are shaping up as looking like Fulham 2, i.e a foreign legion of average players battling for 16th at best 14th. With mediocre signings such as McCann (a poor man's Gary Speed) and Helguson (a very poor man's Kevin Davies) plus the unknown players Dzemaili, Cid, Harasyni even Braaten we don't know how strong our squad is. Players like the ones just mentioned are all well and good when you are bringing in proven talent too. Then on the other hand look at the signings Allardyce has brought in at Newcastle he hasn't exactly broke the bank but made sum top quality sensible signings, we on the other hand have scraped the barrel! So I beleive this season should be entered with the upmost caution. We see it every year now, bold remarks made in the press, such as with the Man U games, "This is our FA Cup! or "We know how to beat them!" So why then do we always get battered! I really do hope I am proven wrong but when at the end of last season a man with no real management experience gets the Bolton job then boasts that Mr Gartside says, "I have been told by the chairman that the legnth of my contract is upto me." You have to ask yourself is Phil gartside an idiot or a model professional. Oh, who he himself also boasted when questioned at the end of last season (drunk on TV), "The transfer budget is unlimited!" Well looking at our transfer action I feel a whole lot better, I don't think we have even reached the 4 million mark and Sammy lee has been blamed for the low spending. Great! rant over.

PJ, Bolton says...
11:21am Thu 9 Aug 07

CHEERS GAZZ. IM NOT HERE TO OFFEND ANYONE AND DONT EXPECT EVERYONE TO AGREE WITH MY OPINIONS.THEY ARE JUST MY OPINIONS!!!
I PAY FOR A SEASON TICKET AND EXPECT A SAY!!

gazz_ball - Supera Moras!, bolton says...
11:27am Thu 9 Aug 07

Look at Fulham's squad compared to our's, how can you possibly use them as an example. Have you seen the skills Gavin McCann has? Helgusson i think has been bought for cover, we have got the fastest player in the swedish squad, by no means mediocre. What did BSA achieve in his 1st 2 seasons, we are not a relegation side. We will push for honours as soon as we have set our foundations

gazz_ball - Supera Moras!, bolton says...
11:30am Thu 9 Aug 07

PJ wrote:
CHEERS GAZZ. IM NOT HERE TO OFFEND ANYONE AND DONT EXPECT EVERYONE TO AGREE WITH MY OPINIONS.THEY ARE JUST MY OPINIONS!!! I PAY FOR A SEASON TICKET AND EXPECT A SAY!!
who's offended, now if you said Magnusson for prime minister, then barred you would be, haha

Jonny Boy, Bolton says...
11:30am Thu 9 Aug 07

I would also like to add that PJ is talking a whole lot of sense. You people having a go sound pretty deluded. ANOTHER LEEDS!! We haven't even been on the same level i.e no champions league and no premiership contendership! Were you some of the stupid fans shouting for Kevin Nolan's call up by any chance?

Jon, Bolton says...
11:32am Thu 9 Aug 07

Jonny Boy wrote:
I would also like to add that PJ is talking a whole lot of sense. You people having a go sound pretty deluded. ANOTHER LEEDS!! We haven't even been on the same level i.e no champions league and no premiership contendership! Were you some of the stupid fans shouting for Kevin Nolan's call up by any chance?
Jonny Boy did you leave your braincell in mummy's pocket today?

Jonny Boy, Bolton says...
11:36am Thu 9 Aug 07

We are established we do have a foot hold! We've finished in the top ten for the past few seasons. We should be building on it, we aint jus been promoted and started from scratch. BSA went through the relegation battles to get us hear not to start all over again. What are you on about? Gavin McCann's skills?! Too be honest no I haven't as he isn't at all known for them and Aston villa weren't too impressed either. There is plenty of better cover signings than Helguson out there it was a poor sigining.

Jonny Boy, Bolton says...
11:39am Thu 9 Aug 07

Ha Ha! No all intact am jus guessing sum one who doesn't agree with me was probably sad to see pedersen go and doesn't even a braincell to leave!

andy1979, Bolton says...
11:41am Thu 9 Aug 07

Fans on hear are saying if we had signed more class players and spent more money last season we would have been in chalpions league. Im BWFC through and through and want so much success for us but... we arent ready for the champions league yet lets keep building the squad as LSL is doing and continue progressing with this youthful side before we let our dreams run away with us.

glenn, chorley says...
11:42am Thu 9 Aug 07

It just goes to prove that people who cannot operate the caps lock are thick.

Phil Neal, southport says...
11:49am Thu 9 Aug 07

I just wounder if we had spent over 20 million pounds on the same group of players we have currently signed then would the fans be happy.Don't forget as soon as clubs realise you have money to spend they always inflate there prices.Who is too say that the group of players we have signed are not worth £20 million pounds - Time will tell !!!

I for one don't want a repeat of 1997 when we was informed in the B.E.N we were £30 million in debt and had to sell players to balance the books. Some fans have short memories.

Good management i say !!!

Jonny Boy, Bolton says...
11:54am Thu 9 Aug 07

I don't think we should've blown the bank. Do you people actually read what's said or just because some one makes an objective view you all become yonners with small town mentality. We could have made more sensible signings on top of the ones we have already made.

Jonny Boy, Bolton says...
11:55am Thu 9 Aug 07

That doesn't go for the guy above he made a sensible comment.

rob, horwich says...
11:58am Thu 9 Aug 07

andy1979 wrote:
Fans on hear are saying if we had signed more class players and spent more money last season we would have been in chalpions league. Im BWFC through and through and want so much success for us but... we arent ready for the champions league yet lets keep building the squad as LSL is doing and continue progressing with this youthful side before we let our dreams run away with us.
bob on there pal, just look back to a few week ago when we played lyon, yeah it was only a freindly but they were the better team and there are more fearsum teams in the champs league that would just tear us apart in defence.....
Gazz i've only been posting my veiws on this chatroom since tuesday this week, but i've been enjoying reading them for the past month or so and the comments you've put on have hit the nail right on the head everytime, up up the whites to a top 10 finish AGAIN !!

PJ, Bolton says...
11:59am Thu 9 Aug 07

Cheers Jonny!!!!!!!
I'm always right lol

Jonny Boy, Bolton says...
12:00pm Thu 9 Aug 07

gazz_ball - Supera Moras! wrote:
Look at Fulham's squad compared to our's, how can you possibly use them as an example. Have you seen the skills Gavin McCann has? Helgusson i think has been bought for cover, we have got the fastest player in the swedish squad, by no means mediocre. What did BSA achieve in his 1st 2 seasons, we are not a relegation side. We will push for honours as soon as we have set our foundations
I never criticised the signing of Wilhelmsson once. I also believe Samuell was a good buy. So please read what i say before replying.

PJ, Bolton says...
12:01pm Thu 9 Aug 07

glenn wrote:
It just goes to prove that people who cannot operate the caps lock are thick.
cAPs LoCk???????////

Jonny Boy, Bolton says...
12:03pm Thu 9 Aug 07

PJ wrote:
Cheers Jonny!!!!!!! I'm always right lol
No worries fella! Am die hard with a season ticket too mate. We're feeling the wrath of the family stand here. ha!

run rabbit run, Fantasy island says...
12:10pm Thu 9 Aug 07

Jesus, finally in PJ and Jonny boy we have some balance. So what do the Gartside clones do?, they go to their default setting and start making personal attacks about being unable to use computers and only having one brain cell. The deluded bunch meanwhile think LSL is the next Alex Ferguson and that we're Liverpool in the 80's hey day.

Remember, its a forum for discussion, not a happy clappy place to nod in agreement at everything Bolton are doing.

Tell me, aren't you slightly concerned at the lack of top bracket signings? Don't you wonder why LSL has been unable to bring in any names? Doesn't it worry you that 3 of our best players are constantly being touted for moves???

Jonny Boy, Bolton says...
12:12pm Thu 9 Aug 07

run rabbit run wrote:
Jesus, finally in PJ and Jonny boy we have some balance. So what do the Gartside clones do?, they go to their default setting and start making personal attacks about being unable to use computers and only having one brain cell. The deluded bunch meanwhile think LSL is the next Alex Ferguson and that we're Liverpool in the 80's hey day. Remember, its a forum for discussion, not a happy clappy place to nod in agreement at everything Bolton are doing. Tell me, aren't you slightly concerned at the lack of top bracket signings? Don't you wonder why LSL has been unable to bring in any names? Doesn't it worry you that 3 of our best players are constantly being touted for moves???
Amen Brother! Thought I was fighting a losing battle there!

Jon, Bolton says...
12:12pm Thu 9 Aug 07

Jonny Boy wrote:
PJ wrote: Cheers Jonny!!!!!!! I'm always right lol
No worries fella! Am die hard with a season ticket too mate. We're feeling the wrath of the family stand here. ha!
If you are such a die hard, perhaps you could tell us when in the last 30 years we have had things so good? When have we ever been a top 10 premiership side year after year?

This is the best period in the clubs recent history by a country mile and people should appreciate how since Gartside took over we have gone from bottom 6 championship side to top 10 premiership side and stayed there.

That is some track record!


Paul1970, Fleetwood says...
12:14pm Thu 9 Aug 07

Another comment from a Newcastle (think we r a big club fan)

Is Sam Praising Bolton A Little Too Much?

By Nu Mad Thursday 9th August 2007


Sam Allardyce has expressed his delight at how quickly David Rozehnal has settled into English football, but is the Toon boss building up his debut at Bolton just a little too high?

Article continues below


Yes we understand the Reebok has happy memories for the Toon boss, and we know how much a win there would mean to him.

But that little 27,000 capacity MFI stadium is hardly Old Trafford or Anfield ... is it?

I find it incredible the ex-Bolton manager believes the Czech international will be "stunned by what he finds at Bolton Wanderers at the weekend".
Allardyce: "I've been really pleased with how David has settled so far. He is a terrific human being, let alone a very good player.

"However, it has only been pre-season and I don't want to heap too much praise on him at the moment because of that. There is still a lot for him to get used to. What he will experience at Bolton at the weekend will shock him to say the very, very least.

"Everything he has experienced now in training and in pre-season friendlies, if he thinks that's hard, wait until he goes to the Reebok Stadium.

"If he can cope with that, the way Bolton play and the questions they will ask of him, he will be able to cope with anything. I hope he does because he's a good player and he has had a good pre-season. He hasn't missed any training and he has been a major bonus during our pre-season programme."

Lets hope Davies welcomes Rozehnal in good old Dirty Dozen Fashion.
S--t Jame's Park explains the Sunday League Pub team playing in the Park, FSA hav-it technique.

Paul1970, Fleetwood says...
12:16pm Thu 9 Aug 07

I put the last bit in.

BWFC-TIL-I-DIE, BOLTON says...
12:17pm Thu 9 Aug 07

jonny boy.... i personally think that you talk utter sh*t*!! spending 20 - 30 mil doesnt always get you success.... westham, fulham, sunderland...spent millions...take note of how many of those are expensive mistakes by the end of the season... so what if we've spent so little money...do you think we'd have got braaten for 500k if he had 3 years left on his contract?? look at chelsea....4 free transfers during close season...does that mean they wont be up there... we have only taken advantage of a situation to bring in players below their true market value... give the team a chance, stop winjin and stick your head back up your 4ss!!!

Trotter, Bolton says...
12:19pm Thu 9 Aug 07

Well Done Phil Gartside, not often a chairman kicks out his manager and keeps the reasons why, away from the media circus, Allardyce pleaded to see out the last 2 games of the season after talking shop with Freddie Shepherd with the aim to wave goodbye to the Wanderers in the close season, but Phil did the right thing for Bolton Wanderers when he gave him the boot.
Good riddance I say. It took a while for me to find this reliable information out, so WELL DONE Phil.

Keep the Faith

Jonny Boy, Bolton says...
12:20pm Thu 9 Aug 07

Jon wrote:
Jonny Boy wrote:
PJ wrote: Cheers Jonny!!!!!!! I'm always right lol
No worries fella! Am die hard with a season ticket too mate. We're feeling the wrath of the family stand here. ha!
If you are such a die hard, perhaps you could tell us when in the last 30 years we have had things so good? When have we ever been a top 10 premiership side year after year? This is the best period in the clubs recent history by a country mile and people should appreciate how since Gartside took over we have gone from bottom 6 championship side to top 10 premiership side and stayed there. That is some track record!
Yeah exactly! Do u actally know what you're saying. We have established Bolton r the best they have ever been but there is a new season starting and we don't seemed to have added any real quality in abundance to build on the past season's successes. Instead I am being told from u insightful ot that we should get a foot hold this season. Well what the hell have we been doing in the past!!!!!!

rob, horwich says...
12:23pm Thu 9 Aug 07

BWFC-TIL-I-DIE wrote:
jonny boy.... i personally think that you talk utter sh*t*!! spending 20 - 30 mil doesnt always get you success.... westham, fulham, sunderland...spent millions...take note of how many of those are expensive mistakes by the end of the season... so what if we've spent so little money...do you think we'd have got braaten for 500k if he had 3 years left on his contract?? look at chelsea....4 free transfers during close season...does that mean they wont be up there... we have only taken advantage of a situation to bring in players below their true market value... give the team a chance, stop winjin and stick your head back up your 4ss!!!
I'm going to put a tenner on westham, fulham and sunderland going down at seasons end just for a laugh!
MY MY MY BWFC you've had your wheatabix today havn't you ?

Jonny Boy, Bolton says...
12:23pm Thu 9 Aug 07

BWFC-TIL-I-DIE wrote:
jonny boy.... i personally think that you talk utter sh*t*!! spending 20 - 30 mil doesnt always get you success.... westham, fulham, sunderland...spent millions...take note of how many of those are expensive mistakes by the end of the season... so what if we've spent so little money...do you think we'd have got braaten for 500k if he had 3 years left on his contract?? look at chelsea....4 free transfers during close season...does that mean they wont be up there... we have only taken advantage of a situation to bring in players below their true market value... give the team a chance, stop winjin and stick your head back up your 4ss!!!
Ur an idiot. When once have I said spend all that?! Read the messages before u make urself look like an even bigger fool!

whatsgoingon, Bolton says...
12:30pm Thu 9 Aug 07

Its great reading all the opinions, thats what makes football such a passionate entity, with regards to the spending if we had spent £5m on a Swedish International winger with over 40 caps for a top 2o nation we'de have been buzzing (we didn;t we got him for £2m). If we had signed a 21 year old Swiss international midfielder who at 20 was captain of his club and was sought after by Juventus and at least 3 Bundeslige teams for 3 or 4 mill again we'de been raving, we didn't we got him on a free. Its not about the cost its quality, I for one would be more worried if we'de spent 30-40 milion on you tube cuttings a la City. It is a worrying or exciting time(depending on your mentality) but I'm excited by some of the signings and also think bulking up the squad with quality pro's like McCann and Helgussen will also help.Lets not forget about Harsanyi and the reborn Vaz Te and we should look forwad to some exciting stuff. On the subject of people calling other posters stupid because of their comments only people who think anyone who's opinion is different to theirs is stupid can truly be called stupid and ignorant.

Mike, Chew Moor says...
12:33pm Thu 9 Aug 07

PJ wrote:
WELL THAT WAS ME TOLD!!! iTS NOT A SILLY COMMENT GAZ. WE WOULD HAVE HAD CHAMPIONS LEAGUE(IN MY OPINION) THIS SEASON IF WE HAD SPENT MONEY ON BIG NAME PLAYERS. I THINK PEOPLE FORGET HOW MUCH MONEY SKY GAVE US!!! ARE YOU A SHAREHOLDER BY THE WAY LOL. IM SURE THEY ARE ALL HAPPY(INC WARBURTONS) THAT WE PAY OFF OUR DEBTS INSTEAD OF GETTING IN PLAYERS THAT MAN U OR THE OTHER BIG CLUBS WOULD GO AFTER. PLAYERS WOULD RATHER GO TO EVERTON FOR SOME STRANGE REASON....
A lot of valid points but until we've seen the "new" team play a few competitive matches it's difficult to judge - I for one haven't a clue what the starting 11 will be.

The way contracts and transfers work these days it's difficult to judge how good a player is - Ben Haim cost Chelsea nothing but if he still had a couple of years on his contract he would have cost several million. Just because we haven't spent big money doesn't mean the 11 new players are no good - the wage bill will certainly have increased.

Re the earlier comments about shareholders - Eddie Davies owns about 99% of the shares but doesn't receive a dividend (i.e. doesn't take any money out). At the time the shares were listed (1997) the biggest shareholder was the family behind Gordon's of Bolton and not the Warburtons. (info from company accounts logged at Companies House).

Whatever your opinions on the board, players LSL, BSA etc I just hope everyone at the Reebok gives 100% getting behind the team for 90 minutes - we can make a difference.

C'mon you whites

Jonny Boy, Bolton says...
12:35pm Thu 9 Aug 07

whatsgoingon wrote:
Its great reading all the opinions, thats what makes football such a passionate entity, with regards to the spending if we had spent £5m on a Swedish International winger with over 40 caps for a top 2o nation we'de have been buzzing (we didn;t we got him for £2m). If we had signed a 21 year old Swiss international midfielder who at 20 was captain of his club and was sought after by Juventus and at least 3 Bundeslige teams for 3 or 4 mill again we'de been raving, we didn't we got him on a free. Its not about the cost its quality, I for one would be more worried if we'de spent 30-40 milion on you tube cuttings a la City. It is a worrying or exciting time(depending on your mentality) but I'm excited by some of the signings and also think bulking up the squad with quality pro's like McCann and Helgussen will also help.Lets not forget about Harsanyi and the reborn Vaz Te and we should look forwad to some exciting stuff. On the subject of people calling other posters stupid because of their comments only people who think anyone who's opinion is different to theirs is stupid can truly be called stupid and ignorant.
Sum good points mate. I only called people stupid as I was brought to thier level. With constant abuse. Ha! We actually haven't signed Wilhelmsson yet but all in all a good signing. I hope Dzemaili is good all I said of him was he is still unproven. But with reghards to the hype I take it with a pinch of salt do you remember 'Emanelle Morini' by any chance?

BWFC-TIL-I-DIE, BOLTON says...
12:38pm Thu 9 Aug 07

Jonny Boy wrote:
BWFC-TIL-I-DIE wrote: jonny boy.... i personally think that you talk utter sh*t*!! spending 20 - 30 mil doesnt always get you success.... westham, fulham, sunderland...spent millions...take note of how many of those are expensive mistakes by the end of the season... so what if we've spent so little money...do you think we'd have got braaten for 500k if he had 3 years left on his contract?? look at chelsea....4 free transfers during close season...does that mean they wont be up there... we have only taken advantage of a situation to bring in players below their true market value... give the team a chance, stop winjin and stick your head back up your 4ss!!!
Ur an idiot. When once have I said spend all that?! Read the messages before u make urself look like an even bigger fool!
your the idiot my friend!!! anyone who thinks big, famous names take you into the champions league and beyond must be on the same drugs as notlob.... just cos they wernt big money signings, just cos they wernt famous names.....doesnt mean they wont be successful....
keep the faith and less hostility!!!!!! we are all fans after all.....

Trotter, Bolton says...
12:39pm Thu 9 Aug 07

whatsgoingon, Bolton

Sound comments my friend, the silly remarks from some, not all, side track the main issue, we are all supposed to be pulling in the same direction, so let's count to ten before having a go at someone behind a computer screen, pretty pathetic really lads & lasses. Let's enjoy the season, especially at 3pm on Saturday.

Keep the Faith

rob, horwich says...
12:39pm Thu 9 Aug 07

whatsgoingon wrote:
Its great reading all the opinions, thats what makes football such a passionate entity, with regards to the spending if we had spent £5m on a Swedish International winger with over 40 caps for a top 2o nation we'de have been buzzing (we didn;t we got him for £2m). If we had signed a 21 year old Swiss international midfielder who at 20 was captain of his club and was sought after by Juventus and at least 3 Bundeslige teams for 3 or 4 mill again we'de been raving, we didn't we got him on a free. Its not about the cost its quality, I for one would be more worried if we'de spent 30-40 milion on you tube cuttings a la City. It is a worrying or exciting time(depending on your mentality) but I'm excited by some of the signings and also think bulking up the squad with quality pro's like McCann and Helgussen will also help.Lets not forget about Harsanyi and the reborn Vaz Te and we should look forwad to some exciting stuff. On the subject of people calling other posters stupid because of their comments only people who think anyone who's opinion is different to theirs is stupid can truly be called stupid and ignorant.
best comment made today so far !!!!
saturdays team i think will start with jussi in goal.......
Vaz Te and davies up front............
Nobby, Guthrie, Alonso and either campo or speedo in midfield........
Faye, Cid, Jlloyd and winderlic(that big slovak lad) as our back four i think...

Jonny Boy, Bolton says...
12:46pm Thu 9 Aug 07

BWFC-TIL-I-DIE wrote:
Jonny Boy wrote:
BWFC-TIL-I-DIE wrote: jonny boy.... i personally think that you talk utter sh*t*!! spending 20 - 30 mil doesnt always get you success.... westham, fulham, sunderland...spent millions...take note of how many of those are expensive mistakes by the end of the season... so what if we've spent so little money...do you think we'd have got braaten for 500k if he had 3 years left on his contract?? look at chelsea....4 free transfers during close season...does that mean they wont be up there... we have only taken advantage of a situation to bring in players below their true market value... give the team a chance, stop winjin and stick your head back up your 4ss!!!
Ur an idiot. When once have I said spend all that?! Read the messages before u make urself look like an even bigger fool!
your the idiot my friend!!! anyone who thinks big, famous names take you into the champions league and beyond must be on the same drugs as notlob.... just cos they wernt big money signings, just cos they wernt famous names.....doesnt mean they wont be successful.... keep the faith and less hostility!!!!!! we are all fans after all.....
Fair enough but the hostility started as you keep misjudging what I'm saying. I haven't said 'big names' jus more established players. But on the other hand I wud argue though that u can benefit from big name players look at the top 4! Plus take ou anelka and Diouf from our squad and it doesnt look anywhere near as impressive.

BWFC-TIL-I-DIE, BOLTON says...
12:51pm Thu 9 Aug 07

jonny boy, lets start again son...clean slate and i'll buy you a half time pie on saturday!!! at the end of the day nobody is wrong with there opinion.....

whatsgoingon, Bolton says...
12:52pm Thu 9 Aug 07

Thanx for he feedback, its alright ripping each other apart but lets save it for the opposition. I think FSA will get a torrid time on Saturday not because he left but the dishonest underhand (his and his sons trademark it would appear) dealings since. Does anybody truly believe he left for any reason other than the Newcastle job. Also for the fact he tried to unsettle not just backroom staff but players as well. I;ve no idea what the starting 11 will be but if we are going to play 4-4-2 i can see Faye becoming a key player as a holding midfielder allowing Alonso/Guthrie/Nolan to play further up the pitch. Can't wait to see the wingers(Vaz Te may start on the wing this week). being used.

Keep the faith and lets create a cauldron this Saturday.

Jonny Boy, Bolton says...
12:56pm Thu 9 Aug 07

Mr BWFC TILL I DIE that wud be reet good. Completely agree mate its jus good to see we all care! I jus hope we whoop newcastle! cause I cant bring meself to watch MOTD when we lose. It hurts too much. Ha!

mick I, bolton says...
12:56pm Thu 9 Aug 07

Enrico Morricone?- No seriously Johnny, one of Allardyces flops along with Bulent, Diawarra, Ballesta etc, but along with every flop there was a gem a la Jay Jay, Djorkaeff Hierro etc.We have finished in a European position, with the same squad which starts this season, along with some astute solid signings- we should go into this season, with hope of at least a top 10 position. One worrying aspect is the centre back position- we need to bring in another centre back especially with Meite and Faye away for the African Nations.Keep positive come on you Whites!

Trotter, Bolton says...
1:02pm Thu 9 Aug 07

Jonny Boy wrote:
Mr BWFC TILL I DIE that wud be reet good. Completely agree mate its jus good to see we all care! I jus hope we whoop newcastle! cause I cant bring meself to watch MOTD when we lose. It hurts too much. Ha!
I love a happy ending.

Jonny Boy, Bolton says...
1:02pm Thu 9 Aug 07

mick I wrote:
Enrico Morricone?- No seriously Johnny, one of Allardyces flops along with Bulent, Diawarra, Ballesta etc, but along with every flop there was a gem a la Jay Jay, Djorkaeff Hierro etc.We have finished in a European position, with the same squad which starts this season, along with some astute solid signings- we should go into this season, with hope of at least a top 10 position. One worrying aspect is the centre back position- we need to bring in another centre back especially with Meite and Faye away for the African Nations.Keep positive come on you Whites!
We have signed sum gems there mate. I have been quite harsh as i believe we have built a stronger squad. I was trying to really point out what u said there Djorkaeff n co were good etablished players that could fit straight in and I was hoping for a maybe a couple more like that epecially upfront and at the back but a few beers down n i'll be giving the geordie faithful sum good old abuse and thinkin were the best team ever. ha!

Jon, Bolton says...
1:04pm Thu 9 Aug 07

Jonny Boy wrote:
Jon wrote:
Jonny Boy wrote:
PJ wrote: Cheers Jonny!!!!!!! I'm always right lol
No worries fella! Am die hard with a season ticket too mate. We're feeling the wrath of the family stand here. ha!
If you are such a die hard, perhaps you could tell us when in the last 30 years we have had things so good? When have we ever been a top 10 premiership side year after year? This is the best period in the clubs recent history by a country mile and people should appreciate how since Gartside took over we have gone from bottom 6 championship side to top 10 premiership side and stayed there. That is some track record!
Yeah exactly! Do u actally know what you're saying. We have established Bolton r the best they have ever been but there is a new season starting and we don't seemed to have added any real quality in abundance to build on the past season's successes. Instead I am being told from u insightful ot that we should get a foot hold this season. Well what the hell have we been doing in the past!!!!!!
We have the same squad as last season minus Haim and Pedersen.

But we have added 11 players. Last season the squad was too small. Now it is far bigger. If you don't think that makes us better off and that we have improved then fine!

For me thats a superb improvement as last season we simply did not have enough players.

We are never going to compete with the money bag teams simply because we are a small club with a small fan base.

We've done amazingly well so far and I can't see why we won't continue to. The champions league is way way out of our reach. Yes we came close points wise but does ANYONE really believe we had the same quality in our team as Arsenal or Liverpool? Or that we ever could?

JK, Leyland says...
1:05pm Thu 9 Aug 07

rob wrote:
whatsgoingon wrote: Its great reading all the opinions, thats what makes football such a passionate entity, with regards to the spending if we had spent £5m on a Swedish International winger with over 40 caps for a top 2o nation we'de have been buzzing (we didn;t we got him for £2m). If we had signed a 21 year old Swiss international midfielder who at 20 was captain of his club and was sought after by Juventus and at least 3 Bundeslige teams for 3 or 4 mill again we'de been raving, we didn't we got him on a free. Its not about the cost its quality, I for one would be more worried if we'de spent 30-40 milion on you tube cuttings a la City. It is a worrying or exciting time(depending on your mentality) but I'm excited by some of the signings and also think bulking up the squad with quality pro's like McCann and Helgussen will also help.Lets not forget about Harsanyi and the reborn Vaz Te and we should look forwad to some exciting stuff. On the subject of people calling other posters stupid because of their comments only people who think anyone who's opinion is different to theirs is stupid can truly be called stupid and ignorant.
best comment made today so far !!!! saturdays team i think will start with jussi in goal....... Vaz Te and davies up front............ Nobby, Guthrie, Alonso and either campo or speedo in midfield........ Faye, Cid, Jlloyd and winderlic(that big slovak lad) as our back four i think...
Rob, you've posted it again!! I'm not sure whether you've missed the last few seasons, but we also have quality players such as Anelka and Diouf who will almost certainly start and God only knows who winderlic is!! my line up would be Jussi
Hunt (if injured Cid) Meite
Faye
Samuel
Vaz Te (on the left) Guthrie (on right) McCann or Speed
Nolan (Nolan mainly for hard work but Alonso and Campo could challenge him, personally I'd bring Alonso on for Nolan if we're still 0-0 in the second half and having trouble breaking what's bound to be a tough organised and boring team down)

Anelka
Diouf (just edges Davies)
Bench;
Davies
Alonso/Campo
Michalik
Sinclair
Al-Habsi

I think with the injuries Fat Sam has he'll set his stall up and the message will be not to get beat - he'd settle for a draw. We've got options on the bench if we need to change things around, Davies, Alonso and Sinclair(right wing) can all come on to freshen things up. Obviously if either Braaten or Wilhemsson are on the bench they they would probably take Sinclair's place although I like his versatility.

Remember lads if it's not going to plan and the Geordies are playing for a draw and hoping for a lucky breakaway goal then we need to be patient and get behind the lads 100%, they're under pressure and are also trying to make a new system work. I reckon they might score first but we'll beat them 2-1.

Trotter, Bolton says...
1:07pm Thu 9 Aug 07

BWFC-TIL-I-DIE wrote:
jonny boy, lets start again son...clean slate and i'll buy you a half time pie on saturday!!! at the end of the day nobody is wrong with there opinion.....
How yer doin BWFC-TIL-I-DIE, all the best for the season, hope we can still sign a right back and centre half before the deadline, but apart from that I feel a top 8 position is on the cards.
Just been on the MEN wanderers site, they too reckon Allardyce is in for a hot reception and according to the ticket office there are just a handful of tickets left for the game. Enjoy!!

Keep the Faith

Jonny Boy, Bolton says...
1:09pm Thu 9 Aug 07

Jon I agree. But we struggled through the end of last season and like i said jus above ur last post that I have been quite harsh. As the squad is stronger but maybe a couple more established players were needed in defence and up front. As Davies is good but no goal scorer neither is helguson, Diouf and Anelka may not even stay yet.

JK, Leyland says...
1:11pm Thu 9 Aug 07

rob wrote:
whatsgoingon wrote: Its great reading all the opinions, thats what makes football such a passionate entity, with regards to the spending if we had spent £5m on a Swedish International winger with over 40 caps for a top 2o nation we'de have been buzzing (we didn;t we got him for £2m). If we had signed a 21 year old Swiss international midfielder who at 20 was captain of his club and was sought after by Juventus and at least 3 Bundeslige teams for 3 or 4 mill again we'de been raving, we didn't we got him on a free. Its not about the cost its quality, I for one would be more worried if we'de spent 30-40 milion on you tube cuttings a la City. It is a worrying or exciting time(depending on your mentality) but I'm excited by some of the signings and also think bulking up the squad with quality pro's like McCann and Helgussen will also help.Lets not forget about Harsanyi and the reborn Vaz Te and we should look forwad to some exciting stuff. On the subject of people calling other posters stupid because of their comments only people who think anyone who's opinion is different to theirs is stupid can truly be called stupid and ignorant.
best comment made today so far !!!! saturdays team i think will start with jussi in goal....... Vaz Te and davies up front............ Nobby, Guthrie, Alonso and either campo or speedo in midfield........ Faye, Cid, Jlloyd and winderlic(that big slovak lad) as our back four i think...
Rob, you've posted it again!! I'm not sure whether you've missed the last few seasons, but we also have quality players such as Anelka and Diouf who will almost certainly start and God only knows who winderlic is!! my line up would be Jussi
Hunt (if injured Cid) Meite
Faye
Samuel
Vaz Te (on the left) Guthrie (on right) McCann or Speed
Nolan (Nolan mainly for hard work but Alonso and Campo could challenge him, personally I'd bring Alonso on for Nolan if we're still 0-0 in the second half and having trouble breaking what's bound to be a tough organised and boring team down)

Anelka
Diouf (just edges Davies)
Bench;
Davies
Alonso/Campo
Michalik
Sinclair
Al-Habsi

I think with the injuries Fat Sam has he'll set his stall up and the message will be not to get beat - he'd settle for a draw. We've got options on the bench if we need to change things around, Davies, Alonso and Sinclair(right wing) can all come on to freshen things up. Obviously if either Braaten or Wilhemsson are on the bench they they would probably take Sinclair's place although I like his versatility.

Remember lads if it's not going to plan and the Geordies are playing for a draw and hoping for a lucky breakaway goal then we need to be patient and get behind the lads 100%, they're under pressure and are also trying to make a new system work. I reckon they might score first but we'll beat them 2-1.

notlob, says...
1:19pm Thu 9 Aug 07

We do not need to spend money lets just say we won't. The facts are simple were are we most vulnerable i would right back even with the kids and joey not looking like he is near fitness can we go and get one without spending money? The main problem with this years activities in the transfer market is that all clubs have spent therefore, on paper will improve on players positions and should up their standards we have not bought in any class to improve one position from our first team therefore, we may be the same as last year however, how far away us in aptitude and talent were the rest too close for me and that is why we needed to buy some class especially in our most vulnerable areas. Midfield you could argue has been altered only to take into account the optional 442 system yet our full back and centre half position is suspect since tel Ben left. It would not take 10s of millions only around 7M and we would be able to look forward to the new era would our board back the manager for such expenditure i very much doubt as we have only just paid our second installment for Anelka of 2M and that is more than enough for little old Bolton.

rob, horwich says...
1:20pm Thu 9 Aug 07

is anybody else like me on saturday ... who is working and can't find somebody to cover for you.... if so let me know coz i'm gutted to know i can't go, and i'd be more at ease if i wasn't alone on this?

I'm glad your on the ball today J.K. mate because i've still got hangover from last nite.. thats my excuse and i'm stickin to it like a very srong super glue.

BWFC-TIL-I-DIE, BOLTON says...
1:20pm Thu 9 Aug 07

Trotter wrote:
BWFC-TIL-I-DIE wrote: jonny boy, lets start again son...clean slate and i'll buy you a half time pie on saturday!!! at the end of the day nobody is wrong with there opinion.....
How yer doin BWFC-TIL-I-DIE, all the best for the season, hope we can still sign a right back and centre half before the deadline, but apart from that I feel a top 8 position is on the cards. Just been on the MEN wanderers site, they too reckon Allardyce is in for a hot reception and according to the ticket office there are just a handful of tickets left for the game. Enjoy!! Keep the Faith
good afternoon trotter.... i too think there will be more jeers than cheers for fsa... although we are very grateful for what he has done for us and where he (helped) get us, i think he ruined it for himself at the end.... that aside though should make it a very tense atmosphere at the reebok, and like youve pointed out should be a full house.. i'll be having a sleepless night on friday night with all the excitement..... hope we do the business against the geordie boyz otherwise ive been promised my name will be plastered all over the newcastle website because of all the grief ive give them over the past 2 months....

rob, horwich says...
1:28pm Thu 9 Aug 07

BWFC-TIL-I-DIE wrote:
Trotter wrote:
BWFC-TIL-I-DIE wrote: jonny boy, lets start again son...clean slate and i'll buy you a half time pie on saturday!!! at the end of the day nobody is wrong with there opinion.....
How yer doin BWFC-TIL-I-DIE, all the best for the season, hope we can still sign a right back and centre half before the deadline, but apart from that I feel a top 8 position is on the cards. Just been on the MEN wanderers site, they too reckon Allardyce is in for a hot reception and according to the ticket office there are just a handful of tickets left for the game. Enjoy!! Keep the Faith
good afternoon trotter.... i too think there will be more jeers than cheers for fsa... although we are very grateful for what he has done for us and where he (helped) get us, i think he ruined it for himself at the end.... that aside though should make it a very tense atmosphere at the reebok, and like youve pointed out should be a full house.. i'll be having a sleepless night on friday night with all the excitement..... hope we do the business against the geordie boyz otherwise ive been promised my name will be plastered all over the newcastle website because of all the grief ive give them over the past 2 months....
why eyy mann !!!!

BoltonAndy, Newcastle upon Tyne says...
1:49pm Thu 9 Aug 07

I was at St James park last night for their "Programme launch" and very interesting it was. Big Sam was there and he said while his players were desperate for a win on saturday they were nowhere near as desperate as he was. In fact,and I quote, " I want to stuff them out of sight"... to which the geordies cheered in approval. I just hope our players and staff know how much Big Sam is dying to "stuff us"!!

Trotter, Bolton says...
1:53pm Thu 9 Aug 07

BoltonAndy wrote:I just hope our players and staff know how much Big Sam is dying to "stuff us"!!

Not half as much as the Bolton fans want to do the same to his team eh?

Keep the faith

BWFC-TIL-I-DIE, BOLTON says...
1:55pm Thu 9 Aug 07

the poor fat lonely w4nk3r knows deep down that it just aint gonna happen...

rob, horwich says...
2:00pm Thu 9 Aug 07

Usuall story for FSA runnin to the press for cover, because he knows its a story he knows would be printed in todays or saturdays papers to stir enough bulls**t to make the bolton booboys think twice about a win on saturday afternoon thats all that is..... for that reason i'm glad the fat c**t has gone!!!!

Steve Battersby, Oldham says...
2:03pm Thu 9 Aug 07

Well there is no doubt we Bolton supporters fit firmly into two camps - the convinced and the unconvinced. This is quite natural as no two person's opinions will ever be the same on every subject and dialogue makes the world go round.
Me? Well, I'm probably at the optimistic outer edge of the unconvinced spectrum but regardless will be cheering the lads on for the 45th successive season. Those contributors who point out we've never had it so good are correct...and that is down mainly to Sam Allardyce. Like it or not lads many of us will applaud him on Saturday if given the chance (whilst of course hoping his new team are soundly thrashed).
My real concern though is not so much with the money paid out or the quality of the newcomers - Guthrie in particular I expect to be a revelation - wonder if Liverpool would accept £5m for him now?
My worry is that to succeed in The Premier League you must be able to defend well...Big Sam got that priority spot on. Now like many others I would like a bit more entertainment than last year and Little Sam appears to be going about providing us with that quite nicely. But Meite and Michalik are not up to the task as central defenders and need to be replaced. I know many of you don't rate Nicky Hunt but give the lad your backing on Saturday please. He's been our most assured defender in the friendlies (I've seen them all) and I'm sure if his confidence isn't ripped to shreds by a small but significant section of the crowd, he will do OK. So come on Little Sam, let's bolster that defence with a couple more, release Meite and Stelios to help fund the purchases and we will do OK, with a top ten finish in your first season as a manager not an impossibility.

PJ, Bolton says...
2:04pm Thu 9 Aug 07

BLOOMIN ECK!!!
I think i opened a can of worms...
Anyway i love you all hope to share a beer or 2 with ya all down at the Reebok. P.S. I'm considering buying shares so i can enjoy the benefits of us buyin cheaply lol

Pedro, Bolton says...
2:11pm Thu 9 Aug 07

Any comments on this quote from a Newcastle website??!!

And he admits he does not know what kind of reception the Bolton fans will give him at the Reebok Stadium.


The United boss added: "I am not so sure what kind of reception I will receive from the Wanderers supporters. Some will be supportive of me and what I did, and I suppose some will not be so supportive.


"But nobody down there will be able to point any fingers at me or question what I did for Bolton Wanderers."

rob, horwich says...
2:12pm Thu 9 Aug 07

PJ wrote:
BLOOMIN ECK!!! I think i opened a can of worms... Anyway i love you all hope to share a beer or 2 with ya all down at the Reebok. P.S. I'm considering buying shares so i can enjoy the benefits of us buyin cheaply lol
Do you go fishing by any chace P.J. we could use that can of worms you just opened and go fishing for some real high class big fish for a bargain, the ones that don't cut it we can just slice and dice them and sell it on a barm on match days and share the profits or buy an even bigger fish !!!

PJ, Bolton says...
2:14pm Thu 9 Aug 07

Sam did great things for our club. He let us down in the end.
There is no loyalty in the game anymore.

PJ, Bolton says...
2:16pm Thu 9 Aug 07

rob wrote:
PJ wrote: BLOOMIN ECK!!! I think i opened a can of worms... Anyway i love you all hope to share a beer or 2 with ya all down at the Reebok. P.S. I'm considering buying shares so i can enjoy the benefits of us buyin cheaply lol
Do you go fishing by any chace P.J. we could use that can of worms you just opened and go fishing for some real high class big fish for a bargain, the ones that don't cut it we can just slice and dice them and sell it on a barm on match days and share the profits or buy an even bigger fish !!!
haha!! I'm liking it!!!

rob, horwich says...
2:22pm Thu 9 Aug 07

PJ wrote:
Sam did great things for our club. He let us down in the end. There is no loyalty in the game anymore.
He did do some good things, gotta admit he did find some quality players whare no other manager in tne premiership thought to look at times, but like you say J.K. he let us all down right at the end, it was a shame he didn't go on to finish his full 10 year contract......
there after i hope this new reebok revolution is stong and unbreakable throughout the 60/70 games we may have to play this season !!!

Trotter, Bolton says...
2:31pm Thu 9 Aug 07

Phil Gartside commented:

"As for long-term ambition, success for Bolton Wanderes and Phil Gartside is to be in the Premier League for the next 50 years - to be at the forefront of football and influencing the game in England and Europe."
Good lad Phil Gartside, it is a good job he did not "up and leave" like dis loyal Allardyce.

Keep the Faith.

bez, chorley says...
2:33pm Thu 9 Aug 07

the football we played at the end was crap to say the least ,lets hope for a more attractive attacking style.

Trotter, Bolton says...
2:37pm Thu 9 Aug 07

Phil Gartside said:

But we still have to look at all aspects of our branding, so we've been asked questions like Am I a Trotter or a Wanderer?' and having been here since 1958, I can't really answer that. Am I up for the jump with this new company on board? ..... blimey.

Keep the faith (me)

bez, chorley says...
2:39pm Thu 9 Aug 07

gartsides on talksport this afternoon with ian wright so should be an interesting listen.

Trotter, Bolton says...
2:44pm Thu 9 Aug 07

bez wrote:
gartsides on talksport this afternoon with ian wright so should be an interesting listen.
What time bez and what channel?

Cheers

rob, horwich says...
2:46pm Thu 9 Aug 07

Trotter wrote:
Phil Gartside said: But we still have to look at all aspects of our branding, so we've been asked questions like Am I a Trotter or a Wanderer?' and having been here since 1958, I can't really answer that. Am I up for the jump with this new company on board? ..... blimey. Keep the faith (me)
we are just supporters to them these days i think trotter, shame i know but if its a change to get more butts on the seats at the reebok then i'm on board for that change, white men for top 7 finish..........

PEACE OUT WHITES
....................
..

Trotter, Bolton says...
2:53pm Thu 9 Aug 07

rob wrote:
Trotter wrote: Phil Gartside said: But we still have to look at all aspects of our branding, so we've been asked questions like Am I a Trotter or a Wanderer?' and having been here since 1958, I can't really answer that. Am I up for the jump with this new company on board? ..... blimey. Keep the faith (me)
we are just supporters to them these days i think trotter, shame i know but if its a change to get more butts on the seats at the reebok then i'm on board for that change, white men for top 7 finish.......... PEACE OUT WHITES .................... ..
Chill out rob, I was referring to my name (trotter) regarding the quote: am I a trotter or a wanderer.

Thanks for the concern rob and enjoy the season matey.

Keep the Faith

Trotter, Bolton says...
3:05pm Thu 9 Aug 07

Lawro's prediction:

Bolton v Newcastle


It had to happen that Newcastle boss Sam Allardyce would go back to former club Bolton for Sammy Lee's first game in charge.

I take Little Sammy's Bolton to edge this one but Big Sam will get it right and Newcastle will soon be much improved. We have still got the best part of three weeks until deadline day so there will still be a lot of comings and goings there.


Match preview
Prediction: 1-0


rob, horwich says...
3:06pm Thu 9 Aug 07

Will do defo dude !!! i must have got my wires crossed .......

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Chris Baron, Bolton says...
3:09pm Thu 9 Aug 07

I think the proof will be in the pudding , we have bought alot of stodge , McCann , Helguson are both Championship quality , Harsanyi and Guthrie not ready. It smacks of having no money , the swedish lad , Will someat" on loan , Alonso on loan. We are skint. We need investment!

jp cotton, heywood says...
3:11pm Thu 9 Aug 07

What a shambles, no decent players signed ambition forget it!

Paul1970, Fleetwood says...
3:14pm Thu 9 Aug 07

Sounds familiar, FSA not getting his way.

NEWCASTLE’S chairman Chris Mort has dismissed rumours of a rift with manager Sam Allardyce.Aug 9 2007




by Stuart Rayner, The Journal


The Magpies manager has made no secret of his frustration at United’s sluggish progress in the transfer market this summer after agreeing to join United in May on the assumption his days of having to wheel and deal on a shoestring budget – as was the case at Bolton – were behind him.

But since billionaire Mike Ashley bought former chairman Freddie Shepherd’s stake in the club weeks after Allardyce’s appointment, there has not been the massive cash injection many fans were expecting. That has prompted rumours of an uneasy relationship between Mort and the manager which the former has quashed. “Sam and I speak most days, if not every day,” he retorted yesterday evening. “This afternoon we sat down together for an hour or two and went through the squad and players we are looking to add. That work is continuing and we will carry on going forward. Our relationship is absolutely fine, we get on very well together.”

Mort also went on to explain the circumstances behind the collapse of West Ham United’s proposed £6m signing of Kieron Dyer, though he was coy when asked what the response would be if the Hammers or anyone else were to offer £8m for the versatile 28-year-old. “We got very uncomfortable with the way they (West Ham) were conducting negotiations and some of the things going on about the deal we wanted to change from our perspective,” explained Mort. “They were (then) not prepared to match the (increased £8m) valuation we put on him.”

Alan Curbishley has stated publicly he would not be back in for Dyer, who passed a medical with the East London club. Now the Hammers are believed to be lining up a £3.5m bid for Derby County midfielder Giles Barnes instead.

Curbishley has already had one bid for the 19-year-old son of former West Ham winger Bobby Barnes rejected but the Rams are braced for a renewed bid and if it succeeds then that particular escape route would seem closed for Dyer – who wants to leave Tyneside after being made a target for disgruntled fans. Meanwhile, Damien Duff believes Newcastle United are guaranteed a better season than last having witnessed first hand the way Allardyce has transformed the club since taking charge. The Magpies finished 13th in the 2006-07 Premiership and reached the quarter-finals of the Uefa Cup. United’s points tally of 43 was their lowest in the reconstituted top-flight.




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Manager Glenn Roeder paid the price when he was sacked in the final week of the season following fans’ protests after United’s last home game of the campaign and although the new man is yet to oversee his first competitive game – ironically that will come at the Reebok Stadium on Saturday – his impact as already been felt at Newcastle. And despite having been brought to Tyneside by Roeder last summer, Duff


recognises the change made by former chairman Freddie Shepherd was a necessary one.


“The club needed a fresh start,” said the former Blackburn Rovers and Chelsea winger. “Sam did a great job at Bolton and has come in here and sorted everything out, from top to bottom he’s changed things. He knows what the club needs and I think we will definitely improve on last year because of that.” Allardyce is renowned for the way he transformed Bolton’s physiotherapy department and unfortunately for the Republic of Ireland international he has seen a similar job carried out on Tyneside at close quarters as he recovers from an ankle operation this summer.


“Everyday I’m working my socks off to get back playing as soon as I can,” Duff said in an interview with the club’s official website.


“Everything has gone okay so far and hopefully it will continue to do so. Sam has changed things on the medical side so that’s excellent for me.”


FORMER United player Antoine Sibierski sees no reason why his new club Wigan cannot finish in the top 10 of the Premier League this season. It was a feat the Latics achieved on their top-flight debut in 2005-06, yet they were unable to repeat that last season and only avoided relegation with victory at Sheffield United on the final day.


With new manager Chris Hutchings at the helm following the shock departure of Paul Jewell immediately after he guided Wigan to survival, there are fears of another dogfight. Yet Sibierski, one of seven signings made by Hutchings over the summer, is confident the Latics can again defy the odds .


“The feeling in the camp is fantastic, as good as I’ve known in football,” said Sibierski, who joined on a free in June. “Everybody is really fired up and I seriously believe we can achieve a lot this season.”


boltonsno1fan, manchester says...
3:17pm Thu 9 Aug 07

ANY ONE IN THE BARNSTORMERS BEFORE THE GAME ON SAT?

rob, horwich says...
3:22pm Thu 9 Aug 07

Chris Baron wrote:
I think the proof will be in the pudding , we have bought alot of stodge , McCann , Helguson are both Championship quality , Harsanyi and Guthrie not ready. It smacks of having no money , the swedish lad , Will someat" on loan , Alonso on loan. We are skint. We need investment!
it's WILHELMSSON.....
GUTHRIE is the next STEVIE G........ and
ZOLTAN HARSANYI, hasn't even kicked a ball in the premiership yet, lets not judge him before he even kicks the ball in the back of the net, which he will one day, i think he'll be another RICARDO Vaz Te meself
ohh and alonso may sign for 3 yrs in january 2008, same with wilhemsson ....

PEACE OUT WHITE MEN

bez, chorley says...
3:24pm Thu 9 Aug 07

sorry trotter just been out its on 1089 medium wave or sky channel 0108 after 4 oclock they have been advertising it all day.as for the coming season i for one am looking forward to getting stuck into teams maybe we wont be so quick to lie down to man u etc (bsa mates)
come on u whites

Trotter, Bolton says...
3:31pm Thu 9 Aug 07

bez wrote:
sorry trotter just been out its on 1089 medium wave or sky channel 0108 after 4 oclock they have been advertising it all day.as for the coming season i for one am looking forward to getting stuck into teams maybe we wont be so quick to lie down to man u etc (bsa mates) come on u whites
Cheers bez, got the radio tuned in so I will be on the case at 4pm.

Enjoy the season bez.

Jon, Bolton says...
3:34pm Thu 9 Aug 07

Trotter can you summarise what he is saying on Talksport for all of us at work who can't listen?

bez, chorley says...
3:36pm Thu 9 Aug 07

cheers trotter same to you and all whites

Trotter, Bolton says...
3:44pm Thu 9 Aug 07

Jon wrote:
Trotter can you summarise what he is saying on Talksport for all of us at work who can't listen?
I will do Jon, keep the posts goin matey.

My reply depends what time Phil is on of course, you could be home having your tea by the time he comes on.

Keep the Faith

Jon, Bolton says...
3:47pm Thu 9 Aug 07

Trotter wrote:
Jon wrote: Trotter can you summarise what he is saying on Talksport for all of us at work who can't listen?
I will do Jon, keep the posts goin matey. My reply depends what time Phil is on of course, you could be home having your tea by the time he comes on. Keep the Faith
Aye I leave work at 5 so after that don't bother on my account!

Yesterday talksport had Simon Jordan on and he was on for 2 hours between 4 and 6!

bez, chorley says...
3:50pm Thu 9 Aug 07

yeah jon, simon jordan what a laugh we should think ourselves lucky i think

Trotter, Bolton says...
4:21pm Thu 9 Aug 07

Talk Sport:

First guest is a manyoo fan, zzzzzzzzz

Jon, Bolton says...
4:23pm Thu 9 Aug 07

Gartside not on yet then?

Trotter, Bolton says...
4:23pm Thu 9 Aug 07

Talk Sport:

Leicster fan: singin Roy Keane's praises and Derby to go straight down.

Trotter, Bolton says...
4:24pm Thu 9 Aug 07

Jon wrote:
Gartside not on yet then?
Be patient Jon

bez, chorley says...
4:25pm Thu 9 Aug 07

you have to listen to the glory hunters to get to the good stuff

Trotter, Bolton says...
4:25pm Thu 9 Aug 07

Talk Sport:

Arsenal fan: Looking forward to seeing Eduardio score 20 odd goals

Trotter, Bolton says...
4:28pm Thu 9 Aug 07

Talk Sport:

Shaun: Chelsea fan, looking forward to watchin subuetto football at Barcodes (high stands) and tasting their pies zzzzzzz

Pedro, Bolton says...
4:38pm Thu 9 Aug 07

BWFC site says Phil Gartside on between 6 and 6-30

Trotter, Bolton says...
4:41pm Thu 9 Aug 07

Talk Sport:

lots of blar blar blar, Phil should be on soon (hopefully)

Jon, Bolton says...
4:42pm Thu 9 Aug 07

Trotter apparently he is on at 6pm!

Trotter, Bolton says...
4:43pm Thu 9 Aug 07

Talk Sport:

Jon, I'm here til 5.15

Jon, Bolton says...
4:46pm Thu 9 Aug 07

Trotter yeah I should be able to catch it myself at 6!

Trotter, Bolton says...
4:50pm Thu 9 Aug 07

Talk Sport:

Jon

Correct they have just confirmed Phil is on at 6pm, you will be home then matey.

This is the last post regarding Talk Sport by me, sorry to jam up the thread lads & lasses.

Keep the faith

rob, horwich says...
7:35pm Thu 9 Aug 07

So did gartside have owt interesting to say on his talksport interview then guys ?

ohh and Danny Braaten has been cleared now, i wonder if we will see him for the last 15 mins on saturday.. Frogs still draggin there heals on Wilhelmsson though !!! Bloody french as usual......

Bolton Spartan, Bolton says...
7:48pm Thu 9 Aug 07

rumour bolton sign tevez

rob, horwich says...
7:52pm Thu 9 Aug 07

Bolton Spartan wrote:
rumour bolton sign tevez
now i know you are taking the p**s !!!!!

Jack wilson weymouth, Weymouth says...
1:27pm Sun 12 Aug 07

A Boltonian living in the southwest A O.A.P.
been around along time. You will see a lot o0f Bolton Wanderers in your nothern newspapers. Trying to find any thing of note in the south about my team is very scarce, yet our EX mamager is getting full coverage
Sam Allardyce is getting full one page coverage.
I must ask myself WHY

jay, bolton says...
6:54pm Mon 13 Aug 07

if the board wont spend more than 1million on a player after making so many millions on the new tv deals then sack the board and get someone in with some balls we dont want players here who couldnt cut it at clubs below us but we still sign them, sign quality Sammy or have you lost the plot? ANDY OBRIAN is not the sort of player we want here, or mccann, samuel or any other inferiar clubs cast offs!!! SORT IT or we do a Leeds utd!

Bolton Spartan, Bolton says...
10:34pm Wed 15 Aug 07

sign the get gartside out petieion www.bwfcthetrotters.
piczo.com

Jacko, Little Lever says...
11:39pm Mon 22 Oct 07

Yeh right Gartside!,you are taking this club down you tool!!!.

MARION, BOLTON says...
7:00pm Sun 28 Oct 07

Jacko wrote:
Yeh right Gartside!,you are taking this club down you tool!!!.
18000 attendance how far will Gartside go ???? He is bringing down what was a very good club with happy fans to nothing he appointed Gary Megson as new manager would not have been my choice as a lot of other fans all we can do now is give Megson a chance to prove himself!!! Its time for Gartside to get out big Sam would have stayed at the stadium only for him.
( Gartside ).We need somone who can instill some belief in the players that they can do good they need to believe in them selves and the fans need to believe in the players without this we might just as well throw in the towel Gartside HAS GOT TO GO. If the attendances go any lower than today how demoralising will that be for the players the players need our support so i am begging all you whites fans please get behind the players they need us.Gartside out your a pratt with a capital (P)we dont need you give somone who cares about the club a chance.:-(

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