parishner wrote:
give the guy a chance,ferguson was under the hammer fergy out,look what he went on to do,after

Son of Bolton Reader wrote:
and this from the BBC as well as CNN, Sky and even NOS in Holland....... "Gary Speed will offered a coaching role at Newcastle if he cannot sort out his differences with Bolton boss Sammy Lee." Also in this report who is the liar. I stand by the name I call LSL - Little Scouse Liar. He has to go for the sake of the club more than anything else. He is destroying moral, destroying 8 years worth of Bolton's gloroius history (although not the true golden age - that's back in the days of Super John, Trigger, Wide-man Lee et al), destoying Bolton's future. Even the most ardent backers of Lee have now got to admit the time is now to get rid of this little infestation!!! Next gamne it would be nice to see ALL the fans start shouting LOSER at LSL - what positives will he see from that??? Again in this report - "The supporters here have been terrific, absolutely fantastic in very trying circumstances. But it must be disconcerting for them to keep reading these things" - who is he trying to kid - himself??? AGain lying to the people who believe in the team and the club. LITTLE SCOUSE LIAR - OUT! OUT! OUT!

Jordan wrote:
we all know that playing and managing at the top level are two completly different things. Look at the likes of Kevin Keegan, John Barnes, John Aldridge... all failed to really make the cut...

parishner wrote:

Son of Bolton Reader wrote: and this from the BBC as well as CNN, Sky and even NOS in Holland....... "Gary Speed will offered a coaching role at Newcastle if he cannot sort out his differences with Bolton boss Sammy Lee." Also in this report who is the liar. I stand by the name I call LSL - Little Scouse Liar. He has to go for the sake of the club more than anything else. He is destroying moral, destroying 8 years worth of Bolton's gloroius history (although not the true golden age - that's back in the days of Super John, Trigger, Wide-man Lee et al), destoying Bolton's future. Even the most ardent backers of Lee have now got to admit the time is now to get rid of this little infestation!!! Next gamne it would be nice to see ALL the fans start shouting LOSER at LSL - what positives will he see from that??? Again in this report - "The supporters here have been terrific, absolutely fantastic in very trying circumstances. But it must be disconcerting for them to keep reading these things" - who is he trying to kid - himself??? AGain lying to the people who believe in the team and the club. LITTLE SCOUSE LIAR - OUT! OUT! OUT!

tell your in the dam close your windows your breathing the fumes,head in bolton or heart in the toon with bunker man,a bit like i need an holiday and a rest from football,spend time with my family lol two days later is with that tossser sheperd we are **** newcastle

parishner wrote:

Jordan wrote: we all know that playing and managing at the top level are two completly different things. Look at the likes of Kevin Keegan, John Barnes, John Aldridge... all failed to really make the cut...

dont need paul jewel then

rivington3 wrote:
I don't know enough to comment about who would be the best manager - at the moment it looks like we just need anyone who won't start a fight in an empty house and shows respect to his team

Son of Bolton Reader wrote:
I still believe we should bring Browny back to the club as Manager - at least he has a presence and also commands respect to both players and fans. He knows the club, he knows how the team should play, he trained with Big Sam and only moved away to gain managerial experience in the lower leagues, just like Big Sam (remember even Big Sam failed in his first amagerial post and was very much middle of the road man until he came back to Bolton!!!)

blue wrote:
Can Gary Speed show Samy Lee his Euopean CUp medals, does he come close? No. Give Sammy time, he made a bold and welcome if somewhat overdue decision at the weekend and but for a bit of luck, would have got us a great result. We all saw how Gutherie shone, McCann ran, Campo his usual ellubiant self. The fact we didn't offer silly money to that clown that went to wigan etc shows the club is still being ran along the lines of making sure we don't do a Leeds which is fine by me. At Liverpool Bill Shankly's assistant stepped up to become arguably the most successful coach in English football. It is true Fergie was one game away from the sack, its a marathon, not a sprint, and with transfer window not til Jan, may as well see out Oct/Nov with Lee, and if things no better come Dec 1st bring in someone else. On a seperate note saw on an Everton forum that one of them is on my flight from Manchester to Munich as they in Nuremburg same night...me thinks it certainly will be a lovely night.

Jordan wrote:

Son of Bolton Reader wrote: I still believe we should bring Browny back to the club as Manager - at least he has a presence and also commands respect to both players and fans. He knows the club, he knows how the team should play, he trained with Big Sam and only moved away to gain managerial experience in the lower leagues, just like Big Sam (remember even Big Sam failed in his first amagerial post and was very much middle of the road man until he came back to Bolton!!!)

would we be able to tempt him now that he's with Hull and they have bags of money?

Son of Bolton Reader wrote:

blue wrote: Can Gary Speed show Samy Lee his Euopean CUp medals, does he come close? No. Give Sammy time, he made a bold and welcome if somewhat overdue decision at the weekend and but for a bit of luck, would have got us a great result. We all saw how Gutherie shone, McCann ran, Campo his usual ellubiant self. The fact we didn't offer silly money to that clown that went to wigan etc shows the club is still being ran along the lines of making sure we don't do a Leeds which is fine by me. At Liverpool Bill Shankly's assistant stepped up to become arguably the most successful coach in English football. It is true Fergie was one game away from the sack, its a marathon, not a sprint, and with transfer window not til Jan, may as well see out Oct/Nov with Lee, and if things no better come Dec 1st bring in someone else. On a seperate note saw on an Everton forum that one of them is on my flight from Manchester to Munich as they in Nuremburg same night...me thinks it certainly will be a lovely night.

Yes but statistics show that even Fergie, in his first few games at ManU still faired far superior to Sammy Lee has done - but there again, Fergie did have the respect of the players and backroom with no squabbles whatsoever - unlike Sammy Lee who seems all out in destroying the club!

Jordan wrote:

parishner wrote:

Jordan wrote: we all know that playing and managing at the top level are two completly different things. Look at the likes of Kevin Keegan, John Barnes, John Aldridge... all failed to really make the cut...

dont need paul jewel then

i personally dont think paul jewell is the right man... i maybe wrong but i think his approach is too conventional for the set up we have... Arsne Wenger would do ;)

Son of Bolton Reader wrote:

blue wrote: Can Gary Speed show Samy Lee his Euopean CUp medals, does he come close? No. Give Sammy time, he made a bold and welcome if somewhat overdue decision at the weekend and but for a bit of luck, would have got us a great result. We all saw how Gutherie shone, McCann ran, Campo his usual ellubiant self. The fact we didn't offer silly money to that clown that went to wigan etc shows the club is still being ran along the lines of making sure we don't do a Leeds which is fine by me. At Liverpool Bill Shankly's assistant stepped up to become arguably the most successful coach in English football. It is true Fergie was one game away from the sack, its a marathon, not a sprint, and with transfer window not til Jan, may as well see out Oct/Nov with Lee, and if things no better come Dec 1st bring in someone else. On a seperate note saw on an Everton forum that one of them is on my flight from Manchester to Munich as they in Nuremburg same night...me thinks it certainly will be a lovely night.

Yes but statistics show that even Fergie, in his first few games at ManU still faired far superior to Sammy Lee has done - but there again, Fergie did have the respect of the players and backroom with no squabbles whatsoever - unlike Sammy Lee who seems all out in destroying the club!

parishner wrote:

Jordan wrote:

parishner wrote:

Jordan wrote: we all know that playing and managing at the top level are two completly different things. Look at the likes of Kevin Keegan, John Barnes, John Aldridge... all failed to really make the cut...

dont need paul jewel then

i personally dont think paul jewell is the right man... i maybe wrong but i think his approach is too conventional for the set up we have... Arsne Wenger would do ;)

gitside will pay for a wenger get real,alreadey installed cheapeast option just like mclaren for england,next youl be saying sighn ronaldhino

Jordan wrote:

parishner wrote:

Jordan wrote: we all know that playing and managing at the top level are two completly different things. Look at the likes of Kevin Keegan, John Barnes, John Aldridge... all failed to really make the cut...

dont need paul jewel then

i personally dont think paul jewell is the right man... i maybe wrong but i think his approach is too conventional for the set up we have... Arsne Wenger would do ;)

blue wrote:
Hang on, why did these players not have a problem with Lee as a coach, they seemed to thrive then? I would remember players are mercenaries that are always on the look out for more moeny at a bigger club, taking over BWFC with the decline that had set in was a brave move. Support. Its the fans staying away and getting on his back so soon (when he was appointed it started) that are destroying the club. The players pick up on this and it gives them leverage to pursue their own aims. West Ham stayed up because every single one of them got behind the new manager and always believed. I'm ashamed to say half the Bolton support had it in for Lee from the start, and thus contributed to this whole poisonous atmosphere in the club. Your as much to blame if we go down, in my eyes anyway. When did it become open season on Sammy, and did anyone forget that Sam couldn't hardly win a Bolton game this year???

Jordan wrote:

parishner wrote:

Jordan wrote:

parishner wrote:

Jordan wrote: we all know that playing and managing at the top level are two completly different things. Look at the likes of Kevin Keegan, John Barnes, John Aldridge... all failed to really make the cut...

dont need paul jewel then

i personally dont think paul jewell is the right man... i maybe wrong but i think his approach is too conventional for the set up we have... Arsne Wenger would do ;)

gitside will pay for a wenger get real,alreadey installed cheapeast option just like mclaren for england,next youl be saying sighn ronaldhino

it was a joke...

parishner wrote:

Jordan wrote:

parishner wrote:

Jordan wrote: we all know that playing and managing at the top level are two completly different things. Look at the likes of Kevin Keegan, John Barnes, John Aldridge... all failed to really make the cut...

dont need paul jewel then

i personally dont think paul jewell is the right man... i maybe wrong but i think his approach is too conventional for the set up we have... Arsne Wenger would do ;)

gitside will pay for a wenger get real,alreadey installed cheapeast option just like mclaren for england,next youl be saying sighn ronaldhino

Jon wrote:

Son of Bolton Reader wrote:

blue wrote: Can Gary Speed show Samy Lee his Euopean CUp medals, does he come close? No. Give Sammy time, he made a bold and welcome if somewhat overdue decision at the weekend and but for a bit of luck, would have got us a great result. We all saw how Gutherie shone, McCann ran, Campo his usual ellubiant self. The fact we didn't offer silly money to that clown that went to wigan etc shows the club is still being ran along the lines of making sure we don't do a Leeds which is fine by me. At Liverpool Bill Shankly's assistant stepped up to become arguably the most successful coach in English football. It is true Fergie was one game away from the sack, its a marathon, not a sprint, and with transfer window not til Jan, may as well see out Oct/Nov with Lee, and if things no better come Dec 1st bring in someone else. On a seperate note saw on an Everton forum that one of them is on my flight from Manchester to Munich as they in Nuremburg same night...me thinks it certainly will be a lovely night.

Yes but statistics show that even Fergie, in his first few games at ManU still faired far superior to Sammy Lee has done - but there again, Fergie did have the respect of the players and backroom with no squabbles whatsoever - unlike Sammy Lee who seems all out in destroying the club!

What rubbish, Fergie had as much trouble as Lee is having now. Why would this be any different with another manager? Its not respect thats the problem its that some players have had an easy ride with no competition for their places yet now they aren't guaranteed a game. Lee is trying to radically shake things up and in the long term this could be of massive benefit to the club.

Steve Battersby wrote:
When you get to my age - 51 - and have seen people become managers in whatever industry, you quickly get a feel for whether they can cut the mustard or not. Whilst I don't see what is going on at The Reebok on a daily basis, I am told that there is widespread discontent amongst playing and non-playing staff. This, of course, may or may not be the case. In truth, only those who are employed there actually know and some of those making remarks to 'outsiders' may well have their own agendas. The only individuals who can really sort the situation out are, therefore, the Board. They, as stewards of our club, have a commercial and moral duty to ascertain the true facts - I would hope they already know these - and act in the best interests of the club going forward. All indicators point seemingly to a need to review the manager's position immediately and perhaps make a change now rather than leave some of the apparent problems to fester and spread. We must place our trust in them and hope they make the correct decision. I was deeply disappointed with the way in which Big Sam's departure was handled in public and feel that a big PR mistake was made in some of the criticisms levelled unfairly against him. I also cannot believe that Gary Speed does not have the best interests of this club at heart - he is the archetypal model professional and a credit to the game. So Messrs Gartside and Davies along with their other colleagues need now to act, even if that act is to verbally lend support to Sammy Lee in the short term. Supporters need to know that there is a firm hand on the rudder as we sail through choppy waters and the major concern of us all is that we seem to be floating helplessly into the eye of the storm.

parishner wrote:

Son of Bolton Reader wrote:

blue wrote: Can Gary Speed show Samy Lee his Euopean CUp medals, does he come close? No. Give Sammy time, he made a bold and welcome if somewhat overdue decision at the weekend and but for a bit of luck, would have got us a great result. We all saw how Gutherie shone, McCann ran, Campo his usual ellubiant self. The fact we didn't offer silly money to that clown that went to wigan etc shows the club is still being ran along the lines of making sure we don't do a Leeds which is fine by me. At Liverpool Bill Shankly's assistant stepped up to become arguably the most successful coach in English football. It is true Fergie was one game away from the sack, its a marathon, not a sprint, and with transfer window not til Jan, may as well see out Oct/Nov with Lee, and if things no better come Dec 1st bring in someone else. On a seperate note saw on an Everton forum that one of them is on my flight from Manchester to Munich as they in Nuremburg same night...me thinks it certainly will be a lovely night.

Yes but statistics show that even Fergie, in his first few games at ManU still faired far superior to Sammy Lee has done - but there again, Fergie did have the respect of the players and backroom with no squabbles whatsoever - unlike Sammy Lee who seems all out in destroying the club!

no squabbles got rid of norman whiteside paul mgrath,shown the door to vannistleroy jap stam paul ince,bryan kidd............told you no ones bigger than the club the gaffers the gaffer,

Sammy deserves the chance over a run of games.

We need 40 points to survive a drop - That's an average of 1.05 points per game. We should give Sammy 10 games That's 11 points to get survival form. Portsmouth, Reading, Bham and Derby are winnable; Everton & Spurs are Drawable at least. That's 14 points in total.

If we have 14 points Sammy is doing a great job. If we get 11, he is just satisfactory. Any less, I'm sorry he will have to go

Durks wrote:
I worked for a Bolton company for many years and it was superb. The business was taken over in 99 and the new management applied their methods which were very different to what everyone was used to. Any personnel who did not adjust quickly were released. Individuals were dropped from key roles which resulted in anger and frustration and resignations and in 2003 the business was finished resulting in the loss of many Bolton jobs. I can see many parallels with Wanderers because highly paid footballers are no different to any of us and we do not like change that is forced on us. Sorry if this is a bit deep but new management that has little credibility in the football world forcing changes when people like Campo, Speed and Nolan are clearly resisting it and wish to work the big Sam way will eat away at the teams ability to perform as it will impact on the new players that have come in.

Son of Bolton Reader wrote:

Jon wrote:

Son of Bolton Reader wrote:

blue wrote: Can Gary Speed show Samy Lee his Euopean CUp medals, does he come close? No. Give Sammy time, he made a bold and welcome if somewhat overdue decision at the weekend and but for a bit of luck, would have got us a great result. We all saw how Gutherie shone, McCann ran, Campo his usual ellubiant self. The fact we didn't offer silly money to that clown that went to wigan etc shows the club is still being ran along the lines of making sure we don't do a Leeds which is fine by me. At Liverpool Bill Shankly's assistant stepped up to become arguably the most successful coach in English football. It is true Fergie was one game away from the sack, its a marathon, not a sprint, and with transfer window not til Jan, may as well see out Oct/Nov with Lee, and if things no better come Dec 1st bring in someone else. On a seperate note saw on an Everton forum that one of them is on my flight from Manchester to Munich as they in Nuremburg same night...me thinks it certainly will be a lovely night.

Yes but statistics show that even Fergie, in his first few games at ManU still faired far superior to Sammy Lee has done - but there again, Fergie did have the respect of the players and backroom with no squabbles whatsoever - unlike Sammy Lee who seems all out in destroying the club!

What rubbish, Fergie had as much trouble as Lee is having now. Why would this be any different with another manager? Its not respect thats the problem its that some players have had an easy ride with no competition for their places yet now they aren't guaranteed a game. Lee is trying to radically shake things up and in the long term this could be of massive benefit to the club.

What rubbish I hear you cry - the stats are easy enough to find on the web, but here goes... Bolton under Sammy Lee Played (all competitions - excluding Pre-season friendlies)12 - won 3 drew 3 lost 6 goals for 13 goals against 16 (-3) Points in League 5 Manchester under Fergie (same number of first games as manager in all competitions - excluding Pre-season friendslies) Played 12 Won 6, drew 2, lost 4 goals for 21 goals against 14 (+7) Points in League 23

gazz_ball - Supera Moras! wrote:
"Played 12 Won 6, drew 2, lost 4 goals for 21 goals against 14 (+7) Points in League 23" Doesn't add up, 23 points from 6 wins and 2 draws

Peter wrote:

gazz_ball - Supera Moras! wrote: "Played 12 Won 6, drew 2, lost 4 goals for 21 goals against 14 (+7) Points in League 23" Doesn't add up, 23 points from 6 wins and 2 draws

Gazz, I mean 10 prem games this season, not sammys record over all - Cup comps don't count when you are 19th in the league

Joe Neill wrote:
Stop in Amsterdam with all the other pervs. P.S go to L'pool and open your mouth

Son of Bolton Reader wrote:

Joe Neill wrote: Stop in Amsterdam with all the other pervs. P.S go to L'pool and open your mouth

Shows that you have never been to Amsterdam - the financial hub of Europe - puts Canary Wharf to shame!!!! Plus money and benefits are far superior to what ones gets in UK - 39 days holiday plus public holidays, maximum 47 hours a week no matter what!!!!, 13 month pay packet (an d I don't mean annual salary spread across 13 pay packets either, 8% holiday pay, tax return on mortage - in other words on a mortgage of EUR700 one gets back EUR250 each month from the gvt whether single or not!!!!! Now tell me I'm only here because I'm a perv?? Shows how little interested in Bolton you are actually are. Are you a BWF supporter in only Premeriship alone. Have you ever been to a division 4 game? ahve you ever been to the ground where a supermarket was situated in part of it? Life long Bolton fan and what LSL is doing is a complete disgrace. Get rid of the Scouse scum now!!!

run rabbit run wrote:
I can not believe the spin i am reading on this forum today.

We have people saying that Speed's demotion is a good thing. When a model professional, who never speaks out of turn, trains the right way, plays his heart out (ok yes, his legs do seem to have gone under the current regime), then gets demoted, you know something rum is going on behind the scenes.

And those thinking this is tough love, does that extend to Sragbria, Campo, Teymourian etc? Does the Speed situation sum up exactly what is unfolding before our eyes?

Then of course you have Jon 'rubbish, piffle, boulderdash, excrement, wrong wrong wrong' who has to disagree with his own shadow. Always popping up with the Fergie analogy. Fergie's record at manure was far better than lsl at the same stage. Plus, please remember, he already had European and league success at Aberdeen. In other words he had a track record. LSL doesn't even have that (managerial) with a pub team.

You supposed 'true' fans will have the club you deserve, one bereft of decent players playing in the lower leagues.

I feel us 'whingers and moaners'are true fans as we see the writing on the wall and want decisive action now.

Peter wrote:

Son of Bolton Reader wrote:

Joe Neill wrote: Stop in Amsterdam with all the other pervs. P.S go to L'pool and open your mouth

Shows that you have never been to Amsterdam - the financial hub of Europe - puts Canary Wharf to shame!!!! Plus money and benefits are far superior to what ones gets in UK - 39 days holiday plus public holidays, maximum 47 hours a week no matter what!!!!, 13 month pay packet (an d I don't mean annual salary spread across 13 pay packets either, 8% holiday pay, tax return on mortage - in other words on a mortgage of EUR700 one gets back EUR250 each month from the gvt whether single or not!!!!! Now tell me I'm only here because I'm a perv?? Shows how little interested in Bolton you are actually are. Are you a BWF supporter in only Premeriship alone. Have you ever been to a division 4 game? ahve you ever been to the ground where a supermarket was situated in part of it? Life long Bolton fan and what LSL is doing is a complete disgrace. Get rid of the Scouse scum now!!!

I worked in Amsterdam, It's great city. The Damrak area if for tourists. However, I disagree with your personal attacks on Sammy because he is from Liverpool. It dilutes your argument. Sammy Lee is just not up to the job he has been given, simple as that.

Andy wrote:
Is this the same Bolton Wanderers everybody would follow to the ends of the earth yesterday when the Bayern Munich trip was fresh in the mind? It is too soon for Speed to be taking on a coaching role at a Premiership club. He should restrict his coaching work to that he does in Wrexham until his playing days are over.

Andy wrote:
Is this the same Bolton Wanderers everybody would follow to the ends of the earth yesterday when the Bayern Munich trip was fresh in the mind? It is too soon for Speed to be taking on a coaching role at a Premiership club. He should restrict his coaching work to that he does in Wrexham until his playing days are over.

bwfc season ticket holder wrote:
as every 1 knows we need a manager with bolton at heart there are only 2 real people for me thats PHIL SUNBED BROWN & SUPER JOHN MCGINLEY maybe just maybe ALAN TOMMO THOMPSON could have a place at bolton

smithy wrote:
i wonder if lsl is being payed by liverpool to take us down.

Julie Moores wrote:
Get rid now Gartside. It is a great shame that fans of the club, as I know we all are on here, are constantly sniping and falling out with each other. There are those who will blindly follow BWFC whatever decisions are made, wherever it leads. I have no problem with them, they will never change regardless of any arguement. That is fine by me, so long as they support the club, I respect them. Apathy is what kills a club, when no one can be bothered to come on here. In the other camp, including myself, are those that strongly believe he was the wrong man and does not have the ability to turn things round. It is sad that after the Bayern draw when we should all be together, that this mans appointment is tearing us apart.

parishner wrote:
give the guy a chance,ferguson was under the hammer fergy out,look what he went on to do,after

Julie Moores wrote:
gazz, grow up and stop being such a wuss. Why do you always think people are " having a go " at you if they have a different opinion? I come on here for some BWFC chat with fellow fans, bit of banter, share opinions and believe me gazz, I get far more abuse than you ever do, so no need for the hurt little boy act. Trouble is, you never say whether you agree or disagree with those looking for change, just have a swipe about some technical issue- number of points wrong or something equally trivial.Of course Bolton fans can change things, never underestimate the power of fan protest on sites like this.

parishner wrote:
life after sam,BORING DRAWS LAST MINUTE GOALS,SChOOLBOY ERRORS,chealsea game played,football looked too good to go down

Julie Moores wrote:
gazz, going back to your earlier comments, I think you are probably not alone in thinking fondly of our Div 1 days. We were nearly always near the top, scored plenty goals- was it 100 in a season, think Jamie Pollock scored it against Tranmere perhaps, and they were exciting times. But having got to the Prem, I want to stay. Im not happy for a trainee to experiment on my club any longer, we need someone of substance to revive us. There are too many Bradfords, Coventry, Southampton to allow complacency to set in. See, I do think about what you say.

Jon wrote:

Son of Bolton Reader wrote:

blue wrote: Can Gary Speed show Samy Lee his Euopean CUp medals, does he come close? No. Give Sammy time, he made a bold and welcome if somewhat overdue decision at the weekend and but for a bit of luck, would have got us a great result. We all saw how Gutherie shone, McCann ran, Campo his usual ellubiant self. The fact we didn't offer silly money to that clown that went to wigan etc shows the club is still being ran along the lines of making sure we don't do a Leeds which is fine by me. At Liverpool Bill Shankly's assistant stepped up to become arguably the most successful coach in English football. It is true Fergie was one game away from the sack, its a marathon, not a sprint, and with transfer window not til Jan, may as well see out Oct/Nov with Lee, and if things no better come Dec 1st bring in someone else. On a seperate note saw on an Everton forum that one of them is on my flight from Manchester to Munich as they in Nuremburg same night...me thinks it certainly will be a lovely night.

Yes but statistics show that even Fergie, in his first few games at ManU still faired far superior to Sammy Lee has done - but there again, Fergie did have the respect of the players and backroom with no squabbles whatsoever - unlike Sammy Lee who seems all out in destroying the club!

What rubbish, Fergie had as much trouble as Lee is having now.

Why would this be any different with another manager?

Its not respect thats the problem its that some players have had an easy ride with no competition for their places yet now they aren't guaranteed a game.

Lee is trying to radically shake things up and in the long term this could be of massive benefit to the club.

CITY TILL I DIE wrote:
Bolton are finally going back to where they belong - the Championship making way for clubs with a bit more history like Derby & Sunderland. Last season when we played at the plastic Reebok I really had my eyes opened to the quality of the Bolton public - not good, i think the word Chav was invented to represent you lot. Leeds Mark II

CITY TILL I DIE wrote:
Bolton are finally going back to where they belong - the Championship making way for clubs with a bit more history like Derby & Sunderland. Last season when we played at the plastic Reebok I really had my eyes opened to the quality of the Bolton public - not good, i think the word Chav was invented to represent you lot. Leeds Mark II

Julie Moores wrote:
gazz, going back to your earlier comments, I think you are probably not alone in thinking fondly of our Div 1 days. We were nearly always near the top, scored plenty goals- was it 100 in a season, think Jamie Pollock scored it against Tranmere perhaps, and they were exciting times. But having got to the Prem, I want to stay. Im not happy for a trainee to experiment on my club any longer, we need someone of substance to revive us. There are too many Bradfords, Coventry, Southampton to allow complacency to set in. See, I do think about what you say.

CITY TILL I DIE wrote:
Bolton are finally going back to where they belong - the Championship making way for clubs with a bit more history like Derby & Sunderland. Last season when we played at the plastic Reebok I really had my eyes opened to the quality of the Bolton public - not good, i think the word Chav was invented to represent you lot. Leeds Mark II

CITY TILL I DIE wrote:
Bolton are finally going back to where they belong - the Championship making way for clubs with a bit more history like Derby & Sunderland.

Last season when we played at the plastic Reebok I really had my eyes opened to the quality of the Bolton public - not good, i think the word Chav was invented to represent you lot.

Leeds Mark II

CITY TILL I DIE wrote:
Bolton are finally going back to where they belong - the Championship making way for clubs with a bit more history like Derby & Sunderland. Last season when we played at the plastic Reebok I really had my eyes opened to the quality of the Bolton public - not good, i think the word Chav was invented to represent you lot. Leeds Mark II

Son of Bolton Reader wrote:

CITY TILL I DIE wrote: Bolton are finally going back to where they belong - the Championship making way for clubs with a bit more history like Derby & Sunderland. Last season when we played at the plastic Reebok I really had my eyes opened to the quality of the Bolton public - not good, i think the word Chav was invented to represent you lot. Leeds Mark II

Hmm let me think I can't remember City being one of the 12 original clubs to first start the world first Football League like Bolton was!!!!!! Also hasn't Bolton spent more than half of its history in top flight football - more than the clubs you mentioned. You certainly need a lesson in English Football League history before making far reaching comments like that!!! Oh and btw only a couple more months before City does the usual and start losing the rest of the games!!! How much more history do you need

blue wrote:
Can Gary Speed show Samy Lee his Euopean CUp medals, does he come close? No. Give Sammy time, he made a bold and welcome if somewhat overdue decision at the weekend and but for a bit of luck, would have got us a great result. We all saw how Gutherie shone, McCann ran, Campo his usual ellubiant self. The fact we didn't offer silly money to that clown that went to wigan etc shows the club is still being ran along the lines of making sure we don't do a Leeds which is fine by me. At Liverpool Bill Shankly's assistant stepped up to become arguably the most successful coach in English football. It is true Fergie was one game away from the sack, its a marathon, not a sprint, and with transfer window not til Jan, may as well see out Oct/Nov with Lee, and if things no better come Dec 1st bring in someone else. On a seperate note saw on an Everton forum that one of them is on my flight from Manchester to Munich as they in Nuremburg same night...me thinks it certainly will be a lovely night.

CITY TILL I DIE wrote:
Bolton + Big Sam = Something Bolton - Big Sam = Nothing
Fester away loosers .

CITY TILL I DIE wrote:

Son of Bolton Reader wrote:

CITY TILL I DIE wrote: Bolton are finally going back to where they belong - the Championship making way for clubs with a bit more history like Derby & Sunderland. Last season when we played at the plastic Reebok I really had my eyes opened to the quality of the Bolton public - not good, i think the word Chav was invented to represent you lot. Leeds Mark II

Hmm let me think I can't remember City being one of the 12 original clubs to first start the world first Football League like Bolton was!!!!!! Also hasn't Bolton spent more than half of its history in top flight football - more than the clubs you mentioned. You certainly need a lesson in English Football League history before making far reaching comments like that!!! Oh and btw only a couple more months before City does the usual and start losing the rest of the games!!! How much more history do you need

Still a bunch of North MANCHESTER chavs

superjohn wrote:

CITY TILL I DIE wrote: Bolton + Big Sam = Something Bolton - Big Sam = Nothing Fester away loosers .

You can't even spell losers mate, which as a City fan is surprising. You may have money now but you'll always be Man City, an old tart with a pair of diamond earrings, mutton dressed as lamb.

run rabbit run wrote:
Trotter, you don't half talk rubbish. Medals and supposed experience count for nothing in management, in fact playing football and managing are mutually exclusive. Our world is imploding around us and you write with all the passion of a German sex manual. See no evil, speak no evil, hear no evil. That is you.

run rabbit run wrote:
Trotter, you don't half talk rubbish. Medals and supposed experience count for nothing in management, in fact playing football and managing are mutually exclusive. Our world is imploding around us and you write with all the passion of a German sex manual. See no evil, speak no evil, hear no evil. That is you.

Trotter wrote:
Good lad Den - totally agree, blue also makes very good bwfc supporter type comments and I reckon that the majority on here have all got bwfc at heart and know what the word supporter stands for, the gazz's BWFC-TIL-I-DIE and Pedro's of this world is what makes bwfc - keep it up lads

Keep the faith

Den wrote:
Firstly i aint going to copy in previous posts! sick of paging down to the bottom.... Lee is the manager and what he says goes, albeit my own personal view he has got it wrong on more than one occasion. Not sure what City till i die is on here for? to post inaccurate ramblings? ...I remember SGE saying that his latest signing was v happy to be playing for Man Utd! so we know where his heart lies.....besides the writing is on the wall re: yr clubs money/owner/arrest warrants etc etc.... Any club that changes manager and the amount of players that we have, will encounter problems...but i do feel we played ok against Chelsea/Spurs (obviously Reading)...and happy that so called auto selection players (Nolan) are being dropped! all for it..... I also think the likes of Andy O'brien and Gutherie are great 'positives'....As is lowering the overall age of the squad... On the issue of sacking Lee, not sure who we would (or who would come) install as a new Manager? and this process would only add to the overall lack of confidence/passion (call it what you will) at BWFC.... If we play like we did against Chelsea etc we should be ok...and if LEE puts a number of under-performing 'noses' out am all for it..........But if HE himself 'under performs' then he also should be subject to the same treatment...... Finally I Do think that there are a number of players/staff whom have NO PASSION whatsoever for our beloved White shirt...

Trotter wrote:

run rabbit run wrote: Trotter, you don't half talk rubbish. Medals and supposed experience count for nothing in management, in fact playing football and managing are mutually exclusive. Our world is imploding around us and you write with all the passion of a German sex manual. See no evil, speak no evil, hear no evil. That is you.

That's rich coming from you matey, just read your posts ........ ha ha ha ha

superjohn wrote:

CITY TILL I DIE wrote: Bolton + Big Sam = Something Bolton - Big Sam = Nothing Fester away loosers .

You can't even spell losers mate, which as a City fan is surprising. You may have money now but you'll always be Man City, an old tart with a pair of diamond earrings, mutton dressed as lamb.

Den wrote:
Firstly i aint going to copy in previous posts! sick of paging down to the bottom.... Lee is the manager and what he says goes, albeit my own personal view he has got it wrong on more than one occasion. Not sure what City till i die is on here for? to post inaccurate ramblings? ...I remember SGE saying that his latest signing was v happy to be playing for Man Utd! so we know where his heart lies.....besides the writing is on the wall re: yr clubs money/owner/arrest warrants etc etc.... Any club that changes manager and the amount of players that we have, will encounter problems...but i do feel we played ok against Chelsea/Spurs (obviously Reading)...and happy that so called auto selection players (Nolan) are being dropped! all for it..... I also think the likes of Andy O'brien and Gutherie are great 'positives'....As is lowering the overall age of the squad... On the issue of sacking Lee, not sure who we would (or who would come) install as a new Manager? and this process would only add to the overall lack of confidence/passion (call it what you will) at BWFC.... If we play like we did against Chelsea etc we should be ok...and if LEE puts a number of under-performing 'noses' out am all for it..........But if HE himself 'under performs' then he also should be subject to the same treatment...... Finally I Do think that there are a number of players/staff whom have NO PASSION whatsoever for our beloved White shirt...

Den wrote:
Hi C! always do.....so bet yr dead chuffed about Wanderers coming to Munich?? D

munich boltonian wrote:

Den wrote: Hi C! always do.....so bet yr dead chuffed about Wanderers coming to Munich?? D

tellin me i´m sending the club all the info over bayern that i know my husband aint too chuffed him being a bayern fan but i´ve to think on wanderers first they are the only ones that count

Den wrote:

munich boltonian wrote:

Den wrote: Hi C! always do.....so bet yr dead chuffed about Wanderers coming to Munich?? D

tellin me i´m sending the club all the info over bayern that i know my husband aint too chuffed him being a bayern fan but i´ve to think on wanderers first they are the only ones that count

yeah.... should be a memorable game...WE ALL NEED TO BE UP FOR IT.....Including Gartside!! flying out early from M/cr via Frankfurt...with Luftwaffe..with some mates from horwich (went to Besiktas/Marseille with).... I'll have to brush up my deutsch then.....

notlob wrote:
TROTTER THE LAST MAN TO HOLD ALL THE MEDALS LEE HAS WAS PHIL NEAL ENOUGH SAID.

notlob wrote:
TROTTER THE LAST MAN TO HOLD ALL THE MEDALS LEE HAS WAS PHIL NEAL ENOUGH SAID.

blue wrote:
I'd suggest we all meet for a drink in Munich but chances are there'd be punches thrown within minutes. Despite him not playing anyone going to be campo wigging it? I'm right in thinking its gonna be bloody cold aren't I?

sparx wrote:
Bolton are in debt to the tune of about £40 million and the stadium is just over 2/3 full that adds up to a club heading downwards

sparx wrote:
Bolton are in debt to the tune of about £40 million and the stadium is just over 2/3 full that adds up to a club heading downwards

Jordan wrote:

sparx wrote: Bolton are in debt to the tune of about £40 million and the stadium is just over 2/3 full that adds up to a club heading downwards

its a good point... but seeing as the manager hasnt had much money to play with, is the extra millions we get from the TV money this year going to wipe out much of the debt?? or will it be lining pockets in the executive box??

Jordan wrote:

sparx wrote: Bolton are in debt to the tune of about £40 million and the stadium is just over 2/3 full that adds up to a club heading downwards

its a good point... but seeing as the manager hasnt had much money to play with, is the extra millions we get from the TV money this year going to wipe out much of the debt?? or will it be lining pockets in the executive box??

Brownie wrote:
General manager (Mc Parland) of BWFC is coming to BWSA's social evening tonight from 8.40pm in the Platinum Suite at the Reebok. Why not go along and ask him what's going on and what's the true account between LSL and Speedo! Log onto www.BWSAonline.net for details.

Brownie wrote:
General manager (Mc Parland) of BWFC is coming to BWSA's social evening tonight from 8.40pm in the Platinum Suite at the Reebok. Why not go along and ask him what's going on and what's the true account between LSL and Speedo! Log onto www.BWSAonline.net for details.

Brownie wrote:
General manager (Mc Parland) of BWFC is coming to BWSA's social evening tonight from 8.40pm in the Platinum Suite at the Reebok. Why not go along and ask him what's going on and what's the true account between LSL and Speedo! Log onto www.BWSAonline.net for details.

smithy wrote:
Next home game we should all sing the beatles song (All we need is love,) but change the word love for POINT'S. All together now.

smithy wrote:
what i,ve i been saying all along about lsl get him out,B.W.F.C. remind me of another IPSWICH thay had a good run in the uefa but when't down that year never to return to top-flight football.

hatemanu wrote:

smithy wrote: what i,ve i been saying all along about lsl get him out,B.W.F.C. remind me of another IPSWICH thay had a good run in the uefa but when't down that year never to return to top-flight football.

Did ipswich stay in the league for 5 season . No they stayed in for one season and got relegated season after . Did ipswich finish in top eight 3 seasons on trot, no i dont think so . Did ipswich have a 8.5million striker like anelka , no they had a one season wonder called stewart ,who was not good enough to clean anelkas boots,ipswich are nothing like bwfc . Agree sammy should go , because if you cant listen to a player like speed , you dont deserve to be a manager . Dressing room , dont want him , so he should pack in for me , because he is fighting a loseing ship now .

smithy wrote:

hatemanu wrote:

smithy wrote: what i,ve i been saying all along about lsl get him out,B.W.F.C. remind me of another IPSWICH thay had a good run in the uefa but when't down that year never to return to top-flight football.

Did ipswich stay in the league for 5 season . No they stayed in for one season and got relegated season after . Did ipswich finish in top eight 3 seasons on trot, no i dont think so . Did ipswich have a 8.5million striker like anelka , no they had a one season wonder called stewart ,who was not good enough to clean anelkas boots,ipswich are nothing like bwfc . Agree sammy should go , because if you cant listen to a player like speed , you dont deserve to be a manager . Dressing room , dont want him , so he should pack in for me , because he is fighting a loseing ship now .

The thing i was trying to say do you not think it's to much for them being in uefa cup with other cup competions and such a bad start. To you Hatemanu (Q) Would you rather be in the uefa cup and may drop down a division.or not be in the uefa cup and stay in the premership you tell me i know which one i want.

smithy wrote:

hatemanu wrote:

smithy wrote: what i,ve i been saying all along about lsl get him out,B.W.F.C. remind me of another IPSWICH thay had a good run in the uefa but when't down that year never to return to top-flight football.

Did ipswich stay in the league for 5 season . No they stayed in for one season and got relegated season after . Did ipswich finish in top eight 3 seasons on trot, no i dont think so . Did ipswich have a 8.5million striker like anelka , no they had a one season wonder called stewart ,who was not good enough to clean anelkas boots,ipswich are nothing like bwfc . Agree sammy should go , because if you cant listen to a player like speed , you dont deserve to be a manager . Dressing room , dont want him , so he should pack in for me , because he is fighting a loseing ship now .

The thing i was trying to say do you not think it's to much for them being in uefa cup with other cup competions and such a bad start. To you Hatemanu (Q) Would you rather be in the uefa cup and may drop down a division.or not be in the uefa cup and stay in the premership you tell me i know which one i want.

Trotter wrote:
Thanks for the response lads, perhaps one day it will hit home about what the word "supporter" means. Keep the faith

Son of Bolton Reader wrote:

Trotter wrote: Thanks for the response lads, perhaps one day it will hit home about what the word "supporter" means. Keep the faith

I'm a true Bolton supporter, in that I support the team and support the club BUT I do not support the rediculous tactics of this season so far, I do not support the lack of managerial presence and most importantly I do not support the manager!!!!

Jacko wrote:
Smithy, on current form it will be March mate!.

Son of Bolton Reader wrote:

Joe Neill wrote: Stop in Amsterdam with all the other pervs. P.S go to L'pool and open your mouth

Shows that you have never been to Amsterdam - the financial hub of Europe - puts Canary Wharf to shame!!!! Plus money and benefits are far superior to what ones gets in UK - 39 days holiday plus public holidays, maximum 47 hours a week no matter what!!!!, 13 month pay packet (an d I don't mean annual salary spread across 13 pay packets either, 8% holiday pay, tax return on mortage - in other words on a mortgage of EUR700 one gets back EUR250 each month from the gvt whether single or not!!!!! Now tell me I'm only here because I'm a perv?? Shows how little interested in Bolton you are actually are. Are you a BWF supporter in only Premeriship alone. Have you ever been to a division 4 game? ahve you ever been to the ground where a supermarket was situated in part of it? Life long Bolton fan and what LSL is doing is a complete disgrace. Get rid of the Scouse scum now!!!

Trotter wrote:

blue wrote: Can Gary Speed show Samy Lee his Euopean CUp medals, does he come close? No. Give Sammy time, he made a bold and welcome if somewhat overdue decision at the weekend and but for a bit of luck, would have got us a great result. We all saw how Gutherie shone, McCann ran, Campo his usual ellubiant self. The fact we didn't offer silly money to that clown that went to wigan etc shows the club is still being ran along the lines of making sure we don't do a Leeds which is fine by me. At Liverpool Bill Shankly's assistant stepped up to become arguably the most successful coach in English football. It is true Fergie was one game away from the sack, its a marathon, not a sprint, and with transfer window not til Jan, may as well see out Oct/Nov with Lee, and if things no better come Dec 1st bring in someone else. On a seperate note saw on an Everton forum that one of them is on my flight from Manchester to Munich as they in Nuremburg same night...me thinks it certainly will be a lovely night.

blue Bob Paisley's the name, worshipped by all Liverpool supporters, the same supporters who are the best in Europe for me, no other fans chant thier manager/s name more than the Kopites do, we have a lot to learn from the best fans in Europe. By the way, it is offical they are the best fans in Europe after a poll was done by UEFA. Keep the faith

I personally dont think yr a perv...but please dont big up Amsterdam, its highly over rated, quite a dirty city and lots of people with mental health problems...

notlob wrote:
Den i agree with you if it was not for the Liverpudlians we would be standing at a football match be able to buy a alcoholic drink at the European games not to mention numerous hub caps and wheel trims. They are the most overrated bunch of low life who would rob their own so they could attend a match leaving the genuine ticket holders without a seat. They have a lot to answer and even now they are anti standing at matches well when they play make them sit for the rest of us who can behave why should we not be able to stand.

Steve Battersby wrote:
When you get to my age - 51 - and have seen people become managers in whatever industry, you quickly get a feel for whether they can cut the mustard or not. Whilst I don't see what is going on at The Reebok on a daily basis, I am told that there is widespread discontent amongst playing and non-playing staff. This, of course, may or may not be the case. In truth, only those who are employed there actually know and some of those making remarks to 'outsiders' may well have their own agendas. The only individuals who can really sort the situation out are, therefore, the Board. They, as stewards of our club, have a commercial and moral duty to ascertain the true facts - I would hope they already know these - and act in the best interests of the club going forward. All indicators point seemingly to a need to review the manager's position immediately and perhaps make a change now rather than leave some of the apparent problems to fester and spread. We must place our trust in them and hope they make the correct decision. I was deeply disappointed with the way in which Big Sam's departure was handled in public and feel that a big PR mistake was made in some of the criticisms levelled unfairly against him. I also cannot believe that Gary Speed does not have the best interests of this club at heart - he is the archetypal model professional and a credit to the game. So Messrs Gartside and Davies along with their other colleagues need now to act, even if that act is to verbally lend support to Sammy Lee in the short term. Supporters need to know that there is a firm hand on the rudder as we sail through choppy waters and the major concern of us all is that we seem to be floating helplessly into the eye of the storm.