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10:59am Friday 19th October 2007
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BOLTON Wanderers' search for a new manager has already taken them from Birmingham to the Basque region of Spain.
While Reebok officials maintained a diplomatic silence on the question of who they want to succeed Sammy Lee, it emerged yesterday that they have made approaches for Birmingham City boss, Steve Bruce, and the Real Sociedad manager, Chris Coleman.
Early inidications are that both bids were unsuccessful and that they may have to look elsewhere. But comfirmation of the approaches has drastically shortened the odds on Bruce and Coleman becoming the next Bolton manager.
Paul Jewell, remains a firm favourite with the bookmakers, but it has become clear over the past 24 hours that the former Wigan manager is not the only name on the short-list, if indeed his name is there at all.
There appeared to be no question that Bruce was on Phil Gartside's radar after the Blues' boss confirmed earlier speculation that on Wednesday night, just hours after Lee had quit the Reebok, the Wanderers' chairman approached St Andrew's chiefs seeking permission to speak to their man.
"My first reaction was that they've seen the type of job I've done and would like permission to speak to me," Bruce told Sky Sports News. "That hasn't been granted so I'll accept that."
Then, later in the day, came confirmation from Coleman's representative, Alan Smith, that Wanderers also wanted to speak to the former Fulham manager, who joined the Spanish second division club in the summer.
Smith, who was Coleman's manager at Crystal Palace and was once interviewed himself for the Bolton job, contradicted claims that the former Wales international was unsettled at Sociedad.
"Bolton have asked for permission to speak to Chris," Smith said. "It's a very interesting proposition for him to return to the Premier League, but at the same time he is happy in Spain. We have already turned down an enquiry from another English club."
It remains to be seen whether Wanderers will pursue their interest in either man, but, with Bruce reportedly unsettled by a proposed change of ownership, the time could be right to test Birmingham's resolve.
The 46-year-old, has been at St Andrew's for six years and has twice steered the Blues to promotion to the Premier League. So it is no surprise, after Lee was found wanting for experience, that the Reebok hierarchy have targeted a manager with a more extensive CV.
The former Manchester United captain managed Sheffield United, Huddersfield, Wigan and Crystal Palace before joining Birmingham in 2001.
That season he steered the Blues to the top flight and kept them there for four years. When they were relegated two seasons ago, the St Andrew's board stood by him and their loyalty was rewarded when they were promoted back to the Premiership at the first attempt. But Bruce is now seeking assurances over his future in the light of Hong Kong businessman, Carson Yeung's proposed takeover.
Graeme Souness, John Collins, Gary Megson and Peter Reid feature in the betting frame behind Jewell.
Phil Brown, meanwhile, has ruled out a Reebok return.
The Hull boss, who quit Wanderers to manage Derby in the summer of 2005 denied any interest in the job.
"I am very happy with the job I'm doing here," said Brown, whose association with the club goes back to 1988.
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Bolton Billy, Daubhill says...
11:35am Fri 19 Oct 07
The Wanderers should aim as high as possible and Collins would be seen as an ambitious move. I also have tremendous respect for Steve Coppell. He is a highly underrated manager of great integrity.
Only one Andy Walker, London says...
11:35am Fri 19 Oct 07
WE REALLY NEED A TOP QUALITY EXCITING MANAGER TO GET THE TOWN AND CLUB BUZZING AGAIN.
WE NEED A SPARK TO GET THE FANS GOING AGAIN. LIKE WHEN THE BOARD OPENED IT'S EYES AND SIGNED ANDY WALKER THEN LATER DAVID LEE IN THE 90'S.
ALL THE MANAGERS MENTIONED MAKE ME VERY DEPRESSED AS THEY ARE ALL VERY POOR.
JEWELL = BULLY TACTICALLY POOR
REID= CLUELESS TOO OLD SCHOOL
COLEMAN=FULHAM ALWAYS IN THE BOTTOM HALF OF TABLE
Bruce= always looks flustered and a bit of a ditherer. Lost the dressing room when brum went down.
we have the players to move up the table. they just need the management and fans backing.
sadly if JEWELL OR ANY OF THE OTHERS MENTIONED GET THE JOB NO EXCITEMENT WILL BE GENERATED JUST BORE.
LETS HOP THE BOARD HAVE SOME VISION.
I ALSO HOPE NOLAN AND SPEED ARE DROPPED FOR SATURDAY AS THE TEAM LAST WEEK PLAYED VERY WELL. ESPECIALLY GUTHRIE AND MC CANN
Only one Andy Walker, London says...
11:36am Fri 19 Oct 07
HE IS A SHOCKER! DONE NOTHING AT WIGAN & BRADFORD!
WE ARE NOT RELEGATION FODDER! WE HAVE SOME QUALITY PLAYERS WHO NEED A QUALITY MANAGER.
WE HAVE BETTER PLAYERS THAN DERBY,BRUM,MIDDLESBO
ROUGH, WEST HAM,SUNDERLAND,FULHA
M.
WE JUST NEED A CONFIDENT MANAGER WHO IS TACTICALLY AWARE AND CAN GAIN THE RESPECT OF THE PLAYERS AND FANS.
TWO WINS ON THE BOUNCE AND WE CAN PUSH UP THE TABLE.
Paul1970, Fleetwood says...
11:43am Fri 19 Oct 07
After a poor start to the season and the exit of Sammy Lee, there is yet more disruption for Bolton. It seems they have a new owner, at least according to Daniel Taylor, writing for the Guardian.
(Phil) Gartside reported back to the club's owner, Eddie Lewis, and they announced in a brief statement it was a 'difficult decision for all parties but we have agreed the time is right,' wrote Taylor in a piece that was long on speculation and short on fact.
The last time we looked, the clubs owner was Eddie Davies, so clearly there`s been a great deal of secrecy in getting the new man in. Or maybe it`s just that Daniel Taylor is a crap journalist.
barbarossa, poulton le fylde says...
11:55am Fri 19 Oct 07
richard, darwen says...
12:08pm Fri 19 Oct 07
Andy, Staffordshire says...
12:12pm Fri 19 Oct 07
Seddy, Horwich, Bolton says...
12:15pm Fri 19 Oct 07
Yes we have some good players but possibly only until january? Whoever does take over the reign will have to work with a low budget, possibly the lowest in the premiership.
Even Wigan managed to splash the cash on the likes of Koumas, I just think Gartside has let everybody down by not letting SL spend decent amounts in the summer and he is now looking to recruit a second rate manager such as Bruce and Coleman. Fulham nearly went down last season and Bruce has already got relegated with Birmingham!!
Gartside is a joke! Especially with all the TV money floating around he has no excuses. The man should take a long hard look at himself.
Blanco, Bolton says...
12:16pm Fri 19 Oct 07
rafe, Sydney says...
12:18pm Fri 19 Oct 07
The more sensible shouts i have heard are collins or coppell but then again doesn't he suffer from the same nerves problem that jewell has.
All we can hope for is a manager that can put up with not being given any money, whatever they may promise him to get him into the job and one that will hold the whites as paramount above his career.
Paul, Deane says...
12:44pm Fri 19 Oct 07
is not backing the manager with funds in the summer
charnersbwfc, Adlington says...
12:52pm Fri 19 Oct 07
barbarossa, poulton le fylde says...
12:54pm Fri 19 Oct 07
rafe, Sydney says...
12:59pm Fri 19 Oct 07
The other question is how are the other managers that are approached after these rejections going to feel?
Jon, Bolton says...
1:01pm Fri 19 Oct 07
rafe wrote:I don't think its a case of "first choice" I think we are just seeing who wants the job, who is available, and who we can talk to, before we make a decision.
f**k me they have approached leicester for megson, hopefully we are starting at the bottom and working up. The other question is how are the other managers that are approached after these rejections going to feel?
King Cain, Bolton says...
1:10pm Fri 19 Oct 07
rafe wrote:There's no problem with Coppell's nerves he left City after a very short spell as they discovered he is gay (fact) and was ousted however that wouldn't bother me whatsoever if he took BWFC forward. It doesn't mean he is any worse a manager in fact he is an excellent manager and very underated however there is only one choice for me and i do keep going on about it and he is Collins.
I have always tried to look at any situation with a positive aspect but I fear the worst and that souness or reid will step in to take us who knows where. The more sensible shouts i have heard are collins or coppell but then again doesn't he suffer from the same nerves problem that jewell has. All we can hope for is a manager that can put up with not being given any money, whatever they may promise him to get him into the job and one that will hold the whites as paramount above his career.
The problem we have is that if Gartslime had took his time and made the correct choice when Big Sam left then we would be in a position to pick from a better selection of candidates. Players like Faye may have wanted to stay if he had seen we were going places. As it is we have had to lower our sights to managers with experience of relegation battles and wont be able to attract the Houlliers or the Koemans who may have been tempted taking over at the end of last season with the promise of a 20 million war chest. And there lies the problem Gartslime is a complete and utter toss bag and it's his and Eddie Davies' fault why we are in this mess.
King Cain, Bolton says...
1:11pm Fri 19 Oct 07
rafe wrote:There's no problem with Coppell's nerves he left City after a very short spell as they discovered he is gay (fact) and was ousted however that wouldn't bother me whatsoever if he took BWFC forward. It doesn't mean he is any worse a manager in fact he is an excellent manager and very underated however there is only one choice for me and i do keep going on about it and he is Collins.
I have always tried to look at any situation with a positive aspect but I fear the worst and that souness or reid will step in to take us who knows where. The more sensible shouts i have heard are collins or coppell but then again doesn't he suffer from the same nerves problem that jewell has. All we can hope for is a manager that can put up with not being given any money, whatever they may promise him to get him into the job and one that will hold the whites as paramount above his career.
The problem we have is that if Gartslime had took his time and made the correct choice when Big Sam left then we would be in a position to pick from a better selection of candidates. Players like Faye may have wanted to stay if he had seen we were going places. As it is we have had to lower our sights to managers with experience of relegation battles and wont be able to attract the Houlliers or the Koemans who may have been tempted taking over at the end of last season with the promise of a 20 million war chest. And there lies the problem Gartslime is a complete and utter toss bag and it's his and Eddie Davies' fault why we are in this mess.
King Cain, Bolton says...
1:13pm Fri 19 Oct 07
Tassie Tiger, Hobart says...
1:14pm Fri 19 Oct 07
Finally, much as I like it for it's news coverage The Guardian never says anything nice about Bolton. Having said that it was mentioning dressing room ill feeling before the start of the season.
barbarossa, poulton le fylde says...
1:15pm Fri 19 Oct 07
Paul, Deane says...
1:25pm Fri 19 Oct 07
andy, London says...
1:26pm Fri 19 Oct 07
Megson?
Is Gartside on drugs?
Megson???
Please lord no. I'd sooner Michael Ricketts took over with Robbie savage as his assistant.
andy, London says...
1:30pm Fri 19 Oct 07
Megson?
Is Gartside on drugs?
Megson???
Please lord no. I'd sooner Michael Ricketts took over with Robbie savage as his assistant.
Pedro, Bolton says...
1:32pm Fri 19 Oct 07
Paul wrote:Spot on Paul.
If Gartside had a replacementin mind which would excite the fans eg Capello, Mourinho or someone of that calibre then I could understand him sacking SL. but we have no replacement lined up and are now approaching failed managers with no track record of success in the Premier league and none of whom in my opinion would do a better job than SL.Also the main criteria for Gartside will be the ability to manage a club in the PL without spending any money. What calibre of manager will be prepared to work under those circumstances
Pedro, Bolton says...
1:36pm Fri 19 Oct 07
hatemanu, bolton says...
1:42pm Fri 19 Oct 07
eenie, Derby says...
1:42pm Fri 19 Oct 07
andy wrote:I know. I'm shocked. If Phil or ANYONE with the clubs interests reads this stuff. Appoint Megson, and we quit. He took over at my dad's club, Nottm Forest and he took them even further down the pan. Gartside, You're having a laugh. Sort it out & get Collins in, that's John Collins, not Collins John.
Megson?
Megson?
Is Gartside on drugs?
Megson???
Please lord no. I'd sooner Michael Ricketts took over with Robbie savage as his assistant.
Pele, rio says...
1:44pm Fri 19 Oct 07
God_Man, Westhoughton says...
1:49pm Fri 19 Oct 07
Like half of our signings this year Gary Megson is no more than Championship material.
Son of Bolton Reader, Amsterdam says...
1:53pm Fri 19 Oct 07
Voice of Reason, Bolton says...
2:07pm Fri 19 Oct 07
neon, Greenville, SC says...
2:07pm Fri 19 Oct 07
Can't you get it into your thick skulls that we are Bolton Wanderers.
NOT - F. C. Barcelona,
NOT - Chelsea, or Man U
NOT - Real Madrid,
NOT - Bayern Munich!
You're on here saying this guy isn't good enough or that guy can't cut it.
Well have you stopped to think that maybe they look at the proposition of coming here and think exactly the same thing?
For cryin' out loud, can't we get some people on here who've had an original thought or two, like. . . hey look at this guy, he'd be good because he brings this to the table or that to the table. Any muppet can complain.
To those out there in the past couple of days who weren't **** and moaning and there were a few with legit, intelligent thoughts, please excuse my rant.
smithy, st helens says...
2:09pm Fri 19 Oct 07
Marlow-white, Marlow says...
2:09pm Fri 19 Oct 07
Only one Andy Walker, London says...
2:16pm Fri 19 Oct 07
If they had nobody in line to replace sammy then maybe lsl should have stayed on. At least he finally dropped speed and nolan. We have a bit more energy in midfield without them two. Nolan could however be a super sub if he gets back to his scoring ways. It might have to be long balls, free kicks and scrapping to get a result on saturday though.
Lets get behind Archie Knox and the boys and have another good performance against the Arse end.
jay, bolton says...
2:23pm Fri 19 Oct 07
MeForManager, Bolton says...
2:23pm Fri 19 Oct 07
I have never seen such mismanagement. When Big Sam went we were an established top 8 premier league side. That made us attractive to most managers across europe. IF we had advertised the job and taken time in making a decision we could have ended up with a great manager. Instaed we gavew it so a man with no experience.
And now, instead of learning and advertising the job we are running round approaching 1st disvision shitkicker after 1st division shitkicker.
Typical BWFC...the ride is over ladies and gents, I hope you enjoyed it. If you havent got your ticket to Belgrade get it quick, we will NEVER play in europe again.
Durks, Brockhall says...
2:24pm Fri 19 Oct 07
smithy, st helens says...
2:25pm Fri 19 Oct 07
charnersbwfc, Adlington says...
2:28pm Fri 19 Oct 07
mighty boosh, astley bridge says...
2:43pm Fri 19 Oct 07
Alder Brownstone wrote:not rushing????? slee sacked/quit wed speak to b/ham about bruce thurs,off to sociadad thurs neet to speak to coleman!!!! that seems like rushing/ or panicing/plucking at straws to me!
At least the club appears to be taking their time and looking at all available options rather than just rushing into this. Hopefully it's something they have learnt from appointing LSL. Rumour has it Hoddle will be approached and an approach for Steve Coppell was turned down also.
David, Westhoughton says...
2:47pm Fri 19 Oct 07
My vote is for HOULLIER or Ruud...
mighty boosh, astley bridge says...
2:48pm Fri 19 Oct 07
lord kangana, Bolton says...
2:54pm Fri 19 Oct 07
neon wrote:Don't see many suggestions there.
Heaven help me. There are some people on here who are just flat out, brain-addled morons. Can't you get it into your thick skulls that we are Bolton Wanderers. NOT - F. C. Barcelona, NOT - Chelsea, or Man U NOT - Real Madrid, NOT - Bayern Munich! You're on here saying this guy isn't good enough or that guy can't cut it. Well have you stopped to think that maybe they look at the proposition of coming here and think exactly the same thing? For cryin' out loud, can't we get some people on here who've had an original thought or two, like. . . hey look at this guy, he'd be good because he brings this to the table or that to the table. Any muppet can complain. To those out there in the past couple of days who weren't **** and moaning and there were a few with legit, intelligent thoughts, please excuse my rant.
Hardly the attitude that tempted Jay-Jay, Youri, Campo, Hierro, Gudjohnson, Bobic, Anelka, Diouf........I could go on.
We are a team that is in Europe, has consistently been the best performing team outside the top 4 for about 5 seasons, and has just recieved a lottery style payout from the new Sky money.
Its a fact that we can afford to pay our players more than the likes of Celtic and Rangers and a whole host of mid-to-large European clubs because of our status in the English premier League.
Small club we may be, but 'punching above our weight' hasn't happened by a miracle.
LKAFG
harwood white, harwood says...
2:56pm Fri 19 Oct 07
neon, Greenville, SC says...
2:58pm Fri 19 Oct 07
I was just pointing out that we are only big enough to attract a manager near the top of the profession but not big enough to draw the really huge names.
Phil Neal, southport says...
3:00pm Fri 19 Oct 07
harwood white wrote:all quiet here
hi, i've just got back from two weeks in florida. anything happened?
ste1982, bolton says...
3:02pm Fri 19 Oct 07
Phil Neal, southport says...
3:05pm Fri 19 Oct 07
David, Westoughton says...
3:11pm Fri 19 Oct 07
I don't think we need another he will keep us up manager we need a he will keep us up in the europe spots, challenge for a trophy and bring back the fans to the club manager.
I'd even go into the controversial and say take Mclaren off England's hands for them.... as a last resort of course...
Gareth Jones, Oz says...
3:12pm Fri 19 Oct 07
Tim D, Bolton fan living in Blackburn says...
3:13pm Fri 19 Oct 07
The Steve Coppell appointment is one that I could go with although there are some suggestions that he is an "uphill gardener" !
If we cannot get the right manager in at this stage let's put Archie Knox and Gary Speed in as caretakers and take our time to assess the options. I know we have to start picking up points but I suspect we will see a big improvement in team morale now LSL has been removed. Those players who had issue with him will surely now start to burst their balls to make up for their sub-par performances so far ( I am referring to Nolan, Speed, Jussi to name but three).
Come on you whites. Gartside please think big !!
birch, chorley says...
3:24pm Fri 19 Oct 07
Tim D wrote:Archie knox is a joke, he is part of the dead wood that needs stripping out of the club. I have herd that a senior player said if he is cartaker on saturday then we will get stuffed, the reason we got rid of lee is because he lost the players respect and by putting that joke in as cartaker we are no better off!
I guess we are all entitled to an opinion but some of the names linked with Bolton are quite shocking. The likes Graeme (Happy Bas**rd) Souness, Gary Megson and even Steve Bruce and Chris Coleman worry me enormously. The Steve Coppell appointment is one that I could go with although there are some suggestions that he is an "uphill gardener" ! If we cannot get the right manager in at this stage let's put Archie Knox and Gary Speed in as caretakers and take our time to assess the options. I know we have to start picking up points but I suspect we will see a big improvement in team morale now LSL has been removed. Those players who had issue with him will surely now start to burst their balls to make up for their sub-par performances so far ( I am referring to Nolan, Speed, Jussi to name but three). Come on you whites. Gartside please think big !!
Nik, London says...
3:26pm Fri 19 Oct 07
Tel, bolton says...
3:26pm Fri 19 Oct 07
Cumbria White, Cumbria says...
3:28pm Fri 19 Oct 07
Also, no transfer funds, which has always been the case historically, will not tempt any established name.
Our only option is to go for a new hungry manager working his way up, maybe Collins or Ince but no one being mentioned gives any confidence.
The other possibility is that Souness could try and buy the club as he has done with other clubs, and then install himself as manager or director of football and install someone he likes as manager.
As for complaints about lack of foresight by Gartside, how would it have looked if he started sounding out managers with Sammy still in charge, that wouldn't have won him any admirers or endeared him to potential new managers.
Nearly everybody who wanted Sammy out have got their way and are now complaining about the recruitment of his successor, I'm afraid we will get the manager we deserve.
mighty boosh, astley bridge says...
3:28pm Fri 19 Oct 07
Tim D wrote:im not sure mr coppells,or any managers nocturnal activities are relevant really!!! unless you were thinkin about stiffening up the back four!?
I guess we are all entitled to an opinion but some of the names linked with Bolton are quite shocking. The likes Graeme (Happy Bas**rd) Souness, Gary Megson and even Steve Bruce and Chris Coleman worry me enormously. The Steve Coppell appointment is one that I could go with although there are some suggestions that he is an "uphill gardener" ! If we cannot get the right manager in at this stage let's put Archie Knox and Gary Speed in as caretakers and take our time to assess the options. I know we have to start picking up points but I suspect we will see a big improvement in team morale now LSL has been removed. Those players who had issue with him will surely now start to burst their balls to make up for their sub-par performances so far ( I am referring to Nolan, Speed, Jussi to name but three). Come on you whites. Gartside please think big !!
voice of doom, somewhere in darkest england says...
3:30pm Fri 19 Oct 07
effeff, Bolton says...
3:40pm Fri 19 Oct 07
neon wrote:Spot on. I'd go for Phil Brown, we need someone who is Bolton Through & Through and not looking for a job for a jobs sake. If the ones that have been quoted ie: Souness , Hoddle to mention a few if they were that good why are they out of work ?
Heaven help me. There are some people on here who are just flat out, brain-addled morons. Can't you get it into your thick skulls that we are Bolton Wanderers. NOT - F. C. Barcelona, NOT - Chelsea, or Man U NOT - Real Madrid, NOT - Bayern Munich! You're on here saying this guy isn't good enough or that guy can't cut it. Well have you stopped to think that maybe they look at the proposition of coming here and think exactly the same thing? For cryin' out loud, can't we get some people on here who've had an original thought or two, like. . . hey look at this guy, he'd be good because he brings this to the table or that to the table. Any muppet can complain. To those out there in the past couple of days who weren't **** and moaning and there were a few with legit, intelligent thoughts, please excuse my rant.
pablo, bolton says...
3:53pm Fri 19 Oct 07
Refusal of permission to approach by chairmen are usually just a move in the negotiations; it doesn't mean the door is terminally closed. The main problem with the way BWFC board have worked is that there isn't time for a new man to bed in; points are needed urgently or morale will drop even more. Like a few others I thought the performance against Chelsea was encouraging and that the team was better (especially in the first half) without Nolan's current poor form.
bwfc season ticket holder, gt lever says...
4:14pm Fri 19 Oct 07
stand up for the whites
support the players take a stand against the thieves (gartside and eddie )
Carneval, Bergen, Norway says...
4:33pm Fri 19 Oct 07
1. Roy Hodgson (at the moment Finnish national coach)
2 Trond Sollied (at the moment at Gent Belgium, but has a release clause) was ranked no.9 manager by UEFA in 2006. Just behind no. 8 Alex Ferguson. http://www.aftenpost
en.no/english/sports
/article1412744.ece
charlie, wigan says...
4:46pm Fri 19 Oct 07
MeForManager wrote:God I feel depressed everyone was ranting about LSL goin now he has they have just found something else to whinge about
The board are turning is into a laughing stock. I have never seen such mismanagement. When Big Sam went we were an established top 8 premier league side. That made us attractive to most managers across europe. IF we had advertised the job and taken time in making a decision we could have ended up with a great manager. Instaed we gavew it so a man with no experience. And now, instead of learning and advertising the job we are running round approaching 1st disvision shitkicker after 1st division shitkicker. Typical BWFC...the ride is over ladies and gents, I hope you enjoyed it. If you havent got your ticket to Belgrade get it quick, we will NEVER play in europe again.
As for me I may not like who we choose but they are still my club when all said and done and no way would I throw my teamcard away
pie_in_the, sky says...
5:11pm Fri 19 Oct 07
Trond Sollied is actually a sideboard from Ikea!
MrWesrtToYou, Bolton says...
5:27pm Fri 19 Oct 07
chris, cumbria says...
5:27pm Fri 19 Oct 07
wontaskforanymoney.c
o.uk
As far as the list goes Collins would be the best in my opinion, as for the rest i think if Jewell wont take it give it Speed, he understands the club and knows the strenghts of the players.
Arsenal game will be interesting, i think the players might just want to prove a point,but then i am always the optomist.
ANYWAY TIME NOW FOR US TO FILL THE REEBOK FOR THE VILLA GAME, COME ON YOU WHITES!
smithy, st helens says...
5:37pm Fri 19 Oct 07
MrWesrtToYou wrote:well we did it in the 70s
SACK THE GOD DAM BOARD THATS WHAT I SAY!!!!
R Stevens, says...
5:46pm Fri 19 Oct 07
unhappy wanderer, BOLTON says...
5:48pm Fri 19 Oct 07
BoltonMatty21, Wigan says...
5:51pm Fri 19 Oct 07
No matter how shyte a manager we end up with - they'll be better than fkin sammy lee!
lewis-bwfc, Reebok Stadium says...
5:57pm Fri 19 Oct 07
.com/story/0,19528,1
1672_2810853,00.html
Never heard of this guy but his track record looks OK and we need someone of this calibre!
rob, horwich says...
6:02pm Fri 19 Oct 07
Alot has happened these last few week, thats the main reason why i've not been posting any comments on here. I think i'm the first to say nobody expected LSL to quit did they ?, some people wanted to let him hang (gartside) and keep letting him mess with a team that wasn't broke in the first place, we only lost faye, TBH and idan tal, and we let david thompson, pederson, fortune ect go, so he didn't do bad in that respect.
Like many of you have posted on here for the past few week, many of you were right from the start others like myself were very slow to realize what was happening before our very eyes, now i have never posted a bad comment on here about what i think of a player or how bad he is playing, i would never ever diss this team we have, i just hope knoxy puts a good team out tommorow afternoon, remember anelka is out and so is our super left winger wilhelmsson so i'm going to give knoxy a hand-
4-3-3 formation
jussi (gk)
gardner (lb)
michalik (cb)
meite (fb)
j-o'brien (rb)
guthrie (l-mid)
alonso (holding/center)
(lets give him a go) nolan (r-mid)
diouf (l-forward)
davies (c-forward)
braaten (r-forward)
blue, Lancs says...
6:12pm Fri 19 Oct 07
"Irureta transformed the fortunes of Deportivo La Coruna during a seven-year stint between 1998 and 2005, as he made them regular qualifiers for the UEFA Champions League and also guided them to their first ever La Liga title in 2000"*
Seeing a man with these credentials express an interest in the job is interesting, and as such I reckon he may be worth a punt.
What do my esteemed colleagues think?
*Cut & Paste job from skysports.com
Jethro Tull, Bolton says...
6:18pm Fri 19 Oct 07
Get real gartside, and sign a high profile manager who will attract good players.
Jacko, Little Lever says...
6:55pm Fri 19 Oct 07
Jacko, Little Lever says...
6:57pm Fri 19 Oct 07
barbarossa, poulton le fylde says...
7:00pm Fri 19 Oct 07
svengoli, says...
7:02pm Fri 19 Oct 07
Apart from him and Roy Hodgson, it's hard to think of anyone who could attract big-name players in the twilight of their careers the way BSA did. Big names such as JJ, Hierro, Youri etc put bums on seats and we need an injection of quality in management and playing staff.
You may shoot me down in flames for this, but I wondered if any of the top TV pundits might be suitable and persuadable. The ones I am thinking of have had illustrious playing careers and have the sort of charisma that poor LSL did not possess, and might be able to attract luminaries to the club. Shearer, Hanson, Lawrenson purport to know all about the game....but may feel they have comfortable lifestyles that they would not wish to leave for the stress of management.
superjohn, bolton says...
7:04pm Fri 19 Oct 07
pie_in_the wrote:That's a quality joke right there! Thanks for lightening the mood. I always thought that LSL was 'assembled' rather than born, his TV performances were certainly wooden enough...
correction.......... Trond Sollied is actually a sideboard from Ikea!
I've not posted for a few days cause I don't really know what to make of all these names being thrown out on here and in the press. To find another jewel like Allardyce will not be easy but yeah, names like Collins & Ince are interesting and having a punt would appeal to me. I think we all know though that our board will be looking for someone who's a specialist at avoiding relegation so Jewell looks good for that. I like Coleman, I think he did pretty well at Fulham, I always liked the way they played too and he comes across well on the telly. The Megson thing is positively frightening, the guy has an abysmal track record and I wouldn't even employ him to work in the BWFC shop. PG - Your next decision had better be a good one!
cb58, u.k says...
7:23pm Fri 19 Oct 07
rob, horwich says...
7:46pm Fri 19 Oct 07
cb58 wrote:i was just thinking that myself mate..
Get the spanish guy, sounds alot better than the crap thats being mentioned.
jewell and sounes are all has beens in my opinion!!!
hatemanu, bolton says...
7:47pm Fri 19 Oct 07
cb58, u.k says...
7:53pm Fri 19 Oct 07
jhartley2, bolton says...
8:10pm Fri 19 Oct 07
will people get real we made one b-lls
up giving lee the job GARSIDE & DAVISE have to get it right this time or we are going down like CHARTON .
i still think browny would do a job for us but the ben has reported he is happy at HULL .
so who can they bring in and would want the job .
if he would come i think
COLMAN would get the players support
he is mates with SPEED from his WALES days and has done a good job at FULHAM speaks well on tv and radio im sure the players would
back him which was LEEs downfall .
hears hoping.
davie boy, bury says...
8:36pm Fri 19 Oct 07
David, Westoughton says...
8:41pm Fri 19 Oct 07
Come on guys think about there are plently of GOOD managers out there that are free surely with the likes of IRUTETA putting there name into the hat then there is some hope.
Keep the faith!!!
bez, chorley says...
9:16pm Fri 19 Oct 07
it comes to something when a little old bolton wanderers fan has to point the board in the right direction.
so gartside stop beingshortsighted and get the job done
nuff said
smithy, st helens says...
9:30pm Fri 19 Oct 07
(bwfc-til-i-die) I've not come to gloat or dwell on satisfaction but sky sport reckons chris coleman won't be the next manager of bolton so this someone in the know (you'r sauce) who will the smart money be on this weekend. I remember bolton playing liverpool Stan Collemore was playing that day and all the fans around me wear chanting what a waste of money meaning what liverpool payed for him liverpool won that day, Guess who scored yes you've got it Collemore 0-1 liverpool, the moral to my storey is,
(1)dont believe everything that you are told (good sauce bad saues)what's you sauce this week.
(2)dont slag eney one off espeshly in football it usually come's back to haunt you.you know what i mean.
Chris Baron, Bolton says...
10:04pm Fri 19 Oct 07
smithy, st helens says...
10:42pm Fri 19 Oct 07
Chris Baron wrote:well said i'll second that good post
Gartside , you are such a numpty! , What are you on? , Gary Megson. What an absolute shambles you are making of choosing a manager for BWFC. You sack Sammy Lee without a new guy lined up then go for the likes of Bruce , Coleman and now Megson , who is one of the worst managers i've ever seen. Gartside , you are a complete liability , every thing you touch turns to rat ****. You couldn't even organise tickets for the 1 final we got too for ages when i spent 8 hrs queing for a ticket in the cold while you sat on your fat arse in the warm at home , then you slag off the best manager we have had beside Bruce Rioch and employ a no mark in Sammy Lee. The slagging of Big Sam , saying LSL was better than Big Sam which i thought and still do was one of the lowest remarks i've ever heard from a BWFC Chairman. How ungratefull can you be , TOOL.
Jacko, Little Lever says...
11:01pm Fri 19 Oct 07
King Cain, Bolton says...
11:16pm Fri 19 Oct 07
Chris Baron wrote:Chris i love it and i can't believe that there's someone who hates this guy as much as me, i spit fire when i speak of the ratslime. It gives me no pleasure to say that i have been pointing out Gartslime's crimes for years but not many listen, i have been slagged and slated on this very site for highlighting his misdemeanors. A complete toss pot who wants stoning to death.
Gartside , you are such a numpty! , What are you on? , Gary Megson. What an absolute shambles you are making of choosing a manager for BWFC. You sack Sammy Lee without a new guy lined up then go for the likes of Bruce , Coleman and now Megson , who is one of the worst managers i've ever seen. Gartside , you are a complete liability , every thing you touch turns to rat ****. You couldn't even organise tickets for the 1 final we got too for ages when i spent 8 hrs queing for a ticket in the cold while you sat on your fat arse in the warm at home , then you slag off the best manager we have had beside Bruce Rioch and employ a no mark in Sammy Lee. The slagging of Big Sam , saying LSL was better than Big Sam which i thought and still do was one of the lowest remarks i've ever heard from a BWFC Chairman. How ungratefull can you be , TOOL.
wrothy, westhoughton says...
11:18pm Fri 19 Oct 07
unhappy wanderer wrote:spot on owd pal
Can the many members of the Muppet club who booed Big Sam on his return to the Reebok first game of the season perhaps now comment upon the current state of the club? As I said back then, the boos should have been directed at the world's only surviving brain transplant donor, one Mr Gartside. To call him clueless would be too exalted an accolade. The present situation is a total embarassment. To be turned down by the likes of Megson is a bit like asking Cilla off Coronation Street for a date and being told you're too common for her. What half decent manager is going to join a club that screams out no ambition? Big Sam did miracles on next to nowt in Premiership terms. We won't see his like ever again at the club. God knows where this is leading us to. The Championship may not be the final resting place.
King Cain, Bolton says...
11:21pm Fri 19 Oct 07
Peter, Smithills says...
11:39pm Fri 19 Oct 07
King Cain wrote:My AAARSE! Nice one John
Ricky Tomlinson just been seen sat in Burger King toilets reading through a contract offer from BWFC for next manager.
David, Westhoughton says...
11:48pm Fri 19 Oct 07
King Cain wrote:Was this before or after Ricky went into a Liverpool Hospital to have a quadruple heart bypass...!!!!
Ricky Tomlinson just been seen sat in Burger King toilets reading through a contract offer from BWFC for next manager.
Sometimes its better to check before you make a joke about someone!!
Jacko, Little Lever says...
12:10am Sat 20 Oct 07
MarkHatton88, Brighton says...
2:08am Sat 20 Oct 07
JT, England says...
2:35am Sat 20 Oct 07
MarkHatton88 wrote:The Emirates is a mini Wembley!!! Great place to be honest. I will be at the game then off on the hit and miss in Covent Garden, Punch and Judy Tavernc is a good place to get started.
just read that the old deportivo manager irrueta is interested in the job (quote sky sports news). That would be interesting... Cant wait for the game tomorrow..never been to emirates so it should be a good day out!!
Anyway just got this off NewsNow=Bolton
59-year old Irureta could be an interesting proporsition, he has been in football management since 1984 and has had spells with Real Oviedo, Athletico Bilbao,Celta Vigo, Real Betis and Sociedad.
However, it is with Deportivo between 1998 and 2005 where he has had most success. He won the La Liga title with them in 2000 and helped them to the Copa Del Rey two years later as well as regularly qualifying for the Champions League in successive seasons.
Irureta has also won two Spanish Super Cups in 2000 and 2002 to add to his honours cabinet and according to Sky Sports is beleived to want to manage in the Premiership.
Bolton have never had a manager from foreign climes in charge before but clubs like Arsenal, Aston Villa, Blackburn Rovers, Chelsea, Liverpool, Manchester City, Newcastle United and Portsmouth have all tried overseas management with mixed success.
Known as A guy that does miracles with duff players and A SMALL BUDGET!!!
All the best - Up the whites and get up the Arsenal lads!!
liambwfc, Bolton says...
5:01am Sat 20 Oct 07
James, Westhoughton says...
9:09am Sat 20 Oct 07
Jacko wrote:I am still glad Sham Allarshyte has gone. Whatever Sammy Lee did (I personally think he should have been given more time), Bungy has indirectly been part of the rot so far this season. He brags about what he did at Bolton, but he seems content on killing it. He wont be so smug when Newcastle get fed up of him and his moanings.
Another very good post!.We shouldnt be shocked by the quality of manager Gartside is after,just look back to the list of players he came up with in the summer!!.All the FANS slagging big Sam before the season started & saying they are glad hes gone are very quiet now!.A lack of investment lost us the best manager we will probably ever have,thanks Gartside!.Just been on sky sports news Bury have refused permission for us to speak to Chris Casper!!,Gartside is now looking to David Pleat or Howard Kendal!!.
King Cain, Bolton says...
10:36am Sat 20 Oct 07
David wrote:Shut up you morbid pratt it's a joke and the jokes business is what he is in. If he is struggling with his heart then he needs to ask himself why and sort himself out, he's lucky he's got another chance where others haven't.
King Cain wrote: Ricky Tomlinson just been seen sat in Burger King toilets reading through a contract offer from BWFC for next manager.Was this before or after Ricky went into a Liverpool Hospital to have a quadruple heart bypass...!!!! Sometimes its better to check before you make a joke about someone!!
King Cain, Bolton says...
10:36am Sat 20 Oct 07
David wrote:Shut up you morbid pratt it's a joke and the jokes business is what he is in. If he is struggling with his heart then he needs to ask himself why and sort himself out, he's lucky he's got another chance where others haven't.
King Cain wrote: Ricky Tomlinson just been seen sat in Burger King toilets reading through a contract offer from BWFC for next manager.Was this before or after Ricky went into a Liverpool Hospital to have a quadruple heart bypass...!!!! Sometimes its better to check before you make a joke about someone!!
Trotter, Bolton says...
11:12am Sat 20 Oct 07
The story goes like this: Dave Whelan accepted Paul Jewell's resignation under Whelan's terms in that if Jewell did not sign for another club for 6 months then he would honour Jewell with a large lump sum of money as a pay off from Wigan Athletic as Whelan thought at the time he was jumping ship for another club, Jewell agreed this 6 months agreement but if he was to manage before this period then he would get nothing. The 6 months is up on the 14th November 2007 , so my contact who works for Sport & Entertainment Media Group informs me. Another possibility is that Jewell, Whelan and Gartside can come to an earlier date agreement as Jewell wants to come to Bolton and taste European football while we are still in the competition.
So if this is all true and I have no reason to doubt it, then Archie Knox will be in the hot seat until then.
Keep the faith
smithy, st helens says...
10:33pm Sat 20 Oct 07
Trotter wrote:Not another one you sound like BWFC-TIL-I-DIE he had a very reliable saurce as well read my post higher up
Paul Jewell will be the next manager at BWFC if I am led to believe facts told to me by a very reliable source. The story goes like this: Dave Whelan accepted Paul Jewell's resignation under Whelan's terms in that if Jewell did not sign for another club for 6 months then he would honour Jewell with a large lump sum of money as a pay off from Wigan Athletic as Whelan thought at the time he was jumping ship for another club, Jewell agreed this 6 months agreement but if he was to manage before this period then he would get nothing. The 6 months is up on the 14th November 2007 , so my contact who works for Sport & Entertainment Media Group informs me. Another possibility is that Jewell, Whelan and Gartside can come to an earlier date agreement as Jewell wants to come to Bolton and taste European football while we are still in the competition. So if this is all true and I have no reason to doubt it, then Archie Knox will be in the hot seat until then. Keep the faith
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Alder Brownstone, Lancashire says...
11:11am Fri 19 Oct 07
Rumour has it Hoddle will be approached and an approach for Steve Coppell was turned down also.