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Chelsea's bid for Anelka is turned down
5:39pm Monday 7th January 2008
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WANDERERS have rejected a £11million bid for Nicolas Anelka from Chelsea this afternoon.
The Londoners finally made their move for the much sought-after striker, but their approach was rebuffed by the Reebok side.
But Chelsea's opening offer is now likely to spark a bidding war with Manchester City, who have also been heavily linked with the former Arsenal, Real Madrid - and City - ace.
It is thought that Wanderers are holding out for nearer to £15m for their prized asset.
Full story in Tuesday's The Bolton News.
Tell us what you think? How much is Anelka worth? Should Wanderers sell?
Your Say YourThe Bolton News
Jonathan Macpherson, says...
5:51pm Mon 7 Jan 08
That money could mean we could buy Saviola (£4m) or Cisse (£6) - or even both and still have money to spare. Possibly to get one or two other players we have been linked with i.e Matt Taylor (£3m), Geromel (£1m), Gera (£500k)
I personally would not want Anelka to go but if it meant bringing in 4 or 5 quality players to strengthen the team then it will prob be worth it.
*hitonutd, MANCHESTER says...
5:52pm Mon 7 Jan 08
At least FSA was right to sign him and predict a healthy profit only hope it doesn't dissappear in Gartside and Davies pension funds!!!!
bwfc_1210, egerton says...
5:54pm Mon 7 Jan 08
*hitonutd, MANCHESTER says...
5:56pm Mon 7 Jan 08
What about a bid for Wes Brown,also?
owdleverender, bolton says...
5:56pm Mon 7 Jan 08
Jonathan Macpherson wrote:Bet owd gartslime bum sqeekin a bit now be good if he goes and we could get nearer 15mill but what will ginger have to spend agree with cisse/taylor/gera but will the board
If we can get £15m then that would be pretty good. Or even £11m + Ben Haim and Sidwell. That money could mean we could buy Saviola (£4m) or Cisse (£6) - or even both and still have money to spare. Possibly to get one or two other players we have been linked with i.e Matt Taylor (£3m), Geromel (£1m), Gera (£500k) I personally would not want Anelka to go but if it meant bringing in 4 or 5 quality players to strengthen the team then it will prob be worth it.
Trotter, Bolton says...
5:56pm Mon 7 Jan 08
How we fans are treated is the lowest of low's, anyway we will have the likes of Rob Hulse spearheading our attack no doubt.
Anelka must go down now if we sell him or when we sell him as one of the best we have ever had if not the most quality of players, he glides over the turf like a panther going in for a kill, my all time favourite is Jay Jay.
Like going through a mourning this expected transfer.
bwfc_1210, egerton says...
6:00pm Mon 7 Jan 08
*hitonutd, MANCHESTER says...
6:00pm Mon 7 Jan 08
Maybe Cisse, Gutherie, Taylor, Brown, Gera and Geromel are realistic targets.And with Anelkas £80thou a week wages then we could pay these players substantially more than other clubs aroun us.
trottersforever, bolton says...
6:07pm Mon 7 Jan 08
But now out of favour with them he is supposedly interested in joining us (if the papers are to be believed) I would hardly say he has been ripping up trees at marseille 16 appearances 12 starts and 4 subs and only scored 2 goals. Hardly the best replacement for Anelka.
Let him ply his trade somewhere else.
joanna, says...
6:08pm Mon 7 Jan 08
And the fee should be no less than 20 million, given the resources of the sides that want to sign him and their apparent desperation. Compare him with any other available strikers except for Berbatov, and he is clearly worth much more than 11 million, or even 15 million.
w1patrick5, warrington says...
6:09pm Mon 7 Jan 08
Stu1, Bolton says...
6:15pm Mon 7 Jan 08
Trotter, Bolton says...
6:18pm Mon 7 Jan 08
joanna wrote:Agree, we must have a replacement just like Harry wants a replacement for Taylor, £20m is NOT what we will get, more like £13m or even a player plus cash, would love TBH to come back to us then you can add Taylor which leaves a striker and the only one I can think of realisticly is Nugent, Ciise I have my doubts about given his refusal to even talk to us when he left Liverpool whom did not rate him at all and the fans were glad to get shut of him.
We must have absolutely definite quality replacements already signed up BEFORE we let him go. And the fee should be no less than 20 million, given the resources of the sides that want to sign him and their apparent desperation. Compare him with any other available strikers except for Berbatov, and he is clearly worth much more than 11 million, or even 15 million.
*hitonutd, MANCHESTER says...
6:22pm Mon 7 Jan 08
Rob, Altrincham says...
6:24pm Mon 7 Jan 08
I cannot think of anyone, who could replace him and would come to Bolton - Home of the relegation threatened whites.
Garside - Out
Trotter, Bolton says...
6:28pm Mon 7 Jan 08
Rob wrote:Rob are you serious matey, Sav is top quality and a demon in the box, squad you say, well if he is a squad player then I am Maradona.
Bolton Wanderers would not be able to replace Nic. Cisse is no way a premership goal scorer and would fustrate the fans. He has proven that with Liverpool and is even struggling in the French League. Saviola would be a good squad player but no means a 90 minute man. perfect for coming off the bench and playing behind the strikers or on the wing. I cannot think of anyone, who could replace him and would come to Bolton - Home of the relegation threatened whites. Garside - Out
Trotter, Bolton says...
6:30pm Mon 7 Jan 08
fernando, bolton says...
6:33pm Mon 7 Jan 08
If we have 15 million for Anelka we must also have the 5 million or so we were going to spend without Anelka going. 20 million would allow us to strengthen with quality throughout the team.
Guthrie should be the first signing. Then we should look at the recommendations from all the scouts that have been scouring the world. Big names don't mean goals. Arsene Wenger brings in young quality players for 3 or 4 million. We will never have this amount of cash again and need to spend for the future.
Saviola and Cisse are not the future of a club like ours. When BSA brought Anelka it was no gamble. He has scored wherever he's been and was certain do the same for us. They would be an expensive luxury and we can't afford to write off 4 or 6 million.
golferstu, Horwich says...
6:34pm Mon 7 Jan 08
One word springs to mind 'AMBITION'.
We are a selling club thats a fact.
bwfc_1210, egerton says...
6:36pm Mon 7 Jan 08
Trotter, Bolton says...
6:37pm Mon 7 Jan 08
fernando wrote:Every word true to the bone and exactly what I was thinking of.
With millions to spend we should be looking at younger strikers with potential, hunger and speed. Cisse and Saviola are not suited to our type of football. They will expect quality distribution from midfield and they wont get it. We need a replacement who will score some goals but we also need quality in defence and midfielders who will also get goals. If we have 15 million for Anelka we must also have the 5 million or so we were going to spend without Anelka going. 20 million would allow us to strengthen with quality throughout the team. Guthrie should be the first signing. Then we should look at the recommendations from all the scouts that have been scouring the world. Big names don't mean goals. Arsene Wenger brings in young quality players for 3 or 4 million. We will never have this amount of cash again and need to spend for the future. Saviola and Cisse are not the future of a club like ours. When BSA brought Anelka it was no gamble. He has scored wherever he's been and was certain do the same for us. They would be an expensive luxury and we can't afford to write off 4 or 6 million.
Perhaps the best post today on this site.
Keep the faith
Paul, Deane says...
6:39pm Mon 7 Jan 08
None of the mentioned possible replacements are anywhere near Anelkas class, and will not guarantee us the goals needed to stay up.
It now seems as though no club outside the "big 4" is allowed to have a world class player, even Spurs are going to struggle to hold on to Berbatov once one of the big 4 decide they want him. No wonder crowds are falling.
If the worst does come to the worst we should insist on Ben Haim being part of the deal.
amosc99, Overseas says...
6:39pm Mon 7 Jan 08
Anelka goes for 15mill what will Megson get = 2million (fact) with no extra money coming from elsewhere. The rest supposedly going toward the upkeep of the club, debt and players wages (possible business talk for directors pay and pension!!!)
bwfc_1210, egerton says...
6:42pm Mon 7 Jan 08
joanna, says...
6:49pm Mon 7 Jan 08
Guthrie in midfield with Andranik would be a zestful engine, needing a quality holding midfielder behind them to be bought in the transfer window. Obviously we need to purchase a couple of quality defenders too.
But Anelka is irreplaceable because of the guarantee of premiership goals that no one else could promise and deliver, unless we had silly money...and players costing that sort of fee would not come to Bolton. Remember even Cisse said we were in the third tier of premiership teams and was not interested. If we were to sell Nic, we MUST have a replacement of quality on the books already! Don't gamble with our premiership status; it is false economy!
barbarossa, poulton le fylde says...
6:51pm Mon 7 Jan 08
Jacko, Little Lever says...
6:56pm Mon 7 Jan 08
Josh 8, bolton says...
6:59pm Mon 7 Jan 08
There is no replacement for Nic and i doubt there ever will be unless we finish 4th sometime. (I can dream!)
Andy W, Cumbria says...
7:00pm Mon 7 Jan 08
BSA didn't build this club. He did it in partnership with Gartside, Davies and lots of other people. Neither Bolton or Newcastle are doing as well as they should and that's because BSA needs the sort of support he received at Bolton (the support that HE chose to walk out on).
Neither Gartside nor Eddie Davies want us to be relegated. To say that they do or that they're not capable of taking us back up the table again is simply stupid talk. They were part of the team that took us into Europe twice.
Gartside out - rubbish. Bolton fans = worse fans in the world and I'm ashamed of 80% of them.
Danny G, Bolton says...
7:12pm Mon 7 Jan 08
Trotter wrote:Yep, cant see him swapping the Bernabau for the Reebok, we will end up with Nugent!!
By the way Rob we have NO CHANCE of getting Saviola.
Brownie, Bolton says...
7:16pm Mon 7 Jan 08
We should get at least 15k and of this at least 10k should be spent on new players, plus what already has been put aside. (Quote from Megson 'I don't need to sell before I can bring players in' ) If Gartside sells Nic and does not use most of the money to bring in good players, then All THE FANS SHOULD BOYCOTT THE REEBOK. One of the advantages of having a player like Nic is he attracts other players. If he goes a good amount of money will have to be spent on other players to show Bolton still mean business and are not going to let the club slide into obscurity. The fan's have had enough of mediocracy disgracing the white shirt, we want players with skill and determination in abundance, Mr. Chairman!
Happy Wanderer, Farnworth says...
7:17pm Mon 7 Jan 08
Cisse is finished, Saviola wouldn't come to Bolton in a million years!!
Like I suggested previously, it's likely to be a championship replacement or Nugent(sorry another championship player)
Lets accept the £12 million only if they will take Cid, Michalik, and Braaten as part of the deal..Lets face it, all three are a drain on the clubs wages..Get Rid or if not show Braaten the Gym and how to Run!!
hatemanu, bolton says...
7:17pm Mon 7 Jan 08
fernando, bolton says...
7:17pm Mon 7 Jan 08
barbarossa wrote:If chelsea make a reasonable offer of 15 million and we turn them down and lose Nic the chance of champions league football, then he will not be content for long! I don't see any other option although I would love to keep him.
There is absolutely no reason to sell Anelka.The player is content and is on a long-term contract.In our present position his sale would be tantamount to suicide.Gartslime should be seeking only to strengthen a weak team.He has a duty to the club's supporters.
Happy Wanderer, Farnworth says...
7:18pm Mon 7 Jan 08
John Byrom, Bolton says...
7:27pm Mon 7 Jan 08
Andy W wrote:Not negative just realistic!
Why are you lot on here such negative idiots? BSA didn't build this club. He did it in partnership with Gartside, Davies and lots of other people. Neither Bolton or Newcastle are doing as well as they should and that's because BSA needs the sort of support he received at Bolton (the support that HE chose to walk out on). Neither Gartside nor Eddie Davies want us to be relegated. To say that they do or that they're not capable of taking us back up the table again is simply stupid talk. They were part of the team that took us into Europe twice. Gartside out - rubbish. Bolton fans = worse fans in the world and I'm ashamed of 80% of them.
Something you would be unaware of residing in K2 Ward!!
davie, leigh says...
7:34pm Mon 7 Jan 08
Diouf gone to play in Africa.
Anelka will go to the highest bidder.
Who the Hell is going to score the goals to get us 20pts.
Nugent is not as good as Pederson.
Cisse is garbage.
Blackburn will beat us on Sunday.
Then the rot will set in .
We saw our Fringe players last Saturday.
I fear the worse.
6 wins 2 draws ,5 wins, 5 draws .
I am having a panic attack here!
big gums, lincoln says...
7:37pm Mon 7 Jan 08
smithy, st helens says...
7:45pm Mon 7 Jan 08
bwfc_1210 wrote:
done well to reject £11m...didn't think we'd have the balls to reject that.
Spot on bwfc 1210
Or may be the board have got balls for once after rejecting the bid for Anelka, It should be more like 20 mill, Or may be because i called the board last night PG and the blood sucking scum whitch had been removed today.
Wanderer515, Bolton says...
7:55pm Mon 7 Jan 08
Son of Sasa, Bolton says...
7:58pm Mon 7 Jan 08
golferstu wrote:Get serious pal - every club is a selling club if the price is right. If we do get 15 million then it will have been good business. We knew that Nic would'nt stay long (he never does), and he has never made a secret of his ambition to play in the Champions League. The worst thing we can do is turn down a good offer. This will just antagonise him, and
In selling Anelka Gartslime has undone in 9 months what BS took 9 years trying to build.
One word springs to mind 'AMBITION'.
We are a selling club thats a fact.
he will not play for Megson. Anelka is class, and virtually irreplaceable, but life goes on, and we will have to try and find someone else.
And before the Gartside haters jump on the bandwagon remember who authorised the Anelka purchase in the first place.
Son of Sasa, Bolton says...
8:03pm Mon 7 Jan 08
Brownie wrote:Brownie - Thought the fans had already boycotted the Reebok, or did my eyes deceive me at the weekend? Supporting a team is all about good and bad times, and you are perfectly entitled to your opinions, but witholding support benefits noone, and makes the job of attracting new signings even more difficult.
Cheeky bl--dy Chelsea. Think what they paid us for Eider Gudjohnson.
We should get at least 15k and of this at least 10k should be spent on new players, plus what already has been put aside. (Quote from Megson 'I don't need to sell before I can bring players in' ) If Gartside sells Nic and does not use most of the money to bring in good players, then All THE FANS SHOULD BOYCOTT THE REEBOK. One of the advantages of having a player like Nic is he attracts other players. If he goes a good amount of money will have to be spent on other players to show Bolton still mean business and are not going to let the club slide into obscurity. The fan's have had enough of mediocracy disgracing the white shirt, we want players with skill and determination in abundance, Mr. Chairman!
Gareth B, Chorley says...
8:14pm Mon 7 Jan 08
The obvious thing that concerns me in all this is where would we be without Anelkas goals ? Bottom of the league behind Derby probably !! Can we all remember that it took Anelka around 10 games to score for the Wanderers and he is absolute quality . We have no-one in the team capable of 10 goals and therefore need to spend to replace . The danger in this is that a £5M spent on a Cisse ( not proven in Premiership ) or Saviola ( amazed if he came !! ) or a Lita ( not fit to polish Nics boots ) or a Nugent ( cant cut it at Pompey )is more of a gamble than keeping Anelka even though he may be gutted at losing out on his dream move.
My advice - keep Nic unless we get a £20M bid and spend the £5m we have on re-inforcing the defence that hasnt been the same since Tal Ben Haim and Faye left.
BWFC - TIL - I - DIE, BOLTON says...
8:15pm Mon 7 Jan 08
WORRYING TIMES.....
Danny G, Bolton says...
8:16pm Mon 7 Jan 08
I say 7 Million Total with another 10 if we stay up!
BWFC - TIL - I - DIE, BOLTON says...
8:23pm Mon 7 Jan 08
James, Westhoughton says...
8:26pm Mon 7 Jan 08
LOVE BOLTON, HATE GARTSIDE
A despot chairman with NO AMBITION!!
I think the campaign will be up and running again within a week.
Thanks for the memories Nic, hope the splinters dont hurt your a**e too much when Drogba returns from the ACN.
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amosc99, Overseas says...
8:28pm Mon 7 Jan 08
bwfc_1210 wrote:that is wishful thinking - knowing Gartside and Davies they will keep the most and gove egson veryy little to spend with. That's what has happened over thae last 8 years or so when we have made profit from selling players.
if we get £15million, we will spend at least £10million on other players.
smithy, st helens says...
8:31pm Mon 7 Jan 08
Dont for get when Eider Gudjohnson came to Bolton he had an ankle injury which we payed for and got him fully fit, Money was tight he was hower top asset at that time we sold him to Chelsea for 4 mill then thay went and sold him for 8 mill.So will this happen agane with Anelka get him on the cheap and sell him on for megger bucks. Tal Ben Haim went to Chelsea for free now thay want to sell him to Newcasle for 2 mill why can't we be like Chelsea on the selling of players and stop giving them away
*hitonutd, MANCHESTER says...
8:32pm Mon 7 Jan 08
amosc99 wrote:amosc99
bwfc_1210 wrote:that is wishful thinking - knowing Gartside and Davies they will keep the most and gove egson veryy little to spend with. That's what has happened over thae last 8 years or so when we have made profit from selling players.
if we get £15million, we will spend at least £10million on other players.
What have you been drinking?Gove me thae name our your veryy strong brew!!!!
amosc99, Overseas says...
8:38pm Mon 7 Jan 08
Anyway just to re-iterate Megson will have at most 4million to spend on new players and that IS being optimistic - just look back over the last 8 years at the amount we have spent during the season/january window!!!
Relegation battle, here we come
bwfc_1210, egerton says...
8:43pm Mon 7 Jan 08
kenglowhite, Bolton says...
8:43pm Mon 7 Jan 08
*hitonutd, MANCHESTER says...
8:45pm Mon 7 Jan 08
amosc99, Overseas says...
8:46pm Mon 7 Jan 08
Add that to what could be already 2 million for spending we have less than 4 million which is my optimistic amount!!!
Theres_only_one_J_By
rom, Bolton says...
8:46pm Mon 7 Jan 08
They will spend what they believe is needed to survive and no more.
If we stay up then spend more, if we go down then they will not have @wasted@ too much.
Garside is not a risk taker, they knew that they would get a decent return on Anelka given BSA track record with Youri, JJ , Hiero etc..
I feel we will get prem lge fighters or chumpionship players at best, can't see Saviola swapping the sun & sangria for Greenhalgh's pies, can you??
As for TBH if he had wanted to stay at Bolton he would have signed a new contract last year, he will go to spuds.
JB, Across the pond says...
8:47pm Mon 7 Jan 08
amosc99, Overseas says...
8:49pm Mon 7 Jan 08
*hitonutd wrote:The money we have had from television in previous years should have cleared our debt at least 4 years ago - but didn't. So where did that money go????????
I am the eternal optimist and think for once Gartside will put the money back into the team.After all we are supposedly getting £50m from Sky monies and that should see our debts wiped out.Gartside must realise that spending on replacements is the only way that our gates will increase.The forward line with Davies as the spearhead has done us good for the last few years.So although losing the prestige of having Anelka in the team I don't think it will such a loss,IF WE SPEND ON QUALITY.AND SPEND WE MUST to fill the gaps in defence and midfield.
golferstu, Horwich says...
8:51pm Mon 7 Jan 08
Son of Sasa wrote:I see all our relegation rivals are selling their best players at the moment!!!.
golferstu wrote: In selling Anelka Gartslime has undone in 9 months what BS took 9 years trying to build. One word springs to mind 'AMBITION'. We are a selling club thats a fact.Get serious pal - every club is a selling club if the price is right. If we do get 15 million then it will have been good business. We knew that Nic would'nt stay long (he never does), and he has never made a secret of his ambition to play in the Champions League. The worst thing we can do is turn down a good offer. This will just antagonise him, and he will not play for Megson. Anelka is class, and virtually irreplaceable, but life goes on, and we will have to try and find someone else. And before the Gartside haters jump on the bandwagon remember who authorised the Anelka purchase in the first place.
If Gartslime had backed Big Sam with some money instead of expecting him to beg,borrow and steal then he would still be manager, we wouldn't be now in a relegation scrap and our prized asset may just may have wanted to stay.
Oh and one more thing 6-7 thousand people every home game seem to have same thought.
As i said in my first quote 9 months to undo 9 years work.
Theres_only_one_J_By
rom, Bolton says...
8:51pm Mon 7 Jan 08
dazthegolfer, Devon says...
8:55pm Mon 7 Jan 08
Andy W wrote:Negative Idiots eh??????????????????
Why are you lot on here such negative idiots? BSA didn't build this club. He did it in partnership with Gartside, Davies and lots of other people. Neither Bolton or Newcastle are doing as well as they should and that's because BSA needs the sort of support he received at Bolton (the support that HE chose to walk out on). Neither Gartside nor Eddie Davies want us to be relegated. To say that they do or that they're not capable of taking us back up the table again is simply stupid talk. They were part of the team that took us into Europe twice. Gartside out - rubbish. Bolton fans = worse fans in the world and I'm ashamed of 80% of them.
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Worst fans in the world???????????????
???????? what is this bloke drinking, £4m for gudjohnson, letting fay go NUFC, TBH to Cheslea for FREE, Jussi away in the summer, is this Gartside & Davies building the club, i would hate to see it if they was going to strip it, come on wake up mate smell the bacon, it is asset stripping, TBH & Jussi should have been tied to long term deals at least 18 months before the end of the contracts, i do beleive that these negiotations are left to the chairman of the club, they see us struggling in the league appoint a cheap yes sir no sir manager, Davies wants out, if we go down then his value of the club will go down so the thought of £12-£15mil for Nic should soften the blow for him, as Davies actually put money into this club NO he as guaranteed loans thats all, it all comes down to bad management that we are still so much in debt, thats why BSA left he wasnt given money, take last year pushing for top 4 in Prem we bought no one in Jan to strengthen, i have it on good authority that he had been told not to look as there was no money in the pot, and lets just look at opur chairman, on this BEN website there is a section Phil Gartside: On the Spot, he hasnt been on the spot WELL NOT SINCE AUG ANYWAY, Gartslime as to go
amosc99, Overseas says...
8:56pm Mon 7 Jan 08
dazthegolfer, Devon says...
9:04pm Mon 7 Jan 08
amosc99 wrote:I agree, 8 years spent very little, alot less than we have sold, plus all thsi money from sky, we was promised in 2003 that all the sky money would wipe out the debts, yet i hear we still owe £42mil, we didnt owe that in 1997 after we built the reebok, supposed to be £34-£37mill, oh i forgot one of the directors companies won the contract to build the hotel anoth £11mill, and ANDY W thinks we are idiots, come on ANDY W were as all the sky money gone????????????????
only been on strepsils - didn't realise they were that potent until I read the label - 2.5pct alochol in each tablet!!!!! - who needs beer!!!!! Anyway just to re-iterate Megson will have at most 4million to spend on new players and that IS being optimistic - just look back over the last 8 years at the amount we have spent during the season/january window!!! Relegation battle, here we come
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*hitonutd, MANCHESTER says...
9:07pm Mon 7 Jan 08
amosc99 wrote:I think the money coming in has gone to service our debt interest and pay wages(since lets face it our gate money doesn't amount to much).But if the £50m figure is correct then as long as we stay up then our debt should be gone in two years time.I really want us to show some ambition and SPEND now
but what about the television money before Anelka joined??? When we first moved in to the Reebok our debt was about 35million it is now over 47 million but in telelvision rights we have had over 100million (approx - going off what we got last year and trying to work out previous years and Division 1 TV rights) over the same period of time
katieb, bolton says...
9:09pm Mon 7 Jan 08
amosc99, Overseas says...
9:10pm Mon 7 Jan 08
bwfc_1210, egerton says...
9:13pm Mon 7 Jan 08
*hitonutd, MANCHESTER says...
9:15pm Mon 7 Jan 08
amosc99 wrote:Yes I know I lost thousands in the share fiasco and still rue the day we left Burnden. But now that the club is a closed company the owner and directors can skim off MILLIONS in fees and charges.But from what I've seen of the latest figures our income just matches our outgoings,so if the sky money doesn't seriously reduce the debt then I think the owner and board have taken us all for fools.
I have heard that reasoning so many gtimes but IF we do stay up over next couple of seasons and out debt has NOT gone I bet the reasons will be servicing the higher wage demand and paying off the interest on the HIGHER debt!!! That's what they said a couple of seasons ago when Big Sam only have 2million to spend one summer!!!!
amosc99, Overseas says...
9:16pm Mon 7 Jan 08
bwfc_1210 wrote:Have they ever done that in the past under this present set of directors? Why should they start now???
surely bwfc should come out with a statement, telling the fans what is going on and what they are planning on doing regarding anelka, for example, the minimum price he will leave for etc.
They have isolated the fans - hence low gates as the fans are fed up of being treated by dirt by the bosses of the club they suppport!!!
katieb, bolton says...
9:16pm Mon 7 Jan 08
*hitonutd, MANCHESTER says...
9:18pm Mon 7 Jan 08
amosc99, Overseas says...
9:20pm Mon 7 Jan 08
katieb wrote:now tell that to the players agents - they are the ones who actually tout the players for business - why? so that the agents can claim their 10pct.
Players should be held to contracts, they are worth less really if they arent kept to them
Today's football ia bout agents, television and sponsors - decent players and fans no longer exist according to the fottablling board (well at Bolton it seems that way!!!)
joegreen1, bolton says...
9:20pm Mon 7 Jan 08
amosc99, Overseas says...
9:23pm Mon 7 Jan 08
*hitonutd wrote:they tried to make us out as fools with Sammy Lee and previous errors!!!! They will always continue to make us out as fools until they sell the club (which is their true intention, I believe!!)
amosc99 wrote: I have heard that reasoning so many gtimes but IF we do stay up over next couple of seasons and out debt has NOT gone I bet the reasons will be servicing the higher wage demand and paying off the interest on the HIGHER debt!!! That's what they said a couple of seasons ago when Big Sam only have 2million to spend one summer!!!!Yes I know I lost thousands in the share fiasco and still rue the day we left Burnden. But now that the club is a closed company the owner and directors can skim off MILLIONS in fees and charges.But from what I've seen of the latest figures our income just matches our outgoings,so if the sky money doesn't seriously reduce the debt then I think the owner and board have taken us all for fools.
amosc99, Overseas says...
9:26pm Mon 7 Jan 08
joegreen1 wrote:Inevitable that Anelka is going - apart from Anelka who is Bolton's next consistent top goal scorer???
I dont understand all you people. Its not a top goalscorer we need its a new defence. Meite and Andy Obrien have shown they are not up to the task and what cover have me got ? Michalik ? Who else ?
That is why we need a top goal scorer for when he goes!!!
But, yes, we do also need a proper defence but where would you spend the money to get the higher return - remember we do not have a bottomless pot like the big 4 but are limited to about 4million!!!
bwfc_1210, egerton says...
9:27pm Mon 7 Jan 08
BWFC - TIL - I - DIE, BOLTON says...
9:29pm Mon 7 Jan 08
amosc99, Overseas says...
9:34pm Mon 7 Jan 08
BWFC - TIL - I - DIE wrote:You read it!!!!
did i read in yesterdays paper that wolves were considering sammy lee as their next manager or did i dream it??
He could actually do better than what he did at Bolton.....
Firstly its in the lower leagues and not the Premier League
Secondly MOST managers that have failed miserably on their first attempy have normally gone on to successful managerial careers
Thirdly - can't think of anything else!!!!!!
katieb, bolton says...
9:34pm Mon 7 Jan 08
BWFC - TIL - I - DIE, BOLTON says...
9:36pm Mon 7 Jan 08
amosc99 wrote:hahaha, i wait in anticipation.....
BWFC - TIL - I - DIE wrote: did i read in yesterdays paper that wolves were considering sammy lee as their next manager or did i dream it??You read it!!!! He could actually do better than what he did at Bolton..... Firstly its in the lower leagues and not the Premier League Secondly MOST managers that have failed miserably on their first attempy have normally gone on to successful managerial careers Thirdly - can't think of anything else!!!!!!
Rob, Worsley says...
9:41pm Mon 7 Jan 08
Danny G, Bolton says...
9:42pm Mon 7 Jan 08
waffer cup 07, Darwen says...
9:44pm Mon 7 Jan 08
Lord Lucan, Somewhere says...
9:44pm Mon 7 Jan 08
Our goal machine is going and the real agenda this year is for survival, pure and simple. The way to do that is to invest in defence and defensive midfielders and pray for more clean sheets and the odd 1-0 win here and there (probably only 5 or 6 needed this year). Those who bothered to turn-up on Saturday and weren't Sheff U supporters, ie not many, will have seen the prime example - Tamir Cohen ; a sparky defensive midfielder who'll get a shedfull of yellows the way he tackles.
Fartside will be worried by the signing disasters of last summer - eg Daniel Braaten and Christian Willhelmson (a left wing version of Vaz Te?), Cid and so-on. So the wallet chastity belt will be firmly clasped shut and the key lost in the IoM if Avram waves his wad.
Chelsea are gagging for Anelka - Drogba will exit at the season end and is absent for a month from now anyway. Anelka is prem league fit and scoring like Sven in Ikon. So, anything less than £15m means that Eddy D has the second symptom of senility (the first being an investment in a football club).
To get a proper Anelka replacement will cost the same again or more, so either don't let him go or replace him with defenders and stick a goal bound rocket up your midfield and Kevin Davies. No doubt a sports hypnotist can have Davo convinced that he is Sheffield's answer to Pele. This is all in Fartside's cunning plan and Ginga was "only following orders" if it all goes horribly wrong.
The thing is - season ticket sales will drop below 10k. Face it: the club's ambition has gone into reverse and five year's hard labour has been unwound in 5 months. Sammy Lee gave us quantity, not quality - confused the two and thought that we could play like a smart price Liverpool. Fartside went along with it, because it was cheap and shorty couldn't possibly get us relegated, could he? Well, alarmingly, he could and a Ginga needed to be hired to achieve just anything at all better than 18th. So no point fans turning up in Belgrade or the Carling or the FA Cup, because they were all just training games.
bolton85, Cornwall, UK says...
9:52pm Mon 7 Jan 08
Danny G, Bolton says...
9:53pm Mon 7 Jan 08
Lord Lucan wrote:Good Post, thats Exactly what I thought i just couldnt be bothered typing it!!
Why is everyone getting carried away by potential big money signings ... that aren't going to happen? Why would we want a mis-firing Cisse when we've got plenty of those already?
Our goal machine is going and the real agenda this year is for survival, pure and simple. The way to do that is to invest in defence and defensive midfielders and pray for more clean sheets and the odd 1-0 win here and there (probably only 5 or 6 needed this year). Those who bothered to turn-up on Saturday and weren't Sheff U supporters, ie not many, will have seen the prime example - Tamir Cohen ; a sparky defensive midfielder who'll get a shedfull of yellows the way he tackles.
Fartside will be worried by the signing disasters of last summer - eg Daniel Braaten and Christian Willhelmson (a left wing version of Vaz Te?), Cid and so-on. So the wallet chastity belt will be firmly clasped shut and the key lost in the IoM if Avram waves his wad.
Chelsea are gagging for Anelka - Drogba will exit at the season end and is absent for a month from now anyway. Anelka is prem league fit and scoring like Sven in Ikon. So, anything less than £15m means that Eddy D has the second symptom of senility (the first being an investment in a football club).
To get a proper Anelka replacement will cost the same again or more, so either don't let him go or replace him with defenders and stick a goal bound rocket up your midfield and Kevin Davies. No doubt a sports hypnotist can have Davo convinced that he is Sheffield's answer to Pele. This is all in Fartside's cunning plan and Ginga was "only following orders" if it all goes horribly wrong.
The thing is - season ticket sales will drop below 10k. Face it: the club's ambition has gone into reverse and five year's hard labour has been unwound in 5 months. Sammy Lee gave us quantity, not quality - confused the two and thought that we could play like a smart price Liverpool. Fartside went along with it, because it was cheap and shorty couldn't possibly get us relegated, could he? Well, alarmingly, he could and a Ginga needed to be hired to achieve just anything at all better than 18th. So no point fans turning up in Belgrade or the Carling or the FA Cup, because they were all just training games.
Cisse fookin no chance, that helmet slagged us off last season before he joined marseille, now he aint getting a game hes interested again!!
Chris, Radcliffe says...
10:23pm Mon 7 Jan 08
20 million not a penny less.Chelsea are the club that paid 23million for Shaun Wright Philips and £30 odd million for a past it Shevchenko. Why the hell should they get Anelka for 12 or 15 million.
20 million not a penny less.Chelsea are the club that paid 23million for Shaun Wright Philips and £30 odd million for a past it Shevchenko. Why the hell should they get Anelka for 12 or 15 million.
I agree with this, but it's all about how much the board need? or want money. Drogba appearing to be on the move at the end of this season surely ups the price as well.
It's bluff and double bluff...will Chelsea offer say £13M and say final offer, take it or leave it.. and really mean that. I don't think so.
Don't forget we are talking about a player whose goals could win Chelsea the Champions League, which is what the owner desperately wants. And who else out there is eligible to play for Chelsea of such quality?
I would say no, no and no until they offer in the region of £20M. Having said that, if Anelka does go, just who will score the goals which will keep Bolton up?
heyesy19, bolton says...
10:27pm Mon 7 Jan 08
Brownie wrote:brownie are you gartside in disguise 10k , 15k, ?? you are a tight ****
Cheeky bl--dy Chelsea. Think what they paid us for Eider Gudjohnson. We should get at least 15k and of this at least 10k should be spent on new players, plus what already has been put aside. (Quote from Megson 'I don't need to sell before I can bring players in' ) If Gartside sells Nic and does not use most of the money to bring in good players, then All THE FANS SHOULD BOYCOTT THE REEBOK. One of the advantages of having a player like Nic is he attracts other players. If he goes a good amount of money will have to be spent on other players to show Bolton still mean business and are not going to let the club slide into obscurity. The fan's have had enough of mediocracy disgracing the white shirt, we want players with skill and determination in abundance, Mr. Chairman!
heyesy19, bolton says...
10:35pm Mon 7 Jan 08
Wanderer515 wrote:don't care about his investments, we need to progress and show the world that we are not little bolton, eddie needs to go if he is not a big man, i have contacted michael bolton so see if he is interested, he onced had a baseball team called 'bolton wanderers'
It seems that one or two have forgotten that Mr Davies bought Anelka out of his own pocket, and if you think for one minute that he will not want his 8 million investment back I'm afraid you might be mistaken. 8 million = Taylor 3m (if a player of his age and quality fancies us) plus 5m on a risky centre forward. (Lita etc). Although I love your enthusiasm, keep it up it makes a change for some of you lot.
J4, Bolton says...
10:36pm Mon 7 Jan 08
Chris, Radcliffe says...
10:36pm Mon 7 Jan 08
Dont forget FSA brought most of these so called class players in and are unfit or played park football. After watching them trying to perform on Saturday if I was Megson I would ship them out as soon as possible and spend the money if any,getting a decent player mind you 1,000 pound would not go far. As for Anelka 18m would be the asking price no matter who came in for him. Jussi is also wanted by a number of clubs I hope Bolton see the light and get something for him before another club gets him for sweet fanny adams like TBH to Chelsea, because he will go. BOLTON SUPER WHITES.
Dont forget FSA brought most of these so called class players in and are unfit or played park football. After watching them trying to perform on Saturday if I was Megson I would ship them out as soon as possible and spend the money if any,getting a decent player mind you 1,000 pound would not go far. As for Anelka 18m would be the asking price no matter who came in for him. Jussi is also wanted by a number of clubs I hope Bolton see the light and get something for him before another club gets him for sweet fanny adams like TBH to Chelsea, because he will go. BOLTON SUPER WHITES.
He is a free agent at the end of the season and it would appear that he will go for nothing. Basically Bolton paid £3M (i.e. they turned down an offer from Sunderland for this amount)for his services for this season plus wages, with the able Al-Habsi in the wings. So surely it's too late to get a transfer fee now unless a club is desparate enough to shell out now instead of waiting till the end of the season?
dazthegolfer, Devon says...
10:40pm Mon 7 Jan 08
Danny G wrote:A slimy director got the contract to build the hotel, just over £11mill
How can our debt go from 35 Million in 1997 to 47 Million In 2007?? Am I missing something, how is this possible with all the TV money (100 mill), the fact they we have made more money on selling players in this period than what we have spent, and we have finished in the top 8 for the last few seasons, id love to see the clubs books for the last few years, something is not right!!
dazthegolfer, Devon says...
10:49pm Mon 7 Jan 08
amosc99 wrote:Great post, we do need a replacement for Nic when (not if) he goes, come on Eddie get your cheque book out, you got the club from teh shareholders for peanuts, now show us what you are made of, and show us all that you mean business and get us back up the league
joegreen1 wrote: I dont understand all you people. Its not a top goalscorer we need its a new defence. Meite and Andy Obrien have shown they are not up to the task and what cover have me got ? Michalik ? Who else ?Inevitable that Anelka is going - apart from Anelka who is Bolton's next consistent top goal scorer??? That is why we need a top goal scorer for when he goes!!! But, yes, we do also need a proper defence but where would you spend the money to get the higher return - remember we do not have a bottomless pot like the big 4 but are limited to about 4million!!!
Jacko, Little Lever says...
10:55pm Mon 7 Jan 08
ozlife, qld,australia says...
11:35pm Mon 7 Jan 08
remember we sold gudjonson took years too replace him and sold him for nothing just as we normally do
gordon lythgoe, says...
7:43am Tue 8 Jan 08
Chelsea love Bolton.
Eider £4m TBH Free.
Anelka half price.
Who the hell is going to score the goals to keep us up?
Only memories left now
,Youri,Jay Jay, Bruno,
Hierro,Mende.
I KEPT SAYING YOU HAVE TO ENJOY THE GOOD TIMES IN FOOTBALL
BECAUSE FORTUNES CHANGE SO QUICKLY.
gordon lythgoe, says...
7:52am Tue 8 Jan 08
That Hat trick against Ipswich was simply top class.
YouriLeGod, Bolton says...
7:53am Tue 8 Jan 08
Now is a very important time for the club. How much ambition have the board got? Will we reinvest the Anelka money or will it disappear down the cracks in the sofa in the boardroom?
My gut feeling is that we won't get it all, but will get somewhere in the middle, possibly about £7M from the Anelka sale.
If that is true we will struggle to replace Anelka's goals, which to be honest have kept us as high as we are in the league. So, as someone says above, worrying times.
My personal choice for a new forward would be the guy from Heerenveen, Alfonso Alves who has a strike record of something like a goal a game this season and banged them in last season as well. I've seen him quoted in the press at about £7M, so he might be affordable.
We also need a couple of defenders, so we should hold out for Ben Haim back as part of the fee. Plus lets also have Scott Sinclair on loan till the end of the season.
In reality, as I've just remembered I'm a Bolton fan, we will probably aim lower and pray we survive.
Forza Whites!
Andy, Staffordshire says...
7:57am Tue 8 Jan 08
gordon lythgoe, says...
8:00am Tue 8 Jan 08
Trotter, Bolton says...
8:06am Tue 8 Jan 08
gordon lythgoe mentioned Fredi Bobic and it will take a player like him to keep us up, we once found 2 great strikers in McGinlay & Walker, please oh please let that happen again.
Please step forward our saviour!!
Nik, London says...
8:35am Tue 8 Jan 08
Trotter, Bolton says...
8:54am Tue 8 Jan 08
OB, says...
8:57am Tue 8 Jan 08
on and, on says...
9:00am Tue 8 Jan 08
Andy wrote:any chance you could sort out my tax return?
There seems to be some confusion as to how the company has slid further and further into debt despite it's steady income from Sky.The answer at The Reebok is the same as at any other commercial concern; too many employees taking too many salaries.Just a few names over the years will illustrate the point; Chris Armstrong, Michael Bridges, Ian Walker, Akin Bulent, Idan Tal, John Salako, Robbie Elliot, etc. There is a pretty long list of players who have sucked a very good living out of our club for no great return. Add to them the current crop of high earning "extras" in the Reebok drama e.g. Alonso, Wilhelmsson, Braaten, Samuel, Cid, Andranik and you soon see where all the money has gone and is going.In common with most other businesses this football club is being crippled not by it's capital expenditure(transfer fees) but by it's expenses(players' salaries).Is Anelka worth £80k a week? Probably not. Is £80k a week for Anelka better value than employing Braaten, Samuel and Cid? Definately yes.If the club managed it's outgoings better the debt would not grow given the captive income of Sky. The clear out will either come by good management in the Premier or by pure economics in the Championship. It is the job of the executive of this club to decide which it is to be.
fernando, bolton says...
9:20am Tue 8 Jan 08
The fact is that we will now have more money available than ever before and we need to buy not just to stay up, but also for the future. I do not want a Ginger Mourinho at this stage, but I would like a Ginger Wenger to plan for the future and not to panic buy big names who will probably do naff all.
BWFC - TIL - I - DIE, BOLTON says...
9:47am Tue 8 Jan 08
Aidan, sheffield says...
10:09am Tue 8 Jan 08
I was reading fans notes above and cannot believe there are people who want Wes Brown. I could understand O'Shea, versatile and consistant but Wes Brown is an absolute liability.
In terms of a replacement i really want Saviola, and did last summer and the summer before that but im not convinced we can attract him. Even if we do get Saviola or Cisse i would still go in for Nugent as well. It would be nice to have 4 players competing for 3 positions and stop them getting stale.
I think taylor would be good but Gera has always played well against us and would be a much cheaper alternative if a bidding war starts for Taylor. Bobo balde would be better than Morgan, both are animals but Balde is very quick, not the best ball player but what defenders at Bolton are? Ben Hiam coming back would be good, Sidwell take him or leave him, he has only had one decent season. Also Ben Saha the young Isrealy striker at Chelsea would be amazing, young, keen, and isnt expected to play every week.
Finally i feel gutted for Andranik, how can he not get in a failing sides second string. He should be at least on the bench every week, he is an impact player who can play in the middle or on the right, yet the pudding Wilhelmson get in front of him, also surely Saturdays game would have been perfect for Alonso, a ball playing midfielder, not even on the bench. Megson is starting to worry me.
kenglowhite, Bolton says...
10:13am Tue 8 Jan 08
As for that chronic rheumatic Eddie Davies, his initials say it all. Dysfunction in every way possible!!
Martin Crompton, Bolton says...
10:28am Tue 8 Jan 08
The club are in a very good bargaining position anyway with this and I don't think they really need to sell him. If necessary they could still cash in at the end of the season.
Martin Crompton, Bolton says...
10:30am Tue 8 Jan 08
The club are in a very good bargaining position anyway with this and I don't think they really need to sell him. If necessary they could still cash in at the end of the season.
Jon, Bolton says...
10:45am Tue 8 Jan 08
Martin Crompton wrote:Which is all well and good, but there are mounting reports that Anelka desperately wants to go to Chelsea.
Whatever money is offered for Anelka, we must not sell him this season. He is our goal scorer and is crucial to us staying up and progressing up the table. The club are in a very good bargaining position anyway with this and I don't think they really need to sell him. If necessary they could still cash in at the end of the season.
He might be all well and "happy" at Bolton but IF we don't let him have his move he could well go on a famous sulk and mean that we only get 5 or 6M for him in the summer, if anyone still wants him.
Facts are he is leaving the club in January. The only questions are how much for, and who do we bring into the club to replace him and also to strengthen the side.
All the numpties slagging Gartside off need to take a look at the fact that Eddie Davies' money bought Anelka and he was always going to want some of it back someday. We also have an increasing debt, mainly due to lost fan revenue and increased player salaries.
Less fans and more expensive players = losing money big time.
As a club we need to sell Anelka for as much as possible and invest what we can in players who can keep us up (not necessarily expensive big stars with big egos).
Bolton have ONLY ever sold ONE player for less than his real worth since Gartside was chairman and that was Gudjohnsen, where we had no choice as the club was days away from going into administration and Chelsea were the only club he'd go to.
Aidan, sheffield says...
11:19am Tue 8 Jan 08
However there is no loss of fans revenue this season, with the new premiership money this year. If no one at all went to the home matches the clubs would still make the same amounts as they did last year. So any money for tickets is all a bonus this year.
Trotter, Bolton says...
11:31am Tue 8 Jan 08
All the numpties slagging Gartside off need to take a look at the fact that Eddie Davies' money bought Anelka
I can perhaps put all the numpties more in the picture in that Gartside instigated Davies appointment at Old Trafford during h/t at one particular game there, the first words out of Davies's mouth were "how much will it cost me" Gartside assured Davies that it would not cost him a penny, the rest is history so to speak but there is one other point I would pick up on and that is Davies has only sanctioned £15k a week regarding Anelka (latest pay rise) of his own money, the financing of Anelka has gone through the books like all the other players at the club, no doubt then that Mr Davies who at heart is a Man.Utd fan will recoup all his money back through the Chelsea transfer.
Nigel Greenwood, Westhoughton says...
11:38am Tue 8 Jan 08
Jay Jay Okocha, the reebok says...
11:40am Tue 8 Jan 08
Jay Jay Okocha, the reebok says...
11:45am Tue 8 Jan 08
Normid Nomad, Howfen says...
11:47am Tue 8 Jan 08
Trotter, Bolton says...
11:49am Tue 8 Jan 08
Jay Jay Okocha wrote:Gary Megson needs to sign you up, with a name like yours then the "SELL OUT" signs will be up soon after the tickets go on sale.
or maybe michael misfud or Leroy Lita - he would want to prove a point to steve coppell who has left him out of the squad
Normid Nomad, Howfen says...
11:49am Tue 8 Jan 08
Jay Jay Okocha wrote:Get Real - Do you Honestley think that he would come to Bolton. We have more chance of getting Jermaine Jackson.
if we do lose anelka, why dont we go for jermain defoe?? he would be a good buy
Jay Jay Okocha, the reebok says...
11:52am Tue 8 Jan 08
Normid Nomad, Howfen says...
12:02pm Tue 8 Jan 08
Jay Jay Okocha wrote:I agree with your post - but the problem is we dont recoup what we lay out - What iam trying to say is that mismanagement will cause us to end up like leeds - Because in our case we dont have the brass balls to speculate
no the difference is that leeds had their players on long term expensive contracts and couldn't offload them once they 'fell from grace' we don't look after our players and have them on short term contracts, just look at stelios, ben haim, jussi etc.
Trotter, Bolton says...
12:12pm Tue 8 Jan 08
Normid Nomad, Howfen says...
12:45pm Tue 8 Jan 08
Trotter wrote:How do you know? do you work at BWFC ?
Gartside got a personel call from Manchester City this morning, looks like Sven is sniffing around Nic as well or could it be Nolan?
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BWFC - TIL - I - DIE, BOLTON says...
1:11pm Tue 8 Jan 08
Aidan, sheffield says...
1:25pm Tue 8 Jan 08
Lita has a point to prove and would be a good signing, although enough cash could get Doyle, hes more of a Bolton player.
Marlow-white, Marlow says...
1:25pm Tue 8 Jan 08
On second point why does Gartside answer his critics by publishing accounts for past 5 years. Its rubbish to suggest all Boltons income goes on players. How much has Gartside earned in past 5 years? How much has Davies taken out? Fans derserve to know as they keep using there hard earned money to support team.
Like us all I will keep supporting Wanderers whatever happens but my level naturally reflects clubs ambition and honesty. Right now there is no ambition and sus
barbarossa, poulton le fylde says...
1:28pm Tue 8 Jan 08
BWFC - TIL - I - DIE, BOLTON says...
1:37pm Tue 8 Jan 08
BWFC - TIL - I - DIE wrote:10 goals in his last 20 games for hearts.. albeit in the mighty scottish premier.....
Gary Megson wants to take Hearts striker Andrius Velicka to the Reebok stadium, hell set Bolton back £2m.
Den, Leigh says...
2:12pm Tue 8 Jan 08
Berni, Deane says...
2:25pm Tue 8 Jan 08
Nigel Greenwood, says...
2:28pm Tue 8 Jan 08
barbarossa wrote:Well said barbarossa. People should stop quoting the £15 Million figure on here and let Big Phil get on with his job (though I suspect Megson is the one holding out). We've got to try and sell the guy for as much money as possible. We mustn't do Chelseas job for them and should back the board. BTW I'd rather have Jason Roberts than Defoe, but each to their own.
The pessimism about the attitude of Anelka should we refuse to sell him is reminiscent of that from many quarters when we signed him.He would not be happy,he would sulk,his value would quickly fall etc.In fact,he has turned out to be a highly committed,model professional.He could surely be persuaded to commit himself to another 17 games to help the club retain it's Prem status-after all,he's just signed a 4 year contract! If we are forced to sign a replacement it is very unlikely there will be the immediate impact we require.The risks of selling Anelka are far greater than those of keeping him.
Jay Jay Okocha, the reebok says...
2:35pm Tue 8 Jan 08
Trotter wrote:why thank you lol
Jay Jay Okocha wrote: or maybe michael misfud or Leroy Lita - he would want to prove a point to steve coppell who has left him out of the squadGary Megson needs to sign you up, with a name like yours then the "SELL OUT" signs will be up soon after the tickets go on sale.
Jay Jay Okocha, the reebok says...
2:40pm Tue 8 Jan 08
Normid Nomad wrote:its worth a go for him, he's a quality forward with international experience although he probably wouldn't get in the england squad if he plays for little old bolton
Jay Jay Okocha wrote: if we do lose anelka, why dont we go for jermain defoe?? he would be a good buyGet Real - Do you Honestley think that he would come to Bolton. We have more chance of getting Jermaine Jackson.
Den, Leigh says...
2:42pm Tue 8 Jan 08
Berni wrote:Agree with the general point you make...
Bolton wanderers! HaHa no ambition no one on the board who gives a toss about the club or more importantly you the fans who line the pockets of these money grabbing fat tossers the reebok faithful have had enough and now showing it by staying away! good on them.
It would be good at times/right circumstances if clubs DIDNT sell, retained want away players and made them play...and honour there contracts?? But clubs/directors bottle it and just see the cash......
It (to me) would be interesting in these times of money money to see a player held to his contract no matter what......for Footballing reasons and not money......see how this affected the market? A single view i know....
But we do seem to bend over too quickly...
Jay Jay Okocha, the reebok says...
2:43pm Tue 8 Jan 08
Aidan wrote:Defoe would add class to the bolton team especially if anelka left, what proven premiership goalscorers would we have at the club?? Lita would do a good job alongside anelka as would doyle.
Jermain Defoe, is an over priced, over hyped cockey London millionaire he is definatley not what we want. Bolton should only sign players you would have next to you in the treches. Real fighters, not people who sult because they are on the bench. Lita has a point to prove and would be a good signing, although enough cash could get Doyle, hes more of a Bolton player.
Jay Jay Okocha, the reebok says...
2:45pm Tue 8 Jan 08
barbarossa wrote:Absolutely i completely agree!
The pessimism about the attitude of Anelka should we refuse to sell him is reminiscent of that from many quarters when we signed him.He would not be happy,he would sulk,his value would quickly fall etc.In fact,he has turned out to be a highly committed,model professional.He could surely be persuaded to commit himself to another 17 games to help the club retain it's Prem status-after all,he's just signed a 4 year contract! If we are forced to sign a replacement it is very unlikely there will be the immediate impact we require.The risks of selling Anelka are far greater than those of keeping him.
Jay Jay Okocha, the reebok says...
2:45pm Tue 8 Jan 08
barbarossa wrote:Absolutely i completely agree!
The pessimism about the attitude of Anelka should we refuse to sell him is reminiscent of that from many quarters when we signed him.He would not be happy,he would sulk,his value would quickly fall etc.In fact,he has turned out to be a highly committed,model professional.He could surely be persuaded to commit himself to another 17 games to help the club retain it's Prem status-after all,he's just signed a 4 year contract! If we are forced to sign a replacement it is very unlikely there will be the immediate impact we require.The risks of selling Anelka are far greater than those of keeping him.
Jay Jay Okocha, the reebok says...
2:48pm Tue 8 Jan 08
Nigel Greenwood wrote:no way, what does jason roberts have compared to defoe??
barbarossa wrote: The pessimism about the attitude of Anelka should we refuse to sell him is reminiscent of that from many quarters when we signed him.He would not be happy,he would sulk,his value would quickly fall etc.In fact,he has turned out to be a highly committed,model professional.He could surely be persuaded to commit himself to another 17 games to help the club retain it's Prem status-after all,he's just signed a 4 year contract! If we are forced to sign a replacement it is very unlikely there will be the immediate impact we require.The risks of selling Anelka are far greater than those of keeping him.Well said barbarossa. People should stop quoting the £15 Million figure on here and let Big Phil get on with his job (though I suspect Megson is the one holding out). We've got to try and sell the guy for as much money as possible. We mustn't do Chelseas job for them and should back the board. BTW I'd rather have Jason Roberts than Defoe, but each to their own.
BWFC - TIL - I - DIE, BOLTON says...
2:53pm Tue 8 Jan 08
we've about as much chance as pg spending 30mil on players in january though!!
he'll never come to bolton.... quality attracts quality and unfortunately, our quality gets sold on the cheap or even given away year after year......
Jay Jay Okocha, the reebok says...
2:56pm Tue 8 Jan 08
BWFC - TIL - I - DIE wrote:exactly!!! No one could possibly question his ability but i believe we could atrract him as he has a chance to put bolton up there with his goals and then i would hope that other quality players would follow him in.
defoe is sheer quality !!!! how can anyone question his talent??? would love to see him at the reebok... we've about as much chance as pg spending 30mil on players in january though!! he'll never come to bolton.... quality attracts quality and unfortunately, our quality gets sold on the cheap or even given away year after year......
Jay Jay Okocha, the reebok says...
2:57pm Tue 8 Jan 08
BWFC - TIL - I - DIE, BOLTON says...
2:59pm Tue 8 Jan 08
Jay Jay Okocha wrote:my thoughts aswell.... ive seen him a few times, looks good, young sharp and hungry.... well worth a punt!!!!
what does anyone think about Michael Misfud?? He could be the buy of the transfer window
Jay Jay Okocha, the reebok says...
3:01pm Tue 8 Jan 08
BWFC - TIL - I - DIE, BOLTON says...
3:02pm Tue 8 Jan 08
Jay Jay Okocha wrote:yep, i would think 3-4 mil maximum
he'll be relatively cheap as well compared to other options, we could then buy other players with the remainder from the anelka sale
Jay Jay Okocha, the reebok says...
3:03pm Tue 8 Jan 08
fernando, bolton says...
3:20pm Tue 8 Jan 08
Jay Jay Okocha, the reebok says...
3:24pm Tue 8 Jan 08
BWFC - TIL - I - DIE, BOLTON says...
3:28pm Tue 8 Jan 08
fernando wrote:misfud and shaun wright phillips up top, long ball... cant fail :-) serious note though... misfud looks good despite his size and it would be a kick in the right direction to get rid of bsa's long boots up field!!!!
Michael Mifsud is quick, young and scores goals. Unfortunately he is only 5ft 5 inches which means we would have to play football on the ground. This requires pace, passing ability and vision in midfield. Need I say more?
Trotter, Bolton says...
3:35pm Tue 8 Jan 08
If Chelsea can pinch our striker why can't we pinch little old Blackburn's striker, could evn go for McCarthy, no need to change house or schools for their children.
I would just love that to happen, especially as we play them next with their star striker.
lol
BWFC - TIL - I - DIE, BOLTON says...
3:37pm Tue 8 Jan 08
Trotter wrote:them dingles arent a laughing stock like us,,,
Roque Santa Cruz If Chelsea can pinch our striker why can't we pinch little old Blackburn's striker, could evn go for McCarthy, no need to change house or schools for their children. I would just love that to happen, especially as we play them next with their star striker. lol
Trotter, Bolton says...
4:02pm Tue 8 Jan 08
Jay Jay Okocha, the reebok says...
4:10pm Tue 8 Jan 08
BWFC - TIL - I - DIE, BOLTON says...
4:11pm Tue 8 Jan 08
Trotter, Bolton says...
4:12pm Tue 8 Jan 08
Jay Jay Okocha wrote:http://www.bolton.vi
what website is that off then trotter??
talfootball.co.uk/ar
ticle.asp?a=95604
Nothing on the other sites, just hope it is not true.
Jay Jay Okocha, the reebok says...
4:17pm Tue 8 Jan 08
birch, chorley says...
4:20pm Tue 8 Jan 08
alfonso alves, alfonso alves, alfonso alves!!!
birch, chorley says...
4:22pm Tue 8 Jan 08
Trotter, Bolton says...
4:22pm Tue 8 Jan 08
birch wrote:Good shout .....
alfonso alves is the only replacement, brazillian, big centre forward, 34 goals for heerenveen last season, top scorer in the eridivision, he scored 7 in 1 game earlier this season!!! apparently boro are linked with him. this guy could be worth 20million if wwe gave him his chance in the premier. check him out on you tube alfonso alves, alfonso alves, alfonso alves!!!
BWFC - TIL - I - DIE, BOLTON says...
4:22pm Tue 8 Jan 08
birch wrote:i can feel your excitement birch!!!!!!
alfonso alves, alfonso alves, alfonso alves!!! have a look on you tube
Jay Jay Okocha, the reebok says...
4:30pm Tue 8 Jan 08
Jay Jay Okocha, the reebok says...
4:30pm Tue 8 Jan 08
BWFC - TIL - I - DIE, BOLTON says...
4:32pm Tue 8 Jan 08
Jon, Bolton says...
4:40pm Tue 8 Jan 08
birch wrote:Thats what everyone said about Braaten.
alfonso alves, alfonso alves, alfonso alves!!! have a look on you tube
We CAN'T Spend big money on ANY player not proven in the premiership. Too much of a risk.
birch, chorley says...
4:56pm Tue 8 Jan 08
Normid Nomad, Howfen says...
5:01pm Tue 8 Jan 08
trottersforever, bolton says...
5:37pm Tue 8 Jan 08
*hitonutd, MANCHESTER says...
6:03pm Tue 8 Jan 08
trottersforever wrote:Have you never read the prem ref's handbook,in the last section it states:
one benefit of signing Defoe would be that we would awarded more penalties in a season than we normally get ;)
"never award Bolton a penalty, even nailed on penalty shouts(unless they are losing bythree clear goals and have no chance of winning)"
Its just after the rule that says all fouls by Bolton players are yellow card offences and that games may be lengthened so as to allow opposing sides sufficient time to equalise!!!!
cow-head, westhoughton says...
6:08pm Tue 8 Jan 08
*hitonutd, MANCHESTER says...
6:09pm Tue 8 Jan 08
cow-head wrote:Thats the one alright.
Is that the same prem ref's handbook that always gives at least 4 minutes injury time whenever MUFC are losing, irrespective of the number of injuries?
birch, chorley says...
6:30pm Tue 8 Jan 08
BoltonMatty21, Wigan says...
6:46pm Tue 8 Jan 08
Jacko, Little Lever says...
7:05pm Tue 8 Jan 08
big fat sam, bolton says...
7:08pm Tue 8 Jan 08
m
chris, says...
7:41pm Tue 8 Jan 08
Trotter wrote:I liked Jay Jay as well, but frank worthington was a genius
Gartside will be rubbing his hands with that stupid grin on his face, just hope Chelsea ditch the bid now.
How we fans are treated is the lowest of low's, anyway we will have the likes of Rob Hulse spearheading our attack no doubt.
Anelka must go down now if we sell him or when we sell him as one of the best we have ever had if not the most quality of players, he glides over the turf like a panther going in for a kill, my all time favourite is Jay Jay.
Like going through a mourning this expected transfer.
chris, says...
7:48pm Tue 8 Jan 08
Normid Nomad wrote:good call
What about David Healey at Fulham as a budget buy ? he gets about and can score goals
Nigel Greenwood, says...
8:02pm Tue 8 Jan 08
formula, Bournemouth says...
10:10pm Tue 8 Jan 08
Deano, Bolton says...
8:31am Wed 9 Jan 08
Jay Jay Okocha, the reebok says...
11:31am Wed 9 Jan 08
birch, chorley says...
1:20pm Wed 9 Jan 08
Jay Jay Okocha wrote:good call
why aren't we going for lyon's fred?? he is awesome and only middlesborough seem interested!!
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5:50pm Mon 7 Jan 08