joanna wrote:
That's why you should have had replacements signed up BEFORE Anelka was allowed to leave, you miserable, naive lump of......How appallingly has our club been mismanaged since Sam's demise.

fernando wrote:
Steinsson deal should be done. He wants to leave and AZ want the money so they can bid for Alves. Gudni recommends the deal for both club and player. He was a true Bolton legend and a great centre back with a good football brain. Get the first one in and it will show others that we have ambition. !!!!!!

Martin Duggan wrote:
"Derby signed 4 players" Yes but they're all bobbins. Nobody else has signed big apart from Chelski that is. These things always take time. I blame it on the agents rather than megson. As soon as a player hears your interested in him his agent then stats touting them about. Its only when none of the bigger boys want them that the likes of Bolton sign them. I dont like it but thats the way it is BTID

Wanderer wrote:
Why aren't we in for the likes of Diarra (£5.5m) and Routledge (£1.8m!!)? Both of these players would improve the team immensely

Chris Manning, Gotham City PD wrote:

Wanderer wrote: Why aren't we in for the likes of Diarra (£5.5m) and Routledge (£1.8m!!)? Both of these players would improve the team immensely

cos they don't wanna come oop north same as why we'd never be able to sign the likes of Defoe etc. Southern boys don't fancy it up here

formula wrote:
its part of the job board and manager to sell the club to a certain player and tell him long term plans and what ambition we intend to show after this dreadful season is over , and its to get the wright player to understand that and hopefully more players would follow him in , its all about stating what you wanna do at bolton and sell it to them

Martin Duggan wrote:

formula wrote: its part of the job board and manager to sell the club to a certain player and tell him long term plans and what ambition we intend to show after this dreadful season is over , and its to get the wright player to understand that and hopefully more players would follow him in , its all about stating what you wanna do at bolton and sell it to them

I agree but at the end of the day, if a player is wanted by WH, Spurs etc the chances are hes gonna go there. Its the London pull. Thats why Benayoun went to WH istead of us. I know hes now up north but that with Liverpool a whole different game ball. I must admit I feel sorry for Megson, its going to be difficult to sell a club that struggles to get 18K in their own stadium. BTID

exiledboltonian wrote:
right the bottom line is this inept ginger tosser is the root cause of the problems being encountered now it is evident that the defence is weak and a powder puff strikeforce but it is also the job of a manager to get the best out of what you have got how is it that the team on sunday was largely the team big sam put out yet never in a million years would a team of his played with such little idea or commitment not knowing his training methods i cannot say i can say is the players look only 50% as fit as they did in the big mans era and it is this lack of fitness that is finding us out late in games gone are the days when our players sweat blood for 90 odd minutes defending as a unit and attacking as one so look no further than the present encumbent for the problems relating to our beloved bwfc he simply cannot manage at any level sammy lee started the rot but this guy is simply impounding the demise i know that the men at the top of the club (directors) ignore all these post,s but they must realise that looking at the shambles on the pitch that ginger tosser is not capable of turning this round let alone get quality players in big sam had an aura of authority and the skill of being able to sell his and the clubs ambitions to quality players hence the world class players we have all had the pleasure of watching over the last 5 years so i rest my case mr gartside you have made 3 monumental fcuk ups in the last 9 months to redeem yourself theres only one option GET BIG SAM BACK ON BOARD you know it makes sense

Martin Duggan wrote:

exiledboltonian wrote: right the bottom line is this inept ginger tosser is the root cause of the problems being encountered now it is evident that the defence is weak and a powder puff strikeforce but it is also the job of a manager to get the best out of what you have got how is it that the team on sunday was largely the team big sam put out yet never in a million years would a team of his played with such little idea or commitment not knowing his training methods i cannot say i can say is the players look only 50% as fit as they did in the big mans era and it is this lack of fitness that is finding us out late in games gone are the days when our players sweat blood for 90 odd minutes defending as a unit and attacking as one so look no further than the present encumbent for the problems relating to our beloved bwfc he simply cannot manage at any level sammy lee started the rot but this guy is simply impounding the demise i know that the men at the top of the club (directors) ignore all these post,s but they must realise that looking at the shambles on the pitch that ginger tosser is not capable of turning this round let alone get quality players in big sam had an aura of authority and the skill of being able to sell his and the clubs ambitions to quality players hence the world class players we have all had the pleasure of watching over the last 5 years so i rest my case mr gartside you have made 3 monumental fcuk ups in the last 9 months to redeem yourself theres only one option GET BIG SAM BACK ON BOARD you know it makes sense

In Big Sams last 5 months in charge we hardly won a game and were very very poor indeed. We got a few thrashings on the way as well.

Martin Duggan wrote:
I think at the moment we are suffering from a lack of investment in good young players over the last 2 or 3 years

formula wrote:
the board might not see these post but surley gordon sharock can , and put all these feelings forward to the people that matter at bolton and try and ask the dificult questions that nobody from BN are willing to ask

Martin Duggan wrote:

exiledboltonian wrote: right the bottom line is this inept ginger tosser is the root cause of the problems being encountered now it is evident that the defence is weak and a powder puff strikeforce but it is also the job of a manager to get the best out of what you have got how is it that the team on sunday was largely the team big sam put out yet never in a million years would a team of his played with such little idea or commitment not knowing his training methods i cannot say i can say is the players look only 50% as fit as they did in the big mans era and it is this lack of fitness that is finding us out late in games gone are the days when our players sweat blood for 90 odd minutes defending as a unit and attacking as one so look no further than the present encumbent for the problems relating to our beloved bwfc he simply cannot manage at any level sammy lee started the rot but this guy is simply impounding the demise i know that the men at the top of the club (directors) ignore all these post,s but they must realise that looking at the shambles on the pitch that ginger tosser is not capable of turning this round let alone get quality players in big sam had an aura of authority and the skill of being able to sell his and the clubs ambitions to quality players hence the world class players we have all had the pleasure of watching over the last 5 years so i rest my case mr gartside you have made 3 monumental fcuk ups in the last 9 months to redeem yourself theres only one option GET BIG SAM BACK ON BOARD you know it makes sense

In Big Sams last 5 months in charge we hardly won a game and were very very poor indeed. We got a few thrashings on the way as well.

BWFC - TIL - I - DIE wrote:

Martin Duggan wrote: I think at the moment we are suffering from a lack of investment in good young players over the last 2 or 3 years

more like 9 years i think martin... for all bsa's achievments, he seemed to have no interest in bringing through youth..... you only need to look at the national teams ignorance in that department to realise that if you dont concentrate on youth consistently it eventually comes back to bite you.... it is now biting at the reebok...... severely...

BWFC - TIL - I - DIE wrote:

Martin Duggan wrote: I think at the moment we are suffering from a lack of investment in good young players over the last 2 or 3 years

more like 9 years i think martin... for all bsa's achievments, he seemed to have no interest in bringing through youth..... you only need to look at the national teams ignorance in that department to realise that if you dont concentrate on youth consistently it eventually comes back to bite you.... it is now biting at the reebok...... severely...

wrothy wrote:
what happened to " we have plans in place for every position should anyone leave????????" lies lies lies lies, DISGRACE

GC wrote:
We might as well accept now that we are going down. Megson's statement is part of the preparation for that. Manipulating the fans again. Although we will not spend the Anelka money, you can guarantee that the debt will go up. Always does, no matter how much money we take in. Still in true LSL fashion we should look at the positives. Here are a few. Anyone like to add? 1. Fatface Gartslime will not be able to hobnob with the Premiership's great and good like some Johnny Bigtime. 2. Local derbies at Blackpool, Preston and Burnley. And in seasons to come Bury, Accrington and Morecombe. (Morecombe!Licking my lips already). 3. We can re-sign Trevor Morgan. What a legend. 4. No queues for pies at half-time. 5. They can lay off dozens of those fat-ar*ed stewards and just open the West stand lower. 6. Far less silly kick-off times to suit Sky. The list goes on. Bear in mind that season ticket prices will go up. Remember that fiddle. When we are promoted ticket prices go up because of the higher standard, when we are relegated prices go up because there are more games. Contributions gratefully recieved.

Steven Williams wrote:

GC wrote: We might as well accept now that we are going down. Megson's statement is part of the preparation for that. Manipulating the fans again. Although we will not spend the Anelka money, you can guarantee that the debt will go up. Always does, no matter how much money we take in. Still in true LSL fashion we should look at the positives. Here are a few. Anyone like to add? 1. Fatface Gartslime will not be able to hobnob with the Premiership's great and good like some Johnny Bigtime. 2. Local derbies at Blackpool, Preston and Burnley. And in seasons to come Bury, Accrington and Morecombe. (Morecombe!Licking my lips already). 3. We can re-sign Trevor Morgan. What a legend. 4. No queues for pies at half-time. 5. They can lay off dozens of those fat-ar*ed stewards and just open the West stand lower. 6. Far less silly kick-off times to suit Sky. The list goes on. Bear in mind that season ticket prices will go up. Remember that fiddle. When we are promoted ticket prices go up because of the higher standard, when we are relegated prices go up because there are more games. Contributions gratefully recieved.

Usual positive and supportive comments GC (as well as completely factually incorrect comments about ticket prices, which were in fact frozen this year- but then you wouldnt know that as you dont go anymore). But who is this "we" you speak of? You have proudly stated you dont go watching BWFC anymore and seem to spend most of your spare time slagging off everything to do with the club on this website- in my opinion therefore you are no longer part of "we"

amosc99 wrote:

BWFC - TIL - I - DIE wrote:

Martin Duggan wrote: I think at the moment we are suffering from a lack of investment in good young players over the last 2 or 3 years

more like 9 years i think martin... for all bsa's achievments, he seemed to have no interest in bringing through youth..... you only need to look at the national teams ignorance in that department to realise that if you dont concentrate on youth consistently it eventually comes back to bite you.... it is now biting at the reebok...... severely...

Big Sam brought in at least 3 players from the youth squad and was prepared to give others from the youth squad a chance every now and again - which is more than can be said for more than half the teams in the Premiership. Where do you thin players like Nolan, Hunt and Vaz Te came from???? Sam created the youth's own management team and it was them that was bringing players through and Sam did experiment with a few - remember a youth squad only produces a very small percentage of decent players (whether they are British youth squad teams or overseas)!!!

formula wrote:
lol ... ya beat me to it

BWFC - TIL - I - DIE wrote:
Saint-Etienne striker Bafe Gomis is interesting Bolton Wanderers. Trotters boss Gary Megson sees the 22 year-old as an ideal replacement for new £15 million Chelsea signing Nicolas Anelka anyone heard of him??

exiledboltonian wrote:

BWFC - TIL - I - DIE wrote: Saint-Etienne striker Bafe Gomis is interesting Bolton Wanderers. Trotters boss Gary Megson sees the 22 year-old as an ideal replacement for new £15 million Chelsea signing Nicolas Anelka anyone heard of him??

no m8 but just another name thrown in to bluff us into thinking the mangement are active on the trnsfer front reality is same old lame old

gavio wrote:
yeah u are rite leeds had a go and balls it up, so generally you dont tend to copy something that has gone tits up!!! they ahd the smae manager wen all there investment went in, it would be foolish to spend massively in what at the moment is an unstable club and going through a transition!! Think the answer we are all looking for is spend what is needed to keep us in the premiership and go again next season to make sure we perform better, becasue its would be a better senario if we finished 6th from bottom this year, invest in the summer and finish around europe again, where as if u spent now the outcome wouldn't be much different around 6th from bottom this season and probly not near europe next due to the fact players are cheaper in the summer than in January!!!

weonly8manu wrote:
The Ginge is tactically useless and i dont think he is able to persuade players of the Gudjohnson / Djorkaeff /Okocha calibre. The supporters are behind the team, they can see everyone is giving 100% in effort, unfortunately at any level that just isnt good enough. Also fans should lay off Nolan. I think as captain of the team he is feeling the pressure more than most and maybe having to do too much to cover for the sh&te around him is putting him off his own game.

Babylon wrote:
Come on can you imagine the outcry if Megson had signed a striker before we sold the Elk, I bet you would have been on here moaning of lack of ambition.. Our club has been mis managed for over a year now ever since the Big fella lost interest in us.

Steven Williams wrote:

GC wrote: We might as well accept now that we are going down. Megson's statement is part of the preparation for that. Manipulating the fans again. Although we will not spend the Anelka money, you can guarantee that the debt will go up. Always does, no matter how much money we take in. Still in true LSL fashion we should look at the positives. Here are a few. Anyone like to add? 1. Fatface Gartslime will not be able to hobnob with the Premiership's great and good like some Johnny Bigtime. 2. Local derbies at Blackpool, Preston and Burnley. And in seasons to come Bury, Accrington and Morecombe. (Morecombe!Licking my lips already). 3. We can re-sign Trevor Morgan. What a legend. 4. No queues for pies at half-time. 5. They can lay off dozens of those fat-ar*ed stewards and just open the West stand lower. 6. Far less silly kick-off times to suit Sky. The list goes on. Bear in mind that season ticket prices will go up. Remember that fiddle. When we are promoted ticket prices go up because of the higher standard, when we are relegated prices go up because there are more games. Contributions gratefully recieved.

Usual positive and supportive comments GC (as well as completely factually incorrect comments about ticket prices, which were in fact frozen this year- but then you wouldnt know that as you dont go anymore). But who is this "we" you speak of? You have proudly stated you dont go watching BWFC anymore and seem to spend most of your spare time slagging off everything to do with the club on this website- in my opinion therefore you are no longer part of "we"

BWFC - TIL - I - DIE wrote:

weonly8manu wrote: The Ginge is tactically useless and i dont think he is able to persuade players of the Gudjohnson / Djorkaeff /Okocha calibre. The supporters are behind the team, they can see everyone is giving 100% in effort, unfortunately at any level that just isnt good enough. Also fans should lay off Nolan. I think as captain of the team he is feeling the pressure more than most and maybe having to do too much to cover for the sh&te around him is putting him off his own game.

YOU CANT JUDGE MEGSON UNTIL HE'S BROUGHT IN HIS OWN PLAYERS........

Son of Sasa wrote:

BWFC - TIL - I - DIE wrote:

weonly8manu wrote: The Ginge is tactically useless and i dont think he is able to persuade players of the Gudjohnson / Djorkaeff /Okocha calibre. The supporters are behind the team, they can see everyone is giving 100% in effort, unfortunately at any level that just isnt good enough. Also fans should lay off Nolan. I think as captain of the team he is feeling the pressure more than most and maybe having to do too much to cover for the sh&te around him is putting him off his own game.

YOU CANT JUDGE MEGSON UNTIL HE'S BROUGHT IN HIS OWN PLAYERS........

Well said BWFC. I'm sure that a few more will follow Cid out of the door, namely Braaten, Alonso, Helguson and Samuel. Megson will be looking to clear out the players he does'nt rate and bring in his own choices.

GC wrote:

Steven Williams wrote:

GC wrote: We might as well accept now that we are going down. Megson's statement is part of the preparation for that. Manipulating the fans again. Although we will not spend the Anelka money, you can guarantee that the debt will go up. Always does, no matter how much money we take in. Still in true LSL fashion we should look at the positives. Here are a few. Anyone like to add? 1. Fatface Gartslime will not be able to hobnob with the Premiership's great and good like some Johnny Bigtime. 2. Local derbies at Blackpool, Preston and Burnley. And in seasons to come Bury, Accrington and Morecombe. (Morecombe!Licking my lips already). 3. We can re-sign Trevor Morgan. What a legend. 4. No queues for pies at half-time. 5. They can lay off dozens of those fat-ar*ed stewards and just open the West stand lower. 6. Far less silly kick-off times to suit Sky. The list goes on. Bear in mind that season ticket prices will go up. Remember that fiddle. When we are promoted ticket prices go up because of the higher standard, when we are relegated prices go up because there are more games. Contributions gratefully recieved.

Usual positive and supportive comments GC (as well as completely factually incorrect comments about ticket prices, which were in fact frozen this year- but then you wouldnt know that as you dont go anymore). But who is this "we" you speak of? You have proudly stated you dont go watching BWFC anymore and seem to spend most of your spare time slagging off everything to do with the club on this website- in my opinion therefore you are no longer part of "we"

Well I had a season ticket for 20 plus years and have been four times this season. I have seen one good game. The Middlesboro' game was particularly poor, given the fact that we played one striker at home against a weak team of strugglers. Just when do i lose the right to voice an opinion then? Is it only those with season tickets this season? Or those with season tickets who are also in Lifeline and buy a pie at half-time? I did'nt realise that this site was just for those who spent most money. Perhaps we should also rule out comments from that guy in Thailand who keeps posting because he does'nt fly back every week to watch the games. Fact is the fans have been let down and it takes an idiot, a masochist or a numbskull to keep turning up week after week smiling benignly at Megslime's mismanagement. Please tick the one that applies to you.

amosc99 wrote:

Son of Sasa wrote:

BWFC - TIL - I - DIE wrote:

weonly8manu wrote: The Ginge is tactically useless and i dont think he is able to persuade players of the Gudjohnson / Djorkaeff /Okocha calibre. The supporters are behind the team, they can see everyone is giving 100% in effort, unfortunately at any level that just isnt good enough. Also fans should lay off Nolan. I think as captain of the team he is feeling the pressure more than most and maybe having to do too much to cover for the sh&te around him is putting him off his own game.

YOU CANT JUDGE MEGSON UNTIL HE'S BROUGHT IN HIS OWN PLAYERS........

Well said BWFC. I'm sure that a few more will follow Cid out of the door, namely Braaten, Alonso, Helguson and Samuel. Megson will be looking to clear out the players he does'nt rate and bring in his own choices.

But that costs and as shown already today money (although not mentioned directly) will NOT be available hence the excuses such as.... Problems with finalising deals due to league position etc.... Who would want to come to Bolton at this moment in time - some would but why are clubs lower than Bolton actually attracting players and signing players where Bolton can't? ALL TO DO WITH LACK OF MONEY, LACK OF AMBITION AND MOST OF ALL A MANAGER WHO IS NOT WELL LIKED IN THE FOTBALLING WORLD AND A BOARD WHO DO NOT GIVE A **** JUST AS LONG AS THEY GET EITHER THE PARACHUTE MONEY OR TV RIGHTS MONEY OR BOTH BEFORE THEY SELL THE CLUB !!!!!

Son of Sasa wrote:

BWFC - TIL - I - DIE wrote:

weonly8manu wrote: The Ginge is tactically useless and i dont think he is able to persuade players of the Gudjohnson / Djorkaeff /Okocha calibre. The supporters are behind the team, they can see everyone is giving 100% in effort, unfortunately at any level that just isnt good enough. Also fans should lay off Nolan. I think as captain of the team he is feeling the pressure more than most and maybe having to do too much to cover for the sh&te around him is putting him off his own game.

YOU CANT JUDGE MEGSON UNTIL HE'S BROUGHT IN HIS OWN PLAYERS........

Well said BWFC. I'm sure that a few more will follow Cid out of the door, namely Braaten, Alonso, Helguson and Samuel. Megson will be looking to clear out the players he does'nt rate and bring in his own choices.

BWFC - TIL - I - DIE wrote:
your right Son of Sasa, it will take him well beyond january to clear the decks of the dregs. i think he's sussed the measure of most players at the reebok by now and i think we'll see a mass clear out but not until summer.. no point in cutting our nose off in january when it is well known that quality players are hard to get.... (unless your raiding bwfc).... give the guy a chance.... if we stay up this season, that'll do me... next season is when megson should be judged...

Son of Sasa wrote:

amosc99 wrote:

Son of Sasa wrote:

BWFC - TIL - I - DIE wrote:

weonly8manu wrote: The Ginge is tactically useless and i dont think he is able to persuade players of the Gudjohnson / Djorkaeff /Okocha calibre. The supporters are behind the team, they can see everyone is giving 100% in effort, unfortunately at any level that just isnt good enough. Also fans should lay off Nolan. I think as captain of the team he is feeling the pressure more than most and maybe having to do too much to cover for the sh&te around him is putting him off his own game.

YOU CANT JUDGE MEGSON UNTIL HE'S BROUGHT IN HIS OWN PLAYERS........

Well said BWFC. I'm sure that a few more will follow Cid out of the door, namely Braaten, Alonso, Helguson and Samuel. Megson will be looking to clear out the players he does'nt rate and bring in his own choices.

But that costs and as shown already today money (although not mentioned directly) will NOT be available hence the excuses such as.... Problems with finalising deals due to league position etc.... Who would want to come to Bolton at this moment in time - some would but why are clubs lower than Bolton actually attracting players and signing players where Bolton can't? ALL TO DO WITH LACK OF MONEY, LACK OF AMBITION AND MOST OF ALL A MANAGER WHO IS NOT WELL LIKED IN THE FOTBALLING WORLD AND A BOARD WHO DO NOT GIVE A **** JUST AS LONG AS THEY GET EITHER THE PARACHUTE MONEY OR TV RIGHTS MONEY OR BOTH BEFORE THEY SELL THE CLUB !!!!!

Whine whine whine whine whine whine whine. Change the record pal it's starting to get just a little boring.

superjohn wrote:

BWFC - TIL - I - DIE wrote: your right Son of Sasa, it will take him well beyond january to clear the decks of the dregs. i think he's sussed the measure of most players at the reebok by now and i think we'll see a mass clear out but not until summer.. no point in cutting our nose off in january when it is well known that quality players are hard to get.... (unless your raiding bwfc).... give the guy a chance.... if we stay up this season, that'll do me... next season is when megson should be judged...

Too true, the problem continues to be (and I hate to bring it up) the appointment of LSL without interviewing anyone else for the job! I'll never be able to forget that! To blame Megson is to miss the point. I've heard good things about the new Icelandic so hopefully we've got the right back position sorted. Finally. Why no bid for Jason Roberts? We all saw on Sunday what he's capable of and no one who watched that game can say that we couldn't use some pace up front! He's definitely available and he's just the kind of player that the fans would like... Come on Megs, get him signed up.

exiledboltonian wrote:

superjohn wrote:

BWFC - TIL - I - DIE wrote: your right Son of Sasa, it will take him well beyond january to clear the decks of the dregs. i think he's sussed the measure of most players at the reebok by now and i think we'll see a mass clear out but not until summer.. no point in cutting our nose off in january when it is well known that quality players are hard to get.... (unless your raiding bwfc).... give the guy a chance.... if we stay up this season, that'll do me... next season is when megson should be judged...

Too true, the problem continues to be (and I hate to bring it up) the appointment of LSL without interviewing anyone else for the job! I'll never be able to forget that! To blame Megson is to miss the point. I've heard good things about the new Icelandic so hopefully we've got the right back position sorted. Finally. Why no bid for Jason Roberts? We all saw on Sunday what he's capable of and no one who watched that game can say that we couldn't use some pace up front! He's definitely available and he's just the kind of player that the fans would like... Come on Megs, get him signed up.

BECAUSE HE FELL OUT WITH MEGSON A WBA AND WILL NOT WORK FOR THE GINGER TOSSER

Den wrote:
Predictable sound bites from Megson, BUT, am betting his frustration is down to Gartside? Like i said before how can we attract ANY player when the world sees us SELLING our best players...Gartside again....small minded lack of ambition that runs through Gartside....he seems (to me) perfectly happy with the decline of our standing/fortune

BWFC - TIL - I - DIE wrote:

exiledboltonian wrote:

superjohn wrote:

BWFC - TIL - I - DIE wrote: your right Son of Sasa, it will take him well beyond january to clear the decks of the dregs. i think he's sussed the measure of most players at the reebok by now and i think we'll see a mass clear out but not until summer.. no point in cutting our nose off in january when it is well known that quality players are hard to get.... (unless your raiding bwfc).... give the guy a chance.... if we stay up this season, that'll do me... next season is when megson should be judged...

Too true, the problem continues to be (and I hate to bring it up) the appointment of LSL without interviewing anyone else for the job! I'll never be able to forget that! To blame Megson is to miss the point. I've heard good things about the new Icelandic so hopefully we've got the right back position sorted. Finally. Why no bid for Jason Roberts? We all saw on Sunday what he's capable of and no one who watched that game can say that we couldn't use some pace up front! He's definitely available and he's just the kind of player that the fans would like... Come on Megs, get him signed up.

BECAUSE HE FELL OUT WITH MEGSON A WBA AND WILL NOT WORK FOR THE GINGER TOSSER

that is true ... he fell out with megson, and stated that he would never work under him again no matter what.....

Lord Lucan wrote:
The real agenda here is: 1 relegation is a real possibility so Anelka was sold to realise as much as possible NOW as opposed to at a fire sale discount in the summer 2 we are out of the Carling and FA Cups and Ginga has been told to lose interest in the UEFA - that went badly wrong when McCann scored against the run of play in Belgrade: even choosing Braaten as centre forward couldn't swing that one. This means that the squad doesn't need to be as big as it is. Hence, the board will be pushing for FEWER players and not more. 3 The board will be asking why Ginga can not keep us up with what we've got: that is what he was brought in to do by his own admission. 4 Selling Anelka before hunting for replacements is a sure fire way to put purchase prices up and hence create an excuse NOT to buy 5 Ginga will be sacked if we go down - but he gets a handsome pay-off for failure so does he really care? His iffy cv didn't stop him getting this job.

exiledboltonian wrote:

BWFC - TIL - I - DIE wrote: Saint-Etienne striker Bafe Gomis is interesting Bolton Wanderers. Trotters boss Gary Megson sees the 22 year-old as an ideal replacement for new £15 million Chelsea signing Nicolas Anelka anyone heard of him??

no m8 but just another name thrown in to bluff us into thinking the mangement are active on the trnsfer front reality is same old lame old

fernando wrote:

exiledboltonian wrote:

BWFC - TIL - I - DIE wrote: Saint-Etienne striker Bafe Gomis is interesting Bolton Wanderers. Trotters boss Gary Megson sees the 22 year-old as an ideal replacement for new £15 million Chelsea signing Nicolas Anelka anyone heard of him??

no m8 but just another name thrown in to bluff us into thinking the mangement are active on the trnsfer front reality is same old lame old

He has scored 10 goals this season. (His first as a regular starter) Already been watched by Arsenal, Chelsea and Inter. Wenger is looking to sign him in the summer for a fee of around 10 million euros. He is the type of player we should be after. Eager and quick. Whether he would come to us with a host of top clubs sniffing round is debatable. The only advantage we could offer is a first team football every week. The other clubs are looking at him for the future.

exiledboltonian wrote:
right the bottom line is this inept ginger tosser is the root cause of the problems being encountered now it is evident that the defence is weak and a powder puff strikeforce but it is also the job of a manager to get the best out of what you have got how is it that the team on sunday was largely the team big sam put out yet never in a million years would a team of his played with such little idea or commitment not knowing his training methods i cannot say i can say is the players look only 50% as fit as they did in the big mans era and it is this lack of fitness that is finding us out late in games gone are the days when our players sweat blood for 90 odd minutes defending as a unit and attacking as one so look no further than the present encumbent for the problems relating to our beloved bwfc he simply cannot manage at any level sammy lee started the rot but this guy is simply impounding the demise i know that the men at the top of the club (directors) ignore all these post,s but they must realise that looking at the shambles on the pitch that ginger tosser is not capable of turning this round let alone get quality players in big sam had an aura of authority and the skill of being able to sell his and the clubs ambitions to quality players hence the world class players we have all had the pleasure of watching over the last 5 years so i rest my case mr gartside you have made 3 monumental fcuk ups in the last 9 months to redeem yourself theres only one option GET BIG SAM BACK ON BOARD you know it makes sense

Jon W wrote:

exiledboltonian wrote: right the bottom line is this inept ginger tosser is the root cause of the problems being encountered now it is evident that the defence is weak and a powder puff strikeforce but it is also the job of a manager to get the best out of what you have got how is it that the team on sunday was largely the team big sam put out yet never in a million years would a team of his played with such little idea or commitment not knowing his training methods i cannot say i can say is the players look only 50% as fit as they did in the big mans era and it is this lack of fitness that is finding us out late in games gone are the days when our players sweat blood for 90 odd minutes defending as a unit and attacking as one so look no further than the present encumbent for the problems relating to our beloved bwfc he simply cannot manage at any level sammy lee started the rot but this guy is simply impounding the demise i know that the men at the top of the club (directors) ignore all these post,s but they must realise that looking at the shambles on the pitch that ginger tosser is not capable of turning this round let alone get quality players in big sam had an aura of authority and the skill of being able to sell his and the clubs ambitions to quality players hence the world class players we have all had the pleasure of watching over the last 5 years so i rest my case mr gartside you have made 3 monumental fcuk ups in the last 9 months to redeem yourself theres only one option GET BIG SAM BACK ON BOARD you know it makes sense

The team on Sunday had no Meite, Faye, Ben Haim, Speed, Diouff, Anelka. That is NOT largely the team Big Sam put out. Also, that performance was no worse than many of those in BSAs last season (Boro twice, Watford twice, City, Blackburn twice, Charlton, Man U twice, I could go on). Dream on if you think bringing BSA back would change everything, he was part of the reason we are playing crap football (making Nolan captain for one and building the team around Davies for another). I've not made my mind up on Megson yet, I'm worried about certain things (namely Davies, Nolan and Joey O'B) but he's got certain qualities which many people on this site dont wish to see. its easier to just slag off every aspect of the club.

fernando wrote:
According to Tribal football Steinsson has signed a 3 year deal for 2.5 million. The club also has the option of a 1 year extension. We will attract some players who want premiership wages. There are lots of EU teams that cannot compete with the wages that even we are prepared to pay. Megson will get players but he needs to sort the wheat from the chaff. There are also a lot of greedy average players that are looking for 80K per week. We cannot pay Anelka type wages for the likes of Bobo Balde. It is going to be difficult, but there are still a couple of weeks.

weonly8manu wrote:
The Ginge is tactically useless and i dont think he is able to persuade players of the Gudjohnson / Djorkaeff /Okocha calibre. The supporters are behind the team, they can see everyone is giving 100% in effort, unfortunately at any level that just isnt good enough. Also fans should lay off Nolan. I think as captain of the team he is feeling the pressure more than most and maybe having to do too much to cover for the sh&te around him is putting him off his own game.

BWFC - TIL - I - DIE wrote:

weonly8manu wrote: The Ginge is tactically useless and i dont think he is able to persuade players of the Gudjohnson / Djorkaeff /Okocha calibre. The supporters are behind the team, they can see everyone is giving 100% in effort, unfortunately at any level that just isnt good enough. Also fans should lay off Nolan. I think as captain of the team he is feeling the pressure more than most and maybe having to do too much to cover for the sh&te around him is putting him off his own game.

YOU CANT JUDGE MEGSON UNTIL HE'S BROUGHT IN HIS OWN PLAYERS........

GC wrote:

Steven Williams wrote:

GC wrote: We might as well accept now that we are going down. Megson's statement is part of the preparation for that. Manipulating the fans again. Although we will not spend the Anelka money, you can guarantee that the debt will go up. Always does, no matter how much money we take in. Still in true LSL fashion we should look at the positives. Here are a few. Anyone like to add? 1. Fatface Gartslime will not be able to hobnob with the Premiership's great and good like some Johnny Bigtime. 2. Local derbies at Blackpool, Preston and Burnley. And in seasons to come Bury, Accrington and Morecombe. (Morecombe!Licking my lips already). 3. We can re-sign Trevor Morgan. What a legend. 4. No queues for pies at half-time. 5. They can lay off dozens of those fat-ar*ed stewards and just open the West stand lower. 6. Far less silly kick-off times to suit Sky. The list goes on. Bear in mind that season ticket prices will go up. Remember that fiddle. When we are promoted ticket prices go up because of the higher standard, when we are relegated prices go up because there are more games. Contributions gratefully recieved.

Usual positive and supportive comments GC (as well as completely factually incorrect comments about ticket prices, which were in fact frozen this year- but then you wouldnt know that as you dont go anymore). But who is this "we" you speak of? You have proudly stated you dont go watching BWFC anymore and seem to spend most of your spare time slagging off everything to do with the club on this website- in my opinion therefore you are no longer part of "we"

Well I had a season ticket for 20 plus years and have been four times this season. I have seen one good game. The Middlesboro' game was particularly poor, given the fact that we played one striker at home against a weak team of strugglers. Just when do i lose the right to voice an opinion then? Is it only those with season tickets this season? Or those with season tickets who are also in Lifeline and buy a pie at half-time? I did'nt realise that this site was just for those who spent most money. Perhaps we should also rule out comments from that guy in Thailand who keeps posting because he does'nt fly back every week to watch the games. Fact is the fans have been let down and it takes an idiot, a masochist or a numbskull to keep turning up week after week smiling benignly at Megslime's mismanagement. Please tick the one that applies to you.

Jon W wrote:

BWFC - TIL - I - DIE wrote:

weonly8manu wrote: The Ginge is tactically useless and i dont think he is able to persuade players of the Gudjohnson / Djorkaeff /Okocha calibre. The supporters are behind the team, they can see everyone is giving 100% in effort, unfortunately at any level that just isnt good enough. Also fans should lay off Nolan. I think as captain of the team he is feeling the pressure more than most and maybe having to do too much to cover for the sh&te around him is putting him off his own game.

YOU CANT JUDGE MEGSON UNTIL HE'S BROUGHT IN HIS OWN PLAYERS........

BWFC TIL I DIE you cant come on this site talking in measured tones and giving people time to prove themselves. Dont you realise you're just supposed to slag off the club from top to bottom and tell everyone that you're not setting foot in the Reebok again until they start paying us to do so.

eric wrote:
GARY Megson has spoken of his frustration so far in the January transfer window as he looks for talent. What a plonker. has this come as a suprise to him, surely he should have been looking for players before the transfer window. By the sounds we are doomed. i hope NOT.

Jon W wrote:

GC wrote:

Steven Williams wrote:

GC wrote: We might as well accept now that we are going down. Megson's statement is part of the preparation for that. Manipulating the fans again. Although we will not spend the Anelka money, you can guarantee that the debt will go up. Always does, no matter how much money we take in. Still in true LSL fashion we should look at the positives. Here are a few. Anyone like to add? 1. Fatface Gartslime will not be able to hobnob with the Premiership's great and good like some Johnny Bigtime. 2. Local derbies at Blackpool, Preston and Burnley. And in seasons to come Bury, Accrington and Morecombe. (Morecombe!Licking my lips already). 3. We can re-sign Trevor Morgan. What a legend. 4. No queues for pies at half-time. 5. They can lay off dozens of those fat-ar*ed stewards and just open the West stand lower. 6. Far less silly kick-off times to suit Sky. The list goes on. Bear in mind that season ticket prices will go up. Remember that fiddle. When we are promoted ticket prices go up because of the higher standard, when we are relegated prices go up because there are more games. Contributions gratefully recieved.

Usual positive and supportive comments GC (as well as completely factually incorrect comments about ticket prices, which were in fact frozen this year- but then you wouldnt know that as you dont go anymore). But who is this "we" you speak of? You have proudly stated you dont go watching BWFC anymore and seem to spend most of your spare time slagging off everything to do with the club on this website- in my opinion therefore you are no longer part of "we"

Well I had a season ticket for 20 plus years and have been four times this season. I have seen one good game. The Middlesboro' game was particularly poor, given the fact that we played one striker at home against a weak team of strugglers. Just when do i lose the right to voice an opinion then? Is it only those with season tickets this season? Or those with season tickets who are also in Lifeline and buy a pie at half-time? I did'nt realise that this site was just for those who spent most money. Perhaps we should also rule out comments from that guy in Thailand who keeps posting because he does'nt fly back every week to watch the games. Fact is the fans have been let down and it takes an idiot, a masochist or a numbskull to keep turning up week after week smiling benignly at Megslime's mismanagement. Please tick the one that applies to you.

I go to the match on a Saturday because its what I look forward to, and when its good its fantastic (Stelios last minute winner, beating Utd & Wigan). I dont feel like an idiot, a masochist or a numbskull and I dont smile benignly, I voice my frustration when I think mistakes are being made either by the manager or the players or the ref. Its part of being a football fan, if you dont want to go that's fine, just leave the rest of us to get on with it.

Sorry Trotter but that is the only way we are going to get change at the top. (Unless a billionaire comes along)

fernando wrote:
I fully agree Trotter. But Megson is not to blame for our position. I was not happy with his appointment, nor was I happy with LSL, but sacking him now and bringing back Big Sam would make our club as big a joke as Newcastle. The one month window is a killer for clubs like ours. I would love to see changes, but we are stuck in a relegation battle and have to bring in better players than another 5 teams all with money to spend and all seemingly chasing the same quality. Megson has a f*****g hard job to do and if he can do better than the other five managers then he will have done all that has been asked. We will stay up and he and gartside will stay on as leaders. If he fails and we go down then he should be sacked because he will have not done his job. Gartside should also go because he appointed two bad managers. You may well then get the changes you want, but to get them will cost us a place in the prem. Sorry Trotter but that is the only way we are going to get change at the top. (Unless a billionaire comes along)

ad_bwfc wrote:
na trotter i havent read it anywhere unfortunatly ,i did however read niklas betnar wants first team football, brummies had him on loan last season and did well so his ego isnt to big to drop down a few clubs, plus he wouldnt have to take a wage cut as he hasnt signed a new arsenal contract and there fore would be on the same contract he was on two years as a teenager, no more that 10k a week.

Trotter wrote:

fernando wrote: I fully agree Trotter. But Megson is not to blame for our position. I was not happy with his appointment, nor was I happy with LSL, but sacking him now and bringing back Big Sam would make our club as big a joke as Newcastle. The one month window is a killer for clubs like ours. I would love to see changes, but we are stuck in a relegation battle and have to bring in better players than another 5 teams all with money to spend and all seemingly chasing the same quality. Megson has a f*****g hard job to do and if he can do better than the other five managers then he will have done all that has been asked. We will stay up and he and gartside will stay on as leaders. If he fails and we go down then he should be sacked because he will have not done his job. Gartside should also go because he appointed two bad managers. You may well then get the changes you want, but to get them will cost us a place in the prem. Sorry Trotter but that is the only way we are going to get change at the top. (Unless a billionaire comes along)

Just a few of my admissions: Forget Allardyce (don't want him near the club) Support Megson (He is our manager, should always support your manager) Rid the club NOW of surplus players (Braaten etc) Why oh Why has Gartside not seen all this mess we are in now, before he appointed Sammy Lee and Gary Megson? (both decisions I did not agree with, but once aboard I have supported. We do need to gamble, which is better than standing still, if you like the Balde deal would be a gamble I would take, not having it that Balde or his agent would not surrender to some kind of contract that suits both parties. I am very a very worried and realistic Bolton fan.

exiledboltonian wrote:

Son of Sasa wrote:

BWFC - TIL - I - DIE wrote:

weonly8manu wrote: The Ginge is tactically useless and i dont think he is able to persuade players of the Gudjohnson / Djorkaeff /Okocha calibre. The supporters are behind the team, they can see everyone is giving 100% in effort, unfortunately at any level that just isnt good enough. Also fans should lay off Nolan. I think as captain of the team he is feeling the pressure more than most and maybe having to do too much to cover for the sh&te around him is putting him off his own game.

YOU CANT JUDGE MEGSON UNTIL HE'S BROUGHT IN HIS OWN PLAYERS........

Well said BWFC. I'm sure that a few more will follow Cid out of the door, namely Braaten, Alonso, Helguson and Samuel. Megson will be looking to clear out the players he does'nt rate and bring in his own choices.

WRONG HE BROUGHT IN HIW OWN PLAYERS AT FOREST (FAILED) BROUGHT IN HIS OWN PLAYERS AT WEST BROM (FAILED ) BROUGHT IN HIS OWN PLAYERS AT BLACKPOOL NORWICH STOCKPORT (FAILED) SO STOP THIS BACKING HIM UP B0LLOX AND WAKE UP SMELL THE COFFEE THE GUYS A BORN LOSER

ad_bwfc wrote:
Grétar Steinsson 3 mill Matty Taylor 4 mill Niklas Bentnar (arsenal) 5.5 mill Leeroy Lita (dont like him but anyway)3 mill Gary Cahill (villa) 4 mill Drew Surman (southampton)3 mill total = 22.5 million we got 15 mill for anelka and we had six million before we sold him. doesnt seem that hard to me If we signed those i'd be delighted. doubt it would happen tho

BWFC - TIL - I - DIE wrote:

Sorry Trotter but that is the only way we are going to get change at the top. (Unless a billionaire comes along)

i was going to suggest max and paddy, bolton through and through and worth a few quid, instead of a 15mil yacht theyve got a £1500 motor home!!! having said this, weve already got a class A comedian in charge with gartside.

andy_surrey wrote:

ad_bwfc wrote: Grétar Steinsson 3 mill Matty Taylor 4 mill Niklas Bentnar (arsenal) 5.5 mill Leeroy Lita (dont like him but anyway)3 mill Gary Cahill (villa) 4 mill Drew Surman (southampton)3 mill total = 22.5 million we got 15 mill for anelka and we had six million before we sold him. doesnt seem that hard to me If we signed those i'd be delighted. doubt it would happen tho

I think you need to stick to playing Football Manager on the PC. It's the only way those players will sign for the club in the state we are in.

andy_surrey wrote:

BWFC - TIL - I - DIE wrote:

Sorry Trotter but that is the only way we are going to get change at the top. (Unless a billionaire comes along)

i was going to suggest max and paddy, bolton through and through and worth a few quid, instead of a 15mil yacht theyve got a £1500 motor home!!! having said this, weve already got a class A comedian in charge with gartside.

I thought Max was managing Liverpool? :-)

amosc99 wrote:

BWFC - TIL - I - DIE wrote:

Martin Duggan wrote: I think at the moment we are suffering from a lack of investment in good young players over the last 2 or 3 years

more like 9 years i think martin... for all bsa's achievments, he seemed to have no interest in bringing through youth..... you only need to look at the national teams ignorance in that department to realise that if you dont concentrate on youth consistently it eventually comes back to bite you.... it is now biting at the reebok...... severely...

Big Sam brought in at least 3 players from the youth squad and was prepared to give others from the youth squad a chance every now and again - which is more than can be said for more than half the teams in the Premiership.


Where do you thin players like Nolan, Hunt and Vaz Te came from????

Sam created the youth's own management team and it was them that was bringing players through and Sam did experiment with a few - remember a youth squad only produces a very small percentage of decent players (whether they are British youth squad teams or overseas)!!!

ad_bwfc wrote:
andy_surrey, Woking there is nothing wrong with playing a bit of football manager

burndenboy wrote:

amosc99 wrote:

BWFC - TIL - I - DIE wrote:

Martin Duggan wrote: I think at the moment we are suffering from a lack of investment in good young players over the last 2 or 3 years

more like 9 years i think martin... for all bsa's achievments, he seemed to have no interest in bringing through youth..... you only need to look at the national teams ignorance in that department to realise that if you dont concentrate on youth consistently it eventually comes back to bite you.... it is now biting at the reebok...... severely...

Big Sam brought in at least 3 players from the youth squad and was prepared to give others from the youth squad a chance every now and again - which is more than can be said for more than half the teams in the Premiership. Where do you thin players like Nolan, Hunt and Vaz Te came from???? Sam created the youth's own management team and it was them that was bringing players through and Sam did experiment with a few - remember a youth squad only produces a very small percentage of decent players (whether they are British youth squad teams or overseas)!!!

To have produced Nolan, Hunt, O'Brien and Vaz Te does not say much for the Academy when you consider how long it has been going and the amount of money pumped into it. If they can only produce a small quantity of decent players, they may as well scrap it and use the money to buy players in or line Davies and Gartsides pockets.

ad_bwfc wrote:
andy_surrey, Woking there is nothing wrong with playing a bit of football manager

Den wrote:
Its ok having an academy...its ok pumping money into and nurse maiding some of these players along........BUT.... ....AT SOME POINT YOU HAVE TO BLOOD THEM, THROW THEM INTO THE DEEP END.......see how they react/perform, we just dont this at BWFC...... Taggart is very very good at doing this, so his the surrender monkey down at the rag head stadium...... CID v FOJUT.......no contest...FOJUT far more capable player/defender.....

GC wrote:

Jon W wrote:

GC wrote:

Steven Williams wrote:

GC wrote: We might as well accept now that we are going down. Megson's statement is part of the preparation for that. Manipulating the fans again. Although we will not spend the Anelka money, you can guarantee that the debt will go up. Always does, no matter how much money we take in. Still in true LSL fashion we should look at the positives. Here are a few. Anyone like to add? 1. Fatface Gartslime will not be able to hobnob with the Premiership's great and good like some Johnny Bigtime. 2. Local derbies at Blackpool, Preston and Burnley. And in seasons to come Bury, Accrington and Morecombe. (Morecombe!Licking my lips already). 3. We can re-sign Trevor Morgan. What a legend. 4. No queues for pies at half-time. 5. They can lay off dozens of those fat-ar*ed stewards and just open the West stand lower. 6. Far less silly kick-off times to suit Sky. The list goes on. Bear in mind that season ticket prices will go up. Remember that fiddle. When we are promoted ticket prices go up because of the higher standard, when we are relegated prices go up because there are more games. Contributions gratefully recieved.

Usual positive and supportive comments GC (as well as completely factually incorrect comments about ticket prices, which were in fact frozen this year- but then you wouldnt know that as you dont go anymore). But who is this "we" you speak of? You have proudly stated you dont go watching BWFC anymore and seem to spend most of your spare time slagging off everything to do with the club on this website- in my opinion therefore you are no longer part of "we"

Well I had a season ticket for 20 plus years and have been four times this season. I have seen one good game. The Middlesboro' game was particularly poor, given the fact that we played one striker at home against a weak team of strugglers. Just when do i lose the right to voice an opinion then? Is it only those with season tickets this season? Or those with season tickets who are also in Lifeline and buy a pie at half-time? I did'nt realise that this site was just for those who spent most money. Perhaps we should also rule out comments from that guy in Thailand who keeps posting because he does'nt fly back every week to watch the games. Fact is the fans have been let down and it takes an idiot, a masochist or a numbskull to keep turning up week after week smiling benignly at Megslime's mismanagement. Please tick the one that applies to you.

I go to the match on a Saturday because its what I look forward to, and when its good its fantastic (Stelios last minute winner, beating Utd & Wigan). I dont feel like an idiot, a masochist or a numbskull and I dont smile benignly, I voice my frustration when I think mistakes are being made either by the manager or the players or the ref. Its part of being a football fan, if you dont want to go that's fine, just leave the rest of us to get on with it.

I have done. Enjoy! Pillock.

Steven Williams wrote:

GC wrote:

Jon W wrote:

GC wrote:

Steven Williams wrote:

GC wrote: We might as well accept now that we are going down. Megson's statement is part of the preparation for that. Manipulating the fans again. Although we will not spend the Anelka money, you can guarantee that the debt will go up. Always does, no matter how much money we take in. Still in true LSL fashion we should look at the positives. Here are a few. Anyone like to add? 1. Fatface Gartslime will not be able to hobnob with the Premiership's great and good like some Johnny Bigtime. 2. Local derbies at Blackpool, Preston and Burnley. And in seasons to come Bury, Accrington and Morecombe. (Morecombe!Licking my lips already). 3. We can re-sign Trevor Morgan. What a legend. 4. No queues for pies at half-time. 5. They can lay off dozens of those fat-ar*ed stewards and just open the West stand lower. 6. Far less silly kick-off times to suit Sky. The list goes on. Bear in mind that season ticket prices will go up. Remember that fiddle. When we are promoted ticket prices go up because of the higher standard, when we are relegated prices go up because there are more games. Contributions gratefully recieved.

Usual positive and supportive comments GC (as well as completely factually incorrect comments about ticket prices, which were in fact frozen this year- but then you wouldnt know that as you dont go anymore). But who is this "we" you speak of? You have proudly stated you dont go watching BWFC anymore and seem to spend most of your spare time slagging off everything to do with the club on this website- in my opinion therefore you are no longer part of "we"

Well I had a season ticket for 20 plus years and have been four times this season. I have seen one good game. The Middlesboro' game was particularly poor, given the fact that we played one striker at home against a weak team of strugglers. Just when do i lose the right to voice an opinion then? Is it only those with season tickets this season? Or those with season tickets who are also in Lifeline and buy a pie at half-time? I did'nt realise that this site was just for those who spent most money. Perhaps we should also rule out comments from that guy in Thailand who keeps posting because he does'nt fly back every week to watch the games. Fact is the fans have been let down and it takes an idiot, a masochist or a numbskull to keep turning up week after week smiling benignly at Megslime's mismanagement. Please tick the one that applies to you.

I go to the match on a Saturday because its what I look forward to, and when its good its fantastic (Stelios last minute winner, beating Utd & Wigan). I dont feel like an idiot, a masochist or a numbskull and I dont smile benignly, I voice my frustration when I think mistakes are being made either by the manager or the players or the ref. Its part of being a football fan, if you dont want to go that's fine, just leave the rest of us to get on with it.

I have done. Enjoy! Pillock.

You've withdrawn financially- time to withdraw emotionally too as you just come across as the most bitter, twisted and hostile person on this website (and there's a bit of competition to be honest)- or is pouring your hatred out at BWFC the only way you can cope with your disastrous job/life/marriage?