John Byrom wrote:
Do I detect we are being groomed to expect no more signings?

Bolton Billy, why do you even bother watching Bolton if you hate so much about them?

breezeblock wrote:
"Every year they take the same week off and go abroad when importance should be made of the transfer window - especially this year!!!!!" Yeah, what with having no phones in Spain and all...

Darron Eaton wrote:
A striker and a centre back must come in in the next week or we are relegated it's a s simple as that. I will maintain that we did not need to sell Anelka now and the difficluty in getting in overpriced replacements is only convincing me more. How a club can leave itself in this position I don't know (only 1 striker and 1 proper centreback). Not the behaviour of a professional outfit. The stupidity of it is astounding. Once again, a striker & centre back in the next 8 days or we're relegated no question. Pull your finger out Gartside (the chairman who is the perfect embodyment of the businessmen chairman who makes stupid decisions because he has no real football knowledge - his epitaph may well read Appointed Lee, sold Anelka, got the boot after relegation).

dirty northern wrote:

Darron Eaton wrote:
A striker and a centre back must come in in the next week or we are relegated it's a s simple as that. I will maintain that we did not need to sell Anelka now and the difficluty in getting in overpriced replacements is only convincing me more. How a club can leave itself in this position I don't know (only 1 striker and 1 proper centreback). Not the behaviour of a professional outfit. The stupidity of it is astounding. Once again, a striker & centre back in the next 8 days or we're relegated no question. Pull your finger out Gartside (the chairman who is the perfect embodyment of the businessmen chairman who makes stupid decisions because he has no real football knowledge - his epitaph may well read Appointed Lee, sold Anelka, got the boot after relegation).

"the chairman who is the perfect embodyment of the businessmen chairman who makes stupid decisions because he has no real football knowledge - his epitaph may well read Appointed Lee, sold Anelka, got the boot after relegation"

Or perhaps it could read, "saved club from administration, apointed Allardyce, got us promoted, stayed up, qualified for europe, signed Jay Jay/Hiero/Djorkaef ect, qualified for europe, signed Anelka, presided over the most succesful period in the clubs history since the 50's...and so on"

"pull your finger out gartside" - do you even realise he doesnt own the club?? How do you know it isnt Davies who has stopped the spending or perhaps its Megson who hasnt been able to find what he wants?? Why attack gartside??

PLEASE ALL NOTE - 1) The transfer window isnt over as yet. 2) we have just signed our two most expensive defenders ever 3) We dont have a fixture until tuesday next week i.e. no rush 4) just because the team is in spain doesnt mean Megson is there or is stuck there - it takes a few hours to fly back.

People on here are never happy. Cheer up!

just because the team is in spain doesnt mean Megson is there or is stuck there - it takes a few hours to fly back.

amosc99 wrote:

just because the team is in spain doesnt mean Megson is there or is stuck there - it takes a few hours to fly back.

Those few hours could end up being crucial hours for the signing or signing or a new player!!!

MarkHatton88 wrote:
but this is exactly what im saying, why as a club are we now almost settling for second best...your comment states ''Villa have two very good strikers ahead of him''..villa were behind us last season now bolton want theyre rejects to form theyre first choice strike force? if moore comes and does the job to a very efficient standard then hands up im wrong your right, but i cant help but feel that our club is becomming far far less ambitious and that as loyal supporter worries me senseless...cos now i have to put up with bloody blackburn and city fans giving it all the talk whilst we battle it out with wigan!

Aidan wrote:
Why isnt Moore good enough. Do you think we have anyone at the club who is better in that position. Davies, Vaz Te, Helgusson adn Harsanyi. Are these quicker, will these worry defenses, will they get behind the opposition. No, we need two forwards but one has to have pace. There arent many available as quick as him for that price. He isnt poor, Villa have two very good strikers ahead of him, an even faster one and a big man, we have the big man, it makes perfgect sense to get him in now. If we go for a foreigner we will have to wait 2-3 months for them to settle, we dont have the time to waste.

MarkHatton88 wrote:
moore is differnet though, he has potential but has never ever shown it on a CONSISTANT level, Kevin was immense for saints before he left, campo capped by spain and regular for madrid for 3 seasons, hierro = do i really need to explain that one! and djorkeff is one of frances greats. What has moore ever achieved???

Aidan wrote:
Mark: i understand what your saying however this season everything changed. When Billionaire owners take over clubs like Villa, West Ham, Man City, suddenly all the gradual build up over the past 5 years get wiped out overnight. Unfortunately 11th is about the best we can hope for until we either join the billionaires or the foreign owners get bored and destroy the clubs that have sold out. The 'reserves' from the team who were mid table last year are the player we need as they have already proven they can perform at this average level. Its the reality of the game and throwing 9 million on unproven swedish srikers from the french league is an unproven risk were as less money on a premiership sriker seems like much safer business.

Aidan wrote:
Mark: i understand what your saying however this season everything changed. When Billionaire owners take over clubs like Villa, West Ham, Man City, suddenly all the gradual build up over the past 5 years get wiped out overnight. Unfortunately 11th is about the best we can hope for until we either join the billionaires or the foreign owners get bored and destroy the clubs that have sold out. The 'reserves' from the team who were mid table last year are the player we need as they have already proven they can perform at this average level. Its the reality of the game and throwing 9 million on unproven swedish srikers from the french league is an unproven risk were as less money on a premiership sriker seems like much safer business.

Aidan wrote:
Mark: i understand what your saying however this season everything changed. When Billionaire owners take over clubs like Villa, West Ham, Man City, suddenly all the gradual build up over the past 5 years get wiped out overnight. Unfortunately 11th is about the best we can hope for until we either join the billionaires or the foreign owners get bored and destroy the clubs that have sold out. The 'reserves' from the team who were mid table last year are the player we need as they have already proven they can perform at this average level. Its the reality of the game and throwing 9 million on unproven swedish srikers from the french league is an unproven risk were as less money on a premiership sriker seems like much safer business.

Aidan wrote:
Kevin was immense for Saints. He was good first time round, then failed miserably at Blackburn and was left out of a squad of 16 for the cup final, going with Crouch, beatie and omerod. He was released by strachan for free, i wouldnt describe this as immense. Also moores scoring record, how many of those caps has he played 90 minutes - about 5%. What was diouf record at Liverpool. 3 goals in 45 appearences. It isnt necessarily all about finding a replacement for Anelkas goals, if there was another available 20 goal a season man, than Chelsea would have signed him. We need to add what we dont have - PACE. He may only score 5 goals but could be involved in 15.

Aidan wrote:
Kevin was immense for Saints. He was good first time round, then failed miserably at Blackburn and was left out of a squad of 16 for the cup final, going with Crouch, beatie and omerod. He was released by strachan for free, i wouldnt describe this as immense. Also moores scoring record, how many of those caps has he played 90 minutes - about 5%. What was diouf record at Liverpool. 3 goals in 45 appearences. It isnt necessarily all about finding a replacement for Anelkas goals, if there was another available 20 goal a season man, than Chelsea would have signed him. We need to add what we dont have - PACE. He may only score 5 goals but could be involved in 15.

Aidan wrote:
Kevin was immense for Saints. He was good first time round, then failed miserably at Blackburn and was left out of a squad of 16 for the cup final, going with Crouch, beatie and omerod. He was released by strachan for free, i wouldnt describe this as immense. Also moores scoring record, how many of those caps has he played 90 minutes - about 5%. What was diouf record at Liverpool. 3 goals in 45 appearences. It isnt necessarily all about finding a replacement for Anelkas goals, if there was another available 20 goal a season man, than Chelsea would have signed him. We need to add what we dont have - PACE. He may only score 5 goals but could be involved in 15.

Aidan wrote:
Why isnt Moore good enough. Do you think we have anyone at the club who is better in that position. Davies, Vaz Te, Helgusson adn Harsanyi. Are these quicker, will these worry defenses, will they get behind the opposition. No, we need two forwards but one has to have pace. There arent many available as quick as him for that price. He isnt poor, Villa have two very good strikers ahead of him, an even faster one and a big man, we have the big man, it makes perfgect sense to get him in now. If we go for a foreigner we will have to wait 2-3 months for them to settle, we dont have the time to waste.

Aidan wrote:
Kevin was immense for Saints. He was good first time round, then failed miserably at Blackburn and was left out of a squad of 16 for the cup final, going with Crouch, beatie and omerod. He was released by strachan for free, i wouldnt describe this as immense. Also moores scoring record, how many of those caps has he played 90 minutes - about 5%. What was diouf record at Liverpool. 3 goals in 45 appearences. It isnt necessarily all about finding a replacement for Anelkas goals, if there was another available 20 goal a season man, than Chelsea would have signed him. We need to add what we dont have - PACE. He may only score 5 goals but could be involved in 15.

Gloucster White wrote:
Ok maybe this is me being thick so can someone help me sort this out. We have Kevin Davies who is the only fit striker at the moment, going to be at least another month before the other two are match fit, Diouf will be back in about a month unless he gets injured. So heres my problem why the flip is Megson looking at defenders or defence midfielders and not bidding for attacking players, Baros is available on loan so are a bunch of others but i have read no reports of us being link with any forward thinking players, is it because we are a backward thinking club. Please help my head hurts

BWFC - TIL - I - DIE wrote:
Bolton are being linked with a £3million swoop for St Etienne striker Pascal Feindouno as a replacement for Nicolas Anelka Trotters boss Gary Megson has the £15million raised from the sale of Anelka to Chelsea burning a hole in his pocket and it seems as though some of it could go on African ace Feindouno. The 26-year-old is currently with Guinea at the African Nations Cup in Ghana and according to reports Megson has sent an agent and chief scout Colin Harvey over to Africa to wrap up a deal. Megson is still waiting to hear whether he has been successful with the two offers that have gone in for unnamed Premiership players, but is casting his net far and wide in the meantime

MarkHatton88 wrote:

dirty northern wrote:

Darron Eaton wrote: A striker and a centre back must come in in the next week or we are relegated it's a s simple as that. I will maintain that we did not need to sell Anelka now and the difficluty in getting in overpriced replacements is only convincing me more. How a club can leave itself in this position I don't know (only 1 striker and 1 proper centreback). Not the behaviour of a professional outfit. The stupidity of it is astounding. Once again, a striker & centre back in the next 8 days or we're relegated no question. Pull your finger out Gartside (the chairman who is the perfect embodyment of the businessmen chairman who makes stupid decisions because he has no real football knowledge - his epitaph may well read Appointed Lee, sold Anelka, got the boot after relegation).

"the chairman who is the perfect embodyment of the businessmen chairman who makes stupid decisions because he has no real football knowledge - his epitaph may well read Appointed Lee, sold Anelka, got the boot after relegation" Or perhaps it could read, "saved club from administration, apointed Allardyce, got us promoted, stayed up, qualified for europe, signed Jay Jay/Hiero/Djorkaef ect, qualified for europe, signed Anelka, presided over the most succesful period in the clubs history since the 50's...and so on" "pull your finger out gartside" - do you even realise he doesnt own the club?? How do you know it isnt Davies who has stopped the spending or perhaps its Megson who hasnt been able to find what he wants?? Why attack gartside?? PLEASE ALL NOTE - 1) The transfer window isnt over as yet. 2) we have just signed our two most expensive defenders ever 3) We dont have a fixture until tuesday next week i.e. no rush 4) just because the team is in spain doesnt mean Megson is there or is stuck there - it takes a few hours to fly back. People on here are never happy. Cheer up!

u moron! enough said

MarkHatton88 wrote:
because gartside is an idiot! how can you even begin to defend him! because im 19...only been a footy fan since 9 lol.

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Trotter wrote:
Not much fun sat here with my finger hovering over the "PANIC BUTTON" ready to blast Gartside with both barrels, this transfer window like it or not is one of the most important to BWFC than any other transfer window, the fact that us supporters are still smarting from the comment from Gartside that we have a contingency plan for every single position, still gets up my back, this business man who knows nothing about football but only the accountant books needs a rocket up his back-side because if he fails to deliver this time, he and his account books will be heading out of the club for good, maybe it will be at the end of the season but will no doubt be OUT. Keep the faith

Martin Duggan wrote:

Trotter wrote: Not much fun sat here with my finger hovering over the "PANIC BUTTON" ready to blast Gartside with both barrels, this transfer window like it or not is one of the most important to BWFC than any other transfer window, the fact that us supporters are still smarting from the comment from Gartside that we have a contingency plan for every single position, still gets up my back, this business man who knows nothing about football but only the accountant books needs a rocket up his back-side because if he fails to deliver this time, he and his account books will be heading out of the club for good, maybe it will be at the end of the season but will no doubt be OUT. Keep the faith

Deliver what???? How will it be his fault if we cant sign the people that Megson wants. If they wont come, they wont come. As I have metioned above, I'm sure people do not realise the cost of the playing staff in wages and fees . If for example we signed a player for 10 mill and put him on a 4 year contract for 60K per week that would cost us a total of 22.5mill (inc transfer fee) for the whole package and thats just one player!!! 22.5Million Pounds for ONE player. Theres not many teams can afford that. We will therefore be looking at the lower end of the market like most other prem clubs, barring the usual suspects that is.

Andy W wrote:

MarkHatton88 wrote:
because gartside is an idiot! how can you even begin to defend him! because im 19...only been a footy fan since 9 lol.

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You are an idiot with a chav's understanding of business. Gartside is simply one of the best chairmen in the country. What he has done with the club in really difficult circumstances is amazing. If you can't see that...well...what is there to say?

breezeblock wrote:
Hilarious, a 19 year old law student who thinks he has a good understanding of business. I think the first rule of studying is to perhaps remember your subject. Now if you said it was a degree in economics then maybe you could be taken seriously but the truth is the vast majority on here who question Gartside's financial ability could simply not interpret a set of company accounts...even if an accountant sat next to them and help them. And explained some of the long words. And skipped the tricky bits. Conversely those who don't question Garstide's financial ability appear to have some business nouse themselves. I can't explain that...but it seems to be the truth.

MarkHatton88 wrote:

Andy W wrote:

MarkHatton88 wrote: because gartside is an idiot! how can you even begin to defend him! because im 19...only been a footy fan since 9 lol.

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You are an idiot with a chav's understanding of business. Gartside is simply one of the best chairmen in the country. What he has done with the club in really difficult circumstances is amazing. If you can't see that...well...what is there to say?

So im an idiot with a chavs understanding of business...lol you do make me laugh, your comments become more bizzare by the minute, im actually a law student at one of the uk's top uni's,dont find many idiots doing that to be honest. Secondly my knowlegde of gartside is based upon the great majority of bolton fans, hes sent this club down the gutter and thats not just my opinion. Might be a good chairmen in the past fair play..but look at the club recently. I wouldnt put it past u being a junkie or just a chav yourself who has to stay on a football forum day in day out of his life because his own life is so miserable..get a life son

Trotter wrote:
Arsenal striker Niklas Bendter was apparently left with a cut nose following an altercation with team-mate Emmanuel Adebayor during last night's 5-1 defeat to Tottenham. (Various) Get this lad signed up, clearly not happy at the Gunners after watching him last night, not on a big wage either which will suit Gartside.

breezeblock wrote:
Hilarious, a 19 year old law student who thinks he has a good understanding of business. I think the first rule of studying is to perhaps remember your subject. Now if you said it was a degree in economics then maybe you could be taken seriously but the truth is the vast majority on here who question Gartside's financial ability could simply not interpret a set of company accounts...even if an accountant sat next to them and help them. And explained some of the long words. And skipped the tricky bits. Conversely those who don't question Garstide's financial ability appear to have some business nouse themselves. I can't explain that...but it seems to be the truth.

breezeblock wrote:
Hilarious, a 19 year old law student who thinks he has a good understanding of business. I think the first rule of studying is to perhaps remember your subject. Now if you said it was a degree in economics then maybe you could be taken seriously but the truth is the vast majority on here who question Gartside's financial ability could simply not interpret a set of company accounts...even if an accountant sat next to them and help them. And explained some of the long words. And skipped the tricky bits. Conversely those who don't question Garstide's financial ability appear to have some business nouse themselves. I can't explain that...but it seems to be the truth.

Jacko wrote:
Isnt it easy to criticise when you live down south & dont go yourself?,& town do you mean Horwich or Bolton!!!.

Jacko wrote:
I think you deserve a medal then for that!!!.

rob wrote:
Bolton are one of the other teams as well as sunderland who are trying to land marlon king from watford for 5.5 mln, what do we all think, would he be a good signing ?? forget about mellberg, he's to old and as for gary cahill, he's young - english and quite a good defender from what i've seen of him, so yes he would be a good risk if we took him on loan and we buy 2 strikers instead ie, marlon king and jason roberts - offer 4.5 for each !!

Jacko wrote:
I dont rate Meite his positional play is awful,Wes Brown for me!!.8 days 4 hrs & 53 mins left of the transfer window get a move on!!.

Jacko wrote:
I asked last week & i ask again, what is the point of Ian Walker at the club on a good wage?.

hierro wrote:
Am i the only wanderers fan who thinks that Meite isn't that bad - he does remind me of Chris Fairclough a bit though when he has time on the ball !!

please explain this to me then, why does gartside sign off the refreshment counters to de veres???

hierro wrote:
Am i the only wanderers fan who thinks that Meite isn't that bad - he does remind me of Chris Fairclough a bit though when he has time on the ball !!

fernando wrote:
Just had a call from a friend of mine who is a catering manager in london. He did a buffet at white hart lane last night and overheard a conversation about wanderers putting an offer in for Darren Bent. He did not know who they were or how much the offer was for, so it may just be a couple of punters having a chat about a rumour. I would prefer Bent to Marlon King, at least Bent has scored a decent amount in the prem. I know hes not worth 16 mill, but a deal around 6 million would be worth it. Its probably just pie in the sky, but I'm starting to worry we are going to finish up with a 2nd string striker from an average prem club or an overated striker from the fizzy league.

smithy wrote:
sky sports Jussi Jaaskelainen has yet to commit to Bolton so Gary Megson will look to bring in another goalkeeper, possibly Dudu Aouate of Deportivo La Coruna. The Bolton boss is unlikely to do much more business and his main priority will be ensuring no more of his top players leave The Reebok Stadium.

trottersforever wrote:

smithy wrote: sky sports Jussi Jaaskelainen has yet to commit to Bolton so Gary Megson will look to bring in another goalkeeper, possibly Dudu Aouate of Deportivo La Coruna. The Bolton boss is unlikely to do much more business and his main priority will be ensuring no more of his top players leave The Reebok Stadium.

I used to have Aouate in my Spanish Fantasy Football team and he was very hot and cold, one week he'd make lots of saves and gain lots of points, the next he'd let in several goals and end up with a minus score. Why do we need to bring in another GK when we have Al Habsi sitting on the bench week in week out?? We don't need to be spending money on a GK when we are desperate for a striker !!

hierro wrote:
Am i the only wanderers fan who thinks that Meite isn't that bad - he does remind me of Chris Fairclough a bit though when he has time on the ball !!

breezeblock wrote:
Brownie, so if the BWSA had more members what would change? Let's say the membership went to 3,000...would it still just be a glorified social club?

please explain this to me then, why does gartside sign off the refreshment counters to de veres???

Birch, what do you mean by signing off?

breezeblock wrote:
It's a standard agreement at most new stadia that the catering in the concourses is sub-contract by way of open tender. Basically it's not worth the hassle to do it themselves so it makes sense to take a fee instead. Is that such a big deal? Bolton are a football club after all - not a pie making firm. Bolton also has grounds maintenance contracts all around the stadium - are you saying we should buy a load of lawnmowers, spades and rakes and do it ourselves? It's just common practice. It's really no big deal.

breezeblock wrote:
Yes, of course...you're right. You're obviously a businessman. By the way, Arsenal sub-contract their refreshment kiosks.