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5:16am Wednesday 23rd January 2008
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GARY Megson's persuasive powers could be tested to the limit if he pursues his interest in Aston Villa defensive duo, Gary Cahill and Olof Mellberg.
The Wanderers boss appeared to be dealt a double blow yesterday when Villa boss, Martin O'Neill, revealed he had rejected a number of offers for 22-year-old Cahill, while Juventus revealed they were close to agreeing a pre-contract deal with Mellberg.
Although Megson has not confirmed an interest in either player, Wanderers are understood to have made a bold attempt to hi-jack Mellberg's proposed move to Italy and tabled a bid for Cahill, the young centre-back Sammy Lee tried to sign just before the August transfer deadline.
With the January window closing in eight days, the rumour mill is hotting up with Wanderers linked with a range of players, based at home and abroad.
Read the full story in The Bolton News on Wednesday.
John Byrom, Bolton says...
7:29am Wed 23 Jan 08
suffrinmick, bolton says...
7:46am Wed 23 Jan 08
Chris Manning, Gotham City PD, says...
8:14am Wed 23 Jan 08
Nik, London says...
8:37am Wed 23 Jan 08
John Byrom wrote:Now what makes you think that?
Do I detect we are being groomed to expect no more signings?
Pele, rio says...
8:46am Wed 23 Jan 08
Darron Eaton, Horwich says...
8:47am Wed 23 Jan 08
Steve Battersby, Oldham says...
8:54am Wed 23 Jan 08
jp cotton, heywood says...
9:11am Wed 23 Jan 08
Aidan, sheffield says...
9:12am Wed 23 Jan 08
Andy, Staffordshire says...
9:22am Wed 23 Jan 08
BWFC - TIL - I - DIE, BOLTON says...
10:00am Wed 23 Jan 08
breezeblock, Manchester says...
10:04am Wed 23 Jan 08
amosc99, Overseas says...
10:06am Wed 23 Jan 08
amosc99, Overseas says...
10:11am Wed 23 Jan 08
amosc99, Overseas says...
10:16am Wed 23 Jan 08
breezeblock, Manchester says...
10:18am Wed 23 Jan 08
Bolton Billy, Daubhill says...
10:18am Wed 23 Jan 08
beer ok, alcatraz says...
10:20am Wed 23 Jan 08
breezeblock, Manchester says...
10:33am Wed 23 Jan 08
Brak, Bolton says...
10:44am Wed 23 Jan 08
Bolton Billy, why do you even bother watching Bolton if you hate so much about them?
amosc99, Overseas says...
10:55am Wed 23 Jan 08
breezeblock wrote:Phones are not that good when it comes to transfer talk etc... Megson et al should be over here doing the deals in person, sorting out the importance of what we need, talking to select parties about the transfers rather than sunning it and not, basically, doing nothing for best part of week except for getting the team unfit!!!!
"Every year they take the same week off and go abroad when importance should be made of the transfer window - especially this year!!!!!" Yeah, what with having no phones in Spain and all...
dirty northern, says...
11:19am Wed 23 Jan 08
Darron Eaton wrote:"the chairman who is the perfect embodyment of the businessmen chairman who makes stupid decisions because he has no real football knowledge - his epitaph may well read Appointed Lee, sold Anelka, got the boot after relegation"
A striker and a centre back must come in in the next week or we are relegated it's a s simple as that. I will maintain that we did not need to sell Anelka now and the difficluty in getting in overpriced replacements is only convincing me more. How a club can leave itself in this position I don't know (only 1 striker and 1 proper centreback). Not the behaviour of a professional outfit. The stupidity of it is astounding. Once again, a striker & centre back in the next 8 days or we're relegated no question. Pull your finger out Gartside (the chairman who is the perfect embodyment of the businessmen chairman who makes stupid decisions because he has no real football knowledge - his epitaph may well read Appointed Lee, sold Anelka, got the boot after relegation).
MarkHatton88, Brighton says...
11:29am Wed 23 Jan 08
MarkHatton88, Brighton says...
11:31am Wed 23 Jan 08
dirty northern wrote:u moron! enough said
Darron Eaton wrote:"the chairman who is the perfect embodyment of the businessmen chairman who makes stupid decisions because he has no real football knowledge - his epitaph may well read Appointed Lee, sold Anelka, got the boot after relegation"
A striker and a centre back must come in in the next week or we are relegated it's a s simple as that. I will maintain that we did not need to sell Anelka now and the difficluty in getting in overpriced replacements is only convincing me more. How a club can leave itself in this position I don't know (only 1 striker and 1 proper centreback). Not the behaviour of a professional outfit. The stupidity of it is astounding. Once again, a striker & centre back in the next 8 days or we're relegated no question. Pull your finger out Gartside (the chairman who is the perfect embodyment of the businessmen chairman who makes stupid decisions because he has no real football knowledge - his epitaph may well read Appointed Lee, sold Anelka, got the boot after relegation).
Or perhaps it could read, "saved club from administration, apointed Allardyce, got us promoted, stayed up, qualified for europe, signed Jay Jay/Hiero/Djorkaef ect, qualified for europe, signed Anelka, presided over the most succesful period in the clubs history since the 50's...and so on"
"pull your finger out gartside" - do you even realise he doesnt own the club?? How do you know it isnt Davies who has stopped the spending or perhaps its Megson who hasnt been able to find what he wants?? Why attack gartside??
PLEASE ALL NOTE - 1) The transfer window isnt over as yet. 2) we have just signed our two most expensive defenders ever 3) We dont have a fixture until tuesday next week i.e. no rush 4) just because the team is in spain doesnt mean Megson is there or is stuck there - it takes a few hours to fly back.
People on here are never happy. Cheer up!
Aidan, sheffield says...
11:35am Wed 23 Jan 08
MarkHatton88, Brighton says...
11:40am Wed 23 Jan 08
amosc99, Overseas says...
11:41am Wed 23 Jan 08
just because the team is in spain doesnt mean Megson is there or is stuck there - it takes a few hours to fly back.
amosc99, Overseas says...
11:43am Wed 23 Jan 08
amosc99 wrote:signing or non-signing - it should have read!!!!
just because the team is in spain doesnt mean Megson is there or is stuck there - it takes a few hours to fly back.Those few hours could end up being crucial hours for the signing or signing or a new player!!!
amosc99, Overseas says...
11:44am Wed 23 Jan 08
MarkHatton88 wrote:where was Kev Davies in the pecking order at his old club - same goes for Campo, Hierro, Jay Jay, Djorkeff (sp.) etc...
but this is exactly what im saying, why as a club are we now almost settling for second best...your comment states ''Villa have two very good strikers ahead of him''..villa were behind us last season now bolton want theyre rejects to form theyre first choice strike force? if moore comes and does the job to a very efficient standard then hands up im wrong your right, but i cant help but feel that our club is becomming far far less ambitious and that as loyal supporter worries me senseless...cos now i have to put up with bloody blackburn and city fans giving it all the talk whilst we battle it out with wigan!
ad_bwfc, Essex says...
11:48am Wed 23 Jan 08
Aidan wrote:luke moore isnt good enough because he has scored 14 goals in 84 games. that is one goal in every 6 games. yeh thats really what we need??! thats two possibly three goals for the rest of the season. yeh he's got quick legs but clearly no feet at the end of them!
Why isnt Moore good enough. Do you think we have anyone at the club who is better in that position. Davies, Vaz Te, Helgusson adn Harsanyi. Are these quicker, will these worry defenses, will they get behind the opposition. No, we need two forwards but one has to have pace. There arent many available as quick as him for that price. He isnt poor, Villa have two very good strikers ahead of him, an even faster one and a big man, we have the big man, it makes perfgect sense to get him in now. If we go for a foreigner we will have to wait 2-3 months for them to settle, we dont have the time to waste.
MarkHatton88, Brighton says...
11:50am Wed 23 Jan 08
Aidan, sheffield says...
11:52am Wed 23 Jan 08
Aidan, sheffield says...
11:57am Wed 23 Jan 08
amosc99, Overseas says...
12:03pm Wed 23 Jan 08
MarkHatton88 wrote:but in their final season, or couple of season's for their last clubs - they were either stuck on the bench, stuck in reserves, etc...
moore is differnet though, he has potential but has never ever shown it on a CONSISTANT level, Kevin was immense for saints before he left, campo capped by spain and regular for madrid for 3 seasons, hierro = do i really need to explain that one! and djorkeff is one of frances greats. What has moore ever achieved???
MarkHatton88, Brighton says...
12:04pm Wed 23 Jan 08
Aidan wrote:totally agree, its just a shame that being a newish fan ie last 10 years, the euphoria of bolton is gradually reaching a premature and ultimately disapointing climax. Some of the older bolton fans have felt the lowly lows of supporting bolton, and they will take to it as a reality check more!
Mark: i understand what your saying however this season everything changed. When Billionaire owners take over clubs like Villa, West Ham, Man City, suddenly all the gradual build up over the past 5 years get wiped out overnight. Unfortunately 11th is about the best we can hope for until we either join the billionaires or the foreign owners get bored and destroy the clubs that have sold out. The 'reserves' from the team who were mid table last year are the player we need as they have already proven they can perform at this average level. Its the reality of the game and throwing 9 million on unproven swedish srikers from the french league is an unproven risk were as less money on a premiership sriker seems like much safer business.
MarkHatton88, Brighton says...
12:06pm Wed 23 Jan 08
Aidan wrote:totally agree, its just a shame that being a newish fan ie last 10 years, the euphoria of bolton is gradually reaching a premature and ultimately disapointing climax. Some of the older bolton fans have felt the lowly lows of supporting bolton, and they will take to it as a reality check more!
Mark: i understand what your saying however this season everything changed. When Billionaire owners take over clubs like Villa, West Ham, Man City, suddenly all the gradual build up over the past 5 years get wiped out overnight. Unfortunately 11th is about the best we can hope for until we either join the billionaires or the foreign owners get bored and destroy the clubs that have sold out. The 'reserves' from the team who were mid table last year are the player we need as they have already proven they can perform at this average level. Its the reality of the game and throwing 9 million on unproven swedish srikers from the french league is an unproven risk were as less money on a premiership sriker seems like much safer business.
MarkHatton88, Brighton says...
12:06pm Wed 23 Jan 08
Aidan wrote:totally agree, its just a shame that being a newish fan ie last 10 years, the euphoria of bolton is gradually reaching a premature and ultimately disapointing climax. Some of the older bolton fans have felt the lowly lows of supporting bolton, and they will take to it as a reality check more!
Mark: i understand what your saying however this season everything changed. When Billionaire owners take over clubs like Villa, West Ham, Man City, suddenly all the gradual build up over the past 5 years get wiped out overnight. Unfortunately 11th is about the best we can hope for until we either join the billionaires or the foreign owners get bored and destroy the clubs that have sold out. The 'reserves' from the team who were mid table last year are the player we need as they have already proven they can perform at this average level. Its the reality of the game and throwing 9 million on unproven swedish srikers from the french league is an unproven risk were as less money on a premiership sriker seems like much safer business.
ad_bwfc, Essex says...
12:07pm Wed 23 Jan 08
Aidan wrote:kevin davies 153 (33)
Kevin was immense for Saints. He was good first time round, then failed miserably at Blackburn and was left out of a squad of 16 for the cup final, going with Crouch, beatie and omerod. He was released by strachan for free, i wouldnt describe this as immense. Also moores scoring record, how many of those caps has he played 90 minutes - about 5%. What was diouf record at Liverpool. 3 goals in 45 appearences. It isnt necessarily all about finding a replacement for Anelkas goals, if there was another available 20 goal a season man, than Chelsea would have signed him. We need to add what we dont have - PACE. He may only score 5 goals but could be involved in 15.
ad_bwfc, Essex says...
12:08pm Wed 23 Jan 08
Aidan wrote:kevin davies 153 (33)
Kevin was immense for Saints. He was good first time round, then failed miserably at Blackburn and was left out of a squad of 16 for the cup final, going with Crouch, beatie and omerod. He was released by strachan for free, i wouldnt describe this as immense. Also moores scoring record, how many of those caps has he played 90 minutes - about 5%. What was diouf record at Liverpool. 3 goals in 45 appearences. It isnt necessarily all about finding a replacement for Anelkas goals, if there was another available 20 goal a season man, than Chelsea would have signed him. We need to add what we dont have - PACE. He may only score 5 goals but could be involved in 15.
ad_bwfc, Essex says...
12:09pm Wed 23 Jan 08
Aidan wrote:kevin davies 153 (33)
Kevin was immense for Saints. He was good first time round, then failed miserably at Blackburn and was left out of a squad of 16 for the cup final, going with Crouch, beatie and omerod. He was released by strachan for free, i wouldnt describe this as immense. Also moores scoring record, how many of those caps has he played 90 minutes - about 5%. What was diouf record at Liverpool. 3 goals in 45 appearences. It isnt necessarily all about finding a replacement for Anelkas goals, if there was another available 20 goal a season man, than Chelsea would have signed him. We need to add what we dont have - PACE. He may only score 5 goals but could be involved in 15.
ad_bwfc, Essex says...
12:11pm Wed 23 Jan 08
Aidan wrote:luke moore isnt good enough because he has scored 14 goals in 84 games. that is one goal in every 6 games. yeh thats really what we need??! thats two possibly three goals for the rest of the season. yeh he's got quick legs but clearly no feet at the end of them!
Why isnt Moore good enough. Do you think we have anyone at the club who is better in that position. Davies, Vaz Te, Helgusson adn Harsanyi. Are these quicker, will these worry defenses, will they get behind the opposition. No, we need two forwards but one has to have pace. There arent many available as quick as him for that price. He isnt poor, Villa have two very good strikers ahead of him, an even faster one and a big man, we have the big man, it makes perfgect sense to get him in now. If we go for a foreigner we will have to wait 2-3 months for them to settle, we dont have the time to waste.
formula, Bournemouth says...
12:13pm Wed 23 Jan 08
Jon W, westhoughton says...
12:24pm Wed 23 Jan 08
Aidan wrote:I agree we need pace, but whether Megson would want to use it is another matter. He prefers Davies, Nolan, Campo, O'Brien & McCann over Stelios, Wilhemson, Andranik & Bratten. I am more concerned with how our manager wants to play the game than who he signs in the transfer window. I would settle for keeping the current squad if I could pick the team instead of him! (And by the way I'm not suggesting all those slow players shouldnt be in the team, or that all the fast players should be, but a mix and match may just help us launch an attack or 2).
Kevin was immense for Saints. He was good first time round, then failed miserably at Blackburn and was left out of a squad of 16 for the cup final, going with Crouch, beatie and omerod. He was released by strachan for free, i wouldnt describe this as immense. Also moores scoring record, how many of those caps has he played 90 minutes - about 5%. What was diouf record at Liverpool. 3 goals in 45 appearences. It isnt necessarily all about finding a replacement for Anelkas goals, if there was another available 20 goal a season man, than Chelsea would have signed him. We need to add what we dont have - PACE. He may only score 5 goals but could be involved in 15.
BWFC - TIL - I - DIE, BOLTON says...
12:38pm Wed 23 Jan 08
BWFC - TIL - I - DIE, BOLTON says...
1:08pm Wed 23 Jan 08
Gloucster White, Gloucester says...
1:10pm Wed 23 Jan 08
Brownie, Bolton says...
1:10pm Wed 23 Jan 08
breezeblock, Manchester says...
1:14pm Wed 23 Jan 08
BWFC - TIL - I - DIE, BOLTON says...
1:16pm Wed 23 Jan 08
Gloucster White wrote:read my link above, we are trying to sign a striker from st ettienne
Ok maybe this is me being thick so can someone help me sort this out. We have Kevin Davies who is the only fit striker at the moment, going to be at least another month before the other two are match fit, Diouf will be back in about a month unless he gets injured. So heres my problem why the flip is Megson looking at defenders or defence midfielders and not bidding for attacking players, Baros is available on loan so are a bunch of others but i have read no reports of us being link with any forward thinking players, is it because we are a backward thinking club. Please help my head hurts
Martin Duggan, says...
1:24pm Wed 23 Jan 08
Lord Lucan, Somewhere says...
1:24pm Wed 23 Jan 08
birch, chorley says...
1:39pm Wed 23 Jan 08
BWFC - TIL - I - DIE wrote:if that is the same plyer i am thinking, played wearing number 2 for guniee against ghana(number 2 even though he was an attacking midfielder/attacker) he looked usefull, created all of the chances for a poor team!
Bolton are being linked with a £3million swoop for St Etienne striker Pascal Feindouno as a replacement for Nicolas Anelka Trotters boss Gary Megson has the £15million raised from the sale of Anelka to Chelsea burning a hole in his pocket and it seems as though some of it could go on African ace Feindouno. The 26-year-old is currently with Guinea at the African Nations Cup in Ghana and according to reports Megson has sent an agent and chief scout Colin Harvey over to Africa to wrap up a deal. Megson is still waiting to hear whether he has been successful with the two offers that have gone in for unnamed Premiership players, but is casting his net far and wide in the meantime
Brownie, Bolton says...
1:47pm Wed 23 Jan 08
Martin Duggan, says...
1:59pm Wed 23 Jan 08
billyblackpool, blackpool says...
2:03pm Wed 23 Jan 08
wrothy, westhoughton says...
2:05pm Wed 23 Jan 08
dirty northern, says...
2:20pm Wed 23 Jan 08
MarkHatton88 wrote:Why am I a moron? Not enough said? If you cant answer my points then dont leave a comment. Why have you only started supporting Bolton for the last ten years?
dirty northern wrote:u moron! enough saidDarron Eaton wrote: A striker and a centre back must come in in the next week or we are relegated it's a s simple as that. I will maintain that we did not need to sell Anelka now and the difficluty in getting in overpriced replacements is only convincing me more. How a club can leave itself in this position I don't know (only 1 striker and 1 proper centreback). Not the behaviour of a professional outfit. The stupidity of it is astounding. Once again, a striker & centre back in the next 8 days or we're relegated no question. Pull your finger out Gartside (the chairman who is the perfect embodyment of the businessmen chairman who makes stupid decisions because he has no real football knowledge - his epitaph may well read Appointed Lee, sold Anelka, got the boot after relegation)."the chairman who is the perfect embodyment of the businessmen chairman who makes stupid decisions because he has no real football knowledge - his epitaph may well read Appointed Lee, sold Anelka, got the boot after relegation" Or perhaps it could read, "saved club from administration, apointed Allardyce, got us promoted, stayed up, qualified for europe, signed Jay Jay/Hiero/Djorkaef ect, qualified for europe, signed Anelka, presided over the most succesful period in the clubs history since the 50's...and so on" "pull your finger out gartside" - do you even realise he doesnt own the club?? How do you know it isnt Davies who has stopped the spending or perhaps its Megson who hasnt been able to find what he wants?? Why attack gartside?? PLEASE ALL NOTE - 1) The transfer window isnt over as yet. 2) we have just signed our two most expensive defenders ever 3) We dont have a fixture until tuesday next week i.e. no rush 4) just because the team is in spain doesnt mean Megson is there or is stuck there - it takes a few hours to fly back. People on here are never happy. Cheer up!
gazz_ball - Supera Moras!, bolton says...
2:32pm Wed 23 Jan 08
MarkHatton88, Brighton says...
2:34pm Wed 23 Jan 08
Andy W, says...
2:50pm Wed 23 Jan 08
MarkHatton88 wrote:
because gartside is an idiot! how can you even begin to defend him! because im 19...only been a footy fan since 9 lol.
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fantastic, daubhill bolton says...
2:59pm Wed 23 Jan 08
Trotter, Bolton says...
3:00pm Wed 23 Jan 08
Martin Duggan, says...
3:05pm Wed 23 Jan 08
Trotter wrote:Deliver what???? How will it be his fault if we cant sign the people that Megson wants. If they wont come, they wont come. As I have metioned above, I'm sure people do not realise the cost of the playing staff in wages and fees . If for example we signed a player for 10 mill and put him on a 4 year contract for 60K per week that would cost us a total of 22.5mill (inc transfer fee) for the whole package and thats just one player!!!
Not much fun sat here with my finger hovering over the "PANIC BUTTON" ready to blast Gartside with both barrels, this transfer window like it or not is one of the most important to BWFC than any other transfer window, the fact that us supporters are still smarting from the comment from Gartside that we have a contingency plan for every single position, still gets up my back, this business man who knows nothing about football but only the accountant books needs a rocket up his back-side because if he fails to deliver this time, he and his account books will be heading out of the club for good, maybe it will be at the end of the season but will no doubt be OUT. Keep the faith
smithy, st helens says...
3:06pm Wed 23 Jan 08
Trotter, Bolton says...
3:09pm Wed 23 Jan 08
Trotter, Bolton says...
3:22pm Wed 23 Jan 08
Martin Duggan wrote:Martin, you are answering your own questions here, what I mean by Gartside delivering is only what Gartside has said he will do, which so far is all lies (bad track record as well), as supporters we are yet again being led down the merry path.
Trotter wrote: Not much fun sat here with my finger hovering over the "PANIC BUTTON" ready to blast Gartside with both barrels, this transfer window like it or not is one of the most important to BWFC than any other transfer window, the fact that us supporters are still smarting from the comment from Gartside that we have a contingency plan for every single position, still gets up my back, this business man who knows nothing about football but only the accountant books needs a rocket up his back-side because if he fails to deliver this time, he and his account books will be heading out of the club for good, maybe it will be at the end of the season but will no doubt be OUT. Keep the faithDeliver what???? How will it be his fault if we cant sign the people that Megson wants. If they wont come, they wont come. As I have metioned above, I'm sure people do not realise the cost of the playing staff in wages and fees . If for example we signed a player for 10 mill and put him on a 4 year contract for 60K per week that would cost us a total of 22.5mill (inc transfer fee) for the whole package and thats just one player!!! 22.5Million Pounds for ONE player. Theres not many teams can afford that. We will therefore be looking at the lower end of the market like most other prem clubs, barring the usual suspects that is.
MarkHatton88, Brighton says...
3:28pm Wed 23 Jan 08
Andy W wrote:So im an idiot with a chavs understanding of business...lol you do make me laugh, your comments become more bizzare by the minute, im actually a law student at one of the uk's top uni's,dont find many idiots doing that to be honest. Secondly my knowlegde of gartside is based upon the great majority of bolton fans, hes sent this club down the gutter and thats not just my opinion. Might be a good chairmen in the past fair play..but look at the club recently. I wouldnt put it past u being a junkie or just a chav yourself who has to stay on a football forum day in day out of his life because his own life is so miserable..get a life son
MarkHatton88 wrote:
because gartside is an idiot! how can you even begin to defend him! because im 19...only been a footy fan since 9 lol.quote
You are an idiot with a chav's understanding of business. Gartside is simply one of the best chairmen in the country. What he has done with the club in really difficult circumstances is amazing. If you can't see that...well...what is there to say?
Trotter, Bolton says...
3:29pm Wed 23 Jan 08
Deano, Bolton says...
3:39pm Wed 23 Jan 08
smithy, st helens says...
3:39pm Wed 23 Jan 08
breezeblock, Manchester says...
3:43pm Wed 23 Jan 08
Trotter, Bolton says...
3:52pm Wed 23 Jan 08
breezeblock wrote:So all accountants tell lies do they???????
Hilarious, a 19 year old law student who thinks he has a good understanding of business. I think the first rule of studying is to perhaps remember your subject. Now if you said it was a degree in economics then maybe you could be taken seriously but the truth is the vast majority on here who question Gartside's financial ability could simply not interpret a set of company accounts...even if an accountant sat next to them and help them. And explained some of the long words. And skipped the tricky bits. Conversely those who don't question Garstide's financial ability appear to have some business nouse themselves. I can't explain that...but it seems to be the truth.
breezeblock, Manchester says...
3:53pm Wed 23 Jan 08
dirty northern, says...
4:00pm Wed 23 Jan 08
MarkHatton88 wrote:Seeing as how this started with a post of mine in which I defended gartside, I might as well tell you I have a degree in business & economics, an MSc in Financial Management and I work as a commercial manager for a multi national firm. Stop talking so much rubbish. Learn some manners, some knowledge of football and an understanding of business and me and a few others might take you more seriously.
Andy W wrote:So im an idiot with a chavs understanding of business...lol you do make me laugh, your comments become more bizzare by the minute, im actually a law student at one of the uk's top uni's,dont find many idiots doing that to be honest. Secondly my knowlegde of gartside is based upon the great majority of bolton fans, hes sent this club down the gutter and thats not just my opinion. Might be a good chairmen in the past fair play..but look at the club recently. I wouldnt put it past u being a junkie or just a chav yourself who has to stay on a football forum day in day out of his life because his own life is so miserable..get a life sonMarkHatton88 wrote: because gartside is an idiot! how can you even begin to defend him! because im 19...only been a footy fan since 9 lol.quoteYou are an idiot with a chav's understanding of business. Gartside is simply one of the best chairmen in the country. What he has done with the club in really difficult circumstances is amazing. If you can't see that...well...what is there to say?
ad_bwfc, Essex says...
4:01pm Wed 23 Jan 08
Trotter wrote:great shout! been saying him for aaaages!
Arsenal striker Niklas Bendter was apparently left with a cut nose following an altercation with team-mate Emmanuel Adebayor during last night's 5-1 defeat to Tottenham. (Various) Get this lad signed up, clearly not happy at the Gunners after watching him last night, not on a big wage either which will suit Gartside.
smithy, st helens says...
4:03pm Wed 23 Jan 08
MarkHatton88, Brighton says...
4:07pm Wed 23 Jan 08
paul, chester says...
4:20pm Wed 23 Jan 08
gazz_ball - Supera Moras!, bolton says...
4:26pm Wed 23 Jan 08
breezeblock wrote:Don't say nothing about him myself. Don't know where to sit, know nothing factual that would say he's running the club into the ground so don't make comment.
Hilarious, a 19 year old law student who thinks he has a good understanding of business. I think the first rule of studying is to perhaps remember your subject. Now if you said it was a degree in economics then maybe you could be taken seriously but the truth is the vast majority on here who question Gartside's financial ability could simply not interpret a set of company accounts...even if an accountant sat next to them and help them. And explained some of the long words. And skipped the tricky bits. Conversely those who don't question Garstide's financial ability appear to have some business nouse themselves. I can't explain that...but it seems to be the truth.
breezeblock, Manchester says...
4:39pm Wed 23 Jan 08
ad_bwfc, Essex says...
5:01pm Wed 23 Jan 08
paul, chester says...
5:03pm Wed 23 Jan 08
birch, chorley says...
5:58pm Wed 23 Jan 08
breezeblock wrote:please explain this to me then, why does gartside sign off the refreshment counters to de veres???
Hilarious, a 19 year old law student who thinks he has a good understanding of business. I think the first rule of studying is to perhaps remember your subject. Now if you said it was a degree in economics then maybe you could be taken seriously but the truth is the vast majority on here who question Gartside's financial ability could simply not interpret a set of company accounts...even if an accountant sat next to them and help them. And explained some of the long words. And skipped the tricky bits. Conversely those who don't question Garstide's financial ability appear to have some business nouse themselves. I can't explain that...but it seems to be the truth.
Smiff, Oxford says...
6:06pm Wed 23 Jan 08
Jacko, Little Lever says...
6:21pm Wed 23 Jan 08
Smiff, Oxford says...
6:26pm Wed 23 Jan 08
Jacko wrote:I do go myself, I've got a season ticket and haven't missed a league match this year. Didn't miss one last year either. Address the facts pal.
Isnt it easy to criticise when you live down south & dont go yourself?,& town do you mean Horwich or Bolton!!!.
Jacko, Little Lever says...
6:30pm Wed 23 Jan 08
Smiff, Oxford says...
6:35pm Wed 23 Jan 08
Jacko wrote:I was also one of the 2,902 on Nov 5, 1985, lowest ever BWFC league gate. Bolton 0 Darlington 3. When you've witnessed cr*p like that you have a sense of perspective about our current predicament.
I think you deserve a medal then for that!!!.
rob, horwich says...
6:57pm Wed 23 Jan 08
Smiff, Oxford says...
7:01pm Wed 23 Jan 08
rob wrote:... we badly need another centre back. Take O'Brien out of our defence and we have serious problems. Meite is an absolute joke. A striker is number one priority but a centre back is only marginally less of a 'must-buy'.
Bolton are one of the other teams as well as sunderland who are trying to land marlon king from watford for 5.5 mln, what do we all think, would he be a good signing ?? forget about mellberg, he's to old and as for gary cahill, he's young - english and quite a good defender from what i've seen of him, so yes he would be a good risk if we took him on loan and we buy 2 strikers instead ie, marlon king and jason roberts - offer 4.5 for each !!
Jacko, Little Lever says...
7:07pm Wed 23 Jan 08
ad_bwfc, Essex says...
7:19pm Wed 23 Jan 08
Smiff, Oxford says...
7:21pm Wed 23 Jan 08
Jacko wrote:Brown would be awesome - but I can't see it. Apart from Cahill I can't really pick out any central defenders at other Prem clubs who are on the fringes but good enough to come in and be a front line player for us. I think we need to be looking abroad - Van Buyten (Bayern), Olsson (NEC Nijmegen), Rodriguez (Braga) were all tenuously linked earlier in the window. Meite needs to go the same way as Cid - now!
I dont rate Meite his positional play is awful,Wes Brown for me!!.8 days 4 hrs & 53 mins left of the transfer window get a move on!!.
smithy, st helens says...
7:23pm Wed 23 Jan 08
Jacko, Little Lever says...
7:25pm Wed 23 Jan 08
Jacko, Little Lever says...
7:28pm Wed 23 Jan 08
Smiff, Oxford says...
7:34pm Wed 23 Jan 08
Jacko wrote:.. I suspect it's because they can't get rid of him. He's on £6k a week. Can't remember where I read that but I did!
I asked last week & i ask again, what is the point of Ian Walker at the club on a good wage?.
ad_bwfc, Essex says...
7:36pm Wed 23 Jan 08
Rob, Worsley says...
8:18pm Wed 23 Jan 08
BWFC - TIL - I - DIE, BOLTON says...
8:28pm Wed 23 Jan 08
hierro, Bolton says...
8:39pm Wed 23 Jan 08
BWFC - TIL - I - DIE, BOLTON says...
8:43pm Wed 23 Jan 08
hierro wrote:he's not bad sometimes but he does seriously make some titus bramble type errors sometimes...
Am i the only wanderers fan who thinks that Meite isn't that bad - he does remind me of Chris Fairclough a bit though when he has time on the ball !!
breezeblock, Manchester says...
8:44pm Wed 23 Jan 08
please explain this to me then, why does gartside sign off the refreshment counters to de veres???
Smiff, Oxford says...
8:49pm Wed 23 Jan 08
hierro wrote:I suppose we all view it through different eyes but to me Meite is utterly clueless. He makes absolutely basic errors and lacks all of the attributes required in his (crucial) position. He can't read the game, he is mediocre in the air, he has little pace, he is clumsy in the challenge and is prone to switching off. You can have the best strikers in the world but if you've got a liability at centre back it counts for little. Sorry - I sound like Alan Hansen!
Am i the only wanderers fan who thinks that Meite isn't that bad - he does remind me of Chris Fairclough a bit though when he has time on the ball !!
Aidan, sheffield says...
8:52pm Wed 23 Jan 08
Gareth B, Chorley says...
9:58pm Wed 23 Jan 08
rob, horwich says...
10:07pm Wed 23 Jan 08
voice of doom, somewhere in darkest england says...
10:39pm Wed 23 Jan 08
ad_bwfc, Essex says...
10:54pm Wed 23 Jan 08
fernando, bolton says...
11:29pm Wed 23 Jan 08
fernando, bolton says...
11:44pm Wed 23 Jan 08
rob, horwich says...
11:49pm Wed 23 Jan 08
fernando wrote:I heard the same thing fernando about darren bent, but that was last friday and it gone abit quite mate, so if your friend has good hearing then he cannot be far from the truth mate, apart from the price - 11 mln was the price and if we have put a bid in, no body else around us would entertain him because he is to expensive for them, ie - wigan, sunderland, fulham, birmingham and middle of the boat boro !!, so if we have put a bid in then it's up to him if he wants to come up here isn't it really, only 7 days to go !!
Just had a call from a friend of mine who is a catering manager in london. He did a buffet at white hart lane last night and overheard a conversation about wanderers putting an offer in for Darren Bent. He did not know who they were or how much the offer was for, so it may just be a couple of punters having a chat about a rumour. I would prefer Bent to Marlon King, at least Bent has scored a decent amount in the prem. I know hes not worth 16 mill, but a deal around 6 million would be worth it. Its probably just pie in the sky, but I'm starting to worry we are going to finish up with a 2nd string striker from an average prem club or an overated striker from the fizzy league.
trottersforever, bolton says...
12:18am Thu 24 Jan 08
smithy wrote:I used to have Aouate in my Spanish Fantasy Football team and he was very hot and cold, one week he'd make lots of saves and gain lots of points, the next he'd let in several goals and end up with a minus score.
sky sports Jussi Jaaskelainen has yet to commit to Bolton so Gary Megson will look to bring in another goalkeeper, possibly Dudu Aouate of Deportivo La Coruna. The Bolton boss is unlikely to do much more business and his main priority will be ensuring no more of his top players leave The Reebok Stadium.
rob, horwich says...
6:57am Thu 24 Jan 08
trottersforever wrote:GOOD POINT BUDDY ..
smithy wrote: sky sports Jussi Jaaskelainen has yet to commit to Bolton so Gary Megson will look to bring in another goalkeeper, possibly Dudu Aouate of Deportivo La Coruna. The Bolton boss is unlikely to do much more business and his main priority will be ensuring no more of his top players leave The Reebok Stadium.I used to have Aouate in my Spanish Fantasy Football team and he was very hot and cold, one week he'd make lots of saves and gain lots of points, the next he'd let in several goals and end up with a minus score. Why do we need to bring in another GK when we have Al Habsi sitting on the bench week in week out?? We don't need to be spending money on a GK when we are desperate for a striker !!
Chris Manning, Gotham City PD, says...
8:55am Thu 24 Jan 08
hierro wrote:yes, you are the only one.
Am i the only wanderers fan who thinks that Meite isn't that bad - he does remind me of Chris Fairclough a bit though when he has time on the ball !!
birch, chorley says...
9:15am Thu 24 Jan 08
breezeblock wrote:out sources. rents out!
Brownie, so if the BWSA had more members what would change? Let's say the membership went to 3,000...would it still just be a glorified social club?please explain this to me then, why does gartside sign off the refreshment counters to de veres???Birch, what do you mean by signing off?
breezeblock, Manchester says...
9:22am Thu 24 Jan 08
birch, chorley says...
11:59am Thu 24 Jan 08
breezeblock wrote:De veres don't make pies! we are averaging 20,000 fans through the door, on average probably spend £5 whilst inside the stadium. All de veres do is get contracted labour staff from an agency and pre preppared products from greenalghs/fosters. they must be making a healthy profit or they wouldnt bother doing it. seen as we need all the money we can get surly this is a vital resource that we should be tapping into.
It's a standard agreement at most new stadia that the catering in the concourses is sub-contract by way of open tender. Basically it's not worth the hassle to do it themselves so it makes sense to take a fee instead. Is that such a big deal? Bolton are a football club after all - not a pie making firm. Bolton also has grounds maintenance contracts all around the stadium - are you saying we should buy a load of lawnmowers, spades and rakes and do it ourselves? It's just common practice. It's really no big deal.
breezeblock, Manchester says...
12:30pm Thu 24 Jan 08
birch, chorley says...
1:09pm Thu 24 Jan 08
breezeblock wrote:dont throw your toys out of the pram, i just dont see why it is that we do this!
Yes, of course...you're right. You're obviously a businessman. By the way, Arsenal sub-contract their refreshment kiosks.
breezeblock, Manchester says...
1:25pm Thu 24 Jan 08
birch, chorley says...
1:48pm Thu 24 Jan 08
breezeblock, Manchester says...
1:56pm Thu 24 Jan 08
paul, chester says...
2:17pm Thu 24 Jan 08
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boltonwan, JHB says...
6:22am Wed 23 Jan 08
Come on Bolton, before it's too late, lets get what we need to finish the season in the Prem without a nailbite finish (or worse).