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tobyclinton wrote:
amosc99- Sorry to be the one to bad mouth Big Sam but only two flops? I can tell diawara (on loan from torino and sent back thanks to his drinking antic) Javi Moreno, Nishiwara, julio cesar and countless more were indeed flops! Ok he signed some amazing players but from what I can remember it was often a case of one good one shocker. That is still a good record but from the looks of the Ginger one (although jury still out) Steinasson looks v.good, matt taylor good player for our team and cohen, well I just hope he doesn't play ahead of Andranik much more!By the way does anyone know why he's not playing I personally thought he was a player of real quality or potential of being that.

tobyclinton wrote:
amosc99- Sorry to be the one to bad mouth Big Sam but only two flops? I can tell diawara (on loan from torino and sent back thanks to his drinking antic) Javi Moreno, Nishiwara, julio cesar and countless more were indeed flops! Ok he signed some amazing players but from what I can remember it was often a case of one good one shocker. That is still a good record but from the looks of the Ginger one (although jury still out) Steinasson looks v.good, matt taylor good player for our team and cohen, well I just hope he doesn't play ahead of Andranik much more!By the way does anyone know why he's not playing I personally thought he was a player of real quality or potential of being that.

Andy W wrote:
How can anyone say that Helgusson isn't up to it? The lad's been injured.

MickaWanderer wrote:
For goodness sake do Gartside a favour and get off his back! Despite what turncoat Allardyce did for us we wouldnt have had the fun we have enjoyed this last 10 years without Gartside so give him a break. Its not his fault that proven decent strikers wont come to BWFC; its obviously because we (rightly) wont pay silly wages and/or because we are not doing too well in the prem. He didnt waste the money on all the dross at the club; it was Allardyce and Lee. Now lay off him for a while; hes done us proud before and he'll do his best to do so again. If we drive him out the club will suffer - big time.

if Allardyce was applying now he wouldn't get the job

Andy W wrote:
How can anyone say that Helgusson isn't up to it? The lad's been injured.

SUPERWHITEINEXILE wrote:

MickaWanderer wrote:
For goodness sake do Gartside a favour and get off his back! Despite what turncoat Allardyce did for us we wouldnt have had the fun we have enjoyed this last 10 years without Gartside so give him a break. Its not his fault that proven decent strikers wont come to BWFC; its obviously because we (rightly) wont pay silly wages and/or because we are not doing too well in the prem. He didnt waste the money on all the dross at the club; it was Allardyce and Lee. Now lay off him for a while; hes done us proud before and he'll do his best to do so again. If we drive him out the club will suffer - big time.

Get real. Allardyce probably left because he was told to sell before he could buy. IMO, Megson was given the same message. If you think that this is the best way to build a team, think again. I don't think we will find a decent striker and we definitely can not replace Anelka, for one, who will come to Bolton and two, we don't have enough money in the kitty because even if we do spend the whole £15 million from the sale of Anelka, we won't be spending any more and as we have already spent about half the cash, well you see where I'm coming from.

Gartside should disapear quickly, he has made the club a laughing stock over the last few months. idiots like you must be family.

I personally believe that survival will depend on us defending properly and we will create goals from midfield.

Brak wrote:

I personally believe that survival will depend on us defending properly and we will create goals from midfield.

Survival seems to be the last thing on Gartside's mind!!
Hey let's all big up Gorgon Hargreaves whilst we're at it!! FFS!

gordon lythgoe wrote:
We are down and out if we dont get a striker this week. For all the effort Kevin Davies puts in ,he is not a goal scorer.He drifts over the to the right to create a bit of space for himself because he has'nt got the pace or skill to play down the middle. I hate to say but..he couldnt trap a mattress.

Are you completely brain dead? Survival is probably more important to Gartside than anyone!

Deano wrote:
Every time i see the slide at the top of the screen i can't help notice a small crusty bit on the side of Gordon Browns face! anyone got an idea to what it is !!!

amosc99 wrote:
Allardyce was NOT a turncoat. He left the club due to a fall-out with Gartslime which led to Gartslime NOT giving Sam money to help strengthen the team last January - although there was at least 6 million ready to be used!!!!! Even when Allardyce left the club, he did the best thing and kept quiet about the spat with Gartside, but what did Gartside do!!!! Again it was Gartslime !

Who built the team in the last ten years with little money, who got the team into Europe twice and reach the dizzy heights of the Premiership - not Gartside as he was always tight with the purse-strings but it was Allardyce with his shrewd managment skills.

Gartside only has done ONE good thing for Bolton and that was bring Allardyce - although he was cheap at the time, coming from an old DIvision 3 (new money League 2) club!!!!


Don't forget that over Sam's term he only had 2 flop players - everyone else he brought he worked well and did actually play in the team - LSL well that is another matter and that's what has put us in this poistion (now who appointed LSL again??????). The managers suggested the players to Gartside who then joined in the talks for transfers - who gave the money for the players - GARTSIDE

Who lied to the fans about trying to sell Jay-jay, only to be discovered as a liar on the Panorama programme. Who has NEVER been investigated into bung deals in the transfer market (whilst Allardyce was and he was cleared). Who does the majority of negotiating with agents??? ALL POINTS TO GARTSIDE!!!

This club is far bigger than Gartslime and we will survive his loss, and actually might start improving again.

Gartside has to go for the sake of the club, team and brand!

Gartside has been in talks with Chelsea for well over 2 months - thats long enough to realise that Anelkk was going to go and that the scouts should have been instructed to look for a replacement. Again that is down to GARTSIDE

breezeblock wrote:
Amosc, precisely what would you like Gartside to do better (assuming he will never leave the club)?

Rocky wrote:

amosc99 wrote: Allardyce was NOT a turncoat. He left the club due to a fall-out with Gartslime which led to Gartslime NOT giving Sam money to help strengthen the team last January - although there was at least 6 million ready to be used!!!!! Even when Allardyce left the club, he did the best thing and kept quiet about the spat with Gartside, but what did Gartside do!!!! Again it was Gartslime ! Who built the team in the last ten years with little money, who got the team into Europe twice and reach the dizzy heights of the Premiership - not Gartside as he was always tight with the purse-strings but it was Allardyce with his shrewd managment skills. Gartside only has done ONE good thing for Bolton and that was bring Allardyce - although he was cheap at the time, coming from an old DIvision 3 (new money League 2) club!!!! Don't forget that over Sam's term he only had 2 flop players - everyone else he brought he worked well and did actually play in the team - LSL well that is another matter and that's what has put us in this poistion (now who appointed LSL again??????). The managers suggested the players to Gartside who then joined in the talks for transfers - who gave the money for the players - GARTSIDE Who lied to the fans about trying to sell Jay-jay, only to be discovered as a liar on the Panorama programme. Who has NEVER been investigated into bung deals in the transfer market (whilst Allardyce was and he was cleared). Who does the majority of negotiating with agents??? ALL POINTS TO GARTSIDE!!! This club is far bigger than Gartslime and we will survive his loss, and actually might start improving again. Gartside has to go for the sake of the club, team and brand! Gartside has been in talks with Chelsea for well over 2 months - thats long enough to realise that Anelkk was going to go and that the scouts should have been instructed to look for a replacement. Again that is down to GARTSIDE

Yeah and you believe the European Union is a utopian dream.. Sorry If I don't take anything you say seriously.

thewanderer1958 wrote:
What is all this "brand" b*llocks?? I gotta say amosc99 you do talk some tripe fella! Your last post being a top example.

BWFC - TIL - I - DIE wrote:
Bolton linked with sensational Adriano move tribalfooball.com - January 24, 2008 Bolton Wanderers are being linked with a sensational move for Inter Milan striker Adriano. The Telegraph says Trotters boss Gary Megson is rumoured to be interested in signing Inter Milan's Adriano in the summer, as a replacement for Nicolas Anelka. The Brazilian striker is currently on loan at Sao Paulo.

Andy L wrote:
Unless I've missed it, we have managed to get this far down the running Allardyce flop thread without noble mention of Jardel!At this time of striker quest maybe he could be a caution.

I'd add Borgetti to this except I don't think he did flop. I never understood why he was not given more time on the field.

In all other respects I am impressed by the collective memory of flops: Diawara was a good call. Matt Jansen and David Thompson were not raging successes either. Not sure about Stig Tofting? Also not convinced about Julius Caesar's implied coaching role. venit, vidit, non vicit.

Jirvine wrote:
Why are we being linked with Pascal Feindouno if you look at wikipedia his goal scoring record is awful and he isnt a striker but an attacking midfielder. Also if we spend 5 mil on Gary Cahill thats going to leave nothing in the striker kitty. We are down if we cant get a decent striker, we should look to bring in a proven striker and try for bentdner on loan after his his own teamate nutted him. Please sort the striker crisis before next week!

whatsgoingon wrote:
Arsenal seek takers for Walcott tribalfooball.com - January 23, 2008 Arsenal are set to make Theo Walcott available on-loan. The Daily Mail says a number of Barclays Premier League clubs were contacted yesterday about the prospect of taking the 18-year-old until the end of the season. Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger claimed his side's Carling Cup defeat had shown him 'who was not ready for the first team' and Walcott could be one of the casualties before the transfer window closes. Although Wenger maintains that Walcott, who cost £13million as a 16-year-old, can still develop into a top-class striker, his patience snapped after he failed to make an impression in the semi-final second leg at White Hart Lane. i hope Megsons sat on the Emirates doorstep this morning waiting for Wenger to get in, maybe we could solve his Bendtner problem too and take him off their hands.

Brak wrote:
As for getting someone at African Nations - can we really wait that long and surely they'll be knackered for a few weeks when they get back.

BWFC - TIL - I - DIE wrote:

BWFC - TIL - I - DIE wrote: Bolton linked with sensational Adriano move tribalfooball.com - January 24, 2008 Bolton Wanderers are being linked with a sensational move for Inter Milan striker Adriano. The Telegraph says Trotters boss Gary Megson is rumoured to be interested in signing Inter Milan's Adriano in the summer, as a replacement for Nicolas Anelka. The Brazilian striker is currently on loan at Sao Paulo.

anyone any thoughts on this

BWFC - TIL - I - DIE wrote:

Andy W wrote: How can anyone say that Helgusson isn't up to it? The lad's been injured.

he's not exactly a renowned 20 a season world beater though andy...

ChrisD wrote:

SUPERWHITEINEXILE wrote:

MickaWanderer wrote: For goodness sake do Gartside a favour and get off his back! Despite what turncoat Allardyce did for us we wouldnt have had the fun we have enjoyed this last 10 years without Gartside so give him a break. Its not his fault that proven decent strikers wont come to BWFC; its obviously because we (rightly) wont pay silly wages and/or because we are not doing too well in the prem. He didnt waste the money on all the dross at the club; it was Allardyce and Lee. Now lay off him for a while; hes done us proud before and he'll do his best to do so again. If we drive him out the club will suffer - big time.

Get real. Allardyce probably left because he was told to sell before he could buy. IMO, Megson was given the same message. If you think that this is the best way to build a team, think again. I don't think we will find a decent striker and we definitely can not replace Anelka, for one, who will come to Bolton and two, we don't have enough money in the kitty because even if we do spend the whole £15 million from the sale of Anelka, we won't be spending any more and as we have already spent about half the cash, well you see where I'm coming from. Gartside should disapear quickly, he has made the club a laughing stock over the last few months. idiots like you must be family.

You Gartside bashers are pathetic. Maybe the reason that has been tight on the purse strings is because there is a lack of money to spend. Do you think the £8m for Anelka + a substantial amount in wages was loose change we had spare? Lots of managers are told to sell before they can buy, even if that was the case (which you have no clue), if the finances dictate thats what must happen then so be it. The thing is your talking a load of tripe, your speculating that there is a lack of money to spend, they have made it clear that they have money to spend on the right player(s). You lot wouldn't be happy if we signed Ronaldinho, but he like most other decent players doesn't want to come here. Anelka wanted to leave, there was no point in holding him back as it would have shown in his performances and attitude. At least they got a decent fee for him. We wont get a player as good as Anelka, how many players are there that are of his ability that are in our price range and would want to come here? I personally believe that survival will depend on us defending properly and we will create goals from midfield. Plus the window is still open and who knows what will happen.

"He's fat and lazy" are my 2 main thoughts. We should at least ask about Walcott but can't see Wenger lending him to "over-physical" Bolton! Get a bid in for Baros...pace and goals.

birch wrote:

Andy W wrote: How can anyone say that Helgusson isn't up to it? The lad's been injured.

because fulham sold him, he couldnt get in thier team because he is garbage, they where looking to sell him and their was only us and watford in for him! if he was any good their would have been 5/6 prem teams in for himat that price!

breezeblock wrote:
Amosc, Half of that list is merely your personal hatred towards Gartside rather than concrete reasons for complaint. The wages list is a total. And so it should be. I run a company and my accounts don't have a breakdown of wages...because they don't have to. Are you really suggesting Gartside should do what no other firm in the country does just because you want a shufty at what folk are on? What does it matter?

ChrisD wrote:

SUPERWHITEINEXILE wrote:

MickaWanderer wrote: For goodness sake do Gartside a favour and get off his back! Despite what turncoat Allardyce did for us we wouldnt have had the fun we have enjoyed this last 10 years without Gartside so give him a break. Its not his fault that proven decent strikers wont come to BWFC; its obviously because we (rightly) wont pay silly wages and/or because we are not doing too well in the prem. He didnt waste the money on all the dross at the club; it was Allardyce and Lee. Now lay off him for a while; hes done us proud before and he'll do his best to do so again. If we drive him out the club will suffer - big time.

Get real. Allardyce probably left because he was told to sell before he could buy. IMO, Megson was given the same message. If you think that this is the best way to build a team, think again. I don't think we will find a decent striker and we definitely can not replace Anelka, for one, who will come to Bolton and two, we don't have enough money in the kitty because even if we do spend the whole £15 million from the sale of Anelka, we won't be spending any more and as we have already spent about half the cash, well you see where I'm coming from. Gartside should disapear quickly, he has made the club a laughing stock over the last few months. idiots like you must be family.

You Gartside bashers are pathetic. Maybe the reason that has been tight on the purse strings is because there is a lack of money to spend. Do you think the £8m for Anelka + a substantial amount in wages was loose change we had spare? Lots of managers are told to sell before they can buy, even if that was the case (which you have no clue), if the finances dictate thats what must happen then so be it. The thing is your talking a load of tripe, your speculating that there is a lack of money to spend, they have made it clear that they have money to spend on the right player(s). You lot wouldn't be happy if we signed Ronaldinho, but he like most other decent players doesn't want to come here. Anelka wanted to leave, there was no point in holding him back as it would have shown in his performances and attitude. At least they got a decent fee for him. We wont get a player as good as Anelka, how many players are there that are of his ability that are in our price range and would want to come here? I personally believe that survival will depend on us defending properly and we will create goals from midfield. Plus the window is still open and who knows what will happen.

Andy L wrote:
Unless I've missed it, we have managed to get this far down the running Allardyce flop thread without noble mention of Jardel!At this time of striker quest maybe he could be a caution. I'd add Borgetti to this except I don't think he did flop. I never understood why he was not given more time on the field. In all other respects I am impressed by the collective memory of flops: Diawara was a good call. Matt Jansen and David Thompson were not raging successes either. Not sure about Stig Tofting? Also not convinced about Julius Caesar's implied coaching role. venit, vidit, non vicit.

ad_bwfc wrote:
haha that is a joke, bentner would be the best thing that has happened to this club, quick strong, good in the air, good finisher and young. he has a off game against tottenham but they all did! i would run around bolton naked if we signed him tho, it would be brilliant

Filip Madzovski wrote:
Jon, Are you King Erica? I can’t believe Bendtner, Phil Nevilles, Wes Browns, Steve Sidwells, Bendtners, Walcott would not get in your team. Better than Meite, Whilhelmson, Braaten, Nolan. I would love to see Wes Brown next to O'Brian. Walcott on the wings swapping with Diouf, Bendtner and Davo up front Habsi Steinsson - RB Wes Brown - CB O'Brian - CB Gardner - LB WALCOTT - RM GUTHRIE – CM TAYLOR - CM DIOUF - LM DAVO BENDTNER SUBS - JUSSI, COHEN, DZEMAILI, STELIOS, HARSANYI

breezeblock wrote:
Amosc, I just did...the wages issue. Answer that one first.

Jon W wrote:

Filip Madzovski wrote: Jon, Are you King Erica? I can’t believe Bendtner, Phil Nevilles, Wes Browns, Steve Sidwells, Bendtners, Walcott would not get in your team. Better than Meite, Whilhelmson, Braaten, Nolan. I would love to see Wes Brown next to O'Brian. Walcott on the wings swapping with Diouf, Bendtner and Davo up front Habsi Steinsson - RB Wes Brown - CB O'Brian - CB Gardner - LB WALCOTT - RM GUTHRIE – CM TAYLOR - CM DIOUF - LM DAVO BENDTNER SUBS - JUSSI, COHEN, DZEMAILI, STELIOS, HARSANYI

Filip. Yes I'd have them over Meite, Wilhemson, Bratten & Nolan too - that's not the issue, the issue is can we sign better players at reasonable prices not are there players out there that are better than our reserves (Meite isnt a reserve but the other 3 either are or should be). Wes Brown is OK, but nothing better, just average, that's why Utd dont pick him unless they have to. Same as Sylvestre, Park, Fletcher etc, they're NOT above average, they just provide back up to the real team. Your team is not going to happen, because we know Nolan is 1st name on the teamsheet, along with Davies and Joey O'B. It doesnt matter who we sign, it isnt going to change under Megson unfortunately. Walcott has absolutely no end product, I really dont know what people see in him apart from being very very fast. Phil Neville is no better than Nicky Hunt, dont try to convince me otherwise. Sidwell is just an average Reading player, we could go for him but I'd rather have Koumas or Danny Murphy any day. I agree about Habsi, he looks better than Jussi to me.

gartsidegoes wrote:
I think Taylor will pay off as a very good signing.

8. Publicly acknowledge to the world (whether fans or not) what the state of the clubs accounts are like and go into some semi-details about it (i.e. wages - although as a total and NOT individually)

Fingers crossed! I dont want Darren Bent, he is really arrogant and will upset Diouffy no end.
Mate of mine has met him loads of times and says that he thinks he is David Beckham.

Jon W wrote:

Jirvine wrote: Why are we being linked with Pascal Feindouno if you look at wikipedia his goal scoring record is awful and he isnt a striker but an attacking midfielder. Also if we spend 5 mil on Gary Cahill thats going to leave nothing in the striker kitty. We are down if we cant get a decent striker, we should look to bring in a proven striker and try for bentdner on loan after his his own teamate nutted him. Please sort the striker crisis before next week!

We are being linked with loads of players, it doesnt mean we are going to sign them, what else are the papers going to report if they cant make up a bit of transfer gossip. Bentner is not upto it, have you watched any of Arsenal's games and the service he gets? Imagine him in our team, he wouldnt get a kick.

Jirvine wrote:

Jon W wrote:

Jirvine wrote: Why are we being linked with Pascal Feindouno if you look at wikipedia his goal scoring record is awful and he isnt a striker but an attacking midfielder. Also if we spend 5 mil on Gary Cahill thats going to leave nothing in the striker kitty. We are down if we cant get a decent striker, we should look to bring in a proven striker and try for bentdner on loan after his his own teamate nutted him. Please sort the striker crisis before next week!

We are being linked with loads of players, it doesnt mean we are going to sign them, what else are the papers going to report if they cant make up a bit of transfer gossip. Bentner is not upto it, have you watched any of Arsenal's games and the service he gets? Imagine him in our team, he wouldnt get a kick.

Jon W no offense but you dont know Shi*t. he has only really been played in the cup. When he was injury free at birmingham last season he was excellent. And a loan deal would be no risk. Do yourself a favour and get back in your pram adults are talking

ad_bwfc wrote:
my god will u lot shut up about accounts its so boring. if i wanted to learn about accounting i'd read the financial times. darren bent would be awesome, anyone know if its actually happening?

Martin Duggan wrote:

Jirvine wrote:

Jon W wrote:

Jirvine wrote: Why are we being linked with Pascal Feindouno if you look at wikipedia his goal scoring record is awful and he isnt a striker but an attacking midfielder. Also if we spend 5 mil on Gary Cahill thats going to leave nothing in the striker kitty. We are down if we cant get a decent striker, we should look to bring in a proven striker and try for bentdner on loan after his his own teamate nutted him. Please sort the striker crisis before next week!

We are being linked with loads of players, it doesnt mean we are going to sign them, what else are the papers going to report if they cant make up a bit of transfer gossip. Bentner is not upto it, have you watched any of Arsenal's games and the service he gets? Imagine him in our team, he wouldnt get a kick.

Jon W no offense but you dont know Shi*t. he has only really been played in the cup. When he was injury free at birmingham last season he was excellent. And a loan deal would be no risk. Do yourself a favour and get back in your pram adults are talking

I though that this was an adult debating chamber? Arent people entitled to their own opinions??

Jirvine wrote:

Martin Duggan wrote:

Jirvine wrote:

Jon W wrote:

Jirvine wrote: Why are we being linked with Pascal Feindouno if you look at wikipedia his goal scoring record is awful and he isnt a striker but an attacking midfielder. Also if we spend 5 mil on Gary Cahill thats going to leave nothing in the striker kitty. We are down if we cant get a decent striker, we should look to bring in a proven striker and try for bentdner on loan after his his own teamate nutted him. Please sort the striker crisis before next week!

We are being linked with loads of players, it doesnt mean we are going to sign them, what else are the papers going to report if they cant make up a bit of transfer gossip. Bentner is not upto it, have you watched any of Arsenal's games and the service he gets? Imagine him in our team, he wouldnt get a kick.

Jon W no offense but you dont know Shi*t. he has only really been played in the cup. When he was injury free at birmingham last season he was excellent. And a loan deal would be no risk. Do yourself a favour and get back in your pram adults are talking

I though that this was an adult debating chamber? Arent people entitled to their own opinions??

Who threw you a nut?

Jirvine wrote:

Jon W wrote:

Jirvine wrote: Why are we being linked with Pascal Feindouno if you look at wikipedia his goal scoring record is awful and he isnt a striker but an attacking midfielder. Also if we spend 5 mil on Gary Cahill thats going to leave nothing in the striker kitty. We are down if we cant get a decent striker, we should look to bring in a proven striker and try for bentdner on loan after his his own teamate nutted him. Please sort the striker crisis before next week!

We are being linked with loads of players, it doesnt mean we are going to sign them, what else are the papers going to report if they cant make up a bit of transfer gossip. Bentner is not upto it, have you watched any of Arsenal's games and the service he gets? Imagine him in our team, he wouldnt get a kick.

Jon W no offense but you dont know Shi*t. he has only really been played in the cup. When he was injury free at birmingham last season he was excellent. And a loan deal would be no risk. Do yourself a favour and get back in your pram adults are talking

breezeblock wrote:

8. Publicly acknowledge to the world (whether fans or not) what the state of the clubs accounts are like and go into some semi-details about it (i.e. wages - although as a total and NOT individually)

Sorry, did I skim that bit or just read it as you meant it to be? YOU want to know about the wages. Why? Why do you want to know how much the bloke in the ticket office gets or the women who runs the corporate hospitality? Exactly what "semi details" do you want to know?

Tim D wrote:
It's amazing really that we cannot find a decent striker. According to reports published recently in the BN, Chelsea had been in discussion with Gartside for 2 months regarding Anelka's transfer. This means we have had a least 2 months and 3 weeks to find a replacement. Maybe it's a case of players not wanting to come to a team that is flirting with relegation? I reckon we will end up with some second rate forward, probably on loan. Meanwhile, we are paying for a possy of strikers who are simply not up to it. Messrs Vaz Te, Helgusson, Braaten need shipping out in summer.

amosc99 wrote:
AMOSC - please!!!!!!

breezeblock wrote:
Amosc, the wages ARE available - that's what company accounts are for. Do you want Gartside to phone you up to tell you the figure or are you going to get off your ar.se and get a copy from Companies House...I'll tell you what, I'll lend you the £3 to pay for them.

Gartside is not accountable to YOU to the degree that he should have to tell a paying customer what the wage bill is. Last time you went to the cinema did you demand the manager explain how much the cinema spent on staffing the previous year? No, didn't think so.

Embankment Bob wrote:
Didnt know this was the GCE re-sit site. Being a bit simple, I just want us to play in a bit more attractive way, so the bloke next to me doesnt have to keep wakeing me up.

Watching Everton on TV a bit lately, and I know they lost. The point is, they have midfielders who pass the ball, then run in to space. The only one we have who does that, is Guthrie. Im sure Megson will soon knock this out of him, or will get grassed up by Nolan for not tackling back.

Ewan in Edinburgh wrote:
ad- watching the game too and believe me I'm overjoyed that we didn't sign Balde him. Keeping an eye on Feindouno too ....

ad_bwfc wrote:

Ewan in Edinburgh wrote: ad- watching the game too and believe me I'm overjoyed that we didn't sign Balde him. Keeping an eye on Feindouno too ....

did u just see that through ball?? one screamer and one assist! come to bolton please Feindouno!

rob wrote:
I think if meggo was in the mood, he proberbly could talk wenger into letting us borrow theo walcott untill the summer, and i think we can forget about cahill now - if meggo had any sense he would buy 2 strikers rather than another defender and lets face it, cahill is a risk to villa if they want to get into europe again and if they trusted him to play the centre half position, why do they want to sell him, or loan him out ?.. c-mon meggo - get us darren bent and wayne routledge thrown in for 11.5 mln as well .. forget about defence, we need a forward and another winger like stelios ...

Andy wrote:
Michael Bridges, Chris Armstrong, Akin Bulent, Gerald Cid, Delroy Facey, Jermaine Johnson......I think saying 50% of Lardydunce's signings were flops is a bit generous.

yankie wrote:
Same old story rolled out very year. The only garentee is to go down.

Andy wrote:
....Fabrice Fernandes, Ibrahim Ba, Martin Djetou, Idan Tal,Djibril Diawara, Gerald Cid......

Embankment Bob wrote:
What about supporters who post about big signings coming in before Friday? At the moment, Id say there is more chance of going down than staying up, pal.

Tim D wrote:
It's amazing really that we cannot find a decent striker. According to reports published recently in the BN, Chelsea had been in discussion with Gartside for 2 months regarding Anelka's transfer. This means we have had a least 2 months and 3 weeks to find a replacement. Maybe it's a case of players not wanting to come to a team that is flirting with relegation? I reckon we will end up with some second rate forward, probably on loan. Meanwhile, we are paying for a possy of strikers who are simply not up to it. Messrs Vaz Te, Helgusson, Braaten need shipping out in summer.

MickaWanderer wrote:
I'm back and repeat give Gartside a break. Just to clear one or two things up, I am a BWFC supporter. I've had horrendous coach trips to Cambridge Utd and Exeter and Newport. Have you lot ever been there? I dont think so, so amosc99 I suggest you think again. Or think full stop. I'm a wanderers fan and not completely blinkered. Sam was fantastic but after he left our loyalties must remain with BWFC and his promises to leave the club of its staff were quickly forgotten.Thats all I say about Sam. Regarding getting some players in, what do you think Megson and the rest of them have been doing? Sitting around waiting until we sell? No!! We had a fantastic scouting network but guess who stripped the club of that then? Yes its Sam. He took it all to NEWCASTLE. So amosc99 now work out one reason why perhaps we havent got many players in this last 12 months or so? Except those UK based who cost a fortune? If you are struggling with that one I'm sure other postings can enlighten you. We lost most of the backbone of our scouting network when Sam showed us how loyal he was to BWFC - nothing to do with his loyalty to Gartside, he should have left the club alone but he had a new shiny stripy master. But for a few dollars more.....loyalties quickly change. And, while we are at it, let be sensible; what decent player (and I mean decent) would come to Bolton. Loyalty aside we are bottom 6 with poor crowds and no cash. Its nothing to do with Megson, Gartside, Davis or Hans Christian Anderson for that matter. Get real, get sensible and get a brain.If we lost Gartside and Davis you might just get a chance to be on the coach to Exeter again.

amosc99 wrote:

MickaWanderer wrote: I'm back and repeat give Gartside a break. Just to clear one or two things up, I am a BWFC supporter. I've had horrendous coach trips to Cambridge Utd and Exeter and Newport. Have you lot ever been there? I dont think so, so amosc99 I suggest you think again. Or think full stop. I'm a wanderers fan and not completely blinkered. Sam was fantastic but after he left our loyalties must remain with BWFC and his promises to leave the club of its staff were quickly forgotten.Thats all I say about Sam. Regarding getting some players in, what do you think Megson and the rest of them have been doing? Sitting around waiting until we sell? No!! We had a fantastic scouting network but guess who stripped the club of that then? Yes its Sam. He took it all to NEWCASTLE. So amosc99 now work out one reason why perhaps we havent got many players in this last 12 months or so? Except those UK based who cost a fortune? If you are struggling with that one I'm sure other postings can enlighten you. We lost most of the backbone of our scouting network when Sam showed us how loyal he was to BWFC - nothing to do with his loyalty to Gartside, he should have left the club alone but he had a new shiny stripy master. But for a few dollars more.....loyalties quickly change. And, while we are at it, let be sensible; what decent player (and I mean decent) would come to Bolton. Loyalty aside we are bottom 6 with poor crowds and no cash. Its nothing to do with Megson, Gartside, Davis or Hans Christian Anderson for that matter. Get real, get sensible and get a brain.If we lost Gartside and Davis you might just get a chance to be on the coach to Exeter again.

Firstly I am not struggling - I just have a life and was out last night!!! I remember the glory days in the 4th Division with Phil Neal as manager and Hargreaves as our Chairman (who in many ways had the same temprement as Gartside BUT was willing to back his management and give money to strengthen the team!!!) Did Sam take ALL our Scouts???? Did he take ALL our back-room staff? So why did Gretar come (wasn't it due to the scouts, past-team mates, etc?????) Get your facts right before you spout that nonsense!!! Yes he did take backroom staff - you tell me which manager doesn't? - Again Gartside should have been prepared for that as ALL managers when changing clubs take staff with them! Our scouting network is as good now as it ever was under Big Sam! On this thread I have not attacked Megson - so, again, you have put words in my mouth which I have not said! Megson, wioth his buys, so far, has been great (although his onfield line-up still has a lot to be desired!!!!). Again, in this thread I have not attacked Davies - words in mouth again!!! THe one thing wrong at Bolton Wanderers is GARTSIDE - as a post just a bit further up from this one states in the last couple of years everything that Gartside has touched has gone wrong. Time for change, time for new fresh ideas. (would you say the same about Prime Ministers??? Lets keep Tony Blair, and his last set of front benchers, as under anyone else the country will falter!!!!!!!!) Gartside out - new person in (and I am sure there are many "contenders" out there that want the challenge, that have the new ideas, that have the ambition for the club). There is no point saying name the people, as the person could already be working for the club in a non-directive way or it could be anyone outside the club wanting the challenge!

paul wrote:
If you look at the top management of our club, there are three, Davies, Gartside and Duckworth who is the full time managing director and is paid over £400k per annum. I think thats one too many. We should only need an owner and managing director, I think this leads to indecision and inertia as Duckworth asks Gartside and Gartside asks Davies. Cut out the middleman and save the club a fortune.

Manipulated the fans to believeing there is so much in the kitty for transfers but when the transfer window opens wo do NOT have the same amount of money as he expresssed - that has happened SO many times previously

amosc99 wrote:
Other than appointing Sammy Lee, what else has he done wrong? Because I can't think of anything in his control that he's got wrong. Manipulated the fans to believeing there is so much in the kitty for transfers but when the transfer window opens wo do NOT have the same amount of money as he expresssed - that has happened SO many times previously Actually lied to the fans about not trying to sell Jay-Jay - unfortunately he was exposed as a liar on the Panorama programme! Appoint LSL - giving LSL money to buy many mediocre players The argument with Big Sam - so much so that he did not give Sam any more to strengthen the team last January - although we supposedly had money in the transfer kitty!!!!! Blatantly opening the argument with Big Sam, to the outside world via the press. Big Sam did the most decent thing here and kept quiet!!!

Martin Duggan wrote:
If, for example another chairman was appointed and Gartside was kicked out, would we suddenly have more money to spend on transfers??? I somehow doubt it.

amosc99 wrote:

Martin Duggan wrote: If, for example another chairman was appointed and Gartside was kicked out, would we suddenly have more money to spend on transfers??? I somehow doubt it.

Ex Thornleigh, arn't you??????? There would be more chance of more money - but we need fresh ideas, fresh approach. It's not just about transfer money its about the whole experience for the corporates AND fans alike - where at moment it is all corporate!

Martin Duggan wrote:

amosc99 wrote:

Martin Duggan wrote: If, for example another chairman was appointed and Gartside was kicked out, would we suddenly have more money to spend on transfers??? I somehow doubt it.

Ex Thornleigh, arn't you??????? There would be more chance of more money - but we need fresh ideas, fresh approach. It's not just about transfer money its about the whole experience for the corporates AND fans alike - where at moment it is all corporate!

I am ex Thornleigh, who are you??? Its a difficult one. We have tried lower prices but that hasnt worked. To be honest the attendances have been going down over the last 2 yrs. Maybe the novelty has just worn off. I,for one, will still be going like I have been for the last 30 odd yrs come rain, shine or terrible football.

breezeblock wrote:
Name names.

breezeblock wrote:
Guarantee? Who then? Stop faffing about and tell us who would want to do a job that, even when done well, c.unts like you still think could be done better.

Gartside HAS lied to the fans numerous times with regards to transfer kitty and with regards to Jay-Jay!!!

breezeblock wrote:
Blah, blah...I bet you got reet worked up writing that little lot didn't you. Language is language. One word is the same as another - it's only the context that matters and if YOU, who appears to work behind the counter for a bank, think you are even in the same league in business terms then you are a c.unt. No two ways about it. How on earth you think you can take him to task when a) you obviously haven't even bothered to read the company accounts (which is amazing given your sweeping accusations) and b) you blatantly embellish circumstances surrounding behind the scenes financial affairs is staggeringly arrogant on your part.

Gartside HAS lied to the fans numerous times with regards to transfer kitty and with regards to Jay-Jay!!!

Numerous times? Ok, let's have them. The internet surely has within its realms of information the details of these 'numerous' lies. Let's have the details please or else the assumption would be that you are just making it up. As for the Jay Jay deal - Gartside had said they didn't want to sell him but then an agent (who turned out to be a reporter) approached them offering big money for a player whose contract was about to run out. Businessman or not, EVERYONE would have taken that deal. Get over your own petty indiffernces Amosc, you know nothing about what happens at the club in the same way no-one else on here does and yet you have formulated so many critical opinions of a man who is, in essence, a total stranger to you. However if you choose to spend your life complaining and whinging when our club is still in the top flight and generally about to start Phase 2 of our Premier League life then feel free...but remember some of us are far too optimistic about what might happen on the pitch than juggling supposition and hearsay regarding what occurs in the board room.

it's only the context that matters and if YOU, who appears to work behind the counter for a bank,

As for the Jay Jay deal - Gartside had said they didn't want to sell him but then an agent (who turned out to be a reporter) approached them offering big money for a player whose contract was about to run out. Businessman or not, EVERYONE would have taken that deal.

How on earth you think you can take him to task when a) you obviously haven't even bothered to read the company accounts (which is amazing given your sweeping accusations) and b) you blatantly embellish circumstances surrounding behind the scenes financial affairs is staggeringly arrogant on your part.