trotters1964 wrote:
to be honest he has a point, however it was yet another pr clanger, have you thought about appointing 'max clifford' (on second thoughts), as i'm well known for being against megson, i'd like to back it up with facts, as a rule over a career wins and losses well outweigh draws, however in megsons managerial career and consistantly throughout i may add, he has drawn matches, in fact such a draw specialist is he that he may reach 200 draws in his managerial career before he reaches 200 wins, a remarkable if somewhat boring achievement. stats can lie but i think this is another pointer, or should i say one pointer towards the football we should expect. another comment on another thread refers to colin harveys appointment, is he still there and what does he do, i thought he'd retired years ago, colin harvey was a first class assistant and manager in the 80's and 90's he has never been a chief scout, again smacks of nepotism as megson probably played when harvey was around at everton, so no doubt is returning some favour, dont know what he does and havent even heard nowt from him, no doubt he will be taking credit for all our signings and blaming bsa and lsl for the ones he doesnt make, bsa appointed a lot of unknowns but they were based on talent to do specialist jobs, i know we had one of the biggest backroom staffs in the history of football! but it worked, appoint talent create talent!

YouriLeGod wrote:
Would agree there was no cause to do it. Escaping relegation at the end of the season is not cause for a lap of honour. Players chose to do it themselves, that's not a problem. They know what the situation is regarding contracts. One thing that might have been an idea would have been to announce it over the tannoy that none would take place, apart from the fact we had no sound from it in the East Stand on Saturday. On another note. Has anyone seen that Sky are placing all emphasis on Wigan getting beaten on Sunday and taking it as a certainty that we will lose to Chelsea.

Horwich Allstars wrote:
They should have done the lap on Sunday. It's a way of the players saying thatkyou to the fans...they should be more appreciative this year, as we have stuck by them through a series of pretty poor performances. The PA system not working was a real pain... no idea what was going on. What if there had been a safety announcement? Bring back the fireworks at the start of the match....might bring us a bit of luck :-)

Chris Manning, Gotham City PD wrote:
money

Horwich Allstars wrote:
They should have done the lap on Sunday. It's a way of the players saying thatkyou to the fans...they should be more appreciative this year, as we have stuck by them through a series of pretty poor performances. The PA system not working was a real pain... no idea what was going on. What if there had been a safety announcement? Bring back the fireworks at the start of the match....might bring us a bit of luck :-)

trotters1964 wrote:
to be honest he has a point, however it was yet another pr clanger, have you thought about appointing 'max clifford' (on second thoughts), as i'm well known for being against megson, i'd like to back it up with facts, as a rule over a career wins and losses well outweigh draws, however in megsons managerial career and consistantly throughout i may add, he has drawn matches, in fact such a draw specialist is he that he may reach 200 draws in his managerial career before he reaches 200 wins, a remarkable if somewhat boring achievement. stats can lie but i think this is another pointer, or should i say one pointer towards the football we should expect. another comment on another thread refers to colin harveys appointment, is he still there and what does he do, i thought he'd retired years ago, colin harvey was a first class assistant and manager in the 80's and 90's he has never been a chief scout, again smacks of nepotism as megson probably played when harvey was around at everton, so no doubt is returning some favour, dont know what he does and havent even heard nowt from him, no doubt he will be taking credit for all our signings and blaming bsa and lsl for the ones he doesnt make, bsa appointed a lot of unknowns but they were based on talent to do specialist jobs, i know we had one of the biggest backroom staffs in the history of football! but it worked, appoint talent create talent!

Carole Bates wrote:
I agree with Matty - we should have been able to say goodbye to Dioufy, Jussi, Stelios etc. They have been good for our club. I felt aggrieved when we didn't get to say goodbye to Jay Jay. I know we have not much to be proud of this year or much to celebrate its not a lap of honour its a thank you to the fans who have stuck around.

charlie wrote:

Horwich Allstars wrote: They should have done the lap on Sunday. It's a way of the players saying thatkyou to the fans...they should be more appreciative this year, as we have stuck by them through a series of pretty poor performances. The PA system not working was a real pain... no idea what was going on. What if there had been a safety announcement? Bring back the fireworks at the start of the match....might bring us a bit of luck :-)

Any idea why the fireworks were stopped?

we are where we are,

andy wrote:
Some people just make up lies to justify their irratioanl hatred of Megson and the board. The firworks were stopped in the wake of a Wolves fan being hit in the face by one at Molineux. If part tim esupporters want to say goodbye to the heroes like Campo, Jussi and Stelios, they've had plenty of opportunities. But the ground's been half full for most of the season so you can't complain now. Being a fan is supposed to cost you something. You don't just turn up on the last day of the season, have a sing song in the sun and then demand the right to spout forth innaccurate opinions on here.

Horwich Allstars wrote:
I think that the fireworks (and the music when the goals were scored) where stopped in order to usher in a new era. I quite enjoyed having a sing along to Amirillo (or whatever) when we scored a goal. They can't have stopped the music due to finances. Apart from that, how much do a few fireworks cost? probably less than it's costs them to wine and dine our local councillers before the match

andy wrote:
Some people just make up lies to justify their irratioanl hatred of Megson and the board. The firworks were stopped in the wake of a Wolves fan being hit in the face by one at Molineux. If part tim esupporters want to say goodbye to the heroes like Campo, Jussi and Stelios, they've had plenty of opportunities. But the ground's been half full for most of the season so you can't complain now. Being a fan is supposed to cost you something. You don't just turn up on the last day of the season, have a sing song in the sun and then demand the right to spout forth innaccurate opinions on here.
Are you retarded?

Carl_XVI_Gustaf wrote:

andy wrote: Some people just make up lies to justify their irratioanl hatred of Megson and the board. The firworks were stopped in the wake of a Wolves fan being hit in the face by one at Molineux. If part tim esupporters want to say goodbye to the heroes like Campo, Jussi and Stelios, they've had plenty of opportunities. But the ground's been half full for most of the season so you can't complain now. Being a fan is supposed to cost you something. You don't just turn up on the last day of the season, have a sing song in the sun and then demand the right to spout forth innaccurate opinions on here.

Are you retarded?

andy wrote:
Silly boy fernando. If you want Bolton to lose, you're not a Bolton fan.

Andy wrote:
They have not lost at home since the Fall of France Would that be when that famous Corsican Henrik Bonaparte stormed past Terry into the Tuilleries? "Not tonight, Johnterri"

Snout wrote:
Anyone believing what they read on Tribal is retarded.

BWFC - TIL - I - DIE wrote:
personally i couldnt give a poo who wins the league if it meant us getting 3 pts at stamford bridge!!!!

Snout wrote:
Anyone believing what they read on Tribal is retarded.

andy wrote:
Chelsea are every bit as bad as United in every way. Their owner is a shady scumbag. Their manager hates the small clubs. Their fans don't come from their local area. They're wrecking football by paying huge prices. So why exactly should I be desparate to see my side lose to them, even when we're not safe?

f wrote:
Not sure about the kit story. As far as I remember, the current deal lasts until next year and a provisional extension was agreed until 2016 in line with stadium naming rights... As for signings, I'm no fan of Mr Megson but he's not done badly so far. That said, I hope he buys a forward or three! :)

andy wrote:
The kit sponsor isn't changing. It was yet another funny joke from the comedy characters who grace this message board.

matty_c wrote:
adidas do own reebok but allow them to continue business as usual due to them being a popular brand i dont think we will be changing kit sponsers after all reebok have sponsered us for ages why would they change now

hierro wrote:

matty_c wrote: adidas do own reebok but allow them to continue business as usual due to them being a popular brand i dont think we will be changing kit sponsers after all reebok have sponsered us for ages why would they change now

i agree it would be ludicrous for them to change the brand name on something that has been associated with us for so long - especially as the stadium has only just been refitted with all the new reebok signs - it's just something i stumbled upon earlier, not an unfunny joke that i made up - wonderered if anyone new any truth in this as it is something i had heard a couple of months ago also.

Jon W wrote:

trotters1964 wrote: to be honest he has a point, however it was yet another pr clanger, have you thought about appointing 'max clifford' (on second thoughts), as i'm well known for being against megson, i'd like to back it up with facts, as a rule over a career wins and losses well outweigh draws, however in megsons managerial career and consistantly throughout i may add, he has drawn matches, in fact such a draw specialist is he that he may reach 200 draws in his managerial career before he reaches 200 wins, a remarkable if somewhat boring achievement. stats can lie but i think this is another pointer, or should i say one pointer towards the football we should expect. another comment on another thread refers to colin harveys appointment, is he still there and what does he do, i thought he'd retired years ago, colin harvey was a first class assistant and manager in the 80's and 90's he has never been a chief scout, again smacks of nepotism as megson probably played when harvey was around at everton, so no doubt is returning some favour, dont know what he does and havent even heard nowt from him, no doubt he will be taking credit for all our signings and blaming bsa and lsl for the ones he doesnt make, bsa appointed a lot of unknowns but they were based on talent to do specialist jobs, i know we had one of the biggest backroom staffs in the history of football! but it worked, appoint talent create talent!

I said on another thread yesterday they couldnt win on this one and they couldnt. If we had lost to Sunderland did anyone seriously expect 1. The players to walk round the pitch taking the acclaim of the fans and 2. Any fans to still be left in the ground except those that were chanting Gartside/Megson out? Some people just want to whinge for whingeing's sake. Re Colin Harvey. Is there any law against appointing someone you have worked with in the past? Nobody complained about BSA appointing Phil Brown or Jimmy Phillips etc etc, but if you win a few games you can do what you want, if you dont whatever you do is wrong.

billyblackpool wrote:

trotters1964 wrote: to be honest he has a point, however it was yet another pr clanger, have you thought about appointing 'max clifford' (on second thoughts), as i'm well known for being against megson, i'd like to back it up with facts, as a rule over a career wins and losses well outweigh draws, however in megsons managerial career and consistantly throughout i may add, he has drawn matches, in fact such a draw specialist is he that he may reach 200 draws in his managerial career before he reaches 200 wins, a remarkable if somewhat boring achievement. stats can lie but i think this is another pointer, or should i say one pointer towards the football we should expect. another comment on another thread refers to colin harveys appointment, is he still there and what does he do, i thought he'd retired years ago, colin harvey was a first class assistant and manager in the 80's and 90's he has never been a chief scout, again smacks of nepotism as megson probably played when harvey was around at everton, so no doubt is returning some favour, dont know what he does and havent even heard nowt from him, no doubt he will be taking credit for all our signings and blaming bsa and lsl for the ones he doesnt make, bsa appointed a lot of unknowns but they were based on talent to do specialist jobs, i know we had one of the biggest backroom staffs in the history of football! but it worked, appoint talent create talent!

Dont know your source for your facts trotters1964 but according to this source ( a quite reliable one)http://www.socce rbase.com/managers2. sd?managerid=482 194 Games Won 141 Games Drawn

Jon W wrote:
trotters1964 - I wasnt having a go at all, it wasnt meant to come across that way. I just find it strange that we who know nothing about what an individual does behind the scenes can criticise an appointment or an individual's role. Nobody criticised BSA for appointing Jimmy Phillips, how on earth are we supposed to know he's better at his job than Colin Harvey is at his? It just seems easy to criticise every decision of Megsons when if the same decision was made by a popular manager it wouldnt be commented on. Obviously I can no more comment on whether Colin Harvey is a good appointment than you can. You misunderstood me re the crowd staying behind - I was saying that if we had lost it would have been a farce to have had a lap of honour, the atmosphere would have been 1 of fury. They were hardly likely to take the risk of announcing pre-match that there would be a lap of honour, and neither could they say "we'll just do 1 if we win". But I do agree with you - Megson should not have apologised, no need.

Paul wrote:
At the end of Sat game the 3 players I noticed making a point to wave to the fans were Diouf, Stelios and Al Habsi. We know Diouf wants to go and Stelios isnt wanted, but Al Habsi? Please tell me he isnt about to walk out as well??

steve wrote:

Paul wrote: At the end of Sat game the 3 players I noticed making a point to wave to the fans were Diouf, Stelios and Al Habsi. We know Diouf wants to go and Stelios isnt wanted, but Al Habsi? Please tell me he isnt about to walk out as well??

I saw Al Habsi grab hold of a flag (Oman?) and parade around with that - I thought in his case it was more about his personal pride in doing a good job in his first major run of games, rather than a farewell gesture. I do hope I am right, he's been excellent every time he's been called upon to play. I'd have no problem letting Jussi go now as long as we have Al Habsi tied to a decent contract.

matty_c wrote:

YouriLeGod wrote: Would agree there was no cause to do it. Escaping relegation at the end of the season is not cause for a lap of honour. Players chose to do it themselves, that's not a problem. They know what the situation is regarding contracts. One thing that might have been an idea would have been to announce it over the tannoy that none would take place, apart from the fact we had no sound from it in the East Stand on Saturday. On another note. Has anyone seen that Sky are placing all emphasis on Wigan getting beaten on Sunday and taking it as a certainty that we will lose to Chelsea.

we should have done a lap of honour if for no other reason than to let the players leaving in the summer say goodbye like we should have allowed okocha, djorkaeff and ngotty. not surprised they believe we're going to get beat wigans pitch is a dump which gives them an edge over man utd while chelsea havent lost at home in a while.

matty_c wrote:

YouriLeGod wrote: Would agree there was no cause to do it. Escaping relegation at the end of the season is not cause for a lap of honour. Players chose to do it themselves, that's not a problem. They know what the situation is regarding contracts. One thing that might have been an idea would have been to announce it over the tannoy that none would take place, apart from the fact we had no sound from it in the East Stand on Saturday. On another note. Has anyone seen that Sky are placing all emphasis on Wigan getting beaten on Sunday and taking it as a certainty that we will lose to Chelsea.

we should have done a lap of honour if for no other reason than to let the players leaving in the summer say goodbye like we should have allowed okocha, djorkaeff and ngotty. not surprised they believe we're going to get beat wigans pitch is a dump which gives them an edge over man utd while chelsea havent lost at home in a while.

Lord Lucan wrote:
Some facts (or near facts) about next year's squad: - it will be slimmed because we are not in Europe this time - it will be further trimmed because Megson doesn't like cup runs: he prefers to save the first team until half a dozen games before the end of the season before shoving a hot poker up their collective a55e5 - he won't bring in many foreign players coz he doesn't like them eg Andranik, Meite, Diouf, Anelka, stelios etc: so that means home grown talent coming in from the lower leagues (hidden gems he'll call them) - he'll can as many foreign players as possible because he doesn't like them - he won't bring in flair players because they are trouble - like Diouf - he loves hearing the chant "we couldn't score in a brothel" so don't expect any decent strikers this side of summer 2009 - he'll reluctantly let Rasiak go as the other players spoilt his plan to go down and keep the goal-shy pole. I predict a riot...

One player who could be arriving at Bolton is Sheffield United defender Chris Morgan in a £1m deal. (Daily Star)

anastasia wrote:
I have been a season ticket holder since the mid '80s.This season we have been so poor,in our skills and our graft.The deterioration since Feb'07 has been amazing.On Saturday it was great to be safe even if 'not mathmatically' but then to be robbed of our opportunity to thank players who will leave and yes for them to thank us left me angry. Who advises Megson? The lap of honour is not just to celebrate the season, lets face it just surviving and the way we are playing is not to be applauded.We wanted to thank Stelios ,Jussi and Campo to aknowledge their contribution to what have been fantastic recent years.I'm afraid for us next season. I do not see Megson bringing quality in. Let us hope that a miracle happens in the summer!

Taylor, Steinsson, and Cahill.Great signings.

Chris Manning, Gotham City PD wrote:

Taylor, Steinsson, and Cahill.Great signings.

Are you drunk?

Chris Manning, Gotham City PD wrote:
Anyone who thinks next year will be any different is deluded. We should have gone down, now next year we definitely will.

breezeblock wrote:
"...it is possible that the Addidas name could appear in the future on the strip and become the new anme of the stadium as I know quite well that Addidas bought the reputation but do not wish to keep the brand name." You know what quite well? That Addidas has seventy-three d's in its name? How would a company like Addidas (sic) use the "reputation" of Reebok without the brand name? What are you on about? Typical Gartside.

anastasia wrote:
I have been a season ticket holder since the mid '80s.This season we have been so poor,in our skills and our graft.The deterioration since Feb'07 has been amazing.On Saturday it was great to be safe even if 'not mathmatically' but then to be robbed of our opportunity to thank players who will leave and yes for them to thank us left me angry. Who advises Megson? The lap of honour is not just to celebrate the season, lets face it just surviving and the way we are playing is not to be applauded.We wanted to thank Stelios ,Jussi and Campo to aknowledge their contribution to what have been fantastic recent years.I'm afraid for us next season. I do not see Megson bringing quality in. Let us hope that a miracle happens in the summer!

trotters1964 wrote:

anastasia wrote: I have been a season ticket holder since the mid '80s.This season we have been so poor,in our skills and our graft.The deterioration since Feb'07 has been amazing.On Saturday it was great to be safe even if 'not mathmatically' but then to be robbed of our opportunity to thank players who will leave and yes for them to thank us left me angry. Who advises Megson? The lap of honour is not just to celebrate the season, lets face it just surviving and the way we are playing is not to be applauded.We wanted to thank Stelios ,Jussi and Campo to aknowledge their contribution to what have been fantastic recent years.I'm afraid for us next season. I do not see Megson bringing quality in. Let us hope that a miracle happens in the summer!

i was a bit dissapointed myself but i can see megsons point, also there has been a lot of disharmony in the camp and i suspect he didnt want it airing in public, as it was those players that wanted to stay did, as for the summer signings we will have to see i'm prepared to give him a chance until proved otherwise, i think we will know by october and thats the time to review it, any changes, and dont get me wrong i'm 99% against megson, but another change now could prove to be counter productive. unless erikson or joel came along.