JAMIE HOYLAND: Quick recovery vital to Shakers season

IT is hard to take any positives from Tuesday night’s defeat at Cambridge.

The only possible silver lining to that dark cloud could be that the squad now has more than a week to regroup, recuperate and prepare for what is a vital match at home to fellow strugglers Northampton Town.

I can tell you, though, no-one at the club will be thinking that – not the players, not the management and certainly not the chairman.

Being knocked out in the first round of the FA Cup by a non-league club, albeit the Conference leaders, would be a hammer blow at the best of times.

But to miss out on a glamour tie in front of the TV cameras against a team like Sheffield United is incredibly disappointing, both in a sporting and financial sense.

It is true that some of the players have been struggling through illness and injury, but the management will be more worried about their injured pride and the effect this defeat will have on their fragile confidence.

They would have all really wanted to play Sheffield United, test themselves against Nigel Clough’s players and see how far they could go in the cup.

Ronnie Jepson and his team will now face a difficult week or so trying to pick them up and lift the mood around the camp, which I am sure will be very downbeat.

But it is very important that they do that and try to put the cup disappointment behind them quickly.

If they had won on Tuesday, and managed to back that up with a good result against the Blades at the weekend then confidence would have been sky high going into the festive period.

As it is, it will probably feel like a backwards step after some pretty decent performances of late.

Bury went into the trip to Cambridge on the back of a first win at home since August and, by all accounts, another promising display at Exeter.

What the players have to do now is focus on that, dig in and come out fighting because as far as I am concerned their season starts now.

Games over Christmas come thick and fast and I think the results the Shakers get in these will shape the rest of their season.

They have Danny Nardiello to return, who was unavailable to play in the FA Cup. His goals should provide them with a decent platform for success, but what they also have to do is find a way to change their draws into wins.

In a way it is almost better winning one and losing one, rather than getting into the habit of drawing too many games.

If they can crack that problem, then hopefully the cup defeat will be long forgotten by the New Year.

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12:56am Fri 6 Dec 13

RONNIEJAWS says...

I really don't like to be too harsh and critical of a Bury old boy of some note, but there are some things I must say. Mr. Hoyland, you have the opportunity and name to actually say things or true current relavance that might help the situation now. You didn't. All you have done is fill the required column size with words and waffle that is meaninglessly obvious to 90% of Shakers fans. Yes a cup run would be nice, but lets be honest here. All we could have really hoped for was getting to the Sheffield game and the TV payday, and then at least putting up a respectible performance in likely defeat. This squad was not going to go far in the cup at all, but a bit of cash would have been handy instead of the shame and embarassment that was handed us by the playing side. We singed so many players this summer, PLUS all the loanees, and still we depend on using the maximum number of loanees in every team line-up. That our goal scoring hope is one of two spares from the squad who were in the division below us last year. That also applies to our defence now. Based on two squad spares we loaned from a fellow division rival. It's one thing to take in a young Championship kid like Forrester in the same way as we had Tom Leees all season. Sure even have a couple of young hungry up and coming kids from Championship teams. But there is something very wrong when we have dependency on so many loanee players from teams somewhat around our league level. You do not highlight any specific areas or persons to blame from the playing side. Ex player or not, as some form of pundit you are expected by your readers to analyse performances, and surely must be critical of poor performance more specifically! Articulate some of the many many voices of the swelling numbers of fans dissatisfaction too maybe. I'm very sorry, but this column is meaningless and irrelavant to where Bury FC really are today and now.
I really don't like to be too harsh and critical of a Bury old boy of some note, but there are some things I must say. Mr. Hoyland, you have the opportunity and name to actually say things or true current relavance that might help the situation now. You didn't. All you have done is fill the required column size with words and waffle that is meaninglessly obvious to 90% of Shakers fans. Yes a cup run would be nice, but lets be honest here. All we could have really hoped for was getting to the Sheffield game and the TV payday, and then at least putting up a respectible performance in likely defeat. This squad was not going to go far in the cup at all, but a bit of cash would have been handy instead of the shame and embarassment that was handed us by the playing side. We singed so many players this summer, PLUS all the loanees, and still we depend on using the maximum number of loanees in every team line-up. That our goal scoring hope is one of two spares from the squad who were in the division below us last year. That also applies to our defence now. Based on two squad spares we loaned from a fellow division rival. It's one thing to take in a young Championship kid like Forrester in the same way as we had Tom Leees all season. Sure even have a couple of young hungry up and coming kids from Championship teams. But there is something very wrong when we have dependency on so many loanee players from teams somewhat around our league level. You do not highlight any specific areas or persons to blame from the playing side. Ex player or not, as some form of pundit you are expected by your readers to analyse performances, and surely must be critical of poor performance more specifically! Articulate some of the many many voices of the swelling numbers of fans dissatisfaction too maybe. I'm very sorry, but this column is meaningless and irrelavant to where Bury FC really are today and now. RONNIEJAWS

9:11am Fri 6 Dec 13

rotarywing says...

Just watched Ronnie's interview with that sycophantic clown on Player. Is it me???? You would think we were top of the league and through the FA cup. Who is kidding who? All they spout is how positive things are and its all down to bad luck and a poor playing surface. Can we please have some reality both on and off the pitch. Talk about fiddling whilst Rome burns. It's becoming embarrassing.
Just watched Ronnie's interview with that sycophantic clown on Player. Is it me???? You would think we were top of the league and through the FA cup. Who is kidding who? All they spout is how positive things are and its all down to bad luck and a poor playing surface. Can we please have some reality both on and off the pitch. Talk about fiddling whilst Rome burns. It's becoming embarrassing. rotarywing

4:05pm Fri 6 Dec 13

Ex Pat of Bury says...

Certain players are just not good enough one doesnt need to be a manager to see this if the caretaker cannot see this then he needs to go too,as for Jamie you were a better player than pundit.Bishop has gone for me the same reason that Harrad should go.He has had enough games and chances,Ashley who,waste of time ,enter Nardiello,funny isnt it 2 goals in two games,that tells the story not more old more old wafflel.What is required are decent strikers who can score at this level when half and full chances present themselves.
Certain players are just not good enough one doesnt need to be a manager to see this if the caretaker cannot see this then he needs to go too,as for Jamie you were a better player than pundit.Bishop has gone for me the same reason that Harrad should go.He has had enough games and chances,Ashley who,waste of time ,enter Nardiello,funny isnt it 2 goals in two games,that tells the story not more old more old wafflel.What is required are decent strikers who can score at this level when half and full chances present themselves. Ex Pat of Bury

8:44am Sat 7 Dec 13

Lisasmit says...

Let's say it as we see it shall we Jamie. Most of this lot that Barker, Blackwell (and Ronnie) have brought in are not fit to wear the shirt.
I see little effort and commitment, week in week out. Why o why did they let Blackwell concentrate on quantity rather than quality? It beggars belief...
Any team with any passion and determination can beat this lot. Skill we may have, passion for the fight? Sadly, I don't see it..

Double training is required.
Let's say it as we see it shall we Jamie. Most of this lot that Barker, Blackwell (and Ronnie) have brought in are not fit to wear the shirt. I see little effort and commitment, week in week out. Why o why did they let Blackwell concentrate on quantity rather than quality? It beggars belief... Any team with any passion and determination can beat this lot. Skill we may have, passion for the fight? Sadly, I don't see it.. Double training is required. Lisasmit

9:42am Sat 7 Dec 13

RONNIEJAWS says...

It's quite amazing. Apart from a little bit of post match dross the silence from all quarters of Bury FC REGARDING ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE PLAYING SIDE IS DEAFENING!!! I WONDER WHY? WE KNOW, WHAT THEY KNOW BUT THEY WON'T SAY OR ADMIT. Instead they just hope it will pass by or die down, or we win the next game. Is this really a plan or forward thinking, or a revolution? Please, give us a break. Who do they think they are fooling!
It's quite amazing. Apart from a little bit of post match dross the silence from all quarters of Bury FC REGARDING ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE PLAYING SIDE IS DEAFENING!!! I WONDER WHY? WE KNOW, WHAT THEY KNOW [some anyway] BUT THEY WON'T SAY OR ADMIT. Instead they just hope it will pass by or die down, or we win the next game. Is this really a plan or forward thinking, or a revolution? Please, give us a break. Who do they think they are fooling! RONNIEJAWS

10:00am Sat 7 Dec 13

RONNIEJAWS says...

Everyone inside the club should use todays GAME INACTIVITY to take a long look at themselves and what they are doing or not doing. Look themselves straight at a mirror and ask why they aren't still in the FA cup party that more than 6 other non league teams still are at. Yet another analogy. So we saw the ship was sinking and we fired the Captain . What did we do to stop it flooding and sinking further? A new Captain - NO AHHH Stability! Thats the answer. So we through the anchor over, stay put where we are and start to bail out the water. All that means is we have chosen where we sink. Personally like many other fans I had hoped sanity would have prevailed a long time ago and a new Captain would have been given a real chance to organise his crew and try to navigate us to land safely by the end of the season, if not before. Every day that passes your making the next Managers job even harder. Plus losing fans at the gate.
Everyone inside the club should use todays GAME INACTIVITY to take a long look at themselves and what they are doing or not doing. Look themselves straight at a mirror and ask why they aren't still in the FA cup party that more than 6 other non league teams still are at. Yet another analogy. So we saw the ship was sinking and we fired the Captain [ KB ]. What did we do to stop it flooding and sinking further? A new Captain - NO AHHH Stability! Thats the answer. So we through the anchor over, stay put where we are and start to bail out the water. All that means is we have chosen where we sink. Personally like many other fans I had hoped sanity would have prevailed a long time ago and a new Captain would have been given a real chance to organise his crew and try to navigate us to land safely by the end of the season, if not before. Every day that passes your making the next Managers job even harder. Plus losing fans at the gate. RONNIEJAWS

5:45pm Sat 7 Dec 13

tomroy says...

mr day is more interested in fancy wall paper than what happends
on the pitch priorities all wrong get a grip mr chairman.
mr day is more interested in fancy wall paper than what happends on the pitch priorities all wrong get a grip mr chairman. tomroy

8:35pm Sat 7 Dec 13

Babbar Divino says...

Lisasmit wrote:
Let's say it as we see it shall we Jamie. Most of this lot that Barker, Blackwell (and Ronnie) have brought in are not fit to wear the shirt.
I see little effort and commitment, week in week out. Why o why did they let Blackwell concentrate on quantity rather than quality? It beggars belief...
Any team with any passion and determination can beat this lot. Skill we may have, passion for the fight? Sadly, I don't see it..

Double training is required.
Double training or triple you can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. This shower have been given enough time to prove themselves (or not). I think Mr Day needs to get his wallet out ready for January and in addition someone at the helm who can make some good purchases or alternatively has the connections to get some "good" loaners in to save the season.
[quote][p][bold]Lisasmit[/bold] wrote: Let's say it as we see it shall we Jamie. Most of this lot that Barker, Blackwell (and Ronnie) have brought in are not fit to wear the shirt. I see little effort and commitment, week in week out. Why o why did they let Blackwell concentrate on quantity rather than quality? It beggars belief... Any team with any passion and determination can beat this lot. Skill we may have, passion for the fight? Sadly, I don't see it.. Double training is required.[/p][/quote]Double training or triple you can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. This shower have been given enough time to prove themselves (or not). I think Mr Day needs to get his wallet out ready for January and in addition someone at the helm who can make some good purchases or alternatively has the connections to get some "good" loaners in to save the season. Babbar Divino

7:09am Sun 8 Dec 13

RONNIEJAWS says...

Well done today Efe!
Well done today Efe! RONNIEJAWS

9:37am Sun 8 Dec 13

Lisasmit says...

I know what you mean Babbar. However, his current advisors have only recently told him to back Blackwell and Jepson and sign 27 players. It's going to be personally difficult, I feel to move away from this guidance, especially when people are shouting for you to spend more of your own money.
I tend to agree with what you say but this will not be easy and no doubt some of the reason for the wait for action?
I know what you mean Babbar. However, his current advisors have only recently told him to back Blackwell and Jepson and sign 27 players. It's going to be personally difficult, I feel to move away from this guidance, especially when people are shouting for you to spend more of your own money. I tend to agree with what you say but this will not be easy and no doubt some of the reason for the wait for action? Lisasmit

10:25pm Sun 8 Dec 13

RONNIEJAWS says...

I tend to agree with Lisasmit. It can be very unfair of fans to either critisize for not spending more, or demanding Mr. Day spends more. He has already invested a great deal, and found lots more the old board had tried to forget in a drawer somewhere. The only thing I have constantly suggested from day one after KB is we find the best man for manager ASAP. Plus, to be overly economic on such a major appointment is a very very false economy after you have already made a major investment. We all know this needs a complete rebuilding. But to get the revolution back on track, and the fans all behind it, they need a manager everyone can believe in. Bury's own 'Chosen One'
I tend to agree with Lisasmit. It can be very unfair of fans to either critisize for not spending more, or demanding Mr. Day spends more. He has already invested a great deal, and found lots more the old board had tried to forget in a drawer somewhere. The only thing I have constantly suggested from day one after KB is we find the best man for manager ASAP. Plus, to be overly economic on such a major appointment is a very very false economy after you have already made a major investment. We all know this needs a complete rebuilding. But to get the revolution back on track, and the fans all behind it, they need a manager everyone can believe in. Bury's own 'Chosen One' RONNIEJAWS

7:47am Mon 9 Dec 13

rotarywing says...

So, Cambridge go out 2-0 at home to a struggling League 1 side. What does that tell you about us ? Where does that indicate our true position lies? Nothing positive coming out of Gigg despite Ronnie's and uncle Keith's pathetic interviews.
So, Cambridge go out 2-0 at home to a struggling League 1 side. What does that tell you about us ? Where does that indicate our true position lies? Nothing positive coming out of Gigg despite Ronnie's and uncle Keith's pathetic interviews. rotarywing

3:47pm Mon 9 Dec 13

RONNIEJAWS says...

"ALL I WANT FOR CHRISTMAS IS _ G__D EXP________ N__ M______."

Please Please Santa.

I promise you I have been a good boy all year and stayed loyal supporting despite all the tests to my loyalty.
I know there are only so many to go around, and everybody wants one right now.

p.s.
I don't mean to push or nag, but if you leave it to late, there will only be the store seconds and shelf damaged ones left.
"ALL I WANT FOR CHRISTMAS IS _ G__D EXP________ N__ M______." Please Please Santa. I promise you I have been a good boy all year and stayed loyal supporting despite all the tests to my loyalty. I know there are only so many to go around, and everybody wants one right now. p.s. I don't mean to push or nag, but if you leave it to late, there will only be the store seconds and shelf damaged ones left. RONNIEJAWS

5:21pm Mon 9 Dec 13

easylife44 says...

RONNIEJAWS wrote:
I tend to agree with Lisasmit. It can be very unfair of fans to either critisize for not spending more, or demanding Mr. Day spends more. He has already invested a great deal, and found lots more the old board had tried to forget in a drawer somewhere. The only thing I have constantly suggested from day one after KB is we find the best man for manager ASAP. Plus, to be overly economic on such a major appointment is a very very false economy after you have already made a major investment. We all know this needs a complete rebuilding. But to get the revolution back on track, and the fans all behind it, they need a manager everyone can believe in. Bury's own 'Chosen One'
Well said, Mr Day has done evrything to make this club survive. I hold my hands up and say he may have been a bit niave and bought KB's Bull**** and of course spending money and bringing players in like a druken sailor.

I do see whay he appointed Ronnie, team knows hi etc. However, we must beat Northampton, beat Plymouth and get 6 points in addition before Jan 1. Anything less and Ronnie needs to do the right thing.

There are plenty around who may be able to shape this team and get us into the top half.
[quote][p][bold]RONNIEJAWS[/bold] wrote: I tend to agree with Lisasmit. It can be very unfair of fans to either critisize for not spending more, or demanding Mr. Day spends more. He has already invested a great deal, and found lots more the old board had tried to forget in a drawer somewhere. The only thing I have constantly suggested from day one after KB is we find the best man for manager ASAP. Plus, to be overly economic on such a major appointment is a very very false economy after you have already made a major investment. We all know this needs a complete rebuilding. But to get the revolution back on track, and the fans all behind it, they need a manager everyone can believe in. Bury's own 'Chosen One'[/p][/quote]Well said, Mr Day has done evrything to make this club survive. I hold my hands up and say he may have been a bit niave and bought KB's Bull**** and of course spending money and bringing players in like a druken sailor. I do see whay he appointed Ronnie, team knows hi etc. However, we must beat Northampton, beat Plymouth and get 6 points in addition before Jan 1. Anything less and Ronnie needs to do the right thing. There are plenty around who may be able to shape this team and get us into the top half. easylife44

7:27pm Mon 9 Dec 13

easylife44 says...

Having a quick look over the fixtures between now and January 1. We have three home games Northampton, Scunny and York. Minumum 7 Points. Two away Plymouth and Hartlepool....minimu
m 4 points.

If his cannot be achieved, Mr. Day I am sure will make a tough decision.
Having a quick look over the fixtures between now and January 1. We have three home games Northampton, Scunny and York. Minumum 7 Points. Two away Plymouth and Hartlepool....minimu m 4 points. If his cannot be achieved, Mr. Day I am sure will make a tough decision. easylife44

9:48pm Mon 9 Dec 13

Lisasmit says...

David Flitcroft appointed as manager. Check out www.newsnow, bury fc
David Flitcroft appointed as manager. Check out www.newsnow, bury fc Lisasmit

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