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Whites boss apologises to fans
6:35am Wednesday 7th May 2008
Comments (99)GARY Megson has apologised to supporters who were upset that they were denied the traditional end-of-season "lap of honour".
The Wanderers players saluted the crowd individually after they signed off with a crucial 2-0 victory over Sunderland, but there was no organised salute - as there has been in previous years - which has led to complaints from some fans.
Megson said it was inappropriate to celebrate when they were still not mathematically safe from the threat of relegation, but insisted it was not intended as a "slight" on the fans.
"The supporters here are very much appreciated by myself, the staff and the players, and I apologise on behalf of everybody," he said. "But I'm sure they understand there is still work to be done."
Of the lack of an organised celebration to mark the end of the season, he said: "These things have to be planned. Players stayed about afterwards but, we are where we are, and there's nothing to be charging round the pitch about. Everybody will be pleased if we can stay in this division, but it's not over yet."
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YouriLeGod, Bolton says...
7:39am Wed 7 May 08
Players chose to do it themselves, that's not a problem. They know what the situation is regarding contracts.
One thing that might have been an idea would have been to announce it over the tannoy that none would take place, apart from the fact we had no sound from it in the East Stand on Saturday.
On another note. Has anyone seen that Sky are placing all emphasis on Wigan getting beaten on Sunday and taking it as a certainty that we will lose to Chelsea.
Mik, Wonderland says...
8:14am Wed 7 May 08
Shame on our manager and directors for not insisting it was held.
davie, leigh says...
8:17am Wed 7 May 08
They have not lost at home since the Fall of France.
All Bolton will do is put 10 men behind the ball and hope keep the score down.
Its got 2-0 written all over it.
Jon W, westhoughton says...
8:59am Wed 7 May 08
trotters1964 wrote:I said on another thread yesterday they couldnt win on this one and they couldnt. If we had lost to Sunderland did anyone seriously expect 1. The players to walk round the pitch taking the acclaim of the fans and 2. Any fans to still be left in the ground except those that were chanting Gartside/Megson out? Some people just want to whinge for whingeing's sake. Re Colin Harvey. Is there any law against appointing someone you have worked with in the past? Nobody complained about BSA appointing Phil Brown or Jimmy Phillips etc etc, but if you win a few games you can do what you want, if you dont whatever you do is wrong.
to be honest he has a point, however it was yet another pr clanger, have you thought about appointing 'max clifford' (on second thoughts), as i'm well known for being against megson, i'd like to back it up with facts, as a rule over a career wins and losses well outweigh draws, however in megsons managerial career and consistantly throughout i may add, he has drawn matches, in fact such a draw specialist is he that he may reach 200 draws in his managerial career before he reaches 200 wins, a remarkable if somewhat boring achievement. stats can lie but i think this is another pointer, or should i say one pointer towards the football we should expect. another comment on another thread refers to colin harveys appointment, is he still there and what does he do, i thought he'd retired years ago, colin harvey was a first class assistant and manager in the 80's and 90's he has never been a chief scout, again smacks of nepotism as megson probably played when harvey was around at everton, so no doubt is returning some favour, dont know what he does and havent even heard nowt from him, no doubt he will be taking credit for all our signings and blaming bsa and lsl for the ones he doesnt make, bsa appointed a lot of unknowns but they were based on talent to do specialist jobs, i know we had one of the biggest backroom staffs in the history of football! but it worked, appoint talent create talent!
Chris Manning, Gotham City PD, says...
9:24am Wed 7 May 08
Maybe a lap of 'appreciation' to the fans would have been a better bet, especially us idiots who spent a bomb going to Lisbon to watch the stiffs.....
REAP WHAT U SO, Bradley Fold says...
9:43am Wed 7 May 08
matty_c, Bolton says...
10:21am Wed 7 May 08
matty_c, Bolton says...
10:33am Wed 7 May 08
YouriLeGod wrote:we should have done a lap of honour if for no other reason than to let the players leaving in the summer say goodbye like we should have allowed okocha, djorkaeff and ngotty. not surprised they believe we're going to get beat wigans pitch is a dump which gives them an edge over man utd while chelsea havent lost at home in a while.
Would agree there was no cause to do it. Escaping relegation at the end of the season is not cause for a lap of honour. Players chose to do it themselves, that's not a problem. They know what the situation is regarding contracts. One thing that might have been an idea would have been to announce it over the tannoy that none would take place, apart from the fact we had no sound from it in the East Stand on Saturday. On another note. Has anyone seen that Sky are placing all emphasis on Wigan getting beaten on Sunday and taking it as a certainty that we will lose to Chelsea.
Carole Bates, Bolton says...
10:43am Wed 7 May 08
Horwich Allstars, Horwich says...
10:54am Wed 7 May 08
The PA system not working was a real pain... no idea what was going on. What if there had been a safety announcement?
Bring back the fireworks at the start of the match....might bring us a bit of luck :-)
John Byrom, Bolton says...
10:59am Wed 7 May 08
John Byrom, Bolton says...
11:04am Wed 7 May 08
charlie, wigan says...
11:14am Wed 7 May 08
Horwich Allstars wrote:Any idea why the fireworks were stopped?
They should have done the lap on Sunday. It's a way of the players saying thatkyou to the fans...they should be more appreciative this year, as we have stuck by them through a series of pretty poor performances. The PA system not working was a real pain... no idea what was going on. What if there had been a safety announcement? Bring back the fireworks at the start of the match....might bring us a bit of luck :-)
Chris Manning, Gotham City PD, says...
11:16am Wed 7 May 08
charlie, wigan says...
11:26am Wed 7 May 08
Chris Manning, Gotham City PD wrote:Really? Surely things arent that bad
money
hierro, Bolton says...
11:33am Wed 7 May 08
Horwich Allstars wrote:bring back the fireworks !! they are about as much of a spectacle as a gary megson interview. and as much value for money as Daniel Braaten.
They should have done the lap on Sunday. It's a way of the players saying thatkyou to the fans...they should be more appreciative this year, as we have stuck by them through a series of pretty poor performances. The PA system not working was a real pain... no idea what was going on. What if there had been a safety announcement? Bring back the fireworks at the start of the match....might bring us a bit of luck :-)
saudi wanderer, Aspull says...
11:41am Wed 7 May 08
Horwich Allstars, Horwich says...
11:42am Wed 7 May 08
Apart from that, how much do a few fireworks cost? probably less than it's costs them to wine and dine our local councillers before the match
billyblackpool, blackpool says...
11:43am Wed 7 May 08
trotters1964 wrote:Dont know your source for your facts trotters1964 but according to this source ( a quite reliable one)http://www.socce
to be honest he has a point, however it was yet another pr clanger, have you thought about appointing 'max clifford' (on second thoughts), as i'm well known for being against megson, i'd like to back it up with facts, as a rule over a career wins and losses well outweigh draws, however in megsons managerial career and consistantly throughout i may add, he has drawn matches, in fact such a draw specialist is he that he may reach 200 draws in his managerial career before he reaches 200 wins, a remarkable if somewhat boring achievement. stats can lie but i think this is another pointer, or should i say one pointer towards the football we should expect. another comment on another thread refers to colin harveys appointment, is he still there and what does he do, i thought he'd retired years ago, colin harvey was a first class assistant and manager in the 80's and 90's he has never been a chief scout, again smacks of nepotism as megson probably played when harvey was around at everton, so no doubt is returning some favour, dont know what he does and havent even heard nowt from him, no doubt he will be taking credit for all our signings and blaming bsa and lsl for the ones he doesnt make, bsa appointed a lot of unknowns but they were based on talent to do specialist jobs, i know we had one of the biggest backroom staffs in the history of football! but it worked, appoint talent create talent!
rbase.com/managers2.
sd?managerid=482
194 Games Won 141 Games Drawn
Lord Lucan, Somewhere says...
11:59am Wed 7 May 08
Amazingly his managerial career win ratio is not hugely different from many of his contemporaries - but about 10% worse than Allardyce. His managerial "hatred from the fans" ratio MUST be a lot higher. Only Nolan hugged him on Saturday, so I don't think that the team think too much of him either.
andy, London says...
12:13pm Wed 7 May 08
The firworks were stopped in the wake of a Wolves fan being hit in the face by one at Molineux.
If part tim esupporters want to say goodbye to the heroes like Campo, Jussi and Stelios, they've had plenty of opportunities.
But the ground's been half full for most of the season so you can't complain now.
Being a fan is supposed to cost you something. You don't just turn up on the last day of the season, have a sing song in the sun and then demand the right to spout forth innaccurate opinions on here.
fernando, bolton says...
12:19pm Wed 7 May 08
That could only be improved by a Chelski win in Moscow as well. Happy days.
Horwich Allstars, Horwich says...
12:23pm Wed 7 May 08
I have been to all of the matches this year - and don't jsut turn up on the last day for a sing-a-long.
The walkround just about me saying goodbye to players..it's about the players and the manager thanking me for coughing up £450 per season for my ticket & many hours of my time (not to mention money spent on shirts,Golden Gamble etc).
I don't think 15 minutes of thier time is too much to ask.
davie, leigh says...
12:29pm Wed 7 May 08
So anyone to score after 89mins.
Hopefully a Diouf own goal were he beats 3 defenders and smashes the ball into the top corner.
andy, London says...
12:30pm Wed 7 May 08
Anyone who wants Bolton to lose is not a fan. End of story.
andy, London says...
12:33pm Wed 7 May 08
Anyone who wants Bolton to lose is not a fan. End of story.
Jon W, westhoughton says...
12:39pm Wed 7 May 08
Carole Bates wrote:How can we do a formal goodbye to these players, who says they are leaving? If Jussi or Stelios have agreed to join another club they could have let us know! And if Megson has no intention of offering them another contract, it might be irrelevant, who says Megson will still be here? I live in hope that Megson goes and the new manager sees sense and gives Stelios another 2 year deal. He is as fit and impressive as Gary Speed was at the same age, certainly fitter than a lot of players in the team who are younger than him. I'm not sure why we would say "bye" to Diouff when he is under contract and I would be surprised if anyone came in with a high enough bid (£5 mil plus?). It just seems inappropriate to be waving off players that we would prefer to keep.
I agree with Matty - we should have been able to say goodbye to Dioufy, Jussi, Stelios etc. They have been good for our club. I felt aggrieved when we didn't get to say goodbye to Jay Jay. I know we have not much to be proud of this year or much to celebrate its not a lap of honour its a thank you to the fans who have stuck around.
Jon W, westhoughton says...
12:45pm Wed 7 May 08
charlie wrote:Someone saw sense I would hope. Same as the chaps with the flags, the embarrassing "I feel good" after goals and the cacophany of noise from about 2.50 to 2.59 every match. There have been a lot of mistakes made this season, but credit where its due, I would hope this could be put down to listening to the fans. Its almost becoming a pleasure to attend the Reebok these days, the only embarrassment is Megson's team selection but at least its improving off the pitch.
Horwich Allstars wrote: They should have done the lap on Sunday. It's a way of the players saying thatkyou to the fans...they should be more appreciative this year, as we have stuck by them through a series of pretty poor performances. The PA system not working was a real pain... no idea what was going on. What if there had been a safety announcement? Bring back the fireworks at the start of the match....might bring us a bit of luck :-)Any idea why the fireworks were stopped?
Brak, Bolton says...
12:45pm Wed 7 May 08
we are where we are,
And secondly, we were all expecting some sort of acknowledgment from the players - nothing to do with laps of honour. It's just an opportunity to say goodbyes and see out what has been a terrible season.
Thirdly, no point entertaining people like andy from London as he has no way of knowing who goes to every game or not! Yawn!
Carl_XVI_Gustaf, Sverige says...
12:56pm Wed 7 May 08
andy wrote:Are you retarded?
Some people just make up lies to justify their irratioanl hatred of Megson and the board. The firworks were stopped in the wake of a Wolves fan being hit in the face by one at Molineux. If part tim esupporters want to say goodbye to the heroes like Campo, Jussi and Stelios, they've had plenty of opportunities. But the ground's been half full for most of the season so you can't complain now. Being a fan is supposed to cost you something. You don't just turn up on the last day of the season, have a sing song in the sun and then demand the right to spout forth innaccurate opinions on here.
hierro, Bolton says...
12:57pm Wed 7 May 08
hierro, Bolton says...
1:01pm Wed 7 May 08
the new bolton kit will be unveiled tommorow and it will be worn for the first time against chelsea on sunday. the new kit is made by adidas and is simmilar to derbys kit this season. with dark blue instead of black (obviously) it has "the trotters" stitched into the back @ the neck. the sponsor for next 2 seasons is "boddingtons" which is in red text across the front. the kit will be available to buy from 12/05/08.
the away kit is green with white piping again with the "trotters stiched on the back, and no release date is confirmed yet. the adidas deal is for 3 years with the away kit changing each season and the home remaining the same for the 1st 2 seasons.
Jon W, westhoughton says...
1:02pm Wed 7 May 08
Horwich Allstars wrote:Each to their own but I cant believe any self respecting BW fans werent embarrassed by the music that was played after we scored. I cringed when we were lucky enough to score on Match of the Day etc. At the time they could play Glory Glory Man Utd and I wouldnt care due to the thrill of scoring, but when you see re-runs - NO!! Music is only played at small clubs, and I dont want us advertising the fact that we are small time. Ditto the Very Very Loud music played over the PA System at 2.50 to 3.00 every match - I think that has mercifully been toned down - and the chaps waving the flags (God I've had stick for that from fans of other clubs). I just dont get all this razzmattazz. But credit where its due, the club appears to have acted on feedback on this - or was I the only one using every opportunity I got to tell the club where they could shove the fireworks/music/flag
I think that the fireworks (and the music when the goals were scored) where stopped in order to usher in a new era. I quite enjoyed having a sing along to Amirillo (or whatever) when we scored a goal. They can't have stopped the music due to finances. Apart from that, how much do a few fireworks cost? probably less than it's costs them to wine and dine our local councillers before the match
s?
andy, London says...
1:07pm Wed 7 May 08
hierro, Bolton says...
1:09pm Wed 7 May 08
andy, London says...
1:25pm Wed 7 May 08
andy wrote:
Some people just make up lies to justify their irratioanl hatred of Megson and the board. The firworks were stopped in the wake of a Wolves fan being hit in the face by one at Molineux. If part tim esupporters want to say goodbye to the heroes like Campo, Jussi and Stelios, they've had plenty of opportunities. But the ground's been half full for most of the season so you can't complain now. Being a fan is supposed to cost you something. You don't just turn up on the last day of the season, have a sing song in the sun and then demand the right to spout forth innaccurate opinions on here.
Are you retarded?
No mate. I'm a realistic, committed Bolton fan. Unlike most fair weather moaners on here.
Steven Williams, says...
1:30pm Wed 7 May 08
Carl_XVI_Gustaf wrote:I fail to understand why you would post this in reply to andy's perfectly reasonable message.
andy wrote: Some people just make up lies to justify their irratioanl hatred of Megson and the board. The firworks were stopped in the wake of a Wolves fan being hit in the face by one at Molineux. If part tim esupporters want to say goodbye to the heroes like Campo, Jussi and Stelios, they've had plenty of opportunities. But the ground's been half full for most of the season so you can't complain now. Being a fan is supposed to cost you something. You don't just turn up on the last day of the season, have a sing song in the sun and then demand the right to spout forth innaccurate opinions on here.Are you retarded?
I know things havent worked out for some of the you on here, what with us not getting relegated and everything, but there is really no need for personal abuse, it just suggests that you are unable to articulate disagreement in an appropriate way.
Must have been a tough weekend for some of you I suppose...
birch, chorley says...
1:46pm Wed 7 May 08
andy wrote:SILLY BOY ANDY, IF YOU WANT MAN UTD TO WIN THE LEAGUE THEN YOU ARE NOT A BOLTON FAN!
Silly boy fernando. If you want Bolton to lose, you're not a Bolton fan.
I WOULD HAPPILY ROLE OVER ON SUNDAY IF IT WAS FOR SUCH A GREATER GOOD!
steve, Daubhill says...
1:48pm Wed 7 May 08
Also, I wish they'd revert back to navy shorts instead of all white - that was the kit when I first went to the games in the 60s and much more traditional.
BWFC - TIL - I - DIE, BOLTON says...
1:51pm Wed 7 May 08
Andy, Staffordshire says...
1:54pm Wed 7 May 08
Would that be when that famous Corsican Henrik Bonaparte stormed past Terry into the Tuilleries? "Not tonight, Johnterri"
Only one Andy Walker, London says...
1:56pm Wed 7 May 08
http://www.tribalfoo
tball.com/article.ph
p?id=91625
TOLD YOU ALL! MEGSON = CRAP CHAMPIONSHIP PLAYER AND RELEGATION.
IS THAT WHAT YOU ALL WANT! HIS AMBITIONS ARE VERY LOW. HE THINKS HE'S DONE WELL KEEPING US UP.
WE'VE BEEN ATOP 10 TEAM FOR THE LAST FOUR YEARS.
DO WE REALLY WANT THIS IDIOT AS MANAGER. CLUELESS MEGSON.
BWFC - TIL - I - DIE, BOLTON says...
2:07pm Wed 7 May 08
Andy wrote:ok, 1 point then
They have not lost at home since the Fall of France Would that be when that famous Corsican Henrik Bonaparte stormed past Terry into the Tuilleries? "Not tonight, Johnterri"
Snout, Bolton says...
2:09pm Wed 7 May 08
breezeblock, Manchester says...
2:11pm Wed 7 May 08
on and, on says...
2:48pm Wed 7 May 08
Snout wrote:how about if they read it on the bbc website?
Anyone believing what they read on Tribal is retarded.
concerning the lap of honor issue ...sure it's not really a lap of honor is it if we manage to stay up by the skin of our teeth but surely the fans would appreciate a chance to say thanks, goodbye or whatever with the players irrespective of relegation or survival issues.
hierro, Bolton says...
2:57pm Wed 7 May 08
franky worthy, corkscrewing terry butcher into the burnden turf says...
3:12pm Wed 7 May 08
spot on steve ive been saying the same thing for ages now,why were at it lets bring back the old club badge aswell,instead of this one it looks like a balloon with them ribbon things??
birch, chorley says...
3:41pm Wed 7 May 08
BWFC - TIL - I - DIE wrote:I would rather lose a leg than have the rags win anything! The european cup even more so!
personally i couldnt give a poo who wins the league if it meant us getting 3 pts at stamford bridge!!!!
I remember last time they played Bayern in the final, we where at gresty road the night before for the re arranged tie with crew and i had my bayern flag waving high!
I am a converted Chelsea fan for the next 2 weeks! COME ON CHELSEA!
andy, London says...
3:50pm Wed 7 May 08
Their owner is a shady scumbag. Their manager hates the small clubs. Their fans don't come from their local area. They're wrecking football by paying huge prices.
So why exactly should I be desparate to see my side lose to them, even when we're not safe?
Carl_XVI_Gustaf, Sverige says...
4:09pm Wed 7 May 08
Only one Andy Walker, London says...
4:14pm Wed 7 May 08
Snout wrote:I must be a retard then.
Anyone believing what they read on Tribal is retarded.
I would not put it past Megson. He doesn't really have any good football contacts and is strictly championship or even lower management material.
I Love BWFC, I don't want another year of megson management.
How far will we fall under megson?
birch, chorley says...
4:15pm Wed 7 May 08
andy wrote:granted i wouldnt want us to go down! but if their is no chance of us going up or down a position i would go for any team in the world over united! Our hatred for the rags goes back years and i for one will continue it!!!
Chelsea are every bit as bad as United in every way. Their owner is a shady scumbag. Their manager hates the small clubs. Their fans don't come from their local area. They're wrecking football by paying huge prices. So why exactly should I be desparate to see my side lose to them, even when we're not safe?
Only one Andy Walker, London says...
4:30pm Wed 7 May 08
I personally would have like to thank Campo, stellios, jussi and diouf if they are to leave at the end of the season. They have all played their part in some of the best years of BWFC.
djdaveeo, Banbury says...
4:42pm Wed 7 May 08
f, bolton says...
5:13pm Wed 7 May 08
As for signings, I'm no fan of Mr Megson but he's not done badly so far. That said, I hope he buys a forward or three! :)
birch, chorley says...
5:36pm Wed 7 May 08
f wrote:i would like to see reebok staying on! obviously for the right money!
Not sure about the kit story. As far as I remember, the current deal lasts until next year and a provisional extension was agreed until 2016 in line with stadium naming rights... As for signings, I'm no fan of Mr Megson but he's not done badly so far. That said, I hope he buys a forward or three! :)
andy, London says...
6:13pm Wed 7 May 08
hierro, Bolton says...
6:19pm Wed 7 May 08
andy wrote:andy - you are in a proper bad mood today aren't you - I posted the stuff about the new kit launch - it wasn't a joke but something I picked up off the BBC, I don't know whether or not it's true but ADIDAS own Reebok and it would explain why the shirts are currently on sale.
The kit sponsor isn't changing. It was yet another funny joke from the comedy characters who grace this message board.
matty_c, Bolton says...
6:26pm Wed 7 May 08
trotters1964, preston says...
6:47am Wed 7 May 08