I HAVE just had an interesting conversation with a group of males I know about "models turned something or other" Abi Titmuss and Jodie Marsh.

Their opinion, although these are not the only words they used and I have left out several adjectives, was that Miss Titmuss is "fit" and Miss Marsh is a bit too "basic."

Both, you may or may not know (or care), specialise in appearing in small amounts of clothing in public and are renowned for saucy poses and sexy soundbites.

I disagreed.

I thought they were both just nonentities whose talent would fade with their looks.

But I have just paraphrased that as well.