Travellers moved from council car park set up camp in other parts of Radcliffe

The Bolton News: Travellers camps in other areas of Radcliffe Travellers camps in other areas of Radcliffe

TRAVELLERS who were moved from a council car park near the former East Lancashire Paper Mill site have now set up camp in other areas of Radcliffe.

Yesterday (March 20) caravans were seen on the site of the old Kwik Save in Foundry Street, near the market hall and in the car park in Close Park.

The travellers were previously camped in a council-owned car park in Church Street East, near the now-derelict Papermakers Arms pub, but were served notices by the council to leave by last Wednesday (March 19).

The Kwik Save site is the proposed site for a supermarket retail scheme to be completed by February 2016 as part of Bury Council’s regeneration plans for the town.

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10:36am Fri 21 Mar 14

lv8151 says...

caravans and caravan windows are expensive ..... bricks and stones are freely available lying on the ground ... if they decided to invade my space i would put the 2 together
caravans and caravan windows are expensive ..... bricks and stones are freely available lying on the ground ... if they decided to invade my space i would put the 2 together lv8151
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11:04am Fri 21 Mar 14

boltonnut says...

lv8151 wrote:
caravans and caravan windows are expensive ..... bricks and stones are freely available lying on the ground ... if they decided to invade my space i would put the 2 together
Surely Iv8151, you mean you would deprive these poor traveling s -tinkers the right to steal,destroy and defacate on public property.Shame on you...not.
[quote][p][bold]lv8151[/bold] wrote: caravans and caravan windows are expensive ..... bricks and stones are freely available lying on the ground ... if they decided to invade my space i would put the 2 together[/p][/quote]Surely Iv8151, you mean you would deprive these poor traveling s -tinkers the right to steal,destroy and defacate on public property.Shame on you...not. boltonnut
  • Score: 28

12:27pm Fri 21 Mar 14

Beyond News Forum says...

Funny how the council can quickly move them on from their own land.
Funny how the council can quickly move them on from their own land. Beyond News Forum
  • Score: 18

3:42pm Fri 21 Mar 14

JustBecause says...

lv8151 wrote:
caravans and caravan windows are expensive ..... bricks and stones are freely available lying on the ground ... if they decided to invade my space i would put the 2 together
No you wouldn't !
[quote][p][bold]lv8151[/bold] wrote: caravans and caravan windows are expensive ..... bricks and stones are freely available lying on the ground ... if they decided to invade my space i would put the 2 together[/p][/quote]No you wouldn't ! JustBecause
  • Score: -9

3:44pm Fri 21 Mar 14

JustBecause says...

Beyond News Forum wrote:
Funny how the council can quickly move them on from their own land.
I am assuming your point is that the council do nothing about moving them off private land ? which has nothing to do with the council.
[quote][p][bold]Beyond News Forum[/bold] wrote: Funny how the council can quickly move them on from their own land.[/p][/quote]I am assuming your point is that the council do nothing about moving them off private land ? which has nothing to do with the council. JustBecause
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3:51pm Fri 21 Mar 14

Beyond News Forum says...

JustBecause wrote:
Beyond News Forum wrote:
Funny how the council can quickly move them on from their own land.
I am assuming your point is that the council do nothing about moving them off private land ? which has nothing to do with the council.
Actually yes it does. It is a legal requirement of the law and the council to process the relevant documents.

Clever d!ck http://www.bolton.go
v.uk/sites/documentc
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[quote][p][bold]JustBecause[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Beyond News Forum[/bold] wrote: Funny how the council can quickly move them on from their own land.[/p][/quote]I am assuming your point is that the council do nothing about moving them off private land ? which has nothing to do with the council.[/p][/quote]Actually yes it does. It is a legal requirement of the law and the council to process the relevant documents. Clever d!ck http://www.bolton.go v.uk/sites/documentc entre/Documents/Unau thorised%20Encampmen t%20Policy.pdf Beyond News Forum
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3:52pm Fri 21 Mar 14

Beyond News Forum says...

Although Bolton M
BC operate a toleration policy in line with
Government guidance, in reality due to the shortage of suitable land in
Bolton, illegal encampments are very rarely tolerated.
1.
Visit travellers and inform them of Bolton MBC's willingness to
accommodate the
m for a short period (3 weeks) on a tolerated, but
unauthorised site; subject to terms and conditions as set out in
policy document.
2.
Obtain details of each family and length and reason for stay.
3.
Consider arranging skips, toilets etc. Consideration
especially to be
made of taking deposits in relation to toilets, which can be easily
stolen.
4.
Collect £50.00 per family to pay for toilets etc. and issue receipts.
5.
Supply Social Services; Education and Health of any concerns or
requests to do so.
6.
Any further arrivals will be dealt with similar to above.
7.
Where required serve seven day notices on day 14 to all occupants.
8.
If any traveller remains on site after this period, commence normal
removal proceedings as per illegal, untolerated enca
mpments.
9.
If after obtaining relevant court orders and issue of same, travellers
have still not moved, arrange tow trucks and Police presence.
Forcibly remove trespassers as required.
10.
Those families on whom court proceedings have been taken may
no
t be considered for "toleration" in the future
Although Bolton M BC operate a toleration policy in line with Government guidance, in reality due to the shortage of suitable land in Bolton, illegal encampments are very rarely tolerated. 1. Visit travellers and inform them of Bolton MBC's willingness to accommodate the m for a short period (3 weeks) on a tolerated, but unauthorised site; subject to terms and conditions as set out in policy document. 2. Obtain details of each family and length and reason for stay. 3. Consider arranging skips, toilets etc. Consideration especially to be made of taking deposits in relation to toilets, which can be easily stolen. 4. Collect £50.00 per family to pay for toilets etc. and issue receipts. 5. Supply Social Services; Education and Health of any concerns or requests to do so. 6. Any further arrivals will be dealt with similar to above. 7. Where required serve seven day notices on day 14 to all occupants. 8. If any traveller remains on site after this period, commence normal removal proceedings as per illegal, untolerated enca mpments. 9. If after obtaining relevant court orders and issue of same, travellers have still not moved, arrange tow trucks and Police presence. Forcibly remove trespassers as required. 10. Those families on whom court proceedings have been taken may no t be considered for "toleration" in the future Beyond News Forum
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3:53pm Fri 21 Mar 14

lv8151 says...

JustBecause wrote:
lv8151 wrote:
caravans and caravan windows are expensive ..... bricks and stones are freely available lying on the ground ... if they decided to invade my space i would put the 2 together
No you wouldn't !
i think you'll find "yes i would" to be the right answer .... as everyone that knows me would agree i would .... how would you deal with it ? .... you are one of the sort that would just put up with it i suppose ..... if every time they camped illegally people took it out on their caravans they would soon get more particular as to where they pitched their vans
[quote][p][bold]JustBecause[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lv8151[/bold] wrote: caravans and caravan windows are expensive ..... bricks and stones are freely available lying on the ground ... if they decided to invade my space i would put the 2 together[/p][/quote]No you wouldn't ![/p][/quote]i think you'll find "yes i would" to be the right answer .... as everyone that knows me would agree i would .... how would you deal with it ? .... you are one of the sort that would just put up with it i suppose ..... if every time they camped illegally people took it out on their caravans they would soon get more particular as to where they pitched their vans lv8151
  • Score: 10

3:54pm Fri 21 Mar 14

Beyond News Forum says...

^^^Human Rights!

But again the human rights of the victims are disproportionately accommodated.
^^^Human Rights! But again the human rights of the victims are disproportionately accommodated. Beyond News Forum
  • Score: 7

6:30pm Fri 21 Mar 14

marco999 says...

I have to pay my bills like anyone else. Mortgage, council tax, utilities etc. How do these 'travellers' keep getting away with paying nothing into society yet expect to live wherever they choose, do whatever they choose and leave all their filth behind them every time they move on? If they decide that the 'traveller' life is for them then they should be be taxed a special traveller rate. They should be registered with the council and all the other relevant authorities so they can be traced and made to pay into society like the rest of us poor saps.
I have to pay my bills like anyone else. Mortgage, council tax, utilities etc. How do these 'travellers' keep getting away with paying nothing into society yet expect to live wherever they choose, do whatever they choose and leave all their filth behind them every time they move on? If they decide that the 'traveller' life is for them then they should be be taxed a special traveller rate. They should be registered with the council and all the other relevant authorities so they can be traced and made to pay into society like the rest of us poor saps. marco999
  • Score: 14

7:25pm Fri 21 Mar 14

bwfc58 says...

And this is why I will be voting for UKIP from now on and UKIP will stop these and Any other Travellers from parking there Caravans anywhere they like FACT
And this is why I will be voting for UKIP from now on and UKIP will stop these and Any other Travellers from parking there Caravans anywhere they like FACT bwfc58
  • Score: 15

8:17pm Sat 22 Mar 14

sense2 says...

Travellers always leave a mess behind them that can cost thousands of pounds to put right and are never chased for the cost . A simple solution is to seize some of caravans and hold them until they have paid for everything to be put right. If they don't pay then you sell them off to cover your cost.
Travellers always leave a mess behind them that can cost thousands of pounds to put right and are never chased for the cost . A simple solution is to seize some of caravans and hold them until they have paid for everything to be put right. If they don't pay then you sell them off to cover your cost. sense2
  • Score: 4

1:16pm Mon 24 Mar 14

Buryboy1986 says...

lv8151 wrote:
JustBecause wrote:
lv8151 wrote:
caravans and caravan windows are expensive ..... bricks and stones are freely available lying on the ground ... if they decided to invade my space i would put the 2 together
No you wouldn't !
i think you'll find "yes i would" to be the right answer .... as everyone that knows me would agree i would .... how would you deal with it ? .... you are one of the sort that would just put up with it i suppose ..... if every time they camped illegally people took it out on their caravans they would soon get more particular as to where they pitched their vans
Iv8151 -
I completely agree with you. The Law does nothing about it so sometimes we have to 'persuade' them ourselves.
[quote][p][bold]lv8151[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JustBecause[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lv8151[/bold] wrote: caravans and caravan windows are expensive ..... bricks and stones are freely available lying on the ground ... if they decided to invade my space i would put the 2 together[/p][/quote]No you wouldn't ![/p][/quote]i think you'll find "yes i would" to be the right answer .... as everyone that knows me would agree i would .... how would you deal with it ? .... you are one of the sort that would just put up with it i suppose ..... if every time they camped illegally people took it out on their caravans they would soon get more particular as to where they pitched their vans[/p][/quote]Iv8151 - I completely agree with you. The Law does nothing about it so sometimes we have to 'persuade' them ourselves. Buryboy1986
  • Score: 4

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