Plea to Accrington Arndale after girl’s fatal fall

Plea to Accrington Arndale after girl’s fatal fall

Plea to Accrington Arndale after girl’s fatal fall

First published in North West

A CORONER has called on a shopping centre to consider its rooftop car park safety following the death of a teenager.

Lauren Johnson, 17, is believed to have committed suicide when she fell between 80ft and 100ft from the Accrington Arndale, in Union Street.

Michael Singleton, coroner for Blackburn, Hyndburn and the Ribble Valley, said although Lauren, from Oswald-twistle, had tried suicide several times before, barriers on the car park might have prevented her from falling to her death.

He said: “I am aware that there have been a number of similar fatalities from that building over the last few years and in fact, on the last occasion, I had issued a report pointing out to Arndale Centre Holdings the fact of the deaths and inviting them to consider whether they should take steps to in any way possible prevent further occurrences.

“Clearly, I understand that a person who is determined to bring about their own demise will find a way of achieving that, but suicide needs two things. It needs intent and opportunity.

“What we need to be doing as a society is to reduce the opportunities, which is why I want the Arndale to consider whether they should put some railings in.

“I am not naive to think somebody is not capable of climbing over, but somebody whose intent wavers may have the opportunity for the intent to disappear whilst they contemplate how they are going to overcome hurdles.”

The coroner adjourned the hearing for a full inquest into Lauren’s death, which will take place in November or December at Oswald-twistle Town Hall.

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9:29am Fri 8 Aug 14

darwenTower says...

We should be appealing to the health service to provide better help for those who find themselves this depressed.

In the form of therapy rather than time stretched doctors handing out medication.
We should be appealing to the health service to provide better help for those who find themselves this depressed. In the form of therapy rather than time stretched doctors handing out medication. darwenTower
  • Score: 19

11:08am Fri 8 Aug 14

just_me_again says...

Complex case CBT therapy is what's needed, this young girl was let down by mental health services (her mother is a psychiatric nurse / mental health nurse by the way) not by the owners of the multi storey car park.

I would have a coroner would have known better than to knee jerk react, the very high viaduct will be the next port of call for the next people to be let down.
Complex case CBT therapy is what's needed, this young girl was let down by mental health services (her mother is a psychiatric nurse / mental health nurse by the way) not by the owners of the multi storey car park. I would have a coroner would have known better than to knee jerk react, the very high viaduct will be the next port of call for the next people to be let down. just_me_again
  • Score: 13

12:16pm Fri 8 Aug 14

HelmshoreMan2010 says...

I agree with previous comments, the Arndale is just one of many places this could happen. Rather than focus attention on this and make it a scapegoat the mental health services need to be looked at and fast!
I agree with previous comments, the Arndale is just one of many places this could happen. Rather than focus attention on this and make it a scapegoat the mental health services need to be looked at and fast! HelmshoreMan2010
  • Score: 14

12:44pm Fri 8 Aug 14

Interlocutor says...

Certainly there will be room for improvement in mental health services. But it does not follow that the Arndale folks should take no action. Many people contemplating suicide will NOT have 'set their minds on it', they will be at a temporary peak of distress. That's why some hang around instead of jumping, and can often be talked down.

So a few thousand quid spent on railings or chicken wire might be enough to turn away at least SOME jumpers. Such measures have ALREADY been installed at the back of the car park, probably to prevent access from the shopping centre roof out of hours; and ground floor railings are visible in the picture above; so clearly it's readily possible.

(Incidentally, I don't think that car park can be "between 80ft and 100ft" high: it's only 6 or 7 floors.)
Certainly there will be room for improvement in mental health services. But it does not follow that the Arndale folks should take no action. Many people contemplating suicide will NOT have 'set their minds on it', they will be at a temporary peak of distress. That's why some hang around instead of jumping, and can often be talked down. So a few thousand quid spent on railings or chicken wire might be enough to turn away at least SOME jumpers. Such measures have ALREADY been installed at the back of the car park, probably to prevent access from the shopping centre roof out of hours; and ground floor railings are visible in the picture above; so clearly it's readily possible. (Incidentally, I don't think that car park can be "between 80ft and 100ft" high: it's only 6 or 7 floors.) Interlocutor
  • Score: -6

3:54pm Fri 8 Aug 14

sniper16 says...

I think it's because the lights have been switched off on the M65.
I think it's because the lights have been switched off on the M65. sniper16
  • Score: 0

8:32pm Fri 8 Aug 14

chammy says...

However tragic these suicides are,we cant keep putting railings up everywhere because they will go to other places if thats what they want to do,they will do it,a lot more people are killed by cars we dont ban cars,People need proper support and care if they got adequate care then i doubt they would feel the need to do such things.
However tragic these suicides are,we cant keep putting railings up everywhere because they will go to other places if thats what they want to do,they will do it,a lot more people are killed by cars we dont ban cars,People need proper support and care if they got adequate care then i doubt they would feel the need to do such things. chammy
  • Score: 7

10:01pm Fri 8 Aug 14

2 for 5p ridesagain says...

Thumbs me up if you really couldn't give a f***
Thumbs me up if you really couldn't give a f*** 2 for 5p ridesagain
  • Score: -10

1:07am Sat 9 Aug 14

ford10 says...

just_me_again wrote:
Complex case CBT therapy is what's needed, this young girl was let down by mental health services (her mother is a psychiatric nurse / mental health nurse by the way) not by the owners of the multi storey car park.

I would have a coroner would have known better than to knee jerk react, the very high viaduct will be the next port of call for the next people to be let down.
Her mother is a good Psychiatric Nurse by the way, being my boss i for one should know, it's not the Mental health services that are the problem but the government for cutting important services like Mental Health services, however preventative measures need to be used on that car park as a deterrent and as it has occurred there several times, and yes once you close one place down people will find other places and other forms of ideas to commit suicide
[quote][p][bold]just_me_again[/bold] wrote: Complex case CBT therapy is what's needed, this young girl was let down by mental health services (her mother is a psychiatric nurse / mental health nurse by the way) not by the owners of the multi storey car park. I would have a coroner would have known better than to knee jerk react, the very high viaduct will be the next port of call for the next people to be let down.[/p][/quote]Her mother is a good Psychiatric Nurse by the way, being my boss i for one should know, it's not the Mental health services that are the problem but the government for cutting important services like Mental Health services, however preventative measures need to be used on that car park as a deterrent and as it has occurred there several times, and yes once you close one place down people will find other places and other forms of ideas to commit suicide ford10
  • Score: 2

3:27am Sat 9 Aug 14

The Seagull has landed says...

2 for 5p ridesagain wrote:
Thumbs me up if you really couldn't give a f***
I'll let my thumbs do the talking in Blackburn town centre tomorrow.
[quote][p][bold]2 for 5p ridesagain[/bold] wrote: Thumbs me up if you really couldn't give a f***[/p][/quote]I'll let my thumbs do the talking in Blackburn town centre tomorrow. The Seagull has landed
  • Score: 4

12:48pm Sat 9 Aug 14

Mikeee47 says...

Manchester has an Arndale multi-storey car park, no one is throwing themselves off the top, Burnley has a multi story c/park, no one throwing themselves off the top.
It's not the carpark that's the problem,
These people will find somewhere else to jump from, what really annoys me is they always have to involve innocent members of the public, so selfish!
If your going to kill yourselves do it by yourselves in your own home and don't disrupt us from getting to and from work, No one wants to see human soup on the floor or smell the stink.
Manchester has an Arndale multi-storey car park, no one is throwing themselves off the top, Burnley has a multi story c/park, no one throwing themselves off the top. It's not the carpark that's the problem, These people will find somewhere else to jump from, what really annoys me is they always have to involve innocent members of the public, so selfish! If your going to kill yourselves do it by yourselves in your own home and don't disrupt us from getting to and from work, No one wants to see human soup on the floor or smell the stink. Mikeee47
  • Score: -3

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