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Swoop on fake clothes factory

3:59pm Wednesday 19th September 2007

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By Edward Chadwick »

COUNTERFEIT clothing worth more than £500,000 has been seized in raids on eBay traders.

Jackets, jeans, t-shirts, shorts and tracksuits which were branded with designer names - including Stone Island, North Face, Prada, Timberland and Armani - were found when police and Trading Standards officers swooped on three addresses.

Two storage units, one in Unsworth, Bury, and one in Worsley, as well as a house in Brandlesholme, Bury, were targeted in the operation last week.

A total of 4,000 fake items were found at the three properties and two men were arrested and later released on police bail.

Inspector Andy Sutcliffe said: "The production and sale of counterfeit goods is not a victimless crime, as it has a serious effect on the clothing industry.

"It also means that those who buy the goods are getting inferior products.

"We will continue to work closely with Trading Standards to clamp down on this major problem.

"In addition to stopping the sale of counterfeit goods, we aim to target those who produce the goods to cut off the supply at source."

The operation was mounted after an eBay trader offering hundreds of items of clothing on the internet auction site was traced to the area.

Cllr Keith Mann, of Salford Council, added: "This is a strong message that we will not tolerate this kind of underhand and illegitimate practice."

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Kerry, Little Lever says...
4:11pm Wed 19 Sep 07

And how can they be worth £500,000 if they are fake?

werty, bolton says...
4:13pm Wed 19 Sep 07

Talk of inferior products, did you know that cotton uses 10% of all arable land and 25% of the worlds fertilizers

Gloria, Bolton says...
4:13pm Wed 19 Sep 07

Think of it the other way....if the fakes are worth £500,000 what would the real ones have been worth.

steve, bolton says...
4:15pm Wed 19 Sep 07

That makes a refreshing change, Inspector Andy Sutcliffe making the point it has a serious effect on the clothing industry.We are usually fed a load of twaddle like "this activity is funded by organised crime gangs"

charmaine, tonge moor says...
4:21pm Wed 19 Sep 07

why dont they legalize this, i have bought loads of nock off gear but i cant afford to buy the real stuff, i have a baby, rent, food, nights out to pay for, if they made it legal this would solve the crime problem

Kerry, Little Lever says...
4:22pm Wed 19 Sep 07

£500,000 divided by a 'total of 4000 items' = £125 per item = not fake. This is police brutality!

dear anti yobs, breightmet says...
4:22pm Wed 19 Sep 07

i was wondering what happend to the armani jeans i bid on the other day on ebay i also raised a complaint just glad i never paid for them oh well some you win some you lose

charmaine, tonge moore says...
4:29pm Wed 19 Sep 07

dear anti yobs wrote:
i was wondering what happend to the armani jeans i bid on the other day on ebay i also raised a complaint just glad i never paid for them oh well some you win some you lose
dont worry, there are other places you can get fakes from aswell, my mate debbie's boyfriend jamal can get armani jeans for 20 quid, i think he lives in breightmet, do you want to meet him?

emma, bolton says...
4:29pm Wed 19 Sep 07

Inspector Andy Sutcliffe said: "The production and sale of counterfeit goods is not a victimless crime, as it has a serious effect on the clothing industry.

How my heart bleeds for them.
Have the clothing indusrty ever thought about the effects that advertising clothing and footwear costing 100's of pounds to the teenage market has on society.

emma, bolton says...
4:32pm Wed 19 Sep 07

Kerry wrote:
£500,000 divided by a 'total of 4000 items' = £125 per item = not fake. This is police brutality!
They could be the Stone Island jumpers though that cost 250 quid in the shops.

Kerry, Little Lever says...
4:37pm Wed 19 Sep 07

emma wrote:
Kerry wrote: £500,000 divided by a 'total of 4000 items' = £125 per item = not fake. This is police brutality!
They could be the Stone Island jumpers though that cost 250 quid in the shops.
They were, they were branded! That just shows how much the shops are robbing people if its true that they sell them for 250.

Druid, says...
4:38pm Wed 19 Sep 07

I wonder just what country "the clothing industry" is based in.
Hardly likely to be the U.K.

emma, bolton says...
4:40pm Wed 19 Sep 07

I think these people do a brilliant service for people with teenage kids who struggle to make end meet. Nike trainers 120 quid in JD's 20 quid exact same pair up Cheetham Hill. Who could moan about that?

emma, bolton says...
4:44pm Wed 19 Sep 07

Ha when I was a teenager 'Rockford' where the only snides you could get and nobody would wear them! How theyve improved.

King Kong, Bolton says...
5:26pm Wed 19 Sep 07

charmaine wrote:
why dont they legalize this, i have bought loads of nock off gear but i cant afford to buy the real stuff, i have a baby, rent, food, nights out to pay for, if they made it legal this would solve the crime problem
Unfortunately I cannot afford the real stuff or nights out, I work for a living and have a government to support!

BoltonBornNBred, Bolton says...
5:30pm Wed 19 Sep 07

I really don't hink much of wearing branded clothes, a pair of jeans from Asda at £5 is OK for me, a comment I hope charmaine will note.

On the other hand we own a couple of UK trade marks. We have an attorney who defends them. We have issued a licence for one company to use one of them.

The trade mark is goodwill based on a lot of costs, not least advertising.

We will not see any financial beneift from the licence for instance for years as the legal bills are huge.

Trade marks and branding costs a fortune, but can make millions. It's a pity people who cannot afford such products find they have to resort to buying fakes.

I wonder if the principle of the VW Beetle would ever work, a brand image long ago that proved such a success.

King Kong, Bolton says...
5:32pm Wed 19 Sep 07

Gloria wrote:
Think of it the other way....if the fakes are worth £500,000 what would the real ones have been worth.


I think they may base the value on the retail price of the authentic equivalent as they base the value of drug seizures on the street value, this is to make the story better!

Panzer, says...
5:54pm Wed 19 Sep 07

Most of these genuine designer clothes are made in the same third world sweatshops as say Asda's Clothes..... Who are the real gangsters in this ?

Chav's needn't worry the shops in Cheetham Hill are all fully stocked still.

BoltonBornNBred, Bolton says...
6:12pm Wed 19 Sep 07

Panzer given the price tags there would be a lot to be said for a massive import duty on such products, based in retail prices to encourage the products to be made here in the UK

One off ranges with a limited issue would be one thing but these are mass market product, there should be some penalty for overcharging, especially when the production costs are so low per unit.

Panzer, says...
6:16pm Wed 19 Sep 07

BoltonBornNBred wrote:
Panzer given the price tags there would be a lot to be said for a massive import duty on such products, based in retail prices to encourage the products to be made here in the UK One off ranges with a limited issue would be one thing but these are mass market product, there should be some penalty for overcharging, especially when the production costs are so low per unit.
Yeah I think these designer label Companies are nothing more than Racketeers.

I personally wear my Labels on the inside so doesn't affect me that much though I do think some of the designer Clothes are quite nice I just don't like the image of the people who wear them.

steve, bolton says...
6:50pm Wed 19 Sep 07

Should a public funded police force be protecting the multi million pound clothing industry.I'm sure many people could find real work for them.

Tom Thumb, Louisa Street says...
6:57pm Wed 19 Sep 07

werty wrote:
Talk of inferior products, did you know that cotton uses 10% of all arable land and 25% of the worlds fertilizers
Id rather have it on my sea island shorts than my organic tomatoes.

Tom Thumb, Louisa Street says...
6:59pm Wed 19 Sep 07

BoltonBornNBred wrote:
I really don't hink much of wearing branded clothes, a pair of jeans from Asda at £5 is OK for me, a comment I hope charmaine will note.

On the other hand we own a couple of UK trade marks. We have an attorney who defends them. We have issued a licence for one company to use one of them.

The trade mark is goodwill based on a lot of costs, not least advertising.

We will not see any financial beneift from the licence for instance for years as the legal bills are huge.

Trade marks and branding costs a fortune, but can make millions. It's a pity people who cannot afford such products find they have to resort to buying fakes.

I wonder if the principle of the VW Beetle would ever work, a brand image long ago that proved such a success.
£5 for jeans made by slaves in a third world country.

Hmmm.

They should label jeans as well as food.

supersaints, bolton says...
9:56am Thu 20 Sep 07

I see Boltons resident scrounger and chav charmaine is upset about this story!!! try getting a JOB!! any maybe you could afford so real clothes instead of fakes

supersaints, bolton says...
9:57am Thu 20 Sep 07

I see Boltons resident scrounger and chav charmaine is upset about this story!!! try getting a JOB!! any maybe you could afford so real clothes instead of fakes

inspector sucliffe, bolton says...
11:20am Thu 20 Sep 07

charmaine wrote:
dear anti yobs wrote: i was wondering what happend to the armani jeans i bid on the other day on ebay i also raised a complaint just glad i never paid for them oh well some you win some you lose
dont worry, there are other places you can get fakes from aswell, my mate debbie's boyfriend jamal can get armani jeans for 20 quid, i think he lives in breightmet, do you want to meet him?
I'd like to meet you both Charmaine.

lets have it right, darwen says...
12:25pm Thu 20 Sep 07

Tom Thumb wrote:
BoltonBornNBred wrote: I really don't hink much of wearing branded clothes, a pair of jeans from Asda at £5 is OK for me, a comment I hope charmaine will note. On the other hand we own a couple of UK trade marks. We have an attorney who defends them. We have issued a licence for one company to use one of them. The trade mark is goodwill based on a lot of costs, not least advertising. We will not see any financial beneift from the licence for instance for years as the legal bills are huge. Trade marks and branding costs a fortune, but can make millions. It's a pity people who cannot afford such products find they have to resort to buying fakes. I wonder if the principle of the VW Beetle would ever work, a brand image long ago that proved such a success.
£5 for jeans made by slaves in a third world country. Hmmm. They should label jeans as well as food.
the same third world country that the rest of the stuff is made
please tell me you dont think they pay the sweat shops any more because its real because if you do you need labelling as fool of the week
and by the way i wear jeans out of asda and have a job earning £60,000 a year clothes are clothes and you dont have to pay top wack for a namecos basically thats the only difference between asda and the expensive stuff

King Eric, . says...
1:15pm Thu 20 Sep 07

Charmaine ? Another WUM (wind up merchant) long passed its sell by date.
Cue.....

tosh, says...
1:16pm Thu 20 Sep 07

steve wrote:
Should a public funded police force be protecting the multi million pound clothing industry.I'm sure many people could find real work for them.
If the police can raid public houses to prevent football matches being shown,also on behalf of large multi national companies I think they can prevent Illegal goods being traded. Maybe funding the already considerable drugs trade in this country. I think that is real work!

steve, bolton says...
1:51pm Thu 20 Sep 07

tosh wrote:
steve wrote: Should a public funded police force be protecting the multi million pound clothing industry.I'm sure many people could find real work for them.
If the police can raid public houses to prevent football matches being shown,also on behalf of large multi national companies I think they can prevent Illegal goods being traded. Maybe funding the already considerable drugs trade in this country. I think that is real work!
You need to ask yourself - do i believe the police are involved because they think this activity is funding the drug and/or crime trade or are they doing it on Government instruction to protect big business and therefore considerable revenue in taxes?

tristancross70, southampton says...
12:52pm Sat 1 Mar 08

Hi iam new to this but let me just say i sell designer clothing but i still think its a rip off tesco make lovely clothes nowdays just without the label or price .And most of the tim counterfits dont add to the drugs trade average ppl can get them from china and sell them for a second income ,but yes its illegal and still shouldnt be done as it is ruining the industry but its not like the big manufacturers of designer clothes dont deserve it i mean i have had items reported that where genuine because the company did not want me to sell them

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