Three people killed in motorway horror smash were going to Bolton wedding attended by Amir Khan

TWO children and woman killed in a horror crash on Christmas day were travelling to a wedding attended by Amir Khan.

The two brothers named as Adnan Habib, 10, and Mohammed Arsalaan Habib, four, and a 32-year-old woman, named as Bushra Tazarib died following a crash in the northbound land of the M6 in Staffordshire between junctions 14, near Stafford, and 15, near Stoke-on-Trent, at about 11:25am.

All three were from High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, and were travelling to a family wedding in the Greater Manchester area, police said.

The mother of the boys, who was driving, survived the crash along with a relative, who was a passenger. Both were treated in hospital and have since been discharged.

The wedding took place at the Excellency Centre.

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10:21am Thu 27 Dec 12

bolton-born-n-bred says...

I married in Bolton on the 24th Dec and had traveled the same route from the south back to Bolton the day before, reading this is so sad and this must have been devastating and so heartbreaking. My thoughts are with the family and friends.
I married in Bolton on the 24th Dec and had traveled the same route from the south back to Bolton the day before, reading this is so sad and this must have been devastating and so heartbreaking. My thoughts are with the family and friends. bolton-born-n-bred
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1:42pm Thu 27 Dec 12

Hough64 says...

Very sad and tragic, it's bad enough when it happens but all the more upsetting on Christmas Day.
Very sad and tragic, it's bad enough when it happens but all the more upsetting on Christmas Day. Hough64
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2:44pm Thu 27 Dec 12

brian jones says...

Tragic indeed, but the fact that it was Christmas Day would have been of little relevance to them, as they were Muslims. In fact, it would be of little relevance to anyone. I don't think the grief you would suffer at the loss of your children would be any less at any other time of year.
Tragic indeed, but the fact that it was Christmas Day would have been of little relevance to them, as they were Muslims. In fact, it would be of little relevance to anyone. I don't think the grief you would suffer at the loss of your children would be any less at any other time of year. brian jones
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3:12pm Thu 27 Dec 12

zoomzam says...

Terrible news! The area around the M6 near Stoke is an accident black spot. Feel for the families.....
Terrible news! The area around the M6 near Stoke is an accident black spot. Feel for the families..... zoomzam
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5:16pm Thu 27 Dec 12

Brit moaner says...

Mustafa moan
SHUT IT !!!
Mustafa moan SHUT IT !!! Brit moaner
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5:29pm Thu 27 Dec 12

honkytonk1 says...

it does not matter what the lady was wearing its a sad time for the families and a little respect please should go out to them.
it must be the most horrendous feeling losing a family so sudden when they were on their way to a celebration.
may l express my condolence to all.
it does not matter what the lady was wearing its a sad time for the families and a little respect please should go out to them. it must be the most horrendous feeling losing a family so sudden when they were on their way to a celebration. may l express my condolence to all. honkytonk1
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6:12pm Thu 27 Dec 12

Hough64 says...

mustafa-moan wrote:
I believe she was wearing a niqab when the accident occurred, if this is the case then they should be banned whilst driving! I think the media are once again omiting very relevant details to hide the full truth!
And you know this fact how exactly?
[quote][p][bold]mustafa-moan[/bold] wrote: I believe she was wearing a niqab when the accident occurred, if this is the case then they should be banned whilst driving! I think the media are once again omiting very relevant details to hide the full truth![/p][/quote]And you know this fact how exactly? Hough64
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6:16pm Thu 27 Dec 12

Hough64 says...

mustafa-moan wrote:
My point is that maybe if she wasn't wearing the niqab then nobody would have died! I'm debating whether or not the niqab is a practical garment to wear whilst driving? Any opinions anyone?
Please tell us how you know this fact before asking opinions.
[quote][p][bold]mustafa-moan[/bold] wrote: My point is that maybe if she wasn't wearing the niqab then nobody would have died! I'm debating whether or not the niqab is a practical garment to wear whilst driving? Any opinions anyone?[/p][/quote]Please tell us how you know this fact before asking opinions. Hough64
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6:17pm Thu 27 Dec 12

Hough64 says...

mustafa-moan wrote:
Hough64 wrote:
mustafa-moan wrote:
I believe she was wearing a niqab when the accident occurred, if this is the case then they should be banned whilst driving! I think the media are once again omiting very relevant details to hide the full truth!
And you know this fact how exactly?
I said "I believe" in my earlier post, so not a fact, however I have read a couple of articles relating to this story and they would tend to imply she was.
So basically you read it in some trashy tabloid so it must be true? That makes you a sheep my dear.
[quote][p][bold]mustafa-moan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hough64[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mustafa-moan[/bold] wrote: I believe she was wearing a niqab when the accident occurred, if this is the case then they should be banned whilst driving! I think the media are once again omiting very relevant details to hide the full truth![/p][/quote]And you know this fact how exactly?[/p][/quote]I said "I believe" in my earlier post, so not a fact, however I have read a couple of articles relating to this story and they would tend to imply she was.[/p][/quote]So basically you read it in some trashy tabloid so it must be true? That makes you a sheep my dear. Hough64
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6:21pm Thu 27 Dec 12

Hough64 says...

mustafa-moan wrote:
My point is that maybe if she wasn't wearing the niqab then nobody would have died! I'm debating whether or not the niqab is a practical garment to wear whilst driving? Any opinions anyone?
So if her tyre blew, or she skidded on oil, or any other reason that cause other fatal crashes, are only happening because of wearing such a garment? So all the thousands of deaths on our roads are caused by wearing one? Silly man...go and get some facts before trying to spread heresay and gossip.
[quote][p][bold]mustafa-moan[/bold] wrote: My point is that maybe if she wasn't wearing the niqab then nobody would have died! I'm debating whether or not the niqab is a practical garment to wear whilst driving? Any opinions anyone?[/p][/quote]So if her tyre blew, or she skidded on oil, or any other reason that cause other fatal crashes, are only happening because of wearing such a garment? So all the thousands of deaths on our roads are caused by wearing one? Silly man...go and get some facts before trying to spread heresay and gossip. Hough64
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7:58pm Thu 27 Dec 12

Hough64 says...

mustafa-moan wrote:
None of the above probable explanations could be helped hough if that is in fact how the accident did happen, however (not yet fact) if and I repeat "if" she was wearing the niqab and as long as there were no other anomalies as you stated, then the impaired vision caused by the niqab could be a contributory factor, do you agree or not? Oh and I don't read tabloids, the WWW is a font of endless knowledge providing one knows where to look!
So tell us where you read it or put a link on here please. And why would I get into a discussion about the garment impairing vision if it has no relevance to the story? Until it has been proven this is the case you should not be speculating. The lady has lost her two children. Show some respect.
[quote][p][bold]mustafa-moan[/bold] wrote: None of the above probable explanations could be helped hough if that is in fact how the accident did happen, however (not yet fact) if and I repeat "if" she was wearing the niqab and as long as there were no other anomalies as you stated, then the impaired vision caused by the niqab could be a contributory factor, do you agree or not? Oh and I don't read tabloids, the WWW is a font of endless knowledge providing one knows where to look![/p][/quote]So tell us where you read it or put a link on here please. And why would I get into a discussion about the garment impairing vision if it has no relevance to the story? Until it has been proven this is the case you should not be speculating. The lady has lost her two children. Show some respect. Hough64
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8:35pm Thu 27 Dec 12

Rememberscarborough says...

Leave the racial arguments for another time. It doesn't matter what their ethnic background was because their families will mourn in exactly the same way. My condolences to all involved.
Leave the racial arguments for another time. It doesn't matter what their ethnic background was because their families will mourn in exactly the same way. My condolences to all involved. Rememberscarborough
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9:36pm Thu 27 Dec 12

mr.mark.c says...

A mother has lost her two children, A whole family attended what must have been a very sad wedding.
Please try and have some sympathy before spouting blame, I think the Mother who was driving does not need any help in feeling guilty, she will feel that it his her fault no matter how it happened.
The BBC has better information http://www.bbc.co.uk
/news/uk-20853405
A mother has lost her two children, A whole family attended what must have been a very sad wedding. Please try and have some sympathy before spouting blame, I think the Mother who was driving does not need any help in feeling guilty, she will feel that it his her fault no matter how it happened. The BBC has better information http://www.bbc.co.uk /news/uk-20853405 mr.mark.c
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9:48pm Thu 27 Dec 12

Citizen Cane says...

It is highly relevant to understand the cause of this crash. There appeared to be no other vehicle involved. If there is some material fact that drivers should take into account when behind the wheel then that should be made public as soon as possible in order to improve road safety.

Lets be clear that millions of otherwise innocent drivers are penalised each year through speed camera fines on the pretext (lie) of road safety improvement. An accident such as this, with three needless fatalities, needs to be thoroughly investigated and appropriate action taken depending upon the cause identified.
It is highly relevant to understand the cause of this crash. There appeared to be no other vehicle involved. If there is some material fact that drivers should take into account when behind the wheel then that should be made public as soon as possible in order to improve road safety. Lets be clear that millions of otherwise innocent drivers are penalised each year through speed camera fines on the pretext (lie) of road safety improvement. An accident such as this, with three needless fatalities, needs to be thoroughly investigated and appropriate action taken depending upon the cause identified. Citizen Cane
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5:04pm Fri 28 Dec 12

davroduk1 says...

I love reading these comment threads on this website, because no matter what the story, it always decends into name calling and **** at each other.
But this time the **** is out of order.
Innocent lives have been lost, and any comments should reflect that fact.
If this woman was wearing a garment that impaired her driving then that will have to be investigated at a later date, and then post your comments about that fact on that stories thread.
It does not matter what ethnic minority or majority these people came from, we should remember that a family has lost three members in terrible circumstances.
Leave the **** for another thread.
I love reading these comment threads on this website, because no matter what the story, it always decends into name calling and **** at each other. But this time the **** is out of order. Innocent lives have been lost, and any comments should reflect that fact. If this woman was wearing a garment that impaired her driving then that will have to be investigated at a later date, and then post your comments about that fact on that stories thread. It does not matter what ethnic minority or majority these people came from, we should remember that a family has lost three members in terrible circumstances. Leave the **** for another thread. davroduk1
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6:46pm Fri 28 Dec 12

davoovad says...

mustafa-moan wrote:
None of the above probable explanations could be helped hough if that is in fact how the accident did happen, however (not yet fact) if and I repeat "if" she was wearing the niqab and as long as there were no other anomalies as you stated, then the impaired vision caused by the niqab could be a contributory factor, do you agree or not? Oh and I don't read tabloids, the WWW is a font of endless knowledge providing one knows where to look!
I agree, there is talk on the web that she was wearing a niqab at the time of the accident, they should be banned and to all those who are saying this is not the time or the place just be thankful none of your nearest and dearest where not involved..
[quote][p][bold]mustafa-moan[/bold] wrote: None of the above probable explanations could be helped hough if that is in fact how the accident did happen, however (not yet fact) if and I repeat "if" she was wearing the niqab and as long as there were no other anomalies as you stated, then the impaired vision caused by the niqab could be a contributory factor, do you agree or not? Oh and I don't read tabloids, the WWW is a font of endless knowledge providing one knows where to look![/p][/quote]I agree, there is talk on the web that she was wearing a niqab at the time of the accident, they should be banned and to all those who are saying this is not the time or the place just be thankful none of your nearest and dearest where not involved.. davoovad
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7:23pm Fri 28 Dec 12

pjgarside says...

God bless three stars that will shine so bright in so many hearts
God bless three stars that will shine so bright in so many hearts pjgarside
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8:47pm Fri 28 Dec 12

mr.mark.c says...

mustafa-moan wrote:
davoovad wrote:
mustafa-moan wrote:
None of the above probable explanations could be helped hough if that is in fact how the accident did happen, however (not yet fact) if and I repeat "if" she was wearing the niqab and as long as there were no other anomalies as you stated, then the impaired vision caused by the niqab could be a contributory factor, do you agree or not? Oh and I don't read tabloids, the WWW is a font of endless knowledge providing one knows where to look!
I agree, there is talk on the web that she was wearing a niqab at the time of the accident, they should be banned and to all those who are saying this is not the time or the place just be thankful none of your nearest and dearest where not involved..
They certainly should be banned in many places, but behind the wheel of a 1 tonne 70 mph bullet it is an absolute necessity!
Much the same as bike helmets then ??????????
Maybe F1 should ban the helmet???
Get a life
[quote][p][bold]mustafa-moan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]davoovad[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mustafa-moan[/bold] wrote: None of the above probable explanations could be helped hough if that is in fact how the accident did happen, however (not yet fact) if and I repeat "if" she was wearing the niqab and as long as there were no other anomalies as you stated, then the impaired vision caused by the niqab could be a contributory factor, do you agree or not? Oh and I don't read tabloids, the WWW is a font of endless knowledge providing one knows where to look![/p][/quote]I agree, there is talk on the web that she was wearing a niqab at the time of the accident, they should be banned and to all those who are saying this is not the time or the place just be thankful none of your nearest and dearest where not involved..[/p][/quote]They certainly should be banned in many places, but behind the wheel of a 1 tonne 70 mph bullet it is an absolute necessity![/p][/quote]Much the same as bike helmets then ?????????? Maybe F1 should ban the helmet??? Get a life mr.mark.c
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4:51pm Sat 29 Dec 12

JustBecause says...

Mustafa, have you got nothing better to do than bring your racist crap in here you ****, its about time you got a good kicking you arsehole.
Mustafa, have you got nothing better to do than bring your racist crap in here you ****, its about time you got a good kicking you arsehole. JustBecause
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8:45pm Sat 29 Dec 12

judyben says...

pjgarside wrote:
God bless three stars that will shine so bright in so many hearts
Seeing their photographs in the newspaper was heartbreaking. Condolences to the families.
[quote][p][bold]pjgarside[/bold] wrote: God bless three stars that will shine so bright in so many hearts[/p][/quote]Seeing their photographs in the newspaper was heartbreaking. Condolences to the families. judyben
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11:13am Sun 30 Dec 12

Don Kiddick says...

pjgarside wrote:
God bless three stars that will shine so bright in so many hearts
Yeh, like your god never killed anybody. Idiot.
[quote][p][bold]pjgarside[/bold] wrote: God bless three stars that will shine so bright in so many hearts[/p][/quote]Yeh, like your god never killed anybody. Idiot. Don Kiddick
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2:56pm Sun 30 Dec 12

WanderersIdiot says...

Irrelevant if she was wearing a hijab... Motorcyclists wear helmets...
Irrelevant if she was wearing a hijab... Motorcyclists wear helmets... WanderersIdiot
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4:43pm Sun 30 Dec 12

Don Kiddick says...

WanderersIdiot wrote:
Irrelevant if she was wearing a hijab... Motorcyclists wear helmets...
thank you for re-iterating a comment made just a few lines up the page. Your incisive plagarism has made an immeasurable contribution to the discussion. Well done.
[quote][p][bold]WanderersIdiot[/bold] wrote: Irrelevant if she was wearing a hijab... Motorcyclists wear helmets...[/p][/quote]thank you for re-iterating a comment made just a few lines up the page. Your incisive plagarism has made an immeasurable contribution to the discussion. Well done. Don Kiddick
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8:43pm Sun 30 Dec 12

Don Kiddick says...

JustBecause wrote:
Mustafa, have you got nothing better to do than bring your racist crap in here you ****, its about time you got a good kicking you arsehole.
Shouldn't you be out on the streets with the other no-mark, pathetic thugs who think they can solve a problem with their fists? I can imagine the type of parents that dragged you up. What a pathetic waste of blood and guts.
[quote][p][bold]JustBecause[/bold] wrote: Mustafa, have you got nothing better to do than bring your racist crap in here you ****, its about time you got a good kicking you arsehole.[/p][/quote]Shouldn't you be out on the streets with the other no-mark, pathetic thugs who think they can solve a problem with their fists? I can imagine the type of parents that dragged you up. What a pathetic waste of blood and guts. Don Kiddick
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10:22pm Sun 30 Dec 12

Zain-Bolton says...

mustafa moron

If I throw a stick, will you leave?
mustafa moron If I throw a stick, will you leave? Zain-Bolton
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9:41am Mon 31 Dec 12

Zain-Bolton says...

davoovad wrote:
mustafa-moan wrote:
None of the above probable explanations could be helped hough if that is in fact how the accident did happen, however (not yet fact) if and I repeat "if" she was wearing the niqab and as long as there were no other anomalies as you stated, then the impaired vision caused by the niqab could be a contributory factor, do you agree or not? Oh and I don't read tabloids, the WWW is a font of endless knowledge providing one knows where to look!
I agree, there is talk on the web that she was wearing a niqab at the time of the accident, they should be banned and to all those who are saying this is not the time or the place just be thankful none of your nearest and dearest where not involved..
I agree, there is talk on the web that she was wearing a niqab

Really, talk on the web?

Is it BBC, Reuters, Sky News or is it that both you davoovad and mustafa-moan are making up inane drivel?

I am waiting for a link from any credible news source.

Nice to see both you trolls have used the death of children so you can sprout your putrid agenda.
[quote][p][bold]davoovad[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mustafa-moan[/bold] wrote: None of the above probable explanations could be helped hough if that is in fact how the accident did happen, however (not yet fact) if and I repeat "if" she was wearing the niqab and as long as there were no other anomalies as you stated, then the impaired vision caused by the niqab could be a contributory factor, do you agree or not? Oh and I don't read tabloids, the WWW is a font of endless knowledge providing one knows where to look![/p][/quote]I agree, there is talk on the web that she was wearing a niqab at the time of the accident, they should be banned and to all those who are saying this is not the time or the place just be thankful none of your nearest and dearest where not involved..[/p][/quote]I agree, there is talk on the web that she was wearing a niqab Really, talk on the web? Is it BBC, Reuters, Sky News or is it that both you davoovad and mustafa-moan are making up inane drivel? I am waiting for a link from any credible news source. Nice to see both you trolls have used the death of children so you can sprout your putrid agenda. Zain-Bolton
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9:48am Mon 31 Dec 12

Zain-Bolton says...

Why is it davoovad and mustafa-moan that the majority of your comments are to do with people of ethnic background?
Why is it davoovad and mustafa-moan that the majority of your comments are to do with people of ethnic background? Zain-Bolton
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12:09pm Mon 31 Dec 12

Don Kiddick says...

Zain-Bolton wrote:
Why is it davoovad and mustafa-moan that the majority of your comments are to do with people of ethnic background?
Well, shall we start with The Nile takeaway?
[quote][p][bold]Zain-Bolton[/bold] wrote: Why is it davoovad and mustafa-moan that the majority of your comments are to do with people of ethnic background?[/p][/quote]Well, shall we start with The Nile takeaway? Don Kiddick
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1:02pm Mon 31 Dec 12

Zain-Bolton says...

Don Kiddick wrote:
Zain-Bolton wrote:
Why is it davoovad and mustafa-moan that the majority of your comments are to do with people of ethnic background?
Well, shall we start with The Nile takeaway?
What exactly does a take away have to do with the tragic death of a woman and these two little boys?

Oh right, you are generalising all people of ethnicity.

Now you are really showing your level of simplicity.

I think you would be more suited on the BNP forum. You know the one the Black National Party.
[quote][p][bold]Don Kiddick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Zain-Bolton[/bold] wrote: Why is it davoovad and mustafa-moan that the majority of your comments are to do with people of ethnic background?[/p][/quote]Well, shall we start with The Nile takeaway?[/p][/quote]What exactly does a take away have to do with the tragic death of a woman and these two little boys? Oh right, you are generalising all people of ethnicity. Now you are really showing your level of simplicity. I think you would be more suited on the BNP forum. You know the one the Black National Party. Zain-Bolton
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3:28pm Mon 31 Dec 12

saj70n says...

mustafa moron
you are one low life
mustafa moron you are one low life saj70n
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3:58pm Mon 31 Dec 12

Don Kiddick says...

saj70n wrote:
mustafa moron
you are one low life
not killed anyone though has he.
[quote][p][bold]saj70n[/bold] wrote: mustafa moron you are one low life[/p][/quote]not killed anyone though has he. Don Kiddick
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7:35pm Mon 31 Dec 12

Zain-Bolton says...

Don Kiddick wrote:
saj70n wrote:
mustafa moron
you are one low life
not killed anyone though has he.
No he hasn’t killed anybody.

What he has done is accuse a mother of killing her children by wearing a piece of clothing, and therefore insinuate she is directly responsible for what happened. These are totally baseless accusations. We are all entitled to free speech, but these are not comments these are accusations. What he has done is vile and revolting and you are a parasite for defending his actions.
[quote][p][bold]Don Kiddick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saj70n[/bold] wrote: mustafa moron you are one low life[/p][/quote]not killed anyone though has he.[/p][/quote]No he hasn’t killed anybody. What he has done is accuse a mother of killing her children by wearing a piece of clothing, and therefore insinuate she is directly responsible for what happened. These are totally baseless accusations. We are all entitled to free speech, but these are not comments these are accusations. What he has done is vile and revolting and you are a parasite for defending his actions. Zain-Bolton
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10:28am Tue 1 Jan 13

Don Kiddick says...

Zain-Bolton wrote:
Don Kiddick wrote:
saj70n wrote:
mustafa moron
you are one low life
not killed anyone though has he.
No he hasn’t killed anybody.

What he has done is accuse a mother of killing her children by wearing a piece of clothing, and therefore insinuate she is directly responsible for what happened. These are totally baseless accusations. We are all entitled to free speech, but these are not comments these are accusations. What he has done is vile and revolting and you are a parasite for defending his actions.
Well actually a parasite takes from its host rather than adds to it - English not a strong point? Whatever, Mustafa-Moan made a perfectly reasonable point and your dismissal of it shows you to be the racist, not him. Anything that impairs vision increases risk including motorcycle helmets - however a helmet is a necessary item of safety equipement unlike a niqab which serves no useful purpose whatsoever.
[quote][p][bold]Zain-Bolton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Don Kiddick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saj70n[/bold] wrote: mustafa moron you are one low life[/p][/quote]not killed anyone though has he.[/p][/quote]No he hasn’t killed anybody. What he has done is accuse a mother of killing her children by wearing a piece of clothing, and therefore insinuate she is directly responsible for what happened. These are totally baseless accusations. We are all entitled to free speech, but these are not comments these are accusations. What he has done is vile and revolting and you are a parasite for defending his actions.[/p][/quote]Well actually a parasite takes from its host rather than adds to it - English not a strong point? Whatever, Mustafa-Moan made a perfectly reasonable point and your dismissal of it shows you to be the racist, not him. Anything that impairs vision increases risk including motorcycle helmets - however a helmet is a necessary item of safety equipement unlike a niqab which serves no useful purpose whatsoever. Don Kiddick
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11:52am Tue 1 Jan 13

Zain-Bolton says...

Don Kiddick wrote:
Zain-Bolton wrote:
Don Kiddick wrote:
saj70n wrote:
mustafa moron
you are one low life
not killed anyone though has he.
No he hasn’t killed anybody.

What he has done is accuse a mother of killing her children by wearing a piece of clothing, and therefore insinuate she is directly responsible for what happened. These are totally baseless accusations. We are all entitled to free speech, but these are not comments these are accusations. What he has done is vile and revolting and you are a parasite for defending his actions.
Well actually a parasite takes from its host rather than adds to it - English not a strong point? Whatever, Mustafa-Moan made a perfectly reasonable point and your dismissal of it shows you to be the racist, not him. Anything that impairs vision increases risk including motorcycle helmets - however a helmet is a necessary item of safety equipement unlike a niqab which serves no useful purpose whatsoever.
You are fuelling this posts because of what he wrote.

That is Parasitism.

Mustafa-Moan made a perfectly reasonable point.

Really?

I believe she was wearing a niqab.

That’s not a point it is an accusation.
Mustafa-Moan made a perfectly reasonable point and your dismissal of it shows you to be the racist

Really?

He makes an unfounded accusation I asked him to prove it. He does not, so I totally disregard what he says and dismiss it as fodder.

And this makes me a racist?

Common sense not your strong point is it?

In an earlier post I asked the question.

Why is it davoovad and mustafa-moan that the majority of your comments are to do with people of ethnic background?

And you replied.

Well, shall we start with The Nile takeaway?”

Please enlighten us all as to the relationship between the accident and the take away.
[quote][p][bold]Don Kiddick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Zain-Bolton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Don Kiddick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saj70n[/bold] wrote: mustafa moron you are one low life[/p][/quote]not killed anyone though has he.[/p][/quote]No he hasn’t killed anybody. What he has done is accuse a mother of killing her children by wearing a piece of clothing, and therefore insinuate she is directly responsible for what happened. These are totally baseless accusations. We are all entitled to free speech, but these are not comments these are accusations. What he has done is vile and revolting and you are a parasite for defending his actions.[/p][/quote]Well actually a parasite takes from its host rather than adds to it - English not a strong point? Whatever, Mustafa-Moan made a perfectly reasonable point and your dismissal of it shows you to be the racist, not him. Anything that impairs vision increases risk including motorcycle helmets - however a helmet is a necessary item of safety equipement unlike a niqab which serves no useful purpose whatsoever.[/p][/quote]You are fuelling this posts because of what he wrote. That is Parasitism. Mustafa-Moan made a perfectly reasonable point. Really? I believe she was wearing a niqab. That’s not a point it is an accusation. Mustafa-Moan made a perfectly reasonable point and your dismissal of it shows you to be the racist Really? He makes an unfounded accusation I asked him to prove it. He does not, so I totally disregard what he says and dismiss it as fodder. And this makes me a racist? Common sense not your strong point is it? In an earlier post I asked the question. Why is it davoovad and mustafa-moan that the majority of your comments are to do with people of ethnic background? And you replied. Well, shall we start with The Nile takeaway?” Please enlighten us all as to the relationship between the accident and the take away. Zain-Bolton
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2:11pm Tue 1 Jan 13

Don Kiddick says...

you really do not have a clue do you? a parasite latches on to a healthy host and gradually erodes it until it dies, much like scroungers leaching from a benefit system. So you're actually agreeing with Mustafa-Moan. Next we move to the term "fodder" which means only one thing and that's food - which is what we all rely on to sustain our lives, so again you're adding weight to the the opposing argument. Finally "I believe she was wearing a niqab" isn't the accusative case - but you've chosen to distort the phrase because you're a pathetic and arrogant racist.
you really do not have a clue do you? a parasite latches on to a healthy host and gradually erodes it until it dies, much like scroungers leaching from a benefit system. So you're actually agreeing with Mustafa-Moan. Next we move to the term "fodder" which means only one thing and that's food - which is what we all rely on to sustain our lives, so again you're adding weight to the the opposing argument. Finally "I believe she was wearing a niqab" isn't the accusative case - but you've chosen to distort the phrase because you're a pathetic and arrogant racist. Don Kiddick
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2:14pm Tue 1 Jan 13

boltonnut says...

RIP Little ones.Question,why does a horse wear blinders???
RIP Little ones.Question,why does a horse wear blinders??? boltonnut
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2:33pm Tue 1 Jan 13

roadkillking says...

typical of modern attitudes that you're classed as racist for having opinions on such things as headwear.
i simulated the niqab or whatever its called, just out of curiosity. and i can say it does severely restrict vision.
also a motorcycle helmet has approximately 10-15 times more free area.
ps i am not racist. not that i care what you think.
typical of modern attitudes that you're classed as racist for having opinions on such things as headwear. i simulated the niqab or whatever its called, just out of curiosity. and i can say it does severely restrict vision. also a motorcycle helmet has approximately 10-15 times more free area. ps i am not racist. not that i care what you think. roadkillking
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4:21am Wed 2 Jan 13

Zain-Bolton says...

Don Kiddick wrote:
you really do not have a clue do you? a parasite latches on to a healthy host and gradually erodes it until it dies, much like scroungers leaching from a benefit system. So you're actually agreeing with Mustafa-Moan. Next we move to the term "fodder" which means only one thing and that's food - which is what we all rely on to sustain our lives, so again you're adding weight to the the opposing argument. Finally "I believe she was wearing a niqab" isn't the accusative case - but you've chosen to distort the phrase because you're a pathetic and arrogant racist.
“A parasite latches on to a healthy host and gradually erodes it until it dies.”

Really?

Not all parasites kill the hosts they are attached to. A parasite by definition is something that feeds off a person (or a so-called 'host'). You can look it up here http://www.urbandict
ionary.com/define.ph
p?term=parasite. As I stated earlier you are fuelling these posts because of what Mustafa-Moan wrote. That is Parasitism.

“Much like scroungers leaching from a benefit system.”

Ok I don’t know how scroungers and benefits came in the post, but I guess that is your modus operandi.

“So you're actually agreeing with Mustafa-Moan.”

Agreeing about what? In fact what are you drivelling on about?

“Next we move to the term "fodder" which means only one thing and that's food - which is what we all rely on to sustain our lives, so again you're adding weight to the the opposing argument.”

Really?

Are you actually stating that we all eat fodder?

Speak for yourself.

Fodder or animal feed is any agricultural foodstuff used specifically to feed domesticated livestock, such as cattle, goats, sheep, horses, chickens and pigs (source Wikipedia)

If you are eating this stuff that really explains a lot.

"I believe she was wearing a niqab isn't the accusative case - but you've chosen to distort the phrase."

Ok let’s try and go with this point, but please be aware I am doing this to accommodate you in regards to your non accusative point of view. So if I said to you these non-accusative words. I believe you are a cretin, I believe you are a moronic, I believe you are an imbecile, I believe you are a racist who hides behind the façade of debate but actually hate people of ethnic minority. I believe my sofa has more seats than the BNP. I believe you are a person who eats cattle food.

Are these “accusative case” comments I have mentioned above?

Well according to your logic no.

What you need to do is put what mustafa moan wrote in to context.

A family travelling along the motorway, an accident happens, 2 young children and a woman die in the accident. The mother of the 2 children was the driver of the car, as of yet the public do not know the cause of the accident. Mustafa moan who constantly post comments when ethnic minorities are involved writes “I believe she was wearing a niqab when the accident occurred.” He writes this without providing not a shred of evidence from any credible news source, despite being asked time and time again to provide it.

What mustafa moan has done is accused the mother of causing an accident because wearing a piece of clothing (niquab), and therefore insinuate she is directly responsible for what happened. The death of 2 beautiful little boys and their auntie.

According to you because I have stated this I am a pathetic racist.

Have I ever mentioned or have any knowledge of your or anybody else’s skin colour or religion?

No.

Do I know of your or mustafa moan’s ethnicity?

No.

So how you came to this conclusion I do not know.

I think the horse feed you are eating might have distorted what little thought process you originally had.

I truly and sincerely worry about you and your unusual desire for eating cattle food. I suggest you see medical advice for your condition.
[quote][p][bold]Don Kiddick[/bold] wrote: you really do not have a clue do you? a parasite latches on to a healthy host and gradually erodes it until it dies, much like scroungers leaching from a benefit system. So you're actually agreeing with Mustafa-Moan. Next we move to the term "fodder" which means only one thing and that's food - which is what we all rely on to sustain our lives, so again you're adding weight to the the opposing argument. Finally "I believe she was wearing a niqab" isn't the accusative case - but you've chosen to distort the phrase because you're a pathetic and arrogant racist.[/p][/quote]“A parasite latches on to a healthy host and gradually erodes it until it dies.” Really? Not all parasites kill the hosts they are attached to. A parasite by definition is something that feeds off a person (or a so-called 'host'). You can look it up here http://www.urbandict ionary.com/define.ph p?term=parasite. As I stated earlier you are fuelling these posts because of what Mustafa-Moan wrote. That is Parasitism. “Much like scroungers leaching from a benefit system.” Ok I don’t know how scroungers and benefits came in the post, but I guess that is your modus operandi. “So you're actually agreeing with Mustafa-Moan.” Agreeing about what? In fact what are you drivelling on about? “Next we move to the term "fodder" which means only one thing and that's food - which is what we all rely on to sustain our lives, so again you're adding weight to the the opposing argument.” Really? Are you actually stating that we all eat fodder? Speak for yourself. Fodder or animal feed is any agricultural foodstuff used specifically to feed domesticated livestock, such as cattle, goats, sheep, horses, chickens and pigs (source Wikipedia) If you are eating this stuff that really explains a lot. "I believe she was wearing a niqab isn't the accusative case - but you've chosen to distort the phrase." Ok let’s try and go with this point, but please be aware I am doing this to accommodate you in regards to your non accusative point of view. So if I said to you these non-accusative words. I believe you are a cretin, I believe you are a moronic, I believe you are an imbecile, I believe you are a racist who hides behind the façade of debate but actually hate people of ethnic minority. I believe my sofa has more seats than the BNP. I believe you are a person who eats cattle food. Are these “accusative case” comments I have mentioned above? Well according to your logic no. What you need to do is put what mustafa moan wrote in to context. A family travelling along the motorway, an accident happens, 2 young children and a woman die in the accident. The mother of the 2 children was the driver of the car, as of yet the public do not know the cause of the accident. Mustafa moan who constantly post comments when ethnic minorities are involved writes “I believe she was wearing a niqab when the accident occurred.” He writes this without providing not a shred of evidence from any credible news source, despite being asked time and time again to provide it. What mustafa moan has done is accused the mother of causing an accident because wearing a piece of clothing (niquab), and therefore insinuate she is directly responsible for what happened. The death of 2 beautiful little boys and their auntie. According to you because I have stated this I am a pathetic racist. Have I ever mentioned or have any knowledge of your or anybody else’s skin colour or religion? No. Do I know of your or mustafa moan’s ethnicity? No. So how you came to this conclusion I do not know. I think the horse feed you are eating might have distorted what little thought process you originally had. I truly and sincerely worry about you and your unusual desire for eating cattle food. I suggest you see medical advice for your condition. Zain-Bolton
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12:49pm Wed 2 Jan 13

Zain-Bolton says...

Don Kiddick wrote:
Zain-Bolton wrote:
Why is it davoovad and mustafa-moan that the majority of your comments are to do with people of ethnic background?
Well, shall we start with The Nile takeaway?
In an earlier post I asked the question.


What exactly does a take away have to do with the tragic death of a woman and these two little boys?


You choose to ignore this question.


Yet keep posting comments that I am a racist.

I can assure you it is a sincerely innocent question.


Please enlighten us all as to the relationship between the accident and the take away.
[quote][p][bold]Don Kiddick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Zain-Bolton[/bold] wrote: Why is it davoovad and mustafa-moan that the majority of your comments are to do with people of ethnic background?[/p][/quote]Well, shall we start with The Nile takeaway?[/p][/quote]In an earlier post I asked the question. What exactly does a take away have to do with the tragic death of a woman and these two little boys? You choose to ignore this question. Yet keep posting comments that I am a racist. I can assure you it is a sincerely innocent question. Please enlighten us all as to the relationship between the accident and the take away. Zain-Bolton
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1:50pm Wed 2 Jan 13

Crazy 38 says...

What is the point in arguing...3 ppl have died...show some respect
What is the point in arguing...3 ppl have died...show some respect Crazy 38
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5:30pm Wed 2 Jan 13

grimtown says...

My heart goes out to the parents.

But bank holidays are notorious for fatal travel accidents,

Why are the BEN covering this story
My heart goes out to the parents. But bank holidays are notorious for fatal travel accidents, Why are the BEN covering this story grimtown
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5:30pm Wed 2 Jan 13

grimtown says...

My heart goes out to the parents.

But bank holidays are notorious for fatal travel accidents,

Why are the BEN covering this story
My heart goes out to the parents. But bank holidays are notorious for fatal travel accidents, Why are the BEN covering this story grimtown
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