Drugs, prostitution and alcohol have made Bolton street a ghetto, residents claim

Police patrolling Halliwell Road to crack down on drugs, prostitution and alcohol

Police patrolling Halliwell Road to crack down on drugs, prostitution and alcohol

First published in News The Bolton News: Photograph of the Author by , Crime reporter

DRUGS, prostitution and alcohol have turned a Bolton street into a ghetto, residents have claimed.

Now police have launched an operation to tackle concerns about sections of Halliwell Road, following a stabbing at the Mama Mia takeaway in April.

A man was stabbed during an argument and ran out into the road and was hit by a car. A 33-year-old man was arrested and has been bailed.

Anti-social behaviour and prostitution is a big worry for people who live there, and police are now trying to reassure residents and businesses that they will act on the problems.

One worker said: “In the last 10 years it has become a bad place. It is like a ghetto with drugs and prostitutes. This is the first time we have seen the police doing something about it.”

A pensioner, who has lived in Halliwell Road since 1968, added: “I am glad the police are doing this because I feel like no one knows what is going on, but they do now.

“There are always people hanging around outside drinking. Lots of people don’t speak English and don’t work. I don’t know how they live.” A father-of-two, aged 28, added: “The area is not good. I don’t like my children playing in the garden because people throw bottles over that could injure them.

“I don’t like my wife going out. People are intimidating and children swear at you. It’s terrible, that should not happen.”

Shaheen Sameja, neighbourhood manager for Halliwell, said Bolton had a “strong tradition” of welcoming new communities to the area. She added: “As part of that, we know over the last couple of years there are new communities from Eastern European countries, particularly Hungary.

“They are often wary of going to services such as police and health services because they are treated as the underclass in their own country.

“Today is an example of police and the council telling them we are here and that people can tell us their issues.”

Insp Wayne Readfern, of Bolton North neighbourhood policing team, said his officers were reaching out to residents to find out all the issues in the area.

He said: “We want to reassure people so they will come to us with issues.

“This will be a long-term operation.”

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8:49am Thu 11 Jul 13

thomas ryder says...

They along with Bolton Council have been told over many years that this area had become a hot bed of crime and drugs etc but as in Rochdale and Blackburn local opinion was ignored and classed as racist bigots instead of the truth which was they were afraid to tackle it for fear of the racist card being played.
They along with Bolton Council have been told over many years that this area had become a hot bed of crime and drugs etc but as in Rochdale and Blackburn local opinion was ignored and classed as racist bigots instead of the truth which was they were afraid to tackle it for fear of the racist card being played. thomas ryder
  • Score: 5

8:59am Thu 11 Jul 13

Lawlesschat says...

thomas ryder wrote:
They along with Bolton Council have been told over many years that this area had become a hot bed of crime and drugs etc but as in Rochdale and Blackburn local opinion was ignored and classed as racist bigots instead of the truth which was they were afraid to tackle it for fear of the racist card being played.
What are the local issues exactly?
Alcohol, crime and disorder, the majority of it in Halliwell road is attributed to the white British born!

Yes there is a growing issue of drug dealers, mainly from the Asian community but with that said, there's a substantial number of white British drugs dealers who live either side of Halliwell road.

As with the Eastern Europeans, yes they have cultural flows that don't contrast with our own, but surely that's why they've been houses in Halliwell road because let's face it, it was already a bad state before they arrived!

The issue with Bolton is its got too many deprived area's!

The council need to do something to improve quality of living for people, not subjugate and place baseless blame on folk.
[quote][p][bold]thomas ryder[/bold] wrote: They along with Bolton Council have been told over many years that this area had become a hot bed of crime and drugs etc but as in Rochdale and Blackburn local opinion was ignored and classed as racist bigots instead of the truth which was they were afraid to tackle it for fear of the racist card being played.[/p][/quote]What are the local issues exactly? Alcohol, crime and disorder, the majority of it in Halliwell road is attributed to the white British born! Yes there is a growing issue of drug dealers, mainly from the Asian community but with that said, there's a substantial number of white British drugs dealers who live either side of Halliwell road. As with the Eastern Europeans, yes they have cultural flows that don't contrast with our own, but surely that's why they've been houses in Halliwell road because let's face it, it was already a bad state before they arrived! The issue with Bolton is its got too many deprived area's! The council need to do something to improve quality of living for people, not subjugate and place baseless blame on folk. Lawlesschat
  • Score: 63

9:08am Thu 11 Jul 13

thomas ryder says...

Why dont you do a proper bit of reporting and go up there and take some pics of the surrounding streets and back streets.. they are full of peoples rubbish every where...
Why dont you do a proper bit of reporting and go up there and take some pics of the surrounding streets and back streets.. they are full of peoples rubbish every where... thomas ryder
  • Score: 23

9:09am Thu 11 Jul 13

Lawlesschat says...

Thomas Ryder, you think with limited mental capacity and with a racist agenda.
Snap out of it, you know what they say ... Stones and glass houses!

The white populous has as much if not more to do with the Demise of this town than any other ethnic group.

They say behaviour breeds behaviour, well this is true for Halliwell road!
Thomas Ryder, you think with limited mental capacity and with a racist agenda. Snap out of it, you know what they say ... Stones and glass houses! The white populous has as much if not more to do with the Demise of this town than any other ethnic group. They say behaviour breeds behaviour, well this is true for Halliwell road! Lawlesschat
  • Score: -8

9:10am Thu 11 Jul 13

thomas ryder says...

Lawlesschat wrote:
thomas ryder wrote: They along with Bolton Council have been told over many years that this area had become a hot bed of crime and drugs etc but as in Rochdale and Blackburn local opinion was ignored and classed as racist bigots instead of the truth which was they were afraid to tackle it for fear of the racist card being played.
What are the local issues exactly? Alcohol, crime and disorder, the majority of it in Halliwell road is attributed to the white British born! Yes there is a growing issue of drug dealers, mainly from the Asian community but with that said, there's a substantial number of white British drugs dealers who live either side of Halliwell road. As with the Eastern Europeans, yes they have cultural flows that don't contrast with our own, but surely that's why they've been houses in Halliwell road because let's face it, it was already a bad state before they arrived! The issue with Bolton is its got too many deprived area's! The council need to do something to improve quality of living for people, not subjugate and place baseless blame on folk.
Do you live in the area or just pass through?
[quote][p][bold]Lawlesschat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomas ryder[/bold] wrote: They along with Bolton Council have been told over many years that this area had become a hot bed of crime and drugs etc but as in Rochdale and Blackburn local opinion was ignored and classed as racist bigots instead of the truth which was they were afraid to tackle it for fear of the racist card being played.[/p][/quote]What are the local issues exactly? Alcohol, crime and disorder, the majority of it in Halliwell road is attributed to the white British born! Yes there is a growing issue of drug dealers, mainly from the Asian community but with that said, there's a substantial number of white British drugs dealers who live either side of Halliwell road. As with the Eastern Europeans, yes they have cultural flows that don't contrast with our own, but surely that's why they've been houses in Halliwell road because let's face it, it was already a bad state before they arrived! The issue with Bolton is its got too many deprived area's! The council need to do something to improve quality of living for people, not subjugate and place baseless blame on folk.[/p][/quote]Do you live in the area or just pass through? thomas ryder
  • Score: 25

9:12am Thu 11 Jul 13

thomas ryder says...

Lawlesschat wrote:
Thomas Ryder, you think with limited mental capacity and with a racist agenda. Snap out of it, you know what they say ... Stones and glass houses! The white populous has as much if not more to do with the Demise of this town than any other ethnic group. They say behaviour breeds behaviour, well this is true for Halliwell road!
Do you live in the area or do you like many other people just pass through going to a nice area on the outskirts ?
[quote][p][bold]Lawlesschat[/bold] wrote: Thomas Ryder, you think with limited mental capacity and with a racist agenda. Snap out of it, you know what they say ... Stones and glass houses! The white populous has as much if not more to do with the Demise of this town than any other ethnic group. They say behaviour breeds behaviour, well this is true for Halliwell road![/p][/quote]Do you live in the area or do you like many other people just pass through going to a nice area on the outskirts ? thomas ryder
  • Score: 13

9:14am Thu 11 Jul 13

Lawlesschat says...

thomas ryder wrote:
Why dont you do a proper bit of reporting and go up there and take some pics of the surrounding streets and back streets.. they are full of peoples rubbish every where...
If you're that fussed, get a black bin bag and some gloves and go collect the litter!
Do your part if the council is failing, and I am in no way defending the council let that be known!

Years ago people used to maintain their streets by picking up litter, brushing their back streets! Nowadays, it's a case of 'its not mine so I'm not picking it up'.

It would people 10 mins a week to keep their streets clean if everyone agreed to it, reality is though they won't!
[quote][p][bold]thomas ryder[/bold] wrote: Why dont you do a proper bit of reporting and go up there and take some pics of the surrounding streets and back streets.. they are full of peoples rubbish every where...[/p][/quote]If you're that fussed, get a black bin bag and some gloves and go collect the litter! Do your part if the council is failing, and I am in no way defending the council let that be known! Years ago people used to maintain their streets by picking up litter, brushing their back streets! Nowadays, it's a case of 'its not mine so I'm not picking it up'. It would people 10 mins a week to keep their streets clean if everyone agreed to it, reality is though they won't! Lawlesschat
  • Score: 11

9:16am Thu 11 Jul 13

Lawlesschat says...

Lawlesschat wrote:
thomas ryder wrote:
Why dont you do a proper bit of reporting and go up there and take some pics of the surrounding streets and back streets.. they are full of peoples rubbish every where...
If you're that fussed, get a black bin bag and some gloves and go collect the litter!
Do your part if the council is failing, and I am in no way defending the council let that be known!

Years ago people used to maintain their streets by picking up litter, brushing their back streets! Nowadays, it's a case of 'its not mine so I'm not picking it up'.

It would people 10 mins a week to keep their streets clean if everyone agreed to it, reality is though they won't!
Whether I live their or pass through is non of your concern.
[quote][p][bold]Lawlesschat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomas ryder[/bold] wrote: Why dont you do a proper bit of reporting and go up there and take some pics of the surrounding streets and back streets.. they are full of peoples rubbish every where...[/p][/quote]If you're that fussed, get a black bin bag and some gloves and go collect the litter! Do your part if the council is failing, and I am in no way defending the council let that be known! Years ago people used to maintain their streets by picking up litter, brushing their back streets! Nowadays, it's a case of 'its not mine so I'm not picking it up'. It would people 10 mins a week to keep their streets clean if everyone agreed to it, reality is though they won't![/p][/quote]Whether I live their or pass through is non of your concern. Lawlesschat
  • Score: -20

9:16am Thu 11 Jul 13

thomas ryder says...

Lawlesschat wrote:
thomas ryder wrote: Why dont you do a proper bit of reporting and go up there and take some pics of the surrounding streets and back streets.. they are full of peoples rubbish every where...
If you're that fussed, get a black bin bag and some gloves and go collect the litter! Do your part if the council is failing, and I am in no way defending the council let that be known! Years ago people used to maintain their streets by picking up litter, brushing their back streets! Nowadays, it's a case of 'its not mine so I'm not picking it up'. It would people 10 mins a week to keep their streets clean if everyone agreed to it, reality is though they won't!
Like to come along and help me ?
[quote][p][bold]Lawlesschat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomas ryder[/bold] wrote: Why dont you do a proper bit of reporting and go up there and take some pics of the surrounding streets and back streets.. they are full of peoples rubbish every where...[/p][/quote]If you're that fussed, get a black bin bag and some gloves and go collect the litter! Do your part if the council is failing, and I am in no way defending the council let that be known! Years ago people used to maintain their streets by picking up litter, brushing their back streets! Nowadays, it's a case of 'its not mine so I'm not picking it up'. It would people 10 mins a week to keep their streets clean if everyone agreed to it, reality is though they won't![/p][/quote]Like to come along and help me ? thomas ryder
  • Score: 23

9:19am Thu 11 Jul 13

thomas ryder says...

Lawlesschat wrote:
Lawlesschat wrote:
thomas ryder wrote: Why dont you do a proper bit of reporting and go up there and take some pics of the surrounding streets and back streets.. they are full of peoples rubbish every where...
If you're that fussed, get a black bin bag and some gloves and go collect the litter! Do your part if the council is failing, and I am in no way defending the council let that be known! Years ago people used to maintain their streets by picking up litter, brushing their back streets! Nowadays, it's a case of 'its not mine so I'm not picking it up'. It would people 10 mins a week to keep their streets clean if everyone agreed to it, reality is though they won't!
Whether I live their or pass through is non of your concern.
Ill will take that as a no then. Old Halliwell saying is if you dont know what your talking about keep your mouth shut.
[quote][p][bold]Lawlesschat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lawlesschat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomas ryder[/bold] wrote: Why dont you do a proper bit of reporting and go up there and take some pics of the surrounding streets and back streets.. they are full of peoples rubbish every where...[/p][/quote]If you're that fussed, get a black bin bag and some gloves and go collect the litter! Do your part if the council is failing, and I am in no way defending the council let that be known! Years ago people used to maintain their streets by picking up litter, brushing their back streets! Nowadays, it's a case of 'its not mine so I'm not picking it up'. It would people 10 mins a week to keep their streets clean if everyone agreed to it, reality is though they won't![/p][/quote]Whether I live their or pass through is non of your concern.[/p][/quote]Ill will take that as a no then. Old Halliwell saying is if you dont know what your talking about keep your mouth shut. thomas ryder
  • Score: 29

9:21am Thu 11 Jul 13

Lawlesschat says...

Thomas, you need to snap out of this culture of blame!

It's been going on for years, where has it left you, what have you gained? Nothing at all, and you know I am right.

If the local (concerned) residents began to sweep up the areas outside their houses then this would encourage others to do the same!
Thomas, you need to snap out of this culture of blame! It's been going on for years, where has it left you, what have you gained? Nothing at all, and you know I am right. If the local (concerned) residents began to sweep up the areas outside their houses then this would encourage others to do the same! Lawlesschat
  • Score: -4

9:22am Thu 11 Jul 13

Lawlesschat says...

thomas ryder wrote:
Lawlesschat wrote:
thomas ryder wrote: Why dont you do a proper bit of reporting and go up there and take some pics of the surrounding streets and back streets.. they are full of peoples rubbish every where...
If you're that fussed, get a black bin bag and some gloves and go collect the litter! Do your part if the council is failing, and I am in no way defending the council let that be known! Years ago people used to maintain their streets by picking up litter, brushing their back streets! Nowadays, it's a case of 'its not mine so I'm not picking it up'. It would people 10 mins a week to keep their streets clean if everyone agreed to it, reality is though they won't!
Like to come along and help me ?
I often clean up the mess in Halliwell road!
[quote][p][bold]thomas ryder[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lawlesschat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomas ryder[/bold] wrote: Why dont you do a proper bit of reporting and go up there and take some pics of the surrounding streets and back streets.. they are full of peoples rubbish every where...[/p][/quote]If you're that fussed, get a black bin bag and some gloves and go collect the litter! Do your part if the council is failing, and I am in no way defending the council let that be known! Years ago people used to maintain their streets by picking up litter, brushing their back streets! Nowadays, it's a case of 'its not mine so I'm not picking it up'. It would people 10 mins a week to keep their streets clean if everyone agreed to it, reality is though they won't![/p][/quote]Like to come along and help me ?[/p][/quote]I often clean up the mess in Halliwell road! Lawlesschat
  • Score: -2

9:24am Thu 11 Jul 13

Lawlesschat says...

thomas ryder wrote:
Lawlesschat wrote:
thomas ryder wrote: Why dont you do a proper bit of reporting and go up there and take some pics of the surrounding streets and back streets.. they are full of peoples rubbish every where...
If you're that fussed, get a black bin bag and some gloves and go collect the litter! Do your part if the council is failing, and I am in no way defending the council let that be known! Years ago people used to maintain their streets by picking up litter, brushing their back streets! Nowadays, it's a case of 'its not mine so I'm not picking it up'. It would people 10 mins a week to keep their streets clean if everyone agreed to it, reality is though they won't!
Like to come along and help me ?
No, Not particularly!

But some action into your words!

Stop being so lazy and trying to find excuses to get out of it!

Go on ..,, do it!!! Go on lad.
[quote][p][bold]thomas ryder[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lawlesschat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomas ryder[/bold] wrote: Why dont you do a proper bit of reporting and go up there and take some pics of the surrounding streets and back streets.. they are full of peoples rubbish every where...[/p][/quote]If you're that fussed, get a black bin bag and some gloves and go collect the litter! Do your part if the council is failing, and I am in no way defending the council let that be known! Years ago people used to maintain their streets by picking up litter, brushing their back streets! Nowadays, it's a case of 'its not mine so I'm not picking it up'. It would people 10 mins a week to keep their streets clean if everyone agreed to it, reality is though they won't![/p][/quote]Like to come along and help me ?[/p][/quote]No, Not particularly! But some action into your words! Stop being so lazy and trying to find excuses to get out of it! Go on ..,, do it!!! Go on lad. Lawlesschat
  • Score: -15

9:29am Thu 11 Jul 13

thomas ryder says...

Lawlesschat wrote:
Thomas, you need to snap out of this culture of blame! It's been going on for years, where has it left you, what have you gained? Nothing at all, and you know I am right. If the local (concerned) residents began to sweep up the areas outside their houses then this would encourage others to do the same!
Stop living in denial and dreamland like all the rest. We have a major problem here that has been ignored for many years with Halliwell area being used as a dumping ground for every one who arrives in Bolton. Would not be this way had nice ares like yours were dumped on in the same way.
[quote][p][bold]Lawlesschat[/bold] wrote: Thomas, you need to snap out of this culture of blame! It's been going on for years, where has it left you, what have you gained? Nothing at all, and you know I am right. If the local (concerned) residents began to sweep up the areas outside their houses then this would encourage others to do the same![/p][/quote]Stop living in denial and dreamland like all the rest. We have a major problem here that has been ignored for many years with Halliwell area being used as a dumping ground for every one who arrives in Bolton. Would not be this way had nice ares like yours were dumped on in the same way. thomas ryder
  • Score: 12

9:33am Thu 11 Jul 13

thomas ryder says...

Lawlesschat wrote:
thomas ryder wrote:
Lawlesschat wrote:
thomas ryder wrote: Why dont you do a proper bit of reporting and go up there and take some pics of the surrounding streets and back streets.. they are full of peoples rubbish every where...
If you're that fussed, get a black bin bag and some gloves and go collect the litter! Do your part if the council is failing, and I am in no way defending the council let that be known! Years ago people used to maintain their streets by picking up litter, brushing their back streets! Nowadays, it's a case of 'its not mine so I'm not picking it up'. It would people 10 mins a week to keep their streets clean if everyone agreed to it, reality is though they won't!
Like to come along and help me ?
I often clean up the mess in Halliwell road!
Oh yeah im sure you do....
[quote][p][bold]Lawlesschat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomas ryder[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lawlesschat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomas ryder[/bold] wrote: Why dont you do a proper bit of reporting and go up there and take some pics of the surrounding streets and back streets.. they are full of peoples rubbish every where...[/p][/quote]If you're that fussed, get a black bin bag and some gloves and go collect the litter! Do your part if the council is failing, and I am in no way defending the council let that be known! Years ago people used to maintain their streets by picking up litter, brushing their back streets! Nowadays, it's a case of 'its not mine so I'm not picking it up'. It would people 10 mins a week to keep their streets clean if everyone agreed to it, reality is though they won't![/p][/quote]Like to come along and help me ?[/p][/quote]I often clean up the mess in Halliwell road![/p][/quote]Oh yeah im sure you do.... thomas ryder
  • Score: 6

10:01am Thu 11 Jul 13

boltonchap says...

Not all that long ago Halliwell had millions upon millions invested in the area as part of the city challenge regeneration initiative. Seems to me that was a total waste of money. Some may say not so and just think how bad the area would be had that investment not been made: this only ignores the
Not all that long ago Halliwell had millions upon millions invested in the area as part of the city challenge regeneration initiative. Seems to me that was a total waste of money. Some may say not so and just think how bad the area would be had that investment not been made: this only ignores the boltonchap
  • Score: 13

10:08am Thu 11 Jul 13

boltonchap says...

Sorry pressed wrong button.
This ignores the key issue. Sure out of control immigration has been a contributory factor as have multiculturalism and political correctness. It's all about the underclass. All ethnic groups have an underclass. They have no morals, no boundaries and contempt for law and order. Halliwell has more than its' fair share let's face it.
I don't have a solution, well not one that could be expressed here anyway. Whatever the solution it needs to be radical and our politicians don't have the balls to articulate or implement.
Sorry pressed wrong button. This ignores the key issue. Sure out of control immigration has been a contributory factor as have multiculturalism and political correctness. It's all about the underclass. All ethnic groups have an underclass. They have no morals, no boundaries and contempt for law and order. Halliwell has more than its' fair share let's face it. I don't have a solution, well not one that could be expressed here anyway. Whatever the solution it needs to be radical and our politicians don't have the balls to articulate or implement. boltonchap
  • Score: 41

10:10am Thu 11 Jul 13

Reed Lover says...

Halliwell is an area of relatively old terraced houses and those houses tend to be at the bottom end of the market. It is obvious that poorer people are going to be housed in the area because of this cost factor and the more deprived an area then statistically there is going to be more crime. People who have not moved away, either for financial or sentimental reasons, will bear the brunt of this and the Council and the Police should have recognised this. Instead they have waited years and years to make what will probably be a token gesture. Anti-social behaviour is probably the biggest issue as the burgeoning Eastern European community tend not to be well-versed in British traditions and taboos, like not dropping bags of rubbish and leaving them where they land, not urinating in public and not running brothels in every other house.
There is a high degree of unemployment in the area across all ages yet the Bargain Boozes are flourishing, the local drug trade booming and judging by the happy people stood drinking and smoking outside The Lord Raglan and others the pub trade is booming. Not to mention the plethora of takeaways that really add to the colour and vibrancy of the locale and the barrage of newly-rented Mercs and Beamers screaming up and down the road that really get one's pulse racing!
Clearly someone messed up badly by letting this situation develop and real money needs spending on real action to turn this area around before it is too late. Councils, Planners, Police, Community Leaders, I am pointing my finger at you!
Halliwell is an area of relatively old terraced houses and those houses tend to be at the bottom end of the market. It is obvious that poorer people are going to be housed in the area because of this cost factor and the more deprived an area then statistically there is going to be more crime. People who have not moved away, either for financial or sentimental reasons, will bear the brunt of this and the Council and the Police should have recognised this. Instead they have waited years and years to make what will probably be a token gesture. Anti-social behaviour is probably the biggest issue as the burgeoning Eastern European community tend not to be well-versed in British traditions and taboos, like not dropping bags of rubbish and leaving them where they land, not urinating in public and not running brothels in every other house. There is a high degree of unemployment in the area across all ages yet the Bargain Boozes are flourishing, the local drug trade booming and judging by the happy people stood drinking and smoking outside The Lord Raglan and others the pub trade is booming. Not to mention the plethora of takeaways that really add to the colour and vibrancy of the locale and the barrage of newly-rented Mercs and Beamers screaming up and down the road that really get one's pulse racing! Clearly someone messed up badly by letting this situation develop and real money needs spending on real action to turn this area around before it is too late. Councils, Planners, Police, Community Leaders, I am pointing my finger at you! Reed Lover
  • Score: 34

10:20am Thu 11 Jul 13

Reed Lover says...

I must also point out that many of the people who have lived around Halliwell Rd for a long time do pick up litter, do report anti-social behaviour and criminal activity. So whilst there is always more that people in any community can do, the problem does not lie with locals turning a blind eye. The Police and Councils know where the problems are they just need to push more resources towards tackling it. I, for one, do not want to see Police merely going for the low-hanging fruit of litter louts, illegal parking and loitering (all real issues in the area), they must prioritise drug dealing, prostitution and theft.
I must also point out that many of the people who have lived around Halliwell Rd for a long time do pick up litter, do report anti-social behaviour and criminal activity. So whilst there is always more that people in any community can do, the problem does not lie with locals turning a blind eye. The Police and Councils know where the problems are they just need to push more resources towards tackling it. I, for one, do not want to see Police merely going for the low-hanging fruit of litter louts, illegal parking and loitering (all real issues in the area), they must prioritise drug dealing, prostitution and theft. Reed Lover
  • Score: 21

10:29am Thu 11 Jul 13

Jim271 says...

On Halliwell Road there is only one cash machine within a mile, as a result Bolton Council or to be more exact their employer mercenaries NSL (NCP in disguise) target this machine every Monday, Thursday and Friday morning between 7am and 9am in order to catch people parked outside using the machine to issue fines. They use a CCTV smart car which means they are filming people using a cash point which is an invasion of privacy. They also often park on the double yellow lines opposite to get a better angle.
This is an attack on hard working people who already pay tax to Bolton Council as well as income tax, it’s an attempt to claw back the money NCP paid for the contract(bribed). The net result is people will not shop on Halliwell Road so the only businesses are Off Licences, money laudering takeaways, pound shops and money transfer/house letting.
If you visit the junction on Halliwell/Backburn Road on a Friday the road is blocked with vehicles visiting the Mosqueparked both on the lines and the pavement blocking wheelchairs and pushchairs yet you never see any Traffic Wardens(or whatever they call themselves) down there.
The mills all closed so there is no work except Warburtons who employ casual East European Labour like most factories as they are cheaper and “flexible”.
The smoking ban means people are now outside the pubs creating more noise and anti-social behaviour (visit on a warm Saturday/Sunday afternoon).
Now the library has been closed down.
The final irony is that Hennon Street Labour Club is now going to be an Islamic Only Girls school dispite objections from the local residents.
The Council don’t want takeaways within 400m of schools yet hand out alcohol licences like they are going out of fashion, so the kids won’t get fat but they can still drink and smoke.
I have been a resident of Halliwell all my life and in the last 10 years it has become a Ghetto.
They should build a wall along Moss Bank Way to separate it from Smithills.

And a few extra police patrols is really going to make a difference.
On Halliwell Road there is only one cash machine within a mile, as a result Bolton Council or to be more exact their employer mercenaries NSL (NCP in disguise) target this machine every Monday, Thursday and Friday morning between 7am and 9am in order to catch people parked outside using the machine to issue fines. They use a CCTV smart car which means they are filming people using a cash point which is an invasion of privacy. They also often park on the double yellow lines opposite to get a better angle. This is an attack on hard working people who already pay tax to Bolton Council as well as income tax, it’s an attempt to claw back the money NCP paid for the contract(bribed). The net result is people will not shop on Halliwell Road so the only businesses are Off Licences, money laudering takeaways, pound shops and money transfer/house letting. If you visit the junction on Halliwell/Backburn Road on a Friday the road is blocked with vehicles visiting the Mosqueparked both on the lines and the pavement blocking wheelchairs and pushchairs yet you never see any Traffic Wardens(or whatever they call themselves) down there. The mills all closed so there is no work except Warburtons who employ casual East European Labour like most factories as they are cheaper and “flexible”. The smoking ban means people are now outside the pubs creating more noise and anti-social behaviour (visit on a warm Saturday/Sunday afternoon). Now the library has been closed down. The final irony is that Hennon Street Labour Club is now going to be an Islamic Only Girls school dispite objections from the local residents. The Council don’t want takeaways within 400m of schools yet hand out alcohol licences like they are going out of fashion, so the kids won’t get fat but they can still drink and smoke. I have been a resident of Halliwell all my life and in the last 10 years it has become a Ghetto. They should build a wall along Moss Bank Way to separate it from Smithills. And a few extra police patrols is really going to make a difference. Jim271
  • Score: 32

10:31am Thu 11 Jul 13

Nicola32 says...

yeah alot of white families have given up because they have lost control of their kids,yes there is alot of unemployment around so the blow their benefits on drugs and alcohol because they have nothing better to do.yes those unruly nasty chav kids need a slap.yes those immigrants are taking the mickey....we are all aware of the social problems we face but the local government are too spineless to get stuck in and change things.they make sink estates so nicer people can live somewhere else nice and quietly whilst all the poor live in one space...ghettos more or less.its all about the money for councils and basically as per usual they dont like spending.the police..well they arrest and the courts do naff all.society is well and truely broken and nobody wants to fix it.the muslim corner shop man straight thru to the greedy supermarket chains are making a packet from the money spent on fags and alcohol.they dont care.its just all about money and not about making a positive change
yeah alot of white families have given up because they have lost control of their kids,yes there is alot of unemployment around so the blow their benefits on drugs and alcohol because they have nothing better to do.yes those unruly nasty chav kids need a slap.yes those immigrants are taking the mickey....we are all aware of the social problems we face but the local government are too spineless to get stuck in and change things.they make sink estates so nicer people can live somewhere else nice and quietly whilst all the poor live in one space...ghettos more or less.its all about the money for councils and basically as per usual they dont like spending.the police..well they arrest and the courts do naff all.society is well and truely broken and nobody wants to fix it.the muslim corner shop man straight thru to the greedy supermarket chains are making a packet from the money spent on fags and alcohol.they dont care.its just all about money and not about making a positive change Nicola32
  • Score: 9

10:52am Thu 11 Jul 13

georgethebrave says...

Why does this report not mention the ghetto up Daubhill, that's just as bad? Also Halliwell rd is an extension to the ghetto of Blackburn rd that has spread further than Halliwell rd, it has spread all the way from Blackburn rd through to Chorley Old rd and beyond! But what does one expect when we are governed by labour who love these people?
Why does this report not mention the ghetto up Daubhill, that's just as bad? Also Halliwell rd is an extension to the ghetto of Blackburn rd that has spread further than Halliwell rd, it has spread all the way from Blackburn rd through to Chorley Old rd and beyond! But what does one expect when we are governed by labour who love these people? georgethebrave
  • Score: 25

10:57am Thu 11 Jul 13

Chrome1 says...

The problem around Halliwell Road cannot be attributed to a particular demographic. It has always been a problem area. However, we can point as many fingers as we want but that won't rid the problem. I know of many good people who try to make a difference in that area but alas a poverty stricken town will always breed ghettos such as these.
The problem around Halliwell Road cannot be attributed to a particular demographic. It has always been a problem area. However, we can point as many fingers as we want but that won't rid the problem. I know of many good people who try to make a difference in that area but alas a poverty stricken town will always breed ghettos such as these. Chrome1
  • Score: 5

10:59am Thu 11 Jul 13

Reed Lover says...

Ghettos?

Grow up!
Ghettos? Grow up! Reed Lover
  • Score: -11

11:21am Thu 11 Jul 13

thomas ryder says...

georgethebrave wrote:
Why does this report not mention the ghetto up Daubhill, that's just as bad? Also Halliwell rd is an extension to the ghetto of Blackburn rd that has spread further than Halliwell rd, it has spread all the way from Blackburn rd through to Chorley Old rd and beyond! But what does one expect when we are governed by labour who love these people?
Well said George!
[quote][p][bold]georgethebrave[/bold] wrote: Why does this report not mention the ghetto up Daubhill, that's just as bad? Also Halliwell rd is an extension to the ghetto of Blackburn rd that has spread further than Halliwell rd, it has spread all the way from Blackburn rd through to Chorley Old rd and beyond! But what does one expect when we are governed by labour who love these people?[/p][/quote]Well said George! thomas ryder
  • Score: 16

11:38am Thu 11 Jul 13

rnorris says...

If the people of Halliwell Rd think its bad now, just wait until 2014 when the riff raff from Bulgaria and Romania arrive. Britain has become the dust bin of europe whether we like it or not...............su
re the people who will say we should be tolerant and welcome these people to Bolton dont live on Halliwell Road................
.Not in my back yard springs to mind.
If the people of Halliwell Rd think its bad now, just wait until 2014 when the riff raff from Bulgaria and Romania arrive. Britain has become the dust bin of europe whether we like it or not...............su re the people who will say we should be tolerant and welcome these people to Bolton dont live on Halliwell Road................ .Not in my back yard springs to mind. rnorris
  • Score: 33

11:39am Thu 11 Jul 13

thomas ryder says...

Jim271 wrote:
On Halliwell Road there is only one cash machine within a mile, as a result Bolton Council or to be more exact their employer mercenaries NSL (NCP in disguise) target this machine every Monday, Thursday and Friday morning between 7am and 9am in order to catch people parked outside using the machine to issue fines. They use a CCTV smart car which means they are filming people using a cash point which is an invasion of privacy. They also often park on the double yellow lines opposite to get a better angle. This is an attack on hard working people who already pay tax to Bolton Council as well as income tax, it’s an attempt to claw back the money NCP paid for the contract(bribed). The net result is people will not shop on Halliwell Road so the only businesses are Off Licences, money laudering takeaways, pound shops and money transfer/house letting. If you visit the junction on Halliwell/Backburn Road on a Friday the road is blocked with vehicles visiting the Mosqueparked both on the lines and the pavement blocking wheelchairs and pushchairs yet you never see any Traffic Wardens(or whatever they call themselves) down there. The mills all closed so there is no work except Warburtons who employ casual East European Labour like most factories as they are cheaper and “flexible”. The smoking ban means people are now outside the pubs creating more noise and anti-social behaviour (visit on a warm Saturday/Sunday afternoon). Now the library has been closed down. The final irony is that Hennon Street Labour Club is now going to be an Islamic Only Girls school dispite objections from the local residents. The Council don’t want takeaways within 400m of schools yet hand out alcohol licences like they are going out of fashion, so the kids won’t get fat but they can still drink and smoke. I have been a resident of Halliwell all my life and in the last 10 years it has become a Ghetto. They should build a wall along Moss Bank Way to separate it from Smithills. And a few extra police patrols is really going to make a difference.
Spot on!
[quote][p][bold]Jim271[/bold] wrote: On Halliwell Road there is only one cash machine within a mile, as a result Bolton Council or to be more exact their employer mercenaries NSL (NCP in disguise) target this machine every Monday, Thursday and Friday morning between 7am and 9am in order to catch people parked outside using the machine to issue fines. They use a CCTV smart car which means they are filming people using a cash point which is an invasion of privacy. They also often park on the double yellow lines opposite to get a better angle. This is an attack on hard working people who already pay tax to Bolton Council as well as income tax, it’s an attempt to claw back the money NCP paid for the contract(bribed). The net result is people will not shop on Halliwell Road so the only businesses are Off Licences, money laudering takeaways, pound shops and money transfer/house letting. If you visit the junction on Halliwell/Backburn Road on a Friday the road is blocked with vehicles visiting the Mosqueparked both on the lines and the pavement blocking wheelchairs and pushchairs yet you never see any Traffic Wardens(or whatever they call themselves) down there. The mills all closed so there is no work except Warburtons who employ casual East European Labour like most factories as they are cheaper and “flexible”. The smoking ban means people are now outside the pubs creating more noise and anti-social behaviour (visit on a warm Saturday/Sunday afternoon). Now the library has been closed down. The final irony is that Hennon Street Labour Club is now going to be an Islamic Only Girls school dispite objections from the local residents. The Council don’t want takeaways within 400m of schools yet hand out alcohol licences like they are going out of fashion, so the kids won’t get fat but they can still drink and smoke. I have been a resident of Halliwell all my life and in the last 10 years it has become a Ghetto. They should build a wall along Moss Bank Way to separate it from Smithills. And a few extra police patrols is really going to make a difference.[/p][/quote]Spot on! thomas ryder
  • Score: 12

11:45am Thu 11 Jul 13

sueie1 says...

I live on one of the streets off Halliwell Rd and can only say that if we could we would move tomorrow, I opened my baby's bedroom window the other day and witnessed a drug deal taking place right outside my house, they saw me see them and couldn't have cared less, my partner was sat on the wall at the from of our house and approached by an Eastern European male and asked if he would like a cheap bj off a sexy lady! As if that wasn't bad enough there are used needles in the back street as well as fly tipping, nobody seems to care
I live on one of the streets off Halliwell Rd and can only say that if we could we would move tomorrow, I opened my baby's bedroom window the other day and witnessed a drug deal taking place right outside my house, they saw me see them and couldn't have cared less, my partner was sat on the wall at the from of our house and approached by an Eastern European male and asked if he would like a cheap bj off a sexy lady! As if that wasn't bad enough there are used needles in the back street as well as fly tipping, nobody seems to care sueie1
  • Score: 23

11:57am Thu 11 Jul 13

BoltonBev says...

Chrome1 wrote:
The problem around Halliwell Road cannot be attributed to a particular demographic. It has always been a problem area. However, we can point as many fingers as we want but that won't rid the problem. I know of many good people who try to make a difference in that area but alas a poverty stricken town will always breed ghettos such as these.
Halliwell hasn't always been a problem area at all AND it still has very many good points and areas.
[quote][p][bold]Chrome1[/bold] wrote: The problem around Halliwell Road cannot be attributed to a particular demographic. It has always been a problem area. However, we can point as many fingers as we want but that won't rid the problem. I know of many good people who try to make a difference in that area but alas a poverty stricken town will always breed ghettos such as these.[/p][/quote]Halliwell hasn't always been a problem area at all AND it still has very many good points and areas. BoltonBev
  • Score: -1

12:17pm Thu 11 Jul 13

BNP(British- National- PAK) says...

Whats a "Ghetto" ???
You bigots, where do think you're living Moss-side or Cheetham Hill.
See if you can talk your gibberish to them man.
Bolton never has or will be a Ghetto you childish minded fools.
Ha!ha!ha! what a bunch of Bananas!!!
Whats a "Ghetto" ??? You bigots, where do think you're living Moss-side or Cheetham Hill. See if you can talk your gibberish to them man. Bolton never has or will be a Ghetto you childish minded fools. Ha!ha!ha! what a bunch of Bananas!!! BNP(British- National- PAK)
  • Score: -25

12:17pm Thu 11 Jul 13

wsw69 says...

Society is p**s poor because humans make society p**s poor.

We've had decades of bone idle, work shy scum, breeding kids that in all probability will turn out the same. Multiculturalism, in the majority of time doesn't work. Eastern europeans have completely different values, methods and morals, which to a large extent aren't conducive to ours.

Europe is a complete disaster, and looking at the last 40 years of our membership of that club tells a grim story.

There is not an easy answer, there is not a short term answer and I have no idea how to repair it.
Society is p**s poor because humans make society p**s poor. We've had decades of bone idle, work shy scum, breeding kids that in all probability will turn out the same. Multiculturalism, in the majority of time doesn't work. Eastern europeans have completely different values, methods and morals, which to a large extent aren't conducive to ours. Europe is a complete disaster, and looking at the last 40 years of our membership of that club tells a grim story. There is not an easy answer, there is not a short term answer and I have no idea how to repair it. wsw69
  • Score: 21

12:20pm Thu 11 Jul 13

BNP(British- National- PAK) says...

Lawlesschat wrote:
thomas ryder wrote:
Lawlesschat wrote:
thomas ryder wrote: Why dont you do a proper bit of reporting and go up there and take some pics of the surrounding streets and back streets.. they are full of peoples rubbish every where...
If you're that fussed, get a black bin bag and some gloves and go collect the litter! Do your part if the council is failing, and I am in no way defending the council let that be known! Years ago people used to maintain their streets by picking up litter, brushing their back streets! Nowadays, it's a case of 'its not mine so I'm not picking it up'. It would people 10 mins a week to keep their streets clean if everyone agreed to it, reality is though they won't!
Like to come along and help me ?
No, Not particularly!

But some action into your words!

Stop being so lazy and trying to find excuses to get out of it!

Go on ..,, do it!!! Go on lad.
Some body has just been TANGOED!!!
Ha!Ha!Ha!
[quote][p][bold]Lawlesschat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomas ryder[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lawlesschat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomas ryder[/bold] wrote: Why dont you do a proper bit of reporting and go up there and take some pics of the surrounding streets and back streets.. they are full of peoples rubbish every where...[/p][/quote]If you're that fussed, get a black bin bag and some gloves and go collect the litter! Do your part if the council is failing, and I am in no way defending the council let that be known! Years ago people used to maintain their streets by picking up litter, brushing their back streets! Nowadays, it's a case of 'its not mine so I'm not picking it up'. It would people 10 mins a week to keep their streets clean if everyone agreed to it, reality is though they won't![/p][/quote]Like to come along and help me ?[/p][/quote]No, Not particularly! But some action into your words! Stop being so lazy and trying to find excuses to get out of it! Go on ..,, do it!!! Go on lad.[/p][/quote]Some body has just been TANGOED!!! Ha!Ha!Ha! BNP(British- National- PAK)
  • Score: -9

12:37pm Thu 11 Jul 13

SleepingThunder says...

Areas are becoming ghettos & people have no pride in there area or town we have become selfish as a society "As long as it's not my problem i will throw my rubbish where i like & do as i please" some do not even wish to intergrate into our society & it is others who have to make allowances for there culture & this im no "grass" is just bullsh*t because when it comes to saving there skins they all sing like canerys.This has been a cultural & social timebomb waiting to happen.
Areas are becoming ghettos & people have no pride in there area or town we have become selfish as a society "As long as it's not my problem i will throw my rubbish where i like & do as i please" some do not even wish to intergrate into our society & it is others who have to make allowances for there culture & this im no "grass" is just bullsh*t because when it comes to saving there skins they all sing like canerys.This has been a cultural & social timebomb waiting to happen. SleepingThunder
  • Score: 17

1:41pm Thu 11 Jul 13

MarkAllRead says...

"Shaheen Sameja, neighbourhood manager for Halliwell, said Bolton had a “strong tradition” of welcoming new communities to the area"

We've not exactly had much choice. But of course, this diversity has been great for the town right? Yes? Hmm....
"Shaheen Sameja, neighbourhood manager for Halliwell, said Bolton had a “strong tradition” of welcoming new communities to the area" We've not exactly had much choice. But of course, this diversity has been great for the town right? Yes? Hmm.... MarkAllRead
  • Score: 36

1:42pm Thu 11 Jul 13

Towny1981 says...

sueie1 wrote:
I live on one of the streets off Halliwell Rd and can only say that if we could we would move tomorrow, I opened my baby's bedroom window the other day and witnessed a drug deal taking place right outside my house, they saw me see them and couldn't have cared less, my partner was sat on the wall at the from of our house and approached by an Eastern European male and asked if he would like a cheap bj off a sexy lady! As if that wasn't bad enough there are used needles in the back street as well as fly tipping, nobody seems to care
This guy who approached your husband....was he a skinny, tall-ish spotty bloke with short dark hair and a face like a rats? If so, he's approached me a couple of times around Heaton, Morrisons car park and Chorley Old Road. He won't do again after I made clear the legal ramifications my actions upon him would have for myself if he did dare approach me again, and I reported the matter to the police.
Vile. I've lived in this area, not a stones throw from Haliwell Rd, all my life (apart from three years at uni) and while the area has aleays drawn white scumbags and Asian scumbags alike, the general scumbag population of all creeds seems to be outnumbering the normal decent people. Even some of the kids (8 - 12 years old) mine knock about with are scumbags.
[quote][p][bold]sueie1[/bold] wrote: I live on one of the streets off Halliwell Rd and can only say that if we could we would move tomorrow, I opened my baby's bedroom window the other day and witnessed a drug deal taking place right outside my house, they saw me see them and couldn't have cared less, my partner was sat on the wall at the from of our house and approached by an Eastern European male and asked if he would like a cheap bj off a sexy lady! As if that wasn't bad enough there are used needles in the back street as well as fly tipping, nobody seems to care[/p][/quote]This guy who approached your husband....was he a skinny, tall-ish spotty bloke with short dark hair and a face like a rats? If so, he's approached me a couple of times around Heaton, Morrisons car park and Chorley Old Road. He won't do again after I made clear the legal ramifications my actions upon him would have for myself if he did dare approach me again, and I reported the matter to the police. Vile. I've lived in this area, not a stones throw from Haliwell Rd, all my life (apart from three years at uni) and while the area has aleays drawn white scumbags and Asian scumbags alike, the general scumbag population of all creeds seems to be outnumbering the normal decent people. Even some of the kids (8 - 12 years old) mine knock about with are scumbags. Towny1981
  • Score: 21

2:18pm Thu 11 Jul 13

Sirrius7 says...

I certainly don`t welcome new communities in Bolton. Send them somewhere else for a change.
I certainly don`t welcome new communities in Bolton. Send them somewhere else for a change. Sirrius7
  • Score: 19

3:59pm Thu 11 Jul 13

JohnTheBaptist says...

Nicola32 wrote:
yeah alot of white families have given up because they have lost control of their kids,yes there is alot of unemployment around so the blow their benefits on drugs and alcohol because they have nothing better to do.yes those unruly nasty chav kids need a slap.yes those immigrants are taking the mickey....we are all aware of the social problems we face but the local government are too spineless to get stuck in and change things.they make sink estates so nicer people can live somewhere else nice and quietly whilst all the poor live in one space...ghettos more or less.its all about the money for councils and basically as per usual they dont like spending.the police..well they arrest and the courts do naff all.society is well and truely broken and nobody wants to fix it.the muslim corner shop man straight thru to the greedy supermarket chains are making a packet from the money spent on fags and alcohol.they dont care.its just all about money and not about making a positive change
Why did you have mention "muslim" when it came to the cornershop man?

Why didnt you mention the "christian" scum bags?
[quote][p][bold]Nicola32[/bold] wrote: yeah alot of white families have given up because they have lost control of their kids,yes there is alot of unemployment around so the blow their benefits on drugs and alcohol because they have nothing better to do.yes those unruly nasty chav kids need a slap.yes those immigrants are taking the mickey....we are all aware of the social problems we face but the local government are too spineless to get stuck in and change things.they make sink estates so nicer people can live somewhere else nice and quietly whilst all the poor live in one space...ghettos more or less.its all about the money for councils and basically as per usual they dont like spending.the police..well they arrest and the courts do naff all.society is well and truely broken and nobody wants to fix it.the muslim corner shop man straight thru to the greedy supermarket chains are making a packet from the money spent on fags and alcohol.they dont care.its just all about money and not about making a positive change[/p][/quote]Why did you have mention "muslim" when it came to the cornershop man? Why didnt you mention the "christian" scum bags? JohnTheBaptist
  • Score: -15

4:00pm Thu 11 Jul 13

buckfuzzby says...

Wolfie190 wrote:
We are just importing third world people including the East Europeans and their third world problems and yes I know Bolton pretty much most areas now are full of white British scum and all these groups are being paid to breed the more kids they have the more money they get.
You not heard of commas, full stops or apostrophes? your article makes no sense without them.
[quote][p][bold]Wolfie190[/bold] wrote: We are just importing third world people including the East Europeans and their third world problems and yes I know Bolton pretty much most areas now are full of white British scum and all these groups are being paid to breed the more kids they have the more money they get.[/p][/quote]You not heard of commas, full stops or apostrophes? your article makes no sense without them. buckfuzzby
  • Score: 0

4:00pm Thu 11 Jul 13

JohnTheBaptist says...

georgethebrave wrote:
Why does this report not mention the ghetto up Daubhill, that's just as bad? Also Halliwell rd is an extension to the ghetto of Blackburn rd that has spread further than Halliwell rd, it has spread all the way from Blackburn rd through to Chorley Old rd and beyond! But what does one expect when we are governed by labour who love these people?
The ghettos on Derby street dont contain white christian alcoholics and prostitutes.
[quote][p][bold]georgethebrave[/bold] wrote: Why does this report not mention the ghetto up Daubhill, that's just as bad? Also Halliwell rd is an extension to the ghetto of Blackburn rd that has spread further than Halliwell rd, it has spread all the way from Blackburn rd through to Chorley Old rd and beyond! But what does one expect when we are governed by labour who love these people?[/p][/quote]The ghettos on Derby street dont contain white christian alcoholics and prostitutes. JohnTheBaptist
  • Score: 14

4:27pm Thu 11 Jul 13

buckfuzzby says...

SleepingThunder wrote:
Areas are becoming ghettos & people have no pride in there area or town we have become selfish as a society "As long as it's not my problem i will throw my rubbish where i like & do as i please" some do not even wish to intergrate into our society & it is others who have to make allowances for there culture & this im no "grass" is just bullsh*t because when it comes to saving there skins they all sing like canerys.This has been a cultural & social timebomb waiting to happen.
Oh! dear, "saving there skins" should read "saving THEIR skins", what are "CANERYS" ? I suggest you mean CANARIES.....
[quote][p][bold]SleepingThunder[/bold] wrote: Areas are becoming ghettos & people have no pride in there area or town we have become selfish as a society "As long as it's not my problem i will throw my rubbish where i like & do as i please" some do not even wish to intergrate into our society & it is others who have to make allowances for there culture & this im no "grass" is just bullsh*t because when it comes to saving there skins they all sing like canerys.This has been a cultural & social timebomb waiting to happen.[/p][/quote]Oh! dear, "saving there skins" should read "saving THEIR skins", what are "CANERYS" ? I suggest you mean CANARIES..... buckfuzzby
  • Score: -7

4:44pm Thu 11 Jul 13

georgethebrave says...

Ha ha but they do, but it's kept more covert because it doesn't agree with religion and culture, just Google Charlene Downes. In fact it's everywhere, it's in Rochdale, Derby and many other places. Just because people say alcohol and prostitution aren't part of the Mohammedan faith, it didn't stop muslims plying young girls with alcohol and selling them on to their extended family, did it? So alcoholic prostitutes are welcome up Derby st as well as everywhere else, the only problem is you or I don't know about it yet, because we all police and media included have to pretend and lie to preserve the community cohesion!
Ha ha but they do, but it's kept more covert because it doesn't agree with religion and culture, just Google Charlene Downes. In fact it's everywhere, it's in Rochdale, Derby and many other places. Just because people say alcohol and prostitution aren't part of the Mohammedan faith, it didn't stop muslims plying young girls with alcohol and selling them on to their extended family, did it? So alcoholic prostitutes are welcome up Derby st as well as everywhere else, the only problem is you or I don't know about it yet, because we all police and media included have to pretend and lie to preserve the community cohesion! georgethebrave
  • Score: 10

4:58pm Thu 11 Jul 13

georgethebrave says...

But we have to do what they say and abide by their laws! My sister is an English teacher in Dubai and my brother in law is a property developer in Abu Dhabi, and they can't even carry a bottle of water in their vehicle during ramadan, or they get arrested! Our government and lawmakers make it to easy for these people to influence us with their backward, medieval values.
But we have to do what they say and abide by their laws! My sister is an English teacher in Dubai and my brother in law is a property developer in Abu Dhabi, and they can't even carry a bottle of water in their vehicle during ramadan, or they get arrested! Our government and lawmakers make it to easy for these people to influence us with their backward, medieval values. georgethebrave
  • Score: 13

6:22pm Thu 11 Jul 13

grimtown says...

No problem in the 1970s before mass immigration.

Pakistanis and Indians hate eastern european immigration fact.

Well take it from myself life was better with limited multi cultural diversity before new labour and the eu project.

This country will end up like Syria or the Crotia in the 90s.

Watching crime watch the majority of the wanted are asian or eastern european subjects.

The dippers in london and Manchester are all immigrants.

This town is at a tipping point due to mass immigration and a councils failed intergration policies.
Islamic schools muslim only swimming evenings I see more burkhas its like living in the middle east state.
Badge it as rasicist if you wish its what observe.
No problem in the 1970s before mass immigration. Pakistanis and Indians hate eastern european immigration fact. Well take it from myself life was better with limited multi cultural diversity before new labour and the eu project. This country will end up like Syria or the Crotia in the 90s. Watching crime watch the majority of the wanted are asian or eastern european subjects. The dippers in london and Manchester are all immigrants. This town is at a tipping point due to mass immigration and a councils failed intergration policies. Islamic schools muslim only swimming evenings I see more burkhas its like living in the middle east state. Badge it as rasicist if you wish its what observe. grimtown
  • Score: 21

6:27pm Thu 11 Jul 13

grimtown says...

The goevernment ONS said mass immigration was a real problem in Bolton. Yet the council has its head in the sand.
The goevernment ONS said mass immigration was a real problem in Bolton. Yet the council has its head in the sand. grimtown
  • Score: 14

6:36pm Thu 11 Jul 13

sueie1 says...

Towny1981 wrote:
sueie1 wrote:
I live on one of the streets off Halliwell Rd and can only say that if we could we would move tomorrow, I opened my baby's bedroom window the other day and witnessed a drug deal taking place right outside my house, they saw me see them and couldn't have cared less, my partner was sat on the wall at the from of our house and approached by an Eastern European male and asked if he would like a cheap bj off a sexy lady! As if that wasn't bad enough there are used needles in the back street as well as fly tipping, nobody seems to care
This guy who approached your husband....was he a skinny, tall-ish spotty bloke with short dark hair and a face like a rats? If so, he's approached me a couple of times around Heaton, Morrisons car park and Chorley Old Road. He won't do again after I made clear the legal ramifications my actions upon him would have for myself if he did dare approach me again, and I reported the matter to the police.
Vile. I've lived in this area, not a stones throw from Haliwell Rd, all my life (apart from three years at uni) and while the area has aleays drawn white scumbags and Asian scumbags alike, the general scumbag population of all creeds seems to be outnumbering the normal decent people. Even some of the kids (8 - 12 years old) mine knock about with are scumbags.
That is him yes, I have been told that he/they are running a brothel in my street, we even had a man knock on the front door after 11pm one night and ask if we were the brothel because we had our bedroom light on!
[quote][p][bold]Towny1981[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sueie1[/bold] wrote: I live on one of the streets off Halliwell Rd and can only say that if we could we would move tomorrow, I opened my baby's bedroom window the other day and witnessed a drug deal taking place right outside my house, they saw me see them and couldn't have cared less, my partner was sat on the wall at the from of our house and approached by an Eastern European male and asked if he would like a cheap bj off a sexy lady! As if that wasn't bad enough there are used needles in the back street as well as fly tipping, nobody seems to care[/p][/quote]This guy who approached your husband....was he a skinny, tall-ish spotty bloke with short dark hair and a face like a rats? If so, he's approached me a couple of times around Heaton, Morrisons car park and Chorley Old Road. He won't do again after I made clear the legal ramifications my actions upon him would have for myself if he did dare approach me again, and I reported the matter to the police. Vile. I've lived in this area, not a stones throw from Haliwell Rd, all my life (apart from three years at uni) and while the area has aleays drawn white scumbags and Asian scumbags alike, the general scumbag population of all creeds seems to be outnumbering the normal decent people. Even some of the kids (8 - 12 years old) mine knock about with are scumbags.[/p][/quote]That is him yes, I have been told that he/they are running a brothel in my street, we even had a man knock on the front door after 11pm one night and ask if we were the brothel because we had our bedroom light on! sueie1
  • Score: 13

6:58pm Thu 11 Jul 13

georgethebrave says...

Enough said!!
Enough said!! georgethebrave
  • Score: 0

7:08pm Thu 11 Jul 13

Reality50 says...

In the 1970's and 80's Halliwell was a good example of an area with good community spirit where all races and cultures got on fairly well. I spent a lot of my childhood up there and loved the Mermaid chippy and also in my 20's the road was known for having the best pub crawl in town. Halliwell started to go wrong 20 years ago and it has got progressively worse as Muslims and East Europeans have now become the majority in large swathes of Halliwell. When i was young,Breightmet was considered the worst place in Bolton but nowadays Breightmet is a lot better and Halliwell is now in my view the worst part of town. 30 years ago there was a fair level of immigration there but now it is at overload. Multiculturalism cannot work when local Brits become the minority. I blame the Labour Party under Blair and then Brown for the immigration crisis and the lack of social cohesion and community spirit today. Areas such as Halliwell are now scrapheaps and beyond help.
In the 1970's and 80's Halliwell was a good example of an area with good community spirit where all races and cultures got on fairly well. I spent a lot of my childhood up there and loved the Mermaid chippy and also in my 20's the road was known for having the best pub crawl in town. Halliwell started to go wrong 20 years ago and it has got progressively worse as Muslims and East Europeans have now become the majority in large swathes of Halliwell. When i was young,Breightmet was considered the worst place in Bolton but nowadays Breightmet is a lot better and Halliwell is now in my view the worst part of town. 30 years ago there was a fair level of immigration there but now it is at overload. Multiculturalism cannot work when local Brits become the minority. I blame the Labour Party under Blair and then Brown for the immigration crisis and the lack of social cohesion and community spirit today. Areas such as Halliwell are now scrapheaps and beyond help. Reality50
  • Score: 22

7:08pm Thu 11 Jul 13

Lawlesschat says...

thomas ryder wrote:
georgethebrave wrote:
Why does this report not mention the ghetto up Daubhill, that's just as bad? Also Halliwell rd is an extension to the ghetto of Blackburn rd that has spread further than Halliwell rd, it has spread all the way from Blackburn rd through to Chorley Old rd and beyond! But what does one expect when we are governed by labour who love these people?
Well said George!
By applauding that Numpty you've done yourself an intellectual injustice!

Georgethewimp is yet another example of a coward hiding behind a keyboard spouting his bitter resentment of his own downfall, whilst venting his anger, his failures in life at a whole community.

Because an area houses minorities does not for equal it to a Ghetto! There are no restrictions on movements on anyone entering or leaving such areas!

If you are attributing the demise of the said areas as a result of them being occupied by 'Asian's' or any other ethnic group you are mistaken, gravely so!

Have another gander at Halliwell road, the majority of businesses on their are run by the ethnics, as are the ones in Daubhill, effectively paying business tax on the buildings and soforth etc. so effectively keeping the area alive and contributed to the town as a whole!

You people live sheltered lives, you forget that these businesses only sold to the 'ethnics' as a result of the white population no longer having the ability in waking up to what you may call hard graft to keep a business alive!

It is from these white families, that the scum have emerged, yes the ones you see, gaunt and deathly pale who wonder around the streets trophying a can of super strength who take no shame in reaping the rewards of the tax we ultimately pay to them to do sod all, each and every day!

Look at the Asian community, more and more are headed to university, in comparison to their white neighbours I'd say that's a massive difference in ambition!

You chose to live a certain lifestyle, then reap the rewards of it to, the outcome, as some would call it "a Ghetto"!
[quote][p][bold]thomas ryder[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]georgethebrave[/bold] wrote: Why does this report not mention the ghetto up Daubhill, that's just as bad? Also Halliwell rd is an extension to the ghetto of Blackburn rd that has spread further than Halliwell rd, it has spread all the way from Blackburn rd through to Chorley Old rd and beyond! But what does one expect when we are governed by labour who love these people?[/p][/quote]Well said George![/p][/quote]By applauding that Numpty you've done yourself an intellectual injustice! Georgethewimp is yet another example of a coward hiding behind a keyboard spouting his bitter resentment of his own downfall, whilst venting his anger, his failures in life at a whole community. Because an area houses minorities does not for equal it to a Ghetto! There are no restrictions on movements on anyone entering or leaving such areas! If you are attributing the demise of the said areas as a result of them being occupied by 'Asian's' or any other ethnic group you are mistaken, gravely so! Have another gander at Halliwell road, the majority of businesses on their are run by the ethnics, as are the ones in Daubhill, effectively paying business tax on the buildings and soforth etc. so effectively keeping the area alive and contributed to the town as a whole! You people live sheltered lives, you forget that these businesses only sold to the 'ethnics' as a result of the white population no longer having the ability in waking up to what you may call hard graft to keep a business alive! It is from these white families, that the scum have emerged, yes the ones you see, gaunt and deathly pale who wonder around the streets trophying a can of super strength who take no shame in reaping the rewards of the tax we ultimately pay to them to do sod all, each and every day! Look at the Asian community, more and more are headed to university, in comparison to their white neighbours I'd say that's a massive difference in ambition! You chose to live a certain lifestyle, then reap the rewards of it to, the outcome, as some would call it "a Ghetto"! Lawlesschat
  • Score: -10

7:15pm Thu 11 Jul 13

Lawlesschat says...

Reality50 wrote:
In the 1970's and 80's Halliwell was a good example of an area with good community spirit where all races and cultures got on fairly well. I spent a lot of my childhood up there and loved the Mermaid chippy and also in my 20's the road was known for having the best pub crawl in town. Halliwell started to go wrong 20 years ago and it has got progressively worse as Muslims and East Europeans have now become the majority in large swathes of Halliwell. When i was young,Breightmet was considered the worst place in Bolton but nowadays Breightmet is a lot better and Halliwell is now in my view the worst part of town. 30 years ago there was a fair level of immigration there but now it is at overload. Multiculturalism cannot work when local Brits become the minority. I blame the Labour Party under Blair and then Brown for the immigration crisis and the lack of social cohesion and community spirit today. Areas such as Halliwell are now scrapheaps and beyond help.
You think Breightmet is BETTER an area to live than Halliwell road?

What planet are you on son?

Albeit Halliwell Road is a *hit tip I think you might be exagurating slightly comparing it to Breightmet, have you seen the likes that live there?

So clouded in judgement you are!!!
[quote][p][bold]Reality50[/bold] wrote: In the 1970's and 80's Halliwell was a good example of an area with good community spirit where all races and cultures got on fairly well. I spent a lot of my childhood up there and loved the Mermaid chippy and also in my 20's the road was known for having the best pub crawl in town. Halliwell started to go wrong 20 years ago and it has got progressively worse as Muslims and East Europeans have now become the majority in large swathes of Halliwell. When i was young,Breightmet was considered the worst place in Bolton but nowadays Breightmet is a lot better and Halliwell is now in my view the worst part of town. 30 years ago there was a fair level of immigration there but now it is at overload. Multiculturalism cannot work when local Brits become the minority. I blame the Labour Party under Blair and then Brown for the immigration crisis and the lack of social cohesion and community spirit today. Areas such as Halliwell are now scrapheaps and beyond help.[/p][/quote]You think Breightmet is BETTER an area to live than Halliwell road? What planet are you on son? Albeit Halliwell Road is a *hit tip I think you might be exagurating slightly comparing it to Breightmet, have you seen the likes that live there? So clouded in judgement you are!!! Lawlesschat
  • Score: -3

7:23pm Thu 11 Jul 13

Reality50 says...

As far as the blame game goes i try not to blame the immigrants as they were invited here largely by the Labour Party to stiffen up their vote in elections as the white working class has abandoned Labour in droves the last 20 years in favour of not voting. The Labour vote in Bolton in many areas is largely ethnic. The left wing don't care that places like Halliwell are overrun with immigrants as the middle class Guardian reading types of the Left are delighted to see the erosion of white working class communities and cultures. The enemy is the Labour Party and on a wider scale the EU,NWO and Marxism. Immigrants are just the product of left of centre social experimentation. The working class white British people need to vote for a political alternative be that UKIP BNP or whoever. Labour Tory and Lib Dem will just pour more petrol on the bonfire.
As far as the blame game goes i try not to blame the immigrants as they were invited here largely by the Labour Party to stiffen up their vote in elections as the white working class has abandoned Labour in droves the last 20 years in favour of not voting. The Labour vote in Bolton in many areas is largely ethnic. The left wing don't care that places like Halliwell are overrun with immigrants as the middle class Guardian reading types of the Left are delighted to see the erosion of white working class communities and cultures. The enemy is the Labour Party and on a wider scale the EU,NWO and Marxism. Immigrants are just the product of left of centre social experimentation. The working class white British people need to vote for a political alternative be that UKIP BNP or whoever. Labour Tory and Lib Dem will just pour more petrol on the bonfire. Reality50
  • Score: 16

7:30pm Thu 11 Jul 13

Lawlesschat says...

thomas ryder wrote:
Lawlesschat wrote:
Thomas, you need to snap out of this culture of blame! It's been going on for years, where has it left you, what have you gained? Nothing at all, and you know I am right. If the local (concerned) residents began to sweep up the areas outside their houses then this would encourage others to do the same!
Stop living in denial and dreamland like all the rest. We have a major problem here that has been ignored for many years with Halliwell area being used as a dumping ground for every one who arrives in Bolton. Would not be this way had nice ares like yours were dumped on in the same way.
What area is that then?

How can you make such a stupendous statement not knowing the slightest thing about me? How stupidly stupid are you exactly??
[quote][p][bold]thomas ryder[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lawlesschat[/bold] wrote: Thomas, you need to snap out of this culture of blame! It's been going on for years, where has it left you, what have you gained? Nothing at all, and you know I am right. If the local (concerned) residents began to sweep up the areas outside their houses then this would encourage others to do the same![/p][/quote]Stop living in denial and dreamland like all the rest. We have a major problem here that has been ignored for many years with Halliwell area being used as a dumping ground for every one who arrives in Bolton. Would not be this way had nice ares like yours were dumped on in the same way.[/p][/quote]What area is that then? How can you make such a stupendous statement not knowing the slightest thing about me? How stupidly stupid are you exactly?? Lawlesschat
  • Score: -5

7:32pm Thu 11 Jul 13

Reality50 says...

Having lived in Breightmet and Halliwell i would say Halliwell is worse yes!. Breightmet was a dump in the 80's but it certainly does not have the crime issues of places such as Halliwell,Great Lever and Deane nowadays. Would i feel safer walking Bury Road or Halliwell Rd after dark? I know which i would choose and it wouldn't be Halliwell!
Having lived in Breightmet and Halliwell i would say Halliwell is worse yes!. Breightmet was a dump in the 80's but it certainly does not have the crime issues of places such as Halliwell,Great Lever and Deane nowadays. Would i feel safer walking Bury Road or Halliwell Rd after dark? I know which i would choose and it wouldn't be Halliwell! Reality50
  • Score: 7

7:33pm Thu 11 Jul 13

Lawlesschat says...

thomas ryder wrote:
Lawlesschat wrote:
thomas ryder wrote:
Lawlesschat wrote:
thomas ryder wrote: Why dont you do a proper bit of reporting and go up there and take some pics of the surrounding streets and back streets.. they are full of peoples rubbish every where...
If you're that fussed, get a black bin bag and some gloves and go collect the litter! Do your part if the council is failing, and I am in no way defending the council let that be known! Years ago people used to maintain their streets by picking up litter, brushing their back streets! Nowadays, it's a case of 'its not mine so I'm not picking it up'. It would people 10 mins a week to keep their streets clean if everyone agreed to it, reality is though they won't!
Like to come along and help me ?
I often clean up the mess in Halliwell road!
Oh yeah im sure you do....
Yes I do!

Don't call me a liar!!! You scoundrel.
[quote][p][bold]thomas ryder[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lawlesschat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomas ryder[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lawlesschat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomas ryder[/bold] wrote: Why dont you do a proper bit of reporting and go up there and take some pics of the surrounding streets and back streets.. they are full of peoples rubbish every where...[/p][/quote]If you're that fussed, get a black bin bag and some gloves and go collect the litter! Do your part if the council is failing, and I am in no way defending the council let that be known! Years ago people used to maintain their streets by picking up litter, brushing their back streets! Nowadays, it's a case of 'its not mine so I'm not picking it up'. It would people 10 mins a week to keep their streets clean if everyone agreed to it, reality is though they won't![/p][/quote]Like to come along and help me ?[/p][/quote]I often clean up the mess in Halliwell road![/p][/quote]Oh yeah im sure you do....[/p][/quote]Yes I do! Don't call me a liar!!! You scoundrel. Lawlesschat
  • Score: -7

7:38pm Thu 11 Jul 13

davoovad says...

Lawlesschat wrote:
Reality50 wrote:
In the 1970's and 80's Halliwell was a good example of an area with good community spirit where all races and cultures got on fairly well. I spent a lot of my childhood up there and loved the Mermaid chippy and also in my 20's the road was known for having the best pub crawl in town. Halliwell started to go wrong 20 years ago and it has got progressively worse as Muslims and East Europeans have now become the majority in large swathes of Halliwell. When i was young,Breightmet was considered the worst place in Bolton but nowadays Breightmet is a lot better and Halliwell is now in my view the worst part of town. 30 years ago there was a fair level of immigration there but now it is at overload. Multiculturalism cannot work when local Brits become the minority. I blame the Labour Party under Blair and then Brown for the immigration crisis and the lack of social cohesion and community spirit today. Areas such as Halliwell are now scrapheaps and beyond help.
You think Breightmet is BETTER an area to live than Halliwell road?

What planet are you on son?

Albeit Halliwell Road is a *hit tip I think you might be exagurating slightly comparing it to Breightmet, have you seen the likes that live there?

So clouded in judgement you are!!!
Why don't you **** off you know it all **** **** and a half, why do you suppose noone replys to your wall of text posts ? answer - because your a **** !!
[quote][p][bold]Lawlesschat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Reality50[/bold] wrote: In the 1970's and 80's Halliwell was a good example of an area with good community spirit where all races and cultures got on fairly well. I spent a lot of my childhood up there and loved the Mermaid chippy and also in my 20's the road was known for having the best pub crawl in town. Halliwell started to go wrong 20 years ago and it has got progressively worse as Muslims and East Europeans have now become the majority in large swathes of Halliwell. When i was young,Breightmet was considered the worst place in Bolton but nowadays Breightmet is a lot better and Halliwell is now in my view the worst part of town. 30 years ago there was a fair level of immigration there but now it is at overload. Multiculturalism cannot work when local Brits become the minority. I blame the Labour Party under Blair and then Brown for the immigration crisis and the lack of social cohesion and community spirit today. Areas such as Halliwell are now scrapheaps and beyond help.[/p][/quote]You think Breightmet is BETTER an area to live than Halliwell road? What planet are you on son? Albeit Halliwell Road is a *hit tip I think you might be exagurating slightly comparing it to Breightmet, have you seen the likes that live there? So clouded in judgement you are!!![/p][/quote]Why don't you **** off you know it all **** **** and a half, why do you suppose noone replys to your wall of text posts ? answer - because your a **** !! davoovad
  • Score: -5

7:39pm Thu 11 Jul 13

Lawlesschat says...

Reality50 wrote:
Having lived in Breightmet and Halliwell i would say Halliwell is worse yes!. Breightmet was a dump in the 80's but it certainly does not have the crime issues of places such as Halliwell,Great Lever and Deane nowadays. Would i feel safer walking Bury Road or Halliwell Rd after dark? I know which i would choose and it wouldn't be Halliwell!
You've probably fathered some of the scum which now occupy Breightmet and I bet they've bred and then their rats have bred too, well considering they tend to have babies in Breightmet before the age of 14!!

You should consider taking your family members for sterilisation, honestly! This would contribute massively to help ease the problem we face today in Bolton!

This also goes to the rest of you racist, dole scrounging no worths!

You are taking this country into a whirl of *hite from which we won't be able to recover! Do your part, sterilise yourselves and your current offspring!

Now that's what I call being patriotic.
[quote][p][bold]Reality50[/bold] wrote: Having lived in Breightmet and Halliwell i would say Halliwell is worse yes!. Breightmet was a dump in the 80's but it certainly does not have the crime issues of places such as Halliwell,Great Lever and Deane nowadays. Would i feel safer walking Bury Road or Halliwell Rd after dark? I know which i would choose and it wouldn't be Halliwell![/p][/quote]You've probably fathered some of the scum which now occupy Breightmet and I bet they've bred and then their rats have bred too, well considering they tend to have babies in Breightmet before the age of 14!! You should consider taking your family members for sterilisation, honestly! This would contribute massively to help ease the problem we face today in Bolton! This also goes to the rest of you racist, dole scrounging no worths! You are taking this country into a whirl of *hite from which we won't be able to recover! Do your part, sterilise yourselves and your current offspring! Now that's what I call being patriotic. Lawlesschat
  • Score: -17

7:46pm Thu 11 Jul 13

Lawlesschat says...

davoovad wrote:
Lawlesschat wrote:
Reality50 wrote:
In the 1970's and 80's Halliwell was a good example of an area with good community spirit where all races and cultures got on fairly well. I spent a lot of my childhood up there and loved the Mermaid chippy and also in my 20's the road was known for having the best pub crawl in town. Halliwell started to go wrong 20 years ago and it has got progressively worse as Muslims and East Europeans have now become the majority in large swathes of Halliwell. When i was young,Breightmet was considered the worst place in Bolton but nowadays Breightmet is a lot better and Halliwell is now in my view the worst part of town. 30 years ago there was a fair level of immigration there but now it is at overload. Multiculturalism cannot work when local Brits become the minority. I blame the Labour Party under Blair and then Brown for the immigration crisis and the lack of social cohesion and community spirit today. Areas such as Halliwell are now scrapheaps and beyond help.
You think Breightmet is BETTER an area to live than Halliwell road?

What planet are you on son?

Albeit Halliwell Road is a *hit tip I think you might be exagurating slightly comparing it to Breightmet, have you seen the likes that live there?

So clouded in judgement you are!!!
Why don't you **** off you know it all **** **** and a half, why do you suppose noone replys to your wall of text posts ? answer - because your a **** !!
OH MY DAYS!!!

Someone's fallen out of bed on the wrong side sometime late in the afternoon.

No need for such aggression you mindless nobody! For the record, people have responded and you may find you too have responded, today and on previous occasions! So what does that suggest about you!

Seemingly I'm too good for you to engage in a discourse of any intellect, albeit I do find myself lowering my standards to meet on a level with those of your ilk.

Why don't you go back to drinking from your can of cheap ale? You're better suited to that than trying to engage on a forum, albeit full of numpties like yourself.
[quote][p][bold]davoovad[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lawlesschat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Reality50[/bold] wrote: In the 1970's and 80's Halliwell was a good example of an area with good community spirit where all races and cultures got on fairly well. I spent a lot of my childhood up there and loved the Mermaid chippy and also in my 20's the road was known for having the best pub crawl in town. Halliwell started to go wrong 20 years ago and it has got progressively worse as Muslims and East Europeans have now become the majority in large swathes of Halliwell. When i was young,Breightmet was considered the worst place in Bolton but nowadays Breightmet is a lot better and Halliwell is now in my view the worst part of town. 30 years ago there was a fair level of immigration there but now it is at overload. Multiculturalism cannot work when local Brits become the minority. I blame the Labour Party under Blair and then Brown for the immigration crisis and the lack of social cohesion and community spirit today. Areas such as Halliwell are now scrapheaps and beyond help.[/p][/quote]You think Breightmet is BETTER an area to live than Halliwell road? What planet are you on son? Albeit Halliwell Road is a *hit tip I think you might be exagurating slightly comparing it to Breightmet, have you seen the likes that live there? So clouded in judgement you are!!![/p][/quote]Why don't you **** off you know it all **** **** and a half, why do you suppose noone replys to your wall of text posts ? answer - because your a **** !![/p][/quote]OH MY DAYS!!! Someone's fallen out of bed on the wrong side sometime late in the afternoon. No need for such aggression you mindless nobody! For the record, people have responded and you may find you too have responded, today and on previous occasions! So what does that suggest about you! Seemingly I'm too good for you to engage in a discourse of any intellect, albeit I do find myself lowering my standards to meet on a level with those of your ilk. Why don't you go back to drinking from your can of cheap ale? You're better suited to that than trying to engage on a forum, albeit full of numpties like yourself. Lawlesschat
  • Score: 0

7:53pm Thu 11 Jul 13

Lawlesschat says...

You had me fooled to believe (at one time) that you possessed at least half a head, how wrong was I.

OH Dearest Davoovad, I do pitty you.

Tut, sighhhhhh .......
You had me fooled to believe (at one time) that you possessed at least half a head, how wrong was I. OH Dearest Davoovad, I do pitty you. Tut, sighhhhhh ....... Lawlesschat
  • Score: -6

8:05pm Thu 11 Jul 13

Reality50 says...

Lawlesschat is one of those traitors that votes Labour no doubt!. No self respecting white working class person with half a brain at least would vote for those sell out toerags. You can spot these socialists from miles away as their true colours show! They rant on about "white doley criminal scum" while ignoring the fact most drug dealers and sex offenders and other social vermin seem to be immigrants these days. Britain sends record amounts out in foreign aid while our own kind starve and use foodbanks. Bolton and Britain is doomed.
Lawlesschat is one of those traitors that votes Labour no doubt!. No self respecting white working class person with half a brain at least would vote for those sell out toerags. You can spot these socialists from miles away as their true colours show! They rant on about "white doley criminal scum" while ignoring the fact most drug dealers and sex offenders and other social vermin seem to be immigrants these days. Britain sends record amounts out in foreign aid while our own kind starve and use foodbanks. Bolton and Britain is doomed. Reality50
  • Score: 20

8:17pm Thu 11 Jul 13

Lawlesschat says...

Reality50 wrote:
Lawlesschat is one of those traitors that votes Labour no doubt!. No self respecting white working class person with half a brain at least would vote for those sell out toerags. You can spot these socialists from miles away as their true colours show! They rant on about "white doley criminal scum" while ignoring the fact most drug dealers and sex offenders and other social vermin seem to be immigrants these days. Britain sends record amounts out in foreign aid while our own kind starve and use foodbanks. Bolton and Britain is doomed.
I quote;
"while ignoring the fact most drug dealers and sex offenders and other social vermin seem to be immigrants these days"

Is that a fact .... Please show me what source you gathered your information from?

Why don't you make a request under the 'Freedom of Information act" to your local police force, concerning the issues you've just written about. Once you've got them please do come back with the statistical truth. But you won't, because you'll look even more silly than what you did making that statement in the first place.

Give Me Strength!!!
[quote][p][bold]Reality50[/bold] wrote: Lawlesschat is one of those traitors that votes Labour no doubt!. No self respecting white working class person with half a brain at least would vote for those sell out toerags. You can spot these socialists from miles away as their true colours show! They rant on about "white doley criminal scum" while ignoring the fact most drug dealers and sex offenders and other social vermin seem to be immigrants these days. Britain sends record amounts out in foreign aid while our own kind starve and use foodbanks. Bolton and Britain is doomed.[/p][/quote]I quote; "while ignoring the fact most drug dealers and sex offenders and other social vermin seem to be immigrants these days" Is that a fact .... Please show me what source you gathered your information from? Why don't you make a request under the 'Freedom of Information act" to your local police force, concerning the issues you've just written about. Once you've got them please do come back with the statistical truth. But you won't, because you'll look even more silly than what you did making that statement in the first place. Give Me Strength!!! Lawlesschat
  • Score: -8

8:22pm Thu 11 Jul 13

Reality50 says...

Throughout this thread many people have made good and bad points however what i see throughout Britain now is a sense of hopelessness amongst the white British working class. There is no ambition because there are no jobs and little hope. The banks won't lend to aspiring working class entrepeneurs. My dad got started with a bank loan when he was young and built his business up. Muslims use the sharia banking method and that is far more friendly to people who want to start a business. In Bolton there are few if any major employers now. It is the white working class that is now the most socially disadvantaged class. Immigrants as well as the white middle class are ahead in the pecking order. I remember the bleak times of the mid 1890's but at least then you could start your own business and banks were prepared to lend. The country is on its knees and only withdrawing from the EU,scrapping foreign aid,banning immigration from Islamic countries and investing in apprenticeships for youngsters and encouraging banks to promote small business start ups is the only way Britain will recover. Also shutting down the parasitic employment agencies would help as it would force employers to take people on full time. The "love in" between capitalist business and the employment agencies stops people getting into careers. The short termism mentality amongst employers and business needs to stop. Invest in our young people and invest in their potential.
Throughout this thread many people have made good and bad points however what i see throughout Britain now is a sense of hopelessness amongst the white British working class. There is no ambition because there are no jobs and little hope. The banks won't lend to aspiring working class entrepeneurs. My dad got started with a bank loan when he was young and built his business up. Muslims use the sharia banking method and that is far more friendly to people who want to start a business. In Bolton there are few if any major employers now. It is the white working class that is now the most socially disadvantaged class. Immigrants as well as the white middle class are ahead in the pecking order. I remember the bleak times of the mid 1890's but at least then you could start your own business and banks were prepared to lend. The country is on its knees and only withdrawing from the EU,scrapping foreign aid,banning immigration from Islamic countries and investing in apprenticeships for youngsters and encouraging banks to promote small business start ups is the only way Britain will recover. Also shutting down the parasitic employment agencies would help as it would force employers to take people on full time. The "love in" between capitalist business and the employment agencies stops people getting into careers. The short termism mentality amongst employers and business needs to stop. Invest in our young people and invest in their potential. Reality50
  • Score: 16

8:24pm Thu 11 Jul 13

Lawlesschat says...

May I just add, we live in a democracy and I am entitled to vote whomever I wish and another right is not being dictated to by a pathetic peice of trash who shadows under the name of good working folk, claiming that he speaks on behalf of the entire population!

You speak on behalf of nobody except you and your like, who thankfully are marginally thin in numbers!

Don't you dare tell me I'm a traitor, I do more for this country than you'll ever do in several lifetimes over, You filthy waste of space!

I hear Davoovad calling you to join him in yet another all night mid week bender!!

Go on spend your dole money best way you know how!
May I just add, we live in a democracy and I am entitled to vote whomever I wish and another right is not being dictated to by a pathetic peice of trash who shadows under the name of good working folk, claiming that he speaks on behalf of the entire population! You speak on behalf of nobody except you and your like, who thankfully are marginally thin in numbers! Don't you dare tell me I'm a traitor, I do more for this country than you'll ever do in several lifetimes over, You filthy waste of space! I hear Davoovad calling you to join him in yet another all night mid week bender!! Go on spend your dole money best way you know how! Lawlesschat
  • Score: -8

8:25pm Thu 11 Jul 13

Reality50 says...

"I remember the bleak times of the mid 1890's". Meant 1980's. Even i'm not that old!
"I remember the bleak times of the mid 1890's". Meant 1980's. Even i'm not that old! Reality50
  • Score: 4

8:28pm Thu 11 Jul 13

Lawlesschat says...

Reality50 wrote:
Throughout this thread many people have made good and bad points however what i see throughout Britain now is a sense of hopelessness amongst the white British working class. There is no ambition because there are no jobs and little hope. The banks won't lend to aspiring working class entrepeneurs. My dad got started with a bank loan when he was young and built his business up. Muslims use the sharia banking method and that is far more friendly to people who want to start a business. In Bolton there are few if any major employers now. It is the white working class that is now the most socially disadvantaged class. Immigrants as well as the white middle class are ahead in the pecking order. I remember the bleak times of the mid 1890's but at least then you could start your own business and banks were prepared to lend. The country is on its knees and only withdrawing from the EU,scrapping foreign aid,banning immigration from Islamic countries and investing in apprenticeships for youngsters and encouraging banks to promote small business start ups is the only way Britain will recover. Also shutting down the parasitic employment agencies would help as it would force employers to take people on full time. The "love in" between capitalist business and the employment agencies stops people getting into careers. The short termism mentality amongst employers and business needs to stop. Invest in our young people and invest in their potential.
So you remember the bleak times of the 1890's! So how old does that make you?
Lie after lie after ....
[quote][p][bold]Reality50[/bold] wrote: Throughout this thread many people have made good and bad points however what i see throughout Britain now is a sense of hopelessness amongst the white British working class. There is no ambition because there are no jobs and little hope. The banks won't lend to aspiring working class entrepeneurs. My dad got started with a bank loan when he was young and built his business up. Muslims use the sharia banking method and that is far more friendly to people who want to start a business. In Bolton there are few if any major employers now. It is the white working class that is now the most socially disadvantaged class. Immigrants as well as the white middle class are ahead in the pecking order. I remember the bleak times of the mid 1890's but at least then you could start your own business and banks were prepared to lend. The country is on its knees and only withdrawing from the EU,scrapping foreign aid,banning immigration from Islamic countries and investing in apprenticeships for youngsters and encouraging banks to promote small business start ups is the only way Britain will recover. Also shutting down the parasitic employment agencies would help as it would force employers to take people on full time. The "love in" between capitalist business and the employment agencies stops people getting into careers. The short termism mentality amongst employers and business needs to stop. Invest in our young people and invest in their potential.[/p][/quote]So you remember the bleak times of the 1890's! So how old does that make you? Lie after lie after .... Lawlesschat
  • Score: -12

8:33pm Thu 11 Jul 13

infiltrator says...

Jim271 wrote:
On Halliwell Road there is only one cash machine within a mile, as a result Bolton Council or to be more exact their employer mercenaries NSL (NCP in disguise) target this machine every Monday, Thursday and Friday morning between 7am and 9am in order to catch people parked outside using the machine to issue fines. They use a CCTV smart car which means they are filming people using a cash point which is an invasion of privacy. They also often park on the double yellow lines opposite to get a better angle.
This is an attack on hard working people who already pay tax to Bolton Council as well as income tax, it’s an attempt to claw back the money NCP paid for the contract(bribed). The net result is people will not shop on Halliwell Road so the only businesses are Off Licences, money laudering takeaways, pound shops and money transfer/house letting.
If you visit the junction on Halliwell/Backburn Road on a Friday the road is blocked with vehicles visiting the Mosqueparked both on the lines and the pavement blocking wheelchairs and pushchairs yet you never see any Traffic Wardens(or whatever they call themselves) down there.
The mills all closed so there is no work except Warburtons who employ casual East European Labour like most factories as they are cheaper and “flexible”.
The smoking ban means people are now outside the pubs creating more noise and anti-social behaviour (visit on a warm Saturday/Sunday afternoon).
Now the library has been closed down.
The final irony is that Hennon Street Labour Club is now going to be an Islamic Only Girls school dispite objections from the local residents.
The Council don’t want takeaways within 400m of schools yet hand out alcohol licences like they are going out of fashion, so the kids won’t get fat but they can still drink and smoke.
I have been a resident of Halliwell all my life and in the last 10 years it has become a Ghetto.
They should build a wall along Moss Bank Way to separate it from Smithills.

And a few extra police patrols is really going to make a difference.
"They use a CCTV smart car which means they are filming people using a cash point which is an invasion of privacy"
Jim271, are you a Licenced CCTV operator? because the Camera is being used for peoples protection. If they are indeed lienced to operate by using CCTV that way, then NO law has been broken.
[quote][p][bold]Jim271[/bold] wrote: On Halliwell Road there is only one cash machine within a mile, as a result Bolton Council or to be more exact their employer mercenaries NSL (NCP in disguise) target this machine every Monday, Thursday and Friday morning between 7am and 9am in order to catch people parked outside using the machine to issue fines. They use a CCTV smart car which means they are filming people using a cash point which is an invasion of privacy. They also often park on the double yellow lines opposite to get a better angle. This is an attack on hard working people who already pay tax to Bolton Council as well as income tax, it’s an attempt to claw back the money NCP paid for the contract(bribed). The net result is people will not shop on Halliwell Road so the only businesses are Off Licences, money laudering takeaways, pound shops and money transfer/house letting. If you visit the junction on Halliwell/Backburn Road on a Friday the road is blocked with vehicles visiting the Mosqueparked both on the lines and the pavement blocking wheelchairs and pushchairs yet you never see any Traffic Wardens(or whatever they call themselves) down there. The mills all closed so there is no work except Warburtons who employ casual East European Labour like most factories as they are cheaper and “flexible”. The smoking ban means people are now outside the pubs creating more noise and anti-social behaviour (visit on a warm Saturday/Sunday afternoon). Now the library has been closed down. The final irony is that Hennon Street Labour Club is now going to be an Islamic Only Girls school dispite objections from the local residents. The Council don’t want takeaways within 400m of schools yet hand out alcohol licences like they are going out of fashion, so the kids won’t get fat but they can still drink and smoke. I have been a resident of Halliwell all my life and in the last 10 years it has become a Ghetto. They should build a wall along Moss Bank Way to separate it from Smithills. And a few extra police patrols is really going to make a difference.[/p][/quote]"They use a CCTV smart car which means they are filming people using a cash point which is an invasion of privacy" Jim271, are you a Licenced CCTV operator? because the Camera is being used for peoples protection. If they are indeed lienced to operate by using CCTV that way, then NO law has been broken. infiltrator
  • Score: -5

8:42pm Thu 11 Jul 13

Lawlesschat says...

Reality50 wrote:
Throughout this thread many people have made good and bad points however what i see throughout Britain now is a sense of hopelessness amongst the white British working class. There is no ambition because there are no jobs and little hope. The banks won't lend to aspiring working class entrepeneurs. My dad got started with a bank loan when he was young and built his business up. Muslims use the sharia banking method and that is far more friendly to people who want to start a business. In Bolton there are few if any major employers now. It is the white working class that is now the most socially disadvantaged class. Immigrants as well as the white middle class are ahead in the pecking order. I remember the bleak times of the mid 1890's but at least then you could start your own business and banks were prepared to lend. The country is on its knees and only withdrawing from the EU,scrapping foreign aid,banning immigration from Islamic countries and investing in apprenticeships for youngsters and encouraging banks to promote small business start ups is the only way Britain will recover. Also shutting down the parasitic employment agencies would help as it would force employers to take people on full time. The "love in" between capitalist business and the employment agencies stops people getting into careers. The short termism mentality amongst employers and business needs to stop. Invest in our young people and invest in their potential.
The white working class are not the most deprived in society!
Minorities are willing to work at the minimum wage abd even lower! scum from BAD backgrounds are not!
Minorities are willing to do the menial jobs, scum from BAD backgrounds are not!
Truth is, Bolton has more than its fair share of social housing area's! Where the parents instil no ethics or discipline in their offspring!
These kids see their poor examples of parents as role models and to go to work or find employment is alien to them, instead they deem it acceptable to steal, rob and burgle from the working class whilst also taking handouts in the name of job seekers allowance!

If people are forced to go to food banks, how about sacrifice the alcohol, the cigarettes, their sky subscriptions?

They won't do that, these people see no shame in taking handouts, as long as they can live above their means they'll do awt to acheive it, I have absolutely no sympathy whatsoever!

What happened to families looking after one another, if someone's on their *rse why aren't family helping out?

See this where you should take example from the Asian community, at least they know how to keep others backs in times of need!!
[quote][p][bold]Reality50[/bold] wrote: Throughout this thread many people have made good and bad points however what i see throughout Britain now is a sense of hopelessness amongst the white British working class. There is no ambition because there are no jobs and little hope. The banks won't lend to aspiring working class entrepeneurs. My dad got started with a bank loan when he was young and built his business up. Muslims use the sharia banking method and that is far more friendly to people who want to start a business. In Bolton there are few if any major employers now. It is the white working class that is now the most socially disadvantaged class. Immigrants as well as the white middle class are ahead in the pecking order. I remember the bleak times of the mid 1890's but at least then you could start your own business and banks were prepared to lend. The country is on its knees and only withdrawing from the EU,scrapping foreign aid,banning immigration from Islamic countries and investing in apprenticeships for youngsters and encouraging banks to promote small business start ups is the only way Britain will recover. Also shutting down the parasitic employment agencies would help as it would force employers to take people on full time. The "love in" between capitalist business and the employment agencies stops people getting into careers. The short termism mentality amongst employers and business needs to stop. Invest in our young people and invest in their potential.[/p][/quote]The white working class are not the most deprived in society! Minorities are willing to work at the minimum wage abd even lower! scum from BAD backgrounds are not! Minorities are willing to do the menial jobs, scum from BAD backgrounds are not! Truth is, Bolton has more than its fair share of social housing area's! Where the parents instil no ethics or discipline in their offspring! These kids see their poor examples of parents as role models and to go to work or find employment is alien to them, instead they deem it acceptable to steal, rob and burgle from the working class whilst also taking handouts in the name of job seekers allowance! If people are forced to go to food banks, how about sacrifice the alcohol, the cigarettes, their sky subscriptions? They won't do that, these people see no shame in taking handouts, as long as they can live above their means they'll do awt to acheive it, I have absolutely no sympathy whatsoever! What happened to families looking after one another, if someone's on their *rse why aren't family helping out? See this where you should take example from the Asian community, at least they know how to keep others backs in times of need!! Lawlesschat
  • Score: -8

8:44pm Thu 11 Jul 13

grimtown says...

Cliff Morris should be so proud of his ward.

What a waanker he signed Bolton up to mass immigrartion with asylum seekers suppport services applicants arriving in the bus loads under the radar of the cover of night.

He has bollocksed this town i feel sorry for the white british residents of halliwell.
Cliff Morris should be so proud of his ward. What a waanker he signed Bolton up to mass immigrartion with asylum seekers suppport services applicants arriving in the bus loads under the radar of the cover of night. He has bollocksed this town i feel sorry for the white british residents of halliwell. grimtown
  • Score: 16

8:48pm Thu 11 Jul 13

Lawlesschat says...

Something that everyone seems to be confused about,

White working class is not the same as White non working class!

The latter are also known as the scrote's, the chavs the druggies and soforth! These people do not seek to work not will they!

Unfortunately the majority if them by any stretch of the imagination stem from white British backgrounds!
Something that everyone seems to be confused about, White working class is not the same as White non working class! The latter are also known as the scrote's, the chavs the druggies and soforth! These people do not seek to work not will they! Unfortunately the majority if them by any stretch of the imagination stem from white British backgrounds! Lawlesschat
  • Score: -5

9:00pm Thu 11 Jul 13

grimtown says...

Lawlesschat wrote:
Something that everyone seems to be confused about,

White working class is not the same as White non working class!

The latter are also known as the scrote's, the chavs the druggies and soforth! These people do not seek to work not will they!

Unfortunately the majority if them by any stretch of the imagination stem from white British backgrounds!
All the white British workers moved out because the Pakistanis moved in, this is well documented !

No hard working British white family with young children want to live near a mosque or islamic school feeling it is like a middle eastern country with indimidating Burkhas.

Drugs are rife in the Islamic community as well.

I wouldnt want my son going to an Islamic school.
[quote][p][bold]Lawlesschat[/bold] wrote: Something that everyone seems to be confused about, White working class is not the same as White non working class! The latter are also known as the scrote's, the chavs the druggies and soforth! These people do not seek to work not will they! Unfortunately the majority if them by any stretch of the imagination stem from white British backgrounds![/p][/quote]All the white British workers moved out because the Pakistanis moved in, this is well documented ! No hard working British white family with young children want to live near a mosque or islamic school feeling it is like a middle eastern country with indimidating Burkhas. Drugs are rife in the Islamic community as well. I wouldnt want my son going to an Islamic school. grimtown
  • Score: 10

9:13pm Thu 11 Jul 13

Lawlesschat says...

grimtown wrote:
Lawlesschat wrote:
Something that everyone seems to be confused about,

White working class is not the same as White non working class!

The latter are also known as the scrote's, the chavs the druggies and soforth! These people do not seek to work not will they!

Unfortunately the majority if them by any stretch of the imagination stem from white British backgrounds!
All the white British workers moved out because the Pakistanis moved in, this is well documented !

No hard working British white family with young children want to live near a mosque or islamic school feeling it is like a middle eastern country with indimidating Burkhas.

Drugs are rife in the Islamic community as well.

I wouldnt want my son going to an Islamic school.
That just demonstrates you ignorance as a being!

"All the white British moved out because the pakistsni's moved in"

Exactly my point, and thus what created devide and segregation, the lacking ability to accept or want to know them when they arrived! You just dig yourself a hole, a huge one at that.

I would suggest that a street full of Asian's or Pakistani's is much a safer one than one filled with you and your ilk my friend!

Late night partying, urinating on the street, loud music, drugs and alcohol abuse! I think the "Pakistani's" are somehow in gratitude to the likes of your parents for making such choices back in the 60's and 70's! You in effect did them a service by packing up and moving!

So, let me guess, your parents moved to Tonge Moor did they? Great choice of area, afterall not many ethnics there eh?

If the white British hadn't "moved out" and stayed put then society would have been much better integrated today!

You have demonstrated a clear example of something referred to as "white fright"!
[quote][p][bold]grimtown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lawlesschat[/bold] wrote: Something that everyone seems to be confused about, White working class is not the same as White non working class! The latter are also known as the scrote's, the chavs the druggies and soforth! These people do not seek to work not will they! Unfortunately the majority if them by any stretch of the imagination stem from white British backgrounds![/p][/quote]All the white British workers moved out because the Pakistanis moved in, this is well documented ! No hard working British white family with young children want to live near a mosque or islamic school feeling it is like a middle eastern country with indimidating Burkhas. Drugs are rife in the Islamic community as well. I wouldnt want my son going to an Islamic school.[/p][/quote]That just demonstrates you ignorance as a being! "All the white British moved out because the pakistsni's moved in" Exactly my point, and thus what created devide and segregation, the lacking ability to accept or want to know them when they arrived! You just dig yourself a hole, a huge one at that. I would suggest that a street full of Asian's or Pakistani's is much a safer one than one filled with you and your ilk my friend! Late night partying, urinating on the street, loud music, drugs and alcohol abuse! I think the "Pakistani's" are somehow in gratitude to the likes of your parents for making such choices back in the 60's and 70's! You in effect did them a service by packing up and moving! So, let me guess, your parents moved to Tonge Moor did they? Great choice of area, afterall not many ethnics there eh? If the white British hadn't "moved out" and stayed put then society would have been much better integrated today! You have demonstrated a clear example of something referred to as "white fright"! Lawlesschat
  • Score: -10

9:18pm Thu 11 Jul 13

Lawlesschat says...

On a final note, partially out of boredom and the lacking challenge presented before me as well as having 'a life'.

No matter what racist agenda you throw at such forums, somebody will beat you down to ridicule! If not me then certainly someone, history on these pages speaks for itself.

It's high time that you learn to accept that the ethnics are part and parcel of this society, you need to cease in your resentment and get to know them rather than fear them from behind your curtains and computers!

Your arguments are baseless, at best stupid.
On a final note, partially out of boredom and the lacking challenge presented before me as well as having 'a life'. No matter what racist agenda you throw at such forums, somebody will beat you down to ridicule! If not me then certainly someone, history on these pages speaks for itself. It's high time that you learn to accept that the ethnics are part and parcel of this society, you need to cease in your resentment and get to know them rather than fear them from behind your curtains and computers! Your arguments are baseless, at best stupid. Lawlesschat
  • Score: -12

9:24pm Thu 11 Jul 13

buckfuzzby says...

Lawlesschat wrote:
You had me fooled to believe (at one time) that you possessed at least half a head, how wrong was I.

OH Dearest Davoovad, I do pitty you.

Tut, sighhhhhh .......
He may only have half a head.......but, I bet he can spell PITY.
[quote][p][bold]Lawlesschat[/bold] wrote: You had me fooled to believe (at one time) that you possessed at least half a head, how wrong was I. OH Dearest Davoovad, I do pitty you. Tut, sighhhhhh .......[/p][/quote]He may only have half a head.......but, I bet he can spell PITY. buckfuzzby
  • Score: 4

9:26pm Thu 11 Jul 13

Lawlesschat says...

buckfuzzby wrote:
Lawlesschat wrote:
You had me fooled to believe (at one time) that you possessed at least half a head, how wrong was I.

OH Dearest Davoovad, I do pitty you.

Tut, sighhhhhh .......
He may only have half a head.......but, I bet he can spell PITY.
Well done you!
[quote][p][bold]buckfuzzby[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lawlesschat[/bold] wrote: You had me fooled to believe (at one time) that you possessed at least half a head, how wrong was I. OH Dearest Davoovad, I do pitty you. Tut, sighhhhhh .......[/p][/quote]He may only have half a head.......but, I bet he can spell PITY.[/p][/quote]Well done you! Lawlesschat
  • Score: -3

9:30pm Thu 11 Jul 13

buckfuzzby says...

BNP(British- National- PAK) wrote:
Whats a "Ghetto" ???
You bigots, where do think you're living Moss-side or Cheetham Hill.
See if you can talk your gibberish to them man.
Bolton never has or will be a Ghetto you childish minded fools.
Ha!ha!ha! what a bunch of Bananas!!!
Stupidity is not something you are born with.....but, judging by what I read here, It's something you aquire with age.....the older you get the more stupid you become, what age are you now, late sixties, early seventies????
[quote][p][bold]BNP(British- National- PAK)[/bold] wrote: Whats a "Ghetto" ??? You bigots, where do think you're living Moss-side or Cheetham Hill. See if you can talk your gibberish to them man. Bolton never has or will be a Ghetto you childish minded fools. Ha!ha!ha! what a bunch of Bananas!!![/p][/quote]Stupidity is not something you are born with.....but, judging by what I read here, It's something you aquire with age.....the older you get the more stupid you become, what age are you now, late sixties, early seventies???? buckfuzzby
  • Score: 1

9:42pm Thu 11 Jul 13

Jim271 says...

Jim271 wrote:
On Halliwell Road there is only one cash machine within a mile, as a result Bolton Council or to be more exact their employer mercenaries NSL (NCP in disguise) target this machine every Monday, Thursday and Friday morning between 7am and 9am in order to catch people parked outside using the machine to issue fines. They use a CCTV smart car which means they are filming people using a cash point which is an invasion of privacy. They also often park on the double yellow lines opposite to get a better angle.
This is an attack on hard working people who already pay tax to Bolton Council as well as income tax, it’s an attempt to claw back the money NCP paid for the contract(bribed). The net result is people will not shop on Halliwell Road so the only businesses are Off Licences, money laudering takeaways, pound shops and money transfer/house letting.
If you visit the junction on Halliwell/Backburn Road on a Friday the road is blocked with vehicles visiting the Mosqueparked both on the lines and the pavement blocking wheelchairs and pushchairs yet you never see any Traffic Wardens(or whatever they call themselves) down there.
The mills all closed so there is no work except Warburtons who employ casual East European Labour like most factories as they are cheaper and “flexible”.
The smoking ban means people are now outside the pubs creating more noise and anti-social behaviour (visit on a warm Saturday/Sunday afternoon).
Now the library has been closed down.
The final irony is that Hennon Street Labour Club is now going to be an Islamic Only Girls school dispite objections from the local residents.
The Council don’t want takeaways within 400m of schools yet hand out alcohol licences like they are going out of fashion, so the kids won’t get fat but they can still drink and smoke.
I have been a resident of Halliwell all my life and in the last 10 years it has become a Ghetto.
They should build a wall along Moss Bank Way to separate it from Smithills.

And a few extra police patrols is really going to make a difference.
"They use a CCTV smart car which means they are filming people using a cash point which is an invasion of privacy"
Jim271, are you a Licenced CCTV operator? because the Camera is being used for peoples protection. If they are indeed lienced to operate by using CCTV that way, then NO law has been broken.

INFLITRATOR, I used to be a licensed CCTV operator and I know the capabilities of this vehicle in that it has a 30X zoom lens function, it could read you pin number from 50 feet away, this SMART CAR is there to ISSUE FINES for people using the only cash point on Halliwell Road, it is not their for public protection unless you think NCPs revenue needs protecting, ill bet 100 quid your not a car owner. They wont park it near the Mosque on Friday and issue fines because Coucillor Zharman has to protect his voters.
Jim271 wrote: On Halliwell Road there is only one cash machine within a mile, as a result Bolton Council or to be more exact their employer mercenaries NSL (NCP in disguise) target this machine every Monday, Thursday and Friday morning between 7am and 9am in order to catch people parked outside using the machine to issue fines. They use a CCTV smart car which means they are filming people using a cash point which is an invasion of privacy. They also often park on the double yellow lines opposite to get a better angle. This is an attack on hard working people who already pay tax to Bolton Council as well as income tax, it’s an attempt to claw back the money NCP paid for the contract(bribed). The net result is people will not shop on Halliwell Road so the only businesses are Off Licences, money laudering takeaways, pound shops and money transfer/house letting. If you visit the junction on Halliwell/Backburn Road on a Friday the road is blocked with vehicles visiting the Mosqueparked both on the lines and the pavement blocking wheelchairs and pushchairs yet you never see any Traffic Wardens(or whatever they call themselves) down there. The mills all closed so there is no work except Warburtons who employ casual East European Labour like most factories as they are cheaper and “flexible”. The smoking ban means people are now outside the pubs creating more noise and anti-social behaviour (visit on a warm Saturday/Sunday afternoon). Now the library has been closed down. The final irony is that Hennon Street Labour Club is now going to be an Islamic Only Girls school dispite objections from the local residents. The Council don’t want takeaways within 400m of schools yet hand out alcohol licences like they are going out of fashion, so the kids won’t get fat but they can still drink and smoke. I have been a resident of Halliwell all my life and in the last 10 years it has become a Ghetto. They should build a wall along Moss Bank Way to separate it from Smithills. And a few extra police patrols is really going to make a difference. "They use a CCTV smart car which means they are filming people using a cash point which is an invasion of privacy" Jim271, are you a Licenced CCTV operator? because the Camera is being used for peoples protection. If they are indeed lienced to operate by using CCTV that way, then NO law has been broken. INFLITRATOR, I used to be a licensed CCTV operator and I know the capabilities of this vehicle in that it has a 30X zoom lens function, it could read you pin number from 50 feet away, this SMART CAR is there to ISSUE FINES for people using the only cash point on Halliwell Road, it is not their for public protection unless you think NCPs revenue needs protecting, ill bet 100 quid your not a car owner. They wont park it near the Mosque on Friday and issue fines because Coucillor Zharman has to protect his voters. Jim271
  • Score: 7

9:50pm Thu 11 Jul 13

PMW35/7 says...

Lawlesschat wrote:
On a final note, partially out of boredom and the lacking challenge presented before me as well as having 'a life'.

No matter what racist agenda you throw at such forums, somebody will beat you down to ridicule! If not me then certainly someone, history on these pages speaks for itself.

It's high time that you learn to accept that the ethnics are part and parcel of this society, you need to cease in your resentment and get to know them rather than fear them from behind your curtains and computers!

Your arguments are baseless, at best stupid.
You've been looking down your nose at people on here since 9 o'clock this morning. Shouldn't you go away and live this 'life' that you profess to have, instead of thinking you're getting one over on everyone that comments on her with a different opinion than your?

You are a boring, massively condescending Tw@t. You know that don't you love....?
[quote][p][bold]Lawlesschat[/bold] wrote: On a final note, partially out of boredom and the lacking challenge presented before me as well as having 'a life'. No matter what racist agenda you throw at such forums, somebody will beat you down to ridicule! If not me then certainly someone, history on these pages speaks for itself. It's high time that you learn to accept that the ethnics are part and parcel of this society, you need to cease in your resentment and get to know them rather than fear them from behind your curtains and computers! Your arguments are baseless, at best stupid.[/p][/quote]You've been looking down your nose at people on here since 9 o'clock this morning. Shouldn't you go away and live this 'life' that you profess to have, instead of thinking you're getting one over on everyone that comments on her with a different opinion than your? You are a boring, massively condescending Tw@t. You know that don't you love....? PMW35/7
  • Score: 10

10:28pm Thu 11 Jul 13

BWFC71 says...

Reality50 wrote:
Throughout this thread many people have made good and bad points however what i see throughout Britain now is a sense of hopelessness amongst the white British working class. There is no ambition because there are no jobs and little hope. The banks won't lend to aspiring working class entrepeneurs. My dad got started with a bank loan when he was young and built his business up. Muslims use the sharia banking method and that is far more friendly to people who want to start a business. In Bolton there are few if any major employers now. It is the white working class that is now the most socially disadvantaged class. Immigrants as well as the white middle class are ahead in the pecking order. I remember the bleak times of the mid 1890's but at least then you could start your own business and banks were prepared to lend. The country is on its knees and only withdrawing from the EU,scrapping foreign aid,banning immigration from Islamic countries and investing in apprenticeships for youngsters and encouraging banks to promote small business start ups is the only way Britain will recover. Also shutting down the parasitic employment agencies would help as it would force employers to take people on full time. The "love in" between capitalist business and the employment agencies stops people getting into careers. The short termism mentality amongst employers and business needs to stop. Invest in our young people and invest in their potential.
Nice try but its not teh fault of the EU with regards to immigrants but the fault of our own laws and Government for not keeping an eye on teh ball and not strengtheening the EU laws like Germany, Austria, The Netherlands, France and even Poland have done!!!

Throwing money at teh problem is NOT going to get results, now, thus withdrawing the EU and saving money that way to help solve the problem ic a complete folly!!!

You ought to know now simply withdrawing from teh EU will not mean the end of paying for the club - Iceland, Noway and even Switzerland pay for being part of club of which they are not part of!!!

One cannot ban people immigrating from Islamic countries - in fact I bet you would be surprised which countries that would actually involve, and some of those are actually part of the Commonwealth (ps not the British Commonwealth as that no longer exists and teh British monarchy have no devine right to be head of the Commonwealth)!!! The better way is a points system like Australia, and New Zealand, uses for non-EU members. Remember, also, if we pull out of the EU then we will have to find homes, and jobs, for the 8+ million expats who actually live within the EU under the current treaties (which would become null and void if we left the EU or would cost us the same amount of annual money we currently pay for new treaties!)

With regards to the Job Centre Plus and the benefits I fully support the Dutch system which is basically a one-stop shop. Everyone has one profile and the profile is updated with what benefits when they started and finish and with every job they have or ever had complete with start and end dates. Everything is done online and jobseekers have to mandatory apply for at least 5 jobs a week and attend courses every now and again to recieve their benefits (which are taxed) - just check the UWV website for more information (www uwv nl) which has English pages.


I have to admit I didn't realise that you were over 100 years old, and as such can forgive some of your xenophobic ways.
[quote][p][bold]Reality50[/bold] wrote: Throughout this thread many people have made good and bad points however what i see throughout Britain now is a sense of hopelessness amongst the white British working class. There is no ambition because there are no jobs and little hope. The banks won't lend to aspiring working class entrepeneurs. My dad got started with a bank loan when he was young and built his business up. Muslims use the sharia banking method and that is far more friendly to people who want to start a business. In Bolton there are few if any major employers now. It is the white working class that is now the most socially disadvantaged class. Immigrants as well as the white middle class are ahead in the pecking order. I remember the bleak times of the mid 1890's but at least then you could start your own business and banks were prepared to lend. The country is on its knees and only withdrawing from the EU,scrapping foreign aid,banning immigration from Islamic countries and investing in apprenticeships for youngsters and encouraging banks to promote small business start ups is the only way Britain will recover. Also shutting down the parasitic employment agencies would help as it would force employers to take people on full time. The "love in" between capitalist business and the employment agencies stops people getting into careers. The short termism mentality amongst employers and business needs to stop. Invest in our young people and invest in their potential.[/p][/quote]Nice try but its not teh fault of the EU with regards to immigrants but the fault of our own laws and Government for not keeping an eye on teh ball and not strengtheening the EU laws like Germany, Austria, The Netherlands, France and even Poland have done!!! Throwing money at teh problem is NOT going to get results, now, thus withdrawing the EU and saving money that way to help solve the problem ic a complete folly!!! You ought to know now simply withdrawing from teh EU will not mean the end of paying for the club - Iceland, Noway and even Switzerland pay for being part of club of which they are not part of!!! One cannot ban people immigrating from Islamic countries - in fact I bet you would be surprised which countries that would actually involve, and some of those are actually part of the Commonwealth (ps not the British Commonwealth as that no longer exists and teh British monarchy have no devine right to be head of the Commonwealth)!!! The better way is a points system like Australia, and New Zealand, uses for non-EU members. Remember, also, if we pull out of the EU then we will have to find homes, and jobs, for the 8+ million expats who actually live within the EU under the current treaties (which would become null and void if we left the EU or would cost us the same amount of annual money we currently pay for new treaties!) With regards to the Job Centre Plus and the benefits I fully support the Dutch system which is basically a one-stop shop. Everyone has one profile and the profile is updated with what benefits when they started and finish and with every job they have or ever had complete with start and end dates. Everything is done online and jobseekers have to mandatory apply for at least 5 jobs a week and attend courses every now and again to recieve their benefits (which are taxed) - just check the UWV website for more information (www uwv nl) which has English pages. I have to admit I didn't realise that you were over 100 years old, and as such can forgive some of your xenophobic ways. BWFC71
  • Score: -4

10:34pm Thu 11 Jul 13

NotPCme says...

Just add mass immigration!

Ah the the joys of diversity!

This is what brainwashed English people have voted for over the last 30 yrs!

You reap what you sow!
Just add mass immigration! Ah the the joys of diversity! This is what brainwashed English people have voted for over the last 30 yrs! You reap what you sow! NotPCme
  • Score: 4

10:38pm Thu 11 Jul 13

NotPCme says...

Lawlesschat wrote:
Thomas, you need to snap out of this culture of blame!

It's been going on for years, where has it left you, what have you gained? Nothing at all, and you know I am right.

If the local (concerned) residents began to sweep up the areas outside their houses then this would encourage others to do the same!
English people do they always have and always will!

Places like Halliwell Rd are just third world ghettos.

It's in their genes they can't help it
[quote][p][bold]Lawlesschat[/bold] wrote: Thomas, you need to snap out of this culture of blame! It's been going on for years, where has it left you, what have you gained? Nothing at all, and you know I am right. If the local (concerned) residents began to sweep up the areas outside their houses then this would encourage others to do the same![/p][/quote]English people do they always have and always will! Places like Halliwell Rd are just third world ghettos. It's in their genes they can't help it NotPCme
  • Score: 2

10:38pm Thu 11 Jul 13

davoovad says...

PMW35/7 wrote:
Lawlesschat wrote:
On a final note, partially out of boredom and the lacking challenge presented before me as well as having 'a life'.

No matter what racist agenda you throw at such forums, somebody will beat you down to ridicule! If not me then certainly someone, history on these pages speaks for itself.

It's high time that you learn to accept that the ethnics are part and parcel of this society, you need to cease in your resentment and get to know them rather than fear them from behind your curtains and computers!

Your arguments are baseless, at best stupid.
You've been looking down your nose at people on here since 9 o'clock this morning. Shouldn't you go away and live this 'life' that you profess to have, instead of thinking you're getting one over on everyone that comments on her with a different opinion than your?

You are a boring, massively condescending Tw@t. You know that don't you love....?
And he thinks that by rabbiting on at length about absolute sh1te he's winning some argument when all the time everybody thinks he's just a cvnt, this guy definitely needs deporting, now back to my strong cider and drug binge !!
[quote][p][bold]PMW35/7[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lawlesschat[/bold] wrote: On a final note, partially out of boredom and the lacking challenge presented before me as well as having 'a life'. No matter what racist agenda you throw at such forums, somebody will beat you down to ridicule! If not me then certainly someone, history on these pages speaks for itself. It's high time that you learn to accept that the ethnics are part and parcel of this society, you need to cease in your resentment and get to know them rather than fear them from behind your curtains and computers! Your arguments are baseless, at best stupid.[/p][/quote]You've been looking down your nose at people on here since 9 o'clock this morning. Shouldn't you go away and live this 'life' that you profess to have, instead of thinking you're getting one over on everyone that comments on her with a different opinion than your? You are a boring, massively condescending Tw@t. You know that don't you love....?[/p][/quote]And he thinks that by rabbiting on at length about absolute sh1te he's winning some argument when all the time everybody thinks he's just a cvnt, this guy definitely needs deporting, now back to my strong cider and drug binge !! davoovad
  • Score: 8

10:40pm Thu 11 Jul 13

NotPCme says...

BNP(British- National- PAK) wrote:
Whats a "Ghetto" ???
You bigots, where do think you're living Moss-side or Cheetham Hill.
See if you can talk your gibberish to them man.
Bolton never has or will be a Ghetto you childish minded fools.
Ha!ha!ha! what a bunch of Bananas!!!
No, it's a third world ghetto.
[quote][p][bold]BNP(British- National- PAK)[/bold] wrote: Whats a "Ghetto" ??? You bigots, where do think you're living Moss-side or Cheetham Hill. See if you can talk your gibberish to them man. Bolton never has or will be a Ghetto you childish minded fools. Ha!ha!ha! what a bunch of Bananas!!![/p][/quote]No, it's a third world ghetto. NotPCme
  • Score: 2

10:43pm Thu 11 Jul 13

genesis22 says...

the solution to the problem is stop all benefits to all immigrants who arrived here in the last 15 years, applied retrospectively, no free housing, no free healthcare, stop the lot. All economic freeloaders will be forced into repatriation. All self sufficient immigrants can stay here, they cost the state very little, in other words remove the liabilities we can no longer afford them and the exponential problems generated if they stay will tip this country towards major civil conflicts. You then cut the benefits to everyone else who is fit to work and stop all benefits to single mothers, the state will no longer pay anyone for breeding kids they cannot afford to self support. You then bring in real law and order, serious punishments for criminals who will live in fear of doing wrong, capital and corporal punishment. the entire social welfare system needs restructuring. Bring back trade tariffs and reinvest in our manufacturing base. You halt all special treatment and protection afforded to ethnic groups, the interests of the white majority come first, that is democratic and it is our country, if the ethnics don't like it they are free to go back to their own country. It would require a revolution in political social policies, many laws need burning replaced with new. This country stands on the edge of collapse, major problems require major solutions, the labour party is finished we need new strong, brave leaders who acknowledge the facts prepared to deal with them rather than continually ignoring them - will it happen ? - NO.
the solution to the problem is stop all benefits to all immigrants who arrived here in the last 15 years, applied retrospectively, no free housing, no free healthcare, stop the lot. All economic freeloaders will be forced into repatriation. All self sufficient immigrants can stay here, they cost the state very little, in other words remove the liabilities we can no longer afford them and the exponential problems generated if they stay will tip this country towards major civil conflicts. You then cut the benefits to everyone else who is fit to work and stop all benefits to single mothers, the state will no longer pay anyone for breeding kids they cannot afford to self support. You then bring in real law and order, serious punishments for criminals who will live in fear of doing wrong, capital and corporal punishment. the entire social welfare system needs restructuring. Bring back trade tariffs and reinvest in our manufacturing base. You halt all special treatment and protection afforded to ethnic groups, the interests of the white majority come first, that is democratic and it is our country, if the ethnics don't like it they are free to go back to their own country. It would require a revolution in political social policies, many laws need burning replaced with new. This country stands on the edge of collapse, major problems require major solutions, the labour party is finished we need new strong, brave leaders who acknowledge the facts prepared to deal with them rather than continually ignoring them - will it happen ? - NO. genesis22
  • Score: 8

10:47pm Thu 11 Jul 13

NotPCme says...

You can take a third world person out of a third world country but you can't .......... You know the rest!
You can take a third world person out of a third world country but you can't .......... You know the rest! NotPCme
  • Score: 6

10:50pm Thu 11 Jul 13

PMW35/7 says...

davoovad wrote:
PMW35/7 wrote:
Lawlesschat wrote:
On a final note, partially out of boredom and the lacking challenge presented before me as well as having 'a life'.

No matter what racist agenda you throw at such forums, somebody will beat you down to ridicule! If not me then certainly someone, history on these pages speaks for itself.

It's high time that you learn to accept that the ethnics are part and parcel of this society, you need to cease in your resentment and get to know them rather than fear them from behind your curtains and computers!

Your arguments are baseless, at best stupid.
You've been looking down your nose at people on here since 9 o'clock this morning. Shouldn't you go away and live this 'life' that you profess to have, instead of thinking you're getting one over on everyone that comments on her with a different opinion than your?

You are a boring, massively condescending Tw@t. You know that don't you love....?
And he thinks that by rabbiting on at length about absolute sh1te he's winning some argument when all the time everybody thinks he's just a cvnt, this guy definitely needs deporting, now back to my strong cider and drug binge !!
No doubt She'll be on tomorrow to try and belittle me. Just like She has done throughout this comment thread when someone has offered an opinion that does not line up where her middle class, left wing, out of touch agenda.

I'm assuming she is female. Because I don't care to call it a man.

Enjoy your cider and lie-in
[quote][p][bold]davoovad[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PMW35/7[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lawlesschat[/bold] wrote: On a final note, partially out of boredom and the lacking challenge presented before me as well as having 'a life'. No matter what racist agenda you throw at such forums, somebody will beat you down to ridicule! If not me then certainly someone, history on these pages speaks for itself. It's high time that you learn to accept that the ethnics are part and parcel of this society, you need to cease in your resentment and get to know them rather than fear them from behind your curtains and computers! Your arguments are baseless, at best stupid.[/p][/quote]You've been looking down your nose at people on here since 9 o'clock this morning. Shouldn't you go away and live this 'life' that you profess to have, instead of thinking you're getting one over on everyone that comments on her with a different opinion than your? You are a boring, massively condescending Tw@t. You know that don't you love....?[/p][/quote]And he thinks that by rabbiting on at length about absolute sh1te he's winning some argument when all the time everybody thinks he's just a cvnt, this guy definitely needs deporting, now back to my strong cider and drug binge !![/p][/quote]No doubt She'll be on tomorrow to try and belittle me. Just like She has done throughout this comment thread when someone has offered an opinion that does not line up where her middle class, left wing, out of touch agenda. I'm assuming she is female. Because I don't care to call it a man. Enjoy your cider and lie-in PMW35/7
  • Score: 2

11:05pm Thu 11 Jul 13

NotPCme says...

I think I'll crack open another can of Super strength!

Burrrrp!

These pesky flies are all over my council flat! I think I'll take my couch outside in the front garden tonight!

Sweet dreams!
I think I'll crack open another can of Super strength! Burrrrp! These pesky flies are all over my council flat! I think I'll take my couch outside in the front garden tonight! Sweet dreams! NotPCme
  • Score: 3

11:16pm Thu 11 Jul 13

Citizen Cane says...

Wolfie190 wrote:
We are just importing third world people including the East Europeans and their third world problems and yes I know Bolton pretty much most areas now are full of white British scum and all these groups are being paid to breed the more kids they have the more money they get.
Wolfie gets to the nub of the issue - there is a crime wave coming which will be due to a tide of taxpayer funded low quality feral scum youth that was begat purely to farm benefits for the low quality parents (well, multiple parents of course with none providing any useful social purpose).

The immigrants are not a huge issue in context but they need do be stopped before they reach the tipping point.

If you are a taxpayer and you see either feral scum or an immigrant shopping, do remember that you are paying and they are not grateful. In fact they want even more. And also remember who made all of this happen through short sighted policy and theft of your income: The Labour Party.
[quote][p][bold]Wolfie190[/bold] wrote: We are just importing third world people including the East Europeans and their third world problems and yes I know Bolton pretty much most areas now are full of white British scum and all these groups are being paid to breed the more kids they have the more money they get.[/p][/quote]Wolfie gets to the nub of the issue - there is a crime wave coming which will be due to a tide of taxpayer funded low quality feral scum youth that was begat purely to farm benefits for the low quality parents (well, multiple parents of course with none providing any useful social purpose). The immigrants are not a huge issue in context but they need do be stopped before they reach the tipping point. If you are a taxpayer and you see either feral scum or an immigrant shopping, do remember that you are paying and they are not grateful. In fact they want even more. And also remember who made all of this happen through short sighted policy and theft of your income: The Labour Party. Citizen Cane
  • Score: 9

11:40pm Thu 11 Jul 13

BNP(British- National- PAK) says...

NotPCme wrote:
BNP(British- National- PAK) wrote:
Whats a "Ghetto" ???
You bigots, where do think you're living Moss-side or Cheetham Hill.
See if you can talk your gibberish to them man.
Bolton never has or will be a Ghetto you childish minded fools.
Ha!ha!ha! what a bunch of Bananas!!!
No, it's a third world ghetto.
Ha!Ha!Ha!
Chuckle Brothers!!!
[quote][p][bold]NotPCme[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BNP(British- National- PAK)[/bold] wrote: Whats a "Ghetto" ??? You bigots, where do think you're living Moss-side or Cheetham Hill. See if you can talk your gibberish to them man. Bolton never has or will be a Ghetto you childish minded fools. Ha!ha!ha! what a bunch of Bananas!!![/p][/quote]No, it's a third world ghetto.[/p][/quote]Ha!Ha!Ha! Chuckle Brothers!!! BNP(British- National- PAK)
  • Score: -3

11:42pm Thu 11 Jul 13

BNP(British- National- PAK) says...

buckfuzzby wrote:
BNP(British- National- PAK) wrote:
Whats a "Ghetto" ???
You bigots, where do think you're living Moss-side or Cheetham Hill.
See if you can talk your gibberish to them man.
Bolton never has or will be a Ghetto you childish minded fools.
Ha!ha!ha! what a bunch of Bananas!!!
Stupidity is not something you are born with.....but, judging by what I read here, It's something you aquire with age.....the older you get the more stupid you become, what age are you now, late sixties, early seventies????
Ha!Ha!Ha!
Chuckle Brother!!!
[quote][p][bold]buckfuzzby[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BNP(British- National- PAK)[/bold] wrote: Whats a "Ghetto" ??? You bigots, where do think you're living Moss-side or Cheetham Hill. See if you can talk your gibberish to them man. Bolton never has or will be a Ghetto you childish minded fools. Ha!ha!ha! what a bunch of Bananas!!![/p][/quote]Stupidity is not something you are born with.....but, judging by what I read here, It's something you aquire with age.....the older you get the more stupid you become, what age are you now, late sixties, early seventies????[/p][/quote]Ha!Ha!Ha! Chuckle Brother!!! BNP(British- National- PAK)
  • Score: -2

12:03am Fri 12 Jul 13

BNP(British- National- PAK) says...

You guys are beyond a joke, Lawlesschat smashed you guys verbally tonight and I hope it has taught you a lesson you wished was taught by your great ones, you ought to acknowledge all the statement written by him concluded to one thing. You guys threw everything and it back fired BIG time. Man get some education don't google for it. Trust me that was not even the tip of the ice... if our girls stand up to this you will be DOOMED.
Do me a favour don't try and slate unless you can stand the heat in the kitchen. I could go on and on, where ever the English go in the world they are hated because of their behavior, Attitude and hooliganism.
I have shown our youngsters your illiterate comments and they walked away laughing and no filth coming out of their mouths.
If your illiterate parents haven't taught you anything and you have no desire then let your kids at least have that chance.

Any one liner comments keep to your brave selves.
You guys are beyond a joke, Lawlesschat smashed you guys verbally tonight and I hope it has taught you a lesson you wished was taught by your great ones, you ought to acknowledge all the statement written by him concluded to one thing. You guys threw everything and it back fired BIG time. Man get some education don't google for it. Trust me that was not even the tip of the ice... if our girls stand up to this you will be DOOMED. Do me a favour don't try and slate unless you can stand the heat in the kitchen. I could go on and on, where ever the English go in the world they are hated because of their behavior, Attitude and hooliganism. I have shown our youngsters your illiterate comments and they walked away laughing and no filth coming out of their mouths. If your illiterate parents haven't taught you anything and you have no desire then let your kids at least have that chance. Any one liner comments keep to your brave selves. BNP(British- National- PAK)
  • Score: -7

1:07am Fri 12 Jul 13

Reality50 says...

Lawlesschat aka British National PAK aka BWFC71.
Lawlesschat aka British National PAK aka BWFC71. Reality50
  • Score: 5

7:07am Fri 12 Jul 13

thomas ryder says...

Lawlesschat wrote:
grimtown wrote:
Lawlesschat wrote: Something that everyone seems to be confused about, White working class is not the same as White non working class! The latter are also known as the scrote's, the chavs the druggies and soforth! These people do not seek to work not will they! Unfortunately the majority if them by any stretch of the imagination stem from white British backgrounds!
All the white British workers moved out because the Pakistanis moved in, this is well documented ! No hard working British white family with young children want to live near a mosque or islamic school feeling it is like a middle eastern country with indimidating Burkhas. Drugs are rife in the Islamic community as well. I wouldnt want my son going to an Islamic school.
That just demonstrates you ignorance as a being! "All the white British moved out because the pakistsni's moved in" Exactly my point, and thus what created devide and segregation, the lacking ability to accept or want to know them when they arrived! You just dig yourself a hole, a huge one at that. I would suggest that a street full of Asian's or Pakistani's is much a safer one than one filled with you and your ilk my friend! Late night partying, urinating on the street, loud music, drugs and alcohol abuse! I think the "Pakistani's" are somehow in gratitude to the likes of your parents for making such choices back in the 60's and 70's! You in effect did them a service by packing up and moving! So, let me guess, your parents moved to Tonge Moor did they? Great choice of area, afterall not many ethnics there eh? If the white British hadn't "moved out" and stayed put then society would have been much better integrated today! You have demonstrated a clear example of something referred to as "white fright"!
If you like Halliwell so mutch why not live there you nob. Untill you do dont comment as you have no understanding unless you do.
[quote][p][bold]Lawlesschat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]grimtown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lawlesschat[/bold] wrote: Something that everyone seems to be confused about, White working class is not the same as White non working class! The latter are also known as the scrote's, the chavs the druggies and soforth! These people do not seek to work not will they! Unfortunately the majority if them by any stretch of the imagination stem from white British backgrounds![/p][/quote]All the white British workers moved out because the Pakistanis moved in, this is well documented ! No hard working British white family with young children want to live near a mosque or islamic school feeling it is like a middle eastern country with indimidating Burkhas. Drugs are rife in the Islamic community as well. I wouldnt want my son going to an Islamic school.[/p][/quote]That just demonstrates you ignorance as a being! "All the white British moved out because the pakistsni's moved in" Exactly my point, and thus what created devide and segregation, the lacking ability to accept or want to know them when they arrived! You just dig yourself a hole, a huge one at that. I would suggest that a street full of Asian's or Pakistani's is much a safer one than one filled with you and your ilk my friend! Late night partying, urinating on the street, loud music, drugs and alcohol abuse! I think the "Pakistani's" are somehow in gratitude to the likes of your parents for making such choices back in the 60's and 70's! You in effect did them a service by packing up and moving! So, let me guess, your parents moved to Tonge Moor did they? Great choice of area, afterall not many ethnics there eh? If the white British hadn't "moved out" and stayed put then society would have been much better integrated today! You have demonstrated a clear example of something referred to as "white fright"![/p][/quote]If you like Halliwell so mutch why not live there you nob. Untill you do dont comment as you have no understanding unless you do. thomas ryder
  • Score: -3

8:56am Fri 12 Jul 13

Wigan Trotter says...

Normal way of live for many of the people who have come to live in our country and will go even worse in the future.

Third world, here we come!
Normal way of live for many of the people who have come to live in our country and will go even worse in the future. Third world, here we come! Wigan Trotter
  • Score: 3

9:56am Fri 12 Jul 13

Jim271 says...

This morning driving to work I saw the CCTV Smart Car, it had moved 50m down the road outside Halliwell taxis and was attempting to hide behind other parked vehicles whilst still having its camera pointed at the Cash Machine.

I hope Shaheen Sameja will stand up for the people she works for and ensure NSL stop targeting the hard working people of Halliwell.
This morning driving to work I saw the CCTV Smart Car, it had moved 50m down the road outside Halliwell taxis and was attempting to hide behind other parked vehicles whilst still having its camera pointed at the Cash Machine. I hope Shaheen Sameja will stand up for the people she works for and ensure NSL stop targeting the hard working people of Halliwell. Jim271
  • Score: 1

12:32pm Fri 12 Jul 13

boltonchap says...

Lawlesschat wrote:
Reality50 wrote:
Having lived in Breightmet and Halliwell i would say Halliwell is worse yes!. Breightmet was a dump in the 80's but it certainly does not have the crime issues of places such as Halliwell,Great Lever and Deane nowadays. Would i feel safer walking Bury Road or Halliwell Rd after dark? I know which i would choose and it wouldn't be Halliwell!
You've probably fathered some of the scum which now occupy Breightmet and I bet they've bred and then their rats have bred too, well considering they tend to have babies in Breightmet before the age of 14!!

You should consider taking your family members for sterilisation, honestly! This would contribute massively to help ease the problem we face today in Bolton!

This also goes to the rest of you racist, dole scrounging no worths!

You are taking this country into a whirl of *hite from which we won't be able to recover! Do your part, sterilise yourselves and your current offspring!

Now that's what I call being patriotic.
I have a solution to the issue of the underclass breeding like rabbits. They breed at such a high rate because:
They get paid from welfare to do so,
They get laid because they're **** up on cheap booze,
They get laid because they're on drugs,
They have no morals.
They like money but don't like working for it. So I propose as soon as one of their brats reaches puberty we give them £10,000 to be sterilised. They won't be able to resist. The underclass will slowly die out. Simples.
[quote][p][bold]Lawlesschat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Reality50[/bold] wrote: Having lived in Breightmet and Halliwell i would say Halliwell is worse yes!. Breightmet was a dump in the 80's but it certainly does not have the crime issues of places such as Halliwell,Great Lever and Deane nowadays. Would i feel safer walking Bury Road or Halliwell Rd after dark? I know which i would choose and it wouldn't be Halliwell![/p][/quote]You've probably fathered some of the scum which now occupy Breightmet and I bet they've bred and then their rats have bred too, well considering they tend to have babies in Breightmet before the age of 14!! You should consider taking your family members for sterilisation, honestly! This would contribute massively to help ease the problem we face today in Bolton! This also goes to the rest of you racist, dole scrounging no worths! You are taking this country into a whirl of *hite from which we won't be able to recover! Do your part, sterilise yourselves and your current offspring! Now that's what I call being patriotic.[/p][/quote]I have a solution to the issue of the underclass breeding like rabbits. They breed at such a high rate because: They get paid from welfare to do so, They get laid because they're **** up on cheap booze, They get laid because they're on drugs, They have no morals. They like money but don't like working for it. So I propose as soon as one of their brats reaches puberty we give them £10,000 to be sterilised. They won't be able to resist. The underclass will slowly die out. Simples. boltonchap
  • Score: 2

2:32pm Fri 12 Jul 13

Lawlesschat says...

PMW35/7 wrote:
Lawlesschat wrote:
On a final note, partially out of boredom and the lacking challenge presented before me as well as having 'a life'.

No matter what racist agenda you throw at such forums, somebody will beat you down to ridicule! If not me then certainly someone, history on these pages speaks for itself.

It's high time that you learn to accept that the ethnics are part and parcel of this society, you need to cease in your resentment and get to know them rather than fear them from behind your curtains and computers!

Your arguments are baseless, at best stupid.
You've been looking down your nose at people on here since 9 o'clock this morning. Shouldn't you go away and live this 'life' that you profess to have, instead of thinking you're getting one over on everyone that comments on her with a different opinion than your?

You are a boring, massively condescending Tw@t. You know that don't you love....?
How Butch are you?

Actually I need to correct you ... I came on twice, once in the morning and the second occassion in the evening at 7.30pm until 9.30pm!

So not quite here all day, was I Sweetheart .... Love?

Cough cough, It's not a case of having a difference of opinion, it's more of a case of correcting wrong with right!!


By the way, such an eloquent peice you wrote, I was almost envious of your choice of words, you sound highly intelligent .... (I do jest)

Looking down my nose at people, I guess I do!! Oh well?!?
[quote][p][bold]PMW35/7[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lawlesschat[/bold] wrote: On a final note, partially out of boredom and the lacking challenge presented before me as well as having 'a life'. No matter what racist agenda you throw at such forums, somebody will beat you down to ridicule! If not me then certainly someone, history on these pages speaks for itself. It's high time that you learn to accept that the ethnics are part and parcel of this society, you need to cease in your resentment and get to know them rather than fear them from behind your curtains and computers! Your arguments are baseless, at best stupid.[/p][/quote]You've been looking down your nose at people on here since 9 o'clock this morning. Shouldn't you go away and live this 'life' that you profess to have, instead of thinking you're getting one over on everyone that comments on her with a different opinion than your? You are a boring, massively condescending Tw@t. You know that don't you love....?[/p][/quote]How Butch are you? Actually I need to correct you ... I came on twice, once in the morning and the second occassion in the evening at 7.30pm until 9.30pm! So not quite here all day, was I Sweetheart .... Love? Cough cough, It's not a case of having a difference of opinion, it's more of a case of correcting wrong with right!! By the way, such an eloquent peice you wrote, I was almost envious of your choice of words, you sound highly intelligent .... (I do jest) Looking down my nose at people, I guess I do!! Oh well?!? Lawlesschat
  • Score: -6

2:41pm Fri 12 Jul 13

Lawlesschat says...

thomas ryder wrote:
Lawlesschat wrote:
grimtown wrote:
Lawlesschat wrote: Something that everyone seems to be confused about, White working class is not the same as White non working class! The latter are also known as the scrote's, the chavs the druggies and soforth! These people do not seek to work not will they! Unfortunately the majority if them by any stretch of the imagination stem from white British backgrounds!
All the white British workers moved out because the Pakistanis moved in, this is well documented ! No hard working British white family with young children want to live near a mosque or islamic school feeling it is like a middle eastern country with indimidating Burkhas. Drugs are rife in the Islamic community as well. I wouldnt want my son going to an Islamic school.
That just demonstrates you ignorance as a being! "All the white British moved out because the pakistsni's moved in" Exactly my point, and thus what created devide and segregation, the lacking ability to accept or want to know them when they arrived! You just dig yourself a hole, a huge one at that. I would suggest that a street full of Asian's or Pakistani's is much a safer one than one filled with you and your ilk my friend! Late night partying, urinating on the street, loud music, drugs and alcohol abuse! I think the "Pakistani's" are somehow in gratitude to the likes of your parents for making such choices back in the 60's and 70's! You in effect did them a service by packing up and moving! So, let me guess, your parents moved to Tonge Moor did they? Great choice of area, afterall not many ethnics there eh? If the white British hadn't "moved out" and stayed put then society would have been much better integrated today! You have demonstrated a clear example of something referred to as "white fright"!
If you like Halliwell so mutch why not live there you nob. Untill you do dont comment as you have no understanding unless you do.
How do you know that I don't already live in Halliwell?

What is it with you and stupidity! You're that closely linked its bewildering!
[quote][p][bold]thomas ryder[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lawlesschat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]grimtown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lawlesschat[/bold] wrote: Something that everyone seems to be confused about, White working class is not the same as White non working class! The latter are also known as the scrote's, the chavs the druggies and soforth! These people do not seek to work not will they! Unfortunately the majority if them by any stretch of the imagination stem from white British backgrounds![/p][/quote]All the white British workers moved out because the Pakistanis moved in, this is well documented ! No hard working British white family with young children want to live near a mosque or islamic school feeling it is like a middle eastern country with indimidating Burkhas. Drugs are rife in the Islamic community as well. I wouldnt want my son going to an Islamic school.[/p][/quote]That just demonstrates you ignorance as a being! "All the white British moved out because the pakistsni's moved in" Exactly my point, and thus what created devide and segregation, the lacking ability to accept or want to know them when they arrived! You just dig yourself a hole, a huge one at that. I would suggest that a street full of Asian's or Pakistani's is much a safer one than one filled with you and your ilk my friend! Late night partying, urinating on the street, loud music, drugs and alcohol abuse! I think the "Pakistani's" are somehow in gratitude to the likes of your parents for making such choices back in the 60's and 70's! You in effect did them a service by packing up and moving! So, let me guess, your parents moved to Tonge Moor did they? Great choice of area, afterall not many ethnics there eh? If the white British hadn't "moved out" and stayed put then society would have been much better integrated today! You have demonstrated a clear example of something referred to as "white fright"![/p][/quote]If you like Halliwell so mutch why not live there you nob. Untill you do dont comment as you have no understanding unless you do.[/p][/quote]How do you know that I don't already live in Halliwell? What is it with you and stupidity! You're that closely linked its bewildering! Lawlesschat
  • Score: -2

3:10pm Fri 12 Jul 13

PMW35/7 says...

@Lawlesschat I would describe myself as quite butch if I'm honest.

Sorry I didn't know I was dealing with one of you. You know the type. Always has to have the last word. well after this feel free.


Unless you do want to carry on, in which case lets meet up. Despite how you might want to make it look, I'm not really into arguing over the internet.

I called you love because you come across as like a middle aged primary school teacher that has forgotten that the internet is not her classroom and that by believing that correcting what seems to be only what you consider to be wrong actually works on here. It doesn't, it just makes you sound arrogant and as I said before very condescending.


..and While I'm at it, you go into great depths to ridicule everyone and anyone that has a differing opinion on the state of Halliwell Rd. without actually coming out with any reasonable, viable solutions. That would make you somewhat Troll-ish...

So. For now, Good day Madam
@Lawlesschat I would describe myself as quite butch if I'm honest. Sorry I didn't know I was dealing with one of you. You know the type. Always has to have the last word. well after this feel free. Unless you do want to carry on, in which case lets meet up. Despite how you might want to make it look, I'm not really into arguing over the internet. I called you love because you come across as like a middle aged primary school teacher that has forgotten that the internet is not her classroom and that by believing that correcting what seems to be only what you consider to be wrong actually works on here. It doesn't, it just makes you sound arrogant and as I said before very condescending. ..and While I'm at it, you go into great depths to ridicule everyone and anyone that has a differing opinion on the state of Halliwell Rd. without actually coming out with any reasonable, viable solutions. That would make you somewhat Troll-ish... So. For now, Good day Madam PMW35/7
  • Score: 5

3:11pm Fri 12 Jul 13

Lawlesschat says...

buckfuzzby wrote:
Lawlesschat wrote:
davoovad wrote:
Lawlesschat wrote:
Reality50 wrote:
In the 1970's and 80's Halliwell was a good example of an area with good community spirit where all races and cultures got on fairly well. I spent a lot of my childhood up there and loved the Mermaid chippy and also in my 20's the road was known for having the best pub crawl in town. Halliwell started to go wrong 20 years ago and it has got progressively worse as Muslims and East Europeans have now become the majority in large swathes of Halliwell. When i was young,Breightmet was considered the worst place in Bolton but nowadays Breightmet is a lot better and Halliwell is now in my view the worst part of town. 30 years ago there was a fair level of immigration there but now it is at overload. Multiculturalism cannot work when local Brits become the minority. I blame the Labour Party under Blair and then Brown for the immigration crisis and the lack of social cohesion and community spirit today. Areas such as Halliwell are now scrapheaps and beyond help.
You think Breightmet is BETTER an area to live than Halliwell road?

What planet are you on son?

Albeit Halliwell Road is a *hit tip I think you might be exagurating slightly comparing it to Breightmet, have you seen the likes that live there?

So clouded in judgement you are!!!
Why don't you **** off you know it all **** **** and a half, why do you suppose noone replys to your wall of text posts ? answer - because your a **** !!
OH MY DAYS!!!

Someone's fallen out of bed on the wrong side sometime late in the afternoon.

No need for such aggression you mindless nobody! For the record, people have responded and you may find you too have responded, today and on previous occasions! So what does that suggest about you!

Seemingly I'm too good for you to engage in a discourse of any intellect, albeit I do find myself lowering my standards to meet on a level with those of your ilk.

Why don't you go back to drinking from your can of cheap ale? You're better suited to that than trying to engage on a forum, albeit full of numpties like yourself.
If you've never read verbal diarrhoea...please read this.
Signed.
The chief numpty.
Great title you've given yourself!!

Very fitting in all fairness!

"Clap Clap"
[quote][p][bold]buckfuzzby[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lawlesschat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]davoovad[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lawlesschat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Reality50[/bold] wrote: In the 1970's and 80's Halliwell was a good example of an area with good community spirit where all races and cultures got on fairly well. I spent a lot of my childhood up there and loved the Mermaid chippy and also in my 20's the road was known for having the best pub crawl in town. Halliwell started to go wrong 20 years ago and it has got progressively worse as Muslims and East Europeans have now become the majority in large swathes of Halliwell. When i was young,Breightmet was considered the worst place in Bolton but nowadays Breightmet is a lot better and Halliwell is now in my view the worst part of town. 30 years ago there was a fair level of immigration there but now it is at overload. Multiculturalism cannot work when local Brits become the minority. I blame the Labour Party under Blair and then Brown for the immigration crisis and the lack of social cohesion and community spirit today. Areas such as Halliwell are now scrapheaps and beyond help.[/p][/quote]You think Breightmet is BETTER an area to live than Halliwell road? What planet are you on son? Albeit Halliwell Road is a *hit tip I think you might be exagurating slightly comparing it to Breightmet, have you seen the likes that live there? So clouded in judgement you are!!![/p][/quote]Why don't you **** off you know it all **** **** and a half, why do you suppose noone replys to your wall of text posts ? answer - because your a **** !![/p][/quote]OH MY DAYS!!! Someone's fallen out of bed on the wrong side sometime late in the afternoon. No need for such aggression you mindless nobody! For the record, people have responded and you may find you too have responded, today and on previous occasions! So what does that suggest about you! Seemingly I'm too good for you to engage in a discourse of any intellect, albeit I do find myself lowering my standards to meet on a level with those of your ilk. Why don't you go back to drinking from your can of cheap ale? You're better suited to that than trying to engage on a forum, albeit full of numpties like yourself.[/p][/quote]If you've never read verbal diarrhoea...please read this. Signed. The chief numpty.[/p][/quote]Great title you've given yourself!! Very fitting in all fairness! "Clap Clap" Lawlesschat
  • Score: -6

3:13pm Fri 12 Jul 13

Lawlesschat says...

Reality50 wrote:
Lawlesschat aka British National PAK aka BWFC71.
If you say so!
[quote][p][bold]Reality50[/bold] wrote: Lawlesschat aka British National PAK aka BWFC71.[/p][/quote]If you say so! Lawlesschat
  • Score: -2

3:39pm Fri 12 Jul 13

Lawlesschat says...

davoovad wrote:
PMW35/7 wrote:
Lawlesschat wrote:
On a final note, partially out of boredom and the lacking challenge presented before me as well as having 'a life'.

No matter what racist agenda you throw at such forums, somebody will beat you down to ridicule! If not me then certainly someone, history on these pages speaks for itself.

It's high time that you learn to accept that the ethnics are part and parcel of this society, you need to cease in your resentment and get to know them rather than fear them from behind your curtains and computers!

Your arguments are baseless, at best stupid.
You've been looking down your nose at people on here since 9 o'clock this morning. Shouldn't you go away and live this 'life' that you profess to have, instead of thinking you're getting one over on everyone that comments on her with a different opinion than your?

You are a boring, massively condescending Tw@t. You know that don't you love....?
And he thinks that by rabbiting on at length about absolute sh1te he's winning some argument when all the time everybody thinks he's just a cvnt, this guy definitely needs deporting, now back to my strong cider and drug binge !!
How can you deport someone from the country he/she originates! Or do you mean exile?
[quote][p][bold]davoovad[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PMW35/7[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lawlesschat[/bold] wrote: On a final note, partially out of boredom and the lacking challenge presented before me as well as having 'a life'. No matter what racist agenda you throw at such forums, somebody will beat you down to ridicule! If not me then certainly someone, history on these pages speaks for itself. It's high time that you learn to accept that the ethnics are part and parcel of this society, you need to cease in your resentment and get to know them rather than fear them from behind your curtains and computers! Your arguments are baseless, at best stupid.[/p][/quote]You've been looking down your nose at people on here since 9 o'clock this morning. Shouldn't you go away and live this 'life' that you profess to have, instead of thinking you're getting one over on everyone that comments on her with a different opinion than your? You are a boring, massively condescending Tw@t. You know that don't you love....?[/p][/quote]And he thinks that by rabbiting on at length about absolute sh1te he's winning some argument when all the time everybody thinks he's just a cvnt, this guy definitely needs deporting, now back to my strong cider and drug binge !![/p][/quote]How can you deport someone from the country he/she originates! Or do you mean exile? Lawlesschat
  • Score: -1

3:46pm Fri 12 Jul 13

JohnTheBaptist says...

Davoovad has been trying to belittle absolute anyone who has a view different to his.......
Davoovad has been trying to belittle absolute anyone who has a view different to his....... JohnTheBaptist
  • Score: 5

4:35pm Fri 12 Jul 13

Reality50 says...

Bottom line is Halliwell and many other areas of Britain will be totally Islamified in 10-15 years time and then sharia law will rule.We-the British-are slowly but surely giving our country away to the Islamists. Left wing fools like Lawlesschat are just useful idiots in that islamic quest for control of our country.We all have eyes and ears and with Muslim birthrate far higher than white British birthrate,it is a matter of time til doomsday. They will then democratically defeat us at the ballot box. A precedent? The IRA/Sinn Fein in the 1970s and 1980s. They outbred the Protestants deliberately and now they power share and are a majority. You can also look at the red squirrel grey squirrel analogy where greys were imported and bred out of control and attacked the reds. I fear for our children and grandchildren. Islam is a religion of non compromise and young Muslim men are even more militant than their elders. Stupid left wing socialists/Commies and liberals naively think Islamists will do a deal with them 20 years down the line once Islam dominates at the ballot box locally and nationally. They are naive and wrong. Muslims will ditch the Labour Party once there are enough of them as we have already seen with Galloway's Muslim Respect Party in Bradford.I don't blame whites leaving Halliwell or Deane or Great Lever. If i lived there i would do too. Waking up to the "Call Of Prayer" every day is not my scene.
Bottom line is Halliwell and many other areas of Britain will be totally Islamified in 10-15 years time and then sharia law will rule.We-the British-are slowly but surely giving our country away to the Islamists. Left wing fools like Lawlesschat are just useful idiots in that islamic quest for control of our country.We all have eyes and ears and with Muslim birthrate far higher than white British birthrate,it is a matter of time til doomsday. They will then democratically defeat us at the ballot box. A precedent? The IRA/Sinn Fein in the 1970s and 1980s. They outbred the Protestants deliberately and now they power share and are a majority. You can also look at the red squirrel grey squirrel analogy where greys were imported and bred out of control and attacked the reds. I fear for our children and grandchildren. Islam is a religion of non compromise and young Muslim men are even more militant than their elders. Stupid left wing socialists/Commies and liberals naively think Islamists will do a deal with them 20 years down the line once Islam dominates at the ballot box locally and nationally. They are naive and wrong. Muslims will ditch the Labour Party once there are enough of them as we have already seen with Galloway's Muslim Respect Party in Bradford.I don't blame whites leaving Halliwell or Deane or Great Lever. If i lived there i would do too. Waking up to the "Call Of Prayer" every day is not my scene. Reality50
  • Score: 5

4:43pm Fri 12 Jul 13

Reality50 says...

And i certainly would not describe trade union leaders on 200K a year or public sector workers as working class generally.The far Left have a skewed idea as to what working class is and is about. The trade unions are scabs who have sold out the REAL working class and support EU migrant workers taking jobs that are needed by locals. I am working class and it disgusts me when i see youtube videos of middle class students and trade union traitors on fat salaries at street demonstrations banging on about being working class. You wouldn't know what working class was if it hit you in the face.Working class people do not read The Guardian or hug trees generally. The EDL for example are a working class organisation with working class members. The middle class far Left including the trade unions oppose them. The modern Labour Party is now middle class based too.
And i certainly would not describe trade union leaders on 200K a year or public sector workers as working class generally.The far Left have a skewed idea as to what working class is and is about. The trade unions are scabs who have sold out the REAL working class and support EU migrant workers taking jobs that are needed by locals. I am working class and it disgusts me when i see youtube videos of middle class students and trade union traitors on fat salaries at street demonstrations banging on about being working class. You wouldn't know what working class was if it hit you in the face.Working class people do not read The Guardian or hug trees generally. The EDL for example are a working class organisation with working class members. The middle class far Left including the trade unions oppose them. The modern Labour Party is now middle class based too. Reality50
  • Score: 6

5:25pm Fri 12 Jul 13

Lawlesschat says...

Reality50 wrote:
Bottom line is Halliwell and many other areas of Britain will be totally Islamified in 10-15 years time and then sharia law will rule.We-the British-are slowly but surely giving our country away to the Islamists. Left wing fools like Lawlesschat are just useful idiots in that islamic quest for control of our country.We all have eyes and ears and with Muslim birthrate far higher than white British birthrate,it is a matter of time til doomsday. They will then democratically defeat us at the ballot box. A precedent? The IRA/Sinn Fein in the 1970s and 1980s. They outbred the Protestants deliberately and now they power share and are a majority. You can also look at the red squirrel grey squirrel analogy where greys were imported and bred out of control and attacked the reds. I fear for our children and grandchildren. Islam is a religion of non compromise and young Muslim men are even more militant than their elders. Stupid left wing socialists/Commies and liberals naively think Islamists will do a deal with them 20 years down the line once Islam dominates at the ballot box locally and nationally. They are naive and wrong. Muslims will ditch the Labour Party once there are enough of them as we have already seen with Galloway's Muslim Respect Party in Bradford.I don't blame whites leaving Halliwell or Deane or Great Lever. If i lived there i would do too. Waking up to the "Call Of Prayer" every day is not my scene.
Brilliant!!!

You are so well informed aren't you!

Just a complete laughing stock, I'd love to know where you gather your information from ... The BNP or EDL websites maybe?

Here's an idea, how about making a national appeal to all the white British folk in this country and asking them to mass up on child birth! Issue resolved, if that's your concern, that's surly a simplistic means of resolve!

Go and live a little you complete waster! Im surprised that you people dont suffer agoraphobia !

Wow! What a twisted way to live!
[quote][p][bold]Reality50[/bold] wrote: Bottom line is Halliwell and many other areas of Britain will be totally Islamified in 10-15 years time and then sharia law will rule.We-the British-are slowly but surely giving our country away to the Islamists. Left wing fools like Lawlesschat are just useful idiots in that islamic quest for control of our country.We all have eyes and ears and with Muslim birthrate far higher than white British birthrate,it is a matter of time til doomsday. They will then democratically defeat us at the ballot box. A precedent? The IRA/Sinn Fein in the 1970s and 1980s. They outbred the Protestants deliberately and now they power share and are a majority. You can also look at the red squirrel grey squirrel analogy where greys were imported and bred out of control and attacked the reds. I fear for our children and grandchildren. Islam is a religion of non compromise and young Muslim men are even more militant than their elders. Stupid left wing socialists/Commies and liberals naively think Islamists will do a deal with them 20 years down the line once Islam dominates at the ballot box locally and nationally. They are naive and wrong. Muslims will ditch the Labour Party once there are enough of them as we have already seen with Galloway's Muslim Respect Party in Bradford.I don't blame whites leaving Halliwell or Deane or Great Lever. If i lived there i would do too. Waking up to the "Call Of Prayer" every day is not my scene.[/p][/quote]Brilliant!!! You are so well informed aren't you! Just a complete laughing stock, I'd love to know where you gather your information from ... The BNP or EDL websites maybe? Here's an idea, how about making a national appeal to all the white British folk in this country and asking them to mass up on child birth! Issue resolved, if that's your concern, that's surly a simplistic means of resolve! Go and live a little you complete waster! Im surprised that you people dont suffer agoraphobia ! Wow! What a twisted way to live! Lawlesschat
  • Score: -6

5:44pm Fri 12 Jul 13

BNP(British- National- PAK) says...

Oh hang on lets watch these intelligence fools)) enjoy.

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Oh hang on lets watch these intelligence fools)) enjoy. http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=kjuNuqIev 8M BNP(British- National- PAK)
  • Score: -1

7:27pm Fri 12 Jul 13

rostron says...

As a child I was brought up around Blackburn road area.I visited this area a few yrs back to look at Sunday school, etc,Stood outside, I was confronted by a child, approx. 8,yrs old, who asked what I was doing. After replying, I was told in no uncertain terms to get out, & I had no rights to be in the area.He soon got told, I was running round the streets before he was thought of,! So much for intergration, as he didn't think this up himself, he had been taught to tell people this !
As a child I was brought up around Blackburn road area.I visited this area a few yrs back to look at Sunday school, etc,Stood outside, I was confronted by a child, approx. 8,yrs old, who asked what I was doing. After replying, I was told in no uncertain terms to get out, & I had no rights to be in the area.He soon got told, I was running round the streets before he was thought of,! So much for intergration, as he didn't think this up himself, he had been taught to tell people this ! rostron
  • Score: 0

7:53pm Fri 12 Jul 13

davoovad says...

We English need to recapture some of the Dunkirk spirit or National pride, call it what you like but we've all seen what these people are doing to our once great country and itt's gone beyond notliking foreigners it's a battle for survival as a nation, these people have an agenda and it amounts to ruination for all white English people.
Dont vote for lib lab con they live in cloud cuckoo land and maybe a vote for the EDL is a few years down the line but a vote for ukip will do for now.
It's time to stand up and be counted because it's going to get much much worse !!!
We English need to recapture some of the Dunkirk spirit or National pride, call it what you like but we've all seen what these people are doing to our once great country and itt's gone beyond notliking foreigners it's a battle for survival as a nation, these people have an agenda and it amounts to ruination for all white English people. Dont vote for lib lab con they live in cloud cuckoo land and maybe a vote for the EDL is a few years down the line but a vote for ukip will do for now. It's time to stand up and be counted because it's going to get much much worse !!! davoovad
  • Score: 2

7:53pm Fri 12 Jul 13

BNP(British- National- PAK) says...

I remember when I was 7 or 8years old, sat in my Fathers Transit van. some Scallies shaved heads, Blue denims and white t- shirt not forgetting Doc Martins laced knee high like sissy boots, and they started to give racist comments. As soon as my dad gets out to confront them with scaf bar in his hand, they ran off, except for one I remember clearly begging for mercy. He still got a slap and he ran off all I could hear him as he ran away. Sorry! Sorry!
I remember when I was 7 or 8years old, sat in my Fathers Transit van. some Scallies shaved heads, Blue denims and white t- shirt not forgetting Doc Martins laced knee high like sissy boots, and they started to give racist comments. As soon as my dad gets out to confront them with scaf bar in his hand, they ran off, except for one I remember clearly begging for mercy. He still got a slap and he ran off all I could hear him as he ran away. Sorry! Sorry! BNP(British- National- PAK)
  • Score: -4

7:27am Sat 13 Jul 13

Jerry cruncher says...

Lets get rid of the immigrants,stop paying benefits to the underclass and just ignore the gobby leftists who are small in numbers and big in decibels and maybe we have a chance of saving the country from the downward spiral it is in.
Lets get rid of the immigrants,stop paying benefits to the underclass and just ignore the gobby leftists who are small in numbers and big in decibels and maybe we have a chance of saving the country from the downward spiral it is in. Jerry cruncher
  • Score: 4

8:09am Sat 13 Jul 13

thomas ryder says...

JohnTheBaptist wrote:
Nicola32 wrote: yeah alot of white families have given up because they have lost control of their kids,yes there is alot of unemployment around so the blow their benefits on drugs and alcohol because they have nothing better to do.yes those unruly nasty chav kids need a slap.yes those immigrants are taking the mickey....we are all aware of the social problems we face but the local government are too spineless to get stuck in and change things.they make sink estates so nicer people can live somewhere else nice and quietly whilst all the poor live in one space...ghettos more or less.its all about the money for councils and basically as per usual they dont like spending.the police..well they arrest and the courts do naff all.society is well and truely broken and nobody wants to fix it.the muslim corner shop man straight thru to the greedy supermarket chains are making a packet from the money spent on fags and alcohol.they dont care.its just all about money and not about making a positive change
Why did you have mention "muslim" when it came to the cornershop man? Why didnt you mention the "christian" scum bags?
When you pay your own rent you can live where you like and Brits overseas dont claim benefits. South Africa was the bread basket of Africa when run by whites, now after years of the ANC its become a basket case.
[quote][p][bold]JohnTheBaptist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nicola32[/bold] wrote: yeah alot of white families have given up because they have lost control of their kids,yes there is alot of unemployment around so the blow their benefits on drugs and alcohol because they have nothing better to do.yes those unruly nasty chav kids need a slap.yes those immigrants are taking the mickey....we are all aware of the social problems we face but the local government are too spineless to get stuck in and change things.they make sink estates so nicer people can live somewhere else nice and quietly whilst all the poor live in one space...ghettos more or less.its all about the money for councils and basically as per usual they dont like spending.the police..well they arrest and the courts do naff all.society is well and truely broken and nobody wants to fix it.the muslim corner shop man straight thru to the greedy supermarket chains are making a packet from the money spent on fags and alcohol.they dont care.its just all about money and not about making a positive change[/p][/quote]Why did you have mention "muslim" when it came to the cornershop man? Why didnt you mention the "christian" scum bags?[/p][/quote]When you pay your own rent you can live where you like and Brits overseas dont claim benefits. South Africa was the bread basket of Africa when run by whites, now after years of the ANC its become a basket case. thomas ryder
  • Score: 3

8:17am Sat 13 Jul 13

thomas ryder says...

Lawlesschat wrote:
Gone all quiet have we? I thought so!! Just like your posts, you are full of empty gestures! Fact is, if you saw me you'd cower back to the day you was born and wish you hadn't been! If you can't debate without expressing violent gestures, I'd suggest you don't debate at all.
Why not post in your real name otherwise your posts mean nothing,your just classed as a troll. I also know you dont live in Halliwell because if you did you would have different view to the one you have now. Anti British!
[quote][p][bold]Lawlesschat[/bold] wrote: Gone all quiet have we? I thought so!! Just like your posts, you are full of empty gestures! Fact is, if you saw me you'd cower back to the day you was born and wish you hadn't been! If you can't debate without expressing violent gestures, I'd suggest you don't debate at all.[/p][/quote]Why not post in your real name otherwise your posts mean nothing,your just classed as a troll. I also know you dont live in Halliwell because if you did you would have different view to the one you have now. Anti British! thomas ryder
  • Score: 5

10:49am Sat 13 Jul 13

BNP(British- National- PAK) says...

These plebs tried to only hit record high in comments as the bee hive roundabout had been commented 170 times. Massive difference in brought up or dragged up.
These plebs tried to only hit record high in comments as the bee hive roundabout had been commented 170 times. Massive difference in brought up or dragged up. BNP(British- National- PAK)
  • Score: -4

5:47pm Sat 13 Jul 13

rostron says...

BNP(British- National- PAK) wrote:
rostron wrote:
As a child I was brought up around Blackburn road area.I visited this area a few yrs back to look at Sunday school, etc,Stood outside, I was confronted by a child, approx. 8,yrs old, who asked what I was doing. After replying, I was told in no uncertain terms to get out, & I had no rights to be in the area.He soon got told, I was running round the streets before he was thought of,! So much for intergration, as he didn't think this up himself, he had been taught to tell people this !
Soooo sad.... an old man Confronted by an 8 year old.
if it was me I would have grabbed him by his wrist and marched him home and complained to his father.

On the other hand I don't believe you at all, unless you were trying to bully the poor 8year old.

Where do you think you? are in U.S.A?
where this kind of crap is normal and believable..

Do you seriously you Serial BIGOTS really believe that crap that leaks out of that hole?
er Im not old man, Im a lady, & this did happen?
One of the houses facing what was once Chalfont st sunday school is where the child came from, & Im not in the habit of grabbing any child, 7 definitely was not bullying, as I hadn't seen him until he shouted to me. A few manners on your part wouldn't come amiss either !
[quote][p][bold]BNP(British- National- PAK)[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rostron[/bold] wrote: As a child I was brought up around Blackburn road area.I visited this area a few yrs back to look at Sunday school, etc,Stood outside, I was confronted by a child, approx. 8,yrs old, who asked what I was doing. After replying, I was told in no uncertain terms to get out, & I had no rights to be in the area.He soon got told, I was running round the streets before he was thought of,! So much for intergration, as he didn't think this up himself, he had been taught to tell people this ![/p][/quote]Soooo sad.... an old man Confronted by an 8 year old. if it was me I would have grabbed him by his wrist and marched him home and complained to his father. On the other hand I don't believe you at all, unless you were trying to bully the poor 8year old. Where do you think you? are in U.S.A? where this kind of crap is normal and believable.. Do you seriously you Serial BIGOTS really believe that crap that leaks out of that hole?[/p][/quote]er Im not old man, Im a lady, & this did happen? One of the houses facing what was once Chalfont st sunday school is where the child came from, & Im not in the habit of grabbing any child, 7 definitely was not bullying, as I hadn't seen him until he shouted to me. A few manners on your part wouldn't come amiss either ! rostron
  • Score: 3

11:28am Sun 14 Jul 13

Sirrius7 says...

A sticker in the back window of a car read

"England: Love it or Leave it"

My sentiment entirely.
A sticker in the back window of a car read "England: Love it or Leave it" My sentiment entirely. Sirrius7
  • Score: 5

12:45pm Sun 14 Jul 13

Hotshot5 says...

It seems like the ones who know the most about mosques are the ones who have never been to one.

Anyway sticking to the topic, drugs, alcohol and prostitution ruining Bolton. I agree, given that Anti Social Behaviour contributes to at least 40% of the total crime consistently speaks volume.

I can't seem to understand why every topic has to be related to religion. In any event, for those arguing that Islam is the cause of Bolton's demise, please note that drugs, alcohol and prostitution are all forbidden in Islam. We all know of the Rochdale grooming case and anyone who classes the whole community as the same is just as bad.

Moving on swiftly, the main problem is youths lacking good upbringing and ambition. Benefits being readily available to people who do not want to work and being cut from people who cannot work i.e disabled etc.

The common argument I hear is that job opportunities are not available as immigrants willing to work for less. Last time I checked this country had a National Minimum Wage law.

The above may apply to self employed workers such as builders, plumbers etc. but I refuse to believe that every benefit eating scavenger was once a builder who's job has been snatched away from him by a cheap working Eastern European.

The main problem is that today's generation do not want to get an education and compete for jobs but would rather blame the increasing population of Britain for unavailabilty of jobs.

The few that do want to educate themselves are demotivated by the high fees at university and incurring a large student debt which thankfully the Tory government have introduced.

Britain has a culture of educating its people and the Tory government has created a major dent in its own culture. Students at universities do drink and have good time but do not engage in anti social behaviour (or at least nowhere near as much) as uneducated, non working hooligans.

The problem today is not Islam or any other religion but the ongoing issue of poor upbringing and the habit of not wanting to do anything or become something in life.

As for the Halliwell/Blackburn Road area, it seems to me that the majority of British Asian youths are working or studying whereas its the opposite for the white youths.

These are just my views and without getting into mindless debates over issues that do not concern our society I leave you in peace.
It seems like the ones who know the most about mosques are the ones who have never been to one. Anyway sticking to the topic, drugs, alcohol and prostitution ruining Bolton. I agree, given that Anti Social Behaviour contributes to at least 40% of the total crime consistently speaks volume. I can't seem to understand why every topic has to be related to religion. In any event, for those arguing that Islam is the cause of Bolton's demise, please note that drugs, alcohol and prostitution are all forbidden in Islam. We all know of the Rochdale grooming case and anyone who classes the whole community as the same is just as bad. Moving on swiftly, the main problem is youths lacking good upbringing and ambition. Benefits being readily available to people who do not want to work and being cut from people who cannot work i.e disabled etc. The common argument I hear is that job opportunities are not available as immigrants willing to work for less. Last time I checked this country had a National Minimum Wage law. The above may apply to self employed workers such as builders, plumbers etc. but I refuse to believe that every benefit eating scavenger was once a builder who's job has been snatched away from him by a cheap working Eastern European. The main problem is that today's generation do not want to get an education and compete for jobs but would rather blame the increasing population of Britain for unavailabilty of jobs. The few that do want to educate themselves are demotivated by the high fees at university and incurring a large student debt which thankfully the Tory government have introduced. Britain has a culture of educating its people and the Tory government has created a major dent in its own culture. Students at universities do drink and have good time but do not engage in anti social behaviour (or at least nowhere near as much) as uneducated, non working hooligans. The problem today is not Islam or any other religion but the ongoing issue of poor upbringing and the habit of not wanting to do anything or become something in life. As for the Halliwell/Blackburn Road area, it seems to me that the majority of British Asian youths are working or studying whereas its the opposite for the white youths. These are just my views and without getting into mindless debates over issues that do not concern our society I leave you in peace. Hotshot5
  • Score: 1

2:57pm Sun 14 Jul 13

Lawlesschat says...

Hotshot5 wrote:
It seems like the ones who know the most about mosques are the ones who have never been to one.

Anyway sticking to the topic, drugs, alcohol and prostitution ruining Bolton. I agree, given that Anti Social Behaviour contributes to at least 40% of the total crime consistently speaks volume.

I can't seem to understand why every topic has to be related to religion. In any event, for those arguing that Islam is the cause of Bolton's demise, please note that drugs, alcohol and prostitution are all forbidden in Islam. We all know of the Rochdale grooming case and anyone who classes the whole community as the same is just as bad.

Moving on swiftly, the main problem is youths lacking good upbringing and ambition. Benefits being readily available to people who do not want to work and being cut from people who cannot work i.e disabled etc.

The common argument I hear is that job opportunities are not available as immigrants willing to work for less. Last time I checked this country had a National Minimum Wage law.

The above may apply to self employed workers such as builders, plumbers etc. but I refuse to believe that every benefit eating scavenger was once a builder who's job has been snatched away from him by a cheap working Eastern European.

The main problem is that today's generation do not want to get an education and compete for jobs but would rather blame the increasing population of Britain for unavailabilty of jobs.

The few that do want to educate themselves are demotivated by the high fees at university and incurring a large student debt which thankfully the Tory government have introduced.

Britain has a culture of educating its people and the Tory government has created a major dent in its own culture. Students at universities do drink and have good time but do not engage in anti social behaviour (or at least nowhere near as much) as uneducated, non working hooligans.

The problem today is not Islam or any other religion but the ongoing issue of poor upbringing and the habit of not wanting to do anything or become something in life.

As for the Halliwell/Blackburn Road area, it seems to me that the majority of British Asian youths are working or studying whereas its the opposite for the white youths.

These are just my views and without getting into mindless debates over issues that do not concern our society I leave you in peace.
Beautifully written.
[quote][p][bold]Hotshot5[/bold] wrote: It seems like the ones who know the most about mosques are the ones who have never been to one. Anyway sticking to the topic, drugs, alcohol and prostitution ruining Bolton. I agree, given that Anti Social Behaviour contributes to at least 40% of the total crime consistently speaks volume. I can't seem to understand why every topic has to be related to religion. In any event, for those arguing that Islam is the cause of Bolton's demise, please note that drugs, alcohol and prostitution are all forbidden in Islam. We all know of the Rochdale grooming case and anyone who classes the whole community as the same is just as bad. Moving on swiftly, the main problem is youths lacking good upbringing and ambition. Benefits being readily available to people who do not want to work and being cut from people who cannot work i.e disabled etc. The common argument I hear is that job opportunities are not available as immigrants willing to work for less. Last time I checked this country had a National Minimum Wage law. The above may apply to self employed workers such as builders, plumbers etc. but I refuse to believe that every benefit eating scavenger was once a builder who's job has been snatched away from him by a cheap working Eastern European. The main problem is that today's generation do not want to get an education and compete for jobs but would rather blame the increasing population of Britain for unavailabilty of jobs. The few that do want to educate themselves are demotivated by the high fees at university and incurring a large student debt which thankfully the Tory government have introduced. Britain has a culture of educating its people and the Tory government has created a major dent in its own culture. Students at universities do drink and have good time but do not engage in anti social behaviour (or at least nowhere near as much) as uneducated, non working hooligans. The problem today is not Islam or any other religion but the ongoing issue of poor upbringing and the habit of not wanting to do anything or become something in life. As for the Halliwell/Blackburn Road area, it seems to me that the majority of British Asian youths are working or studying whereas its the opposite for the white youths. These are just my views and without getting into mindless debates over issues that do not concern our society I leave you in peace.[/p][/quote]Beautifully written. Lawlesschat
  • Score: -5

3:48pm Sun 14 Jul 13

BNP(British- National- PAK) says...

Sex toys are the biggest seller in the U.K!
Why?
I don't think many buyers are the minorities.... Think hard who does that leave.
C'mon lad your 3 hours are up!
Sex toys are the biggest seller in the U.K! Why? I don't think many buyers are the minorities.... Think hard who does that leave. C'mon lad your 3 hours are up! BNP(British- National- PAK)
  • Score: -5

3:49pm Sun 14 Jul 13

BNP(British- National- PAK) says...

Hotshot5 wrote:
It seems like the ones who know the most about mosques are the ones who have never been to one.

Anyway sticking to the topic, drugs, alcohol and prostitution ruining Bolton. I agree, given that Anti Social Behaviour contributes to at least 40% of the total crime consistently speaks volume.

I can't seem to understand why every topic has to be related to religion. In any event, for those arguing that Islam is the cause of Bolton's demise, please note that drugs, alcohol and prostitution are all forbidden in Islam. We all know of the Rochdale grooming case and anyone who classes the whole community as the same is just as bad.

Moving on swiftly, the main problem is youths lacking good upbringing and ambition. Benefits being readily available to people who do not want to work and being cut from people who cannot work i.e disabled etc.

The common argument I hear is that job opportunities are not available as immigrants willing to work for less. Last time I checked this country had a National Minimum Wage law.

The above may apply to self employed workers such as builders, plumbers etc. but I refuse to believe that every benefit eating scavenger was once a builder who's job has been snatched away from him by a cheap working Eastern European.

The main problem is that today's generation do not want to get an education and compete for jobs but would rather blame the increasing population of Britain for unavailabilty of jobs.

The few that do want to educate themselves are demotivated by the high fees at university and incurring a large student debt which thankfully the Tory government have introduced.

Britain has a culture of educating its people and the Tory government has created a major dent in its own culture. Students at universities do drink and have good time but do not engage in anti social behaviour (or at least nowhere near as much) as uneducated, non working hooligans.

The problem today is not Islam or any other religion but the ongoing issue of poor upbringing and the habit of not wanting to do anything or become something in life.

As for the Halliwell/Blackburn Road area, it seems to me that the majority of British Asian youths are working or studying whereas its the opposite for the white youths.

These are just my views and without getting into mindless debates over issues that do not concern our society I leave you in peace.
APPLAUSE!
[quote][p][bold]Hotshot5[/bold] wrote: It seems like the ones who know the most about mosques are the ones who have never been to one. Anyway sticking to the topic, drugs, alcohol and prostitution ruining Bolton. I agree, given that Anti Social Behaviour contributes to at least 40% of the total crime consistently speaks volume. I can't seem to understand why every topic has to be related to religion. In any event, for those arguing that Islam is the cause of Bolton's demise, please note that drugs, alcohol and prostitution are all forbidden in Islam. We all know of the Rochdale grooming case and anyone who classes the whole community as the same is just as bad. Moving on swiftly, the main problem is youths lacking good upbringing and ambition. Benefits being readily available to people who do not want to work and being cut from people who cannot work i.e disabled etc. The common argument I hear is that job opportunities are not available as immigrants willing to work for less. Last time I checked this country had a National Minimum Wage law. The above may apply to self employed workers such as builders, plumbers etc. but I refuse to believe that every benefit eating scavenger was once a builder who's job has been snatched away from him by a cheap working Eastern European. The main problem is that today's generation do not want to get an education and compete for jobs but would rather blame the increasing population of Britain for unavailabilty of jobs. The few that do want to educate themselves are demotivated by the high fees at university and incurring a large student debt which thankfully the Tory government have introduced. Britain has a culture of educating its people and the Tory government has created a major dent in its own culture. Students at universities do drink and have good time but do not engage in anti social behaviour (or at least nowhere near as much) as uneducated, non working hooligans. The problem today is not Islam or any other religion but the ongoing issue of poor upbringing and the habit of not wanting to do anything or become something in life. As for the Halliwell/Blackburn Road area, it seems to me that the majority of British Asian youths are working or studying whereas its the opposite for the white youths. These are just my views and without getting into mindless debates over issues that do not concern our society I leave you in peace.[/p][/quote]APPLAUSE! BNP(British- National- PAK)
  • Score: -5

7:28pm Sun 14 Jul 13

ALI MINIUM KHAN says...

thomas ryder wrote:
Lawlesschat wrote:
thomas ryder wrote: They along with Bolton Council have been told over many years that this area had become a hot bed of crime and drugs etc but as in Rochdale and Blackburn local opinion was ignored and classed as racist bigots instead of the truth which was they were afraid to tackle it for fear of the racist card being played.
What are the local issues exactly? Alcohol, crime and disorder, the majority of it in Halliwell road is attributed to the white British born! Yes there is a growing issue of drug dealers, mainly from the Asian community but with that said, there's a substantial number of white British drugs dealers who live either side of Halliwell road. As with the Eastern Europeans, yes they have cultural flows that don't contrast with our own, but surely that's why they've been houses in Halliwell road because let's face it, it was already a bad state before they arrived! The issue with Bolton is its got too many deprived area's! The council need to do something to improve quality of living for people, not subjugate and place baseless blame on folk.
Do you live in the area or just pass through?
they are all is houses the scruffy coot
[quote][p][bold]thomas ryder[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lawlesschat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomas ryder[/bold] wrote: They along with Bolton Council have been told over many years that this area had become a hot bed of crime and drugs etc but as in Rochdale and Blackburn local opinion was ignored and classed as racist bigots instead of the truth which was they were afraid to tackle it for fear of the racist card being played.[/p][/quote]What are the local issues exactly? Alcohol, crime and disorder, the majority of it in Halliwell road is attributed to the white British born! Yes there is a growing issue of drug dealers, mainly from the Asian community but with that said, there's a substantial number of white British drugs dealers who live either side of Halliwell road. As with the Eastern Europeans, yes they have cultural flows that don't contrast with our own, but surely that's why they've been houses in Halliwell road because let's face it, it was already a bad state before they arrived! The issue with Bolton is its got too many deprived area's! The council need to do something to improve quality of living for people, not subjugate and place baseless blame on folk.[/p][/quote]Do you live in the area or just pass through?[/p][/quote]they are all is houses the scruffy coot ALI MINIUM KHAN
  • Score: -2

1:08pm Mon 15 Jul 13

KizzyB says...

BNP(British- National- PAK) wrote:
Hotshot5 wrote:
It seems like the ones who know the most about mosques are the ones who have never been to one.

Anyway sticking to the topic, drugs, alcohol and prostitution ruining Bolton. I agree, given that Anti Social Behaviour contributes to at least 40% of the total crime consistently speaks volume.

I can't seem to understand why every topic has to be related to religion. In any event, for those arguing that Islam is the cause of Bolton's demise, please note that drugs, alcohol and prostitution are all forbidden in Islam. We all know of the Rochdale grooming case and anyone who classes the whole community as the same is just as bad.

Moving on swiftly, the main problem is youths lacking good upbringing and ambition. Benefits being readily available to people who do not want to work and being cut from people who cannot work i.e disabled etc.

The common argument I hear is that job opportunities are not available as immigrants willing to work for less. Last time I checked this country had a National Minimum Wage law.

The above may apply to self employed workers such as builders, plumbers etc. but I refuse to believe that every benefit eating scavenger was once a builder who's job has been snatched away from him by a cheap working Eastern European.

The main problem is that today's generation do not want to get an education and compete for jobs but would rather blame the increasing population of Britain for unavailabilty of jobs.

The few that do want to educate themselves are demotivated by the high fees at university and incurring a large student debt which thankfully the Tory government have introduced.

Britain has a culture of educating its people and the Tory government has created a major dent in its own culture. Students at universities do drink and have good time but do not engage in anti social behaviour (or at least nowhere near as much) as uneducated, non working hooligans.

The problem today is not Islam or any other religion but the ongoing issue of poor upbringing and the habit of not wanting to do anything or become something in life.

As for the Halliwell/Blackburn Road area, it seems to me that the majority of British Asian youths are working or studying whereas its the opposite for the white youths.

These are just my views and without getting into mindless debates over issues that do not concern our society I leave you in peace.
APPLAUSE!
Good post!
[quote][p][bold]BNP(British- National- PAK)[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hotshot5[/bold] wrote: It seems like the ones who know the most about mosques are the ones who have never been to one. Anyway sticking to the topic, drugs, alcohol and prostitution ruining Bolton. I agree, given that Anti Social Behaviour contributes to at least 40% of the total crime consistently speaks volume. I can't seem to understand why every topic has to be related to religion. In any event, for those arguing that Islam is the cause of Bolton's demise, please note that drugs, alcohol and prostitution are all forbidden in Islam. We all know of the Rochdale grooming case and anyone who classes the whole community as the same is just as bad. Moving on swiftly, the main problem is youths lacking good upbringing and ambition. Benefits being readily available to people who do not want to work and being cut from people who cannot work i.e disabled etc. The common argument I hear is that job opportunities are not available as immigrants willing to work for less. Last time I checked this country had a National Minimum Wage law. The above may apply to self employed workers such as builders, plumbers etc. but I refuse to believe that every benefit eating scavenger was once a builder who's job has been snatched away from him by a cheap working Eastern European. The main problem is that today's generation do not want to get an education and compete for jobs but would rather blame the increasing population of Britain for unavailabilty of jobs. The few that do want to educate themselves are demotivated by the high fees at university and incurring a large student debt which thankfully the Tory government have introduced. Britain has a culture of educating its people and the Tory government has created a major dent in its own culture. Students at universities do drink and have good time but do not engage in anti social behaviour (or at least nowhere near as much) as uneducated, non working hooligans. The problem today is not Islam or any other religion but the ongoing issue of poor upbringing and the habit of not wanting to do anything or become something in life. As for the Halliwell/Blackburn Road area, it seems to me that the majority of British Asian youths are working or studying whereas its the opposite for the white youths. These are just my views and without getting into mindless debates over issues that do not concern our society I leave you in peace.[/p][/quote]APPLAUSE![/p][/quote]Good post! KizzyB
  • Score: -5

5:32pm Tue 16 Jul 13

NotPCme says...

KizzyB wrote:
BNP(British- National- PAK) wrote:
Hotshot5 wrote:
It seems like the ones who know the most about mosques are the ones who have never been to one.

Anyway sticking to the topic, drugs, alcohol and prostitution ruining Bolton. I agree, given that Anti Social Behaviour contributes to at least 40% of the total crime consistently speaks volume.

I can't seem to understand why every topic has to be related to religion. In any event, for those arguing that Islam is the cause of Bolton's demise, please note that drugs, alcohol and prostitution are all forbidden in Islam. We all know of the Rochdale grooming case and anyone who classes the whole community as the same is just as bad.

Moving on swiftly, the main problem is youths lacking good upbringing and ambition. Benefits being readily available to people who do not want to work and being cut from people who cannot work i.e disabled etc.

The common argument I hear is that job opportunities are not available as immigrants willing to work for less. Last time I checked this country had a National Minimum Wage law.

The above may apply to self employed workers such as builders, plumbers etc. but I refuse to believe that every benefit eating scavenger was once a builder who's job has been snatched away from him by a cheap working Eastern European.

The main problem is that today's generation do not want to get an education and compete for jobs but would rather blame the increasing population of Britain for unavailabilty of jobs.

The few that do want to educate themselves are demotivated by the high fees at university and incurring a large student debt which thankfully the Tory government have introduced.

Britain has a culture of educating its people and the Tory government has created a major dent in its own culture. Students at universities do drink and have good time but do not engage in anti social behaviour (or at least nowhere near as much) as uneducated, non working hooligans.

The problem today is not Islam or any other religion but the ongoing issue of poor upbringing and the habit of not wanting to do anything or become something in life.

As for the Halliwell/Blackburn Road area, it seems to me that the majority of British Asian youths are working or studying whereas its the opposite for the white youths.

These are just my views and without getting into mindless debates over issues that do not concern our society I leave you in peace.
APPLAUSE!
Good post!
Through the eyes of a Muslim! Typical!
[quote][p][bold]KizzyB[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BNP(British- National- PAK)[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hotshot5[/bold] wrote: It seems like the ones who know the most about mosques are the ones who have never been to one. Anyway sticking to the topic, drugs, alcohol and prostitution ruining Bolton. I agree, given that Anti Social Behaviour contributes to at least 40% of the total crime consistently speaks volume. I can't seem to understand why every topic has to be related to religion. In any event, for those arguing that Islam is the cause of Bolton's demise, please note that drugs, alcohol and prostitution are all forbidden in Islam. We all know of the Rochdale grooming case and anyone who classes the whole community as the same is just as bad. Moving on swiftly, the main problem is youths lacking good upbringing and ambition. Benefits being readily available to people who do not want to work and being cut from people who cannot work i.e disabled etc. The common argument I hear is that job opportunities are not available as immigrants willing to work for less. Last time I checked this country had a National Minimum Wage law. The above may apply to self employed workers such as builders, plumbers etc. but I refuse to believe that every benefit eating scavenger was once a builder who's job has been snatched away from him by a cheap working Eastern European. The main problem is that today's generation do not want to get an education and compete for jobs but would rather blame the increasing population of Britain for unavailabilty of jobs. The few that do want to educate themselves are demotivated by the high fees at university and incurring a large student debt which thankfully the Tory government have introduced. Britain has a culture of educating its people and the Tory government has created a major dent in its own culture. Students at universities do drink and have good time but do not engage in anti social behaviour (or at least nowhere near as much) as uneducated, non working hooligans. The problem today is not Islam or any other religion but the ongoing issue of poor upbringing and the habit of not wanting to do anything or become something in life. As for the Halliwell/Blackburn Road area, it seems to me that the majority of British Asian youths are working or studying whereas its the opposite for the white youths. These are just my views and without getting into mindless debates over issues that do not concern our society I leave you in peace.[/p][/quote]APPLAUSE![/p][/quote]Good post![/p][/quote]Through the eyes of a Muslim! Typical! NotPCme
  • Score: 2

2:04pm Wed 17 Jul 13

JennieLeanne says...

I have lived in halliwell for 2 years now and can honestly say i have never seen a prostitute lol, i live towards the top end and find is peaceful and nice place to live, we have a few problems now and again but never anything to bad! we have a few eastern Europeans near us and they do litter a lot but if u ask them to stop they do so! if you all say its been going on years why is it only now something is being done!
I have lived in halliwell for 2 years now and can honestly say i have never seen a prostitute lol, i live towards the top end and find is peaceful and nice place to live, we have a few problems now and again but never anything to bad! we have a few eastern Europeans near us and they do litter a lot but if u ask them to stop they do so! if you all say its been going on years why is it only now something is being done! JennieLeanne
  • Score: 0

9:46pm Wed 17 Jul 13

KizzyB says...

NotPCme wrote:
KizzyB wrote:
BNP(British- National- PAK) wrote:
Hotshot5 wrote:
It seems like the ones who know the most about mosques are the ones who have never been to one.

Anyway sticking to the topic, drugs, alcohol and prostitution ruining Bolton. I agree, given that Anti Social Behaviour contributes to at least 40% of the total crime consistently speaks volume.

I can't seem to understand why every topic has to be related to religion. In any event, for those arguing that Islam is the cause of Bolton's demise, please note that drugs, alcohol and prostitution are all forbidden in Islam. We all know of the Rochdale grooming case and anyone who classes the whole community as the same is just as bad.

Moving on swiftly, the main problem is youths lacking good upbringing and ambition. Benefits being readily available to people who do not want to work and being cut from people who cannot work i.e disabled etc.

The common argument I hear is that job opportunities are not available as immigrants willing to work for less. Last time I checked this country had a National Minimum Wage law.

The above may apply to self employed workers such as builders, plumbers etc. but I refuse to believe that every benefit eating scavenger was once a builder who's job has been snatched away from him by a cheap working Eastern European.

The main problem is that today's generation do not want to get an education and compete for jobs but would rather blame the increasing population of Britain for unavailabilty of jobs.

The few that do want to educate themselves are demotivated by the high fees at university and incurring a large student debt which thankfully the Tory government have introduced.

Britain has a culture of educating its people and the Tory government has created a major dent in its own culture. Students at universities do drink and have good time but do not engage in anti social behaviour (or at least nowhere near as much) as uneducated, non working hooligans.

The problem today is not Islam or any other religion but the ongoing issue of poor upbringing and the habit of not wanting to do anything or become something in life.

As for the Halliwell/Blackburn Road area, it seems to me that the majority of British Asian youths are working or studying whereas its the opposite for the white youths.

These are just my views and without getting into mindless debates over issues that do not concern our society I leave you in peace.
APPLAUSE!
Good post!
Through the eyes of a Muslim! Typical!
If you are referring to me I feel I should inform you that I am not a Muslim. But, I have been for a look around a mosque; and a synagogue! Why not? I like people, I like meeting new people and listening to them. It doesn't matter a jot to me what people wear, or where they worship.
[quote][p][bold]NotPCme[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KizzyB[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BNP(British- National- PAK)[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hotshot5[/bold] wrote: It seems like the ones who know the most about mosques are the ones who have never been to one. Anyway sticking to the topic, drugs, alcohol and prostitution ruining Bolton. I agree, given that Anti Social Behaviour contributes to at least 40% of the total crime consistently speaks volume. I can't seem to understand why every topic has to be related to religion. In any event, for those arguing that Islam is the cause of Bolton's demise, please note that drugs, alcohol and prostitution are all forbidden in Islam. We all know of the Rochdale grooming case and anyone who classes the whole community as the same is just as bad. Moving on swiftly, the main problem is youths lacking good upbringing and ambition. Benefits being readily available to people who do not want to work and being cut from people who cannot work i.e disabled etc. The common argument I hear is that job opportunities are not available as immigrants willing to work for less. Last time I checked this country had a National Minimum Wage law. The above may apply to self employed workers such as builders, plumbers etc. but I refuse to believe that every benefit eating scavenger was once a builder who's job has been snatched away from him by a cheap working Eastern European. The main problem is that today's generation do not want to get an education and compete for jobs but would rather blame the increasing population of Britain for unavailabilty of jobs. The few that do want to educate themselves are demotivated by the high fees at university and incurring a large student debt which thankfully the Tory government have introduced. Britain has a culture of educating its people and the Tory government has created a major dent in its own culture. Students at universities do drink and have good time but do not engage in anti social behaviour (or at least nowhere near as much) as uneducated, non working hooligans. The problem today is not Islam or any other religion but the ongoing issue of poor upbringing and the habit of not wanting to do anything or become something in life. As for the Halliwell/Blackburn Road area, it seems to me that the majority of British Asian youths are working or studying whereas its the opposite for the white youths. These are just my views and without getting into mindless debates over issues that do not concern our society I leave you in peace.[/p][/quote]APPLAUSE![/p][/quote]Good post![/p][/quote]Through the eyes of a Muslim! Typical![/p][/quote]If you are referring to me I feel I should inform you that I am not a Muslim. But, I have been for a look around a mosque; and a synagogue! Why not? I like people, I like meeting new people and listening to them. It doesn't matter a jot to me what people wear, or where they worship. KizzyB
  • Score: -2

10:05pm Wed 17 Jul 13

KizzyB says...

thomas ryder wrote:
JohnTheBaptist wrote:
Nicola32 wrote: yeah alot of white families have given up because they have lost control of their kids,yes there is alot of unemployment around so the blow their benefits on drugs and alcohol because they have nothing better to do.yes those unruly nasty chav kids need a slap.yes those immigrants are taking the mickey....we are all aware of the social problems we face but the local government are too spineless to get stuck in and change things.they make sink estates so nicer people can live somewhere else nice and quietly whilst all the poor live in one space...ghettos more or less.its all about the money for councils and basically as per usual they dont like spending.the police..well they arrest and the courts do naff all.society is well and truely broken and nobody wants to fix it.the muslim corner shop man straight thru to the greedy supermarket chains are making a packet from the money spent on fags and alcohol.they dont care.its just all about money and not about making a positive change
Why did you have mention "muslim" when it came to the cornershop man? Why didnt you mention the "christian" scum bags?
When you pay your own rent you can live where you like and Brits overseas dont claim benefits. South Africa was the bread basket of Africa when run by whites, now after years of the ANC its become a basket case.
'South Africa' managed perfectly well before the 'whites' arrived. For thousands of years. Ditto the indigenous people of 'Australia'.
[quote][p][bold]thomas ryder[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JohnTheBaptist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nicola32[/bold] wrote: yeah alot of white families have given up because they have lost control of their kids,yes there is alot of unemployment around so the blow their benefits on drugs and alcohol because they have nothing better to do.yes those unruly nasty chav kids need a slap.yes those immigrants are taking the mickey....we are all aware of the social problems we face but the local government are too spineless to get stuck in and change things.they make sink estates so nicer people can live somewhere else nice and quietly whilst all the poor live in one space...ghettos more or less.its all about the money for councils and basically as per usual they dont like spending.the police..well they arrest and the courts do naff all.society is well and truely broken and nobody wants to fix it.the muslim corner shop man straight thru to the greedy supermarket chains are making a packet from the money spent on fags and alcohol.they dont care.its just all about money and not about making a positive change[/p][/quote]Why did you have mention "muslim" when it came to the cornershop man? Why didnt you mention the "christian" scum bags?[/p][/quote]When you pay your own rent you can live where you like and Brits overseas dont claim benefits. South Africa was the bread basket of Africa when run by whites, now after years of the ANC its become a basket case.[/p][/quote]'South Africa' managed perfectly well before the 'whites' arrived. For thousands of years. Ditto the indigenous people of 'Australia'. KizzyB
  • Score: -2

10:10pm Wed 17 Jul 13

KizzyB says...

It does make me laugh when people blame problems like drugs, alcohol and prostitution on recent immigrants. Hogarth's 'Gin Lane' anyone? Prostitution was also rife in Victorian Britain, many used opium. The life of the average working class Brit was indeed 'nasty, brutish and short'; so one could not blame them for seeking oblivion in 'John Barleycorn'.
It does make me laugh when people blame problems like drugs, alcohol and prostitution on recent immigrants. Hogarth's 'Gin Lane' anyone? Prostitution was also rife in Victorian Britain, many used opium. The life of the average working class Brit was indeed 'nasty, brutish and short'; so one could not blame them for seeking oblivion in 'John Barleycorn'. KizzyB
  • Score: -1

8:14pm Fri 19 Jul 13

grimtown says...

Scummy asian taxi drivers at Metro cabs raping 15 year old boy.
There will as Enoch Powell said rivers of blood
Scummy asian taxi drivers at Metro cabs raping 15 year old boy. There will as Enoch Powell said rivers of blood grimtown
  • Score: 3

9:08pm Fri 19 Jul 13

KizzyB says...

grimtown wrote:
Scummy asian taxi drivers at Metro cabs raping 15 year old boy.
There will as Enoch Powell said rivers of blood
Was your use of the plural deliberate? You seem to be implying something. I'd be very careful if I was you. One criminal taxi driver does not make all taxi drivers criminal. I can think of lots of non Asians who have committed horrific crimes. Robert Black and Peter Tobin? Perhaps we should invade Scotland and get our own back? Hindley and Brady? Come to think of it, he is Scottish! You may have a point! God, if you count up all the murdering toe rags who have taken the lives of innocent children, I think you will find most of them are British. Huntley's another. Robert Venables and John Thompson. I think you get the point. But then again you don't seem to be very intelligent.
[quote][p][bold]grimtown[/bold] wrote: Scummy asian taxi drivers at Metro cabs raping 15 year old boy. There will as Enoch Powell said rivers of blood[/p][/quote]Was your use of the plural deliberate? You seem to be implying something. I'd be very careful if I was you. One criminal taxi driver does not make all taxi drivers criminal. I can think of lots of non Asians who have committed horrific crimes. Robert Black and Peter Tobin? Perhaps we should invade Scotland and get our own back? Hindley and Brady? Come to think of it, he is Scottish! You may have a point! God, if you count up all the murdering toe rags who have taken the lives of innocent children, I think you will find most of them are British. Huntley's another. Robert Venables and John Thompson. I think you get the point. But then again you don't seem to be very intelligent. KizzyB
  • Score: 1

4:36pm Fri 26 Jul 13

immyg1971 says...

grimtown wrote:
Scummy asian taxi drivers at Metro cabs raping 15 year old boy.
There will as Enoch Powell said rivers of blood
fffffffffruitcake!!!
!!
[quote][p][bold]grimtown[/bold] wrote: Scummy asian taxi drivers at Metro cabs raping 15 year old boy. There will as Enoch Powell said rivers of blood[/p][/quote]fffffffffruitcake!!! !! immyg1971
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