Row erupts over 'secret green papers' leaflet in run-up to Horwich by-election

The Bolton News: The leaflet that sparked a row at the latest Horwich town council meeting The leaflet that sparked a row at the latest Horwich town council meeting

COUNCILLORS have reignited a furious row over leaflets in the run up to a by-election.

Members of Labour and the Liberal Democrats clashed at a meeting of Horwich Town Council when Labour leader Kevan Helsby complained about a Lib Dem leaflet used in the run up to the recent Brazley Ward by-election, which was won by Labour’s Kevin McKeon.

The leaflet, entitled “Labour’s secret papers exposed” claimed that the Labour-dominated town council wants to make council documents more secret, by proposing a raft of new colours for its documents, including green paper for confidential items.

The Horwich Labour group reacted angrily to the flyer, with Cllr Helsby stating that the plans were simply an administrative issue.

He said: “I’ve already explained twice that the only change would be that any confidential item will be on green paper.

“This does not mean there are going to be more confidential items. Other councils, including Bolton Council do this and so we are adopting the same processes.”

At the meeting, Cllr Helsby asked Stephen Rock, the leader of the Lib Dems on Horwich Town Council to apologise for the leaflet, an offer that Cllr Rock did not choose to take up.

He said: “They say they are following Bolton Council but Horwich is a town council and that is different — we think everything within reason should be open to the public.”

Cllr Helsby accused the Liberal Democrats of “lowering the tone” with their election campaign — which also included a leaflet criticising Horwich and Blackrod Ward coun-cillor Lindsey Kell because she now lives in Oxford.

Cllr Kell recently told The Bolton News she left her home in Blackrod in June after suffering two years of abuse from a stalker who would turn up outside her house and at council meetings.

He said: “Unfortunately there has been a procession of these things from the Liberal Democrats.”

But Cllr Rock said that Labour were trying to “score political points” by bringing the issue up at the town council meeting.

He added: “It wasn’t on the agenda and shouldn’t have been discussed — but politics is politics and if they can’t take it, they shouldn’t give it out.”

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10:01am Wed 4 Dec 13

filthy6 says...

Now, now boys - let's play nice
Now, now boys - let's play nice filthy6

10:28am Wed 4 Dec 13

steverock6@sky.com says...

filthy6 wrote:
Now, now boys - let's play nice
I would love to play nice but Labour can't I have threats and attacks over the last few elections they should not do this and expect no retaliation the public have a right to know how there money is spent!
[quote][p][bold]filthy6[/bold] wrote: Now, now boys - let's play nice[/p][/quote]I would love to play nice but Labour can't I have threats and attacks over the last few elections they should not do this and expect no retaliation the public have a right to know how there money is spent! steverock6@sky.com

10:41am Wed 4 Dec 13

filthy6 says...

steverock6@sky.com wrote:
filthy6 wrote: Now, now boys - let's play nice
I would love to play nice but Labour can't I have threats and attacks over the last few elections they should not do this and expect no retaliation the public have a right to know how there money is spent!
Ok - I don't know about that & good luck to you in the local elections.
But, are you saying that the printing of already confidential documents on green paper instead of white will seriously hit the public purse?
[quote][p][bold]steverock6@sky.com[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]filthy6[/bold] wrote: Now, now boys - let's play nice[/p][/quote]I would love to play nice but Labour can't I have threats and attacks over the last few elections they should not do this and expect no retaliation the public have a right to know how there money is spent![/p][/quote]Ok - I don't know about that & good luck to you in the local elections. But, are you saying that the printing of already confidential documents on green paper instead of white will seriously hit the public purse? filthy6

11:17am Wed 4 Dec 13

steverock6@sky.com says...

filthy6 wrote:
steverock6@sky.com wrote:
filthy6 wrote: Now, now boys - let's play nice
I would love to play nice but Labour can't I have threats and attacks over the last few elections they should not do this and expect no retaliation the public have a right to know how there money is spent!
Ok - I don't know about that & good luck to you in the local elections.
But, are you saying that the printing of already confidential documents on green paper instead of white will seriously hit the public purse?
The only items that need to be confidential are wages for staff and contracts the reason the Labour group want to bring this in is so they can stop the Lib Dems from informing the public of what they are doing such as turning off the CCTV cameras and trying to scrap the Christmas lights I asked for guidelines on what was confidential but they could not or would not do this meaning if we don't want people to know we will make it confidential!
[quote][p][bold]filthy6[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]steverock6@sky.com[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]filthy6[/bold] wrote: Now, now boys - let's play nice[/p][/quote]I would love to play nice but Labour can't I have threats and attacks over the last few elections they should not do this and expect no retaliation the public have a right to know how there money is spent![/p][/quote]Ok - I don't know about that & good luck to you in the local elections. But, are you saying that the printing of already confidential documents on green paper instead of white will seriously hit the public purse?[/p][/quote]The only items that need to be confidential are wages for staff and contracts the reason the Labour group want to bring this in is so they can stop the Lib Dems from informing the public of what they are doing such as turning off the CCTV cameras and trying to scrap the Christmas lights I asked for guidelines on what was confidential but they could not or would not do this meaning if we don't want people to know we will make it confidential! steverock6@sky.com

12:37pm Wed 4 Dec 13

filthy6 says...

In that case power to your elbow...!
In that case power to your elbow...! filthy6

12:44pm Wed 4 Dec 13

jellbellkell says...

What happened to ukip???
What happened to ukip??? jellbellkell

5:24pm Wed 4 Dec 13

atlas123 says...

What use is the town council anyway, scrap the town council and scrap the precept.

If all we get from the town council are a few manky xmas lights id rather not bother. Before you ramble on about remembrance parades other places manage them without a town council.

Turning off the CCTV has not made one jot of difference in the town IMHO.
What use is the town council anyway, scrap the town council and scrap the precept. If all we get from the town council are a few manky xmas lights id rather not bother. Before you ramble on about remembrance parades other places manage them without a town council. Turning off the CCTV has not made one jot of difference in the town IMHO. atlas123

11:34pm Wed 4 Dec 13

steverock6@sky.com says...

atlas123 wrote:
What use is the town council anyway, scrap the town council and scrap the precept.

If all we get from the town council are a few manky xmas lights id rather not bother. Before you ramble on about remembrance parades other places manage them without a town council.

Turning off the CCTV has not made one jot of difference in the town IMHO.
When someone gets hurt in the town centre you can say the cctv has made no difference! you can also say there is now no resource centre for charity groups no grants for the many voluntary organisations from the town council or grants for the carnival and cycle races this is what the precept pays for nothing else you would not get all these things if the town council did not exist before you make comments have a look at what the town council does for the town remember the old saying to see one has to just open your eyes!
[quote][p][bold]atlas123[/bold] wrote: What use is the town council anyway, scrap the town council and scrap the precept. If all we get from the town council are a few manky xmas lights id rather not bother. Before you ramble on about remembrance parades other places manage them without a town council. Turning off the CCTV has not made one jot of difference in the town IMHO.[/p][/quote]When someone gets hurt in the town centre you can say the cctv has made no difference! you can also say there is now no resource centre for charity groups no grants for the many voluntary organisations from the town council or grants for the carnival and cycle races this is what the precept pays for nothing else you would not get all these things if the town council did not exist before you make comments have a look at what the town council does for the town remember the old saying to see one has to just open your eyes! steverock6@sky.com

11:36pm Wed 4 Dec 13

steverock6@sky.com says...

steverock6@sky.com wrote:
filthy6 wrote:
steverock6@sky.com wrote:
filthy6 wrote: Now, now boys - let's play nice
I would love to play nice but Labour can't I have threats and attacks over the last few elections they should not do this and expect no retaliation the public have a right to know how there money is spent!
Ok - I don't know about that & good luck to you in the local elections.
But, are you saying that the printing of already confidential documents on green paper instead of white will seriously hit the public purse?
The only items that need to be confidential are wages for staff and contracts the reason the Labour group want to bring this in is so they can stop the Lib Dems from informing the public of what they are doing such as turning off the CCTV cameras and trying to scrap the Christmas lights I asked for guidelines on what was confidential but they could not or would not do this meaning if we don't want people to know we will make it confidential!
thanks I just want to serve the people of the town and make more transparent and a better place to live
[quote][p][bold]steverock6@sky.com[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]filthy6[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]steverock6@sky.com[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]filthy6[/bold] wrote: Now, now boys - let's play nice[/p][/quote]I would love to play nice but Labour can't I have threats and attacks over the last few elections they should not do this and expect no retaliation the public have a right to know how there money is spent![/p][/quote]Ok - I don't know about that & good luck to you in the local elections. But, are you saying that the printing of already confidential documents on green paper instead of white will seriously hit the public purse?[/p][/quote]The only items that need to be confidential are wages for staff and contracts the reason the Labour group want to bring this in is so they can stop the Lib Dems from informing the public of what they are doing such as turning off the CCTV cameras and trying to scrap the Christmas lights I asked for guidelines on what was confidential but they could not or would not do this meaning if we don't want people to know we will make it confidential![/p][/quote]thanks I just want to serve the people of the town and make more transparent and a better place to live steverock6@sky.com

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