Bolton MPs welcome ban on smoking in cars with children

Bolton MPs are in favour of a ban on smoking in cars while children are present

Bolton MPs are in favour of a ban on smoking in cars while children are present

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A BAN on smoking in cars while children are present has been welcomed by Bolton’s MPs.

MPs voted in favour of the Labour-led amendment to the Children and Families Bill, giving health secretary Jeremy Hunt the power to create a new law — although it could be some time before it is introduced.

Opponents have said the new law would be difficult to enforce, but Bolton West MP Julie Hilling, who was present for the vote, said she thought it would be treated the same as driving without a seatbelt.

She said: “I think we know that second-hand smoke causes damage, particularly to children, and it just seems logical that if it’s banned in bars, it should be banned in cars where children are present.

“In many ways I think it is not about how to police it. It also sends a very strong message to everybody about how dangerous second hand smoke is. It is changing the norm and changing the public’s perception.”

Bolton South East MP Yasmin Qureshi missed the vote due to ill health, but said she was also supportive of the change in law.

She said: “I would have voted for the amendment. Although the majority of people are responsible and don’t smoke in the presence of children while driving, some are not. Therefore children are in a vehicle, in a confined space, where they don’t have the choice of whether to leave the car or not, so I think it’s appropriate to protect them from second-hand smoke.

“Hopefully it will encourage people to get into better habits and reduce the number of people smoking.”

MP for Bolton North East David Crausby was not present at the debate as he was visiting Ukraine with representatives from NATO.

Conservative MP for Rossendale and Darwen, Jake Berry, who represents resident in Belmont and Edgworth, also voted in favour of the ban, after asking people for their views on Facebook and Twitter.

Figures released by the British Lung Foundation in 2013 show more than 430,000 children aged 11 to 15 in England are exposed to second-hand smoke in family cars.

A spokesperson for Public Health Bolton said: “Children are particularly vulnerable to second hand smoke, as they have smaller lungs, faster breathing and less developed immune systems, which make them more susceptible to respiratory and ear infections triggered by second-hand smoking.”

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2:54pm Wed 12 Feb 14

Mick England says...

It isn't a "law" and never will be, it's a "bill" that will later become nothing more than a money making act! How much money do we have to pay back to the wealthy bankers by enforcing statutes this time? The six billion our government borrowed on the promise that speed cameras would pay it back within four years, must have been payed back by now, surely?
It isn't a "law" and never will be, it's a "bill" that will later become nothing more than a money making act! How much money do we have to pay back to the wealthy bankers by enforcing statutes this time? The six billion our government borrowed on the promise that speed cameras would pay it back within four years, must have been payed back by now, surely? Mick England
  • Score: 44

3:34pm Wed 12 Feb 14

boltonnut says...

This is not about any one making money,it's about a healthier environment for children who don't yet have a say or a choice in the matter.
This is not about any one making money,it's about a healthier environment for children who don't yet have a say or a choice in the matter. boltonnut
  • Score: -27

4:00pm Wed 12 Feb 14

lv8151 says...

i do understand why this is happening but it would be interesting to see a study done on the effect that car fumes have on babies and toddlers whilst being pushed down the road in a buggie or pushchair ... inhaling carbon monoxide cant be good for them ... . and it may keep the anti-smoking car drivers quiet for a while
i do understand why this is happening but it would be interesting to see a study done on the effect that car fumes have on babies and toddlers whilst being pushed down the road in a buggie or pushchair ... inhaling carbon monoxide cant be good for them ... . and it may keep the anti-smoking car drivers quiet for a while lv8151
  • Score: 55

5:41pm Wed 12 Feb 14

berushka says...

and when smoking is finally outlawed everywhere, I am certain the anti-smoking brigade will gladly cough up the extra six billion pounds in taxes that will be lost from tobacco revenue. Why not just ban living altogether, instead of eroding people's;freedom bit by bit.

Of course the three labour idiots have to support their leader, but let's hope none of them are caught having a smoke in the House lounge!
and when smoking is finally outlawed everywhere, I am certain the anti-smoking brigade will gladly cough up the extra six billion pounds in taxes that will be lost from tobacco revenue. Why not just ban living altogether, instead of eroding people's;freedom bit by bit. Of course the three labour idiots have to support their leader, but let's hope none of them are caught having a smoke in the House lounge! berushka
  • Score: 37

6:20pm Wed 12 Feb 14

Mick England says...

But who has the right to tell you what you can and can't do! Do you think the same every time your family brush their teeth with fluoride toothpaste, or drink water with added flouride? Why no ban on that because it's far more toxic than any chemical in a cigarette! And do you never question what's in your flu jab or in the MMR jab or do you just believe the propaganda you're told?
But who has the right to tell you what you can and can't do! Do you think the same every time your family brush their teeth with fluoride toothpaste, or drink water with added flouride? Why no ban on that because it's far more toxic than any chemical in a cigarette! And do you never question what's in your flu jab or in the MMR jab or do you just believe the propaganda you're told? Mick England
  • Score: 54

6:27pm Wed 12 Feb 14

Mick England says...

50 REASONS TO OPPOSE FLUORIDATION!
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50 REASONS TO OPPOSE FLUORIDATION! . fluoridealert.org/ar ticles/50-reasons/ Mick England
  • Score: 25

6:29pm Wed 12 Feb 14

Mick England says...

Hmmm boltonnut????
Hmmm boltonnut???? Mick England
  • Score: 1

6:51pm Wed 12 Feb 14

Mick England says...

I decide what's best for my child without any assistance from the illuminate thanks! I know my kids better than anyone and wouldn't ever hurt them by doing anything I decide is not in their best interest. I reckon parents should be prosecuted for having fat kids and being fat themselves, and not being good role models by stuffing their fat faces in front of their kids so let's "outlaw" fatties eating burgers with kids present, but make it OK if you scoff a lettuce while they watch! I only say that because all my family are not fat, so I'm ok! Am I being discriminatory or just targeting a group in order to make money from them? Can't wait for the day I see a fattie in ASDA being told they can only buy 3 Mars bars each visit, and cannot buy anymore because there might be for the kids and therefore a possibility that she/he would assist in making their kids fatter! F-off with the **** we aren't living in pre 1939 National Socialist Germany!
I decide what's best for my child without any assistance from the illuminate thanks! I know my kids better than anyone and wouldn't ever hurt them by doing anything I decide is not in their best interest. I reckon parents should be prosecuted for having fat kids and being fat themselves, and not being good role models by stuffing their fat faces in front of their kids so let's "outlaw" fatties eating burgers with kids present, but make it OK if you scoff a lettuce while they watch! I only say that because all my family are not fat, so I'm ok! Am I being discriminatory or just targeting a group in order to make money from them? Can't wait for the day I see a fattie in ASDA being told they can only buy 3 Mars bars each visit, and cannot buy anymore because there might be for the kids and therefore a possibility that she/he would assist in making their kids fatter! F-off with the **** we aren't living in pre 1939 National Socialist Germany! Mick England
  • Score: 89

9:30am Thu 13 Feb 14

nozza17 says...

berushka wrote:
and when smoking is finally outlawed everywhere, I am certain the anti-smoking brigade will gladly cough up the extra six billion pounds in taxes that will be lost from tobacco revenue. Why not just ban living altogether, instead of eroding people's;freedom bit by bit. Of course the three labour idiots have to support their leader, but let's hope none of them are caught having a smoke in the House lounge!
What about people's freedom not to have to inhale smoke?
[quote][p][bold]berushka[/bold] wrote: and when smoking is finally outlawed everywhere, I am certain the anti-smoking brigade will gladly cough up the extra six billion pounds in taxes that will be lost from tobacco revenue. Why not just ban living altogether, instead of eroding people's;freedom bit by bit. Of course the three labour idiots have to support their leader, but let's hope none of them are caught having a smoke in the House lounge![/p][/quote]What about people's freedom not to have to inhale smoke? nozza17
  • Score: -5

9:33am Thu 13 Feb 14

nozza17 says...

Hey bersushka, who ever complained about the disgusting smell of a mars bar?

That fatty you refer to is not discomforting anyone by eating her mars bars, unlike smokers who are typically self centred and expect everyone should just put up with the disgusting trail of smoke and fumes they leave behind them.
Hey bersushka, who ever complained about the disgusting smell of a mars bar? That fatty you refer to is not discomforting anyone by eating her mars bars, unlike smokers who are typically self centred and expect everyone should just put up with the disgusting trail of smoke and fumes they leave behind them. nozza17
  • Score: -3

9:45am Thu 13 Feb 14

lv8151 says...

nozza17 wrote:
Hey bersushka, who ever complained about the disgusting smell of a mars bar?

That fatty you refer to is not discomforting anyone by eating her mars bars, unlike smokers who are typically self centred and expect everyone should just put up with the disgusting trail of smoke and fumes they leave behind them.
you mean like car drivers ... do you drive a car .... does youre exhaust leave a carbon monoxide trail of smoke and fumes
[quote][p][bold]nozza17[/bold] wrote: Hey bersushka, who ever complained about the disgusting smell of a mars bar? That fatty you refer to is not discomforting anyone by eating her mars bars, unlike smokers who are typically self centred and expect everyone should just put up with the disgusting trail of smoke and fumes they leave behind them.[/p][/quote]you mean like car drivers ... do you drive a car .... does youre exhaust leave a carbon monoxide trail of smoke and fumes lv8151
  • Score: 4

9:48am Thu 13 Feb 14

lv8151 says...

lv8151 wrote:
nozza17 wrote:
Hey bersushka, who ever complained about the disgusting smell of a mars bar?

That fatty you refer to is not discomforting anyone by eating her mars bars, unlike smokers who are typically self centred and expect everyone should just put up with the disgusting trail of smoke and fumes they leave behind them.
you mean like car drivers ... do you drive a car .... does youre exhaust leave a carbon monoxide trail of smoke and fumes
and just to add .... i am not a smoker or a driver
[quote][p][bold]lv8151[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nozza17[/bold] wrote: Hey bersushka, who ever complained about the disgusting smell of a mars bar? That fatty you refer to is not discomforting anyone by eating her mars bars, unlike smokers who are typically self centred and expect everyone should just put up with the disgusting trail of smoke and fumes they leave behind them.[/p][/quote]you mean like car drivers ... do you drive a car .... does youre exhaust leave a carbon monoxide trail of smoke and fumes[/p][/quote]and just to add .... i am not a smoker or a driver lv8151
  • Score: 3

2:12pm Thu 13 Feb 14

Mick England says...

Don't you think that being overweight directly impacts on a childs health and welfare, I don't see any fatties playing football with their kids in the park, or going out on a bike ride round Rivington, do you? Oh and by the way it wasn't bersushka that made the comment, it was me! And before we get anyone on here saying what I've said isn't politically correct, then ITV should be approached for writing fat Brenda into Coronation St taxi office!
Don't you think that being overweight directly impacts on a childs health and welfare, I don't see any fatties playing football with their kids in the park, or going out on a bike ride round Rivington, do you? Oh and by the way it wasn't bersushka that made the comment, it was me! And before we get anyone on here saying what I've said isn't politically correct, then ITV should be approached for writing fat Brenda into Coronation St taxi office! Mick England
  • Score: 1

4:58pm Thu 13 Feb 14

AdeleTeresa says...

People should not put kids through passsive smoking full stop. I quit when I was pregnant but started again when my daughter was a few months old and I smoked outside with the door shut as did my guests because I cared about my childs health . I tried where possible to avoid smokey Places. Then a few years later I quit for good because I wanted to set a better example. Best thing I ever did.
People should not put kids through passsive smoking full stop. I quit when I was pregnant but started again when my daughter was a few months old and I smoked outside with the door shut as did my guests because I cared about my childs health . I tried where possible to avoid smokey Places. Then a few years later I quit for good because I wanted to set a better example. Best thing I ever did. AdeleTeresa
  • Score: 0

6:11pm Thu 13 Feb 14

Mick England says...

AdeleTeresa wrote:
People should not put kids through passsive smoking full stop. I quit when I was pregnant but started again when my daughter was a few months old and I smoked outside with the door shut as did my guests because I cared about my childs health . I tried where possible to avoid smokey Places. Then a few years later I quit for good because I wanted to set a better example. Best thing I ever did.
Well done to you, I smoke and drive and smoke in my car when my kids aren't in it, I do that because I choose to do that and not because I'm ordered to do it with threats of fines and prosecution! Can I ask you though Adele do you allow your children to drink water and use toothpaste, because if you do then maybe your duty of care as a parent, may not be what you desire it to be?
[quote][p][bold]AdeleTeresa[/bold] wrote: People should not put kids through passsive smoking full stop. I quit when I was pregnant but started again when my daughter was a few months old and I smoked outside with the door shut as did my guests because I cared about my childs health . I tried where possible to avoid smokey Places. Then a few years later I quit for good because I wanted to set a better example. Best thing I ever did.[/p][/quote]Well done to you, I smoke and drive and smoke in my car when my kids aren't in it, I do that because I choose to do that and not because I'm ordered to do it with threats of fines and prosecution! Can I ask you though Adele do you allow your children to drink water and use toothpaste, because if you do then maybe your duty of care as a parent, may not be what you desire it to be? Mick England
  • Score: -1

7:40pm Thu 13 Feb 14

berushka says...

nozza17 wrote:
Hey bersushka, who ever complained about the disgusting smell of a mars bar?

That fatty you refer to is not discomforting anyone by eating her mars bars, unlike smokers who are typically self centred and expect everyone should just put up with the disgusting trail of smoke and fumes they leave behind them.
Try to read the posts a little better It was not me referring to overweight people, but our good friend Micky England! He does make a good point, though. Passive smoking is a dubious argument, but the horrible smell of cooking wafting out of take aways makes me sick, the exhaust fumes of HGV's give me a headache, and the abusive noise of today's so-called music give me stomach ache, but who's complaining? Nobody! Yet my private cigarette, in my private car is my business, yet so many busybodies want to poke their noses in. And yes, the smell of a mars bar is disgusting, nay life-threatening to anyone like me who has a total nut allergy, being in very close proximity to anyone eating anything with nuts as an ingredient can cause severe discomfort and death. This is well proven and fact; passive smoking is only a tool for the anti brigade and has never once been proven to be fact.
[quote][p][bold]nozza17[/bold] wrote: Hey bersushka, who ever complained about the disgusting smell of a mars bar? That fatty you refer to is not discomforting anyone by eating her mars bars, unlike smokers who are typically self centred and expect everyone should just put up with the disgusting trail of smoke and fumes they leave behind them.[/p][/quote]Try to read the posts a little better It was not me referring to overweight people, but our good friend Micky England! He does make a good point, though. Passive smoking is a dubious argument, but the horrible smell of cooking wafting out of take aways makes me sick, the exhaust fumes of HGV's give me a headache, and the abusive noise of today's so-called music give me stomach ache, but who's complaining? Nobody! Yet my private cigarette, in my private car is my business, yet so many busybodies want to poke their noses in. And yes, the smell of a mars bar is disgusting, nay life-threatening to anyone like me who has a total nut allergy, being in very close proximity to anyone eating anything with nuts as an ingredient can cause severe discomfort and death. This is well proven and fact; passive smoking is only a tool for the anti brigade and has never once been proven to be fact. berushka
  • Score: 0

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