Sainsbury's plan for Green Bengal in Bromley Cross rejected

The former Green Bengal in Bromley Cross

The former Green Bengal in Bromley Cross

First published in News The Bolton News: Photograph of the Author by , politics reporter

CONTROVERSIAL plans to transform a former pub into a supermarket have been refused in a shock move by planning bosses.

CW Construction applied to demolish the Green Bengal restaurant in Bromley Cross — formerly The Volunteer Inn — and build a Sainsbury’s with two shops and a car park at the Darwen Road site in November.

In February, the planning committee called on developers to reduce the number of units to create more car parking spaces — fearing the lack of adequate spaces would lead to cars parking on residential roads and endangering road safety.

But speaking at the planning meeting, Andrew Watt, on behalf of CW Construction, said the firm had worked with Bolton Council officers and it had already planned a suitable number of spaces.

He added: “It’s important to make the best of an opportunity like this.”

Officers had recommended the plans be approved, but the application was met by stiff opposition from residents and ward councillors.

Edmund Kilmer, who lives next to the site in Lords Stile Lane, told the committee how he would lose sunlight to his house if the plans were approved.

He added: “I live right next door to the old Volunteer pub and, with what they are planning to do with the development, it means I will have no sunlight at all in my kitchen, bedroom and bathroom all day, every day. All day long I hear banging, banging — what they are doing I have no idea.”

Bromley Cross councillor David Greenhalgh, who is not on the committee, argued that the road was already an accident blackspot around a junction which hundreds of children used on a regular basis.

He said: “We want a development on that site but it it so crucial that we get the right development or it will lead to real, considerable problems with road safety.”

Cllr Norman Critchley moved to reject the proposals, arguing the development would unfairly impact on Mr Kilmer’s home.

He added: “I want a good development, the people of Bromley Cross want a good development, but not at any cost.”

CW Construction now has the chance to appeal the decision or put in a new application.

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10:16am Sat 8 Mar 14

BWFC71 says...

Good!!!

Only problem is that we all know that Sainsbury's will go on fighting for it to get it approved and will take it hgher than Bolton Council and no doubt it will eventually get passed.

If Sainsbury's have any sense they will incorporate the current building as part of any supermarket and if they want any ideas on how all they need to do is see the numerous "Albert Hijn" stores in The Netherlands who mainly use current buildings with extensions so as to keep in appearance of surrounding buildings and keep the architectural history of the building rather than knock it down and build an soul-less tin square box like all modern supermarkets!
Good!!! Only problem is that we all know that Sainsbury's will go on fighting for it to get it approved and will take it hgher than Bolton Council and no doubt it will eventually get passed. If Sainsbury's have any sense they will incorporate the current building as part of any supermarket and if they want any ideas on how all they need to do is see the numerous "Albert Hijn" stores in The Netherlands who mainly use current buildings with extensions so as to keep in appearance of surrounding buildings and keep the architectural history of the building rather than knock it down and build an soul-less tin square box like all modern supermarkets! BWFC71
  • Score: 7

10:41am Sat 8 Mar 14

Changing times says...

We'll done Cllrs you've just ensured a derelict building will continue to attract ASB and worse for many more months and stopped the creation of further jobs and a new amenity.

One thing for sure is you don't reflect the views of everyone in the area.
We'll done Cllrs you've just ensured a derelict building will continue to attract ASB and worse for many more months and stopped the creation of further jobs and a new amenity. One thing for sure is you don't reflect the views of everyone in the area. Changing times
  • Score: -16

11:06am Sat 8 Mar 14

goldie47 says...

no enough brown enevlopes dished out to grease palms...methinks
no enough brown enevlopes dished out to grease palms...methinks goldie47
  • Score: -5

11:09am Sat 8 Mar 14

William2701 says...

Let us hope that this decision made by the Planning Committee is watertight and that if development goes ahead it is after the submission of revised plans by Sainsbury's. If it isn't and Sainsbury's go down the appeal/ legal route then the Committee may have just cost Bolton Council taxpayers a heck of a lot of money.
Let us hope that this decision made by the Planning Committee is watertight and that if development goes ahead it is after the submission of revised plans by Sainsbury's. If it isn't and Sainsbury's go down the appeal/ legal route then the Committee may have just cost Bolton Council taxpayers a heck of a lot of money. William2701
  • Score: 2

11:21am Sat 8 Mar 14

Regulatory Man says...

Excellent decision. I live in Egerton and can say that this was a stupid idea from the outset. That development on a main road very close to railway and school was a disaster waiting to happen. It's a nightmare along there as it is for motorists due to cars parked on the main road and when school kids are out you have to be very aware when driving. Adding to the likely volume of traffic etc. would have been stupid.

For once I applaud Bolton councillors for rejecting this and hope that they continue to reject it.

As for the comment it loses a small number of job opportunities, tough, get them to travel a bit further to work if they want the jobs.

Anyone with eyesight and a brain can see this was wrong from the outset.
Excellent decision. I live in Egerton and can say that this was a stupid idea from the outset. That development on a main road very close to railway and school was a disaster waiting to happen. It's a nightmare along there as it is for motorists due to cars parked on the main road and when school kids are out you have to be very aware when driving. Adding to the likely volume of traffic etc. would have been stupid. For once I applaud Bolton councillors for rejecting this and hope that they continue to reject it. As for the comment it loses a small number of job opportunities, tough, get them to travel a bit further to work if they want the jobs. Anyone with eyesight and a brain can see this was wrong from the outset. Regulatory Man
  • Score: 16

12:25pm Sat 8 Mar 14

RJ5070 says...

This is a good result for Bromley Cross. We don't need more retail sites and the area could be developed far more sympathetically than initially proposed. A few low paid jobs is not exactly a huge incentive and the development itself will create employment enough.

Demolition of such a historic building is not ok just because jobs are needed or commercial enterprise and money making potential takes a higher priority. the area has been ruined with over development already, it's time to conserve some of the little 'character' Bromley Cross has left.
This is a good result for Bromley Cross. We don't need more retail sites and the area could be developed far more sympathetically than initially proposed. A few low paid jobs is not exactly a huge incentive and the development itself will create employment enough. Demolition of such a historic building is not ok just because jobs are needed or commercial enterprise and money making potential takes a higher priority. the area has been ruined with over development already, it's time to conserve some of the little 'character' Bromley Cross has left. RJ5070
  • Score: 17

1:31pm Sat 8 Mar 14

asptec says...

Changing times wrote:
We'll done Cllrs you've just ensured a derelict building will continue to attract ASB and worse for many more months and stopped the creation of further jobs and a new amenity.

One thing for sure is you don't reflect the views of everyone in the area.
I would have thought that neither do you!!
[quote][p][bold]Changing times[/bold] wrote: We'll done Cllrs you've just ensured a derelict building will continue to attract ASB and worse for many more months and stopped the creation of further jobs and a new amenity. One thing for sure is you don't reflect the views of everyone in the area.[/p][/quote]I would have thought that neither do you!! asptec
  • Score: 7

5:04pm Sat 8 Mar 14

Rememberscarborough says...

Surely any commercial development will impact on Mr Kilmer's property and I really can't see anyone wanting to buy any houses that might be built there. Can't see any possible use for this land after that decision.
Surely any commercial development will impact on Mr Kilmer's property and I really can't see anyone wanting to buy any houses that might be built there. Can't see any possible use for this land after that decision. Rememberscarborough
  • Score: 4

9:02am Sun 9 Mar 14

thomas222 says...

There must be a election coming up.
There must be a election coming up. thomas222
  • Score: 3

5:48pm Sun 9 Mar 14

BWFC71 says...

thomas222 wrote:
There must be a election coming up.
Not for the Bromley Cross ward as they only went to the polling booths in 2012 for the local elections! You seem to forget that only a 1/3 of the wards are being voted this year. Bromley Cross is not for another 2 years!

Local elections for Bolton are as follows:
2014 1/3 of seats
2015 1/3 of seats
2016 1/3 of seats
2017 no elections
then the cycle begins again!
[quote][p][bold]thomas222[/bold] wrote: There must be a election coming up.[/p][/quote]Not for the Bromley Cross ward as they only went to the polling booths in 2012 for the local elections! You seem to forget that only a 1/3 of the wards are being voted this year. Bromley Cross is not for another 2 years! Local elections for Bolton are as follows: 2014 1/3 of seats 2015 1/3 of seats 2016 1/3 of seats 2017 no elections then the cycle begins again! BWFC71
  • Score: 0

1:51pm Wed 12 Mar 14

tenaciousp says...

Regulatory Man wrote:
Excellent decision. I live in Egerton and can say that this was a stupid idea from the outset. That development on a main road very close to railway and school was a disaster waiting to happen. It's a nightmare along there as it is for motorists due to cars parked on the main road and when school kids are out you have to be very aware when driving. Adding to the likely volume of traffic etc. would have been stupid.

For once I applaud Bolton councillors for rejecting this and hope that they continue to reject it.

As for the comment it loses a small number of job opportunities, tough, get them to travel a bit further to work if they want the jobs.

Anyone with eyesight and a brain can see this was wrong from the outset.
You live in Egerton - I live over the road from the site in Bromley Cross - I dont see your issue - the Co Op is 8 houses away should the same 'negative' impact not apply to this as well?

Car parked on the main road belong to the houses on the main road - I would be interested to hear your alternative parking solutions.

As far as jobs are concerned minimum wage does not easily cover the cost of public transport you might find - my son works part time at Middlebrook 'a bit further' , if it wasn't for parents giving him a lift or him using a bike he may as well not bother.
[quote][p][bold]Regulatory Man[/bold] wrote: Excellent decision. I live in Egerton and can say that this was a stupid idea from the outset. That development on a main road very close to railway and school was a disaster waiting to happen. It's a nightmare along there as it is for motorists due to cars parked on the main road and when school kids are out you have to be very aware when driving. Adding to the likely volume of traffic etc. would have been stupid. For once I applaud Bolton councillors for rejecting this and hope that they continue to reject it. As for the comment it loses a small number of job opportunities, tough, get them to travel a bit further to work if they want the jobs. Anyone with eyesight and a brain can see this was wrong from the outset.[/p][/quote]You live in Egerton - I live over the road from the site in Bromley Cross - I dont see your issue - the Co Op is 8 houses away should the same 'negative' impact not apply to this as well? Car parked on the main road belong to the houses on the main road - I would be interested to hear your alternative parking solutions. As far as jobs are concerned minimum wage does not easily cover the cost of public transport you might find - my son works part time at Middlebrook 'a bit further' , if it wasn't for parents giving him a lift or him using a bike he may as well not bother. tenaciousp
  • Score: 0

11:03am Sun 16 Mar 14

Bromley res says...

No doubt Sainsburys will fight this, and suspect they will win as we need this area developed, well done councillors you have cost the Bolton residents countless thousands in legal bills pity money couldn't have been spent keeping council services open !
No doubt Sainsburys will fight this, and suspect they will win as we need this area developed, well done councillors you have cost the Bolton residents countless thousands in legal bills pity money couldn't have been spent keeping council services open ! Bromley res
  • Score: -1

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