Town centre cafe Cappuccinos bounces back to get five star hygiene rating

The Bolton News: John Muller, left, with staff from the left, Katie Harrison, Louise Ratcliffe, Jason Gartside, Emma Conchie and Denise Kearns John Muller, left, with staff from the left, Katie Harrison, Louise Ratcliffe, Jason Gartside, Emma Conchie and Denise Kearns

A TOWN centre cafe has bounced back from a damning food inspection by achieving a five star rating — the highest grading.

Cappuccinos, at the Knowsley Street entrance to the Market Place shopping centre, was found to be in need of “major improvement” when inspectors gave it a one-star hygiene rating in December due to issues involving cleaning, hot water and staff training.

But, after the cafe was revisited, inspectors found there were “very good” hygiene standards and safety procedures.

As a result, Cappuccinos has regained a maximum score, having held a five-star rating before last December’s report.

Cappuccinos bosses say they are delighted with the new score and feel that the report carried out in December was not a fair reflection of the cafe’s hygiene standards.

John Muller, managing director of Cappuccinos, said: “I’m delighted to get a five-star rating.

“As a cafe, we intend to maintain as high a standard as possible.

“I thought that the initial report was harsh and unjust — I’ve been in charge of Cappuccinos since 1997, and I’d never been in this situation before. We all took it very personally that we allowed this to happen.

“I didn’t believe for one minute that we deserved a one-star rating, but certain people had to take responsibility and face the music.

“It will never, ever happen again.”

A Bolton Council spokesman added: “Cappuccinos was inspected on March 5 as a result of a revisit request by the business.

“Essentially, revisit requests are carried out as unannounced food hygiene inspections. On the most recent inspection, there was very good compliance with food hygiene and safety procedures and with structural requirements.

“In addition, an appropriate food safety management system had been implemented with suitable staff training in place.

“We are very pleased with the improvements made by the business and trust that these will be maintained to ensure that Cappuccinos retains its Food Hygiene rating of 5 in future.”

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9:58am Wed 19 Mar 14

BWFC71 says...

Like I said in the previous report it only takes an inspector to dislike you to get a bad rating - problem is nowadays the ratings are slanted to be more predominantly paperwork based than on actual cleanliness and hygiene! When the inspection is 70% based on paperwork and face to face interview then you know that problems like this can and do happen!
Like I said in the previous report it only takes an inspector to dislike you to get a bad rating - problem is nowadays the ratings are slanted to be more predominantly paperwork based than on actual cleanliness and hygiene! When the inspection is 70% based on paperwork and face to face interview then you know that problems like this can and do happen! BWFC71
  • Score: 4

10:41am Wed 19 Mar 14

MarkAllRead says...

Hurrah, now they can get back to selling horrifically overpriced coffee to idiots willing to spend that much.
Hurrah, now they can get back to selling horrifically overpriced coffee to idiots willing to spend that much. MarkAllRead
  • Score: 7

10:59am Wed 19 Mar 14

Reebok Rhythm says...

BWFC71 wrote:
Like I said in the previous report it only takes an inspector to dislike you to get a bad rating - problem is nowadays the ratings are slanted to be more predominantly paperwork based than on actual cleanliness and hygiene! When the inspection is 70% based on paperwork and face to face interview then you know that problems like this can and do happen!
Yeah, true. Anyway, congratulations to them although their image was unnecessarily tarnished in the first place so it would seem.

I do believe it's definitely in the interest of the public though to have as much transparency with restaurants/cafeteri
as' hygiene standards and to name and shame those that have bacteria-infested kitchens with vermin feces as we have seen in the last few months.
[quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: Like I said in the previous report it only takes an inspector to dislike you to get a bad rating - problem is nowadays the ratings are slanted to be more predominantly paperwork based than on actual cleanliness and hygiene! When the inspection is 70% based on paperwork and face to face interview then you know that problems like this can and do happen![/p][/quote]Yeah, true. Anyway, congratulations to them although their image was unnecessarily tarnished in the first place so it would seem. I do believe it's definitely in the interest of the public though to have as much transparency with restaurants/cafeteri as' hygiene standards and to name and shame those that have bacteria-infested kitchens with vermin feces as we have seen in the last few months. Reebok Rhythm
  • Score: 12

11:35am Wed 19 Mar 14

boltonchap says...

BWFC71 I could do with your help please. As you may remember from another thread my black Labrador inadvertently gave one of your posts a thumbs down and as a result of your complaint he is now in police custody.
He needs a good lawyer. In fact given the seriousness of the alleged offence he needs the best legal advice money can buy and I love the dog dearly so will pay whatever is needed to get him off.
Given that you:
Are a man of the world
Have a superb command of English grammar and spelling
Speak more languages than you can shake a stick at
Have more degrees than Stephen Hawking
Are level headed
Have a high flying business career most can only dream of
Know everything there is to know about absolutely everything
Are clearly very well balanced and are such a nice fellow to boot
Know all the movers and shakers on the planet
I was wondering if you could recommend a good lawyer for him?
Thanks in advance and kind regards.
BWFC71 I could do with your help please. As you may remember from another thread my black Labrador inadvertently gave one of your posts a thumbs down and as a result of your complaint he is now in police custody. He needs a good lawyer. In fact given the seriousness of the alleged offence he needs the best legal advice money can buy and I love the dog dearly so will pay whatever is needed to get him off. Given that you: Are a man of the world Have a superb command of English grammar and spelling Speak more languages than you can shake a stick at Have more degrees than Stephen Hawking Are level headed Have a high flying business career most can only dream of Know everything there is to know about absolutely everything Are clearly very well balanced and are such a nice fellow to boot Know all the movers and shakers on the planet I was wondering if you could recommend a good lawyer for him? Thanks in advance and kind regards. boltonchap
  • Score: 2

11:37am Wed 19 Mar 14

I, Ludicrous says...

BWFC71 wrote:
Like I said in the previous report it only takes an inspector to dislike you to get a bad rating - problem is nowadays the ratings are slanted to be more predominantly paperwork based than on actual cleanliness and hygiene! When the inspection is 70% based on paperwork and face to face interview then you know that problems like this can and do happen!
I hear what you're saying, but I use the ratings as a guide quite often, especially if ordering food for delivery as I reckon that having some kind of an indication is still better than none.
[quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: Like I said in the previous report it only takes an inspector to dislike you to get a bad rating - problem is nowadays the ratings are slanted to be more predominantly paperwork based than on actual cleanliness and hygiene! When the inspection is 70% based on paperwork and face to face interview then you know that problems like this can and do happen![/p][/quote]I hear what you're saying, but I use the ratings as a guide quite often, especially if ordering food for delivery as I reckon that having some kind of an indication is still better than none. I, Ludicrous
  • Score: 5

11:37am Wed 19 Mar 14

Wolfie190 says...

boltonchap wrote:
BWFC71 I could do with your help please. As you may remember from another thread my black Labrador inadvertently gave one of your posts a thumbs down and as a result of your complaint he is now in police custody.
He needs a good lawyer. In fact given the seriousness of the alleged offence he needs the best legal advice money can buy and I love the dog dearly so will pay whatever is needed to get him off.
Given that you:
Are a man of the world
Have a superb command of English grammar and spelling
Speak more languages than you can shake a stick at
Have more degrees than Stephen Hawking
Are level headed
Have a high flying business career most can only dream of
Know everything there is to know about absolutely everything
Are clearly very well balanced and are such a nice fellow to boot
Know all the movers and shakers on the planet
I was wondering if you could recommend a good lawyer for him?
Thanks in advance and kind regards.
Give him a break he's busy sorting out the Ukraine crisis.
[quote][p][bold]boltonchap[/bold] wrote: BWFC71 I could do with your help please. As you may remember from another thread my black Labrador inadvertently gave one of your posts a thumbs down and as a result of your complaint he is now in police custody. He needs a good lawyer. In fact given the seriousness of the alleged offence he needs the best legal advice money can buy and I love the dog dearly so will pay whatever is needed to get him off. Given that you: Are a man of the world Have a superb command of English grammar and spelling Speak more languages than you can shake a stick at Have more degrees than Stephen Hawking Are level headed Have a high flying business career most can only dream of Know everything there is to know about absolutely everything Are clearly very well balanced and are such a nice fellow to boot Know all the movers and shakers on the planet I was wondering if you could recommend a good lawyer for him? Thanks in advance and kind regards.[/p][/quote]Give him a break he's busy sorting out the Ukraine crisis. Wolfie190
  • Score: 15

11:49am Wed 19 Mar 14

questionairre says...

John Muller Managing Director said;
“I didn’t believe for one minute that we deserved a one-star rating, but certain people had to take responsibility and face the music.

I think that person is you John, as the MD the buck stops with yourself and does not look good to blame others for something that you should have had control of.
John Muller Managing Director said; “I didn’t believe for one minute that we deserved a one-star rating, but certain people had to take responsibility and face the music. I think that person is you John, as the MD the buck stops with yourself and does not look good to blame others for something that you should have had control of. questionairre
  • Score: 16

12:16pm Wed 19 Mar 14

BWFC71 says...

questionairre wrote:
John Muller Managing Director said; “I didn’t believe for one minute that we deserved a one-star rating, but certain people had to take responsibility and face the music. I think that person is you John, as the MD the buck stops with yourself and does not look good to blame others for something that you should have had control of.
But in this instance it looks like the blame lies with the inspector who, for some reason or another, seemed to have a grudge with the owner!

How can a coffee shop go from 1 star rating straight to 5 star rating without additional improvements?
[quote][p][bold]questionairre[/bold] wrote: John Muller Managing Director said; “I didn’t believe for one minute that we deserved a one-star rating, but certain people had to take responsibility and face the music. I think that person is you John, as the MD the buck stops with yourself and does not look good to blame others for something that you should have had control of.[/p][/quote]But in this instance it looks like the blame lies with the inspector who, for some reason or another, seemed to have a grudge with the owner! How can a coffee shop go from 1 star rating straight to 5 star rating without additional improvements? BWFC71
  • Score: -41

12:21pm Wed 19 Mar 14

Barbara44 says...

Well done but it should have been like this in the first place.
Well done but it should have been like this in the first place. Barbara44
  • Score: 4

12:50pm Wed 19 Mar 14

Newonhojeel says...

How on earth is this remotely worthy of appearing on this website? A more pressing matter would be what is going to be done about the increasing amount of dog dirt on our pavements. Maybe streets or areas should be given hygiene ratings depending on how much excrement is deposited there. Walking the streets of Bolton these days is like playing Minesweeper. One false move and before you know it, you've got a kettle of boiling water and a knife, picking the poo out of the treads of your shoes.
How on earth is this remotely worthy of appearing on this website? A more pressing matter would be what is going to be done about the increasing amount of dog dirt on our pavements. Maybe streets or areas should be given hygiene ratings depending on how much excrement is deposited there. Walking the streets of Bolton these days is like playing Minesweeper. One false move and before you know it, you've got a kettle of boiling water and a knife, picking the poo out of the treads of your shoes. Newonhojeel
  • Score: 8

1:24pm Wed 19 Mar 14

lammypie says...

Newonhojeel wrote:
How on earth is this remotely worthy of appearing on this website? A more pressing matter would be what is going to be done about the increasing amount of dog dirt on our pavements. Maybe streets or areas should be given hygiene ratings depending on how much excrement is deposited there. Walking the streets of Bolton these days is like playing Minesweeper. One false move and before you know it, you've got a kettle of boiling water and a knife, picking the poo out of the treads of your shoes.
Exactly- looks like a free advert to me!
[quote][p][bold]Newonhojeel[/bold] wrote: How on earth is this remotely worthy of appearing on this website? A more pressing matter would be what is going to be done about the increasing amount of dog dirt on our pavements. Maybe streets or areas should be given hygiene ratings depending on how much excrement is deposited there. Walking the streets of Bolton these days is like playing Minesweeper. One false move and before you know it, you've got a kettle of boiling water and a knife, picking the poo out of the treads of your shoes.[/p][/quote]Exactly- looks like a free advert to me! lammypie
  • Score: 7

2:05pm Wed 19 Mar 14

thomas222 says...

So naming & shaming does work. Should be law for all food outlets & take away delivery shops to show to the public what standard they are.
So naming & shaming does work. Should be law for all food outlets & take away delivery shops to show to the public what standard they are. thomas222
  • Score: 6

2:13pm Wed 19 Mar 14

Beyond News Forum says...

thomas222 wrote:
So naming & shaming does work. Should be law for all food outlets & take away delivery shops to show to the public what standard they are.
Perhaps the Bolton News can tell us what is going on with these. A number of which are Bolton based.

Number 1 Marker
Bolton Cut Price Bread and Biscuits

Stall A2/A3 Bolton Market Ashburner Street Bolton
BL1 1TQ
Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary
21 November 2013
Number 2 Marker
Chilli's Pizza

113 Market Street Farnworth Bolton
BL4 8EX
Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary
17 February 2014
Number 3 Marker
Curry Centre

68 Egerton Street Farnworth Bolton
BL4 7LE
Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary
10 December 2013
Number 4 Marker
Godfather Pizza

46 Albert Road Farnworth Bolton
BL4 7BB
Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary
15 January 2014
Number 5 Marker
LA Pizza

76 Egerton Street Farnworth Bolton
BL4 7LE
Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary
16 July 2013
Number 6 Marker
Steve & Linda's Cafe

19 Tex Mill Cawdor Street Farnworth Bolton
BL4 7EA
Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary
17 July 2013
Number 7 Marker
Chicago Hut

1 Bolton Road Silsden
BD20 0JY
Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary
04 December 2013
Number 8 Marker
PRM

2-10 Bolton Street LIVERPOOL Merseyside
L3 5LX
Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary
17 January 2014
Number 9 Marker
A & H Mini Market

253-255 Derby Street Bolton
BL3 6LA
Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary
04 July 2013
Number 10 Marker
A Star Chippy

289 Lever Street Bolton
BL3 6PD
Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary
16 December 2013


Number 1 Marker
Bangla Kitchen

294 Wigan Road Bolton
BL3 5QT
Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary
06 August 2013
Number 2 Marker
Bolton Kebab House

148-150 Bradshawgate Bolton
BL2 1BA
Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary
04 July 2013
Number 3 Marker
Halal Butchers

Ashburner Street Market Unit A4 Ashburner Street Bolton
BL1 1TQ
Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary
25 October 2013
Number 4 Marker
Halal Meat and Continental Food

198 Deane Road Bolton
BL3 5DP
Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary
14 November 2013
Number 5 Marker
K2 Chippy Ltd

166 Halliwell Road Bolton
BL1 3QN
Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary
12 February 2014
Number 6 Marker
Kebabish Original

201-203 Derby Street Bolton
BL3 6JT
Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary
15 May 2013
Number 7 Marker
Mecca Halal Butchers

297 Blackburn Road Bolton
BL1 8HB
Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary
20 August 2013
Number 8 Marker
Medina Dairy Bolton Limited

Unit 23 Tonge Bridge Way Bolton
BL2 6BD
Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary
12 February 2014
Number 9 Marker
Quality Halal Meat

162 Deane Road Bolton
BL3 5DL
Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary
26 June 2013
Number 10 Marker
Red 2 Black Snooker Hall

Unit 3 Coe Street Bolton
BL3 6BU
Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary
17 June 2013


Number 1 Marker
Rozan Express

129 Deane Road Bolton
BL3 5AG
Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary
25 September 2013
Number 2 Marker
Taste of China

523 Wigan Road Bolton
BL3 4QN
Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary
14 May 2013
Number 3 Marker
Tasty Chicken

104 Newport Street Bolton
BL3 6AB
Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary
17 December 2013
Number 4 Marker
United Food Store

2-4 St Helens Road Bolton
BL3 3NH
Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary
18 December 2013
Number 5 Marker
Wallworks Greengrocery

Ashburner Street Market Ashburner Street Bolton
BL1 1TQ
Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary
20 November 2013
Number 6 Marker
Wayne Walker Quality Meats

180 Bradshawgate Bolton
BL2 1BG
Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary
28 October 2013
Number 7 Marker
Yan Moon House

118 Montserrat Road Bolton
BL1 5UT
Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary
18 February 2014


Number 1 Marker
Chuffas on Bolton Railway Station

Bolton Interchange Trinity Street Bolton
BL2 1BE
Food hygiene rating is '1': Major improvement necessary
17 February 2014
Number 2 Marker
Abacus

11 The Linkway Horwich Bolton
BL6 6JA
Food hygiene rating is '1': Major improvement necessary
22 January 2014
Number 3 Marker
Albert Off Licence

187b Albert Road Farnworth Bolton
BL4 9HZ
Food hygiene rating is '1': Major improvement necessary
31 July 2013
Number 4 Marker
Angelo's Cafe Bar & Pizzeria

160a Blackburn Road Egerton Bolton
BL7 9SB
Food hygiene rating is '1': Major improvement necessary
11 December 2013
Number 5 Marker
Boyle & Petyt Pre-School

Bromley Crust
450 Darwen Road Bromley Cross Bolton
BL7 9HZ
Food hygiene rating is '1': Major improvement necessary
20 January 2014
Number 7 Marker
Century City

306 Chorley New Road Horwich Bolton
BL6 5PS
Food hygiene rating is '1': Major improvement necessary
19 June 2013
Number 8 Marker
Costcutter

166-168 Campbell Street Farnworth Bolton
BL4 7HW
Food hygiene rating is '1': Major improvement necessary
22 November 2013
Number 9 Marker
Egerton Chippy

247 Blackburn Road Egerton Bolton
BL7 9SN
Food hygiene rating is '1': Major improvement necessary
31 July 2013
Number 10 Marker

Golden Village
22 Manchester Road Kearsley Bolton
BL4 8NZ
[quote][p][bold]thomas222[/bold] wrote: So naming & shaming does work. Should be law for all food outlets & take away delivery shops to show to the public what standard they are.[/p][/quote]Perhaps the Bolton News can tell us what is going on with these. A number of which are Bolton based. Number 1 Marker Bolton Cut Price Bread and Biscuits Stall A2/A3 Bolton Market Ashburner Street Bolton BL1 1TQ Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary 21 November 2013 Number 2 Marker Chilli's Pizza 113 Market Street Farnworth Bolton BL4 8EX Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary 17 February 2014 Number 3 Marker Curry Centre 68 Egerton Street Farnworth Bolton BL4 7LE Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary 10 December 2013 Number 4 Marker Godfather Pizza 46 Albert Road Farnworth Bolton BL4 7BB Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary 15 January 2014 Number 5 Marker LA Pizza 76 Egerton Street Farnworth Bolton BL4 7LE Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary 16 July 2013 Number 6 Marker Steve & Linda's Cafe 19 Tex Mill Cawdor Street Farnworth Bolton BL4 7EA Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary 17 July 2013 Number 7 Marker Chicago Hut 1 Bolton Road Silsden BD20 0JY Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary 04 December 2013 Number 8 Marker PRM 2-10 Bolton Street LIVERPOOL Merseyside L3 5LX Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary 17 January 2014 Number 9 Marker A & H Mini Market 253-255 Derby Street Bolton BL3 6LA Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary 04 July 2013 Number 10 Marker A Star Chippy 289 Lever Street Bolton BL3 6PD Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary 16 December 2013 Number 1 Marker Bangla Kitchen 294 Wigan Road Bolton BL3 5QT Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary 06 August 2013 Number 2 Marker Bolton Kebab House 148-150 Bradshawgate Bolton BL2 1BA Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary 04 July 2013 Number 3 Marker Halal Butchers Ashburner Street Market Unit A4 Ashburner Street Bolton BL1 1TQ Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary 25 October 2013 Number 4 Marker Halal Meat and Continental Food 198 Deane Road Bolton BL3 5DP Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary 14 November 2013 Number 5 Marker K2 Chippy Ltd 166 Halliwell Road Bolton BL1 3QN Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary 12 February 2014 Number 6 Marker Kebabish Original 201-203 Derby Street Bolton BL3 6JT Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary 15 May 2013 Number 7 Marker Mecca Halal Butchers 297 Blackburn Road Bolton BL1 8HB Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary 20 August 2013 Number 8 Marker Medina Dairy Bolton Limited Unit 23 Tonge Bridge Way Bolton BL2 6BD Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary 12 February 2014 Number 9 Marker Quality Halal Meat 162 Deane Road Bolton BL3 5DL Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary 26 June 2013 Number 10 Marker Red 2 Black Snooker Hall Unit 3 Coe Street Bolton BL3 6BU Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary 17 June 2013 Number 1 Marker Rozan Express 129 Deane Road Bolton BL3 5AG Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary 25 September 2013 Number 2 Marker Taste of China 523 Wigan Road Bolton BL3 4QN Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary 14 May 2013 Number 3 Marker Tasty Chicken 104 Newport Street Bolton BL3 6AB Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary 17 December 2013 Number 4 Marker United Food Store 2-4 St Helens Road Bolton BL3 3NH Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary 18 December 2013 Number 5 Marker Wallworks Greengrocery Ashburner Street Market Ashburner Street Bolton BL1 1TQ Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary 20 November 2013 Number 6 Marker Wayne Walker Quality Meats 180 Bradshawgate Bolton BL2 1BG Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary 28 October 2013 Number 7 Marker Yan Moon House 118 Montserrat Road Bolton BL1 5UT Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary 18 February 2014 Number 1 Marker Chuffas on Bolton Railway Station Bolton Interchange Trinity Street Bolton BL2 1BE Food hygiene rating is '1': Major improvement necessary 17 February 2014 Number 2 Marker Abacus 11 The Linkway Horwich Bolton BL6 6JA Food hygiene rating is '1': Major improvement necessary 22 January 2014 Number 3 Marker Albert Off Licence 187b Albert Road Farnworth Bolton BL4 9HZ Food hygiene rating is '1': Major improvement necessary 31 July 2013 Number 4 Marker Angelo's Cafe Bar & Pizzeria 160a Blackburn Road Egerton Bolton BL7 9SB Food hygiene rating is '1': Major improvement necessary 11 December 2013 Number 5 Marker Boyle & Petyt Pre-School Bromley Crust 450 Darwen Road Bromley Cross Bolton BL7 9HZ Food hygiene rating is '1': Major improvement necessary 20 January 2014 Number 7 Marker Century City 306 Chorley New Road Horwich Bolton BL6 5PS Food hygiene rating is '1': Major improvement necessary 19 June 2013 Number 8 Marker Costcutter 166-168 Campbell Street Farnworth Bolton BL4 7HW Food hygiene rating is '1': Major improvement necessary 22 November 2013 Number 9 Marker Egerton Chippy 247 Blackburn Road Egerton Bolton BL7 9SN Food hygiene rating is '1': Major improvement necessary 31 July 2013 Number 10 Marker Golden Village 22 Manchester Road Kearsley Bolton BL4 8NZ Beyond News Forum
  • Score: 3

2:20pm Wed 19 Mar 14

thomas222 says...

Beyond News Forum wrote:
thomas222 wrote: So naming & shaming does work. Should be law for all food outlets & take away delivery shops to show to the public what standard they are.
Perhaps the Bolton News can tell us what is going on with these. A number of which are Bolton based. Number 1 Marker Bolton Cut Price Bread and Biscuits Stall A2/A3 Bolton Market Ashburner Street Bolton BL1 1TQ Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary 21 November 2013 Number 2 Marker Chilli's Pizza 113 Market Street Farnworth Bolton BL4 8EX Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary 17 February 2014 Number 3 Marker Curry Centre 68 Egerton Street Farnworth Bolton BL4 7LE Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary 10 December 2013 Number 4 Marker Godfather Pizza 46 Albert Road Farnworth Bolton BL4 7BB Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary 15 January 2014 Number 5 Marker LA Pizza 76 Egerton Street Farnworth Bolton BL4 7LE Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary 16 July 2013 Number 6 Marker Steve & Linda's Cafe 19 Tex Mill Cawdor Street Farnworth Bolton BL4 7EA Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary 17 July 2013 Number 7 Marker Chicago Hut 1 Bolton Road Silsden BD20 0JY Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary 04 December 2013 Number 8 Marker PRM 2-10 Bolton Street LIVERPOOL Merseyside L3 5LX Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary 17 January 2014 Number 9 Marker A & H Mini Market 253-255 Derby Street Bolton BL3 6LA Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary 04 July 2013 Number 10 Marker A Star Chippy 289 Lever Street Bolton BL3 6PD Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary 16 December 2013 Number 1 Marker Bangla Kitchen 294 Wigan Road Bolton BL3 5QT Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary 06 August 2013 Number 2 Marker Bolton Kebab House 148-150 Bradshawgate Bolton BL2 1BA Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary 04 July 2013 Number 3 Marker Halal Butchers Ashburner Street Market Unit A4 Ashburner Street Bolton BL1 1TQ Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary 25 October 2013 Number 4 Marker Halal Meat and Continental Food 198 Deane Road Bolton BL3 5DP Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary 14 November 2013 Number 5 Marker K2 Chippy Ltd 166 Halliwell Road Bolton BL1 3QN Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary 12 February 2014 Number 6 Marker Kebabish Original 201-203 Derby Street Bolton BL3 6JT Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary 15 May 2013 Number 7 Marker Mecca Halal Butchers 297 Blackburn Road Bolton BL1 8HB Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary 20 August 2013 Number 8 Marker Medina Dairy Bolton Limited Unit 23 Tonge Bridge Way Bolton BL2 6BD Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary 12 February 2014 Number 9 Marker Quality Halal Meat 162 Deane Road Bolton BL3 5DL Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary 26 June 2013 Number 10 Marker Red 2 Black Snooker Hall Unit 3 Coe Street Bolton BL3 6BU Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary 17 June 2013 Number 1 Marker Rozan Express 129 Deane Road Bolton BL3 5AG Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary 25 September 2013 Number 2 Marker Taste of China 523 Wigan Road Bolton BL3 4QN Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary 14 May 2013 Number 3 Marker Tasty Chicken 104 Newport Street Bolton BL3 6AB Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary 17 December 2013 Number 4 Marker United Food Store 2-4 St Helens Road Bolton BL3 3NH Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary 18 December 2013 Number 5 Marker Wallworks Greengrocery Ashburner Street Market Ashburner Street Bolton BL1 1TQ Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary 20 November 2013 Number 6 Marker Wayne Walker Quality Meats 180 Bradshawgate Bolton BL2 1BG Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary 28 October 2013 Number 7 Marker Yan Moon House 118 Montserrat Road Bolton BL1 5UT Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary 18 February 2014 Number 1 Marker Chuffas on Bolton Railway Station Bolton Interchange Trinity Street Bolton BL2 1BE Food hygiene rating is '1': Major improvement necessary 17 February 2014 Number 2 Marker Abacus 11 The Linkway Horwich Bolton BL6 6JA Food hygiene rating is '1': Major improvement necessary 22 January 2014 Number 3 Marker Albert Off Licence 187b Albert Road Farnworth Bolton BL4 9HZ Food hygiene rating is '1': Major improvement necessary 31 July 2013 Number 4 Marker Angelo's Cafe Bar & Pizzeria 160a Blackburn Road Egerton Bolton BL7 9SB Food hygiene rating is '1': Major improvement necessary 11 December 2013 Number 5 Marker Boyle & Petyt Pre-School Bromley Crust 450 Darwen Road Bromley Cross Bolton BL7 9HZ Food hygiene rating is '1': Major improvement necessary 20 January 2014 Number 7 Marker Century City 306 Chorley New Road Horwich Bolton BL6 5PS Food hygiene rating is '1': Major improvement necessary 19 June 2013 Number 8 Marker Costcutter 166-168 Campbell Street Farnworth Bolton BL4 7HW Food hygiene rating is '1': Major improvement necessary 22 November 2013 Number 9 Marker Egerton Chippy 247 Blackburn Road Egerton Bolton BL7 9SN Food hygiene rating is '1': Major improvement necessary 31 July 2013 Number 10 Marker Golden Village 22 Manchester Road Kearsley Bolton BL4 8NZ
Totally agree you. Everyone by law should have to display in full view of the public & any advertising they do what these shops are rated at.
[quote][p][bold]Beyond News Forum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomas222[/bold] wrote: So naming & shaming does work. Should be law for all food outlets & take away delivery shops to show to the public what standard they are.[/p][/quote]Perhaps the Bolton News can tell us what is going on with these. A number of which are Bolton based. Number 1 Marker Bolton Cut Price Bread and Biscuits Stall A2/A3 Bolton Market Ashburner Street Bolton BL1 1TQ Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary 21 November 2013 Number 2 Marker Chilli's Pizza 113 Market Street Farnworth Bolton BL4 8EX Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary 17 February 2014 Number 3 Marker Curry Centre 68 Egerton Street Farnworth Bolton BL4 7LE Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary 10 December 2013 Number 4 Marker Godfather Pizza 46 Albert Road Farnworth Bolton BL4 7BB Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary 15 January 2014 Number 5 Marker LA Pizza 76 Egerton Street Farnworth Bolton BL4 7LE Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary 16 July 2013 Number 6 Marker Steve & Linda's Cafe 19 Tex Mill Cawdor Street Farnworth Bolton BL4 7EA Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary 17 July 2013 Number 7 Marker Chicago Hut 1 Bolton Road Silsden BD20 0JY Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary 04 December 2013 Number 8 Marker PRM 2-10 Bolton Street LIVERPOOL Merseyside L3 5LX Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary 17 January 2014 Number 9 Marker A & H Mini Market 253-255 Derby Street Bolton BL3 6LA Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary 04 July 2013 Number 10 Marker A Star Chippy 289 Lever Street Bolton BL3 6PD Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary 16 December 2013 Number 1 Marker Bangla Kitchen 294 Wigan Road Bolton BL3 5QT Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary 06 August 2013 Number 2 Marker Bolton Kebab House 148-150 Bradshawgate Bolton BL2 1BA Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary 04 July 2013 Number 3 Marker Halal Butchers Ashburner Street Market Unit A4 Ashburner Street Bolton BL1 1TQ Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary 25 October 2013 Number 4 Marker Halal Meat and Continental Food 198 Deane Road Bolton BL3 5DP Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary 14 November 2013 Number 5 Marker K2 Chippy Ltd 166 Halliwell Road Bolton BL1 3QN Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary 12 February 2014 Number 6 Marker Kebabish Original 201-203 Derby Street Bolton BL3 6JT Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary 15 May 2013 Number 7 Marker Mecca Halal Butchers 297 Blackburn Road Bolton BL1 8HB Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary 20 August 2013 Number 8 Marker Medina Dairy Bolton Limited Unit 23 Tonge Bridge Way Bolton BL2 6BD Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary 12 February 2014 Number 9 Marker Quality Halal Meat 162 Deane Road Bolton BL3 5DL Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary 26 June 2013 Number 10 Marker Red 2 Black Snooker Hall Unit 3 Coe Street Bolton BL3 6BU Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary 17 June 2013 Number 1 Marker Rozan Express 129 Deane Road Bolton BL3 5AG Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary 25 September 2013 Number 2 Marker Taste of China 523 Wigan Road Bolton BL3 4QN Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary 14 May 2013 Number 3 Marker Tasty Chicken 104 Newport Street Bolton BL3 6AB Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary 17 December 2013 Number 4 Marker United Food Store 2-4 St Helens Road Bolton BL3 3NH Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary 18 December 2013 Number 5 Marker Wallworks Greengrocery Ashburner Street Market Ashburner Street Bolton BL1 1TQ Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary 20 November 2013 Number 6 Marker Wayne Walker Quality Meats 180 Bradshawgate Bolton BL2 1BG Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary 28 October 2013 Number 7 Marker Yan Moon House 118 Montserrat Road Bolton BL1 5UT Food hygiene rating is '0': Urgent improvement necessary 18 February 2014 Number 1 Marker Chuffas on Bolton Railway Station Bolton Interchange Trinity Street Bolton BL2 1BE Food hygiene rating is '1': Major improvement necessary 17 February 2014 Number 2 Marker Abacus 11 The Linkway Horwich Bolton BL6 6JA Food hygiene rating is '1': Major improvement necessary 22 January 2014 Number 3 Marker Albert Off Licence 187b Albert Road Farnworth Bolton BL4 9HZ Food hygiene rating is '1': Major improvement necessary 31 July 2013 Number 4 Marker Angelo's Cafe Bar & Pizzeria 160a Blackburn Road Egerton Bolton BL7 9SB Food hygiene rating is '1': Major improvement necessary 11 December 2013 Number 5 Marker Boyle & Petyt Pre-School Bromley Crust 450 Darwen Road Bromley Cross Bolton BL7 9HZ Food hygiene rating is '1': Major improvement necessary 20 January 2014 Number 7 Marker Century City 306 Chorley New Road Horwich Bolton BL6 5PS Food hygiene rating is '1': Major improvement necessary 19 June 2013 Number 8 Marker Costcutter 166-168 Campbell Street Farnworth Bolton BL4 7HW Food hygiene rating is '1': Major improvement necessary 22 November 2013 Number 9 Marker Egerton Chippy 247 Blackburn Road Egerton Bolton BL7 9SN Food hygiene rating is '1': Major improvement necessary 31 July 2013 Number 10 Marker Golden Village 22 Manchester Road Kearsley Bolton BL4 8NZ[/p][/quote]Totally agree you. Everyone by law should have to display in full view of the public & any advertising they do what these shops are rated at. thomas222
  • Score: 9

2:36pm Wed 19 Mar 14

bwfc2510 says...

Well done Cappuccinos !!!!!!!s, back where you belong and where you always have been,
Well done Mr Muller and his team for their efforts in getting back on top. Long may it be that way.

To the overzealous inspector.......enou
gh said
Well done Cappuccinos !!!!!!!s, back where you belong and where you always have been, Well done Mr Muller and his team for their efforts in getting back on top. Long may it be that way. To the overzealous inspector.......enou gh said bwfc2510
  • Score: -3

2:51pm Wed 19 Mar 14

mdavies11 says...

It doesn't matter anyway, boiling the water for the coffee will kill any germs
It doesn't matter anyway, boiling the water for the coffee will kill any germs mdavies11
  • Score: -9

9:52pm Wed 19 Mar 14

BWFC71 says...

With regards to the list the Beyond posted.

A lot fo those are to do with Ashburner Street Market and those stalls have now been relocated - therefore those ratings are null and void due to the move! Then you posted a Liverpool one.

I did notice that a lot were based in Farnworth - we all know that the council don't give two hoots about the town so that is definitely no surprise!

But as for making companies how them - don't think so as it is just as easy to find the scores online. Because if we go down that route then schools ought to publish how they fared with the exams and Ofsted on the main doors, All businesses then ought to be rated on how good they are - it becomes very much of a Big Brother situation which then could lead to the introductions of ID cards to be used to rate how good people are etc etc etc
With regards to the list the Beyond posted. A lot fo those are to do with Ashburner Street Market and those stalls have now been relocated - therefore those ratings are null and void due to the move! Then you posted a Liverpool one. I did notice that a lot were based in Farnworth - we all know that the council don't give two hoots about the town so that is definitely no surprise! But as for making companies how them - don't think so as it is just as easy to find the scores online. Because if we go down that route then schools ought to publish how they fared with the exams and Ofsted on the main doors, All businesses then ought to be rated on how good they are - it becomes very much of a Big Brother situation which then could lead to the introductions of ID cards to be used to rate how good people are etc etc etc BWFC71
  • Score: -25

10:21pm Wed 19 Mar 14

thomas222 says...

BWFC71 wrote:
With regards to the list the Beyond posted. A lot fo those are to do with Ashburner Street Market and those stalls have now been relocated - therefore those ratings are null and void due to the move! Then you posted a Liverpool one. I did notice that a lot were based in Farnworth - we all know that the council don't give two hoots about the town so that is definitely no surprise! But as for making companies how them - don't think so as it is just as easy to find the scores online. Because if we go down that route then schools ought to publish how they fared with the exams and Ofsted on the main doors, All businesses then ought to be rated on how good they are - it becomes very much of a Big Brother situation which then could lead to the introductions of ID cards to be used to rate how good people are etc etc etc
Food is different to all your other examples.. Bad food sold to paying customers kills many people & makes many others very ill every day of the week. Nothing like a exam or a Ofsted report. What is so wrong with wanting food that is safe for everyone ?.
[quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: With regards to the list the Beyond posted. A lot fo those are to do with Ashburner Street Market and those stalls have now been relocated - therefore those ratings are null and void due to the move! Then you posted a Liverpool one. I did notice that a lot were based in Farnworth - we all know that the council don't give two hoots about the town so that is definitely no surprise! But as for making companies how them - don't think so as it is just as easy to find the scores online. Because if we go down that route then schools ought to publish how they fared with the exams and Ofsted on the main doors, All businesses then ought to be rated on how good they are - it becomes very much of a Big Brother situation which then could lead to the introductions of ID cards to be used to rate how good people are etc etc etc[/p][/quote]Food is different to all your other examples.. Bad food sold to paying customers kills many people & makes many others very ill every day of the week. Nothing like a exam or a Ofsted report. What is so wrong with wanting food that is safe for everyone ?. thomas222
  • Score: 3

11:12pm Wed 19 Mar 14

BWFC71 says...

thomas222 wrote:
BWFC71 wrote: With regards to the list the Beyond posted. A lot fo those are to do with Ashburner Street Market and those stalls have now been relocated - therefore those ratings are null and void due to the move! Then you posted a Liverpool one. I did notice that a lot were based in Farnworth - we all know that the council don't give two hoots about the town so that is definitely no surprise! But as for making companies how them - don't think so as it is just as easy to find the scores online. Because if we go down that route then schools ought to publish how they fared with the exams and Ofsted on the main doors, All businesses then ought to be rated on how good they are - it becomes very much of a Big Brother situation which then could lead to the introductions of ID cards to be used to rate how good people are etc etc etc
Food is different to all your other examples.. Bad food sold to paying customers kills many people & makes many others very ill every day of the week. Nothing like a exam or a Ofsted report. What is so wrong with wanting food that is safe for everyone ?.
Because the system they are using to give the ratings is badly flawed as 70% of the rating is based on paperwork and face to face interview and not hygiene and cleanliness.

Even so would you expect a Michelin star restaurant to have a rating hanging outside its restaurant, or would you think it just looks tatty? Or hat about McDonalds or BK?

Serious question but how many people in Bolton have died in the last 12 months due to bad food or bad preparation of food? Plus how many people in the UK, as a total, have died in the last 12 months from bad food/bad preparation of food?
[quote][p][bold]thomas222[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: With regards to the list the Beyond posted. A lot fo those are to do with Ashburner Street Market and those stalls have now been relocated - therefore those ratings are null and void due to the move! Then you posted a Liverpool one. I did notice that a lot were based in Farnworth - we all know that the council don't give two hoots about the town so that is definitely no surprise! But as for making companies how them - don't think so as it is just as easy to find the scores online. Because if we go down that route then schools ought to publish how they fared with the exams and Ofsted on the main doors, All businesses then ought to be rated on how good they are - it becomes very much of a Big Brother situation which then could lead to the introductions of ID cards to be used to rate how good people are etc etc etc[/p][/quote]Food is different to all your other examples.. Bad food sold to paying customers kills many people & makes many others very ill every day of the week. Nothing like a exam or a Ofsted report. What is so wrong with wanting food that is safe for everyone ?.[/p][/quote]Because the system they are using to give the ratings is badly flawed as 70% of the rating is based on paperwork and face to face interview and not hygiene and cleanliness. Even so would you expect a Michelin star restaurant to have a rating hanging outside its restaurant, or would you think it just looks tatty? Or hat about McDonalds or BK? Serious question but how many people in Bolton have died in the last 12 months due to bad food or bad preparation of food? Plus how many people in the UK, as a total, have died in the last 12 months from bad food/bad preparation of food? BWFC71
  • Score: -40

9:03am Thu 20 Mar 14

thomas222 says...

BWFC71 wrote:
thomas222 wrote:
BWFC71 wrote: With regards to the list the Beyond posted. A lot fo those are to do with Ashburner Street Market and those stalls have now been relocated - therefore those ratings are null and void due to the move! Then you posted a Liverpool one. I did notice that a lot were based in Farnworth - we all know that the council don't give two hoots about the town so that is definitely no surprise! But as for making companies how them - don't think so as it is just as easy to find the scores online. Because if we go down that route then schools ought to publish how they fared with the exams and Ofsted on the main doors, All businesses then ought to be rated on how good they are - it becomes very much of a Big Brother situation which then could lead to the introductions of ID cards to be used to rate how good people are etc etc etc
Food is different to all your other examples.. Bad food sold to paying customers kills many people & makes many others very ill every day of the week. Nothing like a exam or a Ofsted report. What is so wrong with wanting food that is safe for everyone ?.
Because the system they are using to give the ratings is badly flawed as 70% of the rating is based on paperwork and face to face interview and not hygiene and cleanliness. Even so would you expect a Michelin star restaurant to have a rating hanging outside its restaurant, or would you think it just looks tatty? Or hat about McDonalds or BK? Serious question but how many people in Bolton have died in the last 12 months due to bad food or bad preparation of food? Plus how many people in the UK, as a total, have died in the last 12 months from bad food/bad preparation of food?
According to stats by the food standards agency in 2009 there were 850.000 ill & 500 deaths in the UK though this number is understood to be very low as there are factors that come into play. Its so easy to be clean with food if one cares enough about their paying customers.. it it estimated the numbers are very high.
[quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomas222[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: With regards to the list the Beyond posted. A lot fo those are to do with Ashburner Street Market and those stalls have now been relocated - therefore those ratings are null and void due to the move! Then you posted a Liverpool one. I did notice that a lot were based in Farnworth - we all know that the council don't give two hoots about the town so that is definitely no surprise! But as for making companies how them - don't think so as it is just as easy to find the scores online. Because if we go down that route then schools ought to publish how they fared with the exams and Ofsted on the main doors, All businesses then ought to be rated on how good they are - it becomes very much of a Big Brother situation which then could lead to the introductions of ID cards to be used to rate how good people are etc etc etc[/p][/quote]Food is different to all your other examples.. Bad food sold to paying customers kills many people & makes many others very ill every day of the week. Nothing like a exam or a Ofsted report. What is so wrong with wanting food that is safe for everyone ?.[/p][/quote]Because the system they are using to give the ratings is badly flawed as 70% of the rating is based on paperwork and face to face interview and not hygiene and cleanliness. Even so would you expect a Michelin star restaurant to have a rating hanging outside its restaurant, or would you think it just looks tatty? Or hat about McDonalds or BK? Serious question but how many people in Bolton have died in the last 12 months due to bad food or bad preparation of food? Plus how many people in the UK, as a total, have died in the last 12 months from bad food/bad preparation of food?[/p][/quote]According to stats by the food standards agency in 2009 there were 850.000 ill & 500 deaths in the UK though this number is understood to be very low as there are factors that come into play. Its so easy to be clean with food if one cares enough about their paying customers.. it it estimated the numbers are very high. thomas222
  • Score: 1

1:14pm Thu 20 Mar 14

BWFC71 says...

If you put the 2 figures together to make 850,500 and then put that in term of number of people in the UK (est to be 67million) then the percentage is only 1.3% of the population!

But then look at something else - how many people die in road accidents, which is far higher. Then shouldn't cars have stickers in their windows to say how safe they are?

Or what about the unemployed, shouldn't they have badges to say that they are unemployed and as such costing the Government money - and they is over 7.5% of the population that is unemployed!!!

Or what about hotels, they don't have to show their ratings on the outsides of their buildings and yet many more people die in hotels than die from ill-prepared food!

Ok some of the above could be classed as extreme but it shows that deaths occur in more other instances than just ill-prepared food and yet these other scenarios are not as closely scruitinised!!!
If you put the 2 figures together to make 850,500 and then put that in term of number of people in the UK (est to be 67million) then the percentage is only 1.3% of the population! But then look at something else - how many people die in road accidents, which is far higher. Then shouldn't cars have stickers in their windows to say how safe they are? Or what about the unemployed, shouldn't they have badges to say that they are unemployed and as such costing the Government money - and they is over 7.5% of the population that is unemployed!!! Or what about hotels, they don't have to show their ratings on the outsides of their buildings and yet many more people die in hotels than die from ill-prepared food! Ok some of the above could be classed as extreme but it shows that deaths occur in more other instances than just ill-prepared food and yet these other scenarios are not as closely scruitinised!!! BWFC71
  • Score: -36

1:24pm Thu 20 Mar 14

thomas222 says...

BWFC71 wrote:
If you put the 2 figures together to make 850,500 and then put that in term of number of people in the UK (est to be 67million) then the percentage is only 1.3% of the population! But then look at something else - how many people die in road accidents, which is far higher. Then shouldn't cars have stickers in their windows to say how safe they are? Or what about the unemployed, shouldn't they have badges to say that they are unemployed and as such costing the Government money - and they is over 7.5% of the population that is unemployed!!! Or what about hotels, they don't have to show their ratings on the outsides of their buildings and yet many more people die in hotels than die from ill-prepared food! Ok some of the above could be classed as extreme but it shows that deaths occur in more other instances than just ill-prepared food and yet these other scenarios are not as closely scruitinised!!!
People being ill & dying because someone had no care for someones health after eating their product is not a accident like a road crash & its preventable unlike a accident, thats why its called a accident. Unemployed is also nothing to do with anything regarding bad food practice its a situation people find themselves in for many reasons some willingly some not so. Hotels who do serve food do have the 0-5 hygeine as shops do. Bad food practice is self administered by the vendors.
[quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: If you put the 2 figures together to make 850,500 and then put that in term of number of people in the UK (est to be 67million) then the percentage is only 1.3% of the population! But then look at something else - how many people die in road accidents, which is far higher. Then shouldn't cars have stickers in their windows to say how safe they are? Or what about the unemployed, shouldn't they have badges to say that they are unemployed and as such costing the Government money - and they is over 7.5% of the population that is unemployed!!! Or what about hotels, they don't have to show their ratings on the outsides of their buildings and yet many more people die in hotels than die from ill-prepared food! Ok some of the above could be classed as extreme but it shows that deaths occur in more other instances than just ill-prepared food and yet these other scenarios are not as closely scruitinised!!![/p][/quote]People being ill & dying because someone had no care for someones health after eating their product is not a accident like a road crash & its preventable unlike a accident, thats why its called a accident. Unemployed is also nothing to do with anything regarding bad food practice its a situation people find themselves in for many reasons some willingly some not so. Hotels who do serve food do have the 0-5 hygeine as shops do. Bad food practice is self administered by the vendors. thomas222
  • Score: 0

7:29pm Thu 20 Mar 14

BWFC71 says...

Food illnesses are due to carelessness (or not in some cases) by people not following the guidelines.

Road accidents are due to carelessness (or not in some cases) by people not abiding by the laws of the road. (by both pedestrians and drivers alike)
Food illnesses are due to carelessness (or not in some cases) by people not following the guidelines. Road accidents are due to carelessness (or not in some cases) by people not abiding by the laws of the road. (by both pedestrians and drivers alike) BWFC71
  • Score: -38

10:06am Fri 21 Mar 14

thomas222 says...

BWFC71 wrote:
Food illnesses are due to carelessness (or not in some cases) by people not following the guidelines. Road accidents are due to carelessness (or not in some cases) by people not abiding by the laws of the road. (by both pedestrians and drivers alike)
Killing someone by driving a car with no concern for others gets you a jail sentence.
[quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: Food illnesses are due to carelessness (or not in some cases) by people not following the guidelines. Road accidents are due to carelessness (or not in some cases) by people not abiding by the laws of the road. (by both pedestrians and drivers alike)[/p][/quote]Killing someone by driving a car with no concern for others gets you a jail sentence. thomas222
  • Score: 1

3:50pm Sun 23 Mar 14

Lancashire always says...

Newonhojeel wrote:
How on earth is this remotely worthy of appearing on this website? A more pressing matter would be what is going to be done about the increasing amount of dog dirt on our pavements. Maybe streets or areas should be given hygiene ratings depending on how much excrement is deposited there. Walking the streets of Bolton these days is like playing Minesweeper. One false move and before you know it, you've got a kettle of boiling water and a knife, picking the poo out of the treads of your shoes.
I hope you don't use that knife for anything else !!
[quote][p][bold]Newonhojeel[/bold] wrote: How on earth is this remotely worthy of appearing on this website? A more pressing matter would be what is going to be done about the increasing amount of dog dirt on our pavements. Maybe streets or areas should be given hygiene ratings depending on how much excrement is deposited there. Walking the streets of Bolton these days is like playing Minesweeper. One false move and before you know it, you've got a kettle of boiling water and a knife, picking the poo out of the treads of your shoes.[/p][/quote]I hope you don't use that knife for anything else !! Lancashire always
  • Score: 0

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