Legal advice service helps people involved in civil disputes

The Bolton News: From left, Yazar Khan, Michelle Cardno and Yasmin Qureshi MP From left, Yazar Khan, Michelle Cardno and Yasmin Qureshi MP

A SOCIAL enterprise is fighting the corner for people up and down the country who are involved in civil disputes.

Fightback4Justice, based in Chorley New Road, helps people appeal against government and legal decisions and offers them personal support.

The organisation was founded in January last year by Michelle Cardno, a law graduate who has previously worked for the Citizens Advice Bureau.

It has supported people in Liverpool, Bradford and Peterborough among others and helped more than 1,000 people overturn legal decisions, including clients in Northern Ireland.

It also has more than 10,000 ‘likes’ on Facebook and an online readership of about 100,000.

Miss Cardno visits people with physical and mental disabilities, helping them with a variety of legal matters, from benefit applications to bailiffs to disputes with landlords.

Miss Cardno, who lives in Radcliffe, said: “A lot of people who are involved in disputes don’t know their legal rights and don’t know where to turn. We are here to show people that they’re not alone — there is support out there for them.

“We get hundreds of messages a day from people needing our help — it’s become a bit of a community. I’m really happy with what we’ve achieved so far. There’s a massive need for this kind of service.”

One of the people whose life has been turned around by Fightback4Justice is June Guest.

Miss Guest, aged 52, of Orrell, Wigan, suffers from spinal and knee problems and has osteoarthritis in her feet and has to use a mobility scooter.

When visited by an assessor from the Department for Work and Pensions last year, Miss Guest had her Disability Living Allowance (DLA) removed.

But with the help of Fightback4Justice, Miss Guest was able to win back her DLA.

She said: “When I was told I was having my benefits taken away, I was really down — I even thought of suicide.

“But then I heard about Fightback4Justice through a friend and got in touch with Michelle — she was my only help. I’m grateful to her — not only has she saved my life, she’s helped me to live my life.”

Another supporter of Miss Cardno’s organisation is Yasmin Qureshi, MP for Bolton South East.

Ms Qureshi has held meetings with Miss Cardno and they are hoping to open an advice surgery for people involved in welfare disputes.

Ms Qureshi said: “Michelle’s doing sterling work — she is just brilliant. The disabled seem to get such harsh treatment and that’s why Michelle’s knowledge of the law is needed. People need this kind of help.”

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10:21am Thu 1 May 14

magic dragon says...

Fightback 4justice is a fantastic organisation run by volunteers. It is largely unfunded and Michelle is a saint. If you need help please get in touch with them They helped me win back my rights.
Fightback 4justice is a fantastic organisation run by volunteers. It is largely unfunded and Michelle is a saint. If you need help please get in touch with them They helped me win back my rights. magic dragon
  • Score: 10

11:14am Thu 1 May 14

Wolfie190 says...

Is this a free service ?
Is this a free service ? Wolfie190
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10:16pm Thu 1 May 14

Citizen Cane says...

It's not possible for it to be free - how is it funded. More skimpy BN reporting.
It's not possible for it to be free - how is it funded. More skimpy BN reporting. Citizen Cane
  • Score: 2

12:51am Fri 2 May 14

Le Bison says...

Adamsons Law on twitter promote their debt recovery service every day. Presumably this service is 'no win - no fee' and Adamsons debt recovery service pursue these disabled people for payment. What is surprising is the MP supporting and promoting this service when there are free services like the CAB and Welfare Rights who can help with such cases in the Bolton area. A proper report by BN would be helpful
Adamsons Law on twitter promote their debt recovery service every day. Presumably this service is 'no win - no fee' and Adamsons debt recovery service pursue these disabled people for payment. What is surprising is the MP supporting and promoting this service when there are free services like the CAB and Welfare Rights who can help with such cases in the Bolton area. A proper report by BN would be helpful Le Bison
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9:26am Fri 2 May 14

magic dragon says...

CAB and welfare rights cannot help in all cases as funding is limited. Fightback is a voluntary organisation that receives no funding apart from donations by grateful people they have helped. Adamson's Law will do complex representation on a no win no fee basis. Michelle Cardno has provided this service for more than a year now without recieving a wage. Like everyone else involved, she does it because she feels the sick and disabled are being penalised by the benefit reforms. The MP is supporting this because she is behind their vision 100%.
CAB and welfare rights cannot help in all cases as funding is limited. Fightback is a voluntary organisation that receives no funding apart from donations by grateful people they have helped. Adamson's Law will do complex representation on a no win no fee basis. Michelle Cardno has provided this service for more than a year now without recieving a wage. Like everyone else involved, she does it because she feels the sick and disabled are being penalised by the benefit reforms. The MP is supporting this because she is behind their vision 100%. magic dragon
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4:03pm Fri 2 May 14

Le Bison says...

Sounds great and thanks for the clarification. You do a better job Magic Dragon than the BN!! Its important that people know that they can try to seek fee help rather than have to pay from their winning in a no win no fee scenario
Sounds great and thanks for the clarification. You do a better job Magic Dragon than the BN!! Its important that people know that they can try to seek fee help rather than have to pay from their winning in a no win no fee scenario Le Bison
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4:42pm Fri 2 May 14

ajohn wayne says...

Wolfie190 wrote:
Is this a free service ?
Hi to all who are reviewing comments regarding the newly founded fightback., i am surprised at some of the comments here when all you need to do is contact them direct on 01204221111 and ask a member of fightback themselves about anything related to their organization. Yes some things are free ie benefit advice or how to go about things. I was once a client and they did a home visit as i could not travel..all i paid was a contribution for petrol,the citizens advice and welfare rights were full and could not help me, as they also to my knowledge have reused help with others also, as they now have a cut in their legal aid that pays them for some services they give to public, i am unsure if they still get legal aid or not so you all will find out they will be limited on how far they can go to help you out depending on your circumstances.,i am not putting them down as they offer a great service for others but a lot of people in there voluntar and are not specialised in certain areas, of ones need. Michelle did all the leg work for me at no extra cost. When she did my appeal work for me, yes i agreed a percentage of any backpay i get which was 20per cent then. i believe its 25 per cent now. Which when i did get my backpay and work it out for myself was buttons compared to what i received, so i gave more. Fightback is not classed as a charity like citizens advice or welfare rights, where the government helps them, they do rely on donations from others ,to help them get round to see other people who need them. They also dip into their own pockets, So dont listen to gossip from others, ring them and ask them yourselves. I can assure anyone who contacts them will not be disappointed, and i feel they are worth their weight in gold they did many things they are experts in their own field trust me they do fight the system for and on behalf of others for your legal rights.
[quote][p][bold]Wolfie190[/bold] wrote: Is this a free service ?[/p][/quote]Hi to all who are reviewing comments regarding the newly founded fightback., i am surprised at some of the comments here when all you need to do is contact them direct on 01204221111 and ask a member of fightback themselves about anything related to their organization. Yes some things are free ie benefit advice or how to go about things. I was once a client and they did a home visit as i could not travel..all i paid was a contribution for petrol,the citizens advice and welfare rights were full and could not help me, as they also to my knowledge have reused help with others also, as they now have a cut in their legal aid that pays them for some services they give to public, i am unsure if they still get legal aid or not so you all will find out they will be limited on how far they can go to help you out depending on your circumstances.,i am not putting them down as they offer a great service for others but a lot of people in there voluntar and are not specialised in certain areas, of ones need. Michelle did all the leg work for me at no extra cost. When she did my appeal work for me, yes i agreed a percentage of any backpay i get which was 20per cent then. i believe its 25 per cent now. Which when i did get my backpay and work it out for myself was buttons compared to what i received, so i gave more. Fightback is not classed as a charity like citizens advice or welfare rights, where the government helps them, they do rely on donations from others ,to help them get round to see other people who need them. They also dip into their own pockets, So dont listen to gossip from others, ring them and ask them yourselves. I can assure anyone who contacts them will not be disappointed, and i feel they are worth their weight in gold they did many things they are experts in their own field trust me they do fight the system for and on behalf of others for your legal rights. ajohn wayne
  • Score: 2

5:01pm Fri 2 May 14

ajohn wayne says...

Le Bison wrote:
Adamsons Law on twitter promote their debt recovery service every day. Presumably this service is 'no win - no fee' and Adamsons debt recovery service pursue these disabled people for payment. What is surprising is the MP supporting and promoting this service when there are free services like the CAB and Welfare Rights who can help with such cases in the Bolton area. A proper report by BN would be helpful
Le Bison as you ought to know a newspaper can only do so much and Neil has done a great service for fightback and the mp and all involved. It seems like you lack what fightback actually offer, READ what i have said further on in a reply to wolfie 190 just to add.. the cab and welfare rights are registered charity and receive help from government, but they have just had their legal aid what they get cut. So they wont be able to help everyone. Yes free advice but remember these are volunteers and often have to turn to legal people to pass on the correct information to their client. Fightback and their team are each specialised in their own field of expertise.for many areas which they cover like anything benefit related, appeals,paper work form filling ,fighting landlord issues an even down to a parking ticket. The mp as seen this vision of fightback and i am glad about it because fightback is not a charity nor receive government help, they work extremely hard in and at what they do and comments from you who lack the knowledge of fightback gives worthwhile causes a bad name. If you want too know about fightback they have a forum and yes they rely on donations to help others and of which i dont regret what i give them because what they have done for me is priceless and i would be worse off and i give to help others who like me appreciate all the help they can get with this system we are all in which is changing every two minutes to confuse people.
[quote][p][bold]Le Bison[/bold] wrote: Adamsons Law on twitter promote their debt recovery service every day. Presumably this service is 'no win - no fee' and Adamsons debt recovery service pursue these disabled people for payment. What is surprising is the MP supporting and promoting this service when there are free services like the CAB and Welfare Rights who can help with such cases in the Bolton area. A proper report by BN would be helpful[/p][/quote]Le Bison as you ought to know a newspaper can only do so much and Neil has done a great service for fightback and the mp and all involved. It seems like you lack what fightback actually offer, READ what i have said further on in a reply to wolfie 190 just to add.. the cab and welfare rights are registered charity and receive help from government, but they have just had their legal aid what they get cut. So they wont be able to help everyone. Yes free advice but remember these are volunteers and often have to turn to legal people to pass on the correct information to their client. Fightback and their team are each specialised in their own field of expertise.for many areas which they cover like anything benefit related, appeals,paper work form filling ,fighting landlord issues an even down to a parking ticket. The mp as seen this vision of fightback and i am glad about it because fightback is not a charity nor receive government help, they work extremely hard in and at what they do and comments from you who lack the knowledge of fightback gives worthwhile causes a bad name. If you want too know about fightback they have a forum and yes they rely on donations to help others and of which i dont regret what i give them because what they have done for me is priceless and i would be worse off and i give to help others who like me appreciate all the help they can get with this system we are all in which is changing every two minutes to confuse people. ajohn wayne
  • Score: 2

5:03pm Fri 2 May 14

ajohn wayne says...

Hi to all who are reviewing comments regarding the newly founded fightback., i am surprised at some of the comments here when all you need to do is contact them direct on 01204221111 and ask a member of fightback themselves about anything related to their organization. Yes some things are free ie benefit advice or how to go about things. I was once a client and they did a home visit as i could not travel..all i paid was a contribution for petrol,the citizens advice and welfare rights were full and could not help me, as they also to my knowledge have reused help with others also, as they now have a cut in their legal aid that pays them for some services they give to public, i am unsure if they still get legal aid or not so you all will find out they will be limited on how far they can go to help you out depending on your circumstances.,i am not putting them down as they offer a great service for others but a lot of people in there voluntar and are not specialised in certain areas, of ones need. Michelle did all the leg work for me at no extra cost. When she did my appeal work for me, yes i agreed a percentage of any backpay i get which was 20per cent then. i believe its 25 per cent now. Which when i did get my backpay and work it out for myself was buttons compared to what i received, so i gave more. Fightback is not classed as a charity like citizens advice or welfare rights, where the government helps them, they do rely on donations from others ,to help them get round to see other people who need them. They also dip into their own pockets, So dont listen to gossip from others, ring them and ask them yourselves. I can assure anyone who contacts them will not be disappointed, and i feel they are worth their weight in gold they did many things they are experts in their own field trust me they do fight the system for and on behalf of others for your legal rights.
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Hi to all who are reviewing comments regarding the newly founded fightback., i am surprised at some of the comments here when all you need to do is contact them direct on 01204221111 and ask a member of fightback themselves about anything related to their organization. Yes some things are free ie benefit advice or how to go about things. I was once a client and they did a home visit as i could not travel..all i paid was a contribution for petrol,the citizens advice and welfare rights were full and could not help me, as they also to my knowledge have reused help with others also, as they now have a cut in their legal aid that pays them for some services they give to public, i am unsure if they still get legal aid or not so you all will find out they will be limited on how far they can go to help you out depending on your circumstances.,i am not putting them down as they offer a great service for others but a lot of people in there voluntar and are not specialised in certain areas, of ones need. Michelle did all the leg work for me at no extra cost. When she did my appeal work for me, yes i agreed a percentage of any backpay i get which was 20per cent then. i believe its 25 per cent now. Which when i did get my backpay and work it out for myself was buttons compared to what i received, so i gave more. Fightback is not classed as a charity like citizens advice or welfare rights, where the government helps them, they do rely on donations from others ,to help them get round to see other people who need them. They also dip into their own pockets, So dont listen to gossip from others, ring them and ask them yourselves. I can assure anyone who contacts them will not be disappointed, and i feel they are worth their weight in gold they did many things they are experts in their own field trust me they do fight the system for and on behalf of others for your legal rights. Score: -1 Like Dislike Quote ajohn wayne
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5:13pm Fri 2 May 14

Le Bison says...

" i am surprised at some of the comments here when all you need to do is contact them direct on 01204221111 and ask a member of fightback themselves about anything related to their organization"

I think the idea of having the discussion here is that the public then get to know and share the information and the good work it sounds like they do. This also means the word gets spread rather than ringing them on an individual basis.

",i am not putting them down as they offer a great service for others but a lot of people in there voluntary and are not specialised in certain areas, of ones need."

Both CAB and the Welfare rights service have several staff that specialised in the the areas that Fightback appear to cover. I know this because in recent times i have used each service and not had to pay any of my the money i received after the help they gave me back. Both services were excellent. It was my money that i was entitled to because of my circumstances. In my case i was fortunate enough to receive £5000 back- to pay £1000 (20%) back of money i was entitled to would seem excessive to say the least., I did of course buy a present for the person that helped me and made a small donation that i asked to be put towards a staff xmas party or other such shared benefit. I didnt need to do that but felt it right to.


"Fightback is not classed as a charity like citizens advice or welfare rights, where the government helps them, they do rely on donations from others ,to help them get round to see other people who need them."

This part does concern a little. If they are not a registered charity- but do receive money from customers on a no win no fee- then what are they ? Are they a registered private company instead? I am sure they are doing nothing untoward but these things need to go through the proper channels, declare for tax purposes, have insurance, regulation, quality assurance and all the rest of the things that go with that
" i am surprised at some of the comments here when all you need to do is contact them direct on 01204221111 and ask a member of fightback themselves about anything related to their organization" I think the idea of having the discussion here is that the public then get to know and share the information and the good work it sounds like they do. This also means the word gets spread rather than ringing them on an individual basis. ",i am not putting them down as they offer a great service for others but a lot of people in there voluntary and are not specialised in certain areas, of ones need." Both CAB and the Welfare rights service have several staff that specialised in the the areas that Fightback appear to cover. I know this because in recent times i have used each service and not had to pay any of my the money i received after the help they gave me back. Both services were excellent. It was my money that i was entitled to because of my circumstances. In my case i was fortunate enough to receive £5000 back- to pay £1000 (20%) back of money i was entitled to would seem excessive to say the least., I did of course buy a present for the person that helped me and made a small donation that i asked to be put towards a staff xmas party or other such shared benefit. I didnt need to do that but felt it right to. "Fightback is not classed as a charity like citizens advice or welfare rights, where the government helps them, they do rely on donations from others ,to help them get round to see other people who need them." This part does concern a little. If they are not a registered charity- but do receive money from customers on a no win no fee- then what are they ? Are they a registered private company instead? I am sure they are doing nothing untoward but these things need to go through the proper channels, declare for tax purposes, have insurance, regulation, quality assurance and all the rest of the things that go with that Le Bison
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6:04pm Fri 2 May 14

ajohn wayne says...

Le Bison wrote:
" i am surprised at some of the comments here when all you need to do is contact them direct on 01204221111 and ask a member of fightback themselves about anything related to their organization"

I think the idea of having the discussion here is that the public then get to know and share the information and the good work it sounds like they do. This also means the word gets spread rather than ringing them on an individual basis.

",i am not putting them down as they offer a great service for others but a lot of people in there voluntary and are not specialised in certain areas, of ones need."

Both CAB and the Welfare rights service have several staff that specialised in the the areas that Fightback appear to cover. I know this because in recent times i have used each service and not had to pay any of my the money i received after the help they gave me back. Both services were excellent. It was my money that i was entitled to because of my circumstances. In my case i was fortunate enough to receive £5000 back- to pay £1000 (20%) back of money i was entitled to would seem excessive to say the least., I did of course buy a present for the person that helped me and made a small donation that i asked to be put towards a staff xmas party or other such shared benefit. I didnt need to do that but felt it right to.


"Fightback is not classed as a charity like citizens advice or welfare rights, where the government helps them, they do rely on donations from others ,to help them get round to see other people who need them."

This part does concern a little. If they are not a registered charity- but do receive money from customers on a no win no fee- then what are they ? Are they a registered private company instead? I am sure they are doing nothing untoward but these things need to go through the proper channels, declare for tax purposes, have insurance, regulation, quality assurance and all the rest of the things that go with that
Your comment back is appreciated li bison i am happy you got what you wanted.how long ago was that i am on about the here and now.. and anyone who sets up any business as for 1st year is tax free.. and yes they are layers so yes they would be paying their dues as expected by law.

I am a client of those not part of fightback team.. gosh man why make an issue ... cab and welfare are paid to help you and fightback are not.

How do you think cab and welfare rights started they didn't just plop down wow we are now formed. they started with the war issue From the start, volunteers run the service working from public buildings and private houses. Advisers deal with problems relating to the loss of ration books, homelessness and evacuation. They also help locate missing relatives and prisoners of war. 3 September 1939: War is declared 4 September 1939: The first 200 bureaux open,1942: The number of bureaux peaks at 1,074 and one even operates out of a converted horse box that parks near bombed areas,1950s: Despite the success of Citizens Advice Bureaux, funding from the Ministry of Health is cut after the war, and by 1953 the number of bureaux has halved. The service continues thanks to the support of charitable trusts such as the Nuffield Foundation, Carnegie Trust and the Joseph Rowntree Foundation. So with out these good people it would of flop. If it wasnt for the good hearted people who help fund them they may of gone under, but 1960: Funding from the Government for the national body is restored. In the
1960s: A quarter of enquiries relate to housing and the number of bureaux has reduced from 1,074 to 416.1973: A development grant from the Government is given to the national charity, the National Association of Citizens Advice Bureaux (NACAB), to extend the network. plus in 2002: The service receives a £20 million grant from the Government's Capital Modernisation Fund to provide IT infrastructure to roll out e-government services to CAB clients.
So fightback is small but big hearted as they are struggling on their own to help people who have no where to turn they dont get a wage for their job like cab etc do apart from volunteers. Who give their free service like fightback do they all work for nothing at this moment and are not funded by anyone. I suggest if you want know more you call them yourselves and by the way did you pay your taxes on the money you received back as all eligible income is suppose to be taxed also. If my mathes serves me right it was 17p in pound so guess how much tax you would of had to pay back out of that.. An how rude of you to kinda say "but do receive money from customers on a no win no fee- then what are they ? Are they a registered private company instead? I am sure they are doing nothing untoward but these things need to go through the proper channels, declare for tax purposes, have insurance, regulation, quality assurance and all the rest of the things that go with that"
I feel like your insulting Fightback with this for Gods sack ,... They are a group of professionals and law abiding people serving their time and efforts to help the less fortunate who HAVE NO WHERE TO TURN To i was turned away from cab and welfare rights because they had not repeat NOT anyone available to help me. Glad i had the wisdom to ask around and found FIGHTBACK4JUSTICE the name says it all. So dont question what i say i really do feel like your disrespecting a worthwhile cause trying to climb the ladder to let people know they are there for them if need be, they are not there to take anything away from society they are there to add and hopefully if they do become a charity then they wont need any donations would they! I have been wrongly advise in my visits in past times to cab and when they cant help you they forward you on to a solicitor and thats a FACT.
Adamsons law society are supporting fightback by giving them an office etc for clients to walk in and get help, Michelle Cardno the founder of fightback is llbs honours etc and works really hard she does not clock off she even works from home as i am aware of, as i suspect all those on her team do. I dont wish to go on and have nothing against you but any further questions i suggest you ring up fightback and get an in depth view. I am happy you was helpt and i am not saying i have not been help by cab in past because i have. But i rather go and see the top person not the middle man if you follow. We all have choices in life fightback are giving them a choice and folk who are genuine appreciate and are sincere will help as i do this is an awesome organization well planned and thought out, and to be honest if cab and welfare rights got all their money removed how do you think they would survive.? They dont need any monies cos they get paid. Sorry to go on but i really feel if you have an issue to find out the facts before you comment and try steer folk away from worthwhile causes to help others.
[quote][p][bold]Le Bison[/bold] wrote: " i am surprised at some of the comments here when all you need to do is contact them direct on 01204221111 and ask a member of fightback themselves about anything related to their organization" I think the idea of having the discussion here is that the public then get to know and share the information and the good work it sounds like they do. This also means the word gets spread rather than ringing them on an individual basis. ",i am not putting them down as they offer a great service for others but a lot of people in there voluntary and are not specialised in certain areas, of ones need." Both CAB and the Welfare rights service have several staff that specialised in the the areas that Fightback appear to cover. I know this because in recent times i have used each service and not had to pay any of my the money i received after the help they gave me back. Both services were excellent. It was my money that i was entitled to because of my circumstances. In my case i was fortunate enough to receive £5000 back- to pay £1000 (20%) back of money i was entitled to would seem excessive to say the least., I did of course buy a present for the person that helped me and made a small donation that i asked to be put towards a staff xmas party or other such shared benefit. I didnt need to do that but felt it right to. "Fightback is not classed as a charity like citizens advice or welfare rights, where the government helps them, they do rely on donations from others ,to help them get round to see other people who need them." This part does concern a little. If they are not a registered charity- but do receive money from customers on a no win no fee- then what are they ? Are they a registered private company instead? I am sure they are doing nothing untoward but these things need to go through the proper channels, declare for tax purposes, have insurance, regulation, quality assurance and all the rest of the things that go with that[/p][/quote]Your comment back is appreciated li bison i am happy you got what you wanted.how long ago was that i am on about the here and now.. and anyone who sets up any business as for 1st year is tax free.. and yes they are layers so yes they would be paying their dues as expected by law. I am a client of those not part of fightback team.. gosh man why make an issue ... cab and welfare are paid to help you and fightback are not. How do you think cab and welfare rights started they didn't just plop down wow we are now formed. they started with the war issue From the start, volunteers run the service working from public buildings and private houses. Advisers deal with problems relating to the loss of ration books, homelessness and evacuation. They also help locate missing relatives and prisoners of war. 3 September 1939: War is declared 4 September 1939: The first 200 bureaux open,1942: The number of bureaux peaks at 1,074 and one even operates out of a converted horse box that parks near bombed areas,1950s: Despite the success of Citizens Advice Bureaux, funding from the Ministry of Health is cut after the war, and by 1953 the number of bureaux has halved. The service continues thanks to the support of charitable trusts such as the Nuffield Foundation, Carnegie Trust and the Joseph Rowntree Foundation. So with out these good people it would of flop. If it wasnt for the good hearted people who help fund them they may of gone under, but 1960: Funding from the Government for the national body is restored. In the 1960s: A quarter of enquiries relate to housing and the number of bureaux has reduced from 1,074 to 416.1973: A development grant from the Government is given to the national charity, the National Association of Citizens Advice Bureaux (NACAB), to extend the network. plus in 2002: The service receives a £20 million grant from the Government's Capital Modernisation Fund to provide IT infrastructure to roll out e-government services to CAB clients. So fightback is small but big hearted as they are struggling on their own to help people who have no where to turn they dont get a wage for their job like cab etc do apart from volunteers. Who give their free service like fightback do they all work for nothing at this moment and are not funded by anyone. I suggest if you want know more you call them yourselves and by the way did you pay your taxes on the money you received back as all eligible income is suppose to be taxed also. If my mathes serves me right it was 17p in pound so guess how much tax you would of had to pay back out of that.. An how rude of you to kinda say "but do receive money from customers on a no win no fee- then what are they ? Are they a registered private company instead? I am sure they are doing nothing untoward but these things need to go through the proper channels, declare for tax purposes, have insurance, regulation, quality assurance and all the rest of the things that go with that" I feel like your insulting Fightback with this for Gods sack ,... They are a group of professionals and law abiding people serving their time and efforts to help the less fortunate who HAVE NO WHERE TO TURN To i was turned away from cab and welfare rights because they had not repeat NOT anyone available to help me. Glad i had the wisdom to ask around and found FIGHTBACK4JUSTICE the name says it all. So dont question what i say i really do feel like your disrespecting a worthwhile cause trying to climb the ladder to let people know they are there for them if need be, they are not there to take anything away from society they are there to add and hopefully if they do become a charity then they wont need any donations would they! I have been wrongly advise in my visits in past times to cab and when they cant help you they forward you on to a solicitor and thats a FACT. Adamsons law society are supporting fightback by giving them an office etc for clients to walk in and get help, Michelle Cardno the founder of fightback is llbs honours etc and works really hard she does not clock off she even works from home as i am aware of, as i suspect all those on her team do. I dont wish to go on and have nothing against you but any further questions i suggest you ring up fightback and get an in depth view. I am happy you was helpt and i am not saying i have not been help by cab in past because i have. But i rather go and see the top person not the middle man if you follow. We all have choices in life fightback are giving them a choice and folk who are genuine appreciate and are sincere will help as i do this is an awesome organization well planned and thought out, and to be honest if cab and welfare rights got all their money removed how do you think they would survive.? They dont need any monies cos they get paid. Sorry to go on but i really feel if you have an issue to find out the facts before you comment and try steer folk away from worthwhile causes to help others. ajohn wayne
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6:17pm Fri 2 May 14

ajohn wayne says...

Citizen Cane wrote:
It's not possible for it to be free - how is it funded. More skimpy BN reporting.
No it is not neil did a great job on the mp and also on fightback 4 justice, They so pro bono work.. offer free advice and helping hand read my comments further down, please dont judge a worthwhile cause who is standing up for the disabled and weak. For folk who get ript off by the system it is funded by those who want to see fightback moving forward. None of them receive a wage nor work as hard as they all do for others. They even funded the start themselves out of their own pockets and some have jobs to do besides. I donate to them because the advice and wisdom of these people who are experts in their field and so on. The cab and welfare rights are all charity and government supported.Fightback are neither. How do you think cab started out it was not government supported in the beginning and they get paid a wage apart from volunteers who dont, please check out the fightback forum or call them for the full facts if need be. Once it is up and running as the likes of cab they wont need donations will they. There are many good people behind them like adamson law society who have given them an office an phone line etc an yes they advertise along with fightback etc but i really can not comment on how fightback runs just on my personal experience with them and my knowledge of them, they are here to add to society not too take away
[quote][p][bold]Citizen Cane[/bold] wrote: It's not possible for it to be free - how is it funded. More skimpy BN reporting.[/p][/quote]No it is not neil did a great job on the mp and also on fightback 4 justice, They so pro bono work.. offer free advice and helping hand read my comments further down, please dont judge a worthwhile cause who is standing up for the disabled and weak. For folk who get ript off by the system it is funded by those who want to see fightback moving forward. None of them receive a wage nor work as hard as they all do for others. They even funded the start themselves out of their own pockets and some have jobs to do besides. I donate to them because the advice and wisdom of these people who are experts in their field and so on. The cab and welfare rights are all charity and government supported.Fightback are neither. How do you think cab started out it was not government supported in the beginning and they get paid a wage apart from volunteers who dont, please check out the fightback forum or call them for the full facts if need be. Once it is up and running as the likes of cab they wont need donations will they. There are many good people behind them like adamson law society who have given them an office an phone line etc an yes they advertise along with fightback etc but i really can not comment on how fightback runs just on my personal experience with them and my knowledge of them, they are here to add to society not too take away ajohn wayne
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9:29pm Fri 2 May 14

Le Bison says...

Thank you ajohn wayne - I have learnt form reading your post and understand a lot more. You have also changed my views somewhat. I completely agree its great to see grass roots organisations through the passion and commitment of individuals. Between yourself and Magic Dragon you have really informed me well. I agree having heard all the facts that my original comment was misplaced. Had the article been better written the information would have been there for the public - rather than us having to rely on you and Magic Dragon.

Thinking through all this surely the best solution is for Fightback4Justice to approach the CAB so that both parties can benefit for the greater good of people like us who need their help?
Thank you ajohn wayne - I have learnt form reading your post and understand a lot more. You have also changed my views somewhat. I completely agree its great to see grass roots organisations through the passion and commitment of individuals. Between yourself and Magic Dragon you have really informed me well. I agree having heard all the facts that my original comment was misplaced. Had the article been better written the information would have been there for the public - rather than us having to rely on you and Magic Dragon. Thinking through all this surely the best solution is for Fightback4Justice to approach the CAB so that both parties can benefit for the greater good of people like us who need their help? Le Bison
  • Score: 2

11:20pm Sat 3 May 14

ajohn wayne says...

Le Bison wrote:
Thank you ajohn wayne - I have learnt form reading your post and understand a lot more. You have also changed my views somewhat. I completely agree its great to see grass roots organisations through the passion and commitment of individuals. Between yourself and Magic Dragon you have really informed me well. I agree having heard all the facts that my original comment was misplaced. Had the article been better written the information would have been there for the public - rather than us having to rely on you and Magic Dragon.

Thinking through all this surely the best solution is for Fightback4Justice to approach the CAB so that both parties can benefit for the greater good of people like us who need their help?
I do appreciate Le Bison your recent comment back to me and with thanks for acknowledging your misunderstanding of this whole situation.

In respect of your last comment in relation to cab and fightback joining forces, to my understanding Michelle Cardno who is the founder of fightback, use to work for cab and upon a meeting held with cab something happened as Michelle voiced her opinion and they didn't like that, I dont know the ins and outs of all of it and to be honest if i did i really dont think its my place to say. This i believe is one reason why Fightback came about but the best person to ask this would be Michelle herself to whom can be contacted on the number i have provided beforehand. I am afraid this is all i can say on the matter. Many Thanks for your time and i wish you well in all you do.
[quote][p][bold]Le Bison[/bold] wrote: Thank you ajohn wayne - I have learnt form reading your post and understand a lot more. You have also changed my views somewhat. I completely agree its great to see grass roots organisations through the passion and commitment of individuals. Between yourself and Magic Dragon you have really informed me well. I agree having heard all the facts that my original comment was misplaced. Had the article been better written the information would have been there for the public - rather than us having to rely on you and Magic Dragon. Thinking through all this surely the best solution is for Fightback4Justice to approach the CAB so that both parties can benefit for the greater good of people like us who need their help?[/p][/quote]I do appreciate Le Bison your recent comment back to me and with thanks for acknowledging your misunderstanding of this whole situation. In respect of your last comment in relation to cab and fightback joining forces, to my understanding Michelle Cardno who is the founder of fightback, use to work for cab and upon a meeting held with cab something happened as Michelle voiced her opinion and they didn't like that, I dont know the ins and outs of all of it and to be honest if i did i really dont think its my place to say. This i believe is one reason why Fightback came about but the best person to ask this would be Michelle herself to whom can be contacted on the number i have provided beforehand. I am afraid this is all i can say on the matter. Many Thanks for your time and i wish you well in all you do. ajohn wayne
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5:11pm Tue 6 May 14

boltonfree says...

I wouldn't hold my breath with the cab working with other agencies as they have in the past got work taken off another agency when they were assisting the people of bolton!
I wouldn't hold my breath with the cab working with other agencies as they have in the past got work taken off another agency when they were assisting the people of bolton! boltonfree
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