Bolton Wanderers pulls plug on charity football match starring John Fashanu and Manchester United legends

The Reebok Stadium

John Fashanu

Andy Cole

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Dean Holdsworth

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BOLTON Wanderers have pulled the plug on a charity football match — less than two weeks before it was due to take place at the Reebok.

The decision — sparked by a row between the club and the charity — has left charity bosses “devastated”.

The game, organised by the Hearts and Minds Challenge, was set to take place on May 18.

Former Whites legends John McGinlay and Spanish superstar Ivan Campo — in only his second appearance at the Reebok since he left the club in 2008 — would have been joined on the pitch by former Manchester United stars Paul Scholes, Bryan Robson and Andy Cole.

The charity, which supports children with autism, had booked the Reebok for the game last autumn and had confirmed a host of football stars to appear.

Scholes was due to captain one side, with former England international and TV personality John Fashanu leading out the opposition.

But a row has broken out between the club and the Hearts and Minds team over payment and promotion of the event.

Charity boss Ian Magrath said: “When we first booked the stadium they insisted they would handle the ticket sales and that the cost of renting the ground and staffing the event would come out of those sales.

“They also assured me they would promote the event at home games and in other various ways but none of that happened, so I’m guessing the sales weren’t very good.


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“Three weeks before the game, when I asked why there had been no promotion, they went back on the agreement and demanded all the money up front — it’s an absolute disgrace, I have never worked with such amateurs in my life.”

Wanderers have insisted they extended the payment deadline.

In a statement the club said: “The game between Paul Scholes’ XI and Wimbledon’s Crazy Gang scheduled to take place at the Reebok Stadium has been cancelled.

“Despite the club agreeing to extend its deadline for the payment of contractual monies — fundamental for event equipment, catering, security and safety measures — from the event organisers, none have since been forthcoming.

“As a result, it is with regret that the club are no longer able to facilitate the event.”

But Mr Magrath was out of the country on Friday when he received a text to say the game had been cancelled.

He said: “We predict we have lost at least £10,000 because of this and a lot of players who had kindly agreed to give up their free time have been let down, as well as all the fans.”

Speaking from Nigeria, former Wimbledon and Aston Villa star John Fashanu, who also presented the hit TV show Gladiators, said he was “very disappointed” to hear the match had been scrapped.

Mr Fashanu, who has a son with a similar condition to autism, added: “It is really disappointing, I was looking forward to getting my boots on again for what would have been a great match and a great way to raise the profile of this wonderful charity.

“Let’s hope we can get it sorted for next year.”

Hearts and Minds Challenge said it is now looking at holding the event later in the year or early in 2015.

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7:33am Sat 10 May 14

BOLTON_COLIN says...

Just proving it's all about the money. :-( (Unless I've read it wrong)
Just proving it's all about the money. :-( (Unless I've read it wrong) BOLTON_COLIN
  • Score: 28

8:00am Sat 10 May 14

JustBecause says...

Another shameful chapter in Wanderers book. Maybe, they could have done it for the charity for free, it's about time charity was exactly that.
Another shameful chapter in Wanderers book. Maybe, they could have done it for the charity for free, it's about time charity was exactly that. JustBecause
  • Score: 33

8:11am Sat 10 May 14

Ernagy2 says...

Don't think a Bolton Stadium should be used for a Man U v Wimbledon match anyway (even if a couple of ex Bolton players would be there). International 'all stars v Man U okay - but celebrating a cup final between Man U and Wimbledon?

Though it is poor of the club to withdraw three weeks before the match, I don't think they should have agreed to it in the first place, money or no money.
Don't think a Bolton Stadium should be used for a Man U v Wimbledon match anyway (even if a couple of ex Bolton players would be there). International 'all stars v Man U okay - but celebrating a cup final between Man U and Wimbledon? Though it is poor of the club to withdraw three weeks before the match, I don't think they should have agreed to it in the first place, money or no money. Ernagy2
  • Score: -22

8:18am Sat 10 May 14

MalcM59 says...

Great shame...I hadn't seen or heard anything about this, but would have liked to have gone along to see it.
Sounds like another shambles :-(
Great shame...I hadn't seen or heard anything about this, but would have liked to have gone along to see it. Sounds like another shambles :-( MalcM59
  • Score: 30

8:22am Sat 10 May 14

Comment777 says...

One can only hope that next year this corrupt, avaricious and valueless club is relegated or bankrupted...
One can only hope that next year this corrupt, avaricious and valueless club is relegated or bankrupted... Comment777
  • Score: -27

8:39am Sat 10 May 14

kieth57 says...

Get Gartside out and get this club run professionally. Bolton are becoming a joke with this man at the helm
Get Gartside out and get this club run professionally. Bolton are becoming a joke with this man at the helm kieth57
  • Score: 56

8:49am Sat 10 May 14

NHLUFC says...

Ernagy2 wrote:
Don't think a Bolton Stadium should be used for a Man U v Wimbledon match anyway (even if a couple of ex Bolton players would be there). International 'all stars v Man U okay - but celebrating a cup final between Man U and Wimbledon?

Though it is poor of the club to withdraw three weeks before the match, I don't think they should have agreed to it in the first place, money or no money.
What cup final was that?
[quote][p][bold]Ernagy2[/bold] wrote: Don't think a Bolton Stadium should be used for a Man U v Wimbledon match anyway (even if a couple of ex Bolton players would be there). International 'all stars v Man U okay - but celebrating a cup final between Man U and Wimbledon? Though it is poor of the club to withdraw three weeks before the match, I don't think they should have agreed to it in the first place, money or no money.[/p][/quote]What cup final was that? NHLUFC
  • Score: 22

9:09am Sat 10 May 14

andy_88 says...

Comment777 wrote:
One can only hope that next year this corrupt, avaricious and valueless club is relegated or bankrupted...
Very good idiot so hundreds lose their jobs. anyone that hopes any business closes down and causes the loss of lots of jobs is a ponce.
[quote][p][bold]Comment777[/bold] wrote: One can only hope that next year this corrupt, avaricious and valueless club is relegated or bankrupted...[/p][/quote]Very good idiot so hundreds lose their jobs. anyone that hopes any business closes down and causes the loss of lots of jobs is a ponce. andy_88
  • Score: 23

9:37am Sat 10 May 14

Don't_Waste_My_Time says...

This doesn't surprise me with the tactics of Gartside.. The guy is running the football club into the ground and getting out of it what he can.. He is an asset stripper (always has been) .. It is a well known fact that he doesn't get on with SJMcG. The Guy is a leach and needs to be got rid of before the club stoops any lower than where we are now.
This doesn't surprise me with the tactics of Gartside.. The guy is running the football club into the ground and getting out of it what he can.. He is an asset stripper (always has been) .. It is a well known fact that he doesn't get on with SJMcG. The Guy is a leach and needs to be got rid of before the club stoops any lower than where we are now. Don't_Waste_My_Time
  • Score: 36

9:54am Sat 10 May 14

wsw69 says...

What a balls up!

Is there anyone who actually has any time whatsoever for the smug tool that is Gartside? I've yet to hear or meet any one who is stupid or daft enough own up in doing so.

Get the bloke hoofed out the door with the next waste collection.
What a balls up! Is there anyone who actually has any time whatsoever for the smug tool that is Gartside? I've yet to hear or meet any one who is stupid or daft enough own up in doing so. Get the bloke hoofed out the door with the next waste collection. wsw69
  • Score: 36

10:43am Sat 10 May 14

kieth57 says...

The Bolton News seem to like running Polls so how about running one on should Gartside stay or go?. Go on Bolton News I dare you
The Bolton News seem to like running Polls so how about running one on should Gartside stay or go?. Go on Bolton News I dare you kieth57
  • Score: 42

11:38am Sat 10 May 14

Liamdog says...

No chance !
No chance ! Liamdog
  • Score: 21

11:49am Sat 10 May 14

lv8151 says...

surely a contract was written up
surely a contract was written up lv8151
  • Score: 17

11:51am Sat 10 May 14

Beyond News Forum says...

kieth57 wrote:
The Bolton News seem to like running Polls so how about running one on should Gartside stay or go?. Go on Bolton News I dare you
^^^^^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^
^^^^^^^

Run the poll BN!

Actually we will

http://articlechase.
com/should_gartside_
be_sacked_at_bwfc
[quote][p][bold]kieth57[/bold] wrote: The Bolton News seem to like running Polls so how about running one on should Gartside stay or go?. Go on Bolton News I dare you[/p][/quote]^^^^^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^ ^^^^^^^ Run the poll BN! Actually we will http://articlechase. com/should_gartside_ be_sacked_at_bwfc Beyond News Forum
  • Score: 25

12:23pm Sat 10 May 14

wsw69 says...

kieth57 wrote:
The Bolton News seem to like running Polls so how about running one on should Gartside stay or go?. Go on Bolton News I dare you
He hasn't the balls and everyone knows that.
[quote][p][bold]kieth57[/bold] wrote: The Bolton News seem to like running Polls so how about running one on should Gartside stay or go?. Go on Bolton News I dare you[/p][/quote]He hasn't the balls and everyone knows that. wsw69
  • Score: 19

12:50pm Sat 10 May 14

Beyond News Forum says...

wsw69 wrote:
kieth57 wrote:
The Bolton News seem to like running Polls so how about running one on should Gartside stay or go?. Go on Bolton News I dare you
He hasn't the balls and everyone knows that.
We have Mitre balls - lol so we ask the question. so far 25 yes 1 no.

That is on spec ratio 96%
[quote][p][bold]wsw69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kieth57[/bold] wrote: The Bolton News seem to like running Polls so how about running one on should Gartside stay or go?. Go on Bolton News I dare you[/p][/quote]He hasn't the balls and everyone knows that.[/p][/quote]We have Mitre balls - lol so we ask the question. so far 25 yes 1 no. That is on spec ratio 96% Beyond News Forum
  • Score: 6

1:13pm Sat 10 May 14

M.I.B. says...

I've felt disconnected from the team I grew up supporting since before we got relegated. This is just another nail in the coffin.
I've felt disconnected from the team I grew up supporting since before we got relegated. This is just another nail in the coffin. M.I.B.
  • Score: 6

1:28pm Sat 10 May 14

waynagain says...

Most of the players who would have played are still better than any of the current BWFC squad, so Bolton wouldn't have wanted locals to see that watching football can be entertaining. Have to laugh today when Freedman says he wants eleven players with the attitude of Dann - how about a few players with some footballing talent?
Most of the players who would have played are still better than any of the current BWFC squad, so Bolton wouldn't have wanted locals to see that watching football can be entertaining. Have to laugh today when Freedman says he wants eleven players with the attitude of Dann - how about a few players with some footballing talent? waynagain
  • Score: 8

1:40pm Sat 10 May 14

Comment777 says...

kieth57 wrote:
Get Gartside out and get this club run professionally. Bolton are becoming a joke with this man at the helm
So readers here vote my post down yet vote up the next post which makes the exact same point....
[quote][p][bold]kieth57[/bold] wrote: Get Gartside out and get this club run professionally. Bolton are becoming a joke with this man at the helm[/p][/quote]So readers here vote my post down yet vote up the next post which makes the exact same point.... Comment777
  • Score: -8

1:44pm Sat 10 May 14

Comment777 says...

andy_88 wrote:
Comment777 wrote:
One can only hope that next year this corrupt, avaricious and valueless club is relegated or bankrupted...
Very good idiot so hundreds lose their jobs. anyone that hopes any business closes down and causes the loss of lots of jobs is a ponce.
Following your logic the chairman of BWFC is a 'ponce.'

Anyone who runs a football club the way this one has been run can hope for no other result...
[quote][p][bold]andy_88[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Comment777[/bold] wrote: One can only hope that next year this corrupt, avaricious and valueless club is relegated or bankrupted...[/p][/quote]Very good idiot so hundreds lose their jobs. anyone that hopes any business closes down and causes the loss of lots of jobs is a ponce.[/p][/quote]Following your logic the chairman of BWFC is a 'ponce.' Anyone who runs a football club the way this one has been run can hope for no other result... Comment777
  • Score: -2

3:16pm Sat 10 May 14

dhmicky says...

The club is saying that they haven't been paid contractual monies by a set date if this is the case then they are quite right to cancel the event. The game would of been played in front of a virtually empty stadium anyway so it's probably for the best it's not taking place at the Reebok.
The club is saying that they haven't been paid contractual monies by a set date if this is the case then they are quite right to cancel the event. The game would of been played in front of a virtually empty stadium anyway so it's probably for the best it's not taking place at the Reebok. dhmicky
  • Score: 15

3:56pm Sat 10 May 14

waynagain says...

Calling BWFC amatuers is an insult to amatuers
Calling BWFC amatuers is an insult to amatuers waynagain
  • Score: 3

5:18pm Sat 10 May 14

allan111111 says...

Bolton wanderers profitting from charity stinks
Bolton wanderers profitting from charity stinks allan111111
  • Score: -6

5:46pm Sat 10 May 14

dhmicky says...

allan111111 wrote:
Bolton wanderers profitting from charity stinks
There isn't a club or venue in the country that wouldn't want to cover the operating costs for staging the event. The Charity didn't provide any money when it was due so event is off. Simple As!!!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]allan111111[/bold] wrote: Bolton wanderers profitting from charity stinks[/p][/quote]There isn't a club or venue in the country that wouldn't want to cover the operating costs for staging the event. The Charity didn't provide any money when it was due so event is off. Simple As!!!!!!!! dhmicky
  • Score: 17

7:02pm Sat 10 May 14

mr.mark.c says...

allan111111 wrote:
Bolton wanderers profitting from charity stinks
It is called overheads, all companies have them, do you expect every company in the UK to provide free venues for charity ?
[quote][p][bold]allan111111[/bold] wrote: Bolton wanderers profitting from charity stinks[/p][/quote]It is called overheads, all companies have them, do you expect every company in the UK to provide free venues for charity ? mr.mark.c
  • Score: 14

7:21pm Sat 10 May 14

Cyclone says...

Sadly they will never get back to the premiership. Unlike teams like Burnley.
With Bury forward thinking maybe a local derby in the offing after next season.
Sadly they will never get back to the premiership. Unlike teams like Burnley. With Bury forward thinking maybe a local derby in the offing after next season. Cyclone
  • Score: 1

8:12pm Sat 10 May 14

davroduk says...

mr.mark.c wrote:
allan111111 wrote:
Bolton wanderers profitting from charity stinks
It is called overheads, all companies have them, do you expect every company in the UK to provide free venues for charity ?
I would have thought the opposite way around.
Its called CHARITY !!!!!
Most businesses would gladly contribute their services or venue for free.
Anything to maximise the financial benifit to the CHARITY !!!
I know BWFCare strapped for funds these days. but to pull a stunt like this is unforgivable !!!!! (In my humble opinion)
[quote][p][bold]mr.mark.c[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]allan111111[/bold] wrote: Bolton wanderers profitting from charity stinks[/p][/quote]It is called overheads, all companies have them, do you expect every company in the UK to provide free venues for charity ?[/p][/quote]I would have thought the opposite way around. Its called CHARITY !!!!! Most businesses would gladly contribute their services or venue for free. Anything to maximise the financial benifit to the CHARITY !!! I know BWFCare strapped for funds these days. but to pull a stunt like this is unforgivable !!!!! (In my humble opinion) davroduk
  • Score: -5

8:15pm Sat 10 May 14

mr.mark.c says...

davroduk wrote:
mr.mark.c wrote:
allan111111 wrote:
Bolton wanderers profitting from charity stinks
It is called overheads, all companies have them, do you expect every company in the UK to provide free venues for charity ?
I would have thought the opposite way around.
Its called CHARITY !!!!!
Most businesses would gladly contribute their services or venue for free.
Anything to maximise the financial benifit to the CHARITY !!!
I know BWFCare strapped for funds these days. but to pull a stunt like this is unforgivable !!!!! (In my humble opinion)
And the people that run charities don't get paid ?
[quote][p][bold]davroduk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mr.mark.c[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]allan111111[/bold] wrote: Bolton wanderers profitting from charity stinks[/p][/quote]It is called overheads, all companies have them, do you expect every company in the UK to provide free venues for charity ?[/p][/quote]I would have thought the opposite way around. Its called CHARITY !!!!! Most businesses would gladly contribute their services or venue for free. Anything to maximise the financial benifit to the CHARITY !!! I know BWFCare strapped for funds these days. but to pull a stunt like this is unforgivable !!!!! (In my humble opinion)[/p][/quote]And the people that run charities don't get paid ? mr.mark.c
  • Score: 8

8:23pm Sat 10 May 14

allan111111 says...

mr.mark.c wrote:
davroduk wrote:
mr.mark.c wrote:
allan111111 wrote:
Bolton wanderers profitting from charity stinks
It is called overheads, all companies have them, do you expect every company in the UK to provide free venues for charity ?
I would have thought the opposite way around.
Its called CHARITY !!!!!
Most businesses would gladly contribute their services or venue for free.
Anything to maximise the financial benifit to the CHARITY !!!
I know BWFCare strapped for funds these days. but to pull a stunt like this is unforgivable !!!!! (In my humble opinion)
And the people that run charities don't get paid ?
Most contribute for free thats why its called charity
[quote][p][bold]mr.mark.c[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]davroduk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mr.mark.c[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]allan111111[/bold] wrote: Bolton wanderers profitting from charity stinks[/p][/quote]It is called overheads, all companies have them, do you expect every company in the UK to provide free venues for charity ?[/p][/quote]I would have thought the opposite way around. Its called CHARITY !!!!! Most businesses would gladly contribute their services or venue for free. Anything to maximise the financial benifit to the CHARITY !!! I know BWFCare strapped for funds these days. but to pull a stunt like this is unforgivable !!!!! (In my humble opinion)[/p][/quote]And the people that run charities don't get paid ?[/p][/quote]Most contribute for free thats why its called charity allan111111
  • Score: -5

8:40pm Sat 10 May 14

dhmicky says...

davroduk wrote:
mr.mark.c wrote:
allan111111 wrote:
Bolton wanderers profitting from charity stinks
It is called overheads, all companies have them, do you expect every company in the UK to provide free venues for charity ?
I would have thought the opposite way around.
Its called CHARITY !!!!!
Most businesses would gladly contribute their services or venue for free.
Anything to maximise the financial benifit to the CHARITY !!!
I know BWFCare strapped for funds these days. but to pull a stunt like this is unforgivable !!!!! (In my humble opinion)
Claptrap!!!!!
No stunt has been pulled, who is expected to pay for all the people working at the stadium for the event ie caterers,stewards etc, I'm sure the administrators who may well be paying a visit anytime soon would have a field day !!!!
[quote][p][bold]davroduk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mr.mark.c[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]allan111111[/bold] wrote: Bolton wanderers profitting from charity stinks[/p][/quote]It is called overheads, all companies have them, do you expect every company in the UK to provide free venues for charity ?[/p][/quote]I would have thought the opposite way around. Its called CHARITY !!!!! Most businesses would gladly contribute their services or venue for free. Anything to maximise the financial benifit to the CHARITY !!! I know BWFCare strapped for funds these days. but to pull a stunt like this is unforgivable !!!!! (In my humble opinion)[/p][/quote]Claptrap!!!!! No stunt has been pulled, who is expected to pay for all the people working at the stadium for the event ie caterers,stewards etc, I'm sure the administrators who may well be paying a visit anytime soon would have a field day !!!! dhmicky
  • Score: 11

8:47pm Sat 10 May 14

Beyond News Forum says...

Um a show of hands if anyone saw an advert at the stadium last weekend?

Not me... My guess money or no money the commercial department have as many questions to answer as anybody.

As for the Gartside poll... this isn't just about this recent debacle but the club and the fans long sered torture. I have said it before... Big Sam asked for backing, he got jack. I heard it for myself... I cannot really say how and when but it was before our European adventure. Right Mr Gartside?
Um a show of hands if anyone saw an advert at the stadium last weekend? Not me... My guess money or no money the commercial department have as many questions to answer as anybody. As for the Gartside poll... this isn't just about this recent debacle but the club and the fans long sered torture. I have said it before... Big Sam asked for backing, he got jack. I heard it for myself... I cannot really say how and when but it was before our European adventure. Right Mr Gartside? Beyond News Forum
  • Score: 8

8:58pm Sat 10 May 14

Ernagy2 says...

NHLUFC wrote:
Ernagy2 wrote:
Don't think a Bolton Stadium should be used for a Man U v Wimbledon match anyway (even if a couple of ex Bolton players would be there). International 'all stars v Man U okay - but celebrating a cup final between Man U and Wimbledon?

Though it is poor of the club to withdraw three weeks before the match, I don't think they should have agreed to it in the first place, money or no money.
What cup final was that?
Quite right I got my 'reds' mixed up. Even so I don't think the Macron is the place for Man U v Wimbledon charity match. As I say all star 11 maybe. Before you know it, it would have been Wigan v Preston for charity. Lets hold some dignity
[quote][p][bold]NHLUFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ernagy2[/bold] wrote: Don't think a Bolton Stadium should be used for a Man U v Wimbledon match anyway (even if a couple of ex Bolton players would be there). International 'all stars v Man U okay - but celebrating a cup final between Man U and Wimbledon? Though it is poor of the club to withdraw three weeks before the match, I don't think they should have agreed to it in the first place, money or no money.[/p][/quote]What cup final was that?[/p][/quote]Quite right I got my 'reds' mixed up. Even so I don't think the Macron is the place for Man U v Wimbledon charity match. As I say all star 11 maybe. Before you know it, it would have been Wigan v Preston for charity. Lets hold some dignity Ernagy2
  • Score: -4

10:04pm Sat 10 May 14

longballs r us says...

I'm surprised they wanted to book a small clubs ground in the first place.
I'm surprised they wanted to book a small clubs ground in the first place. longballs r us
  • Score: -1

11:10pm Sat 10 May 14

waynagain says...

Any costs the club incurred when supporting a 'charity event' would be a Tax Writeoff at the end of the year and would actually cost the club nothing,
Any costs the club incurred when supporting a 'charity event' would be a Tax Writeoff at the end of the year and would actually cost the club nothing, waynagain
  • Score: -2

11:48pm Sat 10 May 14

wsw69 says...

davroduk wrote:
mr.mark.c wrote:
allan111111 wrote:
Bolton wanderers profitting from charity stinks
It is called overheads, all companies have them, do you expect every company in the UK to provide free venues for charity ?
I would have thought the opposite way around.
Its called CHARITY !!!!!
Most businesses would gladly contribute their services or venue for free.
Anything to maximise the financial benifit to the CHARITY !!!
I know BWFCare strapped for funds these days. but to pull a stunt like this is unforgivable !!!!! (In my humble opinion)
You are spouting utter 80llox. BWFC are a commercial operation, they ARE NOT the charity. There are overheads involved pertaining to BWFC staging this event, and it appears people are expecting BWFC to foot the costs so the charity can financially benefit.

Get in the real world, and more so, get some business nous about you while you are at it
[quote][p][bold]davroduk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mr.mark.c[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]allan111111[/bold] wrote: Bolton wanderers profitting from charity stinks[/p][/quote]It is called overheads, all companies have them, do you expect every company in the UK to provide free venues for charity ?[/p][/quote]I would have thought the opposite way around. Its called CHARITY !!!!! Most businesses would gladly contribute their services or venue for free. Anything to maximise the financial benifit to the CHARITY !!! I know BWFCare strapped for funds these days. but to pull a stunt like this is unforgivable !!!!! (In my humble opinion)[/p][/quote]You are spouting utter 80llox. BWFC are a commercial operation, they ARE NOT the charity. There are overheads involved pertaining to BWFC staging this event, and it appears people are expecting BWFC to foot the costs so the charity can financially benefit. Get in the real world, and more so, get some business nous about you while you are at it wsw69
  • Score: 7

11:51pm Sat 10 May 14

dhmicky says...

waynagain wrote:
Any costs the club incurred when supporting a 'charity event' would be a Tax Writeoff at the end of the year and would actually cost the club nothing,
Right with it now!!! Listen way it is, charity couldn't come up with cash they said they would provide, So event canceled. The Bolton news couldn't
wait to run this story because they knew they would get these stupid posts on here
[quote][p][bold]waynagain[/bold] wrote: Any costs the club incurred when supporting a 'charity event' would be a Tax Writeoff at the end of the year and would actually cost the club nothing,[/p][/quote]Right with it now!!! Listen way it is, charity couldn't come up with cash they said they would provide, So event canceled. The Bolton news couldn't wait to run this story because they knew they would get these stupid posts on here dhmicky
  • Score: -1

11:56pm Sat 10 May 14

wsw69 says...

waynagain wrote:
Any costs the club incurred when supporting a 'charity event' would be a Tax Writeoff at the end of the year and would actually cost the club nothing,
Yet again more mythical 80llox! Who in their right mind think that businesses can just 'write off' what they feel like against their tax? If that were the case then every god damned business in Britain would pay absolutely zilch in tax.

You really are ill advised, or listening to mythical 8ull5h1t. I suspect both are probably the case.
[quote][p][bold]waynagain[/bold] wrote: Any costs the club incurred when supporting a 'charity event' would be a Tax Writeoff at the end of the year and would actually cost the club nothing,[/p][/quote]Yet again more mythical 80llox! Who in their right mind think that businesses can just 'write off' what they feel like against their tax? If that were the case then every god damned business in Britain would pay absolutely zilch in tax. You really are ill advised, or listening to mythical 8ull5h1t. I suspect both are probably the case. wsw69
  • Score: 6

12:25am Sun 11 May 14

Comment777 says...

dhmicky wrote:
The club is saying that they haven't been paid contractual monies by a set date if this is the case then they are quite right to cancel the event. The game would of been played in front of a virtually empty stadium anyway so it's probably for the best it's not taking place at the Reebok.
Same as always I here...10% down on last year
[quote][p][bold]dhmicky[/bold] wrote: The club is saying that they haven't been paid contractual monies by a set date if this is the case then they are quite right to cancel the event. The game would of been played in front of a virtually empty stadium anyway so it's probably for the best it's not taking place at the Reebok.[/p][/quote]Same as always I here...10% down on last year Comment777
  • Score: -2

12:26am Sun 11 May 14

Comment777 says...

mr.mark.c wrote:
allan111111 wrote:
Bolton wanderers profitting from charity stinks
It is called overheads, all companies have them, do you expect every company in the UK to provide free venues for charity ?
Yes...
[quote][p][bold]mr.mark.c[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]allan111111[/bold] wrote: Bolton wanderers profitting from charity stinks[/p][/quote]It is called overheads, all companies have them, do you expect every company in the UK to provide free venues for charity ?[/p][/quote]Yes... Comment777
  • Score: -6

12:39am Sun 11 May 14

wsw69 says...

Comment777 wrote:
mr.mark.c wrote:
allan111111 wrote:
Bolton wanderers profitting from charity stinks
It is called overheads, all companies have them, do you expect every company in the UK to provide free venues for charity ?
Yes...
Clueless idiot
[quote][p][bold]Comment777[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mr.mark.c[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]allan111111[/bold] wrote: Bolton wanderers profitting from charity stinks[/p][/quote]It is called overheads, all companies have them, do you expect every company in the UK to provide free venues for charity ?[/p][/quote]Yes...[/p][/quote]Clueless idiot wsw69
  • Score: 15

1:01am Sun 11 May 14

MarkAllRead says...

The thing is, it isn't "the club", that you're expecting to give their services for free, it's *people*. It's the bar staff, the caterers, the cleaners, the stewards, the turnstyle operators and so on. BWFC can't insist that these people all turn up and work the day for free. These are real people with real bills to pay.
The thing is, it isn't "the club", that you're expecting to give their services for free, it's *people*. It's the bar staff, the caterers, the cleaners, the stewards, the turnstyle operators and so on. BWFC can't insist that these people all turn up and work the day for free. These are real people with real bills to pay. MarkAllRead
  • Score: 12

1:03am Sun 11 May 14

MarkAllRead says...

And goodness knows how people are making out this is Gartside's fault. Do people think he runs the entire club and personally operates every aspect of it? Gartside probably knew very little about this, it's people in the commercial department that would have been organising it.
And goodness knows how people are making out this is Gartside's fault. Do people think he runs the entire club and personally operates every aspect of it? Gartside probably knew very little about this, it's people in the commercial department that would have been organising it. MarkAllRead
  • Score: 5

11:01am Sun 11 May 14

waynagain says...

Any money donated either by a business or an individual to a 'legally registered charity' is tax deductable - you have to provide proof of the donation IF the IRS come knocking.
Any money donated either by a business or an individual to a 'legally registered charity' is tax deductable - you have to provide proof of the donation IF the IRS come knocking. waynagain
  • Score: -5

11:03am Sun 11 May 14

allan111111 says...

The sad reality is, a charity can recieve as little as 10 percent of potential donations by the time big corporations have skimmed their cut
The sad reality is, a charity can recieve as little as 10 percent of potential donations by the time big corporations have skimmed their cut allan111111
  • Score: 3

2:23pm Sun 11 May 14

wsw69 says...

waynagain wrote:
Any money donated either by a business or an individual to a 'legally registered charity' is tax deductable - you have to provide proof of the donation IF the IRS come knocking.
IRS?????

This is the UK, NOT the USA; thank god. HMRC are the UK's tax authority
[quote][p][bold]waynagain[/bold] wrote: Any money donated either by a business or an individual to a 'legally registered charity' is tax deductable - you have to provide proof of the donation IF the IRS come knocking.[/p][/quote]IRS????? This is the UK, NOT the USA; thank god. HMRC are the UK's tax authority wsw69
  • Score: 14

2:49pm Sun 11 May 14

Ernagy2 says...

MarkAllRead wrote:
And goodness knows how people are making out this is Gartside's fault. Do people think he runs the entire club and personally operates every aspect of it? Gartside probably knew very little about this, it's people in the commercial department that would have been organising it.
The buck stops with him - doesn't matter who in the commercial dept got it wrong, the man at the top is always responsible and has to take the blame. PG runs the organisation. If club doing well, he takes the credit, therefore, if club doing badly he takes the blame.
[quote][p][bold]MarkAllRead[/bold] wrote: And goodness knows how people are making out this is Gartside's fault. Do people think he runs the entire club and personally operates every aspect of it? Gartside probably knew very little about this, it's people in the commercial department that would have been organising it.[/p][/quote]The buck stops with him - doesn't matter who in the commercial dept got it wrong, the man at the top is always responsible and has to take the blame. PG runs the organisation. If club doing well, he takes the credit, therefore, if club doing badly he takes the blame. Ernagy2
  • Score: 8

5:44pm Sun 11 May 14

Bwfctillidie says...

This is a disgrace it's about time Phil Gartside resigns and st
This is a disgrace it's about time Phil Gartside resigns and st Bwfctillidie
  • Score: 3

6:04pm Sun 11 May 14

Reality50 says...

I don't like Gartside but on this issue i support him and the club 100%. The fact is this shady outfit didn't pay the readies despite extending the deadline.
I don't like Gartside but on this issue i support him and the club 100%. The fact is this shady outfit didn't pay the readies despite extending the deadline. Reality50
  • Score: 3

6:27pm Sun 11 May 14

wsw69 says...

Reality50 wrote:
I don't like Gartside but on this issue i support him and the club 100%. The fact is this shady outfit didn't pay the readies despite extending the deadline.
How do you KNOW that they are: 1, A shady outfit and 2. That they haven't paid? Careful what one puts down in print, it could end up being libelous, and then one ends up in the deep 5hite. :-)
[quote][p][bold]Reality50[/bold] wrote: I don't like Gartside but on this issue i support him and the club 100%. The fact is this shady outfit didn't pay the readies despite extending the deadline.[/p][/quote]How do you KNOW that they are: 1, A shady outfit and 2. That they haven't paid? Careful what one puts down in print, it could end up being libelous, and then one ends up in the deep 5hite. :-) wsw69
  • Score: 3

12:15pm Wed 14 May 14

MarkAllRead says...

Ernagy2 wrote:
MarkAllRead wrote:
And goodness knows how people are making out this is Gartside's fault. Do people think he runs the entire club and personally operates every aspect of it? Gartside probably knew very little about this, it's people in the commercial department that would have been organising it.
The buck stops with him - doesn't matter who in the commercial dept got it wrong, the man at the top is always responsible and has to take the blame. PG runs the organisation. If club doing well, he takes the credit, therefore, if club doing badly he takes the blame.
The buck stops with the person responsible. Going any higher is pointless unless the problem is rooted in a management or recruitment error. Let's say this issue came about because some guy in the commercial department didn't understand the required procedure for setting up these events. Would sacking Gartside and replacing him with someone else help to educate the guy in the commercial department? Blaming Gartside is an utterly pointless and stupid thing to do, and shows a hilarious naivety about how any medium-large company is structured and run.
[quote][p][bold]Ernagy2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MarkAllRead[/bold] wrote: And goodness knows how people are making out this is Gartside's fault. Do people think he runs the entire club and personally operates every aspect of it? Gartside probably knew very little about this, it's people in the commercial department that would have been organising it.[/p][/quote]The buck stops with him - doesn't matter who in the commercial dept got it wrong, the man at the top is always responsible and has to take the blame. PG runs the organisation. If club doing well, he takes the credit, therefore, if club doing badly he takes the blame.[/p][/quote]The buck stops with the person responsible. Going any higher is pointless unless the problem is rooted in a management or recruitment error. Let's say this issue came about because some guy in the commercial department didn't understand the required procedure for setting up these events. Would sacking Gartside and replacing him with someone else help to educate the guy in the commercial department? Blaming Gartside is an utterly pointless and stupid thing to do, and shows a hilarious naivety about how any medium-large company is structured and run. MarkAllRead
  • Score: 2

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