Risk warning over deregulation of taxi operators

The Bolton News: Risk warning over deregulation of taxi operators Risk warning over deregulation of taxi operators

GOVERNMENT plans to cut ‘red tape’ for taxi operators in Bolton could put the public at risk, an MP has warned.

Julie Hilling, who represents Bolton West, has spoken out against the Deregulation Bill which is going through Parliament.

If made law, the changes would mean private hire firms could ‘sub contract’ bookings to operators licensed in a different area.

Opponents to the system say customers would be less able to choose a company that they feel is safer and more reliable.

In addition, anyone with an ordinary drivers’ licence would be allowed to drive a private hire car when it is ‘off duty’.

Ms Hilling said there was already too little regulation of the industry, and that further deregulation would not help protect the public.

She said: “We do not have national standards. When the system as a whole is fractured, there are all sorts of ways through it.”

At a meeting in April, Ms Hilling, along with MPs David Crausby and Yasmin Qureshi, joined forces with the Police Crime Commissioner, union GMB and the National Private Hire Association to denounce the plans.

Asif Bali, chairman of the Bolton Private Hire Operators Association, said his organisation currently has an arrangement whereby a call for a cab can be passed on to another company. But he added proposals to run ‘off duty’ private hire cars for personal use could put the public in danger.

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8:40am Mon 12 May 14

Jim271 says...

Its bad enough with the cowboys currently running the taxi companies.

Every East European gangster will be over here undercutting the current operators if this goes through.

You think the crime rate is bad now, this will open the doors,
Its bad enough with the cowboys currently running the taxi companies. Every East European gangster will be over here undercutting the current operators if this goes through. You think the crime rate is bad now, this will open the doors, Jim271
  • Score: 20

8:52am Mon 12 May 14

Donkey Stone says...

There is a need for national Taxi/private Hire laws in the country. Rules vary from council to council and a lot of money is illegaly syphoned off by those councils(especially Bolton) to prop up other services. What a shame Asif Vali doesn't address this. The stolen money should be spent on in-car camera systems that would solve a lot of disputes. Asif always agrees with politicians and I say it again." He has no mandate to speak on behalf of the trade." Lazy journalism by the BN once again.
There is a need for national Taxi/private Hire laws in the country. Rules vary from council to council and a lot of money is illegaly syphoned off by those councils(especially Bolton) to prop up other services. What a shame Asif Vali doesn't address this. The stolen money should be spent on in-car camera systems that would solve a lot of disputes. Asif always agrees with politicians and I say it again." He has no mandate to speak on behalf of the trade." Lazy journalism by the BN once again. Donkey Stone
  • Score: 15

9:13am Mon 12 May 14

oftbewildered2 says...

If I phone 'Speedy Kabs' to pick me up I expect a car with the Speedy Kabs logo on the side to come for me. Otherwise it would be sent away. The yellow label says the insurance is invalid unless booked through an operator - and some cars nowadays do not even display an operator name and phone number. How the heck am I supposed to know if the driver is genuine?
If I phone 'Speedy Kabs' to pick me up I expect a car with the Speedy Kabs logo on the side to come for me. Otherwise it would be sent away. The yellow label says the insurance is invalid unless booked through an operator - and some cars nowadays do not even display an operator name and phone number. How the heck am I supposed to know if the driver is genuine? oftbewildered2
  • Score: 21

10:37am Mon 12 May 14

Don Cowan says...

I believe this would cause overcharging by the taxi/private hire driver who has been passed the out of area job, the company who passed the job on would want their cut from the other company who would pass this "fee" on to the driver and that driver not wishing too lose money would charge the customer extra, the only winner is the taxi operator
I believe this would cause overcharging by the taxi/private hire driver who has been passed the out of area job, the company who passed the job on would want their cut from the other company who would pass this "fee" on to the driver and that driver not wishing too lose money would charge the customer extra, the only winner is the taxi operator Don Cowan
  • Score: 11

11:32am Mon 12 May 14

eatmytruth says...

That is stupid. I agree with oftbewildered2 its not safe and anybody could just sit outside the trainstation picking up random passengers. Kidnappers abducters etc.
Totally unsafe.
That is stupid. I agree with oftbewildered2 its not safe and anybody could just sit outside the trainstation picking up random passengers. Kidnappers abducters etc. Totally unsafe. eatmytruth
  • Score: 7

11:51am Mon 12 May 14

Donkey Stone says...

oftbewildered2 wrote:
If I phone 'Speedy Kabs' to pick me up I expect a car with the Speedy Kabs logo on the side to come for me. Otherwise it would be sent away. The yellow label says the insurance is invalid unless booked through an operator - and some cars nowadays do not even display an operator name and phone number. How the heck am I supposed to know if the driver is genuine?
Yes the yellow label does mention insurance and for the umpteenth time those labels are wrong. The passenger is always insured. It may come as a surprise to you but the council tell lies.
[quote][p][bold]oftbewildered2[/bold] wrote: If I phone 'Speedy Kabs' to pick me up I expect a car with the Speedy Kabs logo on the side to come for me. Otherwise it would be sent away. The yellow label says the insurance is invalid unless booked through an operator - and some cars nowadays do not even display an operator name and phone number. How the heck am I supposed to know if the driver is genuine?[/p][/quote]Yes the yellow label does mention insurance and for the umpteenth time those labels are wrong. The passenger is always insured. It may come as a surprise to you but the council tell lies. Donkey Stone
  • Score: 3

11:54am Mon 12 May 14

Donkey Stone says...

oftbewildered2 wrote:
If I phone 'Speedy Kabs' to pick me up I expect a car with the Speedy Kabs logo on the side to come for me. Otherwise it would be sent away. The yellow label says the insurance is invalid unless booked through an operator - and some cars nowadays do not even display an operator name and phone number. How the heck am I supposed to know if the driver is genuine?
I agree with sending a car away that is from a different company than the one you booked with. A very simple solution.
[quote][p][bold]oftbewildered2[/bold] wrote: If I phone 'Speedy Kabs' to pick me up I expect a car with the Speedy Kabs logo on the side to come for me. Otherwise it would be sent away. The yellow label says the insurance is invalid unless booked through an operator - and some cars nowadays do not even display an operator name and phone number. How the heck am I supposed to know if the driver is genuine?[/p][/quote]I agree with sending a car away that is from a different company than the one you booked with. A very simple solution. Donkey Stone
  • Score: 10

11:59am Mon 12 May 14

Donkey Stone says...

Jim271 wrote:
Its bad enough with the cowboys currently running the taxi companies.

Every East European gangster will be over here undercutting the current operators if this goes through.

You think the crime rate is bad now, this will open the doors,
Too late Jim. A company specialising in importing Eastern European drivers has been trading for years. Many local authorities bend over backwards to accomodate them and they get a lot of advantages.
[quote][p][bold]Jim271[/bold] wrote: Its bad enough with the cowboys currently running the taxi companies. Every East European gangster will be over here undercutting the current operators if this goes through. You think the crime rate is bad now, this will open the doors,[/p][/quote]Too late Jim. A company specialising in importing Eastern European drivers has been trading for years. Many local authorities bend over backwards to accomodate them and they get a lot of advantages. Donkey Stone
  • Score: 8

1:14pm Mon 12 May 14

hal pel says...

This deregulation will no doubt present even more opportunities for corrupt taxi operators to avoid paying their dues. It's all well and good having a pop at Gary Barlow in light of his recent tax avoidance scandal, but as we all know, taxi drivers have been "cooking the books" for years. Claiming to work under sixteen hours a week, while working seventy hours and paying virtually no income tax is a standard norm in the private hire industry. Who are the real criminals, Gary Barlow, who was no doubt badly advised, or private hire drivers who deliberately evade paying tax?
This deregulation will no doubt present even more opportunities for corrupt taxi operators to avoid paying their dues. It's all well and good having a pop at Gary Barlow in light of his recent tax avoidance scandal, but as we all know, taxi drivers have been "cooking the books" for years. Claiming to work under sixteen hours a week, while working seventy hours and paying virtually no income tax is a standard norm in the private hire industry. Who are the real criminals, Gary Barlow, who was no doubt badly advised, or private hire drivers who deliberately evade paying tax? hal pel
  • Score: 7

1:54pm Mon 12 May 14

Donkey Stone says...

hal pel wrote:
This deregulation will no doubt present even more opportunities for corrupt taxi operators to avoid paying their dues. It's all well and good having a pop at Gary Barlow in light of his recent tax avoidance scandal, but as we all know, taxi drivers have been "cooking the books" for years. Claiming to work under sixteen hours a week, while working seventy hours and paying virtually no income tax is a standard norm in the private hire industry. Who are the real criminals, Gary Barlow, who was no doubt badly advised, or private hire drivers who deliberately evade paying tax?
I agree with what you have to say but please don't portray Gary Barlow as an innocent victim.
[quote][p][bold]hal pel[/bold] wrote: This deregulation will no doubt present even more opportunities for corrupt taxi operators to avoid paying their dues. It's all well and good having a pop at Gary Barlow in light of his recent tax avoidance scandal, but as we all know, taxi drivers have been "cooking the books" for years. Claiming to work under sixteen hours a week, while working seventy hours and paying virtually no income tax is a standard norm in the private hire industry. Who are the real criminals, Gary Barlow, who was no doubt badly advised, or private hire drivers who deliberately evade paying tax?[/p][/quote]I agree with what you have to say but please don't portray Gary Barlow as an innocent victim. Donkey Stone
  • Score: 5

2:31pm Mon 12 May 14

hal pel says...

Donkey Stone wrote:
hal pel wrote:
This deregulation will no doubt present even more opportunities for corrupt taxi operators to avoid paying their dues. It's all well and good having a pop at Gary Barlow in light of his recent tax avoidance scandal, but as we all know, taxi drivers have been "cooking the books" for years. Claiming to work under sixteen hours a week, while working seventy hours and paying virtually no income tax is a standard norm in the private hire industry. Who are the real criminals, Gary Barlow, who was no doubt badly advised, or private hire drivers who deliberately evade paying tax?
I agree with what you have to say but please don't portray Gary Barlow as an innocent victim.
You're quite right. I was using Barlow as an example, but to be fair he's hardly Al Capone.
[quote][p][bold]Donkey Stone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hal pel[/bold] wrote: This deregulation will no doubt present even more opportunities for corrupt taxi operators to avoid paying their dues. It's all well and good having a pop at Gary Barlow in light of his recent tax avoidance scandal, but as we all know, taxi drivers have been "cooking the books" for years. Claiming to work under sixteen hours a week, while working seventy hours and paying virtually no income tax is a standard norm in the private hire industry. Who are the real criminals, Gary Barlow, who was no doubt badly advised, or private hire drivers who deliberately evade paying tax?[/p][/quote]I agree with what you have to say but please don't portray Gary Barlow as an innocent victim.[/p][/quote]You're quite right. I was using Barlow as an example, but to be fair he's hardly Al Capone. hal pel
  • Score: 5

3:01pm Mon 12 May 14

mr.mark.c says...

eatmytruth wrote:
That is stupid. I agree with oftbewildered2 its not safe and anybody could just sit outside the trainstation picking up random passengers. Kidnappers abducters etc.
Totally unsafe.
They can now, do you seriously think a law will change things ?
[quote][p][bold]eatmytruth[/bold] wrote: That is stupid. I agree with oftbewildered2 its not safe and anybody could just sit outside the trainstation picking up random passengers. Kidnappers abducters etc. Totally unsafe.[/p][/quote]They can now, do you seriously think a law will change things ? mr.mark.c
  • Score: 3

3:18pm Mon 12 May 14

Jim271 says...

hal pel wrote:
Donkey Stone wrote:
hal pel wrote:
This deregulation will no doubt present even more opportunities for corrupt taxi operators to avoid paying their dues. It's all well and good having a pop at Gary Barlow in light of his recent tax avoidance scandal, but as we all know, taxi drivers have been "cooking the books" for years. Claiming to work under sixteen hours a week, while working seventy hours and paying virtually no income tax is a standard norm in the private hire industry. Who are the real criminals, Gary Barlow, who was no doubt badly advised, or private hire drivers who deliberately evade paying tax?
I agree with what you have to say but please don't portray Gary Barlow as an innocent victim.
You're quite right. I was using Barlow as an example, but to be fair he's hardly Al Capone.
He not even Robbie Williams,lol
[quote][p][bold]hal pel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Donkey Stone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hal pel[/bold] wrote: This deregulation will no doubt present even more opportunities for corrupt taxi operators to avoid paying their dues. It's all well and good having a pop at Gary Barlow in light of his recent tax avoidance scandal, but as we all know, taxi drivers have been "cooking the books" for years. Claiming to work under sixteen hours a week, while working seventy hours and paying virtually no income tax is a standard norm in the private hire industry. Who are the real criminals, Gary Barlow, who was no doubt badly advised, or private hire drivers who deliberately evade paying tax?[/p][/quote]I agree with what you have to say but please don't portray Gary Barlow as an innocent victim.[/p][/quote]You're quite right. I was using Barlow as an example, but to be fair he's hardly Al Capone.[/p][/quote]He not even Robbie Williams,lol Jim271
  • Score: 3

5:34pm Mon 12 May 14

Home is where the heart is says...

1/.The only people using buses these days are students,people on benefits and pensioners. All with free bus passes.
It is now cheaper to catch a taxi than to get the bus to some locations.
How can this be right?Bus fares should be HALF what a taxi cost then maybe the working paying public can actually afford to use them!

2/Bolton council have dished out over 2,500 cab licences ,that means about one in ten people in Bolton have one.Too many cooks spoil the broth as they say and this over subscribing has cut the living wage for most taxi drivers to near(or over) the poverty line.This cannot be good for anyone .Many cars are not fit for the road and some drivers spend far to many hours behind the wheel without proper rest.

Solution;
Cut the number of licences down to 500-800.
No vehicle over Severn years old allowed with half yearly M.O.T test on all vehicles over three year old.
Full vetting of drivers before licence given .
Limit to working hours(per day).

OK,this may push the cost up a bit but it's better and safer than the madness that may ensue with a free for all.
1/.The only people using buses these days are students,people on benefits and pensioners. All with free bus passes. It is now cheaper to catch a taxi than to get the bus to some locations. How can this be right?Bus fares should be HALF what a taxi cost then maybe the working paying public can actually afford to use them! 2/Bolton council have dished out over 2,500 cab licences ,that means about one in ten people in Bolton have one.Too many cooks spoil the broth as they say and this over subscribing has cut the living wage for most taxi drivers to near(or over) the poverty line.This cannot be good for anyone .Many cars are not fit for the road and some drivers spend far to many hours behind the wheel without proper rest. Solution; Cut the number of licences down to 500-800. No vehicle over Severn years old allowed with half yearly M.O.T test on all vehicles over three year old. Full vetting of drivers before licence given . Limit to working hours(per day). OK,this may push the cost up a bit but it's better and safer than the madness that may ensue with a free for all. Home is where the heart is
  • Score: 1

5:40pm Mon 12 May 14

Home is where the heart is says...

1/.The only people using buses these days are students,people on benefits and pensioners. All with free bus passes.
It is now cheaper to catch a taxi than to get the bus to some locations.
How can this be right?Bus fares should be HALF what a taxi cost then maybe the working paying public can actually afford to use them!

2/Bolton council have dished out over 2,500 cab licences ,that means about one in ten people in Bolton have one.Too many cooks spoil the broth as they say and this over subscribing has cut the living wage for most taxi drivers to near(or over) the poverty line.This cannot be good for anyone .Many cars are not fit for the road and some drivers spend far to many hours behind the wheel without proper rest.

Solution;
Cut the number of licences down to 500-800.
No vehicle over Severn years old allowed with half yearly M.O.T test on all vehicles over three year old.
Full vetting of drivers before licence given .
Limit to working hours(per day).Same as HGV drivers.

OK,this may push the cost up a bit but it's better and safer than the madness that may ensue with a free for all.
1/.The only people using buses these days are students,people on benefits and pensioners. All with free bus passes. It is now cheaper to catch a taxi than to get the bus to some locations. How can this be right?Bus fares should be HALF what a taxi cost then maybe the working paying public can actually afford to use them! 2/Bolton council have dished out over 2,500 cab licences ,that means about one in ten people in Bolton have one.Too many cooks spoil the broth as they say and this over subscribing has cut the living wage for most taxi drivers to near(or over) the poverty line.This cannot be good for anyone .Many cars are not fit for the road and some drivers spend far to many hours behind the wheel without proper rest. Solution; Cut the number of licences down to 500-800. No vehicle over Severn years old allowed with half yearly M.O.T test on all vehicles over three year old. Full vetting of drivers before licence given . Limit to working hours(per day).Same as HGV drivers. OK,this may push the cost up a bit but it's better and safer than the madness that may ensue with a free for all. Home is where the heart is
  • Score: 0

5:42pm Mon 12 May 14

Home is where the heart is says...

Ooops...
Ooops... Home is where the heart is
  • Score: -2

5:48pm Mon 12 May 14

hal pel says...

Home is where the heart is wrote:
1/.The only people using buses these days are students,people on benefits and pensioners. All with free bus passes.
It is now cheaper to catch a taxi than to get the bus to some locations.
How can this be right?Bus fares should be HALF what a taxi cost then maybe the working paying public can actually afford to use them!

2/Bolton council have dished out over 2,500 cab licences ,that means about one in ten people in Bolton have one.Too many cooks spoil the broth as they say and this over subscribing has cut the living wage for most taxi drivers to near(or over) the poverty line.This cannot be good for anyone .Many cars are not fit for the road and some drivers spend far to many hours behind the wheel without proper rest.

Solution;
Cut the number of licences down to 500-800.
No vehicle over Severn years old allowed with half yearly M.O.T test on all vehicles over three year old.
Full vetting of drivers before licence given .
Limit to working hours(per day).

OK,this may push the cost up a bit but it's better and safer than the madness that may ensue with a free for all.
All cars over Three years old have to have an M.O.T, don't they?
[quote][p][bold]Home is where the heart is[/bold] wrote: 1/.The only people using buses these days are students,people on benefits and pensioners. All with free bus passes. It is now cheaper to catch a taxi than to get the bus to some locations. How can this be right?Bus fares should be HALF what a taxi cost then maybe the working paying public can actually afford to use them! 2/Bolton council have dished out over 2,500 cab licences ,that means about one in ten people in Bolton have one.Too many cooks spoil the broth as they say and this over subscribing has cut the living wage for most taxi drivers to near(or over) the poverty line.This cannot be good for anyone .Many cars are not fit for the road and some drivers spend far to many hours behind the wheel without proper rest. Solution; Cut the number of licences down to 500-800. No vehicle over Severn years old allowed with half yearly M.O.T test on all vehicles over three year old. Full vetting of drivers before licence given . Limit to working hours(per day). OK,this may push the cost up a bit but it's better and safer than the madness that may ensue with a free for all.[/p][/quote]All cars over Three years old have to have an M.O.T, don't they? hal pel
  • Score: 2

5:55pm Mon 12 May 14

Home is where the heart is says...

hal pel wrote:
Home is where the heart is wrote:
1/.The only people using buses these days are students,people on benefits and pensioners. All with free bus passes.
It is now cheaper to catch a taxi than to get the bus to some locations.
How can this be right?Bus fares should be HALF what a taxi cost then maybe the working paying public can actually afford to use them!

2/Bolton council have dished out over 2,500 cab licences ,that means about one in ten people in Bolton have one.Too many cooks spoil the broth as they say and this over subscribing has cut the living wage for most taxi drivers to near(or over) the poverty line.This cannot be good for anyone .Many cars are not fit for the road and some drivers spend far to many hours behind the wheel without proper rest.

Solution;
Cut the number of licences down to 500-800.
No vehicle over Severn years old allowed with half yearly M.O.T test on all vehicles over three year old.
Full vetting of drivers before licence given .
Limit to working hours(per day).

OK,this may push the cost up a bit but it's better and safer than the madness that may ensue with a free for all.
All cars over Three years old have to have an M.O.T, don't they?
Yes,every twelve months!
I think taxi cabs should be checked every six months considering the mileage they do.
[quote][p][bold]hal pel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Home is where the heart is[/bold] wrote: 1/.The only people using buses these days are students,people on benefits and pensioners. All with free bus passes. It is now cheaper to catch a taxi than to get the bus to some locations. How can this be right?Bus fares should be HALF what a taxi cost then maybe the working paying public can actually afford to use them! 2/Bolton council have dished out over 2,500 cab licences ,that means about one in ten people in Bolton have one.Too many cooks spoil the broth as they say and this over subscribing has cut the living wage for most taxi drivers to near(or over) the poverty line.This cannot be good for anyone .Many cars are not fit for the road and some drivers spend far to many hours behind the wheel without proper rest. Solution; Cut the number of licences down to 500-800. No vehicle over Severn years old allowed with half yearly M.O.T test on all vehicles over three year old. Full vetting of drivers before licence given . Limit to working hours(per day). OK,this may push the cost up a bit but it's better and safer than the madness that may ensue with a free for all.[/p][/quote]All cars over Three years old have to have an M.O.T, don't they?[/p][/quote]Yes,every twelve months! I think taxi cabs should be checked every six months considering the mileage they do. Home is where the heart is
  • Score: 2

6:07pm Mon 12 May 14

mr.mark.c says...

Home is where the heart is wrote:
hal pel wrote:
Home is where the heart is wrote:
1/.The only people using buses these days are students,people on benefits and pensioners. All with free bus passes.
It is now cheaper to catch a taxi than to get the bus to some locations.
How can this be right?Bus fares should be HALF what a taxi cost then maybe the working paying public can actually afford to use them!

2/Bolton council have dished out over 2,500 cab licences ,that means about one in ten people in Bolton have one.Too many cooks spoil the broth as they say and this over subscribing has cut the living wage for most taxi drivers to near(or over) the poverty line.This cannot be good for anyone .Many cars are not fit for the road and some drivers spend far to many hours behind the wheel without proper rest.

Solution;
Cut the number of licences down to 500-800.
No vehicle over Severn years old allowed with half yearly M.O.T test on all vehicles over three year old.
Full vetting of drivers before licence given .
Limit to working hours(per day).

OK,this may push the cost up a bit but it's better and safer than the madness that may ensue with a free for all.
All cars over Three years old have to have an M.O.T, don't they?
Yes,every twelve months!
I think taxi cabs should be checked every six months considering the mileage they do.
It is every 6 months and its far more strict than a normal MOT which they also require.
[quote][p][bold]Home is where the heart is[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hal pel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Home is where the heart is[/bold] wrote: 1/.The only people using buses these days are students,people on benefits and pensioners. All with free bus passes. It is now cheaper to catch a taxi than to get the bus to some locations. How can this be right?Bus fares should be HALF what a taxi cost then maybe the working paying public can actually afford to use them! 2/Bolton council have dished out over 2,500 cab licences ,that means about one in ten people in Bolton have one.Too many cooks spoil the broth as they say and this over subscribing has cut the living wage for most taxi drivers to near(or over) the poverty line.This cannot be good for anyone .Many cars are not fit for the road and some drivers spend far to many hours behind the wheel without proper rest. Solution; Cut the number of licences down to 500-800. No vehicle over Severn years old allowed with half yearly M.O.T test on all vehicles over three year old. Full vetting of drivers before licence given . Limit to working hours(per day). OK,this may push the cost up a bit but it's better and safer than the madness that may ensue with a free for all.[/p][/quote]All cars over Three years old have to have an M.O.T, don't they?[/p][/quote]Yes,every twelve months! I think taxi cabs should be checked every six months considering the mileage they do.[/p][/quote]It is every 6 months and its far more strict than a normal MOT which they also require. mr.mark.c
  • Score: 3

6:18pm Mon 12 May 14

mr.mark.c says...

Also (from bolton .gov)

To renew a licence it must be current at the time of the application. An application to renew a licence may be made up to one month before its expiry. If you allow your licence to expire but it is still within six weeks of the expiry date you will be expected to complete a Disclosure and Barring Service (DBS) check. If you allow your licence to expire and it is after the six weeks then you will have to reapply as a new driver.

A conviction declaration needs to be completed every time you renew your licence and DBS's are completed every three years.
Also (from bolton .gov) To renew a licence it must be current at the time of the application. An application to renew a licence may be made up to one month before its expiry. If you allow your licence to expire but it is still within six weeks of the expiry date you will be expected to complete a Disclosure and Barring Service (DBS) check. If you allow your licence to expire and it is after the six weeks then you will have to reapply as a new driver. A conviction declaration needs to be completed every time you renew your licence and DBS's are completed every three years. mr.mark.c
  • Score: 1

7:10pm Mon 12 May 14

Donkey Stone says...

Home is where the heart is wrote:
hal pel wrote:
Home is where the heart is wrote:
1/.The only people using buses these days are students,people on benefits and pensioners. All with free bus passes.
It is now cheaper to catch a taxi than to get the bus to some locations.
How can this be right?Bus fares should be HALF what a taxi cost then maybe the working paying public can actually afford to use them!

2/Bolton council have dished out over 2,500 cab licences ,that means about one in ten people in Bolton have one.Too many cooks spoil the broth as they say and this over subscribing has cut the living wage for most taxi drivers to near(or over) the poverty line.This cannot be good for anyone .Many cars are not fit for the road and some drivers spend far to many hours behind the wheel without proper rest.

Solution;
Cut the number of licences down to 500-800.
No vehicle over Severn years old allowed with half yearly M.O.T test on all vehicles over three year old.
Full vetting of drivers before licence given .
Limit to working hours(per day).

OK,this may push the cost up a bit but it's better and safer than the madness that may ensue with a free for all.
All cars over Three years old have to have an M.O.T, don't they?
Yes,every twelve months!
I think taxi cabs should be checked every six months considering the mileage they do.
They are tested every six months with a stricter MOT than other vehicles.
[quote][p][bold]Home is where the heart is[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hal pel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Home is where the heart is[/bold] wrote: 1/.The only people using buses these days are students,people on benefits and pensioners. All with free bus passes. It is now cheaper to catch a taxi than to get the bus to some locations. How can this be right?Bus fares should be HALF what a taxi cost then maybe the working paying public can actually afford to use them! 2/Bolton council have dished out over 2,500 cab licences ,that means about one in ten people in Bolton have one.Too many cooks spoil the broth as they say and this over subscribing has cut the living wage for most taxi drivers to near(or over) the poverty line.This cannot be good for anyone .Many cars are not fit for the road and some drivers spend far to many hours behind the wheel without proper rest. Solution; Cut the number of licences down to 500-800. No vehicle over Severn years old allowed with half yearly M.O.T test on all vehicles over three year old. Full vetting of drivers before licence given . Limit to working hours(per day). OK,this may push the cost up a bit but it's better and safer than the madness that may ensue with a free for all.[/p][/quote]All cars over Three years old have to have an M.O.T, don't they?[/p][/quote]Yes,every twelve months! I think taxi cabs should be checked every six months considering the mileage they do.[/p][/quote]They are tested every six months with a stricter MOT than other vehicles. Donkey Stone
  • Score: 0

7:19pm Mon 12 May 14

Donkey Stone says...

Home is where the heart is wrote:
hal pel wrote:
Home is where the heart is wrote:
1/.The only people using buses these days are students,people on benefits and pensioners. All with free bus passes.
It is now cheaper to catch a taxi than to get the bus to some locations.
How can this be right?Bus fares should be HALF what a taxi cost then maybe the working paying public can actually afford to use them!

2/Bolton council have dished out over 2,500 cab licences ,that means about one in ten people in Bolton have one.Too many cooks spoil the broth as they say and this over subscribing has cut the living wage for most taxi drivers to near(or over) the poverty line.This cannot be good for anyone .Many cars are not fit for the road and some drivers spend far to many hours behind the wheel without proper rest.

Solution;
Cut the number of licences down to 500-800.
No vehicle over Severn years old allowed with half yearly M.O.T test on all vehicles over three year old.
Full vetting of drivers before licence given .
Limit to working hours(per day).

OK,this may push the cost up a bit but it's better and safer than the madness that may ensue with a free for all.
All cars over Three years old have to have an M.O.T, don't they?
Yes,every twelve months!
I think taxi cabs should be checked every six months considering the mileage they do.
I think your arithmetic is somewhat askew. The population of Bolton is approx 275000. One in ten would mean 27500 cabs.
[quote][p][bold]Home is where the heart is[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hal pel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Home is where the heart is[/bold] wrote: 1/.The only people using buses these days are students,people on benefits and pensioners. All with free bus passes. It is now cheaper to catch a taxi than to get the bus to some locations. How can this be right?Bus fares should be HALF what a taxi cost then maybe the working paying public can actually afford to use them! 2/Bolton council have dished out over 2,500 cab licences ,that means about one in ten people in Bolton have one.Too many cooks spoil the broth as they say and this over subscribing has cut the living wage for most taxi drivers to near(or over) the poverty line.This cannot be good for anyone .Many cars are not fit for the road and some drivers spend far to many hours behind the wheel without proper rest. Solution; Cut the number of licences down to 500-800. No vehicle over Severn years old allowed with half yearly M.O.T test on all vehicles over three year old. Full vetting of drivers before licence given . Limit to working hours(per day). OK,this may push the cost up a bit but it's better and safer than the madness that may ensue with a free for all.[/p][/quote]All cars over Three years old have to have an M.O.T, don't they?[/p][/quote]Yes,every twelve months! I think taxi cabs should be checked every six months considering the mileage they do.[/p][/quote]I think your arithmetic is somewhat askew. The population of Bolton is approx 275000. One in ten would mean 27500 cabs. Donkey Stone
  • Score: 2

1:05am Tue 13 May 14

wsw69 says...

Even Stevie Wonder & David Blunkett can see this deregulation is heading towards a catasrophic bAll5-up.
Even Stevie Wonder & David Blunkett can see this deregulation is heading towards a catasrophic bAll5-up. wsw69
  • Score: 3

2:15pm Tue 13 May 14

wsw69 says...

Donkey Stone wrote:
Home is where the heart is wrote:
hal pel wrote:
Home is where the heart is wrote:
1/.The only people using buses these days are students,people on benefits and pensioners. All with free bus passes.
It is now cheaper to catch a taxi than to get the bus to some locations.
How can this be right?Bus fares should be HALF what a taxi cost then maybe the working paying public can actually afford to use them!

2/Bolton council have dished out over 2,500 cab licences ,that means about one in ten people in Bolton have one.Too many cooks spoil the broth as they say and this over subscribing has cut the living wage for most taxi drivers to near(or over) the poverty line.This cannot be good for anyone .Many cars are not fit for the road and some drivers spend far to many hours behind the wheel without proper rest.

Solution;
Cut the number of licences down to 500-800.
No vehicle over Severn years old allowed with half yearly M.O.T test on all vehicles over three year old.
Full vetting of drivers before licence given .
Limit to working hours(per day).

OK,this may push the cost up a bit but it's better and safer than the madness that may ensue with a free for all.
All cars over Three years old have to have an M.O.T, don't they?
Yes,every twelve months!
I think taxi cabs should be checked every six months considering the mileage they do.
I think your arithmetic is somewhat askew. The population of Bolton is approx 275000. One in ten would mean 27500 cabs.
Jesus H. Christ!! I'm glad you aren't getting the stats on behalf of sorting ANYTHING out, lol. Your arithmetic is bloody awful.

As of March 2011, there were 155,100 Licensed Private Hire Vehicles & 44,300 Hackney Carriages in the whole of England & Wales. 31% of Hackney Cabs and 34% of Licensed Private Hire Vehicles in operation are in London.

Your opening comment '1/.The only people using buses these days are students,people on benefits and pensioners. All with free bus passes' is complete and utter crap too.

As for regulations on cars etc, I'd shut up before you carry on and make yourself look a complete t1t. It's best to be thought as one and not prove it to everyone yourself that you are one.
[quote][p][bold]Donkey Stone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Home is where the heart is[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hal pel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Home is where the heart is[/bold] wrote: 1/.The only people using buses these days are students,people on benefits and pensioners. All with free bus passes. It is now cheaper to catch a taxi than to get the bus to some locations. How can this be right?Bus fares should be HALF what a taxi cost then maybe the working paying public can actually afford to use them! 2/Bolton council have dished out over 2,500 cab licences ,that means about one in ten people in Bolton have one.Too many cooks spoil the broth as they say and this over subscribing has cut the living wage for most taxi drivers to near(or over) the poverty line.This cannot be good for anyone .Many cars are not fit for the road and some drivers spend far to many hours behind the wheel without proper rest. Solution; Cut the number of licences down to 500-800. No vehicle over Severn years old allowed with half yearly M.O.T test on all vehicles over three year old. Full vetting of drivers before licence given . Limit to working hours(per day). OK,this may push the cost up a bit but it's better and safer than the madness that may ensue with a free for all.[/p][/quote]All cars over Three years old have to have an M.O.T, don't they?[/p][/quote]Yes,every twelve months! I think taxi cabs should be checked every six months considering the mileage they do.[/p][/quote]I think your arithmetic is somewhat askew. The population of Bolton is approx 275000. One in ten would mean 27500 cabs.[/p][/quote]Jesus H. Christ!! I'm glad you aren't getting the stats on behalf of sorting ANYTHING out, lol. Your arithmetic is bloody awful. As of March 2011, there were 155,100 Licensed Private Hire Vehicles & 44,300 Hackney Carriages in the whole of England & Wales. 31% of Hackney Cabs and 34% of Licensed Private Hire Vehicles in operation are in London. Your opening comment '1/.The only people using buses these days are students,people on benefits and pensioners. All with free bus passes' is complete and utter crap too. As for regulations on cars etc, I'd shut up before you carry on and make yourself look a complete t1t. It's best to be thought as one and not prove it to everyone yourself that you are one. wsw69
  • Score: 7

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