Work to start on Greenwood Arms site in Horwich

The Greenwood Arms in Horwich

The Greenwood Arms in Horwich

First published in News The Bolton News: Photograph of the Author by , reporter

WORK could soon begin on a controversial building development at a former pub in Horwich, after developers submitted a new application.

The derelict Greenwood Arms pub in Chorley New Road, which closed in 2011, had been the subject of a community campaign which aimed to save the landmark building.

The site has been the subject of several failed planning applications for permission to build retail units and apartments on the site as well as erecting a housing development on the pub’s bowling green, situated at the rear.

In 2012, after Bolton Council’s planning committee again rejected applications for the retail units and flats as well as refusing plans for 13 houses on the bowling green land, an appeal for both decisions to be reversed was upheld by a government planning inspector, despite continued protests from campaigners.

The building was targeted in suspected arson attacks in 2012 and has remained in a damaged state since.

But on April 11 this year, a renewed application was submitted to Bolton Council for minor changes to the plans, which could signify the start of the building process.

Developer Barnfield Real Estate Partnership Ltd has applied to make small changes to the dimensions of the planned retail units, as well as changing plans for two, two-bedroom flats on top of the units to three one-bedroom flats, citing the needs of the current market.

Planning officers believe this recent application could mean that work will begin at the Greenwood before the end of the year. Bolton West MP Julie Hilling, who backed the campaign to save the pub, said it remains a “real pity” that the building could not have remained as a pub.

She added: “It was particularly disappointing when the permission was granted because we believed there were other breweries interested.

“I drove past the building the other day and it is such a state that it is clear something has to be done there — its just a tragedy it has come to this.”

Ms Hilling’s sentiments were echoed by Horwich Town Cllr, Kevan Helsby, who said: “It is a bit of an eyesore and I think people want it sorted out — but obviously I wish it could have remained as a pub. It was a very popular venue at one time.”

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9:27am Mon 12 May 14

pbarton1 says...

My 5 year old granddaughter is fascinated by the state of the Greenwood and wishes somebody would 'mend' it. She will be very upset if they pull it down!!
My 5 year old granddaughter is fascinated by the state of the Greenwood and wishes somebody would 'mend' it. She will be very upset if they pull it down!! pbarton1
  • Score: 4

9:45am Mon 12 May 14

bwfc0210 says...

Work could soon begin, yet it then says by the end of the year_7 months away.Make your mind up, it's a disgrace and should be demolished NOW.
Work could soon begin, yet it then says by the end of the year_7 months away.Make your mind up, it's a disgrace and should be demolished NOW. bwfc0210
  • Score: 6

1:34pm Mon 12 May 14

cliff4treasurer says...

It being a "disgrace" was all part of the plan.
It being a "disgrace" was all part of the plan. cliff4treasurer
  • Score: 14

7:10pm Mon 12 May 14

the hand says...

To the councillor who thinks it was a popular pub at one point when was he thinking of back in the thirty s truth be told if it was that popular then it wouldn't have closed down in the first place the only people who it was popular with was under aged kids and missus hilling drove past eh well she can keep on driving and driving and driving straight out of town and beyond suppose ill have to wait till next year for that one though
To the councillor who thinks it was a popular pub at one point when was he thinking of back in the thirty s truth be told if it was that popular then it wouldn't have closed down in the first place the only people who it was popular with was under aged kids and missus hilling drove past eh well she can keep on driving and driving and driving straight out of town and beyond suppose ill have to wait till next year for that one though the hand
  • Score: 2

12:16am Tue 13 May 14

keithyno.1 says...

Horwich Town Cllr, Kevan Helsby, said: “It is a bit of an eyesore and I think people want it sorted out — but obviously I wish it could have remained as a pub. It was a very popular venue at one time."

Err, a BIT of an eyesore?? A BIT??!! Bloody hell, there goes the Master of Understatement!! It is a blight on the landscape of Horwich, it is grotesque, it is an ugly, rotten, burnt-out, derelict shell of a building that should have been demolished about 2 years ago but for the bloody-mindedness of the said Cllr and his ilk who, peeved because they didn't get their way with a pub being made to stay open where nobody wanted to drink anymore, blocked every attempt by developers to turn the site into something more useful and attractive.

You know something, I think they'd really, REALLY prefer to keep The Greenwood in its current state just to make some nonsensical moral point, rather than thinking beyond, er, tomorrow.....
Horwich Town Cllr, Kevan Helsby, said: “It is a bit of an eyesore and I think people want it sorted out — but obviously I wish it could have remained as a pub. It was a very popular venue at one time." Err, a BIT of an eyesore?? A BIT??!! Bloody hell, there goes the Master of Understatement!! It is a blight on the landscape of Horwich, it is grotesque, it is an ugly, rotten, burnt-out, derelict shell of a building that should have been demolished about 2 years ago but for the bloody-mindedness of the said Cllr and his ilk who, peeved because they didn't get their way with a pub being made to stay open where nobody wanted to drink anymore, blocked every attempt by developers to turn the site into something more useful and attractive. You know something, I think they'd really, REALLY prefer to keep The Greenwood in its current state just to make some nonsensical moral point, rather than thinking beyond, er, tomorrow..... keithyno.1
  • Score: 5

10:41am Tue 13 May 14

boydell says...

keithyno.1 wrote:
Horwich Town Cllr, Kevan Helsby, said: “It is a bit of an eyesore and I think people want it sorted out — but obviously I wish it could have remained as a pub. It was a very popular venue at one time."

Err, a BIT of an eyesore?? A BIT??!! Bloody hell, there goes the Master of Understatement!! It is a blight on the landscape of Horwich, it is grotesque, it is an ugly, rotten, burnt-out, derelict shell of a building that should have been demolished about 2 years ago but for the bloody-mindedness of the said Cllr and his ilk who, peeved because they didn't get their way with a pub being made to stay open where nobody wanted to drink anymore, blocked every attempt by developers to turn the site into something more useful and attractive.

You know something, I think they'd really, REALLY prefer to keep The Greenwood in its current state just to make some nonsensical moral point, rather than thinking beyond, er, tomorrow.....
HEAR HEAR !!
So now we know who was behind this dreadful eyesore we have had to look at and endure every day for the past few years......Mr Helsby and friends on the planning committee !. Roll on the 22nd.....Voting day..
What must visitors to the area have thought when coming off the motorway to either visiting Horwich (god forbid) (no shops open) or Rivington park
The sooner this building is pulled down the better. They can even build a bloody big skyscraper for all I care, anything will look better then this awful site.
Shame on you Mr Helsbey and shame on the planning committee for letting this go on for so long. Whatever were you thinking of ????
[quote][p][bold]keithyno.1[/bold] wrote: Horwich Town Cllr, Kevan Helsby, said: “It is a bit of an eyesore and I think people want it sorted out — but obviously I wish it could have remained as a pub. It was a very popular venue at one time." Err, a BIT of an eyesore?? A BIT??!! Bloody hell, there goes the Master of Understatement!! It is a blight on the landscape of Horwich, it is grotesque, it is an ugly, rotten, burnt-out, derelict shell of a building that should have been demolished about 2 years ago but for the bloody-mindedness of the said Cllr and his ilk who, peeved because they didn't get their way with a pub being made to stay open where nobody wanted to drink anymore, blocked every attempt by developers to turn the site into something more useful and attractive. You know something, I think they'd really, REALLY prefer to keep The Greenwood in its current state just to make some nonsensical moral point, rather than thinking beyond, er, tomorrow.....[/p][/quote]HEAR HEAR !! So now we know who was behind this dreadful eyesore we have had to look at and endure every day for the past few years......Mr Helsby and friends on the planning committee !. Roll on the 22nd.....Voting day.. What must visitors to the area have thought when coming off the motorway to either visiting Horwich (god forbid) (no shops open) or Rivington park The sooner this building is pulled down the better. They can even build a bloody big skyscraper for all I care, anything will look better then this awful site. Shame on you Mr Helsbey and shame on the planning committee for letting this go on for so long. Whatever were you thinking of ???? boydell
  • Score: 13

9:54pm Tue 13 May 14

StevieM75 says...

I hear Domino's are taking one of the retail units
I hear Domino's are taking one of the retail units StevieM75
  • Score: 1

8:31am Wed 14 May 14

the hand says...

Remember PLEASE Who kept on blocking planning in the first place Sylvester Steve rock and co they didn't drink in the Greenwood probably never been in it yet they thought it was a vote winner from the three or four regulars and they are probably not stil alive now but hey ho
Remember PLEASE Who kept on blocking planning in the first place Sylvester Steve rock and co they didn't drink in the Greenwood probably never been in it yet they thought it was a vote winner from the three or four regulars and they are probably not stil alive now but hey ho the hand
  • Score: 2

10:56am Mon 19 May 14

Horwich Resident says...

I live near this eyesore and I am sick of it. I am very angry with the short-sighted protesters who blocked every single change. Well done, we've been subjected to 2 years living with a burnt out pub! It's not going to be a pub again, it wasn't even a nice pub when it was open. Move on. Change happens. It needs to be demolished and surely shops and flats are nicer than a burnt out pub. It is a horrible thing to be living near, or to drive past on your way into Horwich. I really hope the plans go through this time.
I live near this eyesore and I am sick of it. I am very angry with the short-sighted protesters who blocked every single change. Well done, we've been subjected to 2 years living with a burnt out pub! It's not going to be a pub again, it wasn't even a nice pub when it was open. Move on. Change happens. It needs to be demolished and surely shops and flats are nicer than a burnt out pub. It is a horrible thing to be living near, or to drive past on your way into Horwich. I really hope the plans go through this time. Horwich Resident
  • Score: 2

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