'Lives at risk' as ambulance service plans £13.8 million cuts

The Bolton News: 'Lives at risk' as ambulance service plans £13.8 million cuts 'Lives at risk' as ambulance service plans £13.8 million cuts

LIVES could be at risk if plans to cut ambulance cover overnight in Bolton go ahead, campaigners have warned.

Under a shake-up proposed by the North West Ambulance Service (NWAS), Bolton could lose one of the four ambulances that attend emergency calls between midnight and 8am.

The organisation has been told to find £13.8 million of savings this year, meaning Bury and Wigan could also lose an ambulance.

Public services union Unison has launched a petition against the proposals, and Paul Foley, the North West head of health, said there is a real fear that people might die if ambulances are lost.

He added: “I think there’s a very serious risk to life and limb for the people of Bolton, and for the cover on the motorways by the M61 and M62.

“Time can be very critical in emergency calls — if someone has a heart attack or stroke, they need to get to A&E as soon as possible.

“I’ve got a lot of sympathy for the ambulance service but they are only doing this to save money.”

If implemented, Bolton will have three ambulances and four rapid response vehicles over the eight hours.

No frontline redundancies are currently expected — with the trust deciding to leave vacant posts unfilled to save cash.

But ambulance bosses have warned there is “no guarantee” jobs would be safe next year.

Two directors in the corporate department have already lost their jobs, as part £6 million of savings.

Derek Cartwright, director of operations at NWAS, said there are demands on the organisation to make financial savings and the majority of 999 calls do not require patients to be taken to hospital.

He added: “The ambulances we place in communities are planned around patient need and activity.

“We routinely review this throughout the North West, based upon the activity in local areas and if evidence shows that the vehicles provided are not working to full capacity, we would consider changing the hours it works.”

Health bosses in Bolton vowed to monitor the situation closely.

Su Long, chief officer of NHS Bolton Clinical Commissioning Group, said: “NHS Blackpool Clinical Commissioning Group, as lead commissioner, was presented with the cost improvement plan by the North West Ambulance Service (NWAS) at the Strategic Partnership Board.

“Blackpool CCG has concluded that NWAS has followed an appropriate process in respect of establishing the cost improvement process and given due consideration to risks and impact of each scheme across the North West footprint.

“If we identify any deterioration in performance arising from these changes, the matter will be taken up directly with NWAS for swift resolution.”

Michelle Redgard, divisional director of operations at Bolton NHS Foundation Trust, which runs the Royal Bolton Hospital, added: “We will be working closely with the NWAS to ensure the best possible care is provided to patients in the Bolton area and that people are directed to the most suitable healthcare services.”

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6:17am Wed 28 May 14

oftbewildered2 says...

the birthrate is increasing and so is our population - yet essential services are forced to make cuts. It is all very well making these decisions based on current population - but look at how quickly we have had to build new schools following closing down so many 'under-used' ones. I am of the opinion that all these cuts will cost money in the long run, but there again I am no financial wizard.
the birthrate is increasing and so is our population - yet essential services are forced to make cuts. It is all very well making these decisions based on current population - but look at how quickly we have had to build new schools following closing down so many 'under-used' ones. I am of the opinion that all these cuts will cost money in the long run, but there again I am no financial wizard. oftbewildered2
  • Score: 15

6:54am Wed 28 May 14

Jerry cruncher says...

We give the EU that much In a quarter of a day and then their's the 12bn foreign aid budget.No need for any cuts just a bit of common sense in how our tax money is spent
We give the EU that much In a quarter of a day and then their's the 12bn foreign aid budget.No need for any cuts just a bit of common sense in how our tax money is spent Jerry cruncher
  • Score: 8

8:33am Wed 28 May 14

nigella farrage says...

Jerry cruncher wrote:
We give the EU that much In a quarter of a day and then their's the 12bn foreign aid budget.No need for any cuts just a bit of common sense in how our tax money is spent
But look at any UKIP manifesto and they will impose deeper financial cuts on front line services and will privates these services so that there are even more cuts so that the new emergency "companies" can make a profit to give dividends to their shareholders!

And these decisions will not be based on being in the EU but "open market" policies of UKIP!

This has nothing to do with the EU at all but political policies of the governing party, which at this moment in time are The Conservatives.

You will be disappointed if you think we would be saving money if we left the EU. How much will it cost to close the treaties and pacts we already have, How much will it cost to create new treaties and pacts with the EU and outlying countries? How much will it cost to trade with the EU through EFTA (exactly the same as now but we wouldn't have a voice and we would still have to implement the EU directives in fact we would have no opt-out clauses) and then how much would it cost to trade with NAFTA and worst of all how much ill it cost to be part of the country destroying TTIP - which gives US companies the option to claim compensation from European counties (including those in the EU) for countries giving public holidays and much more detrimental and bankrupting details.

It is easy as people think to leave the EU, leaving the body itself is relatively easy, but at what financial cost?
[quote][p][bold]Jerry cruncher[/bold] wrote: We give the EU that much In a quarter of a day and then their's the 12bn foreign aid budget.No need for any cuts just a bit of common sense in how our tax money is spent[/p][/quote]But look at any UKIP manifesto and they will impose deeper financial cuts on front line services and will privates these services so that there are even more cuts so that the new emergency "companies" can make a profit to give dividends to their shareholders! And these decisions will not be based on being in the EU but "open market" policies of UKIP! This has nothing to do with the EU at all but political policies of the governing party, which at this moment in time are The Conservatives. You will be disappointed if you think we would be saving money if we left the EU. How much will it cost to close the treaties and pacts we already have, How much will it cost to create new treaties and pacts with the EU and outlying countries? How much will it cost to trade with the EU through EFTA (exactly the same as now but we wouldn't have a voice and we would still have to implement the EU directives in fact we would have no opt-out clauses) and then how much would it cost to trade with NAFTA and worst of all how much ill it cost to be part of the country destroying TTIP - which gives US companies the option to claim compensation from European counties (including those in the EU) for countries giving public holidays and much more detrimental and bankrupting details. It is easy as people think to leave the EU, leaving the body itself is relatively easy, but at what financial cost? nigella farrage
  • Score: 1

9:11am Wed 28 May 14

catsden says...

MUST REMEMBER NOT TO BE TAKEN ILL IN THE NIGHT
MUST REMEMBER NOT TO BE TAKEN ILL IN THE NIGHT catsden
  • Score: 6

11:06am Wed 28 May 14

cobblers7 says...

Since they were given responsibility for commissioning services, those who used to care about public health are now acting as lackeys for this appalling ConDem government, implementing its austerity agenda. Meanwhile those at the top of the money tree offshore billions to their tax havens. Anyone who thinks that UKIP will change any of this is seriously deluded.
Since they were given responsibility for commissioning services, those who used to care about public health are now acting as lackeys for this appalling ConDem government, implementing its austerity agenda. Meanwhile those at the top of the money tree offshore billions to their tax havens. Anyone who thinks that UKIP will change any of this is seriously deluded. cobblers7
  • Score: 2

11:28am Wed 28 May 14

Gore Seer says...

nigella farrage wrote:
Jerry cruncher wrote:
We give the EU that much In a quarter of a day and then their's the 12bn foreign aid budget.No need for any cuts just a bit of common sense in how our tax money is spent
But look at any UKIP manifesto and they will impose deeper financial cuts on front line services and will privates these services so that there are even more cuts so that the new emergency "companies" can make a profit to give dividends to their shareholders!

And these decisions will not be based on being in the EU but "open market" policies of UKIP!

This has nothing to do with the EU at all but political policies of the governing party, which at this moment in time are The Conservatives.

You will be disappointed if you think we would be saving money if we left the EU. How much will it cost to close the treaties and pacts we already have, How much will it cost to create new treaties and pacts with the EU and outlying countries? How much will it cost to trade with the EU through EFTA (exactly the same as now but we wouldn't have a voice and we would still have to implement the EU directives in fact we would have no opt-out clauses) and then how much would it cost to trade with NAFTA and worst of all how much ill it cost to be part of the country destroying TTIP - which gives US companies the option to claim compensation from European counties (including those in the EU) for countries giving public holidays and much more detrimental and bankrupting details.

It is easy as people think to leave the EU, leaving the body itself is relatively easy, but at what financial cost?
Your Comment Is Quite True.
[quote][p][bold]nigella farrage[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jerry cruncher[/bold] wrote: We give the EU that much In a quarter of a day and then their's the 12bn foreign aid budget.No need for any cuts just a bit of common sense in how our tax money is spent[/p][/quote]But look at any UKIP manifesto and they will impose deeper financial cuts on front line services and will privates these services so that there are even more cuts so that the new emergency "companies" can make a profit to give dividends to their shareholders! And these decisions will not be based on being in the EU but "open market" policies of UKIP! This has nothing to do with the EU at all but political policies of the governing party, which at this moment in time are The Conservatives. You will be disappointed if you think we would be saving money if we left the EU. How much will it cost to close the treaties and pacts we already have, How much will it cost to create new treaties and pacts with the EU and outlying countries? How much will it cost to trade with the EU through EFTA (exactly the same as now but we wouldn't have a voice and we would still have to implement the EU directives in fact we would have no opt-out clauses) and then how much would it cost to trade with NAFTA and worst of all how much ill it cost to be part of the country destroying TTIP - which gives US companies the option to claim compensation from European counties (including those in the EU) for countries giving public holidays and much more detrimental and bankrupting details. It is easy as people think to leave the EU, leaving the body itself is relatively easy, but at what financial cost?[/p][/quote]Your Comment Is Quite True. Gore Seer
  • Score: 4

4:23pm Wed 28 May 14

Lynn57 says...

oftbewildered2 wrote:
the birthrate is increasing and so is our population - yet essential services are forced to make cuts. It is all very well making these decisions based on current population - but look at how quickly we have had to build new schools following closing down so many 'under-used' ones. I am of the opinion that all these cuts will cost money in the long run, but there again I am no financial wizard.
What are the wretched Lib Dems doing about this? Will anybody fightvforvthe cause of the people that need the NHS and cannot afford private? Nothing they are falling apart and having a leadership crisis.
[quote][p][bold]oftbewildered2[/bold] wrote: the birthrate is increasing and so is our population - yet essential services are forced to make cuts. It is all very well making these decisions based on current population - but look at how quickly we have had to build new schools following closing down so many 'under-used' ones. I am of the opinion that all these cuts will cost money in the long run, but there again I am no financial wizard.[/p][/quote]What are the wretched Lib Dems doing about this? Will anybody fightvforvthe cause of the people that need the NHS and cannot afford private? Nothing they are falling apart and having a leadership crisis. Lynn57
  • Score: 3

6:29pm Wed 28 May 14

stevie1471 says...

I live in the horwich area, im a qualified first aider. I have atended a few serious incidents like child being hit by a car, a car verus motorbike, and some others. They are cutting another ambulance ,the average time for an ambulance ( life threatening or otherwise) when I was helping with these incidents ( even child ) was over an hour, so much for people surving the "GOLDEN HOUR" plus horwich and Bolton have many vulnerable and elderly residents, life expectancy after accidents are going to decrease rapidly, it was bad enough before. I wrote to Bolton council about this, and suggested that they encouraged some first responders and give them a grant to get all equipment ( I was willing to do it myself) .But it fell on deaf ears, they don't realise it can help free up ambulances that are not needed, for life and death emergencies. But With this country, im just a number, as are we all, and have no say..... like to see what solutions THEY com up with. What happened to our rights being listened to. Mind you I am a british resident living in u.k, so what else can i expect really???
I live in the horwich area, im a qualified first aider. I have atended a few serious incidents like child being hit by a car, a car verus motorbike, and some others. They are cutting another ambulance ,the average time for an ambulance ( life threatening or otherwise) when I was helping with these incidents ( even child ) was over an hour, so much for people surving the "GOLDEN HOUR" plus horwich and Bolton have many vulnerable and elderly residents, life expectancy after accidents are going to decrease rapidly, it was bad enough before. I wrote to Bolton council about this, and suggested that they encouraged some first responders and give them a grant to get all equipment ( I was willing to do it myself) .But it fell on deaf ears, they don't realise it can help free up ambulances that are not needed, for life and death emergencies. But With this country, im just a number, as are we all, and have no say..... like to see what solutions THEY com up with. What happened to our rights being listened to. Mind you I am a british resident living in u.k, so what else can i expect really??? stevie1471
  • Score: 0

9:35pm Wed 28 May 14

Bolton paramedic says...

I am a paramedic and work in Bolton , and I can tell you this ,most ambulances within Bolton work to capacity most of the time , the odd time they are not out on the road means that the people of Bolton actually have emergency cover , when in reality most of he time vehicles have to come from all over the North West to deal with emergencies in Bolton, becuse our vehicles are busy. patients regulally wait 20, 30, 40 mins for a vehicle to transport them to hospital, sometimes longer , ask your friends or family i'm sure they know of an incident like this. our RRV's can be on scene with patients for up to 2 hours whilst waiting for a vehicle. so the comment of "if vehicles are not working to capacity the times they work are changed so they do" is incorrect. The comment that the majority of patients do not go to hospital is also incorrect as estimate 60-70% do.
The level of cover thats suggested Bolton will still have is incorrect, I can tell you there are only 2 x 24 hour rapid response cars in Bolton not 4 as Is suggested.
NWAS are also cutting the working hours of a further a 2 x 24 hr ambulances from the surrounding areas during the night, one from Bury and one from Wigan , where NWAS also say they have 2 x 24 hr Rapid response vehicles when hey only have 1. this will also deplete cover that may be needed within our town at peak times,
the facts are these over the past 10 years our work load has gone up about 100% and this will no doubt continue to rise. The days of staff and vehicles being on base for any period of time is long gone.
the CCG say "if performance deteriorates they will contact NWAS" its all about performance , statistics and response times , when that RRV arrives on scene the Ambulance service have hit their target, it does'nt matter if someone is lying in the road or very ill at home and in need of urgent transport, these patients may still have to wait a long time for an ambulance.
I suggest the people of Bolton and Wigan and Bury contact their MP'S about this. NWAS say it's about hving to save money and i know all about austerity, but the government told the public the NHS was ringfenced and would not face cuts.
a sad, sad, day or the people of Bolton.
I am a paramedic and work in Bolton , and I can tell you this ,most ambulances within Bolton work to capacity most of the time , the odd time they are not out on the road means that the people of Bolton actually have emergency cover , when in reality most of he time vehicles have to come from all over the North West to deal with emergencies in Bolton, becuse our vehicles are busy. patients regulally wait 20, 30, 40 mins for a vehicle to transport them to hospital, sometimes longer , ask your friends or family i'm sure they know of an incident like this. our RRV's can be on scene with patients for up to 2 hours whilst waiting for a vehicle. so the comment of "if vehicles are not working to capacity the times they work are changed so they do" is incorrect. The comment that the majority of patients do not go to hospital is also incorrect as estimate 60-70% do. The level of cover thats suggested Bolton will still have is incorrect, I can tell you there are only 2 x 24 hour rapid response cars in Bolton not 4 as Is suggested. NWAS are also cutting the working hours of a further a 2 x 24 hr ambulances from the surrounding areas during the night, one from Bury and one from Wigan , where NWAS also say they have 2 x 24 hr Rapid response vehicles when hey only have 1. this will also deplete cover that may be needed within our town at peak times, the facts are these over the past 10 years our work load has gone up about 100% and this will no doubt continue to rise. The days of staff and vehicles being on base for any period of time is long gone. the CCG say "if performance deteriorates they will contact NWAS" its all about performance , statistics and response times , when that RRV arrives on scene the Ambulance service have hit their target, it does'nt matter if someone is lying in the road or very ill at home and in need of urgent transport, these patients may still have to wait a long time for an ambulance. I suggest the people of Bolton and Wigan and Bury contact their MP'S about this. NWAS say it's about hving to save money and i know all about austerity, but the government told the public the NHS was ringfenced and would not face cuts. a sad, sad, day or the people of Bolton. Bolton paramedic
  • Score: 1

11:43pm Wed 28 May 14

stevie1471 says...

I totally agree with Bolton paramedic, All figures are always worse than what they claim. The ambulance service do a FANTASTIC job, with the resources they have. If an MP or councillors etc, has the same experience with themselves or a member of their family, where they have to wait for an emergency ambulance, They would have something to say. " looks like the all important "golden hour" will not exist anymore. They have a voice, unlike the "general population". What happened to our basic human rights, which the so called "EU" and U.K supposedly hold to the highest regard, ie Everyone has the right to free and professional health care, ( if they cant afford private healthcare, which is 95% of population) weather non emergency or emergency!! this is also laid down in European LAW. So the government need to be held accountable THEY HAVE BROKEN LAWS, and who will hold them to account??? people need to get a petition to EU courts of human to take action against our government, and hold them accountable for ruining our country at the expense of us so called commoners. They quote EU when it suits. ENOUGH is ENOUGH. And if the union that helps paramedics and their rights, decide to take protest action, EVERYONE in Bolton, Bury and Wigan should stand together with them, and DEMAND CHANGES!! not just about this, but police, fire, healthcare etc. What do people pay council taxes for........? supposed answer.....for services vital to the community and maintain them. Actual answer as relates now...... To pay for vital services that don't happen, and paying more year after year for LESS SERVICES. The Bolton news should print in their paper on some of the comments made to various stories, especially when it involves major issues to the community like this, ( id happily do a weekly page on what the public really think on all the issues that face us), that way people concerned in making these decisions are forced ( due to it being publicised ) to respond, instead of hiding behind long words or sentences that only people with a higher education could understand, ( id keep on at them until they gave a definitive answer in plain English). They are not going to come on here and look at comments disagreeing. You need our views publicised as well, not just the side of the person or body that make these decisions. You are in a position to help get our points across, but apart from website, you don't! Anyway sorry for the rant people like everyone else I've had enough, keep fighting for your rights people!! If we all stand together WE CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE after all, the people put the government in power, we can also take it away, everyone needs to put their differences behind them and stand together as one, like the British have always been famous for, in the face of adversity. Its time to make Britain GREAT Again!!!
I totally agree with Bolton paramedic, All figures are always worse than what they claim. The ambulance service do a FANTASTIC job, with the resources they have. If an MP or councillors etc, has the same experience with themselves or a member of their family, where they have to wait for an emergency ambulance, They would have something to say. " looks like the all important "golden hour" will not exist anymore. They have a voice, unlike the "general population". What happened to our basic human rights, which the so called "EU" and U.K supposedly hold to the highest regard, ie Everyone has the right to free and professional health care, ( if they cant afford private healthcare, which is 95% of population) weather non emergency or emergency!! this is also laid down in European LAW. So the government need to be held accountable THEY HAVE BROKEN LAWS, and who will hold them to account??? people need to get a petition to EU courts of human to take action against our government, and hold them accountable for ruining our country at the expense of us so called commoners. They quote EU when it suits. ENOUGH is ENOUGH. And if the union that helps paramedics and their rights, decide to take protest action, EVERYONE in Bolton, Bury and Wigan should stand together with them, and DEMAND CHANGES!! not just about this, but police, fire, healthcare etc. What do people pay council taxes for........? supposed answer.....for services vital to the community and maintain them. Actual answer as relates now...... To pay for vital services that don't happen, and paying more year after year for LESS SERVICES. The Bolton news should print in their paper on some of the comments made to various stories, especially when it involves major issues to the community like this, ( id happily do a weekly page on what the public really think on all the issues that face us), that way people concerned in making these decisions are forced ( due to it being publicised ) to respond, instead of hiding behind long words or sentences that only people with a higher education could understand, ( id keep on at them until they gave a definitive answer in plain English). They are not going to come on here and look at comments disagreeing. You need our views publicised as well, not just the side of the person or body that make these decisions. You are in a position to help get our points across, but apart from website, you don't! Anyway sorry for the rant people like everyone else I've had enough, keep fighting for your rights people!! If we all stand together WE CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE after all, the people put the government in power, we can also take it away, everyone needs to put their differences behind them and stand together as one, like the British have always been famous for, in the face of adversity. Its time to make Britain GREAT Again!!! stevie1471
  • Score: 0

11:02am Fri 30 May 14

Puffin-Billy says...

The Labour Party in Bolton, and in the rest of the country have betrayed the people on the subject of the NHS. Hence the silence from Cllr Linda Thomas on this one !

The Labour Party started the sell off of the NHS, and the ConDems are just carrying it on.

Cllr Linda Thomas is just doing her job---hanging on to power by going along with it all.

There are none so blind as those who will not see.

The decimation of the NHS is happening all over the country.

Neo liberalism is the name of the disease which is deliberately ruining our healthcare system.

In the United States there are 10 times as many mentally ill people in prisons as there are in hospitals - a shocking statistic that one would associate with a third world country - and it’s starting to happen here with cuts to NHS mental health beds. Meanwhile the United States likes to lecture the world about the value of human rights.

In Britain, 35% of adults with anxiety or diagnosable depression are not in contact with mental health services; the figure is 76% for children aged five to 15.

Only 6% of spending on mental health goes on services aimed at children and young people, even though 50% of lifetime mental illness starts by the age of 14.

Many GP practises are sacking experienced nurses because they are deemed too expensive.

In Corby, the private company which is owned by the same GPs who make up the CCG and which now owns all Primary Healthcare delivery for around 70,000 people, sacked its entire staff of private-company supplied nurses when Corby Lakeside Plus Company Ltd, (as it was then) was put into administration (very quietly) at the start of 2013.

Here's what South Teesside CCG is up to in East Cleveland.

- They have withdrawn funding or their local GP Practise which is now closing.

- They have withdrawn funding for their Walk-In Clinic which is now closing

- They have withdrawn funding for the Minor Injuries Unit which is two miles away and which is now closing.

- They have withdrawn funding for their nearest stroke unit which is now closing

- They have reduced funding to their nearest Urgent Care Unit in Redcar.

"Urgent" is now classified as you must have a pre-booked appointment. Appointments are allocated by the "111" service who now operate an "urgent" callback service....."urgent" being 5 hours.

- Essentially, the mantra once again is "Go to A&E"

Dan Poulter assured the public that Lansley's reforms, in which Poulter was a key player, would massively improve healthcare. He was of course, like David Cameron, lying.

Health Minister Dan Poulter is refusing to meet local representatives to discuss the funding crisis - a crisis which is being deliberately induced - a crisis for which the default remedy will be massive privatisation.

If the BMA had any cojones they would strike Poulter off.

In April, 2015 the NHS will loose £2bn to local government "Health and Wellbeing" Boards and local clinical commissioning groups (CCGs), as part of the £20 Billion cuts recommended by Mckinsey - money which will be siphoned off into private health facilities.
* "There are about 768 hospital beds at the Royal Bolton and more than 35 wards"...But because NHS Bolton Clinical Commissioning Group, working in partnership with Bolton NHS Foundation Trust need to conform to the wishes of the politician's pals in private healthcare, private insurance, and the financial consultancy firms , they are reducing the number of beds.

*"The average cost of running a ward is £1 million a year."...And that's far too much money to ask wealthy taxpayers to pay in these times of crippling austerity, so we won't be having the minimum number of nurse to each bed, as recommended by the RCN - they don't know what they're talking about anyway - Jeremy Hunt sez so.

**Between 50 and 70 patients are admitted to hospital every day"....And a lot of 'em are just a bunch of old **** who don't contribute much to society, except for buying beer and fags. In fact they're nothing but a drain on the NHS bleeding it dry, and blocking NHS beds when they could be doing something useful like filling the pockets of private nursing home owners.

*"The Bolton NHS Foundation Trust must save £73 million over the next five years.".............
..MUST?.....Who sez they must? Oh yes of course, McKinsey and all their pals in the UK Government. £20 Billion nationally - all by 2015.

Better get rid of some NHS beds and kick the old **** out, keep 'em quiet by fillin' 'em full of pills..........my mate owns a pharmacy company - got it sorted.

Cllr Linda Thomas, deputy leader of Bolton Council and chairman of the Health and Wellbeing Board, said: “As the cuts from central government continue to bite into the NHS and local government, we are having to work in a more integrated way to mitigate the situation”.

More damned hypocrisy, and mealy - mouthed claptrap from the Labour Party who have betrayed the NHS and the people of Bolton.

Cllr Thomas should be speaking out against the privatisation of the NHS, not facilitating its destruction.

A member of staff wrote: “I have two questions. Why are the wards being closed and why has there been no discussion with staff or patients regarding the closures?

And Dr. Wirin Bhatiani replied: (just joking)

"Ah yes, of course; you mean the discussions / consultation / phone - ins etc etc... to which I referred at 12:18pm on Monday 12th August 2013 in the Bolton News, when I said we can’t do this alone. We need everyone to get involved and play their part in making these important decisions.”

Nah you didn't really believe that load of old cobblers, do you?

The often trotted out sentence: "Health and social care is set to be transformed in Bolton this year, with hospital resources being shifted into the community” really means: "Kiss good bye to the NHS in Bolton, and say Hello to Privatisation".

It is the purpose of the CCGs and Monitor to enforce competition to eventually privatise all aspects of the NHS.

Until the citizens of Bolton stop believing the ever growing volume of propaganda and lies being pumped out by Bolton CCG in these pages, and all the other CCGs around the country, we will continue to lose NHS facilities, such as NHS mental health, NHS maternity , and they will gradually be farmed out to private suppliers.

These links will give you more idea of what Bolton CCG and CCGs across England intend for our NHS.

“The people of Stafford have said loudly and clearly what they want – they want to keep their NHS hospital, which is now among the best in England. But the government, for all its talk of ‘choice’ and ‘localism’, has no intention of missing the opportunity it sees, not only to close Stafford hospital and farm services out to private companies, but to set a precedent that it can apply to other hospitals as well – and it has targeted 36% of England’s hospitals just for the first phase.”
http://www.ccgwatch.
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“They want to replace one ward in Bolton and another in Salford and replace them with community care, but this will leave people suffering with mental health hopelessly exposed,” said Ms Reissman. So far, the Clinical Commissioning Groups (CCGs) in Bolton and Salford say they their plans have not been affected by Trafford’s decision to pull out in the face of strong opposition.
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The Labour Party in Bolton, and in the rest of the country have betrayed the people on the subject of the NHS. Hence the silence from Cllr Linda Thomas on this one ! The Labour Party started the sell off of the NHS, and the ConDems are just carrying it on. Cllr Linda Thomas is just doing her job---hanging on to power by going along with it all. There are none so blind as those who will not see. The decimation of the NHS is happening all over the country. Neo liberalism is the name of the disease which is deliberately ruining our healthcare system. In the United States there are 10 times as many mentally ill people in prisons as there are in hospitals - a shocking statistic that one would associate with a third world country - and it’s starting to happen here with cuts to NHS mental health beds. Meanwhile the United States likes to lecture the world about the value of human rights. In Britain, 35% of adults with anxiety or diagnosable depression are not in contact with mental health services; the figure is 76% for children aged five to 15. Only 6% of spending on mental health goes on services aimed at children and young people, even though 50% of lifetime mental illness starts by the age of 14. Many GP practises are sacking experienced nurses because they are deemed too expensive. In Corby, the private company which is owned by the same GPs who make up the CCG and which now owns all Primary Healthcare delivery for around 70,000 people, sacked its entire staff of private-company supplied nurses when Corby Lakeside Plus Company Ltd, (as it was then) was put into administration (very quietly) at the start of 2013. Here's what South Teesside CCG is up to in East Cleveland. - They have withdrawn funding or their local GP Practise which is now closing. - They have withdrawn funding for their Walk-In Clinic which is now closing - They have withdrawn funding for the Minor Injuries Unit which is two miles away and which is now closing. - They have withdrawn funding for their nearest stroke unit which is now closing - They have reduced funding to their nearest Urgent Care Unit in Redcar. "Urgent" is now classified as you must have a pre-booked appointment. Appointments are allocated by the "111" service who now operate an "urgent" callback service....."urgent" being 5 hours. - Essentially, the mantra once again is "Go to A&E" Dan Poulter assured the public that Lansley's reforms, in which Poulter was a key player, would massively improve healthcare. He was of course, like David Cameron, lying. Health Minister Dan Poulter is refusing to meet local representatives to discuss the funding crisis - a crisis which is being deliberately induced - a crisis for which the default remedy will be massive privatisation. If the BMA had any cojones they would strike Poulter off. In April, 2015 the NHS will loose £2bn to local government "Health and Wellbeing" Boards and local clinical commissioning groups (CCGs), as part of the £20 Billion cuts recommended by Mckinsey - money which will be siphoned off into private health facilities. * "There are about 768 hospital beds at the Royal Bolton and more than 35 wards"...But because NHS Bolton Clinical Commissioning Group, working in partnership with Bolton NHS Foundation Trust need to conform to the wishes of the politician's pals in private healthcare, private insurance, and the financial consultancy firms , they are reducing the number of beds. *"The average cost of running a ward is £1 million a year."...And that's far too much money to ask wealthy taxpayers to pay in these times of crippling austerity, so we won't be having the minimum number of nurse to each bed, as recommended by the RCN - they don't know what they're talking about anyway - Jeremy Hunt sez so. **Between 50 and 70 patients are admitted to hospital every day"....And a lot of 'em are just a bunch of old **** who don't contribute much to society, except for buying beer and fags. In fact they're nothing but a drain on the NHS bleeding it dry, and blocking NHS beds when they could be doing something useful like filling the pockets of private nursing home owners. *"The Bolton NHS Foundation Trust must save £73 million over the next five years."............. ..MUST?.....Who sez they must? Oh yes of course, McKinsey and all their pals in the UK Government. £20 Billion nationally - all by 2015. Better get rid of some NHS beds and kick the old **** out, keep 'em quiet by fillin' 'em full of pills..........my mate owns a pharmacy company - got it sorted. Cllr Linda Thomas, deputy leader of Bolton Council and chairman of the Health and Wellbeing Board, said: “As the cuts from central government continue to bite into the NHS and local government, we are having to work in a more integrated way to mitigate the situation”. More damned hypocrisy, and mealy - mouthed claptrap from the Labour Party who have betrayed the NHS and the people of Bolton. Cllr Thomas should be speaking out against the privatisation of the NHS, not facilitating its destruction. A member of staff wrote: “I have two questions. Why are the wards being closed and why has there been no discussion with staff or patients regarding the closures? And Dr. Wirin Bhatiani replied: (just joking) "Ah yes, of course; you mean the discussions / consultation / phone - ins etc etc... to which I referred at 12:18pm on Monday 12th August 2013 in the Bolton News, when I said we can’t do this alone. We need everyone to get involved and play their part in making these important decisions.” Nah you didn't really believe that load of old cobblers, do you? The often trotted out sentence: "Health and social care is set to be transformed in Bolton this year, with hospital resources being shifted into the community” really means: "Kiss good bye to the NHS in Bolton, and say Hello to Privatisation". It is the purpose of the CCGs and Monitor to enforce competition to eventually privatise all aspects of the NHS. Until the citizens of Bolton stop believing the ever growing volume of propaganda and lies being pumped out by Bolton CCG in these pages, and all the other CCGs around the country, we will continue to lose NHS facilities, such as NHS mental health, NHS maternity , and they will gradually be farmed out to private suppliers. These links will give you more idea of what Bolton CCG and CCGs across England intend for our NHS. “The people of Stafford have said loudly and clearly what they want – they want to keep their NHS hospital, which is now among the best in England. But the government, for all its talk of ‘choice’ and ‘localism’, has no intention of missing the opportunity it sees, not only to close Stafford hospital and farm services out to private companies, but to set a precedent that it can apply to other hospitals as well – and it has targeted 36% of England’s hospitals just for the first phase.” http://www.ccgwatch. org.uk/urgent-mid-st affs-nhs-administrat ors-pushing-privatis ation/ “They want to replace one ward in Bolton and another in Salford and replace them with community care, but this will leave people suffering with mental health hopelessly exposed,” said Ms Reissman. So far, the Clinical Commissioning Groups (CCGs) in Bolton and Salford say they their plans have not been affected by Trafford’s decision to pull out in the face of strong opposition. http://www.thisislan cashire.co.uk/news/1 1048528.Town_centre_ protest_____Save_our _threatened_mental_h ealth_beds___/ Puffin-Billy
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11:14am Fri 30 May 14

Puffin-Billy says...

Same old lies. They are NOT SAVINGS, THEY ARE CUTS.

This is about deliberate under funding so as to put the NHS in crisis and then get PRIVATE companies to grab the lot.

"The organisation has been told to find £13.8 million of savings this year, meaning Bury and Wigan could also lose an ambulance.
Public services union Unison has launched a petition against the proposals, and Paul Foley, the North West head of health, said there is a real fear that people might die if ambulances are lost. "

Paul....neither Cllr. Linda Thomas or the rest of the Labour Party give a monkey's.

Unless and until the public are prepared to get off their backsides, and onto the streets to make this uncomfortable for the establishment then WE WILL LOSE THE NHS.


*"The Bolton NHS Foundation Trust must save £73 million over the next five years.".............
MUST?.....Who sez they must? Oh yes of course, McKinsey and all their pals in the UK Government. £20 Billion nationally - all by 2015.
Same old lies. They are NOT SAVINGS, THEY ARE CUTS. This is about deliberate under funding so as to put the NHS in crisis and then get PRIVATE companies to grab the lot. "The organisation has been told to find £13.8 million of savings this year, meaning Bury and Wigan could also lose an ambulance. Public services union Unison has launched a petition against the proposals, and Paul Foley, the North West head of health, said there is a real fear that people might die if ambulances are lost. " Paul....neither Cllr. Linda Thomas or the rest of the Labour Party give a monkey's. Unless and until the public are prepared to get off their backsides, and onto the streets to make this uncomfortable for the establishment then WE WILL LOSE THE NHS. *"The Bolton NHS Foundation Trust must save £73 million over the next five years."............. MUST?.....Who sez they must? Oh yes of course, McKinsey and all their pals in the UK Government. £20 Billion nationally - all by 2015. Puffin-Billy
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11:17am Fri 30 May 14

Puffin-Billy says...

Sorry "Make THINGS uncomfortable"
Sorry "Make THINGS uncomfortable" Puffin-Billy
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5:48pm Fri 30 May 14

Puffin-Billy says...

catsden wrote:
MUST REMEMBER NOT TO BE TAKEN ILL IN THE NIGHT
There there. Don't you realise that the cuts in beds and ambulances are all for your own good?

David Cameron and Jeremy Hunt, will tell you so.! Don't you believe them?

And that nice Dr Jackie Bene, bless her, she who only has your interests at heart, insists that the closure of B3 was a two-part process, TWO PART mind you! done in order to speed up the assessment and discharge of patients, and that the cuts are “clinician led” .

Please believe Dr Bene if she says that the loss of 28 beds is nothing whatsoever to do with the £20 Billion cuts which are to be implemented by 2015 - or the £30 Billion that the NHS must cut......err SAVE by 2017.

I'm sure you will start to feel much better if you ignore the fact that the Care Quality Commission report that one in four hospitals are now a safety risk, but that their inspections are not allowed to count the 6,000 nursing jobs which the NHS has haemorrhaged since 2010.

And won't we all feel better when we realise that Simon Stevens, the new chief of NHS England (who wants to decentralise ie disintegrate the NHS) worked for the biggest private healthcare company in the US, and was a former health adviser to Tony Blair, and that under him he closed all those small hospitals !

How silly of you to imagine that the cuts will harm your care. As Dr Bene herself says; the cuts will actually improve patient care !
[quote][p][bold]catsden[/bold] wrote: MUST REMEMBER NOT TO BE TAKEN ILL IN THE NIGHT[/p][/quote]There there. Don't you realise that the cuts in beds and ambulances are all for your own good? David Cameron and Jeremy Hunt, will tell you so.! Don't you believe them? And that nice Dr Jackie Bene, bless her, she who only has your interests at heart, insists that the closure of B3 was a two-part process, TWO PART mind you! done in order to speed up the assessment and discharge of patients, and that the cuts are “clinician led” . Please believe Dr Bene if she says that the loss of 28 beds is nothing whatsoever to do with the £20 Billion cuts which are to be implemented by 2015 - or the £30 Billion that the NHS must cut......err SAVE by 2017. I'm sure you will start to feel much better if you ignore the fact that the Care Quality Commission report that one in four hospitals are now a safety risk, but that their inspections are not allowed to count the 6,000 nursing jobs which the NHS has haemorrhaged since 2010. And won't we all feel better when we realise that Simon Stevens, the new chief of NHS England (who wants to decentralise ie disintegrate the NHS) worked for the biggest private healthcare company in the US, and was a former health adviser to Tony Blair, and that under him he closed all those small hospitals ! How silly of you to imagine that the cuts will harm your care. As Dr Bene herself says; the cuts will actually improve patient care ! Puffin-Billy
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1:02pm Sat 7 Jun 14

cranks says...

No wonder they need to save money has anybody seen the size of these diesel guzzleing vehicles that nwas chose too buy? A 3ltr automatic mercedes spaceship is probably costing £120 a day in fuel and £120000 (yes the price of a semi detached house) to buy to transport a maximum of 4 people from incident collection point to a hospital in the greater manchester area...what was wrong with the old manual renault master they used to use why where new ones of those not bought? No doubt also there are still vast amounts of back office staff who spend all day e/mailing or phoneing colleagues boasting how there latest meal or holiday went or the small army of full time meeting attenders often known as managers who are often creaming in excess of £40k a year for doing nothing but waffle.....GET BACK TOO BASICS BEFORE ITS TO LATE......
No wonder they need to save money has anybody seen the size of these diesel guzzleing vehicles that nwas chose too buy? A 3ltr automatic mercedes spaceship is probably costing £120 a day in fuel and £120000 (yes the price of a semi detached house) to buy to transport a maximum of 4 people from incident collection point to a hospital in the greater manchester area...what was wrong with the old manual renault master they used to use why where new ones of those not bought? No doubt also there are still vast amounts of back office staff who spend all day e/mailing or phoneing colleagues boasting how there latest meal or holiday went or the small army of full time meeting attenders often known as managers who are often creaming in excess of £40k a year for doing nothing but waffle.....GET BACK TOO BASICS BEFORE ITS TO LATE...... cranks
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