Call for Horwich to leave Bolton... and become part of Chorley

Lee Lane, Horwich

Lee Lane, Horwich

First published in News The Bolton News: Photograph of the Author by , reporter

HORWICH should cut ties with Bolton and join up with neighbouring Chorley, according to a local resident.

Mick Stevens made his argument for the town moving boroughs at a meeting of Horwich Town Council.

He said: “I would like you to consider leaving Bolton and joining Chorley, I think it would be better for us, all we are getting now is built on.

"For a council made up of Labour and Liberal councillors, we don’t seem to be getting anything from Europe. As far as I know Chorley apply for everything from Europe.”

Mr Steven’s comments follow news that Chorley is taking steps to leave Lancashire County Council and go it alone as a unitary authority.

A meeting was recently held between borough leaders and Communities Secretary Eric Pickles to discuss the idea and a referendum could take place as early as next May.

Mr Stevens said that Horwich could benefit from joining Chorley if this goes ahead.

He said: “I would like us to consider this move, now that Chorley are looking to break away from Lancashire. The question is, would it be better for us to leave Bolton and be with Chorley instead?

"I think the answer is yes. There is no money coming into Horwich, we are not benefiting from all the building that is happening here.”

Responding to the suggestion, town council leader, Cllr Kevin McKeon said: “I think it is important to remember that this is a town council, within a district council.

“Were we to join up with Chorley, we would again be in the same situation as a town council within a majority council.”

The request comes after fitness industry supplier ServiceSport UK, which had been based in Bolton since it was founded in 1998, moved into bigger premises in the Chorley North Industrial park.

It was one of the first firms to move to Chorley since the Choose Chorley for Business campaign was started with the lighting of Rivington Pike, which borders Horwich and Chorley.

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6:08am Thu 31 Jul 14

oftbewildered2 says...

Does Chorley actually want Horwich?
Does Chorley actually want Horwich? oftbewildered2
  • Score: 32

7:12am Thu 31 Jul 14

XTMike says...

A lot of people seem to have voted without any consideration of costs/benefits to the inhabitants of Horwich.

The most important question I would ask would be whether the travel benefits that elderly residents of Greater Manchester have will be retained.

Currently those living in Horwich can travel right across Manchester by bus train and tram after 9.30am those in Chorley cannot,

Simply gaining a separation from Bolton's control will not necessarily be a good idea.
A lot of people seem to have voted without any consideration of costs/benefits to the inhabitants of Horwich. The most important question I would ask would be whether the travel benefits that elderly residents of Greater Manchester have will be retained. Currently those living in Horwich can travel right across Manchester by bus train and tram after 9.30am those in Chorley cannot, Simply gaining a separation from Bolton's control will not necessarily be a good idea. XTMike
  • Score: 37

7:19am Thu 31 Jul 14

Ernagy2 says...

XTMike wrote:
A lot of people seem to have voted without any consideration of costs/benefits to the inhabitants of Horwich.

The most important question I would ask would be whether the travel benefits that elderly residents of Greater Manchester have will be retained.

Currently those living in Horwich can travel right across Manchester by bus train and tram after 9.30am those in Chorley cannot,

Simply gaining a separation from Bolton's control will not necessarily be a good idea.
It would stop the grab for cash from Bolton council, who are only interested in putting houses here there and everywhere.

Westhoughton is the same. Westhoughton needs to breakaway from Bolton Council as well. Then bolton would have to rethink it's housing strategy, as it would have very little to build on other than brown field sites.
[quote][p][bold]XTMike[/bold] wrote: A lot of people seem to have voted without any consideration of costs/benefits to the inhabitants of Horwich. The most important question I would ask would be whether the travel benefits that elderly residents of Greater Manchester have will be retained. Currently those living in Horwich can travel right across Manchester by bus train and tram after 9.30am those in Chorley cannot, Simply gaining a separation from Bolton's control will not necessarily be a good idea.[/p][/quote]It would stop the grab for cash from Bolton council, who are only interested in putting houses here there and everywhere. Westhoughton is the same. Westhoughton needs to breakaway from Bolton Council as well. Then bolton would have to rethink it's housing strategy, as it would have very little to build on other than brown field sites. Ernagy2
  • Score: 14

7:46am Thu 31 Jul 14

manpol says...

Why dont we adopt the french idea and each village/area has it s own mayor who makes decisions and deals with the budgets....

I think we would get a cost saving on our council tax..... mind you they dont pay for scroungers to live in houses etc.............
Why dont we adopt the french idea and each village/area has it s own mayor who makes decisions and deals with the budgets.... I think we would get a cost saving on our council tax..... mind you they dont pay for scroungers to live in houses etc............. manpol
  • Score: 14

7:55am Thu 31 Jul 14

MissPeg says...

The grass is always greener until you get to the other side.
The grass is always greener until you get to the other side. MissPeg
  • Score: 24

8:14am Thu 31 Jul 14

goffy7167 says...

There is very little house building going on in Bolton itself, it is mostly in Horwich and Westhoughton! The loco works site will have 1700 houses built, thats a possible 5000 extra people using the already overcrowded transport system. There are no plans to upgrade/increase the roads in and around Horwich!!
As you drive through Chorley as I do regularly, you will notice well maintained roundabouts, beautiful flower baskets lining the roads,
grass verges well maintained, the roads in pretty good condition, the shopping centre and market busy, along with cheaper council tax. Chorley seems a far nicer, and better managed place! In the picture of Horwich above count how many shops are up for sale/rent in just 100 metres, I count 5! My wife had to close her own shop, not because of a lack of custom but because the overheads was just too much! Look at the mess Bolton town centre is in, and they wonder why they cant get City status!! Delapidated buildings everywhere, empty shops, how many empty multi storey carparks does Bolton need? How many houses does Bolton need? They are building houses to bring more people to Bolton, not to house the people that are already here. The Council cannot manage what they have already got, to bring in thousands more people is crazy! They need to get their own house in order first before building others!!
There is very little house building going on in Bolton itself, it is mostly in Horwich and Westhoughton! The loco works site will have 1700 houses built, thats a possible 5000 extra people using the already overcrowded transport system. There are no plans to upgrade/increase the roads in and around Horwich!! As you drive through Chorley as I do regularly, you will notice well maintained roundabouts, beautiful flower baskets lining the roads, grass verges well maintained, the roads in pretty good condition, the shopping centre and market busy, along with cheaper council tax. Chorley seems a far nicer, and better managed place! In the picture of Horwich above count how many shops are up for sale/rent in just 100 metres, I count 5! My wife had to close her own shop, not because of a lack of custom but because the overheads was just too much! Look at the mess Bolton town centre is in, and they wonder why they cant get City status!! Delapidated buildings everywhere, empty shops, how many empty multi storey carparks does Bolton need? How many houses does Bolton need? They are building houses to bring more people to Bolton, not to house the people that are already here. The Council cannot manage what they have already got, to bring in thousands more people is crazy! They need to get their own house in order first before building others!! goffy7167
  • Score: 56

8:15am Thu 31 Jul 14

billyexpat says...

Yes
Bolton would be far better without this ugly little place it is an drain on the towns coffers let Chorley have the moaning throng and all its perceived problems but I doubt they would accept the challenge that is Horwrich.
Yes Bolton would be far better without this ugly little place it is an drain on the towns coffers let Chorley have the moaning throng and all its perceived problems but I doubt they would accept the challenge that is Horwrich. billyexpat
  • Score: -49

8:17am Thu 31 Jul 14

ashey111 says...

Or maybe whilst planning for 3000 houses to be built in horwich bolton council could actually plan for some of the profit to be invested in roads schools and doctors etc. Then we would probably be happy.
Or maybe whilst planning for 3000 houses to be built in horwich bolton council could actually plan for some of the profit to be invested in roads schools and doctors etc. Then we would probably be happy. ashey111
  • Score: 34

8:18am Thu 31 Jul 14

marco999 says...

As a Horwich resident who was born here and whose roots here go back five generations I would gladly vote for anything that would stop the greedy over-development of our beautiful town. I don't want Horwich to become a big housing estate with gridlocked roads and takeaways on every corner.
As a Horwich resident who was born here and whose roots here go back five generations I would gladly vote for anything that would stop the greedy over-development of our beautiful town. I don't want Horwich to become a big housing estate with gridlocked roads and takeaways on every corner. marco999
  • Score: 55

8:39am Thu 31 Jul 14

Dave126 says...

XTMike wrote:
A lot of people seem to have voted without any consideration of costs/benefits to the inhabitants of Horwich. The most important question I would ask would be whether the travel benefits that elderly residents of Greater Manchester have will be retained. Currently those living in Horwich can travel right across Manchester by bus train and tram after 9.30am those in Chorley cannot, Simply gaining a separation from Bolton's control will not necessarily be a good idea.
The cost of train fair will rise considerably from Horich parkway if this happens. it will be under Lancs county council therefore being over the boarder of Greater Manchester. the price would be around an extra £3.00 a day (return). Is this something that is affordable to the already struggling working class person just because people dont want houses being built? (to name one of many)

my answer is NO.
[quote][p][bold]XTMike[/bold] wrote: A lot of people seem to have voted without any consideration of costs/benefits to the inhabitants of Horwich. The most important question I would ask would be whether the travel benefits that elderly residents of Greater Manchester have will be retained. Currently those living in Horwich can travel right across Manchester by bus train and tram after 9.30am those in Chorley cannot, Simply gaining a separation from Bolton's control will not necessarily be a good idea.[/p][/quote]The cost of train fair will rise considerably from Horich parkway if this happens. it will be under Lancs county council therefore being over the boarder of Greater Manchester. the price would be around an extra £3.00 a day (return). Is this something that is affordable to the already struggling working class person just because people dont want houses being built? (to name one of many) my answer is NO. Dave126
  • Score: 9

8:52am Thu 31 Jul 14

Ernagy2 says...

ashey111 wrote:
Or maybe whilst planning for 3000 houses to be built in horwich bolton council could actually plan for some of the profit to be invested in roads schools and doctors etc. Then we would probably be happy.
Ah, but you know they won't do that.
[quote][p][bold]ashey111[/bold] wrote: Or maybe whilst planning for 3000 houses to be built in horwich bolton council could actually plan for some of the profit to be invested in roads schools and doctors etc. Then we would probably be happy.[/p][/quote]Ah, but you know they won't do that. Ernagy2
  • Score: 16

8:57am Thu 31 Jul 14

Ernagy2 says...

Dave126 wrote:
XTMike wrote:
A lot of people seem to have voted without any consideration of costs/benefits to the inhabitants of Horwich. The most important question I would ask would be whether the travel benefits that elderly residents of Greater Manchester have will be retained. Currently those living in Horwich can travel right across Manchester by bus train and tram after 9.30am those in Chorley cannot, Simply gaining a separation from Bolton's control will not necessarily be a good idea.
The cost of train fair will rise considerably from Horich parkway if this happens. it will be under Lancs county council therefore being over the boarder of Greater Manchester. the price would be around an extra £3.00 a day (return). Is this something that is affordable to the already struggling working class person just because people dont want houses being built? (to name one of many)

my answer is NO.
So Build as many houses as Bolton Council wants, stack them high, and you'll vote for Labour as you're getting a cheap deal on your train ticket. When there's no land left to build on then and no countryside in the town you'll be happy.
[quote][p][bold]Dave126[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]XTMike[/bold] wrote: A lot of people seem to have voted without any consideration of costs/benefits to the inhabitants of Horwich. The most important question I would ask would be whether the travel benefits that elderly residents of Greater Manchester have will be retained. Currently those living in Horwich can travel right across Manchester by bus train and tram after 9.30am those in Chorley cannot, Simply gaining a separation from Bolton's control will not necessarily be a good idea.[/p][/quote]The cost of train fair will rise considerably from Horich parkway if this happens. it will be under Lancs county council therefore being over the boarder of Greater Manchester. the price would be around an extra £3.00 a day (return). Is this something that is affordable to the already struggling working class person just because people dont want houses being built? (to name one of many) my answer is NO.[/p][/quote]So Build as many houses as Bolton Council wants, stack them high, and you'll vote for Labour as you're getting a cheap deal on your train ticket. When there's no land left to build on then and no countryside in the town you'll be happy. Ernagy2
  • Score: 8

9:12am Thu 31 Jul 14

IvanCamposHair says...

One local resident. I read the article three times to see if I missed a reference to some campaign group he set up with 1000s of signatures but no it's just one solitary resident.

Will I get in the paper if I declare I want Halliwell to break away from Bolton and become the People's Republic of Halliwell?

Completely pointless non-story.
One local resident. I read the article three times to see if I missed a reference to some campaign group he set up with 1000s of signatures but no it's just one solitary resident. Will I get in the paper if I declare I want Halliwell to break away from Bolton and become the People's Republic of Halliwell? Completely pointless non-story. IvanCamposHair
  • Score: 32

9:19am Thu 31 Jul 14

brian jones says...

marco999 wrote:
As a Horwich resident who was born here and whose roots here go back five generations I would gladly vote for anything that would stop the greedy over-development of our beautiful town. I don't want Horwich to become a big housing estate with gridlocked roads and takeaways on every corner.
You do know Chorley is no better, don't you? Look at Buckshaw 'Village', the massive planned development on the A49, and all the garden grabbing by Wainhomes thta the council allows.
[quote][p][bold]marco999[/bold] wrote: As a Horwich resident who was born here and whose roots here go back five generations I would gladly vote for anything that would stop the greedy over-development of our beautiful town. I don't want Horwich to become a big housing estate with gridlocked roads and takeaways on every corner.[/p][/quote]You do know Chorley is no better, don't you? Look at Buckshaw 'Village', the massive planned development on the A49, and all the garden grabbing by Wainhomes thta the council allows. brian jones
  • Score: 18

9:51am Thu 31 Jul 14

SSMassive says...

Dave126 where did you learn the English language? Your words are so eloquent, the pen is indeed mightier than the sword in the right hands!
Dave126 where did you learn the English language? Your words are so eloquent, the pen is indeed mightier than the sword in the right hands! SSMassive
  • Score: 0

10:24am Thu 31 Jul 14

Trotter31 says...

billyexpat wrote:
Yes
Bolton would be far better without this ugly little place it is an drain on the towns coffers let Chorley have the moaning throng and all its perceived problems but I doubt they would accept the challenge that is Horwrich.
Horwich pay more council tax than Bolton and have less smack heads and dossers like Bolton we should leave Bolton and let it crumble with out horwich look at your council tax break down that's if you pay it
[quote][p][bold]billyexpat[/bold] wrote: Yes Bolton would be far better without this ugly little place it is an drain on the towns coffers let Chorley have the moaning throng and all its perceived problems but I doubt they would accept the challenge that is Horwrich.[/p][/quote]Horwich pay more council tax than Bolton and have less smack heads and dossers like Bolton we should leave Bolton and let it crumble with out horwich look at your council tax break down that's if you pay it Trotter31
  • Score: 23

10:43am Thu 31 Jul 14

Trotter31 says...

billyexpat wrote:
Yes
Bolton would be far better without this ugly little place it is an drain on the towns coffers let Chorley have the moaning throng and all its perceived problems but I doubt they would accept the challenge that is Horwrich.
You should look at Bolton councils tax breakdown each April and notice that Horwich and Westhoughton pay more council tax than Bolton yet all work is done in Bolton a new market that is an eye sore, new bus station and a super mosque. Why not use the money on road's, schools and jobs within the whole of Bolton borough? Why should Horwich and Westhoughton pay for projects that do not benefit the town. Horwich is nearer to Chorley and the move of these town towns joining can benefit both towns. In my opinion Bolton is ripe with drug's, high unemployment and scroungers. I've lived in Bolton many times but always come back to home Horwich because we are a strong community. Chorley is being revamped with a big new Asda and I work in Chorley. To get a council house in Chorley you have to prove that you are moving to the area to benefit the area, unlike Bolton at Home. I would like a referendum and a town hall meeting to see the views of other Horwich and Chorley residents and local/district council members
[quote][p][bold]billyexpat[/bold] wrote: Yes Bolton would be far better without this ugly little place it is an drain on the towns coffers let Chorley have the moaning throng and all its perceived problems but I doubt they would accept the challenge that is Horwrich.[/p][/quote]You should look at Bolton councils tax breakdown each April and notice that Horwich and Westhoughton pay more council tax than Bolton yet all work is done in Bolton a new market that is an eye sore, new bus station and a super mosque. Why not use the money on road's, schools and jobs within the whole of Bolton borough? Why should Horwich and Westhoughton pay for projects that do not benefit the town. Horwich is nearer to Chorley and the move of these town towns joining can benefit both towns. In my opinion Bolton is ripe with drug's, high unemployment and scroungers. I've lived in Bolton many times but always come back to home Horwich because we are a strong community. Chorley is being revamped with a big new Asda and I work in Chorley. To get a council house in Chorley you have to prove that you are moving to the area to benefit the area, unlike Bolton at Home. I would like a referendum and a town hall meeting to see the views of other Horwich and Chorley residents and local/district council members Trotter31
  • Score: 29

10:59am Thu 31 Jul 14

Tim Burr says...

"Chorley apply for everything from Europe.” Indeed they do and have been very successful. Bolton Council of course won't as it prefers to keep the residents subdued and denied opportunity.
"Chorley apply for everything from Europe.” Indeed they do and have been very successful. Bolton Council of course won't as it prefers to keep the residents subdued and denied opportunity. Tim Burr
  • Score: 24

11:24am Thu 31 Jul 14

atlas123 says...

Trotter31 wrote:
billyexpat wrote:
Yes
Bolton would be far better without this ugly little place it is an drain on the towns coffers let Chorley have the moaning throng and all its perceived problems but I doubt they would accept the challenge that is Horwrich.
You should look at Bolton councils tax breakdown each April and notice that Horwich and Westhoughton pay more council tax than Bolton yet all work is done in Bolton a new market that is an eye sore, new bus station and a super mosque. Why not use the money on road's, schools and jobs within the whole of Bolton borough? Why should Horwich and Westhoughton pay for projects that do not benefit the town. Horwich is nearer to Chorley and the move of these town towns joining can benefit both towns. In my opinion Bolton is ripe with drug's, high unemployment and scroungers. I've lived in Bolton many times but always come back to home Horwich because we are a strong community. Chorley is being revamped with a big new Asda and I work in Chorley. To get a council house in Chorley you have to prove that you are moving to the area to benefit the area, unlike Bolton at Home. I would like a referendum and a town hall meeting to see the views of other Horwich and Chorley residents and local/district council members
Ooooh Bloody hell;


Revamped with a big new Asda!!!! My word that'll draw them in!

Asda is a horrible place to shop, right at the bottom of the "supermarkets" trying to play with the budget retailers, garish colours, poor amateurish merchandising and chavvy staff, who stand around plumbed in to their ipods chewing gum.

Should Horwich Join Chorley, geographically it will be out on a limb, you will lose the advantages of being in greater Manchester, and I am yet to be convinced that any local authority is any better than the next. What about Police & Fire Services that work to council/county boundaries?

They all suffer from wasting money, its just they choose to do it in different places. Yes Bury has a better town centre, but Bury's Roads are worse than Bolton's.

I cant really see the benefit of Chorley coming out of Lancashire CC. I think it is just empire building at Chorley council, that will end up costing the taxpayer in terms of money and poorer services.
[quote][p][bold]Trotter31[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]billyexpat[/bold] wrote: Yes Bolton would be far better without this ugly little place it is an drain on the towns coffers let Chorley have the moaning throng and all its perceived problems but I doubt they would accept the challenge that is Horwrich.[/p][/quote]You should look at Bolton councils tax breakdown each April and notice that Horwich and Westhoughton pay more council tax than Bolton yet all work is done in Bolton a new market that is an eye sore, new bus station and a super mosque. Why not use the money on road's, schools and jobs within the whole of Bolton borough? Why should Horwich and Westhoughton pay for projects that do not benefit the town. Horwich is nearer to Chorley and the move of these town towns joining can benefit both towns. In my opinion Bolton is ripe with drug's, high unemployment and scroungers. I've lived in Bolton many times but always come back to home Horwich because we are a strong community. Chorley is being revamped with a big new Asda and I work in Chorley. To get a council house in Chorley you have to prove that you are moving to the area to benefit the area, unlike Bolton at Home. I would like a referendum and a town hall meeting to see the views of other Horwich and Chorley residents and local/district council members[/p][/quote]Ooooh Bloody hell; Revamped with a big new Asda!!!! My word that'll draw them in! Asda is a horrible place to shop, right at the bottom of the "supermarkets" trying to play with the budget retailers, garish colours, poor amateurish merchandising and chavvy staff, who stand around plumbed in to their ipods chewing gum. Should Horwich Join Chorley, geographically it will be out on a limb, you will lose the advantages of being in greater Manchester, and I am yet to be convinced that any local authority is any better than the next. What about Police & Fire Services that work to council/county boundaries? They all suffer from wasting money, its just they choose to do it in different places. Yes Bury has a better town centre, but Bury's Roads are worse than Bolton's. I cant really see the benefit of Chorley coming out of Lancashire CC. I think it is just empire building at Chorley council, that will end up costing the taxpayer in terms of money and poorer services. atlas123
  • Score: 0

11:29am Thu 31 Jul 14

filthy6 says...

Complete none story - whipped up by a councillor and BN on a quiet news day
Complete none story - whipped up by a councillor and BN on a quiet news day filthy6
  • Score: 7

11:34am Thu 31 Jul 14

FreedomOfSpeech1945 says...

Get out while you can before Bolton Council destroys you with new housing everywhere!! I love Horwich so much, but Bolton Council seem hell bent on making it in to a massive city with all the new development proposals!
Get out while you can before Bolton Council destroys you with new housing everywhere!! I love Horwich so much, but Bolton Council seem hell bent on making it in to a massive city with all the new development proposals! FreedomOfSpeech1945
  • Score: 10

12:14pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Waltmeister says...

Can't wait to see Bolton Wanderers playing in Chorley.
Can't wait to see Bolton Wanderers playing in Chorley. Waltmeister
  • Score: 16

12:40pm Thu 31 Jul 14

nigella farrage says...

Trotter31 wrote:
billyexpat wrote: Yes Bolton would be far better without this ugly little place it is an drain on the towns coffers let Chorley have the moaning throng and all its perceived problems but I doubt they would accept the challenge that is Horwrich.
You should look at Bolton councils tax breakdown each April and notice that Horwich and Westhoughton pay more council tax than Bolton yet all work is done in Bolton a new market that is an eye sore, new bus station and a super mosque. Why not use the money on road's, schools and jobs within the whole of Bolton borough? Why should Horwich and Westhoughton pay for projects that do not benefit the town. Horwich is nearer to Chorley and the move of these town towns joining can benefit both towns. In my opinion Bolton is ripe with drug's, high unemployment and scroungers. I've lived in Bolton many times but always come back to home Horwich because we are a strong community. Chorley is being revamped with a big new Asda and I work in Chorley. To get a council house in Chorley you have to prove that you are moving to the area to benefit the area, unlike Bolton at Home. I would like a referendum and a town hall meeting to see the views of other Horwich and Chorley residents and local/district council members
But the bus station isn't being paid for by Bolton Council - it is the TfGM who are paying for it (i.e. ALL tax payers of Greater Manchester)

As for the Super Mosque(s) - again the council are not paying for them - the money has come from the collections from within the Mosque's and the religious leaders!

Bolton at Home has no connections with Bolton COuncil except it spawned from it. Just as mcuh as Chorley Council do not do Social Housing as their unit separated and became a not-for-profit organisation, just like Bolton at Home.

But lets not get facts in the way of lies, shall we?
[quote][p][bold]Trotter31[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]billyexpat[/bold] wrote: Yes Bolton would be far better without this ugly little place it is an drain on the towns coffers let Chorley have the moaning throng and all its perceived problems but I doubt they would accept the challenge that is Horwrich.[/p][/quote]You should look at Bolton councils tax breakdown each April and notice that Horwich and Westhoughton pay more council tax than Bolton yet all work is done in Bolton a new market that is an eye sore, new bus station and a super mosque. Why not use the money on road's, schools and jobs within the whole of Bolton borough? Why should Horwich and Westhoughton pay for projects that do not benefit the town. Horwich is nearer to Chorley and the move of these town towns joining can benefit both towns. In my opinion Bolton is ripe with drug's, high unemployment and scroungers. I've lived in Bolton many times but always come back to home Horwich because we are a strong community. Chorley is being revamped with a big new Asda and I work in Chorley. To get a council house in Chorley you have to prove that you are moving to the area to benefit the area, unlike Bolton at Home. I would like a referendum and a town hall meeting to see the views of other Horwich and Chorley residents and local/district council members[/p][/quote]But the bus station isn't being paid for by Bolton Council - it is the TfGM who are paying for it (i.e. ALL tax payers of Greater Manchester) As for the Super Mosque(s) - again the council are not paying for them - the money has come from the collections from within the Mosque's and the religious leaders! Bolton at Home has no connections with Bolton COuncil except it spawned from it. Just as mcuh as Chorley Council do not do Social Housing as their unit separated and became a not-for-profit organisation, just like Bolton at Home. But lets not get facts in the way of lies, shall we? nigella farrage
  • Score: -12

2:02pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Rememberscarborough says...

Does Breightmet want to become part of Bury...
Does Breightmet want to become part of Bury... Rememberscarborough
  • Score: 11

3:53pm Thu 31 Jul 14

billyexpat says...

marco999 wrote:
As a Horwich resident who was born here and whose roots here go back five generations I would gladly vote for anything that would stop the greedy over-development of our beautiful town. I don't want Horwich to become a big housing estate with gridlocked roads and takeaways on every corner.

To late it already is!
marco999 wrote: As a Horwich resident who was born here and whose roots here go back five generations I would gladly vote for anything that would stop the greedy over-development of our beautiful town. I don't want Horwich to become a big housing estate with gridlocked roads and takeaways on every corner. To late it already is! billyexpat
  • Score: 1

4:19pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Mark Stott says...

Party political make-up of Chorley Council
Party Seats Current Council (2014)
2010 2011 2012 2014

Labour 15 20 24 32
Conservative 27 23
20 13
Independent 2 2 2 2

Lib Dems 3 2 1 0
Party political make-up of Chorley Council Party Seats Current Council (2014) 2010 2011 2012 2014 Labour 15 20 24 32 Conservative 27 23 20 13 Independent 2 2 2 2 Lib Dems 3 2 1 0 Mark Stott
  • Score: 4

5:36pm Thu 31 Jul 14

davidlpercival says...

This move probably help in the effect , of getting something done about the
state of the poor quality of roads &footpaths in side street,s of the Bateman street area. we,ve got the cobbles back, lol we are just missing the horse & carts,
This move probably help in the effect , of getting something done about the state of the poor quality of roads &footpaths in side street,s of the Bateman street area. we,ve got the cobbles back, lol we are just missing the horse & carts, davidlpercival
  • Score: 1

6:14pm Thu 31 Jul 14

heaton watcher says...

Mark Stott wrote:
Party political make-up of Chorley Council
Party Seats Current Council (2014)
2010 2011 2012 2014

Labour 15 20 24 32
Conservative 27 23

20 13
Independent 2 2 2 2


Lib Dems 3 2 1 0
Excellent! RED CHORLEY!!
[quote][p][bold]Mark Stott[/bold] wrote: Party political make-up of Chorley Council Party Seats Current Council (2014) 2010 2011 2012 2014 Labour 15 20 24 32 Conservative 27 23 20 13 Independent 2 2 2 2 Lib Dems 3 2 1 0[/p][/quote]Excellent! RED CHORLEY!! heaton watcher
  • Score: 0

6:15pm Thu 31 Jul 14

heaton watcher says...

Mark Stott wrote:
Party political make-up of Chorley Council
Party Seats Current Council (2014)
2010 2011 2012 2014

Labour 15 20 24 32
Conservative 27 23

20 13
Independent 2 2 2 2


Lib Dems 3 2 1 0
EXCELLENT - RED CHORLEY!!
[quote][p][bold]Mark Stott[/bold] wrote: Party political make-up of Chorley Council Party Seats Current Council (2014) 2010 2011 2012 2014 Labour 15 20 24 32 Conservative 27 23 20 13 Independent 2 2 2 2 Lib Dems 3 2 1 0[/p][/quote]EXCELLENT - RED CHORLEY!! heaton watcher
  • Score: -1

6:15pm Thu 31 Jul 14

ronnell_uk says...

I think the solution would be for smaller towns such as Horwich, Westhoughton, Leigh, Hindley, Atherton and Tyldesley to leave their respective boroughs and form a unitary authority not focused around or dominated by a larger town.

The population base of around 150,000 would be there to justify the creation. Their would be no need to transfer counties in respect to waste, transport, policing or fire, just more local accountability.

There would also not be the insult of being welcomed to the "Bolton" family on signposts.
I think the solution would be for smaller towns such as Horwich, Westhoughton, Leigh, Hindley, Atherton and Tyldesley to leave their respective boroughs and form a unitary authority not focused around or dominated by a larger town. The population base of around 150,000 would be there to justify the creation. Their would be no need to transfer counties in respect to waste, transport, policing or fire, just more local accountability. There would also not be the insult of being welcomed to the "Bolton" family on signposts. ronnell_uk
  • Score: 8

6:18pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Steven Chadwick says...

Horwich pays more council tax than any other part of the Borough of Bolton as it stands. It gets the least out! Horwich is constantly milked as the cash cow by Bolton, as Bolton's latest developments are yet another example! Concerns of residents are steamrolled and bulldozed, even when it means the loss of key playing fields, or concerns about health and asbestos and other chemicals, or lack of infrastructure.

Sometimnes, the cash cow needs feeding, but it is all take, take, take with Bolton, they are trying to gentrify the town and make it a Bolton overspill! Until 1974 Horwich was never apart of Bolton, Id argue the majority of people never consented to the current arrangements, indeed, we were never asked!

The time has come for Horwich to stand alone, whether that means going back to 1974 with a strong independent HORWICH Council a la the old Horwich UDC, under the auspices of Lancashire County Council.


Whether than means the western portion of the Borough all breaking away and forming a Horwich/Westhoughton
/Blackrod Borough Council (South East Lancashire/West Pennine Council!?), again under Lancashire County Council.

Whether that means joining with Chorley (in a Blackburn with Darwin type way), whilst not ideal, is a **** sight better than current arrangements! Whatever happens, the time has come to right the wrongs of the 1972 Local Government Act, and let the PEOPLE decide their own future, as they have been allowed to in Wales, and repeatedly so in Scotland. It is ridiculous to give one group of people a say over their future, yet deny another group within this same United Kingdom.

One of the criticisms of Chorley's unitary bid is that it is too small to go it alone, well with Horwich, not only would we be reunited with Rivington, we would bring another 20,000 people to the table. Horwich may yet decide to stay in Bolton, but if Eric Pickles is reading this, we should at least be given the chance to have its say in a free and fair referendum!!!
Horwich pays more council tax than any other part of the Borough of Bolton as it stands. It gets the least out! Horwich is constantly milked as the cash cow by Bolton, as Bolton's latest developments are yet another example! Concerns of residents are steamrolled and bulldozed, even when it means the loss of key playing fields, or concerns about health and asbestos and other chemicals, or lack of infrastructure. Sometimnes, the cash cow needs feeding, but it is all take, take, take with Bolton, they are trying to gentrify the town and make it a Bolton overspill! Until 1974 Horwich was never apart of Bolton, Id argue the majority of people never consented to the current arrangements, indeed, we were never asked! The time has come for Horwich to stand alone, whether that means going back to 1974 with a strong independent HORWICH Council a la the old Horwich UDC, under the auspices of Lancashire County Council. Whether than means the western portion of the Borough all breaking away and forming a Horwich/Westhoughton /Blackrod Borough Council (South East Lancashire/West Pennine Council!?), again under Lancashire County Council. Whether that means joining with Chorley (in a Blackburn with Darwin type way), whilst not ideal, is a **** sight better than current arrangements! Whatever happens, the time has come to right the wrongs of the 1972 Local Government Act, and let the PEOPLE decide their own future, as they have been allowed to in Wales, and repeatedly so in Scotland. It is ridiculous to give one group of people a say over their future, yet deny another group within this same United Kingdom. One of the criticisms of Chorley's unitary bid is that it is too small to go it alone, well with Horwich, not only would we be reunited with Rivington, we would bring another 20,000 people to the table. Horwich may yet decide to stay in Bolton, but if Eric Pickles is reading this, we should at least be given the chance to have its say in a free and fair referendum!!! Steven Chadwick
  • Score: 7

6:54pm Thu 31 Jul 14

catsden says...

Trotter31 wrote:
billyexpat wrote:
Yes
Bolton would be far better without this ugly little place it is an drain on the towns coffers let Chorley have the moaning throng and all its perceived problems but I doubt they would accept the challenge that is Horwrich.
Horwich pay more council tax than Bolton and have less smack heads and dossers like Bolton we should leave Bolton and let it crumble with out horwich look at your council tax break down that's if you pay it
Where ever you are billyexpat. Horwich is far better than Bolton, we for one pay more Council Tax, you sound a nasty individual and a SNOB, I agree with Trotter 31. you MORON, just thank God you don't live in Horwich You must be bitter because Horwich is far better than Bolton, lovely countryside 5 minutes away, It is Bolton Council that is wasting our money, Horwich get nothing, only building more houses which WE DON'T want, I think Horwich should be like it use to be Horwich Council, not Bolton
[quote][p][bold]Trotter31[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]billyexpat[/bold] wrote: Yes Bolton would be far better without this ugly little place it is an drain on the towns coffers let Chorley have the moaning throng and all its perceived problems but I doubt they would accept the challenge that is Horwrich.[/p][/quote]Horwich pay more council tax than Bolton and have less smack heads and dossers like Bolton we should leave Bolton and let it crumble with out horwich look at your council tax break down that's if you pay it[/p][/quote]Where ever you are billyexpat. Horwich is far better than Bolton, we for one pay more Council Tax, you sound a nasty individual and a SNOB, I agree with Trotter 31. you MORON, just thank God you don't live in Horwich You must be bitter because Horwich is far better than Bolton, lovely countryside 5 minutes away, It is Bolton Council that is wasting our money, Horwich get nothing, only building more houses which WE DON'T want, I think Horwich should be like it use to be Horwich Council, not Bolton catsden
  • Score: 4

7:01pm Thu 31 Jul 14

AndyMorton says...

Chorley wanderers haha sounds as bad as they play
Chorley wanderers haha sounds as bad as they play AndyMorton
  • Score: -3

7:05pm Thu 31 Jul 14

ronnell_uk says...

Horwich should be at least grateful that it gets investment at Middlebrook and has a decent leisure centre. In Westhoughton we get nothing.

Bolton council even moved the Westhoughton signposts at Four Lane Ends and put them a mile back to Chequerbent roundabout in a cracking land grab for Over Hulton.
Horwich should be at least grateful that it gets investment at Middlebrook and has a decent leisure centre. In Westhoughton we get nothing. Bolton council even moved the Westhoughton signposts at Four Lane Ends and put them a mile back to Chequerbent roundabout in a cracking land grab for Over Hulton. ronnell_uk
  • Score: 3

8:40pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Steven Chadwick says...

ronnell_uk wrote:
Horwich should be at least grateful that it gets investment at Middlebrook and has a decent leisure centre. In Westhoughton we get nothing.

Bolton council even moved the Westhoughton signposts at Four Lane Ends and put them a mile back to Chequerbent roundabout in a cracking land grab for Over Hulton.
Horwich has a decent leisure centre? Have you seen it since Serco took over? It is being run down and down!!!
[quote][p][bold]ronnell_uk[/bold] wrote: Horwich should be at least grateful that it gets investment at Middlebrook and has a decent leisure centre. In Westhoughton we get nothing. Bolton council even moved the Westhoughton signposts at Four Lane Ends and put them a mile back to Chequerbent roundabout in a cracking land grab for Over Hulton.[/p][/quote]Horwich has a decent leisure centre? Have you seen it since Serco took over? It is being run down and down!!! Steven Chadwick
  • Score: 6

8:43pm Thu 31 Jul 14

billyexpat says...

catsden wrote:
Trotter31 wrote:
billyexpat wrote:
Yes
Bolton would be far better without this ugly little place it is an drain on the towns coffers let Chorley have the moaning throng and all its perceived problems but I doubt they would accept the challenge that is Horwrich.
Horwich pay more council tax than Bolton and have less smack heads and dossers like Bolton we should leave Bolton and let it crumble with out horwich look at your council tax break down that's if you pay it
Where ever you are billyexpat. Horwich is far better than Bolton, we for one pay more Council Tax, you sound a nasty individual and a SNOB, I agree with Trotter 31. you MORON, just thank God you don't live in Horwich You must be bitter because Horwich is far better than Bolton, lovely countryside 5 minutes away, It is Bolton Council that is wasting our money, Horwich get nothing, only building more houses which WE DON'T want, I think Horwich should be like it use to be Horwich Council, not Bolton
"just thank God you don't live in Horwich"

You said it Catsden!! And I Do

It was never a nice place even in the 60s/70s when I had the task of administering to the sick viewers of that place I seem to remember Horwich used to be called Burglars Paradise

When I move back to the place of my birth, Horwich will not be on my property viewing shortlist. There are much more welcoming places around our wonderful Town of Bolton
So Catsden you have no need to worry yourself this "bitter nasty moronistic SNOB" will not be walking your streets and paying your high councill tax I will look at Bromley Cross now that,s the place to live currently in the top 20 places to live in England.
Wonder what position Horwich is?
[quote][p][bold]catsden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Trotter31[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]billyexpat[/bold] wrote: Yes Bolton would be far better without this ugly little place it is an drain on the towns coffers let Chorley have the moaning throng and all its perceived problems but I doubt they would accept the challenge that is Horwrich.[/p][/quote]Horwich pay more council tax than Bolton and have less smack heads and dossers like Bolton we should leave Bolton and let it crumble with out horwich look at your council tax break down that's if you pay it[/p][/quote]Where ever you are billyexpat. Horwich is far better than Bolton, we for one pay more Council Tax, you sound a nasty individual and a SNOB, I agree with Trotter 31. you MORON, just thank God you don't live in Horwich You must be bitter because Horwich is far better than Bolton, lovely countryside 5 minutes away, It is Bolton Council that is wasting our money, Horwich get nothing, only building more houses which WE DON'T want, I think Horwich should be like it use to be Horwich Council, not Bolton[/p][/quote]"just thank God you don't live in Horwich" You said it Catsden!! And I Do It was never a nice place even in the 60s/70s when I had the task of administering to the sick viewers of that place I seem to remember Horwich used to be called Burglars Paradise When I move back to the place of my birth, Horwich will not be on my property viewing shortlist. There are much more welcoming places around our wonderful Town of Bolton So Catsden you have no need to worry yourself this "bitter nasty moronistic SNOB" will not be walking your streets and paying your high councill tax I will look at Bromley Cross now that,s the place to live currently in the top 20 places to live in England. Wonder what position Horwich is? billyexpat
  • Score: -1

8:43pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Steven Chadwick says...

ronnell_uk wrote:
Horwich should be at least grateful that it gets investment at Middlebrook and has a decent leisure centre. In Westhoughton we get nothing.

Bolton council even moved the Westhoughton signposts at Four Lane Ends and put them a mile back to Chequerbent roundabout in a cracking land grab for Over Hulton.
The 'Welcome to Horwich' signs seem to be moving further away from the M61 and closer to the Beehive. New roadsigns welcoming you to my town would suggest Middlebrook, and the stadium development are no longer in Horwich!
[quote][p][bold]ronnell_uk[/bold] wrote: Horwich should be at least grateful that it gets investment at Middlebrook and has a decent leisure centre. In Westhoughton we get nothing. Bolton council even moved the Westhoughton signposts at Four Lane Ends and put them a mile back to Chequerbent roundabout in a cracking land grab for Over Hulton.[/p][/quote]The 'Welcome to Horwich' signs seem to be moving further away from the M61 and closer to the Beehive. New roadsigns welcoming you to my town would suggest Middlebrook, and the stadium development are no longer in Horwich! Steven Chadwick
  • Score: 1

8:52pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Ernagy2 says...

ronnell_uk wrote:
I think the solution would be for smaller towns such as Horwich, Westhoughton, Leigh, Hindley, Atherton and Tyldesley to leave their respective boroughs and form a unitary authority not focused around or dominated by a larger town.

The population base of around 150,000 would be there to justify the creation. Their would be no need to transfer counties in respect to waste, transport, policing or fire, just more local accountability.

There would also not be the insult of being welcomed to the "Bolton" family on signposts.
If the tories get in next time Westhoughton could be part of Leigh with a separate constituency from Wigan or Bolton.

Though I'd welcome Westhoughton joining up with Horwich and Chorley. The land grabbing from bolton Council might just stop.
[quote][p][bold]ronnell_uk[/bold] wrote: I think the solution would be for smaller towns such as Horwich, Westhoughton, Leigh, Hindley, Atherton and Tyldesley to leave their respective boroughs and form a unitary authority not focused around or dominated by a larger town. The population base of around 150,000 would be there to justify the creation. Their would be no need to transfer counties in respect to waste, transport, policing or fire, just more local accountability. There would also not be the insult of being welcomed to the "Bolton" family on signposts.[/p][/quote]If the tories get in next time Westhoughton could be part of Leigh with a separate constituency from Wigan or Bolton. Though I'd welcome Westhoughton joining up with Horwich and Chorley. The land grabbing from bolton Council might just stop. Ernagy2
  • Score: 4

8:57pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Snakestail says...

It was also said in this article that Chorley want to separate from Lancashire, great so who will pay for the police force and the fire brigade once Chorley go independent? They aren't going to be in Lancashire anymore or greater Manchester or Cheshire they will be in no man's land. And they get European funding just now but with the devolution issue of Scotland, The European Parliament said they would be highly unlikely to support Scotland as an independent or offer them the euro because they feel Scotland breaking from the Union goes against the ideals of the European Parliament. Well isn't that going to happen to Chorley as well? They want to break away from their own County yet still get European support and fire and policing services, Talk about having your cake and eating it. And now Horwich wants a slice of the cake too so that will be less for Chorley to have. As for the pretty town of Chorley, well, Has anyone any idea just how many residents rely on the Chorley budget? How many Police and Fire fighters does it maintain, compare that to Bolton and see if there is a reason why Chorley can afford flowers and Bolton can not. Yes Bolton Council is an overweight bloated monster that wastes money on stupid projects, and Chorley is a smaller version with a tighter budget so they must concentrate on reducing waste, something Bolton council seem unable to grasp the concept of yet. So by all means go ahead and break free of the yoke of tyranny then watch as your Euro money dries up, your overheads go through the roof when you have to pay for your own Fire and Police forces, increased travel costs, housing and highways maintenance and also the restrictions on local governments that Central government imposes, (Budgets, austerity measures, manpower limits) and you may even have to house some immigrants if the central government say you have to share the burden. Enjoy your independence then Chorley and Horwich, You wanted it.
It was also said in this article that Chorley want to separate from Lancashire, great so who will pay for the police force and the fire brigade once Chorley go independent? They aren't going to be in Lancashire anymore or greater Manchester or Cheshire they will be in no man's land. And they get European funding just now but with the devolution issue of Scotland, The European Parliament said they would be highly unlikely to support Scotland as an independent or offer them the euro because they feel Scotland breaking from the Union goes against the ideals of the European Parliament. Well isn't that going to happen to Chorley as well? They want to break away from their own County yet still get European support and fire and policing services, Talk about having your cake and eating it. And now Horwich wants a slice of the cake too so that will be less for Chorley to have. As for the pretty town of Chorley, well, Has anyone any idea just how many residents rely on the Chorley budget? How many Police and Fire fighters does it maintain, compare that to Bolton and see if there is a reason why Chorley can afford flowers and Bolton can not. Yes Bolton Council is an overweight bloated monster that wastes money on stupid projects, and Chorley is a smaller version with a tighter budget so they must concentrate on reducing waste, something Bolton council seem unable to grasp the concept of yet. So by all means go ahead and break free of the yoke of tyranny then watch as your Euro money dries up, your overheads go through the roof when you have to pay for your own Fire and Police forces, increased travel costs, housing and highways maintenance and also the restrictions on local governments that Central government imposes, (Budgets, austerity measures, manpower limits) and you may even have to house some immigrants if the central government say you have to share the burden. Enjoy your independence then Chorley and Horwich, You wanted it. Snakestail
  • Score: 0

11:21pm Thu 31 Jul 14

nomore352 says...

The Macron stadium is in Bolton so no chance of going to Chorley!
I
The Macron stadium is in Bolton so no chance of going to Chorley! I nomore352
  • Score: 2

11:48pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Steven Chadwick says...

Snakestail wrote:
It was also said in this article that Chorley want to separate from Lancashire, great so who will pay for the police force and the fire brigade once Chorley go independent? They aren't going to be in Lancashire anymore or greater Manchester or Cheshire they will be in no man's land. And they get European funding just now but with the devolution issue of Scotland, The European Parliament said they would be highly unlikely to support Scotland as an independent or offer them the euro because they feel Scotland breaking from the Union goes against the ideals of the European Parliament. Well isn't that going to happen to Chorley as well? They want to break away from their own County yet still get European support and fire and policing services, Talk about having your cake and eating it. And now Horwich wants a slice of the cake too so that will be less for Chorley to have. As for the pretty town of Chorley, well, Has anyone any idea just how many residents rely on the Chorley budget? How many Police and Fire fighters does it maintain, compare that to Bolton and see if there is a reason why Chorley can afford flowers and Bolton can not. Yes Bolton Council is an overweight bloated monster that wastes money on stupid projects, and Chorley is a smaller version with a tighter budget so they must concentrate on reducing waste, something Bolton council seem unable to grasp the concept of yet. So by all means go ahead and break free of the yoke of tyranny then watch as your Euro money dries up, your overheads go through the roof when you have to pay for your own Fire and Police forces, increased travel costs, housing and highways maintenance and also the restrictions on local governments that Central government imposes, (Budgets, austerity measures, manpower limits) and you may even have to house some immigrants if the central government say you have to share the burden. Enjoy your independence then Chorley and Horwich, You wanted it.
It depends what you mean 'Lancashire,' Chorley is not leaving the county of 'Lancashire,' it merely wants to be a unitary authority, free of Lancashire County Council control, there is a difference. It will still very much be within the county of Lancashire, much like Blackpool and Blackburn with Darwin are, it merely wants to run its own affairs! Why would policing and fire services be affected?
[quote][p][bold]Snakestail[/bold] wrote: It was also said in this article that Chorley want to separate from Lancashire, great so who will pay for the police force and the fire brigade once Chorley go independent? They aren't going to be in Lancashire anymore or greater Manchester or Cheshire they will be in no man's land. And they get European funding just now but with the devolution issue of Scotland, The European Parliament said they would be highly unlikely to support Scotland as an independent or offer them the euro because they feel Scotland breaking from the Union goes against the ideals of the European Parliament. Well isn't that going to happen to Chorley as well? They want to break away from their own County yet still get European support and fire and policing services, Talk about having your cake and eating it. And now Horwich wants a slice of the cake too so that will be less for Chorley to have. As for the pretty town of Chorley, well, Has anyone any idea just how many residents rely on the Chorley budget? How many Police and Fire fighters does it maintain, compare that to Bolton and see if there is a reason why Chorley can afford flowers and Bolton can not. Yes Bolton Council is an overweight bloated monster that wastes money on stupid projects, and Chorley is a smaller version with a tighter budget so they must concentrate on reducing waste, something Bolton council seem unable to grasp the concept of yet. So by all means go ahead and break free of the yoke of tyranny then watch as your Euro money dries up, your overheads go through the roof when you have to pay for your own Fire and Police forces, increased travel costs, housing and highways maintenance and also the restrictions on local governments that Central government imposes, (Budgets, austerity measures, manpower limits) and you may even have to house some immigrants if the central government say you have to share the burden. Enjoy your independence then Chorley and Horwich, You wanted it.[/p][/quote]It depends what you mean 'Lancashire,' Chorley is not leaving the county of 'Lancashire,' it merely wants to be a unitary authority, free of Lancashire County Council control, there is a difference. It will still very much be within the county of Lancashire, much like Blackpool and Blackburn with Darwin are, it merely wants to run its own affairs! Why would policing and fire services be affected? Steven Chadwick
  • Score: 2

2:35am Fri 1 Aug 14

mr.mark.c says...

I live in Kearsley and wonder if we should be Salford, then I look the other way and see farnworth, talk about being between a rock and a hard place jeesh.
I live in Kearsley and wonder if we should be Salford, then I look the other way and see farnworth, talk about being between a rock and a hard place jeesh. mr.mark.c
  • Score: 10

8:06am Fri 1 Aug 14

Ernagy2 says...

Steven Chadwick wrote:
Snakestail wrote:
It was also said in this article that Chorley want to separate from Lancashire, great so who will pay for the police force and the fire brigade once Chorley go independent? They aren't going to be in Lancashire anymore or greater Manchester or Cheshire they will be in no man's land. And they get European funding just now but with the devolution issue of Scotland, The European Parliament said they would be highly unlikely to support Scotland as an independent or offer them the euro because they feel Scotland breaking from the Union goes against the ideals of the European Parliament. Well isn't that going to happen to Chorley as well? They want to break away from their own County yet still get European support and fire and policing services, Talk about having your cake and eating it. And now Horwich wants a slice of the cake too so that will be less for Chorley to have. As for the pretty town of Chorley, well, Has anyone any idea just how many residents rely on the Chorley budget? How many Police and Fire fighters does it maintain, compare that to Bolton and see if there is a reason why Chorley can afford flowers and Bolton can not. Yes Bolton Council is an overweight bloated monster that wastes money on stupid projects, and Chorley is a smaller version with a tighter budget so they must concentrate on reducing waste, something Bolton council seem unable to grasp the concept of yet. So by all means go ahead and break free of the yoke of tyranny then watch as your Euro money dries up, your overheads go through the roof when you have to pay for your own Fire and Police forces, increased travel costs, housing and highways maintenance and also the restrictions on local governments that Central government imposes, (Budgets, austerity measures, manpower limits) and you may even have to house some immigrants if the central government say you have to share the burden. Enjoy your independence then Chorley and Horwich, You wanted it.
It depends what you mean 'Lancashire,' Chorley is not leaving the county of 'Lancashire,' it merely wants to be a unitary authority, free of Lancashire County Council control, there is a difference. It will still very much be within the county of Lancashire, much like Blackpool and Blackburn with Darwin are, it merely wants to run its own affairs! Why would policing and fire services be affected?
Also Warrington is a unitary authority, it still gets it's fire and ambulance services. Nonsense to suggest otherwise. Life goes on.
[quote][p][bold]Steven Chadwick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Snakestail[/bold] wrote: It was also said in this article that Chorley want to separate from Lancashire, great so who will pay for the police force and the fire brigade once Chorley go independent? They aren't going to be in Lancashire anymore or greater Manchester or Cheshire they will be in no man's land. And they get European funding just now but with the devolution issue of Scotland, The European Parliament said they would be highly unlikely to support Scotland as an independent or offer them the euro because they feel Scotland breaking from the Union goes against the ideals of the European Parliament. Well isn't that going to happen to Chorley as well? They want to break away from their own County yet still get European support and fire and policing services, Talk about having your cake and eating it. And now Horwich wants a slice of the cake too so that will be less for Chorley to have. As for the pretty town of Chorley, well, Has anyone any idea just how many residents rely on the Chorley budget? How many Police and Fire fighters does it maintain, compare that to Bolton and see if there is a reason why Chorley can afford flowers and Bolton can not. Yes Bolton Council is an overweight bloated monster that wastes money on stupid projects, and Chorley is a smaller version with a tighter budget so they must concentrate on reducing waste, something Bolton council seem unable to grasp the concept of yet. So by all means go ahead and break free of the yoke of tyranny then watch as your Euro money dries up, your overheads go through the roof when you have to pay for your own Fire and Police forces, increased travel costs, housing and highways maintenance and also the restrictions on local governments that Central government imposes, (Budgets, austerity measures, manpower limits) and you may even have to house some immigrants if the central government say you have to share the burden. Enjoy your independence then Chorley and Horwich, You wanted it.[/p][/quote]It depends what you mean 'Lancashire,' Chorley is not leaving the county of 'Lancashire,' it merely wants to be a unitary authority, free of Lancashire County Council control, there is a difference. It will still very much be within the county of Lancashire, much like Blackpool and Blackburn with Darwin are, it merely wants to run its own affairs! Why would policing and fire services be affected?[/p][/quote]Also Warrington is a unitary authority, it still gets it's fire and ambulance services. Nonsense to suggest otherwise. Life goes on. Ernagy2
  • Score: 2

8:07am Fri 1 Aug 14

Ernagy2 says...

mr.mark.c wrote:
I live in Kearsley and wonder if we should be Salford, then I look the other way and see farnworth, talk about being between a rock and a hard place jeesh.
Know what you mean Mark. Perhaps independence for Kearsley? (lol)
[quote][p][bold]mr.mark.c[/bold] wrote: I live in Kearsley and wonder if we should be Salford, then I look the other way and see farnworth, talk about being between a rock and a hard place jeesh.[/p][/quote]Know what you mean Mark. Perhaps independence for Kearsley? (lol) Ernagy2
  • Score: 3

8:42am Fri 1 Aug 14

Ernagy2 says...

All those that say their train ticket would be more expensive, could drive to Lostock, where a multi storey car park could be built to house all the cars.
All those that say their train ticket would be more expensive, could drive to Lostock, where a multi storey car park could be built to house all the cars. Ernagy2
  • Score: 1

9:41am Fri 1 Aug 14

Hulton Park says...

Steven Chadwick wrote:
ronnell_uk wrote: Horwich should be at least grateful that it gets investment at Middlebrook and has a decent leisure centre. In Westhoughton we get nothing. Bolton council even moved the Westhoughton signposts at Four Lane Ends and put them a mile back to Chequerbent roundabout in a cracking land grab for Over Hulton.
The 'Welcome to Horwich' signs seem to be moving further away from the M61 and closer to the Beehive. New roadsigns welcoming you to my town would suggest Middlebrook, and the stadium development are no longer in Horwich!
Most of Middlebrook isn't in Horwich, and never has been. It falls within the boundaries of Lostock (including the Macron stadium and "Horwich" Parkway station) - part of the old County Borough of Bolton even before 1974.

As for the old "Westhoughton" sign at Hulton Lane Ends: that just indicated where the UDC's writ ran between 1898 and 1974, when Westhoughton council took over part of Over Hulton from the abolished Bolton Rural District. Over Hulton is not historically part of Westhoughton. The two were separate townships within the Deane parish.
[quote][p][bold]Steven Chadwick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ronnell_uk[/bold] wrote: Horwich should be at least grateful that it gets investment at Middlebrook and has a decent leisure centre. In Westhoughton we get nothing. Bolton council even moved the Westhoughton signposts at Four Lane Ends and put them a mile back to Chequerbent roundabout in a cracking land grab for Over Hulton.[/p][/quote]The 'Welcome to Horwich' signs seem to be moving further away from the M61 and closer to the Beehive. New roadsigns welcoming you to my town would suggest Middlebrook, and the stadium development are no longer in Horwich![/p][/quote]Most of Middlebrook isn't in Horwich, and never has been. It falls within the boundaries of Lostock (including the Macron stadium and "Horwich" Parkway station) - part of the old County Borough of Bolton even before 1974. As for the old "Westhoughton" sign at Hulton Lane Ends: that just indicated where the UDC's writ ran between 1898 and 1974, when Westhoughton council took over part of Over Hulton from the abolished Bolton Rural District. Over Hulton is not historically part of Westhoughton. The two were separate townships within the Deane parish. Hulton Park
  • Score: 0

9:58am Fri 1 Aug 14

MarcoMountain says...

atlas123 wrote:
Trotter31 wrote:
billyexpat wrote:
Yes
Bolton would be far better without this ugly little place it is an drain on the towns coffers let Chorley have the moaning throng and all its perceived problems but I doubt they would accept the challenge that is Horwrich.
You should look at Bolton councils tax breakdown each April and notice that Horwich and Westhoughton pay more council tax than Bolton yet all work is done in Bolton a new market that is an eye sore, new bus station and a super mosque. Why not use the money on road's, schools and jobs within the whole of Bolton borough? Why should Horwich and Westhoughton pay for projects that do not benefit the town. Horwich is nearer to Chorley and the move of these town towns joining can benefit both towns. In my opinion Bolton is ripe with drug's, high unemployment and scroungers. I've lived in Bolton many times but always come back to home Horwich because we are a strong community. Chorley is being revamped with a big new Asda and I work in Chorley. To get a council house in Chorley you have to prove that you are moving to the area to benefit the area, unlike Bolton at Home. I would like a referendum and a town hall meeting to see the views of other Horwich and Chorley residents and local/district council members
Ooooh Bloody hell;


Revamped with a big new Asda!!!! My word that'll draw them in!

Asda is a horrible place to shop, right at the bottom of the "supermarkets" trying to play with the budget retailers, garish colours, poor amateurish merchandising and chavvy staff, who stand around plumbed in to their ipods chewing gum.

Should Horwich Join Chorley, geographically it will be out on a limb, you will lose the advantages of being in greater Manchester, and I am yet to be convinced that any local authority is any better than the next. What about Police & Fire Services that work to council/county boundaries?

They all suffer from wasting money, its just they choose to do it in different places. Yes Bury has a better town centre, but Bury's Roads are worse than Bolton's.

I cant really see the benefit of Chorley coming out of Lancashire CC. I think it is just empire building at Chorley council, that will end up costing the taxpayer in terms of money and poorer services.
"Bury has a better town centre" Ha Ha what tosh. I went to Bury after hearing how great it is. Couldn't believe it, what a S hole. Full of electronic cigarette shops and drunks. Maybe I was expecting to much. Bolton's town hall and overall infrastructure along with the pedestrianisation make it a much better place to shop. Unfortunately, the council leaders are absolutely clueless. How much do they get paid? Way too much! Makes me laugh when we are told you've got to pay for the best. Bolton often get other towns castoffs.
[quote][p][bold]atlas123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Trotter31[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]billyexpat[/bold] wrote: Yes Bolton would be far better without this ugly little place it is an drain on the towns coffers let Chorley have the moaning throng and all its perceived problems but I doubt they would accept the challenge that is Horwrich.[/p][/quote]You should look at Bolton councils tax breakdown each April and notice that Horwich and Westhoughton pay more council tax than Bolton yet all work is done in Bolton a new market that is an eye sore, new bus station and a super mosque. Why not use the money on road's, schools and jobs within the whole of Bolton borough? Why should Horwich and Westhoughton pay for projects that do not benefit the town. Horwich is nearer to Chorley and the move of these town towns joining can benefit both towns. In my opinion Bolton is ripe with drug's, high unemployment and scroungers. I've lived in Bolton many times but always come back to home Horwich because we are a strong community. Chorley is being revamped with a big new Asda and I work in Chorley. To get a council house in Chorley you have to prove that you are moving to the area to benefit the area, unlike Bolton at Home. I would like a referendum and a town hall meeting to see the views of other Horwich and Chorley residents and local/district council members[/p][/quote]Ooooh Bloody hell; Revamped with a big new Asda!!!! My word that'll draw them in! Asda is a horrible place to shop, right at the bottom of the "supermarkets" trying to play with the budget retailers, garish colours, poor amateurish merchandising and chavvy staff, who stand around plumbed in to their ipods chewing gum. Should Horwich Join Chorley, geographically it will be out on a limb, you will lose the advantages of being in greater Manchester, and I am yet to be convinced that any local authority is any better than the next. What about Police & Fire Services that work to council/county boundaries? They all suffer from wasting money, its just they choose to do it in different places. Yes Bury has a better town centre, but Bury's Roads are worse than Bolton's. I cant really see the benefit of Chorley coming out of Lancashire CC. I think it is just empire building at Chorley council, that will end up costing the taxpayer in terms of money and poorer services.[/p][/quote]"Bury has a better town centre" Ha Ha what tosh. I went to Bury after hearing how great it is. Couldn't believe it, what a S hole. Full of electronic cigarette shops and drunks. Maybe I was expecting to much. Bolton's town hall and overall infrastructure along with the pedestrianisation make it a much better place to shop. Unfortunately, the council leaders are absolutely clueless. How much do they get paid? Way too much! Makes me laugh when we are told you've got to pay for the best. Bolton often get other towns castoffs. MarcoMountain
  • Score: 1

9:58am Fri 1 Aug 14

MarcoMountain says...

atlas123 wrote:
Trotter31 wrote:
billyexpat wrote:
Yes
Bolton would be far better without this ugly little place it is an drain on the towns coffers let Chorley have the moaning throng and all its perceived problems but I doubt they would accept the challenge that is Horwrich.You should look at Bolton councils tax breakdown each April and notice that Horwich and Westhoughton pay more council tax than Bolton yet all work is done in Bolton a new market that is an eye sore, new bus station and a super mosque. Why not use the money on road's, schools and jobs within the whole of Bolton borough? Why should Horwich and Westhoughton pay for projects that do not benefit the town. Horwich is nearer to Chorley and the move of these town towns joining can benefit both towns. In my opinion Bolton is ripe with drug's, high unemployment and scroungers. I've lived in Bolton many times but always come back to home Horwich because we are a strong community. Chorley is being revamped with a big new Asda and I work in Chorley. To get a council house in Chorley you have to prove that you are moving to the area to benefit the area, unlike Bolton at Home. I would like a referendum and a town hall meeting to see the views of other Horwich and Chorley residents and local/district council membersOoooh Bloody hell;


Revamped with a big new Asda!!!! My word that'll draw them in!

Asda is a horrible place to shop, right at the bottom of the "supermarkets"Bury has a better town centre" Ha Ha what tosh. I went to Bury after hearing how great it is. Couldn't believe it, what a S hole. Full of electronic cigarette shops and drunks. Maybe I was expecting to much. Bolton's town hall and overall infrastructure along with the pedestrianisation make it a much better place to shop. Unfortunately, the council leaders are absolutely clueless. How much do they get paid? Way too much! Makes me laugh when we are told you've got to pay for the best. Bolton often get other towns castoffs.
[quote][p][bold]atlas123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Trotter31[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]billyexpat[/bold] wrote: Yes Bolton would be far better without this ugly little place it is an drain on the towns coffers let Chorley have the moaning throng and all its perceived problems but I doubt they would accept the challenge that is Horwrich.[/p][/quote]You should look at Bolton councils tax breakdown each April and notice that Horwich and Westhoughton pay more council tax than Bolton yet all work is done in Bolton a new market that is an eye sore, new bus station and a super mosque. Why not use the money on road's, schools and jobs within the whole of Bolton borough? Why should Horwich and Westhoughton pay for projects that do not benefit the town. Horwich is nearer to Chorley and the move of these town towns joining can benefit both towns. In my opinion Bolton is ripe with drug's, high unemployment and scroungers. I've lived in Bolton many times but always come back to home Horwich because we are a strong community. Chorley is being revamped with a big new Asda and I work in Chorley. To get a council house in Chorley you have to prove that you are moving to the area to benefit the area, unlike Bolton at Home. I would like a referendum and a town hall meeting to see the views of other Horwich and Chorley residents and local/district council members[/p][/quote]Ooooh Bloody hell; Revamped with a big new Asda!!!! My word that'll draw them in! Asda is a horrible place to shop, right at the bottom of the "supermarkets"Bury has a better town centre" Ha Ha what tosh. I went to Bury after hearing how great it is. Couldn't believe it, what a S hole. Full of electronic cigarette shops and drunks. Maybe I was expecting to much. Bolton's town hall and overall infrastructure along with the pedestrianisation make it a much better place to shop. Unfortunately, the council leaders are absolutely clueless. How much do they get paid? Way too much! Makes me laugh when we are told you've got to pay for the best. Bolton often get other towns castoffs. MarcoMountain
  • Score: 0

10:00am Fri 1 Aug 14

filthy6 says...

Steven Chadwick wrote:
ronnell_uk wrote: Horwich should be at least grateful that it gets investment at Middlebrook and has a decent leisure centre. In Westhoughton we get nothing. Bolton council even moved the Westhoughton signposts at Four Lane Ends and put them a mile back to Chequerbent roundabout in a cracking land grab for Over Hulton.
Horwich has a decent leisure centre? Have you seen it since Serco took over? It is being run down and down!!!
Leisure Centre was paid for before Bolton took over in '74.
Rumours of it being shut down too....
[quote][p][bold]Steven Chadwick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ronnell_uk[/bold] wrote: Horwich should be at least grateful that it gets investment at Middlebrook and has a decent leisure centre. In Westhoughton we get nothing. Bolton council even moved the Westhoughton signposts at Four Lane Ends and put them a mile back to Chequerbent roundabout in a cracking land grab for Over Hulton.[/p][/quote]Horwich has a decent leisure centre? Have you seen it since Serco took over? It is being run down and down!!![/p][/quote]Leisure Centre was paid for before Bolton took over in '74. Rumours of it being shut down too.... filthy6
  • Score: 2

12:21pm Fri 1 Aug 14

johnnyjackson says...

Trotter31 wrote:
billyexpat wrote:
Yes
Bolton would be far better without this ugly little place it is an drain on the towns coffers let Chorley have the moaning throng and all its perceived problems but I doubt they would accept the challenge that is Horwrich.
Horwich pay more council tax than Bolton and have less smack heads and dossers like Bolton we should leave Bolton and let it crumble with out horwich look at your council tax break down that's if you pay it
Horwich has more unemployed than Bolton. More council estates as well on ratio basis.
[quote][p][bold]Trotter31[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]billyexpat[/bold] wrote: Yes Bolton would be far better without this ugly little place it is an drain on the towns coffers let Chorley have the moaning throng and all its perceived problems but I doubt they would accept the challenge that is Horwrich.[/p][/quote]Horwich pay more council tax than Bolton and have less smack heads and dossers like Bolton we should leave Bolton and let it crumble with out horwich look at your council tax break down that's if you pay it[/p][/quote]Horwich has more unemployed than Bolton. More council estates as well on ratio basis. johnnyjackson
  • Score: 0

12:52pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Reality50 says...

I would like Farnworth and Kearsley to come under Salford. Yes i know Salford is also Labour controlled,but at least it rejects mosque and islamic school applications now and again.
i am a proud Boltonian but our council is failing us.
I think the Farnworth mosque application would have been rejected under a Salford planning meeting.
I would like Farnworth and Kearsley to come under Salford. Yes i know Salford is also Labour controlled,but at least it rejects mosque and islamic school applications now and again. i am a proud Boltonian but our council is failing us. I think the Farnworth mosque application would have been rejected under a Salford planning meeting. Reality50
  • Score: 0

12:56pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Reality50 says...

atlas123 wrote:
Trotter31 wrote:
billyexpat wrote:
Yes
Bolton would be far better without this ugly little place it is an drain on the towns coffers let Chorley have the moaning throng and all its perceived problems but I doubt they would accept the challenge that is Horwrich.
You should look at Bolton councils tax breakdown each April and notice that Horwich and Westhoughton pay more council tax than Bolton yet all work is done in Bolton a new market that is an eye sore, new bus station and a super mosque. Why not use the money on road's, schools and jobs within the whole of Bolton borough? Why should Horwich and Westhoughton pay for projects that do not benefit the town. Horwich is nearer to Chorley and the move of these town towns joining can benefit both towns. In my opinion Bolton is ripe with drug's, high unemployment and scroungers. I've lived in Bolton many times but always come back to home Horwich because we are a strong community. Chorley is being revamped with a big new Asda and I work in Chorley. To get a council house in Chorley you have to prove that you are moving to the area to benefit the area, unlike Bolton at Home. I would like a referendum and a town hall meeting to see the views of other Horwich and Chorley residents and local/district council members
Ooooh Bloody hell;


Revamped with a big new Asda!!!! My word that'll draw them in!

Asda is a horrible place to shop, right at the bottom of the "supermarkets" trying to play with the budget retailers, garish colours, poor amateurish merchandising and chavvy staff, who stand around plumbed in to their ipods chewing gum.

Should Horwich Join Chorley, geographically it will be out on a limb, you will lose the advantages of being in greater Manchester, and I am yet to be convinced that any local authority is any better than the next. What about Police & Fire Services that work to council/county boundaries?

They all suffer from wasting money, its just they choose to do it in different places. Yes Bury has a better town centre, but Bury's Roads are worse than Bolton's.

I cant really see the benefit of Chorley coming out of Lancashire CC. I think it is just empire building at Chorley council, that will end up costing the taxpayer in terms of money and poorer services.
There are no advantages of being in Greater Manchester unless you live in Manchester as they get the cream and we get the crumbs. Preston does very well out of being in Lancashire and Chorley has a low employment level and a good infrastructure.
[quote][p][bold]atlas123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Trotter31[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]billyexpat[/bold] wrote: Yes Bolton would be far better without this ugly little place it is an drain on the towns coffers let Chorley have the moaning throng and all its perceived problems but I doubt they would accept the challenge that is Horwrich.[/p][/quote]You should look at Bolton councils tax breakdown each April and notice that Horwich and Westhoughton pay more council tax than Bolton yet all work is done in Bolton a new market that is an eye sore, new bus station and a super mosque. Why not use the money on road's, schools and jobs within the whole of Bolton borough? Why should Horwich and Westhoughton pay for projects that do not benefit the town. Horwich is nearer to Chorley and the move of these town towns joining can benefit both towns. In my opinion Bolton is ripe with drug's, high unemployment and scroungers. I've lived in Bolton many times but always come back to home Horwich because we are a strong community. Chorley is being revamped with a big new Asda and I work in Chorley. To get a council house in Chorley you have to prove that you are moving to the area to benefit the area, unlike Bolton at Home. I would like a referendum and a town hall meeting to see the views of other Horwich and Chorley residents and local/district council members[/p][/quote]Ooooh Bloody hell; Revamped with a big new Asda!!!! My word that'll draw them in! Asda is a horrible place to shop, right at the bottom of the "supermarkets" trying to play with the budget retailers, garish colours, poor amateurish merchandising and chavvy staff, who stand around plumbed in to their ipods chewing gum. Should Horwich Join Chorley, geographically it will be out on a limb, you will lose the advantages of being in greater Manchester, and I am yet to be convinced that any local authority is any better than the next. What about Police & Fire Services that work to council/county boundaries? They all suffer from wasting money, its just they choose to do it in different places. Yes Bury has a better town centre, but Bury's Roads are worse than Bolton's. I cant really see the benefit of Chorley coming out of Lancashire CC. I think it is just empire building at Chorley council, that will end up costing the taxpayer in terms of money and poorer services.[/p][/quote]There are no advantages of being in Greater Manchester unless you live in Manchester as they get the cream and we get the crumbs. Preston does very well out of being in Lancashire and Chorley has a low employment level and a good infrastructure. Reality50
  • Score: 2

2:53pm Fri 1 Aug 14

mr.mark.c says...

Ernagy2 wrote:
mr.mark.c wrote:
I live in Kearsley and wonder if we should be Salford, then I look the other way and see farnworth, talk about being between a rock and a hard place jeesh.
Know what you mean Mark. Perhaps independence for Kearsley? (lol)
It's a bit late, Bolton council sold our town hall.
[quote][p][bold]Ernagy2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mr.mark.c[/bold] wrote: I live in Kearsley and wonder if we should be Salford, then I look the other way and see farnworth, talk about being between a rock and a hard place jeesh.[/p][/quote]Know what you mean Mark. Perhaps independence for Kearsley? (lol)[/p][/quote]It's a bit late, Bolton council sold our town hall. mr.mark.c
  • Score: 1

2:54pm Fri 1 Aug 14

boltonfree says...

Talk about throwing toys out of the pram just because they are building much needed houses the people of Horwich want to leave bolton. I say go to another council but why would they want Horwich as it seems when they don't get their way they just throw a tantrum.
Talk about throwing toys out of the pram just because they are building much needed houses the people of Horwich want to leave bolton. I say go to another council but why would they want Horwich as it seems when they don't get their way they just throw a tantrum. boltonfree
  • Score: -8

4:10pm Fri 1 Aug 14

bigbob123 says...

manpol wrote:
Why dont we adopt the french idea and each village/area has it s own mayor who makes decisions and deals with the budgets....

I think we would get a cost saving on our council tax..... mind you they dont pay for scroungers to live in houses etc.............
Scroungers?
[quote][p][bold]manpol[/bold] wrote: Why dont we adopt the french idea and each village/area has it s own mayor who makes decisions and deals with the budgets.... I think we would get a cost saving on our council tax..... mind you they dont pay for scroungers to live in houses etc.............[/p][/quote]Scroungers? bigbob123
  • Score: 0

4:58pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Pete1602 says...

Rememberscarborough wrote:
Does Breightmet want to become part of Bury...
We don't want Breightmet!
Bury Council are the same... all money is spent on the centre and not out lying areas such as Radcliffe & Prestwich etc..
[quote][p][bold]Rememberscarborough[/bold] wrote: Does Breightmet want to become part of Bury...[/p][/quote]We don't want Breightmet! Bury Council are the same... all money is spent on the centre and not out lying areas such as Radcliffe & Prestwich etc.. Pete1602
  • Score: 0

5:05pm Fri 1 Aug 14

billyexpat says...

I don,t think extra time is needed on this debate now.

BOLTON 1 horwich 0
Note lack of capitals
I don,t think extra time is needed on this debate now. BOLTON 1 horwich 0 Note lack of capitals billyexpat
  • Score: -8

5:17pm Fri 1 Aug 14

mr.mark.c says...

bigbob123 wrote:
manpol wrote:
Why dont we adopt the french idea and each village/area has it s own mayor who makes decisions and deals with the budgets....

I think we would get a cost saving on our council tax..... mind you they dont pay for scroungers to live in houses etc.............
Scroungers?
I was thinking the same, I think it what people in ivory towers call the less fortunate.
[quote][p][bold]bigbob123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]manpol[/bold] wrote: Why dont we adopt the french idea and each village/area has it s own mayor who makes decisions and deals with the budgets.... I think we would get a cost saving on our council tax..... mind you they dont pay for scroungers to live in houses etc.............[/p][/quote]Scroungers?[/p][/quote]I was thinking the same, I think it what people in ivory towers call the less fortunate. mr.mark.c
  • Score: 2

3:51pm Sat 2 Aug 14

mick-t says...

billyexpat wrote:
Yes
Bolton would be far better without this ugly little place it is an drain on the towns coffers let Chorley have the moaning throng and all its perceived problems but I doubt they would accept the challenge that is Horwrich.
Well said haha

To the throng:
Another thing to whinge about! How is building houses affecting you personally?

You xenophobic pieces of cr@p are just worried who's going to be put in them houses, that's more like the problem isn't it? What's up Chorley got less "pakis"?
[quote][p][bold]billyexpat[/bold] wrote: Yes Bolton would be far better without this ugly little place it is an drain on the towns coffers let Chorley have the moaning throng and all its perceived problems but I doubt they would accept the challenge that is Horwrich.[/p][/quote]Well said haha To the throng: Another thing to whinge about! How is building houses affecting you personally? You xenophobic pieces of cr@p are just worried who's going to be put in them houses, that's more like the problem isn't it? What's up Chorley got less "pakis"? mick-t
  • Score: -1

1:49pm Mon 4 Aug 14

cartman66 says...

marco999 wrote:
As a Horwich resident who was born here and whose roots here go back five generations I would gladly vote for anything that would stop the greedy over-development of our beautiful town. I don't want Horwich to become a big housing estate with gridlocked roads and takeaways on every corner.
too late
[quote][p][bold]marco999[/bold] wrote: As a Horwich resident who was born here and whose roots here go back five generations I would gladly vote for anything that would stop the greedy over-development of our beautiful town. I don't want Horwich to become a big housing estate with gridlocked roads and takeaways on every corner.[/p][/quote]too late cartman66
  • Score: 2

1:58pm Mon 4 Aug 14

cartman66 says...

Waltmeister wrote:
Can't wait to see Bolton Wanderers playing in Chorley.
they don't play in Horwich now as the Middlebrook is in Bolton apparently every time its mentioned Horwich doesn't exist???
[quote][p][bold]Waltmeister[/bold] wrote: Can't wait to see Bolton Wanderers playing in Chorley.[/p][/quote]they don't play in Horwich now as the Middlebrook is in Bolton apparently every time its mentioned Horwich doesn't exist??? cartman66
  • Score: 1

2:04pm Mon 4 Aug 14

cartman66 says...

Waltmeister wrote:
Can't wait to see Bolton Wanderers playing in Chorley.
they don't play in Horwich now as the Middlebrook is in Bolton apparently every time its mentioned Horwich doesn't exist???
[quote][p][bold]Waltmeister[/bold] wrote: Can't wait to see Bolton Wanderers playing in Chorley.[/p][/quote]they don't play in Horwich now as the Middlebrook is in Bolton apparently every time its mentioned Horwich doesn't exist??? cartman66
  • Score: 1

2:11pm Mon 4 Aug 14

cartman66 says...

Historically horwich was part of Lancashire, but the lancashire boundry was moved,
if you look at historical maps you will see horwich in lancashire on the maps
Historically horwich was part of Lancashire, but the lancashire boundry was moved, if you look at historical maps you will see horwich in lancashire on the maps cartman66
  • Score: 1

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