'Councillors weren't properly informed about North West Infidels' anti-mosque protest'

'Councillors weren't properly informed about North West Infidels' anti-mosque protest'

Protesters at the demo in Blackburn Road, which was organised by right wing group the North West Infidels.

Cllr Sufrana Bashir-Ismail

First published in News The Bolton News: Photograph of the Author by , politics reporter

A SENIOR Labour councillor has accused Bolton Council of failing to inform her properly about an anti-mosque protest in her ward.

Crompton councillor and cabinet member Sufrana Bashir-Ismail claims council officers told members of the community and the Taiyabah Islamic Centre of the location of the demonstration and closure of Canning Street before telling her.

The protest attracted hundreds of protestors from across the country, who were met by an opposing demonstration led by Bolton Trades Union Council, Bolton Against Racism and members of the nearby community.

It sparked a massive police operation, which saw Blackburn Road closed for more than an hour and two people arrested.

Cllr Ismail told The Bolton News that councillors were invited to a meeting the Wednesday before the demonstration, the day after officers from the police and council met with community leaders and mosque members.

When asked where the protest would be held — which was the result of negotiations between the North West infidels and police — she says officers refused to tell them.

At a second meeting on Thursday involving all parties, Cllr Ismail says she was only told the final location of the protest and road closures by a member of the mosque.

She said: “The protest took place on public land, not on mosque land, and so the consultation should have taken place with the ward councillors.

“People were bussed into a residential area and given police protection while they were there, on an issue that will have no impact on them whatsoever.

“I support anyone’s right to demonstrate, but I don’t support council officers and police officers consulting with individuals who are not elected members, then informing elected members after consultation.

“In eight years of being a councillor I have never known a situation like it.”

It is understood the final details of the planned protest were provided at Thursday’s meeting of police, council officers, councillors and members of the community, and that no objections were raised.

Cllr Ismail said she would formally complain to Bolton Council about the issue.

A council spokesman denied that Crompton councillors had not been properly informed about the demonstration.

He said: “We are confident that the way we engaged with all stakeholders, including ward councillors, was appropriate and in line with how these issues have been dealt with in previous protests.

“Our approach was as a result of working closely with the police and had the support of the leadership of the council.”

Supt Andrea Jones said that police had to deal with “dynamic circumstances” before and during the protest, which meant changing strategy and closing Blackburn Road at short notice.

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1:23pm Wed 6 Aug 14

Balboa says...

So she's upset that her community knew before she did - is that about right?

Doesn't she know what's going on in her community? Did she apportion any blame to the elders and community leaders for not informing her?

Typical labour blame culture.

Muppet.
So she's upset that her community knew before she did - is that about right? Doesn't she know what's going on in her community? Did she apportion any blame to the elders and community leaders for not informing her? Typical labour blame culture. Muppet. Balboa
  • Score: 49

1:53pm Wed 6 Aug 14

sueie1 says...

She should have been listening at the meeting prior to the demo, like everyone else was, unless, she hadn't bothered to turn up to it?
She should have been listening at the meeting prior to the demo, like everyone else was, unless, she hadn't bothered to turn up to it? sueie1
  • Score: 37

2:12pm Wed 6 Aug 14

rostron says...

1 This person supposedly holds weekly meetings for the Crompton Ward.
2 She is a Labour member, & the head of the Labour party in Bolton is Councillor Morriss.
3 All the relevant people, police, council, etc etc were notified & put actions to cover the protest in place.
4 This person is getting over £11, 000 basic allowance as a councillor from Bolton council tax payers.
With this complaint she is making has made Bolton council a laughing stock, the council a laughing stock, her members of Crompton ward a laughing stock, if she didn't know this protest was going to happen on Blackburn road.
what info did MR Morriss give her,none according to her, as the leader of her party, do they not communicate,?
There has been meetings im sure over the said protest, where was this person ?
I am more than positive that the said members of the ward, will have raised this matter to you, as its been a big issue for quite a while.
I think the council should let the said council tax payers know through the paper, what communication she had on this matter. If she wishes to make such an allegation, which I certainly DO NOT BELIEVE,
This has made every dept, involved a mockery therefore I don't see any reason for the people of Bolton to contribute to such a farce.
I think resignation is the answer for her !
1 This person supposedly holds weekly meetings for the Crompton Ward. 2 She is a Labour member, & the head of the Labour party in Bolton is Councillor Morriss. 3 All the relevant people, police, council, etc etc were notified & put actions to cover the protest in place. 4 This person is getting over £11, 000 basic allowance as a councillor from Bolton council tax payers. With this complaint she is making has made Bolton council a laughing stock, the council a laughing stock, her members of Crompton ward a laughing stock, if she didn't know this protest was going to happen on Blackburn road. what info did MR Morriss give her,none according to her, as the leader of her party, do they not communicate,? There has been meetings im sure over the said protest, where was this person ? I am more than positive that the said members of the ward, will have raised this matter to you, as its been a big issue for quite a while. I think the council should let the said council tax payers know through the paper, what communication she had on this matter. If she wishes to make such an allegation, which I certainly DO NOT BELIEVE, This has made every dept, involved a mockery therefore I don't see any reason for the people of Bolton to contribute to such a farce. I think resignation is the answer for her ! rostron
  • Score: 43

2:14pm Wed 6 Aug 14

BlueRay79 says...

Another councillor that doesn't know what is going on in her home town. What a surprise.

Also, if the TUC and and Labour lefties were not holding counter demos, the costs would be nowhere near what people are quoting. It was a peaceful demo apart from a few which would have been even more peaceful had the lefties not turned up.
Another councillor that doesn't know what is going on in her home town. What a surprise. Also, if the TUC and and Labour lefties were not holding counter demos, the costs would be nowhere near what people are quoting. It was a peaceful demo apart from a few which would have been even more peaceful had the lefties not turned up. BlueRay79
  • Score: 38

2:19pm Wed 6 Aug 14

StopwiththeBS says...

BlueRay79 wrote:
Another councillor that doesn't know what is going on in her home town. What a surprise.

Also, if the TUC and and Labour lefties were not holding counter demos, the costs would be nowhere near what people are quoting. It was a peaceful demo apart from a few which would have been even more peaceful had the lefties not turned up.
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[quote][p][bold]BlueRay79[/bold] wrote: Another councillor that doesn't know what is going on in her home town. What a surprise. Also, if the TUC and and Labour lefties were not holding counter demos, the costs would be nowhere near what people are quoting. It was a peaceful demo apart from a few which would have been even more peaceful had the lefties not turned up.[/p][/quote]**** StopwiththeBS
  • Score: 0

2:40pm Wed 6 Aug 14

CDJ1973 says...

Surprisingly the only Cllr not to know was a Muslim MP, come on what a joke. Do the Muslim Cllr's just like their face in Bolton News? bloody joke just like Bolton Council is.
Surprisingly the only Cllr not to know was a Muslim MP, come on what a joke. Do the Muslim Cllr's just like their face in Bolton News? bloody joke just like Bolton Council is. CDJ1973
  • Score: 36

2:41pm Wed 6 Aug 14

LMAO@U says...

So she was only informed by a member of the Mosque eh ? Would that be the same Mosque that she voted in favour of at the recent planning meeting ? With such a vested interest i don't understand how some councillors even had the right to vote . All i ever see is this particular Councillor moaning about absolutely everything . I wonder if she'd have such a big bee in her bonnet if it wasn't the Infidels they had dealt with ;)
So she was only informed by a member of the Mosque eh ? Would that be the same Mosque that she voted in favour of at the recent planning meeting ? With such a vested interest i don't understand how some councillors even had the right to vote . All i ever see is this particular Councillor moaning about absolutely everything . I wonder if she'd have such a big bee in her bonnet if it wasn't the Infidels they had dealt with ;) LMAO@U
  • Score: 29

2:50pm Wed 6 Aug 14

StopwiththeBS says...

rostron wrote:
1 This person supposedly holds weekly meetings for the Crompton Ward.
2 She is a Labour member, & the head of the Labour party in Bolton is Councillor Morriss.
3 All the relevant people, police, council, etc etc were notified & put actions to cover the protest in place.
4 This person is getting over £11, 000 basic allowance as a councillor from Bolton council tax payers.
With this complaint she is making has made Bolton council a laughing stock, the council a laughing stock, her members of Crompton ward a laughing stock, if she didn't know this protest was going to happen on Blackburn road.
what info did MR Morriss give her,none according to her, as the leader of her party, do they not communicate,?
There has been meetings im sure over the said protest, where was this person ?
I am more than positive that the said members of the ward, will have raised this matter to you, as its been a big issue for quite a while.
I think the council should let the said council tax payers know through the paper, what communication she had on this matter. If she wishes to make such an allegation, which I certainly DO NOT BELIEVE,
This has made every dept, involved a mockery therefore I don't see any reason for the people of Bolton to contribute to such a farce.
I think resignation is the answer for her !
Its more to do with the exact location of the protest and information regarding things like the closure of the main thoroughfare for the ward in which the Councillor is responsible. No doubt she has had to deal with numerous complaints from members of the ward due to no one having been made aware that the entire road would be closed off for over an hour. If you read the article you'll see that it wasn't about not being aware of the demo. It was about being made aware of the plans for the demo.
[quote][p][bold]rostron[/bold] wrote: 1 This person supposedly holds weekly meetings for the Crompton Ward. 2 She is a Labour member, & the head of the Labour party in Bolton is Councillor Morriss. 3 All the relevant people, police, council, etc etc were notified & put actions to cover the protest in place. 4 This person is getting over £11, 000 basic allowance as a councillor from Bolton council tax payers. With this complaint she is making has made Bolton council a laughing stock, the council a laughing stock, her members of Crompton ward a laughing stock, if she didn't know this protest was going to happen on Blackburn road. what info did MR Morriss give her,none according to her, as the leader of her party, do they not communicate,? There has been meetings im sure over the said protest, where was this person ? I am more than positive that the said members of the ward, will have raised this matter to you, as its been a big issue for quite a while. I think the council should let the said council tax payers know through the paper, what communication she had on this matter. If she wishes to make such an allegation, which I certainly DO NOT BELIEVE, This has made every dept, involved a mockery therefore I don't see any reason for the people of Bolton to contribute to such a farce. I think resignation is the answer for her ![/p][/quote]Its more to do with the exact location of the protest and information regarding things like the closure of the main thoroughfare for the ward in which the Councillor is responsible. No doubt she has had to deal with numerous complaints from members of the ward due to no one having been made aware that the entire road would be closed off for over an hour. If you read the article you'll see that it wasn't about not being aware of the demo. It was about being made aware of the plans for the demo. StopwiththeBS
  • Score: -24

2:56pm Wed 6 Aug 14

widneslad01 says...

"A SENIOR Labour councillor" doesnt even know what is going on in bolton, yet me, a working class lad from 50 miles away in widnes knows what is goping on in bolton. This shows just how much our traitorous political class care about you in bolton and how out of touch with the real issues faceing the english people they are. i think this story is going to back fire on the commie reporter who has printed it
"A SENIOR Labour councillor" doesnt even know what is going on in bolton, yet me, a working class lad from 50 miles away in widnes knows what is goping on in bolton. This shows just how much our traitorous political class care about you in bolton and how out of touch with the real issues faceing the english people they are. i think this story is going to back fire on the commie reporter who has printed it widneslad01
  • Score: 28

3:43pm Wed 6 Aug 14

IvanCamposHair says...

I don't really see what the issue is here. She should take this problems to the Council officers and police personally and not broadcast it in the Bolton News causing aload of problems.
I don't really see what the issue is here. She should take this problems to the Council officers and police personally and not broadcast it in the Bolton News causing aload of problems. IvanCamposHair
  • Score: 20

3:51pm Wed 6 Aug 14

IvanCamposHair says...

BlueRay79 wrote:
Another councillor that doesn't know what is going on in her home town. What a surprise.

Also, if the TUC and and Labour lefties were not holding counter demos, the costs would be nowhere near what people are quoting. It was a peaceful demo apart from a few which would have been even more peaceful had the lefties not turned up.
Yeah and it is peaceful in your house when there is only you agreeing with yourself.

They had the right to protest but people have the right to oppose it and surely would.

Seems you want to **** all you want but moan like hell when people are around to smell them.
[quote][p][bold]BlueRay79[/bold] wrote: Another councillor that doesn't know what is going on in her home town. What a surprise. Also, if the TUC and and Labour lefties were not holding counter demos, the costs would be nowhere near what people are quoting. It was a peaceful demo apart from a few which would have been even more peaceful had the lefties not turned up.[/p][/quote]Yeah and it is peaceful in your house when there is only you agreeing with yourself. They had the right to protest but people have the right to oppose it and surely would. Seems you want to **** all you want but moan like hell when people are around to smell them. IvanCamposHair
  • Score: -19

4:18pm Wed 6 Aug 14

BlueRay79 says...

IvanCamposHair wrote:
BlueRay79 wrote:
Another councillor that doesn't know what is going on in her home town. What a surprise.

Also, if the TUC and and Labour lefties were not holding counter demos, the costs would be nowhere near what people are quoting. It was a peaceful demo apart from a few which would have been even more peaceful had the lefties not turned up.
Yeah and it is peaceful in your house when there is only you agreeing with yourself.

They had the right to protest but people have the right to oppose it and surely would.

Seems you want to **** all you want but moan like hell when people are around to smell them.
It's not use moaning about the cost though is it? It's cu%ts like Elaine Flydd from the Bolton News and her lovely lefties! Let's all go and have a street party to oppose the demo to cause even greater damage to the public purse!
[quote][p][bold]IvanCamposHair[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BlueRay79[/bold] wrote: Another councillor that doesn't know what is going on in her home town. What a surprise. Also, if the TUC and and Labour lefties were not holding counter demos, the costs would be nowhere near what people are quoting. It was a peaceful demo apart from a few which would have been even more peaceful had the lefties not turned up.[/p][/quote]Yeah and it is peaceful in your house when there is only you agreeing with yourself. They had the right to protest but people have the right to oppose it and surely would. Seems you want to **** all you want but moan like hell when people are around to smell them.[/p][/quote]It's not use moaning about the cost though is it? It's cu%ts like Elaine Flydd from the Bolton News and her lovely lefties! Let's all go and have a street party to oppose the demo to cause even greater damage to the public purse! BlueRay79
  • Score: 22

7:17pm Wed 6 Aug 14

thomas222 says...

I cant believe a Islamist is unhappy about something. This unhappy taxpayers funded Woman is happy to ask Muslims to boycott HSBC Bank because it has decided its dodgy money possibly being sent to terrorist Hamas from a Islamic Charity yet does not complain when a Islamic Bank refuses to accept the same money from the same Islamic Charity.
I cant believe a Islamist is unhappy about something. This unhappy taxpayers funded Woman is happy to ask Muslims to boycott HSBC Bank because it has decided its dodgy money possibly being sent to terrorist Hamas from a Islamic Charity yet does not complain when a Islamic Bank refuses to accept the same money from the same Islamic Charity. thomas222
  • Score: 18

7:21pm Wed 6 Aug 14

Ch227dsh says...

Very reassuring that a ward councillor hasn't a clue about what's going on in her own constituency. What does this person actually do for her ward? Whenever I see her in the paper, as previously stated by someone above, all she seems to do is be moaning about things. As someone who previously always voted labour, councillor's such as this have forced me to abstain from labour vote. I do not see any proactive work being done, just lots of underhand, bent politics. But what does one expect from a shambles like we suffer here in Bolton. This particular councillor's twitter page is always full of arguments with others. I fail to see how people like this keep their posts at all. Us "constituents" could do a far better job ourselves. And save ourselves some money!
Very reassuring that a ward councillor hasn't a clue about what's going on in her own constituency. What does this person actually do for her ward? Whenever I see her in the paper, as previously stated by someone above, all she seems to do is be moaning about things. As someone who previously always voted labour, councillor's such as this have forced me to abstain from labour vote. I do not see any proactive work being done, just lots of underhand, bent politics. But what does one expect from a shambles like we suffer here in Bolton. This particular councillor's twitter page is always full of arguments with others. I fail to see how people like this keep their posts at all. Us "constituents" could do a far better job ourselves. And save ourselves some money! Ch227dsh
  • Score: 27

8:03pm Wed 6 Aug 14

garyarms says...

Yet another unbiased politically neutral piece from The Bolton News.

The protest attracted hundreds of protestors from across the country, who were met by an opposing demonstration led by Bolton Trades Union Council, Bolton Against Racism and members of the nearby community.

Of course nobody from Bolton was protesting against the councils decision, only people "from across the country", while all the locals stood proudly against this demonstration "Bolton Against Racism, ....people from nearby communities"

No wonder so many people are turning their backs on this (so called) newspaper
Yet another unbiased politically neutral piece from The Bolton News. The protest attracted hundreds of protestors from across the country, who were met by an opposing demonstration led by Bolton Trades Union Council, Bolton Against Racism and members of the nearby community. Of course nobody from Bolton was protesting against the councils decision, only people "from across the country", while all the locals stood proudly against this demonstration "Bolton Against Racism, ....people from nearby communities" No wonder so many people are turning their backs on this (so called) newspaper garyarms
  • Score: 15

8:25pm Wed 6 Aug 14

thomas222 says...

Ch227dsh wrote:
Very reassuring that a ward councillor hasn't a clue about what's going on in her own constituency. What does this person actually do for her ward? Whenever I see her in the paper, as previously stated by someone above, all she seems to do is be moaning about things. As someone who previously always voted labour, councillor's such as this have forced me to abstain from labour vote. I do not see any proactive work being done, just lots of underhand, bent politics. But what does one expect from a shambles like we suffer here in Bolton. This particular councillor's twitter page is always full of arguments with others. I fail to see how people like this keep their posts at all. Us "constituents" could do a far better job ourselves. And save ourselves some money!
Moaning and being offended is in the DNA of all Islamists.
[quote][p][bold]Ch227dsh[/bold] wrote: Very reassuring that a ward councillor hasn't a clue about what's going on in her own constituency. What does this person actually do for her ward? Whenever I see her in the paper, as previously stated by someone above, all she seems to do is be moaning about things. As someone who previously always voted labour, councillor's such as this have forced me to abstain from labour vote. I do not see any proactive work being done, just lots of underhand, bent politics. But what does one expect from a shambles like we suffer here in Bolton. This particular councillor's twitter page is always full of arguments with others. I fail to see how people like this keep their posts at all. Us "constituents" could do a far better job ourselves. And save ourselves some money![/p][/quote]Moaning and being offended is in the DNA of all Islamists. thomas222
  • Score: 19

8:57pm Wed 6 Aug 14

atlas123 says...

Rather than moaning here she should be more ashamed that she didn't know what was going on...
Rather than moaning here she should be more ashamed that she didn't know what was going on... atlas123
  • Score: 16

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