LiveBolton Council planning meeting

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Summary

  • Live updates from Bolton Council's planning committee meeting today from 2pm.
  • Among the applications being considered are:
  • The final stages of the Bolton East Cycle Way plan
  • Plans to demolish the derelict club house and driving range at Bolton Open Golf Club to make way for eight houses
  • A bid to build 12 new homes at the site of the former The Woodlands children’s home in Manchester Road
  • A neighbour row over an ‘unsightly’ polytunnel used to grow vegetables in a Lostock garden

4:18pm

That's all from me, as deadline is approaching. Thanks as ever for following and there will be full articles on the main applications discussed today both online and in print. Over and out.

4:17pm

Bradshaw councillor Walter Hall says he's happy with it, and with that it's approved.

4:16pm

Three detached houses could be built in the former Garden Nursery in Hawthorn Bank, if these next plans are allowed.

4:14pm

There will be another application for its re-siting. Councillors approved that application.

4:13pm

A poly tunnel is the focus of the next application. Officers are recommending councillors allow the temporary retention of the tunnel, used to grow vegetables, until September, I.e. The end of the growing season

4:11pm

Moved for approval, seconded... And approved. Councillors speeding up now!

4:10pm

Application has been approved. Next one is another that was deferred from July, plans to knock down an existing farmhouse to build four houses in its place

4:09pm

Floor open for debate. Cllr Watters said she would be delighted to approve the application, as they do a lot of good for children in the area.

4:06pm

Andy Holiday speaking for the application now. Says the club wants to replace the portable lights, which are completely impractical. The blustery winds can make the lights unsafe, he adds.

4:04pm

Hours for use are between 5pm and 9pm Monday to Friday, and 4pm to 6pm Saturday and Sunday.

4:02pm

Attention now turned to a bid by Ladybridge FC to put up six 15metre floodlights on their pitch in Tempest Road.

4:01pm

Deferrement has been approved. So we've got to go through all that again next month.....

4:00pm

Cllr Darvesh also asking council officers to ask the applicant to come to the next meeting, so councillors can put their questions directly to them.

3:59pm

Looks like councillors will defer it again, but Cllr Peel is not happy. Says the councillors needs to give the applicant a decent reason for deferral, not the same reason given last time.

3:52pm

Cllr John Walsh calling for deferment - but Cllr Cliff Morris said it's not fair on the applicant to keep deferring. "It's not fair on us", say objectors from the public gallery.

3:49pm

"There are too many unknowns, and we need to talk to the applicant" he said. "We'll still be talking about this when we have beards"

3:48pm

Cllr Critchley says he's "totally baffled" by this application - I'm with you there, Norman!

3:46pm

Cllr Allen recommending refusal on the basis of a lack of car parking spaces, which is "totally inadequate"

3:45pm

Cllr Elaine Sherrington now, she wants officers to ask the planner to move the new house slightly further back. But the council officer says they're planning to use the same foundations of the house.

3:43pm

Cllr Nick Peel disagreeing with Cllr Allen. He says planning law won't allow them to reject an application because a better one might be around the corner, committee has to treat each application on its own merits

3:39pm

(If you want to have a look at the application and see what I'm talking about, go to Bolton Council planning portal and it's application number 91779/14)

3:38pm

He wants this application to be refused 

3:38pm

To say there has been a saga with this house would be an understatement. But Cllr Bob Allen said the acceptance that the house needs to be demolition should represent a fresh start and an end to the "years of torment" for residents living nearby

3:33pm

Cllr Bob Allen says this is the 13th application in four years on this site - seeing off five planning committees and four Bolton News reporters in its time!

3:28pm

Lostock Residents Group say they are totally against the proposals and Neil Atkinson is speaking against it now

3:23pm

Councillors picking up an application that was previously deferred now (from July). It is in relation to 49 Regent Road in Lostock, and councillors wanted more proof of how many cars could park on the site.

3:22pm

It has been deferred.

3:21pm

Cllr Jean Gillies asking for deferral of the application while planners sort out the access road into the site from Buckley Lane

3:19pm

Objector Jackie Slade speaking to the council. She wants the councillors to change the exits as the plans have them close to a bus stop and crossing, which is used often by children going to and from school

3:13pm

Now onto future plans for The Hollies former rest home, now derelict and the subject of flytipping resulting in broken glass, bed mattresses and general rubbish littering the site. There's plans for 20 two-storey semi-detached and mews style properties

3:10pm

All the applications (including listed building consent) are being voted on... and they have all been unanimously approved.

3:09pm

There's also been a lot of talk of train artwork, which the residents don't like one bit. Councillors have agreed to remove it. We'll try and find a picture of it to see exactly why it is so bad!

3:07pm

Looking like councillors will approve the application so long as the part on the top of the viaduct is covered

3:02pm

Adding it's important that people can't go around on the outside of the parapet, otherwise that defeats the object

3:01pm

There's discussions now on "caging" the cycle way, by making it enclosed over the Darcy Lever viaduct

2:59pm

Debate started. Cllr Richardson speaking now, says the greatest concern of the residents on Woodside Place and Lower Darcy Street is anti-social behaviour. Apart from that, he said he is more or less satisfied with the application.

2:58pm

Brian Olive also said he's worried about an increase in vandalism on houses next to the cycle way

2:57pm

Resident Mr Connor speaking now. Says he doesn't mind the cycle way, but explains the viaduct was initially shut off due to suicides.

2:52pm

Bolton Council is the applicant for this one, and has had 11 objection letters about it over issues including safety and a potential increase in anti-social behaviour

2:50pm

Three applications will be taken as one now, for the third and final stage of the Bolton East Cycle Way from Gorses Road to Scholey Street (included are separate applications for listed building consent on the Burnden and Darcy Lever viaduct)

2:46pm

Application has been refused unanimously.

2:44pm

Also against the application is Cllr Nick Peel. Says he sees this development as an inappropriate development within the green belt, which completely goes against the recommendations of the Planning Inspectorate when they were involved in an appeal for another development.

2:42pm

Onto the debate. Cllr. Norma Critchley says he sees no merit to the application "This is a step too far on this particular site", he said. "I certainly have a major problem with this, this isn't going to be the last application of this site if history is taken into account." He's moved refusal.

2:38pm

Cllr Walter Hall accuses the applicant of trying to use "smoke and mirrors" and "magic tricks" to try and change green belt land into brown field land for development. Asks the committee not to be colour blind and reject the application.

2:34pm

Blasted the application as "development overkill" and would "completely destroy the character and environment of the area"

2:32pm

He says residents believe the land has been allowed to fall into disrepair so that a planning application for development would be more likely to succeed

2:31pm

Bradshaw councillor Stuart Haslam is speaking against that application. Said Bolton Civic Trust and wildlife enthusiasts object to the application in the strongest terms.

2:29pm

Resident Ruth Bregin (not sure if that's her surname - apologies) speaking against. Says the land is within green belt and only has permission for recreational use, and should stay as that.

2:27pm

Paul Sedgwick speaking for the application. Says as someone who lives in the area and has seen how Longsight Lane has deteriorated, and this scheme will improve the area.

2:24pm

There's been 17 letters of objection and two Bradshaw councillors have objected to speak - but officers are recommending approval.

2:23pm

Hearing that there was a decision already on this area allowing a housing development to go on the site, despite the fact it's green belt

2:21pm

Councillors now looking at the plans for Bolton Open Golf Club in Longsight Lane

2:20pm

Approved unanimously by the committee.

2:20pm

Cllr Nick Peel seconding application, pending condition on prayer facility only allowed to open between 8am until 8pm.

2:18pm

Subject open for debate.

2:17pm

Says they had looked at another site close by, but it wasn't suitable. He's asking the council to support this voluntary organisation that is trying to help youngsters resist temptations for anti-social behaviour.

2:14pm

Mr Anwar is going to speak for the application now

2:12pm

Council officer saying the current buildings are not in a good condition, so an improvement would be welcome. However, he says the opening hours for the prayer facility - 4am until midnight - is too long. They're recommending suitable times would be 8am until 10pm to minimise the disruption to residents nearby.

2:11pm

Plans include space for a community hall, prayer area, three classrooms, a staff room and kitchen/dining area for the Muslim community (the Trust are involved with religious teaching for children and adults, as well as youth mentoring and anti-drug/anti-crime support networks)

2:09pm

No urgent business, so we're onto the applications. First up is a bid by the Great Lever Welfare Youth Trust, who want to change the use of a depot in Monton Street for a range of uses.

2:06pm

And we're off. Fire evacuation and running through declarations of interest.

2:03pm

Chamber is beginning to fill up nicely now, and Cllr Hanif Darvesh has taken his seat as the chairman.

2:02pm

I digress. Another potentially interesting one today is the vandalised former care home called The Hollies, in Farnworth. Developers want to put 20 new houses in its place, and these plans have been recommended for approval.

2:00pm

Cabinet and licensing, you might be interested to know, start bang on the hour.

2:00pm

Public gallery is filling up but the vast majority of councillors have yet to arrive. Planning committee is one of the more tardy meetings, I've noticed in my time as the BN politics reporter.

1:59pm

We're also going to hear plans to demolish the derelict club house of the Bolton Open Golf Club and old driving range to make way for eight houses. This has attracted 16 letters of objection from residents living nearby

1:57pm

A few interesting bit and bobs due to be discussed today. The biggest application is probably the final stages of the Bolton East Cycle Way, which will run along the old Bolton-Bury railway and across the viaduct in Darcy Lever. No word yet from the council whether the route will be named after Bolton cycling legend Jason Kenny.

1:56pm

I've missed the last two of these, which both sounded quite exciting, so a quick reminder that if anyone wants to throw money at the committee today if you could lob it towards the press bench, I'd be much obliged

1:54pm

Afternoon planning fans, it's Elaine here ready to take you through this afternoon's meeting of the planning committee.

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4:56pm Thu 28 Aug 14

Ernagy2 says...

Can't see the point in this if the reporter is going to bail out early
Can't see the point in this if the reporter is going to bail out early Ernagy2
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