Binmen refuse to collect glass window

The Bolton News: Ian Greenhalgh and the double-glazed window he wanted recycling Ian Greenhalgh and the double-glazed window he wanted recycling

A HOUSEHOLDER is calling for Bolton Council to clarify its recycling policies — after binmen refused to take his glass window.

Ian Greenhalgh, aged 67, from Jesmond Road, Smithills, had a double-glazed window replaced and put his old one alongside his other glass products, ready for the council’s recycling teams to remove on collection day.

But he was “flabbergasted” when the council would not take the glass away.

He said: “I would have thought it is just normal glass and I can’t understand why they wouldn’t take it.

“I mean, glass is glass isn’t it?”

“I don’t mind taking it to a waste recycling centre but not everybody has that option. It seems a bit like bureaucracy gone mad to me.”

Bolton Council has said sheet glass, used for windows, has different properties that means it must be recycled through a different process.

A spokesperson added: “Bolton Council can only accept glass bottles and jars for recycling and this is specified in all material which is given to residents.

“Unfortunately sheet glass has different properties to glass bottles and jars and cannot be recycled into new glass through the same process.

“Sheet glass can be taken along to any Household Waste Recycling Centre.”

Mr Greenhalgh has contacted his ward councillor, the leader of the Liberal Democrats in Bolton, Roger Hayes, who has said he is puzzled by the issue.

Cllr Hayes said: “I must admit I was surprised to hear that the council cannot take sheet glass for recycling. If it is in all the literature then that is fair enough, but I would like to find out a bit more about the reasons why.”

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5:27pm Sat 28 Dec 13

Muppet80 says...

If it had been smashed into the bin they would have taken it without knowing the difference
If it had been smashed into the bin they would have taken it without knowing the difference Muppet80

6:04pm Sat 28 Dec 13

Blackrod says...

Why did the double glazing fitter not take it, every firm i have used have taken them as part of job. My understanding is that glass has a lot of different varieties. The old colour separation being one example (separated due to the properties in the glass rather than not mixing colours). I suppose it depends on what we get money back for and if we would end up paying for the glass not accpted to be disposed. A cost to the council comes from our pockets.
Why did the double glazing fitter not take it, every firm i have used have taken them as part of job. My understanding is that glass has a lot of different varieties. The old colour separation being one example (separated due to the properties in the glass rather than not mixing colours). I suppose it depends on what we get money back for and if we would end up paying for the glass not accpted to be disposed. A cost to the council comes from our pockets. Blackrod

9:56pm Sat 28 Dec 13

RealisticMoi says...

Ok, if it is a different processing then bag it up and chuck it in your black bin. After all surely there is more pressing news than a mania if about glass and recycling?!
Ok, if it is a different processing then bag it up and chuck it in your black bin. After all surely there is more pressing news than a mania if about glass and recycling?! RealisticMoi

9:41am Sun 29 Dec 13

127001 says...

Why is this even news?

1) Man wants to recycle old glass window - council say to take to recycling centre (you can even ask the council to pick up for a set fee)
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Answer to the above;
Man either takes glass to recycling centre or phones council?

Again, why is this news? It's clearly stated in council literature what they recycle in the burgundy bins. You don't need a degree in bio-chemistry to realise it's just a simple problem with an even simpler solution.
Why is this even news? 1) Man wants to recycle old glass window - council say to take to recycling centre (you can even ask the council to pick up for a set fee) . Answer to the above; Man either takes glass to recycling centre or phones council? Again, why is this news? It's clearly stated in council literature what they recycle in the burgundy bins. You don't need a degree in bio-chemistry to realise it's just a simple problem with an even simpler solution. 127001

10:14am Sun 29 Dec 13

127001 says...

As a side note I can understand why it wasn't collected - there's lead on the glass itself and would require separation at the recycling centre.
As a side note I can understand why it wasn't collected - there's lead on the glass itself and would require separation at the recycling centre. 127001

10:54am Sun 29 Dec 13

pecky2k says...

Eeeeeeeeeeee when I were a lad the binmen took everything, even picked the bins up and emptied them by hand, the job just got done, and the council didn't get paid from us to take the waste then get paid again for its recyclable value.
I understand landfill isn't environmentally friendly in the long term but I'm sure that the binman could have just put this one item in the general waste bin and had done.
Also the window company who replaced the unit may not have had the correct waste carriers licence to take it away.
Eeeeeeeeeeee when I were a lad the binmen took everything, even picked the bins up and emptied them by hand, the job just got done, and the council didn't get paid from us to take the waste then get paid again for its recyclable value. I understand landfill isn't environmentally friendly in the long term but I'm sure that the binman could have just put this one item in the general waste bin and had done. Also the window company who replaced the unit may not have had the correct waste carriers licence to take it away. pecky2k

12:15pm Sun 29 Dec 13

boltonnut says...

The bin men mustn't have had their glasses on.
The bin men mustn't have had their glasses on. boltonnut

1:05pm Sun 29 Dec 13

coolcat says...

Well, it makes a change from yet another permutation of one of his 5 tedious letters of complaint to the BN doesn't it? He's a expert on recycling those...yawn.
Well, it makes a change from yet another permutation of one of his 5 tedious letters of complaint to the BN doesn't it? He's a expert on recycling those...yawn. coolcat

1:18pm Sun 29 Dec 13

cosmicma says...

the council don't want low grade plastics and now it seems low grade glass is on the no list as well.
they don't want polystyrene packing ( the white stuff ) but will take other plastics like bottles and molded plastics etc considering there all made out of the same ingredients and are all plastics they consider low grade plastics not worth their while
the reality is if they can't make money from it they don't want it in the recycled bin
so we pay them to take our waste we try to recycle what we can the irony is if we decided to recyclable waste we could collect the money
and they think they are doing us a favour

aluminium cans are worth about 800 quid a tonne how many do you give to the council each year ??
the council don't want low grade plastics and now it seems low grade glass is on the no list as well. they don't want polystyrene packing ( the white stuff ) but will take other plastics like bottles and molded plastics etc considering there all made out of the same ingredients and are all plastics they consider low grade plastics not worth their while the reality is if they can't make money from it they don't want it in the recycled bin so we pay them to take our waste we try to recycle what we can the irony is if we decided to recyclable waste we could collect the money and they think they are doing us a favour aluminium cans are worth about 800 quid a tonne how many do you give to the council each year ?? cosmicma

4:45pm Sun 29 Dec 13

boltonnut says...

What a pane in the arse.
What a pane in the arse. boltonnut

6:38pm Sun 29 Dec 13

Denis Tuborg says...

Glass Bottles or Jars..... it says so on all the literature the Council have ever put out. So now rearrange the following words into a sentence.... Whinging stop wit dim you!!!!
Glass Bottles or Jars..... it says so on all the literature the Council have ever put out. So now rearrange the following words into a sentence.... Whinging stop wit dim you!!!! Denis Tuborg

8:47pm Sun 29 Dec 13

dougie kay says...

127001 wrote:
As a side note I can understand why it wasn't collected - there's lead on the glass itself and would require separation at the recycling centre.
Bang on there127001. not to mention rubber seals.remember if doubt black bin it .what happend to common sense?
[quote][p][bold]127001[/bold] wrote: As a side note I can understand why it wasn't collected - there's lead on the glass itself and would require separation at the recycling centre.[/p][/quote]Bang on there127001. not to mention rubber seals.remember if doubt black bin it .what happend to common sense? dougie kay

9:39pm Sun 29 Dec 13

biglad44 says...

I can't believe Cllr Hayes doesn't know his own councils recycling policy unbelievable !!!
I can't believe Cllr Hayes doesn't know his own councils recycling policy unbelievable !!! biglad44

12:43am Mon 30 Dec 13

I, Ludicrous says...

I can only conclude from this that Ian Greenhalgh, aged 67, from Jesmond Road, Smithills, is an absoulte moaning todger! Man up, you ****!
I can only conclude from this that Ian Greenhalgh, aged 67, from Jesmond Road, Smithills, is an absoulte moaning todger! Man up, you ****! I, Ludicrous

12:05pm Mon 30 Dec 13

Comment777 says...

I, Ludicrous wrote:
I can only conclude from this that Ian Greenhalgh, aged 67, from Jesmond Road, Smithills, is an absoulte moaning todger! Man up, you ****!
There is not a shard of news interest in this story, when people have nothing to do than be a pane it really makes me see double. This broken panel could have been sealed in a separate bag and the problem would have been glazed over with no need for a reporter to be floating about. The BN has lost its reporting glaze and its staff seem to be unable to see what is happening outside their own window maybe a few less glasses of festive cheer over Christmas would have helped....
[quote][p][bold]I, Ludicrous[/bold] wrote: I can only conclude from this that Ian Greenhalgh, aged 67, from Jesmond Road, Smithills, is an absoulte moaning todger! Man up, you ****![/p][/quote]There is not a shard of news interest in this story, when people have nothing to do than be a pane it really makes me see double. This broken panel could have been sealed in a separate bag and the problem would have been glazed over with no need for a reporter to be floating about. The BN has lost its reporting glaze and its staff seem to be unable to see what is happening outside their own window maybe a few less glasses of festive cheer over Christmas would have helped.... Comment777

1:06pm Mon 30 Dec 13

biglad44 says...

You wonder why the bin men get stressed when you get some plant pot in the paper with a double glazed window in his hand moaning why it can't be recycled
You wonder why the bin men get stressed when you get some plant pot in the paper with a double glazed window in his hand moaning why it can't be recycled biglad44

1:22pm Mon 30 Dec 13

harvey_s says...

I think it's really poor that The Bolton News didn't do enough research before printing this story. Mr. Greenhalgh should have too, rather than running to the 'papers with comments like 'bureaucracy gone mad'.

I worked for a glass company for a number of years and the property of glass used in windows is very different to glass drink bottles etc. that can be recycled. The amount of glass that went to landfill was shocking, but until the 'powers that be' have a solution for processing such waste glass, that is where it will remain to go.

Do some research before bringing things down. It's distasteful.
I think it's really poor that The Bolton News didn't do enough research before printing this story. Mr. Greenhalgh should have too, rather than running to the 'papers with comments like 'bureaucracy gone mad'. I worked for a glass company for a number of years and the property of glass used in windows is very different to glass drink bottles etc. that can be recycled. The amount of glass that went to landfill was shocking, but until the 'powers that be' have a solution for processing such waste glass, that is where it will remain to go. Do some research before bringing things down. It's distasteful. harvey_s

9:37pm Mon 30 Dec 13

tinypet says...

stick it in your black bin and fill it with rubbish, they wont know whos bin its from. this bin collection is w ank. im sick of keep going back and forth to rakes lane, im almost on first name terms im never away lol
stick it in your black bin and fill it with rubbish, they wont know whos bin its from. this bin collection is w ank. im sick of keep going back and forth to rakes lane, im almost on first name terms im never away lol tinypet

10:12pm Mon 30 Dec 13

biglad44 says...

tinypet wrote:
stick it in your black bin and fill it with rubbish, they wont know whos bin its from. this bin collection is w ank. im sick of keep going back and forth to rakes lane, im almost on first name terms im never away lol
And what happens when the glass shatters in the back of the bin truck and blinds one of the bin men he can go to A+E just because your clever and can't be arsed.
[quote][p][bold]tinypet[/bold] wrote: stick it in your black bin and fill it with rubbish, they wont know whos bin its from. this bin collection is w ank. im sick of keep going back and forth to rakes lane, im almost on first name terms im never away lol[/p][/quote]And what happens when the glass shatters in the back of the bin truck and blinds one of the bin men he can go to A+E just because your clever and can't be arsed. biglad44

10:33pm Mon 30 Dec 13

tinypet says...

biglad44 wrote:
tinypet wrote:
stick it in your black bin and fill it with rubbish, they wont know whos bin its from. this bin collection is w ank. im sick of keep going back and forth to rakes lane, im almost on first name terms im never away lol
And what happens when the glass shatters in the back of the bin truck and blinds one of the bin men he can go to A+E just because your clever and can't be arsed.
take it your a binman then
[quote][p][bold]biglad44[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tinypet[/bold] wrote: stick it in your black bin and fill it with rubbish, they wont know whos bin its from. this bin collection is w ank. im sick of keep going back and forth to rakes lane, im almost on first name terms im never away lol[/p][/quote]And what happens when the glass shatters in the back of the bin truck and blinds one of the bin men he can go to A+E just because your clever and can't be arsed.[/p][/quote]take it your a binman then tinypet

6:35am Tue 31 Dec 13

biglad44 says...

tinypet wrote:
biglad44 wrote:
tinypet wrote:
stick it in your black bin and fill it with rubbish, they wont know whos bin its from. this bin collection is w ank. im sick of keep going back and forth to rakes lane, im almost on first name terms im never away lol
And what happens when the glass shatters in the back of the bin truck and blinds one of the bin men he can go to A+E just because your clever and can't be arsed.
take it your a binman then
Why do I have to be a bin man just because I don't want to see someone get hurt.
[quote][p][bold]tinypet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]biglad44[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tinypet[/bold] wrote: stick it in your black bin and fill it with rubbish, they wont know whos bin its from. this bin collection is w ank. im sick of keep going back and forth to rakes lane, im almost on first name terms im never away lol[/p][/quote]And what happens when the glass shatters in the back of the bin truck and blinds one of the bin men he can go to A+E just because your clever and can't be arsed.[/p][/quote]take it your a binman then[/p][/quote]Why do I have to be a bin man just because I don't want to see someone get hurt. biglad44

8:13am Tue 31 Dec 13

The Righteous One says...

biglad44 wrote:
tinypet wrote:
stick it in your black bin and fill it with rubbish, they wont know whos bin its from. this bin collection is w ank. im sick of keep going back and forth to rakes lane, im almost on first name terms im never away lol
And what happens when the glass shatters in the back of the bin truck and blinds one of the bin men he can go to A+E just because your clever and can't be arsed.
Do what they did in the early 1980's and all the decades before then (especially when wea ll had only one metal, or plastic, bin that had no wheels).... Man up, take it on the chin and carry on removing the waste!!!!
[quote][p][bold]biglad44[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tinypet[/bold] wrote: stick it in your black bin and fill it with rubbish, they wont know whos bin its from. this bin collection is w ank. im sick of keep going back and forth to rakes lane, im almost on first name terms im never away lol[/p][/quote]And what happens when the glass shatters in the back of the bin truck and blinds one of the bin men he can go to A+E just because your clever and can't be arsed.[/p][/quote]Do what they did in the early 1980's and all the decades before then (especially when wea ll had only one metal, or plastic, bin that had no wheels).... Man up, take it on the chin and carry on removing the waste!!!! The Righteous One

4:42pm Tue 31 Dec 13

127001 says...

/conspiracy theory

Has anyone noticed Mr. Greehalgh's jumper?

It has the word 'Ping' written on the arm. Ping is a famous golfing brand.

I wonder if Mr. Greenhalgh broke the window with one of his golf balls and is trying to offload the evidence?

/conspiracy theory.
/conspiracy theory Has anyone noticed Mr. Greehalgh's jumper? It has the word 'Ping' written on the arm. Ping is a famous golfing brand. I wonder if Mr. Greenhalgh broke the window with one of his golf balls and is trying to offload the evidence? /conspiracy theory. 127001

7:52pm Tue 31 Dec 13

biglad44 says...

The Righteous One wrote:
biglad44 wrote:
tinypet wrote:
stick it in your black bin and fill it with rubbish, they wont know whos bin its from. this bin collection is w ank. im sick of keep going back and forth to rakes lane, im almost on first name terms im never away lol
And what happens when the glass shatters in the back of the bin truck and blinds one of the bin men he can go to A+E just because your clever and can't be arsed.
Do what they did in the early 1980's and all the decades before then (especially when wea ll had only one metal, or plastic, bin that had no wheels).... Man up, take it on the chin and carry on removing the waste!!!!
All the bin men from the early 80 are all crippled wonder why. so why comment on something you know nothing about
[quote][p][bold]The Righteous One[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]biglad44[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tinypet[/bold] wrote: stick it in your black bin and fill it with rubbish, they wont know whos bin its from. this bin collection is w ank. im sick of keep going back and forth to rakes lane, im almost on first name terms im never away lol[/p][/quote]And what happens when the glass shatters in the back of the bin truck and blinds one of the bin men he can go to A+E just because your clever and can't be arsed.[/p][/quote]Do what they did in the early 1980's and all the decades before then (especially when wea ll had only one metal, or plastic, bin that had no wheels).... Man up, take it on the chin and carry on removing the waste!!!![/p][/quote]All the bin men from the early 80 are all crippled wonder why. so why comment on something you know nothing about biglad44

1:27pm Thu 2 Jan 14

AndrewMartinS says...

biglad44 wrote:
I can't believe Cllr Hayes doesn't know his own councils recycling policy unbelievable !!!
The Council is run by Labour.
[quote][p][bold]biglad44[/bold] wrote: I can't believe Cllr Hayes doesn't know his own councils recycling policy unbelievable !!![/p][/quote]The Council is run by Labour. AndrewMartinS

3:16pm Sat 4 Jan 14

A Campbell says...

AndrewMartinS wrote:
biglad44 wrote:
I can't believe Cllr Hayes doesn't know his own councils recycling policy unbelievable !!!
The Council is run by Labour.
Is Cllr Hayes not part of the Council?
[quote][p][bold]AndrewMartinS[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]biglad44[/bold] wrote: I can't believe Cllr Hayes doesn't know his own councils recycling policy unbelievable !!![/p][/quote]The Council is run by Labour.[/p][/quote]Is Cllr Hayes not part of the Council? A Campbell

10:17pm Sat 4 Jan 14

biglad44 says...

A Campbell wrote:
AndrewMartinS wrote:
biglad44 wrote:
I can't believe Cllr Hayes doesn't know his own councils recycling policy unbelievable !!!
The Council is run by Labour.
Is Cllr Hayes not part of the Council?
Yes I think your spot on I think the clue is in the title Cllr.
[quote][p][bold]A Campbell[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AndrewMartinS[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]biglad44[/bold] wrote: I can't believe Cllr Hayes doesn't know his own councils recycling policy unbelievable !!![/p][/quote]The Council is run by Labour.[/p][/quote]Is Cllr Hayes not part of the Council?[/p][/quote]Yes I think your spot on I think the clue is in the title Cllr. biglad44

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