Bolton Council workers demand £1 per hour pay rise

The Bolton News: The rally takes place on the town hall steps The rally takes place on the town hall steps

COUNCIL employees will hold a rally on the town hall steps to call on the authority to increase their pay by £1 an hour, across the board.

The public sector union Unison, which represents Bolton Council’s 11,000-strong workforce, has organised the demonstration on February 4 as part of a national pay claim.

In the draft budget for the next financial year – which will be debated by councillors in February – deputy chief executive Steve Arnfield assumes a pay award of one per cent for public sector works for each of the next three years.

But under Unison’s proposals, council employees on the minimum wage would see their pay go up by 15.5 per cent.

Branch secretary Bernadette Gallagher said workers have put up with pay freeze and one per cent rises for too long – and that they deserved better, adding: “We have people struggling to pay bills and turning to food banks.

“A large proportion of our members are low paid and often women workers who are struggling to keep the wolf from the door. Enough is enough. We need action to tackle the growing cost of living crisis.

“We are not asking for the huge increases and bonuses of Britain’s executive board-rooms.”

The rally takes place between 12.30pm and 2pm on the steps of Bolton’s town hall square on Tuesday, February 4.

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9:31am Mon 27 Jan 14

boredofbolton says...

Really? that makes me chuckle, first they are complaining about cuts, now they want a pay rise? where exactly do they think the money for a pay rise would come from? yes you can have a pay rise but we'll have to sack 20% of you to afford it!!

idiotic at best.
Really? that makes me chuckle, first they are complaining about cuts, now they want a pay rise? where exactly do they think the money for a pay rise would come from? yes you can have a pay rise but we'll have to sack 20% of you to afford it!! idiotic at best. boredofbolton
  • Score: 16

9:35am Mon 27 Jan 14

boredofbolton says...

an extra £11000 an hour?
an extra £88000 a day? (assuming every one does 8 hour days)
an extra £440000 a week?

can you see where i'm going with this?
an extra £11000 an hour? an extra £88000 a day? (assuming every one does 8 hour days) an extra £440000 a week? can you see where i'm going with this? boredofbolton
  • Score: 8

9:48am Mon 27 Jan 14

Jim271 says...

All those people who will start to moan about where the money is going to come from.

Please bear in mind that of this £1 extra and hour 32% will go straight back to the government.

The 68% left will be spent in the local economy generating more employment.

Council staff also pay council tax so again they will have to pay back into the system some of what the take out.

Its low wages and greedy high earners that's causing the recession.
All those people who will start to moan about where the money is going to come from. Please bear in mind that of this £1 extra and hour 32% will go straight back to the government. The 68% left will be spent in the local economy generating more employment. Council staff also pay council tax so again they will have to pay back into the system some of what the take out. Its low wages and greedy high earners that's causing the recession. Jim271
  • Score: 0

10:23am Mon 27 Jan 14

philipwalduck says...

does the union understand that Bolton council currently face cuts of £22million pounds for the 2014-15 budget cycle, Is it pure coincidence that this pay rise demand will add another £22million to the budget shortfall. The only way this money can be raised will be through Council Tax. A £44 million shortfall divided amongst the 116,400 households in the Bolton Metropolitan area means an increase of ~£380 per year per household. This would be unacceptable to me and probably most people in the area!
does the union understand that Bolton council currently face cuts of £22million pounds for the 2014-15 budget cycle, Is it pure coincidence that this pay rise demand will add another £22million to the budget shortfall. The only way this money can be raised will be through Council Tax. A £44 million shortfall divided amongst the 116,400 households in the Bolton Metropolitan area means an increase of ~£380 per year per household. This would be unacceptable to me and probably most people in the area! philipwalduck
  • Score: 22

10:24am Mon 27 Jan 14

The Righteous One says...

Lets put it thsi way - the council workers want on average £1/hour more to live on.....

What will the councillors give themselves as a pay-rise? - no doubt it will be far more than the average £1/hour

Councillors have had over inflationary pay rises during this recession whilst the common everyday workers have had pay freezes. Its about time they received a payrise - especially as goods and services have increased by more than 32% over the same period!

And as Jim271 says - how much is going back into the system and how much will be spent in Bolton creating jobs and helping the local economy?
Lets put it thsi way - the council workers want on average £1/hour more to live on..... What will the councillors give themselves as a pay-rise? - no doubt it will be far more than the average £1/hour Councillors have had over inflationary pay rises during this recession whilst the common everyday workers have had pay freezes. Its about time they received a payrise - especially as goods and services have increased by more than 32% over the same period! And as Jim271 says - how much is going back into the system and how much will be spent in Bolton creating jobs and helping the local economy? The Righteous One
  • Score: 9

10:30am Mon 27 Jan 14

john163uk says...

Whatever next? Councillors demanding to be exempt from council tax and having use of disabled parking bays. BMBC what a joke you are, if you was privatised it would go bang within 2 month. Do you not think you rip the tax payer off enough with the shoddy services provided? The schools are a mess, the Roads are a mess, the town centre is a disgrace, the hospitals in its arse and to add insult to injury you want a pay increase.
Whatever next? Councillors demanding to be exempt from council tax and having use of disabled parking bays. BMBC what a joke you are, if you was privatised it would go bang within 2 month. Do you not think you rip the tax payer off enough with the shoddy services provided? The schools are a mess, the Roads are a mess, the town centre is a disgrace, the hospitals in its arse and to add insult to injury you want a pay increase. john163uk
  • Score: 14

10:37am Mon 27 Jan 14

atlas123 says...

I wasn't aware the councillors got paid....

Expenses yes, pay no
I wasn't aware the councillors got paid.... Expenses yes, pay no atlas123
  • Score: 3

10:38am Mon 27 Jan 14

atlas123 says...

I hope they go on strike...


That'll save more money!
I hope they go on strike... That'll save more money! atlas123
  • Score: 3

10:43am Mon 27 Jan 14

The Righteous One says...

atlas123 wrote:
I wasn't aware the councillors got paid....

Expenses yes, pay no
Why do you think they do not have a proper job - a councillors pay is extortionate compared to other town councillors. Cliff Morris' wage for being council leader is over £150,000 per annum. (plus he has 2 other jobs in local politics quangos)
[quote][p][bold]atlas123[/bold] wrote: I wasn't aware the councillors got paid.... Expenses yes, pay no[/p][/quote]Why do you think they do not have a proper job - a councillors pay is extortionate compared to other town councillors. Cliff Morris' wage for being council leader is over £150,000 per annum. (plus he has 2 other jobs in local politics quangos) The Righteous One
  • Score: 13

10:44am Mon 27 Jan 14

The Righteous One says...

john163uk wrote:
Whatever next? Councillors demanding to be exempt from council tax and having use of disabled parking bays. BMBC what a joke you are, if you was privatised it would go bang within 2 month. Do you not think you rip the tax payer off enough with the shoddy services provided? The schools are a mess, the Roads are a mess, the town centre is a disgrace, the hospitals in its arse and to add insult to injury you want a pay increase.
Top be fair the Council has no say in teh hsopital as that belomngs to the NHS and not the council!
[quote][p][bold]john163uk[/bold] wrote: Whatever next? Councillors demanding to be exempt from council tax and having use of disabled parking bays. BMBC what a joke you are, if you was privatised it would go bang within 2 month. Do you not think you rip the tax payer off enough with the shoddy services provided? The schools are a mess, the Roads are a mess, the town centre is a disgrace, the hospitals in its arse and to add insult to injury you want a pay increase.[/p][/quote]Top be fair the Council has no say in teh hsopital as that belomngs to the NHS and not the council! The Righteous One
  • Score: 5

10:50am Mon 27 Jan 14

filthy6 says...

The Righteous One wrote:
john163uk wrote: Whatever next? Councillors demanding to be exempt from council tax and having use of disabled parking bays. BMBC what a joke you are, if you was privatised it would go bang within 2 month. Do you not think you rip the tax payer off enough with the shoddy services provided? The schools are a mess, the Roads are a mess, the town centre is a disgrace, the hospitals in its arse and to add insult to injury you want a pay increase.
Top be fair the Council has no say in teh hsopital as that belomngs to the NHS and not the council!
& schools are being privatised (sorry made into academies) left, right & centre....
[quote][p][bold]The Righteous One[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]john163uk[/bold] wrote: Whatever next? Councillors demanding to be exempt from council tax and having use of disabled parking bays. BMBC what a joke you are, if you was privatised it would go bang within 2 month. Do you not think you rip the tax payer off enough with the shoddy services provided? The schools are a mess, the Roads are a mess, the town centre is a disgrace, the hospitals in its arse and to add insult to injury you want a pay increase.[/p][/quote]Top be fair the Council has no say in teh hsopital as that belomngs to the NHS and not the council![/p][/quote]& schools are being privatised (sorry made into academies) left, right & centre.... filthy6
  • Score: 4

11:10am Mon 27 Jan 14

john163uk says...

filthy6 wrote:
The Righteous One wrote:
john163uk wrote: Whatever next? Councillors demanding to be exempt from council tax and having use of disabled parking bays. BMBC what a joke you are, if you was privatised it would go bang within 2 month. Do you not think you rip the tax payer off enough with the shoddy services provided? The schools are a mess, the Roads are a mess, the town centre is a disgrace, the hospitals in its arse and to add insult to injury you want a pay increase.
Top be fair the Council has no say in teh hsopital as that belomngs to the NHS and not the council!
& schools are being privatised (sorry made into academies) left, right & centre....
Didn’t Cllr Cliff Morris chair the board until he abandoned ship in 2012? I know Hospital is within the NHS remit but I’m sure BMBC were fully aware of the dismal situation along with Morris and contributed to its further decline and near bankruptcy!
[quote][p][bold]filthy6[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Righteous One[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]john163uk[/bold] wrote: Whatever next? Councillors demanding to be exempt from council tax and having use of disabled parking bays. BMBC what a joke you are, if you was privatised it would go bang within 2 month. Do you not think you rip the tax payer off enough with the shoddy services provided? The schools are a mess, the Roads are a mess, the town centre is a disgrace, the hospitals in its arse and to add insult to injury you want a pay increase.[/p][/quote]Top be fair the Council has no say in teh hsopital as that belomngs to the NHS and not the council![/p][/quote]& schools are being privatised (sorry made into academies) left, right & centre....[/p][/quote]Didn’t Cllr Cliff Morris chair the board until he abandoned ship in 2012? I know Hospital is within the NHS remit but I’m sure BMBC were fully aware of the dismal situation along with Morris and contributed to its further decline and near bankruptcy! john163uk
  • Score: 6

11:22am Mon 27 Jan 14

The Righteous One says...

john163uk wrote:
filthy6 wrote:
The Righteous One wrote:
john163uk wrote: Whatever next? Councillors demanding to be exempt from council tax and having use of disabled parking bays. BMBC what a joke you are, if you was privatised it would go bang within 2 month. Do you not think you rip the tax payer off enough with the shoddy services provided? The schools are a mess, the Roads are a mess, the town centre is a disgrace, the hospitals in its arse and to add insult to injury you want a pay increase.
Top be fair the Council has no say in teh hsopital as that belomngs to the NHS and not the council!
& schools are being privatised (sorry made into academies) left, right & centre....
Didn’t Cllr Cliff Morris chair the board until he abandoned ship in 2012? I know Hospital is within the NHS remit but I’m sure BMBC were fully aware of the dismal situation along with Morris and contributed to its further decline and near bankruptcy!
He was but all major NHS sites have places on the board from their local councils - just like Housing trusts do! But that was one of his other jobs and he was getting about £80,000/annum for just doing that bit - he now sits on teh GMAC health board - earning approx £120,000/annum for doing basically teh same thing but for the whole of Greater Manchester! (and thats on top of his councillors wage!)
[quote][p][bold]john163uk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]filthy6[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Righteous One[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]john163uk[/bold] wrote: Whatever next? Councillors demanding to be exempt from council tax and having use of disabled parking bays. BMBC what a joke you are, if you was privatised it would go bang within 2 month. Do you not think you rip the tax payer off enough with the shoddy services provided? The schools are a mess, the Roads are a mess, the town centre is a disgrace, the hospitals in its arse and to add insult to injury you want a pay increase.[/p][/quote]Top be fair the Council has no say in teh hsopital as that belomngs to the NHS and not the council![/p][/quote]& schools are being privatised (sorry made into academies) left, right & centre....[/p][/quote]Didn’t Cllr Cliff Morris chair the board until he abandoned ship in 2012? I know Hospital is within the NHS remit but I’m sure BMBC were fully aware of the dismal situation along with Morris and contributed to its further decline and near bankruptcy![/p][/quote]He was but all major NHS sites have places on the board from their local councils - just like Housing trusts do! But that was one of his other jobs and he was getting about £80,000/annum for just doing that bit - he now sits on teh GMAC health board - earning approx £120,000/annum for doing basically teh same thing but for the whole of Greater Manchester! (and thats on top of his councillors wage!) The Righteous One
  • Score: 14

11:56am Mon 27 Jan 14

AndrewMartinS says...

The Righteous One wrote:
Lets put it thsi way - the council workers want on average £1/hour more to live on.....

What will the councillors give themselves as a pay-rise? - no doubt it will be far more than the average £1/hour

Councillors have had over inflationary pay rises during this recession whilst the common everyday workers have had pay freezes. Its about time they received a payrise - especially as goods and services have increased by more than 32% over the same period!

And as Jim271 says - how much is going back into the system and how much will be spent in Bolton creating jobs and helping the local economy?
I'm not sure about your facts re. Councillors' pay but the Lib Dems proposed a reduction in the number of Councillors by a third and a reduction in the number of councillors getting Special Responsibility Allowances. This was voted down by Labour and most Tories.
[quote][p][bold]The Righteous One[/bold] wrote: Lets put it thsi way - the council workers want on average £1/hour more to live on..... What will the councillors give themselves as a pay-rise? - no doubt it will be far more than the average £1/hour Councillors have had over inflationary pay rises during this recession whilst the common everyday workers have had pay freezes. Its about time they received a payrise - especially as goods and services have increased by more than 32% over the same period! And as Jim271 says - how much is going back into the system and how much will be spent in Bolton creating jobs and helping the local economy?[/p][/quote]I'm not sure about your facts re. Councillors' pay but the Lib Dems proposed a reduction in the number of Councillors by a third and a reduction in the number of councillors getting Special Responsibility Allowances. This was voted down by Labour and most Tories. AndrewMartinS
  • Score: 5

12:00pm Mon 27 Jan 14

scantronic says...

They must be joking ! ?
They must be joking ! ? scantronic
  • Score: 2

12:02pm Mon 27 Jan 14

boltonchap says...

Morris is a danger to any organisation. At RBH he was asked to leave by Monitor due to the dreadful state of the finances. . Remember Bolton Technical College went into financial meltdown and who was the grandee there? Yes, the fat controller.
He was also a major shareholder in smithills coaching house and once his two partners were off the scene it too went into meltdown.
Morris is a danger to any organisation. At RBH he was asked to leave by Monitor due to the dreadful state of the finances. . Remember Bolton Technical College went into financial meltdown and who was the grandee there? Yes, the fat controller. He was also a major shareholder in smithills coaching house and once his two partners were off the scene it too went into meltdown. boltonchap
  • Score: 17

2:08pm Mon 27 Jan 14

squeak says...

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dddd squeak
  • Score: -3

2:14pm Mon 27 Jan 14

squeak says...

Can you all please re read the article!
The proposal is ONLY for the small number of employees currently on the minimum wage NOT all council employees
21 and over get £6.31; 18 to 20 get £5.03; Under 18s get £3.72 and Apprentices get £2.68. So not exactly a living wage!
Can you all please re read the article! The proposal is ONLY for the small number of employees currently on the minimum wage NOT all council employees 21 and over get £6.31; 18 to 20 get £5.03; Under 18s get £3.72 and Apprentices get £2.68. So not exactly a living wage! squeak
  • Score: -1

2:23pm Mon 27 Jan 14

lv8151 says...

squeak wrote:
Can you all please re read the article!
The proposal is ONLY for the small number of employees currently on the minimum wage NOT all council employees
21 and over get £6.31; 18 to 20 get £5.03; Under 18s get £3.72 and Apprentices get £2.68. So not exactly a living wage!
and where does it say the pay rise is just for minimum wage ..... it doesn't ..... it does tell you though how much of a pay rise minimum wage workers will get .... "But under Unison’s proposals, council employees on the minimum wage would see their pay go up by 15.5 per cent." .... it doesn't mention that they are the only ones getting the rise .... maybe you need to re-read the article
[quote][p][bold]squeak[/bold] wrote: Can you all please re read the article! The proposal is ONLY for the small number of employees currently on the minimum wage NOT all council employees 21 and over get £6.31; 18 to 20 get £5.03; Under 18s get £3.72 and Apprentices get £2.68. So not exactly a living wage![/p][/quote]and where does it say the pay rise is just for minimum wage ..... it doesn't ..... it does tell you though how much of a pay rise minimum wage workers will get .... "But under Unison’s proposals, council employees on the minimum wage would see their pay go up by 15.5 per cent." .... it doesn't mention that they are the only ones getting the rise .... maybe you need to re-read the article lv8151
  • Score: 8

6:13pm Mon 27 Jan 14

wsw69 says...

The Righteous One wrote:
atlas123 wrote:
I wasn't aware the councillors got paid....

Expenses yes, pay no
Why do you think they do not have a proper job - a councillors pay is extortionate compared to other town councillors. Cliff Morris' wage for being council leader is over £150,000 per annum. (plus he has 2 other jobs in local politics quangos)
And we all know what a lummox and useless oxygen thief Cliff the stiff Morris is, don't we? The town should have been put out of its misery donkeys years ago by getting shut of that fool of an excuse.
[quote][p][bold]The Righteous One[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]atlas123[/bold] wrote: I wasn't aware the councillors got paid.... Expenses yes, pay no[/p][/quote]Why do you think they do not have a proper job - a councillors pay is extortionate compared to other town councillors. Cliff Morris' wage for being council leader is over £150,000 per annum. (plus he has 2 other jobs in local politics quangos)[/p][/quote]And we all know what a lummox and useless oxygen thief Cliff the stiff Morris is, don't we? The town should have been put out of its misery donkeys years ago by getting shut of that fool of an excuse. wsw69
  • Score: 8

6:53pm Wed 29 Jan 14

A Campbell says...

AndrewMartinS wrote:
The Righteous One wrote:
Lets put it thsi way - the council workers want on average £1/hour more to live on.....

What will the councillors give themselves as a pay-rise? - no doubt it will be far more than the average £1/hour

Councillors have had over inflationary pay rises during this recession whilst the common everyday workers have had pay freezes. Its about time they received a payrise - especially as goods and services have increased by more than 32% over the same period!

And as Jim271 says - how much is going back into the system and how much will be spent in Bolton creating jobs and helping the local economy?
I'm not sure about your facts re. Councillors' pay but the Lib Dems proposed a reduction in the number of Councillors by a third and a reduction in the number of councillors getting Special Responsibility Allowances. This was voted down by Labour and most Tories.
Forgive me if I'm wrong Andrew, but aren't you the Lib Dem leader Cllr Roger Hayes' bag carrier?

And, again, correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Cllr Roger Hayes claim a Special Responsibility Allowance for being the leader of a part made up of just three councillors, one of which is himself?

If this is the case, as I have been informed, your duplicity and sheer hypocrisy is quite staggering, even for a Liberal Democrat!
[quote][p][bold]AndrewMartinS[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Righteous One[/bold] wrote: Lets put it thsi way - the council workers want on average £1/hour more to live on..... What will the councillors give themselves as a pay-rise? - no doubt it will be far more than the average £1/hour Councillors have had over inflationary pay rises during this recession whilst the common everyday workers have had pay freezes. Its about time they received a payrise - especially as goods and services have increased by more than 32% over the same period! And as Jim271 says - how much is going back into the system and how much will be spent in Bolton creating jobs and helping the local economy?[/p][/quote]I'm not sure about your facts re. Councillors' pay but the Lib Dems proposed a reduction in the number of Councillors by a third and a reduction in the number of councillors getting Special Responsibility Allowances. This was voted down by Labour and most Tories.[/p][/quote]Forgive me if I'm wrong Andrew, but aren't you the Lib Dem leader Cllr Roger Hayes' bag carrier? And, again, correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Cllr Roger Hayes claim a Special Responsibility Allowance for being the leader of a part made up of just three councillors, one of which is himself? If this is the case, as I have been informed, your duplicity and sheer hypocrisy is quite staggering, even for a Liberal Democrat! A Campbell
  • Score: 1

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