New blood is needed, insists Bolton Wanderers boss Dougie Freedman

Dougie Freedman

Dougie Freedman

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DOUGIE Freedman admits he needs help to get Wanderers’ campaign back on track.

With less than a week remaining in the transfer window, the Scot faces the prospect of having to sell players before he buys the attacking reinforcements he feels will help get the club out of its current Championship funk.

Reports suggest he may have to create his own cash. Jay Spearing has been linked with Aston Villa, Mark Davies with Burnley and Adam Bogdan with Fulham in the last few days.

Sources within the club say no contact has been made about any of the trio – but that Wanderers would have to listen to sensible offers if they are to buy themselves some financial breathing room to bring new players in under the watchful eye of Financial Fair Play.

Pressure continued to build on Freedman’s shoulders after his side were pushed all the way by League One’s bottom club Crewe in the second round of the Capital One Cup.

Darren Pratley equalised a Bradden Inam effort for the Railwaymen but just as Jermaine Beckford looked to have bailed them out with an injury time winner, Marcus Haber headed an equaliser seven minutes into stoppage time.

It was Beckford again who struck early in the second half of extra time to seal a place in round three.

The display did little to change the grave concerns Freedman has over the lack of goals and creativity in his front line.

“Fans know it, I know it, you guys know it, of course we need new blood in there,” he told The Bolton News.

“But the simple fact is that our finances are tighter than they are at other clubs and so we can’t go out and buy them.

“I’m trying to keep on top of what I can and it’s definitely frustrating because we definitely need some freshness in there.”

“There are a couple of players who maybe don’t give us what we need – so we do need two or three attacking players.”

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8:12am Wed 27 Aug 14

Mallorca Trotter says...

"“There are a couple of players who maybe don’t give us what we need – so we do need two or three attacking players.”

Who are the players that don't give us what we need Dougie? Because the last time I looked, Craig Davies, Beckford, Wilkinson, Mason, Feeney and Hall were all brought to the club by you....

Just face it.. You'd mess up with Van Persie & Aguero in the team.
"“There are a couple of players who maybe don’t give us what we need – so we do need two or three attacking players.” Who are the players that don't give us what we need Dougie? Because the last time I looked, Craig Davies, Beckford, Wilkinson, Mason, Feeney and Hall were all brought to the club by you.... Just face it.. You'd mess up with Van Persie & Aguero in the team. Mallorca Trotter
  • Score: 56

8:20am Wed 27 Aug 14

Ernagy2 says...

I'd suggest it's further back where the problems are Dougie. We need a pacey centre back and a creative centre midfield player who can stamp their authority on the game. Goals don't seem a problem to me
I'd suggest it's further back where the problems are Dougie. We need a pacey centre back and a creative centre midfield player who can stamp their authority on the game. Goals don't seem a problem to me Ernagy2
  • Score: 7

8:58am Wed 27 Aug 14

Walshaw white says...

Freedman time to go absolutely clueless !
Freedman time to go absolutely clueless ! Walshaw white
  • Score: 46

9:12am Wed 27 Aug 14

jay7767 says...

Need a dominant centre mid someone not scared to put the boot in joey barton or sommet..
Need a dominant centre mid someone not scared to put the boot in joey barton or sommet.. jay7767
  • Score: -11

9:46am Wed 27 Aug 14

mattaiuseire says...

Ernagy2 wrote:
I'd suggest it's further back where the problems are Dougie. We need a pacey centre back and a creative centre midfield player who can stamp their authority on the game. Goals don't seem a problem to me
In the four league games, Bolton have had a total of 8 shots on target, 4 goals (50% from strikers and 50% from defenders).

Goals don't seem to be a problem?
[quote][p][bold]Ernagy2[/bold] wrote: I'd suggest it's further back where the problems are Dougie. We need a pacey centre back and a creative centre midfield player who can stamp their authority on the game. Goals don't seem a problem to me[/p][/quote]In the four league games, Bolton have had a total of 8 shots on target, 4 goals (50% from strikers and 50% from defenders). Goals don't seem to be a problem? mattaiuseire
  • Score: 9

9:47am Wed 27 Aug 14

Paul Hindley says...

Agree with Dougie , time for new blood starting with a new management team.
FREEDMAN OUT
Agree with Dougie , time for new blood starting with a new management team. FREEDMAN OUT Paul Hindley
  • Score: 52

10:11am Wed 27 Aug 14

Neilbwfc says...

Let's sell our better players and replace them with some more that are not up to it. That's if the money doesn't get used to pay for the board to go on holiday or a new car
Let's sell our better players and replace them with some more that are not up to it. That's if the money doesn't get used to pay for the board to go on holiday or a new car Neilbwfc
  • Score: 54

10:18am Wed 27 Aug 14

simsamsuk says...

its just depressing, we don't seem to have a penny in the coffers and I am not buying this "fair play" crap most other clubs in this division don't seem that concerned, and where is the voice of our chairman and owner while all this is going on, Gartside grow a pair come out and tell the fans what's really going on!!!
I am a season ticket holder who has followed the club through thick and thin even the old 4th division but much more of the uninspiring dire football being served up at the moment and my ticket will be on its way back
its just depressing, we don't seem to have a penny in the coffers and I am not buying this "fair play" crap most other clubs in this division don't seem that concerned, and where is the voice of our chairman and owner while all this is going on, Gartside grow a pair come out and tell the fans what's really going on!!! I am a season ticket holder who has followed the club through thick and thin even the old 4th division but much more of the uninspiring dire football being served up at the moment and my ticket will be on its way back simsamsuk
  • Score: 58

10:46am Wed 27 Aug 14

mega bolton fan says...

We need Garside out so money will flow from the boardroom down ge is using it as his own piggy bank and gas been for years and blame's it on the FFP why sell players we need to bring in 1 or 2 new ones that will only leave us short in other areas
We need Garside out so money will flow from the boardroom down ge is using it as his own piggy bank and gas been for years and blame's it on the FFP why sell players we need to bring in 1 or 2 new ones that will only leave us short in other areas mega bolton fan
  • Score: 10

11:03am Wed 27 Aug 14

johnnykilroy4 says...

Bolton Wanderers should have invested money in to new players years ago instead of selling players no wonder we are where we are now! PLEASE! BOLTON WANDERERS SPEND SOME MONEY!
Bolton Wanderers should have invested money in to new players years ago instead of selling players no wonder we are where we are now! PLEASE! BOLTON WANDERERS SPEND SOME MONEY! johnnykilroy4
  • Score: 3

11:16am Wed 27 Aug 14

jenny50 says...

Any club that concedes at least 2 goals a game are going to struggle no matter what level of football. Freedman seems like a genuine bloke just in the wrong job, agree new blood is neede starting with Gartside.
Any club that concedes at least 2 goals a game are going to struggle no matter what level of football. Freedman seems like a genuine bloke just in the wrong job, agree new blood is neede starting with Gartside. jenny50
  • Score: 19

11:29am Wed 27 Aug 14

BURNDEN BOY says...

As in most organisations you reap what you sow and unfortunately the directors and benefactor have concentrated more on tangible assets like the purchase of the hotel than the players. I think Gartside insulted everyone`s intelligence when he recently stated that the parachute payment the the club still receive was being used to pay off the debt. Supporters should not forget that whilst the debt is high this is not helped by enormous pension contributions , salaries and many other benefits that the men in power are able to charge to the business.
My grandson recently reminded me that not too many years ago the Wanderers were in the top 4 of the premiership at Christmas and yet amazingly the Chairman who has been responsible for our decline is still in power!!
As in most organisations you reap what you sow and unfortunately the directors and benefactor have concentrated more on tangible assets like the purchase of the hotel than the players. I think Gartside insulted everyone`s intelligence when he recently stated that the parachute payment the the club still receive was being used to pay off the debt. Supporters should not forget that whilst the debt is high this is not helped by enormous pension contributions , salaries and many other benefits that the men in power are able to charge to the business. My grandson recently reminded me that not too many years ago the Wanderers were in the top 4 of the premiership at Christmas and yet amazingly the Chairman who has been responsible for our decline is still in power!! BURNDEN BOY
  • Score: 28

11:31am Wed 27 Aug 14

Djorkaeff's right peg says...

The show must go on, Jenny. I will put my faith in Dougie Freedman again till the end of the season and believe we will have an upturn in form as we've seen many times over the years.

COYWM!
The show must go on, Jenny. I will put my faith in Dougie Freedman again till the end of the season and believe we will have an upturn in form as we've seen many times over the years. COYWM! Djorkaeff's right peg
  • Score: -19

11:41am Wed 27 Aug 14

Big Joseph says...

The purse is empty and will be for the foreseeable future, once everybody realizes this we can move forward. Dougie has made some terrible decisions such as using Wheater as a striker when he had just taken off Craig Davies but the right players have got to come in and will probably have to come from the loan market again.
The clubs finances have been managed poorly by allowing contracts worth circa £30k per week to be paid to championship players.
Keep the faith, we ain't got much choice!
The purse is empty and will be for the foreseeable future, once everybody realizes this we can move forward. Dougie has made some terrible decisions such as using Wheater as a striker when he had just taken off Craig Davies but the right players have got to come in and will probably have to come from the loan market again. The clubs finances have been managed poorly by allowing contracts worth circa £30k per week to be paid to championship players. Keep the faith, we ain't got much choice! Big Joseph
  • Score: 12

12:37pm Wed 27 Aug 14

cliff4treasurer says...

UTD 0 MK dons 4 ha ha ha ha ha ha
UTD 0 MK dons 4 ha ha ha ha ha ha cliff4treasurer
  • Score: 2

12:40pm Wed 27 Aug 14

cliff4treasurer says...

Apparently the UTD managers job was offered to Jurgen Klop who wasn't interested but said his brother Klipperty might be.
Apparently the UTD managers job was offered to Jurgen Klop who wasn't interested but said his brother Klipperty might be. cliff4treasurer
  • Score: 1

12:48pm Wed 27 Aug 14

Reebok Al says...

I think the disappointment of not bringing in Jutkiewicz has affected the players as well as the supporters, they don't see any signs of ambition from the Wanderers' hierarchy. £1.5 million is not a vast amount to pay these days and the Fair Play regulations had nothing to do with it.
It's possible that the manager has been selecting Lee in the hope that he'll attract an offer, it's only in the last couple of games that his performances have picked up. Feeney should have been part of the team from day one.
I have sympathy for Freedman because he came here expecting to work with premiership players, and instead he's found himself having to start from square one. A gradual improvement in the team's fortunes is the best that we can hope for.
I think the disappointment of not bringing in Jutkiewicz has affected the players as well as the supporters, they don't see any signs of ambition from the Wanderers' hierarchy. £1.5 million is not a vast amount to pay these days and the Fair Play regulations had nothing to do with it. It's possible that the manager has been selecting Lee in the hope that he'll attract an offer, it's only in the last couple of games that his performances have picked up. Feeney should have been part of the team from day one. I have sympathy for Freedman because he came here expecting to work with premiership players, and instead he's found himself having to start from square one. A gradual improvement in the team's fortunes is the best that we can hope for. Reebok Al
  • Score: 0

12:54pm Wed 27 Aug 14

aydeepee says...

It is almost irrelevant who he buys because tactics, systems and motivation dont cost anything - and they are the areas where we are failing.
The squad are not that bad - yet the way we play is absolutely shocking, conceding 20+ shots EVERY game this season.
I have never seen us play with so little organisation, desire or creativity in the last 30 years - and that is down to the manager. His over elaborate,over negative, over thought approach to games is making us toothless, easy to play against and about as entertaining as roadworks.
Dougie - the new blodd should be at your level, not the players
It is almost irrelevant who he buys because tactics, systems and motivation dont cost anything - and they are the areas where we are failing. The squad are not that bad - yet the way we play is absolutely shocking, conceding 20+ shots EVERY game this season. I have never seen us play with so little organisation, desire or creativity in the last 30 years - and that is down to the manager. His over elaborate,over negative, over thought approach to games is making us toothless, easy to play against and about as entertaining as roadworks. Dougie - the new blodd should be at your level, not the players aydeepee
  • Score: 28

1:00pm Wed 27 Aug 14

Baz-ref says...

Baz says

All teams have ups and downs, but continued tinkering with which way you play does not help. Settled sides playing the same way each week is considerably better and generally more attractive. In my opinion the Manager will always have the same problems on a continued basis with the way he picks and plays the team. all we hear is that this young player and that young player are good, but never played. Start by playing your younger players continually and you would probably find your results will be better.
Baz says All teams have ups and downs, but continued tinkering with which way you play does not help. Settled sides playing the same way each week is considerably better and generally more attractive. In my opinion the Manager will always have the same problems on a continued basis with the way he picks and plays the team. all we hear is that this young player and that young player are good, but never played. Start by playing your younger players continually and you would probably find your results will be better. Baz-ref
  • Score: 8

1:27pm Wed 27 Aug 14

patiodoors says...

I was at Crewe last night and for all of the first half Beckford was a bystander, who had NO idea what to do with the ball when he got it plus the team switched off when they scored so I have to smile when Dougie says he needs 'new blood' but WHAT does he do with the 'old blood' he already has, as sadly he is stuck with them, and NO amount of new players will solve the problems that are already there.
I was at Crewe last night and for all of the first half Beckford was a bystander, who had NO idea what to do with the ball when he got it plus the team switched off when they scored so I have to smile when Dougie says he needs 'new blood' but WHAT does he do with the 'old blood' he already has, as sadly he is stuck with them, and NO amount of new players will solve the problems that are already there. patiodoors
  • Score: 14

1:31pm Wed 27 Aug 14

aydeepee says...

BURNDEN BOY wrote:
As in most organisations you reap what you sow and unfortunately the directors and benefactor have concentrated more on tangible assets like the purchase of the hotel than the players. I think Gartside insulted everyone`s intelligence when he recently stated that the parachute payment the the club still receive was being used to pay off the debt. Supporters should not forget that whilst the debt is high this is not helped by enormous pension contributions , salaries and many other benefits that the men in power are able to charge to the business.
My grandson recently reminded me that not too many years ago the Wanderers were in the top 4 of the premiership at Christmas and yet amazingly the Chairman who has been responsible for our decline is still in power!!
Any director that has overseen a debt spiral to £160m should not be in the job
Financial ineptitude based on boom or bust decisions, coupled with backing ludicrous transfer fees salaries for below average players under Coyle in particular. Gartside has a great deal to answer for - yet he talks to the fans like they were born yesterday as if he is a competetent expert!
[quote][p][bold]BURNDEN BOY[/bold] wrote: As in most organisations you reap what you sow and unfortunately the directors and benefactor have concentrated more on tangible assets like the purchase of the hotel than the players. I think Gartside insulted everyone`s intelligence when he recently stated that the parachute payment the the club still receive was being used to pay off the debt. Supporters should not forget that whilst the debt is high this is not helped by enormous pension contributions , salaries and many other benefits that the men in power are able to charge to the business. My grandson recently reminded me that not too many years ago the Wanderers were in the top 4 of the premiership at Christmas and yet amazingly the Chairman who has been responsible for our decline is still in power!![/p][/quote]Any director that has overseen a debt spiral to £160m should not be in the job Financial ineptitude based on boom or bust decisions, coupled with backing ludicrous transfer fees salaries for below average players under Coyle in particular. Gartside has a great deal to answer for - yet he talks to the fans like they were born yesterday as if he is a competetent expert! aydeepee
  • Score: 19

1:34pm Wed 27 Aug 14

Ernagy2 says...

mattaiuseire wrote:
Ernagy2 wrote:
I'd suggest it's further back where the problems are Dougie. We need a pacey centre back and a creative centre midfield player who can stamp their authority on the game. Goals don't seem a problem to me
In the four league games, Bolton have had a total of 8 shots on target, 4 goals (50% from strikers and 50% from defenders).

Goals don't seem to be a problem?
/and we have conceded 13 goals in 5 games. If we'd have kept those goals out we win the matches. I don't care where our goals come from.
[quote][p][bold]mattaiuseire[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ernagy2[/bold] wrote: I'd suggest it's further back where the problems are Dougie. We need a pacey centre back and a creative centre midfield player who can stamp their authority on the game. Goals don't seem a problem to me[/p][/quote]In the four league games, Bolton have had a total of 8 shots on target, 4 goals (50% from strikers and 50% from defenders). Goals don't seem to be a problem?[/p][/quote]/and we have conceded 13 goals in 5 games. If we'd have kept those goals out we win the matches. I don't care where our goals come from. Ernagy2
  • Score: 4

1:37pm Wed 27 Aug 14

Ernagy2 says...

Reebok Al wrote:
I think the disappointment of not bringing in Jutkiewicz has affected the players as well as the supporters, they don't see any signs of ambition from the Wanderers' hierarchy. £1.5 million is not a vast amount to pay these days and the Fair Play regulations had nothing to do with it.
It's possible that the manager has been selecting Lee in the hope that he'll attract an offer, it's only in the last couple of games that his performances have picked up. Feeney should have been part of the team from day one.
I have sympathy for Freedman because he came here expecting to work with premiership players, and instead he's found himself having to start from square one. A gradual improvement in the team's fortunes is the best that we can hope for.
Can't afford the £1 million fee for Max Clayton. So £1.5 mill for the Juke out of the question
[quote][p][bold]Reebok Al[/bold] wrote: I think the disappointment of not bringing in Jutkiewicz has affected the players as well as the supporters, they don't see any signs of ambition from the Wanderers' hierarchy. £1.5 million is not a vast amount to pay these days and the Fair Play regulations had nothing to do with it. It's possible that the manager has been selecting Lee in the hope that he'll attract an offer, it's only in the last couple of games that his performances have picked up. Feeney should have been part of the team from day one. I have sympathy for Freedman because he came here expecting to work with premiership players, and instead he's found himself having to start from square one. A gradual improvement in the team's fortunes is the best that we can hope for.[/p][/quote]Can't afford the £1 million fee for Max Clayton. So £1.5 mill for the Juke out of the question Ernagy2
  • Score: 4

1:37pm Wed 27 Aug 14

Ernagy2 says...

Reebok Al wrote:
I think the disappointment of not bringing in Jutkiewicz has affected the players as well as the supporters, they don't see any signs of ambition from the Wanderers' hierarchy. £1.5 million is not a vast amount to pay these days and the Fair Play regulations had nothing to do with it.
It's possible that the manager has been selecting Lee in the hope that he'll attract an offer, it's only in the last couple of games that his performances have picked up. Feeney should have been part of the team from day one.
I have sympathy for Freedman because he came here expecting to work with premiership players, and instead he's found himself having to start from square one. A gradual improvement in the team's fortunes is the best that we can hope for.
Can't afford the £1 million fee for Max Clayton. So £1.5 mill for the Juke out of the question
[quote][p][bold]Reebok Al[/bold] wrote: I think the disappointment of not bringing in Jutkiewicz has affected the players as well as the supporters, they don't see any signs of ambition from the Wanderers' hierarchy. £1.5 million is not a vast amount to pay these days and the Fair Play regulations had nothing to do with it. It's possible that the manager has been selecting Lee in the hope that he'll attract an offer, it's only in the last couple of games that his performances have picked up. Feeney should have been part of the team from day one. I have sympathy for Freedman because he came here expecting to work with premiership players, and instead he's found himself having to start from square one. A gradual improvement in the team's fortunes is the best that we can hope for.[/p][/quote]Can't afford the £1 million fee for Max Clayton. So £1.5 mill for the Juke out of the question Ernagy2
  • Score: 1

1:37pm Wed 27 Aug 14

Kearsley white says...

Why is a fee of £1m too much if they really do rate the young lad from Crewe ? They were willing to pay that for juke weren't they ?, and as someone previously said, a tribunal would probably fix the price at a much lower figure.
The continuous bs about fair play is getting right on my t**ts, for gods sake, we haven't spent a penny yet, so why are we even bringing that into the equation ?
Why is a fee of £1m too much if they really do rate the young lad from Crewe ? They were willing to pay that for juke weren't they ?, and as someone previously said, a tribunal would probably fix the price at a much lower figure. The continuous bs about fair play is getting right on my t**ts, for gods sake, we haven't spent a penny yet, so why are we even bringing that into the equation ? Kearsley white
  • Score: 16

1:42pm Wed 27 Aug 14

Ernagy2 says...

How are you going to get new blood in, when you can't afford Max Clayton at a million, or even the £1 million loan fee for Ibe?
How are you going to get new blood in, when you can't afford Max Clayton at a million, or even the £1 million loan fee for Ibe? Ernagy2
  • Score: 7

1:43pm Wed 27 Aug 14

John Wanderer says...

Any half decent management would have this team moulded into a promotion pushing squad.
Crewe are bottom of a lower league and could / should have won the game
Without getting the players to work as a team we are in for problems.
He's not up to the job !!
Any half decent management would have this team moulded into a promotion pushing squad. Crewe are bottom of a lower league and could / should have won the game Without getting the players to work as a team we are in for problems. He's not up to the job !! John Wanderer
  • Score: 21

3:28pm Wed 27 Aug 14

prestonexile says...

It looks as if the whole squad is demoralised and every team this season has totally outclassed us, including Bury & Crewe. The possession statistics for Championship games are an embarrassment, and I honestly cannot see where the next point, never mind a win, is coming from. Dougie Freedman cannot say it is someone else's fault as it is now a squad pretty much of his own choosing. The time to act is now and not when we are 10 points adrift at the bottom. Sadly he must go or we will be relegated for sure.
It looks as if the whole squad is demoralised and every team this season has totally outclassed us, including Bury & Crewe. The possession statistics for Championship games are an embarrassment, and I honestly cannot see where the next point, never mind a win, is coming from. Dougie Freedman cannot say it is someone else's fault as it is now a squad pretty much of his own choosing. The time to act is now and not when we are 10 points adrift at the bottom. Sadly he must go or we will be relegated for sure. prestonexile
  • Score: 17

3:58pm Wed 27 Aug 14

mike10 says...

Get Dawson back from West Brom-the guy is just languishing on the side lines.
Also David Moyes is still available-just something to note for future reference.
Get Dawson back from West Brom-the guy is just languishing on the side lines. Also David Moyes is still available-just something to note for future reference. mike10
  • Score: 1

4:19pm Wed 27 Aug 14

mike10 says...

This present squad as it stands is capable of taking most sides apart in this division so the questions must be asked what is happening and where do the problems lie.DF is now in his third season at Bolton and yet the side still plays with no imagination and backbone despite a major turnaround in players . Previous comments are correct-how long can this be allowed to go on for? I am all for backing manages and giving them time to put into action their own ideas but I think that time is now running out for the present regime if results continue as they are doing.
This present squad as it stands is capable of taking most sides apart in this division so the questions must be asked what is happening and where do the problems lie.DF is now in his third season at Bolton and yet the side still plays with no imagination and backbone despite a major turnaround in players . Previous comments are correct-how long can this be allowed to go on for? I am all for backing manages and giving them time to put into action their own ideas but I think that time is now running out for the present regime if results continue as they are doing. mike10
  • Score: 12

4:30pm Wed 27 Aug 14

Allmylife says...

Paul Hindley wrote:
Agree with Dougie , time for new blood starting with a new management team.
FREEDMAN OUT
And take Gartside with you. Don't forget to put the lights out. Eddie please sort this mess out!
[quote][p][bold]Paul Hindley[/bold] wrote: Agree with Dougie , time for new blood starting with a new management team. FREEDMAN OUT[/p][/quote]And take Gartside with you. Don't forget to put the lights out. Eddie please sort this mess out! Allmylife
  • Score: 8

4:47pm Wed 27 Aug 14

LOR1910 says...

simsamsuk wrote:
its just depressing, we don't seem to have a penny in the coffers and I am not buying this "fair play" crap most other clubs in this division don't seem that concerned, and where is the voice of our chairman and owner while all this is going on, Gartside grow a pair come out and tell the fans what's really going on!!!
I am a season ticket holder who has followed the club through thick and thin even the old 4th division but much more of the uninspiring dire football being served up at the moment and my ticket will be on its way back
Most other clubs in this league weren't bought out 20-odd years ago, had years in the Prem and over spent stupidly on waste of space no-hopers. Plus, teams like Forest, Watford etc are getting away with murder with 'international TV rights deals' and shocking loans from parent and sister companies/teams. Dougie is balancing books (probably what he was hired to do) and has proven in the past he's a talented young manager. Our play has improved (slightly) YoY and it's still early days in the season. Bit of atmosphere at The Macron wouldn't hurt!
[quote][p][bold]simsamsuk[/bold] wrote: its just depressing, we don't seem to have a penny in the coffers and I am not buying this "fair play" crap most other clubs in this division don't seem that concerned, and where is the voice of our chairman and owner while all this is going on, Gartside grow a pair come out and tell the fans what's really going on!!! I am a season ticket holder who has followed the club through thick and thin even the old 4th division but much more of the uninspiring dire football being served up at the moment and my ticket will be on its way back[/p][/quote]Most other clubs in this league weren't bought out 20-odd years ago, had years in the Prem and over spent stupidly on waste of space no-hopers. Plus, teams like Forest, Watford etc are getting away with murder with 'international TV rights deals' and shocking loans from parent and sister companies/teams. Dougie is balancing books (probably what he was hired to do) and has proven in the past he's a talented young manager. Our play has improved (slightly) YoY and it's still early days in the season. Bit of atmosphere at The Macron wouldn't hurt! LOR1910
  • Score: -8

5:03pm Wed 27 Aug 14

bwfc0210 says...

mike10 wrote:
Get Dawson back from West Brom-the guy is just languishing on the side lines. Also David Moyes is still available-just something to note for future reference.
Dawson played both prem games so far and Carling cup last night (without being subbed), hardly languishing.
[quote][p][bold]mike10[/bold] wrote: Get Dawson back from West Brom-the guy is just languishing on the side lines. Also David Moyes is still available-just something to note for future reference.[/p][/quote]Dawson played both prem games so far and Carling cup last night (without being subbed), hardly languishing. bwfc0210
  • Score: 1

6:49pm Wed 27 Aug 14

genesis22 says...

Gartside is pure scum, a lying greedy dictator. E Davies is anything but a benefactor, he has stripped the club of all its assets, using them as collateral to build a mountain of debt, on which he has taken many millions in interest payments, the clubs business plan is in tatters, a squalid ridiculous concoction lambasted by every financial expert in the field. After hiding the truth for years under a blanket of secrecy via his offshore trust, the club has been turned into a far more secretive private limited company. As for the team, a continuous procession of useless players and even more useless managers has guaranteed our demise out on the pitch. Having squandered in excess of £700 million over an 11 year period the club is now bankrupt both on and off the pitch, the only possible salvation would be the introduction of a dynamic manager who could extract every ounce of potential from the players at his disposal, improving the team en mass. To reach that stage we have to get rid of the current useless incumbents and that might require removing Gartside , I am not hopeful either necessity will take place, hence I see no change, no hope and a very bleak future ahead
Gartside is pure scum, a lying greedy dictator. E Davies is anything but a benefactor, he has stripped the club of all its assets, using them as collateral to build a mountain of debt, on which he has taken many millions in interest payments, the clubs business plan is in tatters, a squalid ridiculous concoction lambasted by every financial expert in the field. After hiding the truth for years under a blanket of secrecy via his offshore trust, the club has been turned into a far more secretive private limited company. As for the team, a continuous procession of useless players and even more useless managers has guaranteed our demise out on the pitch. Having squandered in excess of £700 million over an 11 year period the club is now bankrupt both on and off the pitch, the only possible salvation would be the introduction of a dynamic manager who could extract every ounce of potential from the players at his disposal, improving the team en mass. To reach that stage we have to get rid of the current useless incumbents and that might require removing Gartside , I am not hopeful either necessity will take place, hence I see no change, no hope and a very bleak future ahead genesis22
  • Score: 15

8:45pm Wed 27 Aug 14

Riggermortis says...

Oh dear what a mess, now we want to sell what little talent we have left and bring in more freebies. It was never this bad in Phil Neal's days at least we had average players who played with some passion for the club, remember Dave Sutton in the crowd at Wrexham. These lot just climb in their lambourginies and head back to cheshire. Players like eagles and knight don't even bother playing after taking all our cash as for gartside I really don't think he gives a sh1t.
Oh dear what a mess, now we want to sell what little talent we have left and bring in more freebies. It was never this bad in Phil Neal's days at least we had average players who played with some passion for the club, remember Dave Sutton in the crowd at Wrexham. These lot just climb in their lambourginies and head back to cheshire. Players like eagles and knight don't even bother playing after taking all our cash as for gartside I really don't think he gives a sh1t. Riggermortis
  • Score: 12

9:16pm Wed 27 Aug 14

Eldrick says...

Dooogie has a job to do, that is to get together a team to compete in the championship. He now (4 games into the season) says he needs new blood, surely this is an admission of failure. He is saying that the team he has amassed is lacking in certain departments and needs players going out before they can be brought in. Should a good manager not be able to motivate and organise these players.
From what I see he has no idea what his best team is, he fancies himself as some kind of tinkerman changing the strikers game by game like big time champions league manager. Pick your best strikers and give them a decent run.
He has got to go, but I fear he would be replaced by yet another muppet dragging the club back to where it was in the mid eighties.
Dooogie has a job to do, that is to get together a team to compete in the championship. He now (4 games into the season) says he needs new blood, surely this is an admission of failure. He is saying that the team he has amassed is lacking in certain departments and needs players going out before they can be brought in. Should a good manager not be able to motivate and organise these players. From what I see he has no idea what his best team is, he fancies himself as some kind of tinkerman changing the strikers game by game like big time champions league manager. Pick your best strikers and give them a decent run. He has got to go, but I fear he would be replaced by yet another muppet dragging the club back to where it was in the mid eighties. Eldrick
  • Score: 9

10:00pm Wed 27 Aug 14

Asg6263 says...

Doomed to life at the bottom poor manager selected by a poor chairman selected by a poor owner who's very clever at taking money out of the club in interest payments he would never make this money in interest any were else
Doomed to life at the bottom poor manager selected by a poor chairman selected by a poor owner who's very clever at taking money out of the club in interest payments he would never make this money in interest any were else Asg6263
  • Score: 11

10:14pm Wed 27 Aug 14

Riggermortis says...

Chelsea away now the country will see us a laughing stock, 20% possession if were lucky.
Chelsea away now the country will see us a laughing stock, 20% possession if were lucky. Riggermortis
  • Score: 4

11:54pm Wed 27 Aug 14

Cardiffwhite says...

Sell Bogdan, CY Lee, Spearing or Davies, replace them with more of Freedman's journeymen and we really will be in a pickle.

How did it come to this - BN why do you give the club such a free ride? Ask some searching questions & demand some proper answers for once.

Everyday the critical comments on here are growing, the dissatisfaction rising and all you do is print the utter garbage that Freedman spouts without challenge. Something is seriously wrong at our club and those at the top of the tree should be held to account.
Sell Bogdan, CY Lee, Spearing or Davies, replace them with more of Freedman's journeymen and we really will be in a pickle. How did it come to this - BN why do you give the club such a free ride? Ask some searching questions & demand some proper answers for once. Everyday the critical comments on here are growing, the dissatisfaction rising and all you do is print the utter garbage that Freedman spouts without challenge. Something is seriously wrong at our club and those at the top of the tree should be held to account. Cardiffwhite
  • Score: 14

12:02pm Thu 28 Aug 14

Wanderers56 says...

simsamsuk wrote:
its just depressing, we don't seem to have a penny in the coffers and I am not buying thisdirect debit makes this option easier and easier, many more dreary displays like Middlesbrough, and the cancellation button might be in action !!!!
[quote][p][bold]simsamsuk[/bold] wrote: its just depressing, we don't seem to have a penny in the coffers and I am not buying thisdirect debit makes this option easier and easier, many more dreary displays like Middlesbrough, and the cancellation button might be in action !!!! Wanderers56
  • Score: 1

2:38pm Thu 28 Aug 14

Liamdog says...

Cardiffwhite wrote:
Sell Bogdan, CY Lee, Spearing or Davies, replace them with more of Freedman's journeymen and we really will be in a pickle.

How did it come to this - BN why do you give the club such a free ride? Ask some searching questions & demand some proper answers for once.

Everyday the critical comments on here are growing, the dissatisfaction rising and all you do is print the utter garbage that Freedman spouts without challenge. Something is seriously wrong at our club and those at the top of the tree should be held to account.
Couldn't agree more, the spouts utter nonesense and is never challenged. BN stop sucking up to the people who are killing our club . No wonder you are losing so many readers.
[quote][p][bold]Cardiffwhite[/bold] wrote: Sell Bogdan, CY Lee, Spearing or Davies, replace them with more of Freedman's journeymen and we really will be in a pickle. How did it come to this - BN why do you give the club such a free ride? Ask some searching questions & demand some proper answers for once. Everyday the critical comments on here are growing, the dissatisfaction rising and all you do is print the utter garbage that Freedman spouts without challenge. Something is seriously wrong at our club and those at the top of the tree should be held to account.[/p][/quote]Couldn't agree more, the spouts utter nonesense and is never challenged. BN stop sucking up to the people who are killing our club . No wonder you are losing so many readers. Liamdog
  • Score: 8

2:42pm Thu 28 Aug 14

Liamdog says...

LOR1910 wrote:
simsamsuk wrote:
its just depressing, we don't seem to have a penny in the coffers and I am not buying this "fair play" crap most other clubs in this division don't seem that concerned, and where is the voice of our chairman and owner while all this is going on, Gartside grow a pair come out and tell the fans what's really going on!!!
I am a season ticket holder who has followed the club through thick and thin even the old 4th division but much more of the uninspiring dire football being served up at the moment and my ticket will be on its way back
Most other clubs in this league weren't bought out 20-odd years ago, had years in the Prem and over spent stupidly on waste of space no-hopers. Plus, teams like Forest, Watford etc are getting away with murder with 'international TV rights deals' and shocking loans from parent and sister companies/teams. Dougie is balancing books (probably what he was hired to do) and has proven in the past he's a talented young manager. Our play has improved (slightly) YoY and it's still early days in the season. Bit of atmosphere at The Macron wouldn't hurt!
What planet are you on. When were and how has DF proved he is a talented manager. He got lucky at Palace with an overpriced winger and????
[quote][p][bold]LOR1910[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]simsamsuk[/bold] wrote: its just depressing, we don't seem to have a penny in the coffers and I am not buying this "fair play" crap most other clubs in this division don't seem that concerned, and where is the voice of our chairman and owner while all this is going on, Gartside grow a pair come out and tell the fans what's really going on!!! I am a season ticket holder who has followed the club through thick and thin even the old 4th division but much more of the uninspiring dire football being served up at the moment and my ticket will be on its way back[/p][/quote]Most other clubs in this league weren't bought out 20-odd years ago, had years in the Prem and over spent stupidly on waste of space no-hopers. Plus, teams like Forest, Watford etc are getting away with murder with 'international TV rights deals' and shocking loans from parent and sister companies/teams. Dougie is balancing books (probably what he was hired to do) and has proven in the past he's a talented young manager. Our play has improved (slightly) YoY and it's still early days in the season. Bit of atmosphere at The Macron wouldn't hurt![/p][/quote]What planet are you on. When were and how has DF proved he is a talented manager. He got lucky at Palace with an overpriced winger and???? Liamdog
  • Score: 4

2:42pm Thu 28 Aug 14

Liamdog says...

LOR1910 wrote:
simsamsuk wrote:
its just depressing, we don't seem to have a penny in the coffers and I am not buying this "fair play" crap most other clubs in this division don't seem that concerned, and where is the voice of our chairman and owner while all this is going on, Gartside grow a pair come out and tell the fans what's really going on!!!
I am a season ticket holder who has followed the club through thick and thin even the old 4th division but much more of the uninspiring dire football being served up at the moment and my ticket will be on its way back
Most other clubs in this league weren't bought out 20-odd years ago, had years in the Prem and over spent stupidly on waste of space no-hopers. Plus, teams like Forest, Watford etc are getting away with murder with 'international TV rights deals' and shocking loans from parent and sister companies/teams. Dougie is balancing books (probably what he was hired to do) and has proven in the past he's a talented young manager. Our play has improved (slightly) YoY and it's still early days in the season. Bit of atmosphere at The Macron wouldn't hurt!
What planet are you on. When were and how has DF proved he is a talented manager. He got lucky at Palace with an overpriced winger and????
[quote][p][bold]LOR1910[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]simsamsuk[/bold] wrote: its just depressing, we don't seem to have a penny in the coffers and I am not buying this "fair play" crap most other clubs in this division don't seem that concerned, and where is the voice of our chairman and owner while all this is going on, Gartside grow a pair come out and tell the fans what's really going on!!! I am a season ticket holder who has followed the club through thick and thin even the old 4th division but much more of the uninspiring dire football being served up at the moment and my ticket will be on its way back[/p][/quote]Most other clubs in this league weren't bought out 20-odd years ago, had years in the Prem and over spent stupidly on waste of space no-hopers. Plus, teams like Forest, Watford etc are getting away with murder with 'international TV rights deals' and shocking loans from parent and sister companies/teams. Dougie is balancing books (probably what he was hired to do) and has proven in the past he's a talented young manager. Our play has improved (slightly) YoY and it's still early days in the season. Bit of atmosphere at The Macron wouldn't hurt![/p][/quote]What planet are you on. When were and how has DF proved he is a talented manager. He got lucky at Palace with an overpriced winger and???? Liamdog
  • Score: 4

9:52pm Thu 28 Aug 14

Lowtonandy says...

Djorkaeff's right peg wrote:
The show must go on, Jenny. I will put my faith in Dougie Freedman again till the end of the season and believe we will have an upturn in form as we've seen many times over the years.

COYWM!
I'll have a pint of what you've had, you're clearly p****d!!
[quote][p][bold]Djorkaeff's right peg[/bold] wrote: The show must go on, Jenny. I will put my faith in Dougie Freedman again till the end of the season and believe we will have an upturn in form as we've seen many times over the years. COYWM![/p][/quote]I'll have a pint of what you've had, you're clearly p****d!! Lowtonandy
  • Score: 5

10:19pm Thu 28 Aug 14

Lowtonandy says...

Forget all the excuses from DF, his drivel just goes on and on........basically what it amounts to he is finally realising the job/club is too big for him, he isn't the genius he thinks he is and he has nowhere left to hide. Our squad is seriously under-performing and I'm convinced with the right man in charge we can have a real crack at this Championship.....wha
t's needed is a strong leader - from the Big Sam, Bruce Rioch, Ian Greaves mold - tactically astute with proven man management ability who instantly commands respect from everywhere/everyone because he's been there and done it before. PG/ED - make the changes and do everything in your power to bring Tony Pulis to the club while there's still a chance. He's the perfect fit for us and definitely the man to bring back passion, pride and success. COYW !
Forget all the excuses from DF, his drivel just goes on and on........basically what it amounts to he is finally realising the job/club is too big for him, he isn't the genius he thinks he is and he has nowhere left to hide. Our squad is seriously under-performing and I'm convinced with the right man in charge we can have a real crack at this Championship.....wha t's needed is a strong leader - from the Big Sam, Bruce Rioch, Ian Greaves mold - tactically astute with proven man management ability who instantly commands respect from everywhere/everyone because he's been there and done it before. PG/ED - make the changes and do everything in your power to bring Tony Pulis to the club while there's still a chance. He's the perfect fit for us and definitely the man to bring back passion, pride and success. COYW ! Lowtonandy
  • Score: 4

11:14am Fri 29 Aug 14

mike10 says...

Ever since BIg Sam left all we seem to do is sell the best players e.g Anelka,Cahill,Nolan to name a few and replace them with players who are either not up to the job or for whatever reason just don't perform.
As we are harking back to the seventies and Ian Greaves perhaps it's time to do the same with players and give youth a chance-at least we will get 110% effort and they will want to play for the club.There still enough of us who can remember a youthful Paul Jones,Sam Allardyce,Mike Walsh,Gary Jones combined with the experience of Ian Greaves,Peter Thompson and John Byrom
Oh and a manager who has the experience to combine such a team!
Ever since BIg Sam left all we seem to do is sell the best players e.g Anelka,Cahill,Nolan to name a few and replace them with players who are either not up to the job or for whatever reason just don't perform. As we are harking back to the seventies and Ian Greaves perhaps it's time to do the same with players and give youth a chance-at least we will get 110% effort and they will want to play for the club.There still enough of us who can remember a youthful Paul Jones,Sam Allardyce,Mike Walsh,Gary Jones combined with the experience of Ian Greaves,Peter Thompson and John Byrom Oh and a manager who has the experience to combine such a team! mike10
  • Score: 0

11:48am Fri 29 Aug 14

pendletrotter says...

Does anyone know just how much actual cash Eddie Davies has put in and how much is accumulated interest. The way things are going we could have best stadium in the Conference
Does anyone know just how much actual cash Eddie Davies has put in and how much is accumulated interest. The way things are going we could have best stadium in the Conference pendletrotter
  • Score: 0
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