'Councillor who failed to pay tax on time should reveal themself,' says Labour source

A Labour councillor who failed to pay his council tax on time has been urged to reveal himself by a senior Labour source

Cllr Mudasir Dean, who has admitted not paying his council tax on time

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THE Labour councillor at the centre of the late-payment of council tax scandal should come forward for the good of their colleagues, a long-serving public servant has said.

On Friday, The Bolton News revealed Conservative councillor, Mudasir Dean, the other politician to be summonsed to court, after he also failed to pay his council tax on time, had been suspended by his party.

Tory chiefs have now also launched an investigation into Cllr Dean’s actions amid allegations he lied about attending a Bolton Council budget meeting.

The Bradshaw councillor admitted earlier this week that he was one of the two who had not paid as he suffered financial problems as he lost his job in March 2011.

Both councillors have now paid in full.

But the spotlight is now on Labour, with the party’s councillors outraged at having the finger pointed at them and their integrity questioned.

A Labour source has approached The Bolton News in the hope that the person involved will come forward and put a stop to speculation over who was involved.

They said: “I think it is unfair that this councillor has not come forward and is instead allowing the spotlight of blame to be cast on colleagues who do not deserve it.

“I would strongly urge the individual to come forward and admit it.

“You have 38 Labour councillors who are not involved in this and, despite being hard-working public servants who got into politics to help people, they are being tarred with an unpleasant brush.

“One person has the ability to put a stop to it. For the good of their colleagues, they should come forward.”

A Bolton News investigation revealed two councillors were twice ordered to go to court after failing to pay a total of £4,660 on time.

Over 21 months we asked three authorities for permission to name the pair, but they refused and one, the First Tier Tribunal, said it would infringe their human rights.

Our investigation revealed the Labour councillor was summoned to court at some point between May 2011 and April 2012 for not paying £936 in council tax.

The summons was withdrawn after they paid the bill in full.

The councillor was then summoned to court again at some point between May 2012 and April 2013 for not paying £1,039.89 in council tax.

The summons was withdrawn after they entered into a payment plan with Bolton Council.

By October 2013, they had paid off £600 of that debt.

Legally, the councillor would have not been able to vote on the council’s budget in either of those two years.

The issue could come to a head when Labour holds a group meeting in the next fortnight.

Bolton Council and Labour leader, Cllr Cliff Morris, said he did not want to add to his comments made on the matter earlier in the week when he said: “I do not know who the councillor is.

“We will be discussing the matter at the group meeting and, if the person involved is there, it is up to them to decide what the best course of action is.”

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9:00am Sun 17 Aug 14

goldie47 says...

if joe public failed to pay they would be named and shamed irrespective of human rights....councillor
s are NO different
if joe public failed to pay they would be named and shamed irrespective of human rights....councillor s are NO different goldie47
  • Score: 28

9:07am Sun 17 Aug 14

collthorn says...

It shows little or no integrity to allow fellow members to suspected of this act. The labour Councillor should admit it's them and then it can be investigated further regarding meetings they should or should not have attended and voted in
It shows little or no integrity to allow fellow members to suspected of this act. The labour Councillor should admit it's them and then it can be investigated further regarding meetings they should or should not have attended and voted in collthorn
  • Score: 28

9:13am Sun 17 Aug 14

Endoxa says...

Totally predictable - councillors worried about THEMSELVES, not just wanting to do the right thing!
Totally predictable - councillors worried about THEMSELVES, not just wanting to do the right thing! Endoxa
  • Score: 25

9:33am Sun 17 Aug 14

Citizen Cane says...

Easy way to do this : FoI request on Labour councillors not attending or voting at the annual budget meetings in the last two years. The publication of those facts can not breach the injunction served on the BN.
Easy way to do this : FoI request on Labour councillors not attending or voting at the annual budget meetings in the last two years. The publication of those facts can not breach the injunction served on the BN. Citizen Cane
  • Score: 13

10:21am Sun 17 Aug 14

owencoyle99 says...

From the BNE headlines now we know it is a male not female
From the BNE headlines now we know it is a male not female owencoyle99
  • Score: -3

10:24am Sun 17 Aug 14

collthorn says...

owencoyle99 wrote:
From the BNE headlines now we know it is a male not female
How do you know this for sure?
[quote][p][bold]owencoyle99[/bold] wrote: From the BNE headlines now we know it is a male not female[/p][/quote]How do you know this for sure? collthorn
  • Score: 4

10:43am Sun 17 Aug 14

collthorn says...

Citizen Cane wrote:
Easy way to do this : FoI request on Labour councillors not attending or voting at the annual budget meetings in the last two years. The publication of those facts can not breach the injunction served on the BN.
It's been done already
[quote][p][bold]Citizen Cane[/bold] wrote: Easy way to do this : FoI request on Labour councillors not attending or voting at the annual budget meetings in the last two years. The publication of those facts can not breach the injunction served on the BN.[/p][/quote]It's been done already collthorn
  • Score: 7

11:04am Sun 17 Aug 14

thomas222 says...

Oh what a tangled web we weave, When first we practice to deceive!
Oh what a tangled web we weave, When first we practice to deceive! thomas222
  • Score: 9

11:45am Sun 17 Aug 14

albertmodley says...

How can it be right for a councillor to hide behind human rights, whilst Cliff Richard is named and shamed by the left wing BBC over allegations that are unproven and he has not even been interviewed, never mind charged.?
How can it be right for a councillor to hide behind human rights, whilst Cliff Richard is named and shamed by the left wing BBC over allegations that are unproven and he has not even been interviewed, never mind charged.? albertmodley
  • Score: 22

12:12pm Sun 17 Aug 14

Donkey Stone says...

collthorn wrote:
Citizen Cane wrote:
Easy way to do this : FoI request on Labour councillors not attending or voting at the annual budget meetings in the last two years. The publication of those facts can not breach the injunction served on the BN.
It's been done already
Hi Collthorn. Are your suspicions the same as mine?
[quote][p][bold]collthorn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Citizen Cane[/bold] wrote: Easy way to do this : FoI request on Labour councillors not attending or voting at the annual budget meetings in the last two years. The publication of those facts can not breach the injunction served on the BN.[/p][/quote]It's been done already[/p][/quote]Hi Collthorn. Are your suspicions the same as mine? Donkey Stone
  • Score: 4

12:13pm Sun 17 Aug 14

Donkey Stone says...

goldie47 wrote:
if joe public failed to pay they would be named and shamed irrespective of human rights....councillor

s are NO different
Yes they are. They have no shame.
[quote][p][bold]goldie47[/bold] wrote: if joe public failed to pay they would be named and shamed irrespective of human rights....councillor s are NO different[/p][/quote]Yes they are. They have no shame. Donkey Stone
  • Score: 7

12:13pm Sun 17 Aug 14

johnnykilroy4 says...

People who work for local council / Government always get special treatment its been like this for many years. There's a law for one and a law for another.
People who work for local council / Government always get special treatment its been like this for many years. There's a law for one and a law for another. johnnykilroy4
  • Score: 3

12:36pm Sun 17 Aug 14

mrs philainsy says...

Come on Non Paying 2nd Counceller reveal yourself - I'm all for a Good Reveal.
Come on Non Paying 2nd Counceller reveal yourself - I'm all for a Good Reveal. mrs philainsy
  • Score: 15

12:40pm Sun 17 Aug 14

denraw says...

How on earth can the leader of Bolton Council state that he has no knowledge of the name of the Labour councillor who for two financial years running failed to pay his Council Tax. I wonder what would happen to me if ,say, at the end of August I decided not to pay my monthly council tax? Does any one know how long I could get away with this without a letter from the Treasurer's Department dropping through my letter box? Perhaps we could all give it a try???
How on earth can the leader of Bolton Council state that he has no knowledge of the name of the Labour councillor who for two financial years running failed to pay his Council Tax. I wonder what would happen to me if ,say, at the end of August I decided not to pay my monthly council tax? Does any one know how long I could get away with this without a letter from the Treasurer's Department dropping through my letter box? Perhaps we could all give it a try??? denraw
  • Score: 14

12:40pm Sun 17 Aug 14

Donkey Stone says...

Just de-select the councillor at the next election. Then we will all know. If the other Labour coucillors feel so strongly then resign en masse. Once again this will point the finger.
Just de-select the councillor at the next election. Then we will all know. If the other Labour coucillors feel so strongly then resign en masse. Once again this will point the finger. Donkey Stone
  • Score: 7

1:20pm Sun 17 Aug 14

JustBecause says...

Morris is a joke, call himself a leader? He should be held just as accountable, as head of the party that has a bent councillor in it.

Morris could find out in 10min via the phone, but he's decided to play the dumb card, which is fitting.

Bolton should be run by a consortium of business leaders, with qualifications to do the job, not elected individuals with no morals or actual qualifications to do the job.
Morris is a joke, call himself a leader? He should be held just as accountable, as head of the party that has a bent councillor in it. Morris could find out in 10min via the phone, but he's decided to play the dumb card, which is fitting. Bolton should be run by a consortium of business leaders, with qualifications to do the job, not elected individuals with no morals or actual qualifications to do the job. JustBecause
  • Score: 11

1:54pm Sun 17 Aug 14

Peaceful Majority says...

Come on councillor, show us that you are of accepted standards of respectability and moral behaviour. Own up, and take responsibility.
Come on councillor, show us that you are of accepted standards of respectability and moral behaviour. Own up, and take responsibility. Peaceful Majority
  • Score: 13

2:31pm Sun 17 Aug 14

Dale Haslam says...

Citizen Cane wrote:
Easy way to do this : FoI request on Labour councillors not attending or voting at the annual budget meetings in the last two years. The publication of those facts can not breach the injunction served on the BN.
I am afraid it is not that simple.

While Bolton Council publishes meeting minutes on its website - so anyone can see who attended - the council does not routinely record if, or how, people voted.

And, of course, we should not assume that, just because a person attended the meeting, they are not the individual in question.

The current situation is that we do not know who the person is, so everything is speculation.
[quote][p][bold]Citizen Cane[/bold] wrote: Easy way to do this : FoI request on Labour councillors not attending or voting at the annual budget meetings in the last two years. The publication of those facts can not breach the injunction served on the BN.[/p][/quote]I am afraid it is not that simple. While Bolton Council publishes meeting minutes on its website - so anyone can see who attended - the council does not routinely record if, or how, people voted. And, of course, we should not assume that, just because a person attended the meeting, they are not the individual in question. The current situation is that we do not know who the person is, so everything is speculation. Dale Haslam
  • Score: 6

2:58pm Sun 17 Aug 14

thedom.com says...

Morris only interested in money
Morris only interested in money thedom.com
  • Score: 7

3:12pm Sun 17 Aug 14

Dori da says...

Donkey Stone wrote:
collthorn wrote:
Citizen Cane wrote:
Easy way to do this : FoI request on Labour councillors not attending or voting at the annual budget meetings in the last two years. The publication of those facts can not breach the injunction served on the BN.
It's been done already
Hi Collthorn. Are your suspicions the same as mine?
I guess so, but I think the truth will have to come out, whichever
[quote][p][bold]Donkey Stone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]collthorn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Citizen Cane[/bold] wrote: Easy way to do this : FoI request on Labour councillors not attending or voting at the annual budget meetings in the last two years. The publication of those facts can not breach the injunction served on the BN.[/p][/quote]It's been done already[/p][/quote]Hi Collthorn. Are your suspicions the same as mine?[/p][/quote]I guess so, but I think the truth will have to come out, whichever Dori da
  • Score: 0

3:12pm Sun 17 Aug 14

Dori da says...

Donkey Stone wrote:
collthorn wrote:
Citizen Cane wrote:
Easy way to do this : FoI request on Labour councillors not attending or voting at the annual budget meetings in the last two years. The publication of those facts can not breach the injunction served on the BN.
It's been done already
Hi Collthorn. Are your suspicions the same as mine?
I guess so, but I think the truth will have to come out, whichever
[quote][p][bold]Donkey Stone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]collthorn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Citizen Cane[/bold] wrote: Easy way to do this : FoI request on Labour councillors not attending or voting at the annual budget meetings in the last two years. The publication of those facts can not breach the injunction served on the BN.[/p][/quote]It's been done already[/p][/quote]Hi Collthorn. Are your suspicions the same as mine?[/p][/quote]I guess so, but I think the truth will have to come out, whichever Dori da
  • Score: 1

4:18pm Sun 17 Aug 14

bwfc0210 says...

johnnykilroy4 wrote:
People who work for local council / Government always get special treatment its been like this for many years. There's a law for one and a law for another.
Rubbish.......not every one, talk about tarring everyone with the same brush.
[quote][p][bold]johnnykilroy4[/bold] wrote: People who work for local council / Government always get special treatment its been like this for many years. There's a law for one and a law for another.[/p][/quote]Rubbish.......not every one, talk about tarring everyone with the same brush. bwfc0210
  • Score: 0

4:22pm Sun 17 Aug 14

Dori da says...

Isn't that all the more reason for him/her/them self, (when the bolton news makes up it's mind) to admit that they are the other Councillor.
?
Isn't that all the more reason for him/her/them self, (when the bolton news makes up it's mind) to admit that they are the other Councillor. ? Dori da
  • Score: 3

4:26pm Sun 17 Aug 14

Dori da says...

As someone else pointed out, we all have our suspicions of individuals who are adverse to paying their way, but until we know, and I believe we will know soon enough, every Labour Councillor is under the magnifying glass, as it should be.
As someone else pointed out, we all have our suspicions of individuals who are adverse to paying their way, but until we know, and I believe we will know soon enough, every Labour Councillor is under the magnifying glass, as it should be. Dori da
  • Score: 8

4:44pm Sun 17 Aug 14

artistpaint says...

There expenses should be declared 2.on a regular basis and there salarys also.they get paid very well.
There expenses should be declared 2.on a regular basis and there salarys also.they get paid very well. artistpaint
  • Score: 7

6:13pm Sun 17 Aug 14

Dori da says...

If an individual is capable of putting their own interests first, and not worried in the least about the reputation of their colleagues, then that person is not likely to be a popular individual, probably even conceited enough to have boasted about it, it won't be long before someone who is an acquaintance of the culprit will accidentally cough cough, let the rat out of the bag
If an individual is capable of putting their own interests first, and not worried in the least about the reputation of their colleagues, then that person is not likely to be a popular individual, probably even conceited enough to have boasted about it, it won't be long before someone who is an acquaintance of the culprit will accidentally cough cough, let the rat out of the bag Dori da
  • Score: 5

6:22pm Sun 17 Aug 14

CarlXVIGustaf says...

Cllr Cliff Morris doesn't know who it was? Cobblers!
Cllr Cliff Morris doesn't know who it was? Cobblers! CarlXVIGustaf
  • Score: 10

6:30pm Sun 17 Aug 14

Dori da says...

CarlXVIGustaf wrote:
Cllr Cliff Morris doesn't know who it was? Cobblers!
Councillor Cliff Morris in my opinion doesn't know half of what his councillors do, and I think he thinks ignorance is bliss, not for everyone else though, people are being taken advantage of by councillors and the powers they misuse. Councillor Morris chooses not to see, it's not his concern if he doesn't know, bless.
[quote][p][bold]CarlXVIGustaf[/bold] wrote: Cllr Cliff Morris doesn't know who it was? Cobblers![/p][/quote]Councillor Cliff Morris in my opinion doesn't know half of what his councillors do, and I think he thinks ignorance is bliss, not for everyone else though, people are being taken advantage of by councillors and the powers they misuse. Councillor Morris chooses not to see, it's not his concern if he doesn't know, bless. Dori da
  • Score: 3

10:19pm Sun 17 Aug 14

albertmodley says...

CarlXVIGustaf wrote:
Cllr Cliff Morris doesn't know who it was? Cobblers!
He is a typical working class pig, who took over the co-operative(Mr blair's view)
[quote][p][bold]CarlXVIGustaf[/bold] wrote: Cllr Cliff Morris doesn't know who it was? Cobblers![/p][/quote]He is a typical working class pig, who took over the co-operative(Mr blair's view) albertmodley
  • Score: -1

1:09am Mon 18 Aug 14

Reality50 says...

Can the Labour Party sink any lower in Bolton? The contempt in which they treat the local electorate is appalling.
Can the Labour Party sink any lower in Bolton? The contempt in which they treat the local electorate is appalling. Reality50
  • Score: 6

2:32am Mon 18 Aug 14

johnnykilroy4 says...

bwfc0210 wrote:
johnnykilroy4 wrote:
People who work for local council / Government always get special treatment its been like this for many years. There's a law for one and a law for another.
Rubbish.......not every one, talk about tarring everyone with the same brush.
Its true and you know it! So your telling me that everyone who works for councils and Government are not treated differently. **** !!!!
[quote][p][bold]bwfc0210[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]johnnykilroy4[/bold] wrote: People who work for local council / Government always get special treatment its been like this for many years. There's a law for one and a law for another.[/p][/quote]Rubbish.......not every one, talk about tarring everyone with the same brush.[/p][/quote]Its true and you know it! So your telling me that everyone who works for councils and Government are not treated differently. **** !!!! johnnykilroy4
  • Score: -1

2:35am Mon 18 Aug 14

johnnykilroy4 says...

johnnykilroy4 wrote:
bwfc0210 wrote:
johnnykilroy4 wrote:
People who work for local council / Government always get special treatment its been like this for many years. There's a law for one and a law for another.
Rubbish.......not every one, talk about tarring everyone with the same brush.
Its true and you know it! So your telling me that everyone who works for councils and Government are not treated differently. **** !!!!
Bulls**t !!!!
[quote][p][bold]johnnykilroy4[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bwfc0210[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]johnnykilroy4[/bold] wrote: People who work for local council / Government always get special treatment its been like this for many years. There's a law for one and a law for another.[/p][/quote]Rubbish.......not every one, talk about tarring everyone with the same brush.[/p][/quote]Its true and you know it! So your telling me that everyone who works for councils and Government are not treated differently. **** !!!![/p][/quote]Bulls**t !!!! johnnykilroy4
  • Score: 1

8:47am Mon 18 Aug 14

breightmet kid says...

Of course this Labour councillor must reveal him/herself because eventually he/she will be 'outed' this causing more embarrassment.

These people are not above the law, its the same law for all of us.
Of course this Labour councillor must reveal him/herself because eventually he/she will be 'outed' this causing more embarrassment. These people are not above the law, its the same law for all of us. breightmet kid
  • Score: 2

10:32am Mon 18 Aug 14

Dori da says...

breightmet kid wrote:
Of course this Labour councillor must reveal him/herself because eventually he/she will be 'outed' this causing more embarrassment.

These people are not above the law, its the same law for all of us.
I think maybe they think they are above the law. I have knowledge of a case recently when a Labour ward Councillor was taken to the small claims court on a personal matter and she recruited their London based Labour Parties local government solicitor to represent her. The person making the claim against the Ward Councillor was told that the Councillors pay into an insurance scheme, but the claimant could only find the solicitor representing Councillors when they were accused of not adhering to the code of conduct. Never on private matters, how much would that have cost us?
[quote][p][bold]breightmet kid[/bold] wrote: Of course this Labour councillor must reveal him/herself because eventually he/she will be 'outed' this causing more embarrassment. These people are not above the law, its the same law for all of us.[/p][/quote]I think maybe they think they are above the law. I have knowledge of a case recently when a Labour ward Councillor was taken to the small claims court on a personal matter and she recruited their London based Labour Parties local government solicitor to represent her. The person making the claim against the Ward Councillor was told that the Councillors pay into an insurance scheme, but the claimant could only find the solicitor representing Councillors when they were accused of not adhering to the code of conduct. Never on private matters, how much would that have cost us? Dori da
  • Score: 1

12:03pm Mon 18 Aug 14

waynagain says...

I wonder how much the tax dodging councilor has spent in legal expenses in keeping their name out of the press.
I wonder how much the tax dodging councilor has spent in legal expenses in keeping their name out of the press. waynagain
  • Score: 3

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